Ex-Mob Boss REACTS to Red Dead Redemption 2 | Van Der Linde Gang

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  • Get ready for an unforgettable episode of Experts React on Gamology, as we bring together an unlikely but captivating duo: a former Caporegime from the Colombo Family and the critically acclaimed video game, Red Dead Redemption 2. In this unique collaboration, our expert will dive deep into the immersive world of the Wild West, drawing fascinating parallels between the virtual landscape of Red Dead Redemption 2 and the real-life experiences of organized crime. Prepare to be enthralled as our guest shares exclusive insights and anecdotes, shedding light on the game's authentic portrayal of power dynamics, loyalty, and the complexities of navigating a life outside the law. With their extensive knowledge and firsthand encounters, our expert will guide you through the intricate details that make Red Dead Redemption 2 a true masterpiece of storytelling and open-world gaming.
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    Set in the late 19th century, Red Dead Redemption 2 follows the gripping tale of Arthur Morgan, a member of the notorious Van der Linde Gang. Led by the charismatic and ruthless Dutch van der Linde, this band of outlaws navigates the unforgiving landscapes of the American frontier while struggling to survive against the relentless pursuit of law enforcement and rival gangs. As the story unfolds, players witness the internal conflicts and shifting loyalties within the gang, as Dutch's grand plans and ideals begin to unravel in the face of mounting pressure and personal rivalries. From the snow-capped peaks of the Grizzlies to the dusty streets of Saint Denis, Red Dead Redemption 2 offers a vast and meticulously crafted world filled with memorable characters, each with their own compelling narratives and motivations. Join us on this extraordinary journey as our expert unravels the rich tapestry of the Van der Linde Gang's saga, drawing thought-provoking comparisons to the real-world dynamics of organized crime and the eternal struggle between individual ambition and group loyalty.
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  • @gregorsteele8966
    @gregorsteele8966 Před rokem +10834

    I love how he appreciates the graphics

    • @MODERN-GAMING-IS-TRASH
      @MODERN-GAMING-IS-TRASH Před rokem +355

      Shit the game will forever hold up bro even the RDR1 game too lol.

    • @Mydadgotmilkuwu
      @Mydadgotmilkuwu Před rokem +2

      @@MODERN-GAMING-IS-TRASH truth.

    • @BurceVanUnenLOL
      @BurceVanUnenLOL Před rokem +134

      No shit, game is incredibly beautiful

    • @ASSASSIN19923
      @ASSASSIN19923 Před rokem +112

      still is no game today to surpass on details RDR2
      i doubt GTA 6 will surpass this and im not talk graphics , always GTA is arcade type , not realistic one

    • @zlevelx
      @zlevelx Před rokem +49

      arguably the best looking game of all time, I don't think even in 20 years rdr2 will look bad compared to what's new

  • @navtektv
    @navtektv Před rokem +5978

    I love that Dutch's plan just goes sideways from the get go. Kinda like how most plans go.

    • @recorepro
      @recorepro Před rokem +110

      Yea because of Micah

    • @TheOneManWhoBeatYou
      @TheOneManWhoBeatYou Před rokem +173

      It went at a nice pace, showing the end of the wild west and encroaching civilization and law, and the closer they got, the more desperate and irrational Dutch became

    • @mrgarina2977
      @mrgarina2977 Před rokem

      @@recorepro Not all, some dutch fucked up like it was planned to be fucked

    • @ImotekhtheStormlord-tx2it
      @ImotekhtheStormlord-tx2it Před rokem +23

      @@TheOneManWhoBeatYou micah was sabotaginh dutch everytime.

    • @FoxyThePirate
      @FoxyThePirate Před rokem +26

      "Dutch always has a plan" -John Marston

  • @emanuelmartinez7267
    @emanuelmartinez7267 Před rokem +6787

    I honestly would love to see a native who's well versed in American history react to Rains fall and his tribe. It would be interesting to see how accurate they were portrayed in the game with the added context of a tribesmen giving insight on the thoughts and feelings of his people during this time

    • @flowersknives0257
      @flowersknives0257 Před rokem +98

      This!

    • @northeastokwari1889
      @northeastokwari1889 Před rokem +499

      I plan on doing that someday. They're Lakota so it's better to get a Lakota though I'm Mohawk put it this way i know more about their culture than most non natives but less than a Lakota themselves. There s no Wapiti tribe but RF and EF are both Lakota Nation cause of th language spoken. I think Rans Fall might be personally based on Red Cloud while his son is more like Crazy Horse

    • @emanuelmartinez7267
      @emanuelmartinez7267 Před rokem +83

      @@northeastokwari1889 lemme know if you actually do the video, I'll check it out

    • @youreverydayweirdo6154
      @youreverydayweirdo6154 Před rokem +18

      Yea would be cool, too bad we killed all of them
      Edit: there seems to be some confusion, i was joking here. I just know we killed alot of them in the past

    • @brziperiod
      @brziperiod Před rokem +11

      Unrelated but Idk what tribe my mom's dad is from but ngl we need more games like AC4. The sheer energy I felt playing that....

  • @aveteranplayer6403
    @aveteranplayer6403 Před rokem +3685

    Ex-mob boss reacts to Angelo Bronte's mob would be amazing.

    • @metafication
      @metafication Před rokem +191

      Get him and a cowboy/historian together. That mini-storyline is all about old crime (rural riders) meeting the emerging, future way of crime (urban, suited goons). Would be interesting to see a clash of ideas/attitudes on both game and experts

    • @aveteranplayer6403
      @aveteranplayer6403 Před rokem +49

      @@metafication yeah, I think they showed very little about Angelo's Bronte mob. There is plenty of things to show over there. Also Mafia 3, which he never reviewed.

    • @cheefqueef6494
      @cheefqueef6494 Před rokem +7

      It would be interesting to hear him talk about the mob before Luciano's time.

