How Historically Accurate Is Arthur Morgan? | Character Analysis
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0:00 Intro
0:47 Physicality
3:08 Skills
6:28 Personality
8:57 History
13:17 Clothing
14:48 Gear
17:48 Conclusion
18:24 Outro
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Jim Milton, or possibily Rip Van Winkle
Micah Bell
John or brother Javier
Charles
Arthur is definitly not 180lbs, if you have him at overweight he is atleast 230 and if he is average he is atleast 200.
What about perfect
@@user-rf3lk7sh8v probably 205 or 210
Yeah, 6'1" and 180 is pretty lean.
I always forget how big of a guy arthur was
180!is probably underweight Arthur
I think you need to also understand Arthur it’s more of a woodsman than a classy outlaw.
Dutch kind of puts on the front, but in reality they’re all just living in tents in the woods. So Arthur’s stature, fashion, and hygiene all stem more from canonically being on the road/trail for weeks and weeks and less townhopping
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ironically I think hes less knowledgeable about being an outdoorsman than the average person was back then.
first off hes a thief, so he can just buy or steal his food when he wanted to. he also isn't as well versed in outdoorsing as we think if he needs to be told that fish and berries attracts bears and hunts rabbits with shotguns. nor could he shoot a bow (which tbf prob wasnt common either), essentially is worse at fishing than everyone else he fishes with, and just isnt generally focused on hunting and outdoorsing when theres already people around him that do that.
I think his work ethic is more in line of a blue collar worker who would just buy food and only hunt when necessary than somone who actively goes out in the wilderness all day (hes already drained from being enforcer in every criminal activity, hes not gonna spend the other half of his day walking in the woods)
@@datguy8468 I think that's an interesting take with a lot of truth to it. The hunting mechanics give off the wrong idea about Arthur's prowess as a hunter. While we're given the ability to use different baits and craft various ointments, in-universe, I imagine he isn't well-versed in these areas unlike maybe a Hosea. Who hands him a crafted tonic early on & and tells him it's better than "that stuff he gets from the stores", to paraphrase and guides us in the bear hunting where he makes a snide remark on Arthur's style of shooting rabbits with a shotgun.
He probably only knows as much as he does because of the gang's lifestyle based on Dutch's affinity and life philosophy of living a free life in the wilderness and fighting for a savage utopia. Which might've naturally led to his bulkier build as well since he goes out for resources and does chores like wood chopping to maintain camp. Otherwise, he might've just stuck to town hopping and been thinner (as Mary says he was) like other outlaws of the time if Dutch hadn't took him under his wing.
@@themadtitan7603 yeah the whole trapper thing and hunting mechanics got people thinking arthur is an unkempt mountain man with a half foot long beard lmao. he's just a hard worker is all
@@datguy8468 Yeah, while I occasionally sport him such a look when I'm out for days outside of towns or camp grinding hunting challenges/quests, I'm generally not very partial to Arthur looking some homeless 1800s hippie with a big, unkempt beard and wearing animal hats and trinkets. I prefer him looking like a simple blue-collar working man with outlaw-y coats, vests, boots. Which is one reason I'm disappointed the more stereotypically western outfits were sort of lacking compared to the first game and the focus seemed more on the crafted hunting garments/sets that make Arthur look ridiculous walking around towns and even at camp.
Fun fact: When for players using controllers, when Arthur finds himself pressed up against Mary Lynn dodging the view of her father, you can feel the controller vibrate mimicking the patter of a human heart palpating. This shows Arthur's so in love with her his heart physically flutters. Kinda cute, kinda cool.
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@@dukemeiser19 Genuinely loved the video man. You took your time to do a lot of research and the quality shows.
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@@dukemeiser19 yeah i agree, good video keep it up bro.
