SHOUT OUT THE CHINESE || HCPOD
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- čas přidán 14. 06. 2024
- Chucks & Poet are joined DJ Slick as they dissect loads of topics from the 'Malachi from South' Girl's interview, Future & Drake and the statement made by an education consultant that, 'Black African children are performing better in schools than Black Caribbean children' !!
00:00 - The Check In - Dubai Sun
08:21 - Drake & Future & PND, Poet & Slicks View
22:20 - R.I.P. Jevon
27:30 - Malachi DID WHAT !!!
36:30 - African & Caribbean Children In School
47:50 - Reminiscing about KO
1:05:16 - Ben Whittaker
1:12:45 - Poets Howlers
Akala would be the best, most qualified person to have on HC to talk about this
Akala is very biased and one sided. Intelligent guy but not educated on the Arab slave trade of Africans and at all
The conversation about academic achievements of kids of Caribbean and African decent is not Stupid at all. Nor is it weird to anyone who is interested about learning about the black experience. Poet let his emotions cloud his judgement on this. Please for the Love of God get Akala on to discuss because he has done so on several occasions to educate those within and outside our culture on why African kids do so well. Maybe there is something to learn for us all on this.
He misunderstood his point in regards to distinguishing between Africans and Caribbean
Poet waffles on things he knows nothing about
Poet was almost there regarding the Caribbean vs African conversation but he allowed emotion to get in the way and he’s probably not educated enough on the history/stats. People always forget to mention the fact that when our Caribbean grandparents arrived racism was LEGAL. People were allowed to discriminate against our grandparents with no consequences. They could reject them for jobs/houses based on their race. They could get chased and beaten up with no repercussion. It set the next generation up so poorly. When the first wave of Africans arrived (last generation) things were already cushty over here. Also the longer we stay in this country the more we lose touch of our cultural values. Caribbeans are 3/4 generations deep. Africans are only 1/2 removed generally.
Now that's a great point @MsDarkie93! Also you can add that some Caribbean folks also had with them an idea that White people were something special so they accepted alot of BS and thought to go along with the system rather than like Nigerians trick the system!
For me, this is the essential context a lot of the African community especially - do not understand fully, dismiss and disregard. I think it's the most important part of the conversation. It has caused serious generational trauma, and understandably - bioth able hatred and deep mistrust between many from the Caribbean community and various establishments & institutions.... leading to a deep disenfranchisement of many of the Caribbean community.
As an African, Caribbean’s were slyly racist towards us, e.g make fun of our accents and the way we are, sometimes more than the white kids
@@rash8615 why do some of you Africans always say this! You say the same thing about the Blacks in America making fun of you and that you consider racist!
It weren't sly. It was in your face discrimination. Lets not lie and im both@@rash8615
Complete respect for the Windrush generations ❤ x
Trust🙏🏾💙
And the British natives that let them in…
@@Piqueblinders11LOL you need to chat to your grandparents. The country was in shambles.
The audio quality in this video is superb. Crystal clear and pleasant to listen to
JEVON thankyou for blessing HCPod hosts with your presence and connection. I see. God rest and bless you with eternal love ❤ as you are born through you are eternal source of love ❤ x
Crazy Title lol
Veryyyy 🤯🤣
Jevon was so talented. Very sad. He deserved more recognition. I love his discography
Tony Sewell a big jokeman. Check into Prof Kehinde Andrews work where he discusses this same topic. Kehinde is the Uk's first Black Studies professor
Folowing on from Poet's excellent point: My Great Aunt got over here after being referred by my Grandfather, and married a monster. He had affairs, controlled her money, and beat the shit out of her. Even though she was known as a bit of a rebel, she had to do a LOT to leave him. My Grandfather and all of their siblings were raised by the church, so with the kids shevhad from men who had affairs, she was shunned for it for a very long time. They all reconciled later, but stories like that lived throughout that time, and the communities were underground and underfunded, and there wasnt knowledge at the time. It's incomparable.
ALLOW EA POET !!!!!! It felt right .. Cinema n that lol
Sometimes a little switch up is needed. Experiment within reason
The Windrush generation didn’t just include Jamaican’s (and I say that respectfully as someone who’s Jamaican). It was other West Indians too, let’s give them their props as well, Grenadians, St Lucians, Bajan, Trinis etc…
Very controversial , but I believe the real reason why there’s a difference in black academic performance is becausseeee, African kids are getting flogged more at home…
The pressure to not disappoint is buried within abuse, most of the time. Not all, of course but I think it’s important to talk about how much more of a sacrifice it can be for Africans parents to migrate to England to ‘better’ their children’s future. Whereas Caribbeans have more of a ‘link’ should I say? Windrush, Europeanised influence, etc. but in the same breath freedom of speech and expression is definitely more integrated within the Caribbean culture and in return less expectancy from their descendants. (Maybe?)