    • @arthurmorgan2026
      @arthurmorgan2026 Před rokem +11

      I really thought that's what this was. Seems to make little sense otherwise. Still fun to see his reactions but it's unrelated lol

    • @littlejohnnymarston
      @littlejohnnymarston Před rokem

      @@aveteranplayer6403 SHUT UP DONT LET HIM WATCH ANYTHING ELSE

  • @krameleon7345
    @krameleon7345 Před rokem +767

    “I’d rather be loved than feared”
    His reasoning behind that is awesome. Love watching this stuff!

    • @Enoc63
      @Enoc63 Před rokem +51

      "easy both, i want people to be afraid of how much they love me" - Michael Scott

    • @greywalker505
      @greywalker505 Před rokem +12

      Finally someone who understands Machiavelli’s quote. “Better to be feared than loved *if you can’t be both.”*

    • @enenrax
      @enenrax Před rokem +16

      Fear makes people leave, love makes people get closer and stay.

    • @TheOneEyedWitchandAMouse3432
      @TheOneEyedWitchandAMouse3432 Před rokem +2

      As of rn, 96 likes, so eciN

    • @SamTheMightyMan
      @SamTheMightyMan Před 8 měsíci +9

      Makes sense. People would turn on a monster if they saw a chance, but a person you trust and respect has a moment more of hesistation.

  • @BlakeWR81
    @BlakeWR81 Před rokem +1913

    I love how Michael sees one scene with Micah after the bank job goes wrong and he's like, "Yeah, he gave them up." I've always been on the fence on the "was or wasn't Micah a rat" debate, but I think his immediate assessment closed it for me.

    • @houseofaction
      @houseofaction Před rokem +35

      he actually didn't give them up until after guarma

    • @BlakeWR81
      @BlakeWR81 Před rokem +186

      @@houseofaction We have no idea if that's true. It's a theory with some weight, but we don't know for sure.

    • @craig2196
      @craig2196 Před rokem +238

      @@houseofaction but ever since Micha joined PERIOD the gang was always running behind the Pinkerton's

    • @Triple-Four
      @Triple-Four Před rokem

      @@craig2196 That's because they kept shooting up every town and robbing every place they came in contact with. The pinkertons were searching for them constantly and the gang made it easier for them by being idiots. Micah didn't rat until after Guarma, that was confirmed by rockstar devs.

    • @craig2196
      @craig2196 Před rokem +76

      @@Triple-Four you really find it a coincidence that the second Micah joined Dutch started losing it? Also proof would be great. Link preferred.

  • @305backup
    @305backup Před rokem +3201

    He just made me realize.. What if Rockstar did a Mafia game.. holy crap I could 100% see that happening down the line and it would be so good. Nobody would expect that.

    • @nsahandler
      @nsahandler Před rokem +977

      ...
      Uh
      ...
      Anyone gonna tell him?

    • @eggharry
      @eggharry Před rokem +406

      @@nsahandler nah but they do need to remake LA.Niore

    • @ok9908
      @ok9908 Před rokem +441

      @@nsahandler Rockstar hasn't made a game yet that's directly about the Mafia.

    • @The_winds_of_change
      @The_winds_of_change Před rokem +129

      "Nobody would expect that"
      Except from you, apparently

    • @Rad-Dude63andathird
      @Rad-Dude63andathird Před rokem +497

      @@ok9908 You work for the mob in multiple GTA titles, and play AS a mobster in Liberty City Stories as well as Vice City. Believe or not, GTA V isn't the only GTA game that exists.

  • @Major98
    @Major98 Před rokem +995

    This is an unexpected surprise. Franzese has adjusted well despite being 70 years old

    • @Heyhowareya97
      @Heyhowareya97 Před rokem +137

      Dude ages like wine

    • @blacklight1104
      @blacklight1104 Před rokem +82

      @@Heyhowareya97 His presence highlights the importance of taking care of your self even in old age. That and his genetics are top notch.

    • @AlphaSniperAcademy
      @AlphaSniperAcademy Před rokem +76

      I know right? Dude carries himself like he's in his 40s

    • @BLAKDANGER
      @BLAKDANGER Před rokem +32

      Lol he looks 55

    • @justice_of_Youtube
      @justice_of_Youtube Před rokem +52

      He is 70? He looks like he is 50 lol

  • @Hank..
    @Hank.. Před rokem +277

    I wish they'd given Michael a bit more info about the scenes he was reacting to, especially the scene at the Braithewaite manor. Even gangsters would balk at the idea of kidnapping a 4 year old over a personal dispute.

    • @missdarling7806
      @missdarling7806 Před 10 měsíci +25

      @@user-ph3ji8gp3pI think he would’ve had something interesting to say if he knew they were pinkertons. Wish I could’ve known his reaction to that

    • @TexCen
      @TexCen Před 3 měsíci +2

      The Cosa Nostra in the U.S. - you're mostly correct. In Italy, or when talking about other mafia organizations like the Camorra and 'Ndrangheta...not so much, especially the former as the Camorra killed an estimated 200 children in Italy during the '90s. More recently, the Pope spoke directly to the mafiosi in 2014 about asking them to "stop doing evil" after the targeting and murder of a 3-year-old boy.

  • @stephenmckeown260
    @stephenmckeown260 Před rokem +812

    Met this guy in July . He’s a slight man, 5’7 probably 130lbs. But his eyes and aura are intimidating no doubt . He’s the real deal

    • @romanoonamor7690
      @romanoonamor7690 Před rokem

      And should be in jail

    • @josiahgonzalez942
      @josiahgonzalez942 Před rokem +26

      Wtf is this hunter X hunter? Never liked when people type or say the word "aura" UN ironically 🤣💯

    • @Pause-ta
      @Pause-ta Před rokem +169

      @@josiahgonzalez942 its just a synonym for a persons vibe, energy, etc. Its how we can tell certain people are bad to be around, and some are good.