That’s always been one of my favorite missions cuz it shows how human and normal Arthur is despite his rough and rugged lifestyle
Were there actually baddies like miss grimshaw back then
yea i bagged a few
Miss Grimshaw > Sadie
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Arthur is built tough. He can throw a 100+lb deer over his shoulder like a sack of potatoes.
rugged asf
Yeah I can barely drag a deer to the truck and I'm 5'8 155
@@dukemeiser19 he is not a skinny bitch he canonically buff and not skinny like you told in the video
@@Miller_TimeAnd I've never even seen a deer in real life.
You have to keep in mind, during this time period, everyone in cities, and townsfolk wore clean hats, suits, and were business men. So for Dutch’s gang to stroll through wearing coats, and rugged shirts, and holsters. It’s the equivalent to how gangsters wear tracksuits, and hoodies in today’s society.
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The first time I entered the Bastile in a muddy duster while everyone stared, it felt like a profound scripted moment
That puts it into a different perspective. Interesting observation actually
Probably only in St Denis though
Only Dutch fit in Saint Denis, the other gang members looked like hillbillies next to the general population
There is some inaccuracy in Arthur's "gunslinger outfits." Like his hat being made from leather which would be uncommon due to leather being a material that conducts heat and hats were usually made from cotton or some other fabric that wouldn't conduct as much heat since most working class people worked in the sun and didn't want to get hot. And his shirt being a full button down style would have been seen mostly in Europe, most shirts in 1890s America were half button down/pullovers style, aside from that Arthur's clothing is pretty accurate
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uncommon on unrealistic? Because there is a difference.
In Australia we’ll either have a rabbit felt hat or a straw hat leather hats are a bit more durable and they’ll usually be crushable, seen as he’s moving about quite abit packing would be a bit easier not to fuck up his hat
Pretty Accurate until I customise him...............But I don't make him absolutely ridiculous because that ruins immersion, I just make him stand out a little bit while still making him look professional. I even customise his revolvers and gives each of them a name
3:02 no, as a 6’1 man who has survived a bear mauling, trolley crash, shot to the shoulder and cliff diving from 1899- that is _in fact_ possible. You just have to be 6 ft tall
the extra inch gives arthur more lives
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Every inch of height above average equals 1 extra life.
And that's why women want men who are atleast 6ft
Fun fact about John (has nothing to do with video but anyway) John’s “Rip van winkle” name actually has a meaning to it van winkle is an old tale with someone having a nagging wife or lover John could’ve thought about this because he thinks Abigail is like that.
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Thanks for informing me! I always wondered what he meant by that line..
@@beanie640 No problem
"Rip Van Winkle" is a short story by the American author Washington Irving, first published in 1819. It follows a Dutch-American villager in colonial America named Rip Van Winkle who meets mysterious Dutchmen, imbibes their strong liquor and falls deeply asleep in the Catskill Mountains.
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A note on Arthur's formal outfits:
When Arthur wears a tuxedo it would actually be almost a faux pas, because the tuxedo was considered a semi-fornal suit at the time (the name tuxedo didn't come into use until the 1900s). The socially expected outfit for a formal evening dinner/ball/party - especially one hosted by a prominent figure - would be black shoes with spats, black trousers, a white shirt with starched cuffs and bib, a low-cut waistcoat, a high starched collar (separate to the shirt, as it would be buttoned on), a white bowtie, and a tophat. Gloves and a cane would be common accessories but not mandatory
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@@dukemeiser19 You can trust Mr because I had a look through one of my American 1890s tailor's pattern books for this comment lol
@@notdancooper923 always great to learn something new 👍
You've got to remember, the average life expectancy wasn't because people only ever lived to 50, it's because infant/child mortality was insanely high.
People over 50 would not have been a rarity, if you made it past childhood you had a good chance of making it into your 70's or older, just like today.
the amount of research Rockstar had to do for this game shows even if it is a bit hollywoody you gotta appreciate the amount of effort and work was put into every little detail
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I was so confused hearing someone say God bless at the end of a youtube video due to how rare that is. God bless you too.
