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Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom (1984). Fortune and Glory and Bugs.
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- čas přidán 6. 04. 2022
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Stam Fine looks at the sequel/prequel to Raiders of the Lost Ark. Indiana Jones (Harrison Ford) finds himself on a mission to recover some sacred stones in India with the help of his little buddy, Short Round (Ke Huy Quan), and Willie Scott (Kate Capshaw), a whiny nightclub singer. It's darker in tone, and Indy's less of a nice fella to be around. A darker adventure, to be sure. Also, do you like bugs?
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Stam is little confused with the Indy movie timeline...Temple of Doom = 1935, Raiders of the Lost Ark = 1936, Last Crusade = 1938.
Numbers not too good. Also, i have to go fix up a few future vids: The Hateful 19, David Fincher's Eight, and 1 000 000 004 Dalmatians. That last one makes actually much more sense now.
@@StamFine Damn, when you get to the Ocean's movies the real fun begins.
@@mikavirtanen7029 And Crystal Skull was 1807
I maintain that the "1935" is a "typo" (or an arbitrary last-minute decision by George Lucas); otherwise, why would Indy say in Raiders he "doesn't believe in magic, a lot of superstitious hocus-pocus" apparently after witnessing Mola Ram's (and the stones') powers. Plus there's a callback to the Arab swordsman scene near the end of the film :P
[edit - "WHY would Indy say ..."]
@@manewland1 you’re mostly correct about it being a last minute decision. Lucas suggested it to take place earlier so there wouldn’t be people asking about Marion or other stuff from Raiders. Spielberg agreed, but that does leave the “magic” in Raiders line unexplained… personally I think the gun callback is only a callback as far as the audience is concerned, and that’s just what Indy does when he’s faced with problems like that lol.
I wish Lucas and Spielberg would do darker movies again. Doom was One of my favorite movies growing up in the 80s.
I don't understand why this channel hasn't blown up already! Funny, concise videos one after the other! Keep up the good work!👍
While Willie is not my favorite of the Indiana Jones love interests, I actually appreciate her character quite a bit. She is NOT "adventure girl" and clearly demonstrates this throughout the entire movie. She's a coward, she can't do anything to really help out much, and she's totally out of her element. And that's great because she's a friggin' singer, dancer, and entertainer stuck in the middle of a jungle!! Bugs and psychopathic cultists aren't going to be interested in her singing and dancing, so she can't employ her only skills that way, and she's NOT a badass fighter or explorer! I think that's great, and it makes her different from the other two love interests. I'm a morbidly obese table top roleplaying game dude...drop me in the middle of a cultist infested jungle and I'd probably be just as useless, maybe even more so! Temple of Doom shows what happens when a normal person gets dropped into one of these over the top action adventures!
I know, right? We can't all be badass women.
She's certainly one of the most realistic characters and is unfairly judged for that.
She is retroactively refreshing, given the endless glut of omni-capable, "bad-ass" women in recent media.
Temple of Doom is my favorite of the 3 Indy sequels. I like that Indy is more of a mercenary, like Bond, who inspired the character in the first place. And I like that they showed him as a tuxedo-clad playboy, instead of just going for the tweed professor again. Steven and George later said they were disappointed with Temple of Doom, but it adds the most breadth to the character without spoiling his mystery. Then they did Last Crusade and completely destroyed the enigma, while making a slapstick comedy that doesn't fit with the previous two films. Holy Grail... pffft!
I agree. I hated how they turned Marcus Brody into a buffoon for LAST CRUSADE. TEMPLE OF DOOM rocks!
Great analysis. This one at least tries to be different. I hated Last crusade as well. its nothing but a slapstick comedy version of Raiders.
This should have tens of thousands of views! Top notch.
Stam Fine - A worthy successor to Clive James.
Maybe in terms of the accent: otherwise, not even if he had even one tenth of James's insight and wit - which he does not.
One thing that a lot of people miss, about this film, is that, like Raiders, it is a greatest hits of ideas from other films. The opening segments have some gags that were originally intended for Raiders, but not used, like the raft ride and the hiding behind the giant gong. The musical number invokes Berkley, but the pilotless airplane is a bit of an homage to Lost Horizon. The Thugee elements are an homage to the film version of Gunga Din and there are more Republic stunt scenes, such as the spiked room moving to crush them (also referenced in Star Wars) and the water bursting out the side of the mountain.
Not only is Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom is my all time favorite of the Indiana Jones movies. It’s also my all time favorite Steven Spielberg movie !!!
George Lucas' films are always 'personal projects'. Pissed off with the amount of money he had to pay for Lucasfilm, no doubt, the opening scrawl of Phantom Menace starts with 'The taxation of Federation routes is in doubt' or something like that. Very inspirational.