    • @rayb8732
      @rayb8732 Před rokem +12

      @@Pause-ta with just one word " aura "

    • @professionalgamer6522
      @professionalgamer6522 Před rokem +6

      Wouldn't want to mess with him. He's got dat experience for sure

  • @SuperTyrannical1
    @SuperTyrannical1 Před rokem +515

    Video games are an under appreciated art that is becoming more and more recognised as a medium to tell a powerful story. He said he likes westerns, and as westerns go RDR2 has a great story.

    • @Realdrlipschitz
      @Realdrlipschitz Před rokem +49

      RDR2 isn’t just a great western, it’s one of the greatest stories told in a game period. Along with arguably the best protagonist a game has ever seen in Arthur Morgan

    • @futurestoryteller
      @futurestoryteller Před rokem +3

      I hate to bring this conversation to this particular game, because it was so well made and everything, but I think because players are actively involved that games can get away with fairly rudimentary stories and be considered narrative masterpieces without much effort. This _can_ happen with movies and I imagine literature too, after all, it has always mattered at least a little bit more how a story is told than what it contains.
      The story seems pretty safe to me as far as Rockstar games goes. The characters play their expected roles and don't really deviate from them. It feels like they reinforce the same points over an over, just in this one game, but up to and including rehashing the ending from the first Red Dead Redemption.
      I mentioned in the comments of a completely different video that the basic plot seems like it got a trial run in GTAIV's "Lost and Damned" DLC. Even though that almost seems _less_ safe to me because it has such a downer ending but they don't kill the protagonist at the end.
      I don't know. It's obvious I'm in the minority by being disappointed, and normally I wouldn't care but I think my biggest pet peeve is Rockstar never lets a story unfold. I don't know how many hours it takes to finish RDR2, but It would've been more interesting to me to see Dutch perhaps go from charasmatic, ideological revolutionary to a volatile gangster in love with the smell of his own farts. As it stands getting a whiff of his own farts is pretty much what we can assume he's always been about despite some disputed words to the contrary. If anyone thinks "well it's clever they let players decide for themselves" imagine how much more clever it would be if you showed us the gang at the height of their loyalty to Dutch, and we were _still_ in a position to decide for ourselves.
      Look at this way, in the first game Dutch suggests that Abbigail was a prostitute who slept with every member of the gang, even if the prequel retains the basic backstory of Abbigail's prostitution (I don't remember anything about it) they don't _really_ paint a picture of a gang were that scenario seems even remotely plausible. That's the kind of thing I mean when I say "safe"

    • @FazeParticles
      @FazeParticles Před rokem +9

      Also the graphics does it justice for old timers like him. No way he could look at say play station 1 graphics and enjoy it the same from spectating. Playing it of course is different.

    • @radicalman7304
      @radicalman7304 Před rokem +1

      I don’t even know if rdr2 can be just considered as a western at this point

    • @FazeParticles
      @FazeParticles Před rokem

      @@radicalman7304 the first and second parts of the story are western for sure. but once they move into the city the western theme is gone.

  • @monosaturated
    @monosaturated Před rokem +130

    "If I needed a gun, today... I'd have whatever I wanted." Something chilling about that line.

    • @Heyhowareya97
      @Heyhowareya97 Před rokem

      FR!!!! I think it’s because he wasn’t kidding 😂 he’s such an interesting guy but I can tell he is a scary mf if you get on his bad side from some of the stories he tells

    • @romanoonamor7690
      @romanoonamor7690 Před rokem +5

      Easier to get a fun than put a criminal in jail, somehow

    • @gustavesoucy-breton6841
      @gustavesoucy-breton6841 Před rokem

      black markets really improved, you can get anything from mexican cartels or the dark web these days.

  • @petirgarda1005
    @petirgarda1005 Před rokem +215

    Seeing Hosea got shot always stopped my heart for a second, every time...

  • @balintkovacs4089
    @balintkovacs4089 Před rokem +118

    The Pinkerton Detective Agency was a private investigator firm which back then was hired by the U.S. government as well as various private clients - such as Mr. Cornwall in the game - to deal with interstate crime cases that could be anything from a missing person case to taking down outlaws like the game's Van der Linde Gang. They were very expensive but had the largest force of field agents in the States; in a sense they were forerunner for the FBI. Also, something I noticed as a regularity in the commentary: cowboys are NOT to be mixed with outlaws and gunmen. Being a cowboy was a legitimate business of herding cattle from A to B across long distances and living on the rough along the animals, as opposed to ranchers who were working at a more or less fixed location. It was the bandits and outlaw gangs that made a living by robbing trains, banks, stagecoaches, etc.
    Fun fact: There was also a tradition of "cowboying" in Europe as well up to the mid/late 1700s in Central Europe and the Balkans, with medieval Hungary being the biggest contributor to it. Since Hungarians had a nomadic ancestry before settling in Europe, trekking long distances with animals wasn't at all a strange concept and they herded quality cattle for meat and hide as far as the markets of London. In Hungarian we called these people a "hajdú" (hajdúk in plural) which is a derivative of the word "hajtó" which means - among other things - a herder or cattler.

    • @Halocon720
      @Halocon720 Před rokem +1

      And then apparently the plural “hajdúk” became a singular in Romanian as “haiduc,” and in South Slavic languages too, IIRC

    • @canadianeh4792
      @canadianeh4792 Před rokem

      I didn't know that about hajdu! My great grandparents came to Canada from Hungary as refugees in 1914. I raise cattle now in western Canada (BC).

    • @balintkovacs4089
      @balintkovacs4089 Před rokem

      @@Halocon720 Yes, because Slavic languages have a more rigid vowel-consonant harmony system and can't handle words ending in a vowel that well.

    • @balintkovacs4089
      @balintkovacs4089 Před rokem +1

      @@canadianeh4792 In all fairness, by that time in went out of existence as a profession :D But that's very interesting and nice to know :)

    • @antthomas7916
      @antthomas7916 Před rokem

      Yes, but cowboys did also venture into outlaw or bandit territory as well. Some cattle barons made their cowboys commit crimes such as murder, intimidation, and robbery. There's some interesting stories out there about it on CZcams.