Amen 🙏
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Dead eye was used to demonstrate how fast he was as drawing
He said that
@@user-ej9yo2nq6k made the comment before I got to that part in the vid
on durability-gunfighters were notouriously hard to kill, i cant recall his name but one gunfighter was shot in the eye, the bullet travelling through his skull through the other end-he survived to die of old age, another had his eyes burnt through by the flaming debris left by a shotgun being shot right next to him-went on to die of old age
crazy
I'm not sure that's because they were gunfighters, but rather they were just lucky enough to survive their injuries.
@@Boileryard it's some crazy shit indeed. Although, it's probably just luck (just like an old lady smoking 3 packs of cigarettes a day and living 90 years), we have to consider they were particularly resilient (physically and mentally), matter of fact; every stage of humanity has had one branch who was extremely resilient, in the past age it was the warriors such as romans and fellas like that. In the wild west it was people like Arthur Morgan and in this day and age it's probably uhhh... I don't know, this generation is particularly weak-minded, but if you figure something out let me know...
Well, I guess you get my point by now. cheers
Button downs such as arthurs were rare in the US, bibbed shirts were more common. Arthur's leather hat would also be rare, as most hats were felt. The pants, boots, spurs and neckerchief are accurate though.
So Arthur actually has drip?
@@user-jm3pt7kq6o yes
@@user-jm3pt7kq6o Historically speaking, yeah
@@user-jm3pt7kq6o Always has.
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can you please make a video dedicated into analysing as to why arthur morgan is so majestic and fine lookin'?
female gaze
@@dukemeiser19 i'm a dude but i still need to chew on arthur's muscles
Eh kills O'Drsicllos and doesn't afraid of anything.
to be fair, he cartelized the shot gun wound after digging the slug out
still was quite the feat, digging into an open burnt wound
Cauterised. Or cauterized if you're American.
Cauterized
"cartelized", that's a new one
Actually, it was the sunrise that Arthur watched before dying after tuberculosis
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@@Boileryard it might sound pointless, but it actually has a really important meaning. Earlier in the game, in a camp interaction, arthur says that when he dies, he wants to be faced to the west, to remember all the good times they had that way. But in the end, he dies facing the east, representing his redemption and change into a new person.
@@samdedmon8674 My guy it's just a sunrise. There's no super secret hidden meaning behind every single thing in the game. I admit the sunrise is rad af but there's really no hidden meaning here.
@@Boileryard No, it definitely has symbolic meaning. You can choose not to think of it that way, but it was absolutely intentional.
One note I would say in terms of weapons is the addition of schofield. While it was a bit more uncommon it was still prominent in the west. So it wouldn’t be too unusual if Arthur had one.
John W Hardin used one for many years before ending up in prison and after becoming a lawyer post prison he traded the schofield for a pair of colt lightnings
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In terms of dueling, the days weren't really that chaotic either. Just imagine it as you would imagine today. Most people wouldn't kill another person through out their lifetime, I think hunting was a lot more common though, so that would be the time when they shoot their guns. They also ABSOLUTELY wouldn't have the ammo to train! Ammo was real expensive, and buying ammo was hardly worth the price, even for hunting. So gun wielding experience was hard to come by.
yep
A lot of westerners were Army Veterans so a lot of marksmanship training there.
in the 1899 when the game takes place Cuba just got its independence from Spain with help from the united states just a year prior to the events of the game the war ended with Cuba gaining independence and becoming a protectorate of the united states
yep
Please do more of these videos about the characters! You can definitely count on me tuning in at the very least.
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So basically if it wasn't for gameplay mechanics and players choices he'd be perfect, that's pretty cool
essentially yea
I haven't watched the video yet but Arthur's initial/default look does have him wearing a leather hat, which I heard would've been very rare for the time. Also someone mentioned that button up shirts weren't common back then. So if both are true, then not exactly perfect.
@@themadtitan7603 just because it rare doesn’t mean he couldn’t have gotten his hands on them, it’s was mentioned that the hate was his fathers
@@Direwolf9818 I didn't mean to say that. Obviously by definition, it means he could.