You clearly don’t know any white kids 😂😂😂 real British natives get beat way more than black people and they don’t talk about it and complain about it like black people do
Can't resist mentioning. Poets shirt matching Rupert the bears trousers 😂 x
Hard shoes that era was dead when I was younger, Bless up you mans
Can you add the time stamps into the description when you drop on Spotify?
41:25 large up poet for the explanation on the problem with Jamaican culture in the uk because as a Jamaican man I see myself following my parents in many ways and having to force myself away from their bad traits after seeing how successful relationships land
CZcams before streaming yeah. My guys!
Wa gwan for the Manchester event though?
Poet said " NO DIDDY!!"
Party was heavy before he came out..was partying a lil too much....and since slowed down with the partying since...if you get me
Correct PND has had crazy variations in his weight.
And 1 that will leave it " CARRYING WITH HIM" ? that must've been a VEEY SERIOUS PROJECT x
Alana defo the guy for this conversation. Spoken on it plenty.
As for Black academic statistics, yeh defo have someone qualified come in to talk. There’s a lot of historical context, e.g. how there were discriminatory practices in Britain that disproportionately & wrongly enrolled Black children in a subnormal educational system, esp ones of from British Caribbean backgrounds.
Another is how Caribbean men’s, particularly mixed race children end up in care & a wrong paths due to a hard start in life. Jamaican dad mixed kids are in care in high numbers, this is due to fatherless broken homes I’d imagine. That whole stereotype about Carib men having mixed children & abandoning them, isn’t a stereotype unfortunately. We see this & we acknowledge this in the community, I’d imagine that this impacts the academics of kids of Jamaican/Caribbean descent. There’s a lot of nuance to this topic tho!
Every country in the world discriminates against non natives….white British natives have the least funding per pupil……Britain was the first countries to stop the slave trade and tried to force the Muslims from stopping the slave trade
Black people had better education in 1960’s Britain then they get in 2024 Middle East….Middle East doesn’t even teach about the trans Saharan slave trade they’ve been doing for twice as long as white people
This is the case for all ethnic groups. The absence of a parent significantly impacts academic performance regardless of ethnicity
@@Andre-uw5bx this still doesn’t negate that this is prob one of the contributing factors to Carib students specifically***, having the poorest academic performance…
allow EA man
Hey, Chuckie! I don't know if you'll be able to read this but I've noticed the spacing in uploads on your CZcams so if you need with backlogs or future content like pumping out Shorts here and editing your podcasts, hit me up, my g - I partly run an outsourcing company with affordable employees from Southeast Asia.
So that while you don't post long forms, we can work on with shorts and other things
"Veey very difficult, very sad news" with facial expressions? 🤔 x SERIOUSLY 💞
African is too broad of a descriptor. Nigerian children have the highest attainment in education. If you look at stats by each country the stats are similar if not worse than caribbean children. Nigerian children do so well they skew the results of all African children.
You have to factor in population, bc Nigerians outnumber most other African countries. Obviously on census it’s Black African or Black Caribbean, so that’s accurately reflecting stats officially.
Bigger population plus visa restrictions/criterias
Where can we look at these stats? 🤔
First hand experience here, born in Jamaica in 1992, came to London August 98, have lived allllllllll over London, Uxbridge to Croydon. Black people cannot thrive here and it still bugs me, we don’t have that proper sense of community like eg Jews in Tottenham, Asians in Southall, we tend to see each other as enemies rather than trying to bring each other up. I’ve watched friends from different areas behave completely different based on where they live. We focus on materialism rather than the future and that happens from 14 years old to 34 years old, people behave the same way if you have that mindset. I saw from early people dying, people going prison, people being fostered, and quickly realised this country is not-for-all-of-us.
I have since bought my own detached home (outside London) own my little bimmer and still watch what happens in London, it’s a shit show.