  • @BurceVanUnenLOL
    @BurceVanUnenLOL Před rokem +579

    Love his reactions. Gives me a perspective on how realistic and unrealistic is, during this time period.

    • @futurestoryteller
      @futurestoryteller Před rokem +36

      He's not really a historian. But he is a smart guy who's lived quite a bit of life

    • @OccupiedMuffins
      @OccupiedMuffins Před rokem

      how? hes not a historian lmao

    • @altair5240
      @altair5240 Před rokem +5

      @@futurestoryteller Was about to say that, he's smart but defo not a historian. Train robberies weren't as common as people think, over 50 years between the 1860's to the 1910's there were only about 1,000 or so recorded train robberies, and that's just in general, failed and successful robberies.

    • @lawrencetalbot8346
      @lawrencetalbot8346 Před rokem +2

      Check out his reactions to the mafia games. Much better assessment since he was actually in that life (instead of an outlaw cowboy 50+ years before he was born).

    • @rwholemilkisgood5050
      @rwholemilkisgood5050 Před rokem +5

      @@altair5240 I mean the population was much smaller back then so 1000 is still a big figure

  • @PhamBoy91
    @PhamBoy91 Před rokem +52

    I think it's cool to have an actual ex-capo of a real mob to validate everything in a mafia game. It's like sitting in a classroom and a special speaker comes in and you're just locked into his speech. I love the authenticity.

  • @derrickhaggard
    @derrickhaggard Před rokem +566

    Let's just say killing Micah aka giving that sniveling, cowardly rat what he deserved as John in the post-game epilogue was so satisfying and it helped that I hated Micah's guts due to how he acted in the main story.

    • @alinvid6098
      @alinvid6098 Před rokem +14

      Van der Linde helped kill Micah too... in fact if he hadn't helped you you wouldn't have been able to kill him in the game...

    • @danielportillo1349
      @danielportillo1349 Před rokem +66

      @@BradenOnYT no one hates Micah more than The actor lol! he even said so himself he was legit hurt playing out the scenes but knew he had to be the bad guy n be hated.

    • @space7681
      @space7681 Před rokem +40

      It’s sad that killing Micah basically got John killed because it got the Pinkertons back on him

    • @BLALS32
      @BLALS32 Před rokem +2

      Ok

    • @HESHRocketWarhead
      @HESHRocketWarhead Před rokem +18

      @@space7681 Revenge is a fool's game.

  • @MrPwner911
    @MrPwner911 Před rokem +392

    I'd be down to see Michael react to Mafia 3. Granted it's the least Mafia-like but it's more or less around his time as a mobster/captain at that point.

    • @Bateluer
      @Bateluer Před rokem +29

      I would too, since he mentioned one of the main bosses in Mafia 3's New Orleans allegory.

    • @futurestoryteller
      @futurestoryteller Před rokem +6

      Admittedly I don't know the overall plot of the game. But he said in his American Gangster video that he doesn't really distinguish mob guys based on race, and that in his opinion Frank Lucas was one of the greatest mobsters that ever lived. So if if it's mostly about the black protagonist I don't think he'd find fault there, not the way... some gamers have

    • @Bateluer
      @Bateluer Před rokem +28

      @@futurestoryteller Mafia 3's issues weren't due to Lincoln Clay being black, he was a great protag with a compelling arc. It was the game's lackluster sandbox that dragged the game down. Watching a 'Mafia 3 Movie' youtube video of the main story is awesome.

    • @futurestoryteller
      @futurestoryteller Před rokem +4

      @@Bateluer I've heard the criticisms you're talking about but Mafia is the game that fans tauted as "so realistic you have to actually fill up your gas tank" . I mean... have you played the opening of the first Mafia game from 2001? It made me want to blow the back of my skull out, and suddenly the hardcore fans of _this series_ have a problem with realist tedium.
      I saw a lot of "This isn't a mafia game, the main guy is against the mafia in this game"
      So I'm aware that there are people who criticize every game in good faith, I was referencing people who drag down games like this - transparently - in bad faith

    • @Bateluer
      @Bateluer Před rokem +5

      @@futurestoryteller I've only played the remake/remaster for Mafia 1 and 2, normal release for Mafia 3. I didn't find them to be models of realism. I maintain what I said about M3 . . . it was the lackluster open world sandbox implementation, not Lincoln Clay that dragged it down. M3's main story, supporting cast, and multiple endings are all great. The after credit scene with John Donovan is legendary.

  • @adrianaslund8605
    @adrianaslund8605 Před rokem +147

    Whether it is accurate or not. The acting and characters and setting is just top notch. Its really a good modern tribute to old western movies. If it somehow came out in the 60's it would be a hit for several reasons. Not just because of the alien high tech technology its run on.

  • @joebenzz
    @joebenzz Před rokem +71

    Shows that no matter the time period, the gang life is the same no matter what.

    • @QuothTheRavenclaw11
      @QuothTheRavenclaw11 Před rokem +13

      It's interesting. Humans act different but quite the same simultaneously no matter what time period. I'm sure we won't change much a hundred years from now.

    • @ElPayasoMalo
      @ElPayasoMalo Před rokem +6

      At least with Dutch, he wouldn't have you killed if you just decided to leave. I mean, before he went off the deep end, of course, but as early as the Lemoyne exploits, anyone could come and go. Marston left for one or two years and was welcomed back with open arms.

    • @Princess_Celestia_
      @Princess_Celestia_ Před 10 měsíci

      ​@@ElPayasoMaloTwo years. Marston left for two years and Morgan complained that no one else would have been welcomed back like that after being gone so long.