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Let's not forget you can quickdraw without deadeye. I don't know how it is for console, but for PC its hold m1 and then press tab
Lightly press the trigger button and you’ll see him start to draw (for console)
The heights in rdr2 are all over the place. In many cutscene’s different angles make characters have different heights from shot to shot however we can confirm Dutch is 6’0 or Rockstar wanted it to be that way because Benjamin Byron Davis told how Dutch had to be shorten because in real life Davis Is 6’6. So they had a second actor for mo-cap who was 6’0. He was used in the trolley and other missions. Dutch constantly seems to be taller than Arthur so I’d say he’s about 5’11 or 5’10 which is more likely for the time but still taller than most.
i think john is 5’10/11 and arthur is 5’9
so pretty much still taller than average
@@dukemeiser19 you got me
The character models are always the same height tf are you on💀that’s just what all cinematic scenes do.
yeah, arthur is one of the guys you think is short/average due to his build when you see him from afar and then you realize he's taller than you and is just big as fuck. so def 5'10 or '11
In my opinion that Arthur is very historically accurate of how some men were of the 19th century. men did show a lot of their feelings Back then too. but Arthur body type is kind of like Eugene Shadows, a strong man from the 1890s. But men's clothing in the 19th century was very flamboyant stylish especially the gunslingers
good point
You mean Eugen Sandow
@@nibba3309 oh yes that's what I meant. sorry
Men showed their feelings but they understood there was a time and place
@@Fauwkes ok
to put it short, Arthur Morgan is a character and the main playable protagonist of the video game Red Dead Redemption 2. A high-ranking member of the Van der Linde gang, Arthur must deal with the decline of the Wild West while attempting to survive against government forces and other adversaries in a fictionalized representation of the American frontier. He is portrayed by Roger Clark through performance capture. Rockstar Games decided to focus Red Dead Redemption 2 on one character, in order to follow him more personally. They felt this was more appropriate for the narrative structure of a Western. Clark wanted to play Arthur in a manner that was complex enough for the player to choose any path and still have the character make sense. He took inspiration from actors such as Toshiro Mifune, John Wayne, and Rob Wiethoff, who played John Marston in the game and its predecessor.
Arthur has received acclaim from critics, with his complexity and path to redemption most frequently the subject of praise. Reviewers also lauded him for bringing the world and other characters to life, and ranked him among the most iconic video game characters. For his work, Clark accrued numerous nominations and was awarded Best Performance at the Game Awards.
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@@dukemeiser19 totally wasn’t copied and pasted form wikipedia 🤫
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I would say that your breakdown of Arthur Morgan, when comparing with historical accuracy of that time-period, is pretty spot on, given my own research of how times were back then and what life was like.
There is one area that I will disagree on, and that is Arthur's size. You say he is supposed to be 180lbs, but from my estimation, based on his wider build, I would say he is probably more around 230lbs - 250lbs, especially if you get him up to weight level 6.5 - 7.5, which to be honest I wish they'd actually given us pounds when showing Arthur's weight in the general stats area, instead of what they did.
If you want another character to review, and I do not know if you've already covered him as I am new to your channel, but I would reccomend John Marston, seeing as you cover Arthur Morgan here, covering john next seems very appropriate.
i haven’t covered john yet, thanks for the suggestion and for the comment 🤙
John Marston would be fascinating to me if they can find some solid sources on the possible inspiration. I haven't encountered any historical figure so far that's poised to be a possible inspiration on John like Arthur has with Doc Holliday's TB and age of death.
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I didn’t know that Arthur was 6. 1 and yeah, he is a stocky, build character, which why he fits more on riding draft horses, such as the iron gray Ardennes in the raven Blackshire, which, by the way, those are my favorite horses for Arthur meanwhile me I’m 511 so I’m almost tall as him
i can see arthur owning a nice draft horse
Arthur is not 6'1". It should be noted that Benjamin Byron Davis, Dutch's voice actor, claims that Dutch is 6'0". And if you watch the cutscenes, it's clear that Dutch is a little taller than Arthur, making him around 5'10" - 5'11".