Why is the country "not for us"? If you're not willing to work hard in any country you can't expect to succeed
Her name is Tumelo a Zulu girl from South Africa 🇿🇦 born in the UK
Akala would definitely be the best person to talk about African vs Carribean performance (as there is also a similar issue in the Asian community whereby Indians and Chinese are outperforming Pakistanis and Bangladeshis). He knows loads about the history of minorities in this country and his book is excellent on this issue
What kind of 'project' will leave someone with PTSD?????? X
The could never tell Rüdiger he can’t fast, that brother is strong willed.
these lot really preed PNDs album cover hard looool
1:12:52 The majority of the Muslim players in the French national team are from the diaspora, particularly from Africa. The way they are treated, with their religion often sidelined for the sake of football, is disgusting. It highlights the incompetence of the authorities in that country, not to mention the FFF. From a moral standpoint, they should represent their countries of origin, where they are not only valued as footballers but also respected as human beings.
Are you joking me? Muslims have special privilege… Muslims can mock Christianity in a Muslim country….yet Christians can’t even mock Islam in a Christian country. Let’s not even talk about how non Muslims are treated in Muslim countries
If only is Muslim countries supported non Muslims like the west treats Muslims…Muslims have special privileges in the west that non Muslims don’t….
lol I was the limo pull up
'PARTY NEXT DOOR' you can hear it, maybe even feel it, you know it's going on, and still you weren't invited 😂 how do you respond, 🤔 x
Is homie wearing a ups hat??
@9:28 😂😂😂😂
Alliance with The Weekend? I hope Future has his own best choice from his heart ❤ invested. Its a very constructive time to choose for the best and highest potential outcome for ALL x
CBE = Commander of the British Empire
Love this podcast but the way they talk to EA makes me uncomfortable
If I was am editor I'd put Poet Chuckie and Matt Hancock clips of Authenticity and 'rate the worste actor' x I'm so disappointed watching this episode, truth is beginning to sting a little x
Apparently drake and future beefin over a Colombian ting
How many time has this poet been to Jamaica? Over in Jamaica he is not one of them
Joker man
Taking it it's not Chinese it's Shensea 😭😭😭...but the settings from the start with no woman there is 100% no diddy
I swear all you man do is talk about drake… lloww it
Nah don't keep the Chinese in Jamaica
Agreed! They'll eat all the Wildlife on the Island and move towards other Islands such as Haiti, Cuba, Grenada, St Lucia etc. If those people can create COVID-19 and lie about it, they surely can ruin the Caribbean Islands within three years max.
Thank you💯
Why compare Africans to Caribbeans? They dont share the same culture, language, continent or religion. Dont get why all "Black" people are grouped together as if they should all be the same. Other groups aren't broadly grouped on skin colour and held to a standard. Even white people are separated into east European, Mediterranean etc. all with their own standards based on history
We cohabitate together though to make an overall Black British experience.
@@TulipaBigDipa What is a "Black" British experience? Regardless of race your experience is largely based on class, region and family structure
@@grahamg4529 Black ppl in Britain have a Black British experience. Let’s not do all lives matter bollox. There’s no regardless of anything when those intersections go hand in hand w our Blackness pls, let’s not be obtuse & reductive.
@@TulipaBigDipa You're just waffling. Is your "Blackness" the cause of being disproportionately represented as victims and perpetrators of crime, abortions and single family households? Why does the black British Experience oddly reflect the experience of lower class white brits, must be the blackness or something
@@TulipaBigDipa Does being disproportionately represented in crime victims and perpetrators come hand in hand with Blackness? What about single parent families and abortion? Like these aren't prevalent in all lower class areas
Africans know who they are. Growing up they laughed at my surname. But man like Jaden Williams was cool. Pressure makes diamonds. The jamaicans in school had inflated egos from sport and badness sns.
Nigerians are actually causing the disparity in stats. If you delve deeper into sub categories not all African children are outperforming caribbeans. Ethiopians for example perform worse.
You honestly believe that the teachers & ignorant kids miss pronouncing BabaTunde made you 'more educated'? You still have a chip on your shoulder regarding how some Jamaican kids were in school
@@pablo_fre5hcobar dont get it twisted. I love Jamaican people. Some of the funniest people on the planet. They also created the best and most influential music genres in the world. Ive even had dreadlocks for the past 8 years if u wanna go there..🤣but in school they thoufht they were the ish so never tried academically. Whereas my nigerian parents instilled morals that cant be infiltrated by external validation
@@bobzieian11 What's having dreadlocks got to do with Jamaicans? Respectfully I'm sure it's not just Jamaicans laughing at your surname
Question concerning your 'celebrity' generation. Show me how this was a 'new successful way out of generational hurt'?
This NOT about race, colour, culture, age or gender! FFS YOU KNOW AND I KNOW YOU KNOW 😇 X