  • @BayAreaMike99
    @BayAreaMike99 Před rokem +200

    I would love to see him react to GTA 4 since he was in the New York mafia, and you have to deal with a lot of crime families in that game Russian, Italian etc

    • @Lazer-bp9lf
      @Lazer-bp9lf Před rokem +27

      True and GTA 4 surprisingly got most of the things right for the mob world of real life NYC.

    • @themadtitan7603
      @themadtitan7603 Před rokem +17

      I'd love a GTA IV reaction video. In fact, it would've made more sense for Michael to react to than RDR2 since it even depicts the Five Families of New York including The Colombos.

    • @nathanmonteiro2822
      @nathanmonteiro2822 Před rokem +12

      For me GTA 4 is almost like a sopranos game adaption, especially towards the end where you are deeply involved in the new york/new jersey mafia.

    • @BayAreaMike99
      @BayAreaMike99 Před rokem +3

      @@nathanmonteiro2822 fr the overworld, dark, depressing, bleak vibe is just like sopranos

    • @themadtitan7603
      @themadtitan7603 Před rokem +7

      @@nathanmonteiro2822 I've always loved that quality about IV, it has this feeling to its story and world that no other crime game quite gives me. I can only hope that one day we'd return to that same Liberty City and cast of characters.

  • @Skaffa_Duck
    @Skaffa_Duck Před rokem +19

    3:10 They were essentially tipped off
    They raided a rival gang camp
    And found plans to rob a train
    And figured if their rivals wanted to rob it there must be something worth it

  • @lukemccartney826
    @lukemccartney826 Před rokem +105

    Wow I remember watching his break down of mafia 2 glad to have him back.

  • @_Woody_
    @_Woody_ Před rokem +18

    Love the way the camera was on Micah when he said "somebody gave you up".

    • @futurestoryteller
      @futurestoryteller Před rokem

      Yeah, what a twist that was too you know - I remember being like NOT MICAH he's such a good guy!

  • @happyslapsgiving5421
    @happyslapsgiving5421 Před 9 měsíci +12

    My man was already making calculations to understand whether he and his people could take the Van Der Linde gang.
    Gotta appreciate the way such a mind works.

  • @E-GeL
    @E-GeL Před rokem +102

    I'd like him to react to more RD2 content but at least give him some context of cutscene instead of a blind reaction cause he might have a different opinions/reaction if he know what's actually happening

    • @jacobsampsonis7782
      @jacobsampsonis7782 Před rokem +23

      Right? He gets introduced to the mob boss and the next scene, he's been kidnapped already, in his pajamas and gets drowned. Maybe the scene where they actually assault his estate and kidnap him?

    • @themadtitan7603
      @themadtitan7603 Před rokem +14

      @@jacobsampsonis7782 Yeah, this is something that has always bothered me about these reaction videos.

    • @NoobsofFredo
      @NoobsofFredo Před rokem

      @@themadtitan7603 Aye, full agreement.

    • @scottmemelord6130
      @scottmemelord6130 Před rokem +2

      It's not even a spoiler problem because, Michael isn't gonna be playing RDR2. Let's be honest. lol. So I don't think spoiling him on the plot is going to really matter.

    • @antthomas7916
      @antthomas7916 Před rokem +1

      @The Mad Titan I see you on every RDR video ha. I'm glad someone is as big of a fan as i am.

  • @pastapirate
    @pastapirate Před rokem +10

    Really enjoyed what he had to say at the end about it's better to be loved than feared. There is definitely a lot of wisdom in that and it's VERY in line with Arthur's whole character arc in the game.

  • @fallenkafiel
    @fallenkafiel Před rokem +36

    The storyline is masterpiece

    • @bbb462cid
      @bbb462cid Před rokem +3

      it actually has some big holes but overall, the way the story is told IS a masterpeice

    • @inputfunny
      @inputfunny Před rokem +6

      I disagree. The characters are great, but the storyline basically amounts to: "We need more money Arthur!" "Let's go get some money!" (Something goes wrong) (Big shootout). Rinse and repeat for 50 hours. Also it's silly that they're in constant need of money when the player can be carrying thousands of dollars; which would probably be worth hundreds of thousands these days.

    • @thenameless9224
      @thenameless9224 Před rokem +1

      @@inputfunny Still, it's a good history, a little repetive sometimes, but most of the scenes and camera plans are very cool, besides, sometimes what makes a good game isn't the original history line, You could watch for example "Little Nightmares" and "Little Nightmares 2" both of them have kind of the same history "we are in an unknown world and the only thing we can do is survive" now, the cool thing about little nightmares it's how is shown in the story, while you are escaping to survive, lots of things are going on in the background, and if you play both games maybe the first time you won't get it, but after playing it some times you will understand some of the symbolisms and parts of the history of why the world is like this.

    • @themadtitan7603
      @themadtitan7603 Před rokem +6

      ​@@inputfunny That perfectly describes RDR2's story. It's a masterpiece of a character exploration and writing but as a plot with missions, it's a great but flawed story. Chapters 4 with Bronte is rushed, Guarma is a weird, abrupt detour from the main game and Chapter 6 quickly tries to wrap stories brought up earlier like the Wapiti tribe in the middle of the gang's downfall. Again, it's a good story, but I don't think it'd be as excellent if not the excellent character development and performances.

    • @ken_ny416
      @ken_ny416 Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@inputfunny many big robberies by them failed ...and players money together is low to start a new life because the money is distributed as a whole..and they re really had money dutch snapped and wanted to create chaos

  • @zahreel3103
    @zahreel3103 Před rokem +56

    My favorite guy! Feature him more often!

    • @Nrzpokrter
      @Nrzpokrter Před rokem +4

      Not sure if you know, but in case you dont, he has his own yt channel. Check it out if you havent.

    • @zahreel3103
      @zahreel3103 Před rokem +2

      @@Nrzpokrter I didn't know! Thanks!

    • @grandmasterblueberryice4882
      @grandmasterblueberryice4882 Před rokem +1

      @@Nrzpokrter name?