So you are about as tall as Arthur.
As a general rule. I work with Belgian drafts and I think anybody trying to ride a draft horse looks ridiculous lol
I have to disagree that Arthur's 6'1", that's just a fan-based wiki making shit up. Javier is canonically 5'8" and Dutch is 6' so Arthur's more like 5'10" being between the two (in cutscenes at least)
I'm making a video game called Super Arthur Morgan Adventures, It has arthur morgan, but in my alternate universe Albert Einstein makes a time machine and accidentally goes back in to time and cures arthurs tuberculosis, and then dracula appears and turns arthur into a got dam vampire. then it flash forwards to the year 8093 AD, and in this future most people are god dam robot terminators that look like arthur morgan, and Arthur has to save the enitre human race or will he side with the machines?!?
it will have enjoyable sidequests such as stealing old ladies purses to buy money to smoke crack
and cover several decades
super morgan adventure
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1:05 I like how when he translated kilograms to pounds, he used a bald eagle sound effect and when he translated pounds to kilograms, he used sword fighting sound effects.
I cater to the people
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You called the double action inaccurate, but colt had double action on the American market by 1877. And Micah has 2 model 1892 double action revolvers. The colt thunderer was common by the early 1880s.
i meant inaccurate as in it literally can’t hit anything
@@dukemeiser19 oh ok, my bad.
@@dukemeiser19 Explains how Micah missed John on point blank
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Hickok, not Hitchcock. Hickok was a gunslinger in the 1800's; Hitchcock was a suspense/horror author in the 1950's.
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170 cm is 5'7, also I thought Arthur was 6'2 and 185. Just goes to show how all these height/weight reports on rdr charachters vary a ton, John's height is anywhere from 5'10-6'0, Arthur is anywhere from 5'11-6'2. There is no way to knkw for sure.
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Holy hell this video is awesome!
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Another long form video by the duke
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Yall ain't to believe this, but I was so excited to play RDR2 watching only the thumbnail that almost I immediatly started the game with the Steam Launcher and all. In the minute 3:05 , I heard the shotgun load (For the Rockstar Games loading icon) and when this video showed the title "Skills" it triggered.
Damn.
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John and then Red Harlow next plz
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Arthur Morgan is sort of based off of Jesse James in the Sundance kid. If he kinda looked at it in a way 2 and another thing is I forgot who John Marston is kind of based off of but Jack if. I'm correct his story matches up with all of them because the Maker outlaw sometimes they would have to lose their parents or they would have to run away from. Orphanages orphanage.
One big thing that people should keep in mind is that Arthur, and by extension the game and its world as a whole, are more inspired by westerns then the true 'wild west' of 1899. So a lot of it is a glamorized, and obviously unrealistic for the sake of good ol' fashioned fun.
Because it's Rockstar it feels more like a GTA in the wild west than it does a classic western: the action is WAY over the top, Arthur kills more people than the populations of certain towns, and just the sheer amount of what he does and explores in the span of a year is enough for the lifetimes of at least 2 men.
the one other thing I'll add is Arthur's height of 6'1. Being an outlier makes sense; part of the reason that Dutch uses him as the muscle of the group is because of his large stature and brooding nature. The giant horse that Hosea gives you at the beginning of the game is supposed to be a reflection of that, but since horses are living creatures in RDR, anyone can be tamed and ridden, they decided to make it optional rather than mandatory that you keep/use it.
very true
the thing is tho, charles is the strongest in the whole gang
@@jonicthehedgehog9379 hm, fair point, I would contend that they've known and raised/taught Arthur since he was a child, while Charles is a relatively recent addition to the group. Also Charles seems the type to be more hesitant to just rob and kill people for no reason, and I believe he's less inclined to use guns, maybe not as skilled or experienced.