    • @Nrzpokrter
      @Nrzpokrter Před rokem

      @@grandmasterblueberryice4882 Just his name and surname: youtube.com/@michaelfranzese

    • @romanoonamor7690
      @romanoonamor7690 Před rokem +1

      No. Let's put him where he belongs, in jail. Let's not give him a job.

  • @popo0129
    @popo0129 Před rokem +23

    I love how he talks about the events happening not as someone who will claim he knows the lifestyle of the wild west but as someone who wonders and thinks about if it was like that and maybe add some of his experience to it. Really fun listening and thinking about it as well. He has a point about security, it isn't like today where there are cameras or other security measures. I do wonder if they had the five families then how would it had been like.

  • @xaviervega468
    @xaviervega468 Před rokem +9

    In the first train robbery it was actually scouted and planned by the rival gane the O'Driscolls. The Van Der Linde gang gets wind of it when they raid an O'Driscoll camp and decided to do the job themselves.
    Also I remember a video you made about the Cosa Nostra originating in New Orleans. San Denis is the equivalent of New Orleans in RDR2.

  • @RDR2_PLAYER.
    @RDR2_PLAYER. Před 3 měsíci +17

    How tf are you finding these people

  • @themadtitan7603
    @themadtitan7603 Před rokem +26

    I would've loved more emphasis on Bronte's crime syndicate in Saint Denis (RDR's New Orleans) and Michael's reaction to it and the idea of the criminals of the old meeting the new, civilized form of organized crime that he brought up. Still, it's always entertaining to hear his insight into crime stories.

    • @josiahgonzalez942
      @josiahgonzalez942 Před rokem

      Hey bud we see you on every read dead video comment section. Calm down its not that serious getting a reaction 🤣🤦‍♂️ in am curious how you have this much free time on your hands? Unemployed or just a kid?

    • @reggiejacksonfan6823
      @reggiejacksonfan6823 Před rokem

      @@josiahgonzalez942 lmfao damn

    • @miguelnewmexico8641
      @miguelnewmexico8641 Před rokem +4

      @@josiahgonzalez942 really seems like you're describing yourself here.

  • @Tom666x
    @Tom666x Před rokem +3

    "Be loyal to what matters." - Arthur Morgan, 1899

  • @mrgoober8805
    @mrgoober8805 Před rokem +30

    Now this is content!!! Keep up the good work ex Mob Boss!!!

  • @Wiliraughshai
    @Wiliraughshai Před rokem +9

    There actually were many rules of war in these times. One of the most commonly known was that bayonets cannot be triangle shaped because it made nearly unsalvageable wounds. Reason these laws and practices existed was because many of the lawmakers and politicians of the time partook in the war and saw or even were subjugated to the effects of it so they had first hand experience on "what was just too far".

    • @joeligma4721
      @joeligma4721 Před rokem +1

      The triangular bayonets myth is pure cap

    • @Josep_Hernandez_Lujan
      @Josep_Hernandez_Lujan Před rokem

      That's a myth

    • @joeligma4721
      @joeligma4721 Před rokem

      @@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan No shit?

    • @JFNelson18
      @JFNelson18 Před rokem

      Nope. Triangular bayonets were never banned, didn't cause more grievous wounds, and were actually designed like that to make them more durable. Give a grunt an expensive, fragile peice of kit and he'll show you how to use it to pound a nail in.

  • @shawnlawson79
    @shawnlawson79 Před rokem +8

    Much love for Michael, love to hear more of Sammy's views about some of the real serious games of the Era now.

  • @SloppyStones
    @SloppyStones Před 5 měsíci +1

    2:48 He says 'Where does he get the information from' they got it from The O'Drisolls

  • @BigDoggTheDon
    @BigDoggTheDon Před 3 měsíci +2

    Good point about being feared and loved. Arthur and John truly loved Dutch despite his faults and never betrayed him to the law unlike Micah. We can the same with Molly and even Strauss they never said anything

  • @Noizzed
    @Noizzed Před rokem +9

    God-like episode, Red Dead and this guy are a perfect match, we need another video

  • @All-Fur-Coat_No-Trousers
    @All-Fur-Coat_No-Trousers Před rokem +29

    Holy Michael Franzese, Batman! I watch his videos all the time, and it feels like such a treat to see him on Gamology. We're spoiled.

  • @abdulrahmanabeid5918
    @abdulrahmanabeid5918 Před rokem +2

    Love how he talks about being loved or feared. I agree with him.

  • @Randomnoobi
    @Randomnoobi Před rokem +5

    "Gotta tell ya, these cowboys had balls". Best line of the video!

  • @Alimcl990
    @Alimcl990 Před rokem +4

    I really enjoyed this video thanks!

  • @BerishaFatian
    @BerishaFatian Před rokem +19

    I think It would be better if Michael reacted to Mafia 3, GTA 4-5, Sleeping Dogs or the Yakuza games.
    Doesn't seem like the wild west is something a mafia boss can relate to as much.

    • @themadtitan7603
      @themadtitan7603 Před rokem +4

      Yeah, and if they wanted him to react to RDR2, it should've focused specifically on Angelo Bronte's part of the game.

    • @josiahgonzalez942
      @josiahgonzalez942 Před rokem

      @@themadtitan7603 why is your nerd ass on EVERY red dead video I watch? 🤣🤦‍♂️ not even annoyed I'm just like amazed you have this much free time on your hands lmao

  • @FreeThinkingRealist
    @FreeThinkingRealist Před rokem +1

    "Better to be loved than feared"... Life lesson right there!

  • @TheRealKwisty
    @TheRealKwisty Před 11 měsíci +1

    When you go into depth on what is better, to be loved or feared, I've always been told that it's better to be feared, however i've always been a firm believer that loyalty is the most important thing to have (to be loved). I would get ridiculed by my answer everytime by people around me, but in turn would see the same people have their lives flipped on their heads when someone close to them either stabbed them in the back or betrayed them because of monetary gain, attention, lust or fear as you put it. I might've lost a ton of people in my life due to being too naive, hoping people have a good heart by default, but in turn I've slowly regained a circle of people that not only are understanding and loyal, but also ready to have my back... which is shocking, but so refreshing to experience. I'm not of course fully there yet, but it's slowly becoming a reality.

  • @tyranniccubone8259
    @tyranniccubone8259 Před rokem +6

    Love is a far better motivator then fear. I would never betray someone I love out of fear, but I would certainly betray someone I hate out of fear, and since I usually hate the people I fear that would be a problem for the person I fear less.

  • @rj6288
    @rj6288 Před rokem +52

    I can sit and listen to his stories for hours. He’s such a cool dude

  • @fattyMcGee97
    @fattyMcGee97 Před rokem +5

    I can confirm through a friend of mine that it is possible to pay your way out of the mob. He got caught up in a gun fight while picking up drugs from the triads. Decided that's not how he wanted to go. Paid 10k to get out quietly. That was nearly a decade ago. No trouble since then.

  • @ragekage3175
    @ragekage3175 Před rokem

    I’ve been watching some of Michael’s stuff for awhile now, his great with his words, I never quite expected this to be honest

  • @blaketindle4703
    @blaketindle4703 Před rokem +4

    So glad he’s reacting to this game!

  • @janvesely1087
    @janvesely1087 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Where does Gamology find these people 😭

  • @peo4989
    @peo4989 Před rokem +7

    This game has something for everyone us western lovers and outlaw gangs. Storywise its also awesome and you really get emotional. Not alot of games make you feel that way :)

  • @jackhughes9811
    @jackhughes9811 Před rokem +2

    8:40 i like that Michael likes Hosea's words of wisdom..

  • @Arxcol
    @Arxcol Před rokem +1

    Been waiting for this one Keep posting great Videos Gamology i appreciate the work you put in theese videos gamology keep posting

  • @TLBgaming0330
    @TLBgaming0330 Před rokem +5

    Now we got to have the ex-mob boss and Chris the Cop react together to a project

  • @Tadicuslegion78
    @Tadicuslegion78 Před rokem +5

    He mentions Yellowstone, I wonder how much grey area "organized crime" occurs on some of these ranches out West. Grey area in that it's in that weird dubious legal limbo where ranchers are the law unto themselves in certain areas

  • @becca2938
    @becca2938 Před rokem +1

    I love that despite not being some big expert on the old west, historically speaking, he still applied his knowledge of his experiences with the mafia to how gangs used to function back then. The fact that everything he said was spot on blows my mind. It just shows how much old practices carry into the new. Even in a different time period, things could be the same. You could put the Van Der Linde gunslingers next to a bunch of Capone's lieutenants and they'd probably be similar in everything except for appearance.

  • @Jay-Ce
    @Jay-Ce Před rokem +2

    Fear also leads to resentment, and resentment to hate. And when you hate someone, you'll do everything to see them burn

  • @imperialdroidbattledroid013

    I must remind everyone, during the events of RDR2 (Red Dead Redemption 2), the year was set in 1899, while the wild west ended in 1865. During the early 1900, we are beginning to see the construction of cities, federal law, and travel on a national scale. RDR2 represents the end of the gunslingers and outlaws, where the last few criminals and vigilantes are hunted down and either arrested or hung.

    • @DeadPixel1105
      @DeadPixel1105 Před 5 měsíci

      1) We know what "RDR2" is. No need to add "Red Dead Redemption 2" in parentheses.
      2) You don't need to explain the plot of RDR2. We fucking know. In fact, what you just said is explained with text in the opening of the game.

  • @kerrick7621
    @kerrick7621 Před rokem +6

    Mike says it wouldn’t be easy to kidnap a mob boss. It wasn’t they killed like over 2 dozen guards to get to Brontë 😂

    • @TheHouse2281
      @TheHouse2281 Před rokem

      I don’t think they showed him that part

  • @TrueApexMusic
    @TrueApexMusic Před rokem +2

    With how much he talks about contingency plans I’d love to see his idea on the failed trolley robbery

  • @visiblecontent.
    @visiblecontent. Před rokem +4

    The man who lived being caporegime and reacting to the games is amazing. Mafia definitive edition next please!!!

  • @connor_is_k
    @connor_is_k Před rokem +21

    We need more of the old assassins creed games

  • @Rares_G4H
    @Rares_G4H Před rokem +2

    Michael Franzese should take a look at GTA 3D mob families sequances. From Forelli Sindacos and Leone.

  • @1C3CR34M
    @1C3CR34M Před rokem +1

    Oh, to clear some confusion. The game is set in 1899, when outlaw gangs were dying out and the mafia was rising.

  • @_Woody_
    @_Woody_ Před rokem +5

    The question is: *Did he have faith in the Plan?*

  • @Yungbeck
    @Yungbeck Před rokem +4

    This is so random but I love it

  • @Vespyr_
    @Vespyr_ Před 6 měsíci

    This guy is fascinating. Id love to see more of him.

  • @ChipipoydotcomdotPH
    @ChipipoydotcomdotPH Před rokem

    Dude ive been waitinh for thisss

  • @n8than26
    @n8than26 Před rokem +5

    I wish I can experience RDR2 for the first time again, it's been 2 years... I hope I can quickly forgot everything about it and replay it..