I'm not saying Arthur's stature is solely why he's the breadwinner or "Bodygaurd" of the group (technically Javier, Bill, Lenny, John etc. are supposed to be pulling their weight to but alas), but I think that was just a factor in why the character's designers made the choice to make him as tall as they did
0:31 "I sent you my cigarette card pls respond" ahh pic 💀💀💀💀
he sent that one to mary linton
Awesome video duke I would really like a John marston version of this ALL HAIL LUNA
john one should be coming soon
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People lived through gun shots back then all the time but normally you were going to lose the leg arm idk about a shoulder though they didn’t have much medicine but they did know about using whiskeys and honey as a way to fight infection
idk if that much honey and whiskey could cure a messed up shoulder
@@dukemeiser19 oh most likely wouldn’t it’s not in a good spot to just be cut off I wasn’t saying it’s likely he would make I was just giving you the correction they had some basic understanding of infection and how to keep them away but compared to now it’s like not even close
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Please do the same for John Marston. Never played RDR2, because the first one did such a phenomenal job, with a character I related to in such a high degree. Would love to see an assessment done the same way as Arthur's
sure i can do that soon
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this unrelated to the video but that quote about fearing an old man in a career where men die young just made me fear Kanye West as a rapper
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I was JUST thinking about how accurate he was, subscribing right now
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@@dukemeiser19 Actually Ima edge till the is John historically accurate video.
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The floating beer bottle at 17:54
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Something els with author and doc holiday is that they both died at the same age
3:21 *Simo Hayha has entered the chat*
We are the mighty did wrote an article called "5 reasons why Arthur Morgan is an operator"
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Arthur is actually Welsh and some welshmen carry a gene that makes them really big and tall
Arthur is American. He’s got some Welsh descent.
@@LankyLanc03 his parents are Welsh just like John's parents are Scottish
@@bryce4359 Only his mother was Welsh. Besides, this is 1899, it’s hard to pin point the characters heritage. For example, his mother could’ve had English parents. It’s just easier to go down the broad ‘he’s got British heritage’ route.
@@LankyLanc03 That's a made up identity. His blood is not Amerindian so he is Welsh doesn't matter where he was born that's a postmodernist way of determining what you are it's a lie Wyatt E made up to justify colonization
Watch guys like Jerry Michelleke and other modern “gunslingers” you can see they are pretty close to aurhtow with deadeye
When my mom says pause the game, and I say I can't, she has something like dead eye, she slows everything way down
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Good vid we love to see the long form ❤
glad to be making some
My favorite outfit in terms of Arthur is the summer Gunslinger matter of fact I believe his outfit was in the original trailer that's why I like it so much and it fits him perfectly
it is a simple fit
It appearing in the trailers is why one of the reasons I like to wear it so much. The same reason why I also appreciate the clean shaven look (although I almost always make him bearded). I would've loved the Summer Gunslinger more if it was green with an undershirt like the cover art.
Glad to see that the only picture most men had of their fathers is a mugshot after being arrested. I’m comforted knowing that things haven’t changed at all over the generations lmfao “for those who don’t understand reference Arthur’s father’s picture of Lyle Morgan at 9:16”
some things never change - John Red Dead Redemption
He told Javier “You look like the Jack of Diamonds!” I lost my shit and laughed WAY to hard for way to long at that comment
People saying that 180 is too light forgetting individual differences. Not all tissue has the same density and for someone the size of Arthur it’s plausible that his build could be around 180-185. Course there’s some variation with how much you feed him but for his average size, I.e. not underweight or overweight I could see 180 being accurate, especially considering we don’t ever really see his legs and they likely wouldn’t be too big considering the activities he does.
I would’ve liked if you compared horses too, as in which horses would not have been in America at the time or if the stats were accurate and which horse would’ve Arthur realistically had.
arthur would most likely use a draft horse, strong animals
@@dukemeiser19 mfs will use the black shire then lol
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Yes, everything that is reliable data about gunslingers is folktales, but his story reads like a folktale.
yep
Hey can you do a video on where everybody lived all the gang members except for the people that we hear die I forgot to what their names are but could you probably do a video where all the gang members that we see die we’re still alive but except for Arthur and everything is played out as the same boat with minor changes like really big changes
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Ha I just started replaying this.
nice
You should do John Marston next
4:24 HITCHCOCK?!!! HITCHCOCK?