  • @x0x0skiller2
    @x0x0skiller2 Před rokem +4

    Damn was just watching red dead 2 videos, today, never played either one, and was just watching his videos yesterday! What a time pleasant surprise

    • @x0x0skiller2
      @x0x0skiller2 Před rokem

      @Brief Keef I plan to play the second game soon

    • @tammykolu1242
      @tammykolu1242 Před rokem +2

      you should play it its like a real life simulator it feels so real

  • @zach415
    @zach415 Před rokem +1

    6:35 they’re in a city based on New Orleans, Louisiana. And if you know your mob history (which I’m assuming you do) the Italian mafia originally set up in New Orleans. In fact in 1891, so roughly 8 years before the game is set, Police Chief David Hennessy was shot and killed either by members of the Mantranga or Provenzano family which led to the New Orleans Lynching, the largest lynching in American history in which 11 Italian-Americans were killed

  • @mrcvgamerman
    @mrcvgamerman Před rokem +2

    I love that you guys manage to find these people lol

  • @Garf_malarf
    @Garf_malarf Před rokem +6

    I would pay money to see Michael play this game on twitch.

  • @a_good_doggo
    @a_good_doggo Před rokem +4

    I like how the mob boss is congratulating rdr for completing jobs

  • @ghost.2527
    @ghost.2527 Před rokem +1

    1:26 "how well planned was this"
    Dutch coming up with a plan a zectosecond after that:

  • @michaelbethel106
    @michaelbethel106 Před rokem +1

    Another amazing video

  • @GamesRUs-bj2ut
    @GamesRUs-bj2ut Před rokem +3

    This is gonna be good

  • @RedsDeadBaby
    @RedsDeadBaby Před rokem +6

    Have him react to Papa Bronte

  • @litneyloxan
    @litneyloxan Před rokem +2

    He’s so right about it bein hard to fight back when someone decks you in the face multiple times 😂

  • @isaacgleeth3609
    @isaacgleeth3609 Před rokem +1

    To be loved and feared (or the latter, if both were not possible) was a quality that Niccolo Machiavelli described as fitting for a leader.

  • @leoncoben6983
    @leoncoben6983 Před rokem +8

    7:48 I thought the same thing when I got to this scene. I mean we knew it wasn't going to ever happen at this point, but had we been in his position I think most of us wouldn't have tried that angle. Maybe if Dutch WASN'T there it might've seemed like a play, but you don't really want to try that when the boss is right in front of them.

    • @brcsephina
      @brcsephina Před rokem

      when i got to when he said that, i was dying from second hand embarrassment. he really tried it

  • @seifmo4582
    @seifmo4582 Před rokem +6

    I would like to see him reacting to Angelo Bronte capture mission it would be nice

    • @themadtitan7603
      @themadtitan7603 Před rokem +1

      Yeah, they skipped over the part where they planned and raided his manor so it seemed like they just suddenly captured him.

  • @sauceman2885
    @sauceman2885 Před rokem +1

    I love this guy, I feel there are even more scenes from this game he could comment on

  • @nightlyrowentree6047
    @nightlyrowentree6047 Před rokem

    This was amazing hearing his perspective on rd2 was awesome

  • @futurestoryteller
    @futurestoryteller Před rokem +3

    Fascinating idea. The person who came up with this deserves a promotion, give them a pay raise, or something

    • @romanoonamor7690
      @romanoonamor7690 Před rokem +1

      No he doesn't. And this criminal doesn't deserve a job either. Or a prison job, eventually

    • @futurestoryteller
      @futurestoryteller Před rokem

      @@romanoonamor7690 You just assume the person who came up with it is a man, just like you assume criminals can't be reformed. How cliche

    • @pascalg16
      @pascalg16 Před rokem

      @@futurestoryteller Reformed? He wasn't a theif who stole bread. He was a mafia boss. And people in the comments admire him, I don't think they care about him being reformed.
      And you really used the misgender card?

    • @pascalg16
      @pascalg16 Před rokem

      @@futurestoryteller Also you're ignoring the homophobia in the mafia? Never mention the criminal activities obviously.

    • @futurestoryteller
      @futurestoryteller Před rokem

      @@pascalg16 You need to grow tf up

  • @zombiehalo9588
    @zombiehalo9588 Před rokem +5

    My brother is watching Yellowstone and yeah it's wild also this game is one of my favorite games

  • @Loto76
    @Loto76 Před rokem +2

    Imagine this guy was your grandpa sitting on the couch watching you play and adding this epic commentary.

  • @Lucas-gw6gm
    @Lucas-gw6gm Před měsícem

    Hey Jet, I’ve been watching your content for a lil while now and I’ve played Twd like 3 times now,there will be more downs then ups but the ups are pretty great. Just wanted to let you know that we are here for emotional support and wanna let you know I’m here for you and your fans are here for you.this game is really taxing on whoever plays it mentally and puts a different perspective on how a game could be so dark and so good at the same time just hope it doesn’t put a bad taste in your mouth (love your content don’t stop or I’ll come to your house)

  • @lokisinjuggler
    @lokisinjuggler Před měsícem +4

    That’s how I woulda did it

  • @canyonmonkey2537
    @canyonmonkey2537 Před rokem +6

    I was in a major 1% motorcycle club. I got out.
    I hit a very low point in life. In this period I played red dead 2. The storyline spike to me. Great game

  • @thejumpmaster314
    @thejumpmaster314 Před 4 měsíci +1

    those cowboys are bold is the best description of the original van der linde gang.Even bill who gets a lot of shit for being an idiot is as brave as it gets,especially in the swap gunfight

  • @Asstolfo96
    @Asstolfo96 Před 10 měsíci +2

    For the train robbery, they knew who the train belonged to and that it was likely worth robbing because they stole plans from a rival gang that was planning the robbery for months.

  • @jesseshelton9967
    @jesseshelton9967 Před rokem +5

    “You don’t get punched in the face that many times and keep fighting back” that’s bullshit 😂😂

  • @Jay-hc4lz
    @Jay-hc4lz Před měsícem +3

    Thats what i would've did

  • @yeasonwhat
    @yeasonwhat Před rokem

    Was not expecting this but I am glad it happened 👍

  • @LetsGetitBoah
    @LetsGetitBoah Před rokem

    The collaboration I never knew I needed. LOL.

  • @CarlosWr581
    @CarlosWr581 Před rokem +4

    Have him react to mafia 1 definitive edition