It's HICKOK boy.
I think the gang shit honestly fits, the van der linde gang isnt explicitly stated to be, but just feels like its supposed to be a kinda unusual outlier compared to the other gangs in the game
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Do a video on John as well
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Plus 10 points on accuracy for dying from TB as TB was Prevalent around that era
essentially
2:31 double actions did exist back then, Doc Holiday and Billy the Kid owned them
inaccurate as in the gun doesn’t hit its targets
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*Summary:* He’s built different.
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I see you did your research. Could you do character analysis on all the gang members?
that would be quite the series, for now I’ll focus on the main protagonists
@@dukemeiser19 The main protagonists of Red Dead Redemption series or other video games? Either way, I'm looking forward!
@@lbrett7054 main protagonists of rdr
@@dukemeiser19 Alright, see you there!
10:33 well that's what Abigail was when she joined the gang
she didn’t stay as one and eventually grew to be apart of the group
@@dukemeiser19 yeah but I can't imagine she was treated very well at first. So your original point still stands
Yo this guy sounds like High Boi’s brother I hope you do a collaboration.
He does the “explained by a idiot” series
i’ve heard that before yea
one tiny thing that always bugged me about RDR2's story, that point blank shotgun slug to the shoulder 100% should've killed him in Blessed are the Peacemakers. there's a major artery right there and i'd assume the blast pressure would blow his lung out (not a doctor.) he also gets shot once before in the same scene and it's never mentioned again. this is a tangent, but i don't understand why the o'driscolls didn't tie arthur up in the first place.
yea valid points
The guarma stuff is weird especially since the us owned Cuba and was occupying it at the time. I guess the Spanish American war isn’t canon?
i think it was still canon just not mentioned
I like the double action because i can kill my enemies slowly with it... (the npcs)
loved this historical breakdown as with the rest of yours. would love to see another one on marston next; hell maybe even a more in-depth one on all the members of the van der linde gang
i’d love to but it’d take a while, for now i’ll just focus on the protagonists 👍
You forgot to realize that arthur is truly just built different
he’s just that guy
I agree with everything except his sidearms. I think arthur would see the benefits of the schofield and use them. Also cannot get the navy in the story, sadly
true schofields were also popular
me and Arthur are the same build and hight im am 6ft1 but i don't see a belly so he is probably 200 or 210 pounds at the most i am 220 to 225 pounds and i bit of a belly but yes i believe Arthur can do most of that. i can i am a country boy my first ride was a horse i was 10 and learned to shoot at 11 hunt and fish all before i was 13 but with age comes experience and you see that in Arthur Morgan with Mary who uses Arthur to get things no honest person would do. i had an ex like her did exactly the same thing to me that Mary did to Arthur except my girl picked some rich guy and i was barely middle class and not an outlaw but he left her and sure as Mary she came asking for favors and i did what was asked but grew tired quickly as i believe Arthur would Mary only cared about what Arthur could do for her not him. near the end of the game we see that with Mary returning ring that was a semblance of their love because he was no longer useful to her anymore. he saw in the end it was never about love it was just her using him but i think in the end Mary visited Arthur's grave more from guilt for using Arthur than true sorrow
I mean Dutch picked the boy for a reason, he could fight well at a young age
Arthur is not 6’1 and the source is wrong
He’s not that taller than other characters in the cutscenes (since everyone are the same same height regardless bc of the models)
Dutch is 6’0 according to his voice actor
Arthur seems to be at least 2 inches shorter (or more) than Dutch
That sets Arthur at around a maximum of 5’10
Javier is confirmed to be 5’8 and looking at them in rdr2
The listing makes sense
Average American was 5’7 back then, and Arthur wouldn’t tower over the average dude in anyway
His weight also depends on the player
But my estimate is he’d be around 190-200 since he’s on the stockier side