The irony is that the PG-13 rating had the reverse effect. The PG rating was being pushed in the early 80's with movies like Beastmaster including a topless female scene. PG-13 was supposed to cover that. However, in the interim, the MPAA has become more strict and the marketing departments of the distributors have become almost as scared of the G rating as they are of NC-17. A PG movie today would have been G rated in the 80's and a PG-13 is the new PG. As a result, we're once again in a place where there's nothing between it and an R rating.
Bonus points for mentioning Beastmaster/
In my head cannon, Willie left Indy after she found out he hooked up with Mata Hari. One eyed Willy's treasure was the one that got away for Indy, cause he wasn't a goonie. Also Short Round is Data's Grandfather, who moved to Maine after he found out that Indy had a son that happened to be Shia Lebuf. Also he thought Indy had finally lost it after the whole nuclear fridge, and alien talk.
Indy is a necrophile in your head cannon.
Obviously LeBoeuf had to be Indy's illegitimate son much like Kylo Ren. Neither of them match his DNA
I think you were brutally tough on this film, I think it's a fantastic Saturday morning serial type romp.
"Minor Miners" - absolutely one of the best puns I've ever heard.
Love this movie.
You sir, have achieved something truly special with this CZcams channel. Like Clive James before you, your capacity to appreciate pop culture in a very British way, whilst retaining that slight antipodean influence, is truly charming and entertaining in all the best possible ways.
Like Mr James, you have a unique gift for the quip and witticism, (genuinely making me lol on occasion) and an originality that is genuine and fresh. You have taken things we all know so well and made us see them with fresh eyes, injecting fun, sarcasm and child like joy into every topic, whilst still managing to sprinkle some thoughtful, level headed art-criticism throughout.
I’m deeply impressed by your channel and utterly charmed by it. And I’m sure that Clive James would appreciate that you (at least in some ways?) carry on the torch of his (an appropriate but too often overused word is coming👉) genius.
I love your warmth and good natured approach. I love your knowledge and insight. I was particularly charmed by your Star Trek and Planet of the Apes series’. I truly hope the word spreads and you become huge. You definitely deserve it. ✌️
Thanks!
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Temple of doom is my favorite!
i just noticed that the club in the opening is called "Club Obi Wan". That's so cool!
All these years, and I never knew Temple was a prequel,
I went and saw it as a boy and loved it. It didn’t seem too dark at all. It was an exciting adventure. Blockbusters at the time often had scary or gruesome bits (eg. Gremlins, Ghostbusters, Raiders, Young Sherlock Holmes...) and this didn’t seem any different.
It's my favorite
I Love this one just as much as Raiders of the lost ark and Indiana Jones and the last crusade.
It's one of my favorite movies of all time.
I love the Darker tone, The increased Violence and gross scenes!
If you were very young when the first Indy flick came out it would be difficult to have a proper experience or recollection of it
However if you were a wee bit older and LOVED Harrison Ford for this prequel/sequel then you would have been peak excited to see it in the cinema with your Mum and Dad You also would have thought Kate Capshaw was stunning and have been totally grossed out by the darker elements of the film
Even now the opening sequence with the poison totally reminds me of the first time time I saw the film as a young un' Short Round was brilliant and really connected with the kids who saw the film on its release
04:36 I always loved how the guy is still alive and conscious after his heart has been removed.
Strangely Temple is my favorite, and I think it's because of the darkness of it. It really had a feeling of trepidation. The humor in it is nicely balanced. Everybody craps on Willie but we all have to remember she's just a show girl who's never been an adventure and the reality is most of us would probably react the same as her. The only part that I had a problem with as a child was the inflatable raft escaping the plane, of course that becomes possible after nuking the fridge.
While I concede that raiders of the Lost is absolutely the best of all of them and absolutely the best adventure film of all time, there is something about Temple of Doom that I like. tend to watch that won the most. Last crusade which is most people's favorite was good and it tried to recapture raiders but at eighteen years old when I saw it in the theater twice, I just felt that it was trying too hard to make me laugh to the point where I didn't feel any kind of excitement on the adventure parts or the action scenes. Like I said the comedy and last crusade just seemed way too contrived.
As far as Kingdom of the Crystal skull, if you cut out the groundhog's, if you cut out nuking the fridge, if you cut out the Tarzan swing and the monkeys that somehow know who the good guys are, I accept it as a good indie adventure
But whenever I feel like watching a Indiana Jones somehow I always go back to Temple of Doom. Part of that could be that I've just seen raiders too many times.
I can watch the whole thing in my head
I love Temple and it is actually my favorite even though I recognize raiders is technically the best
I love this movie!
Always a treat. Thanks!
Great review
Short Round is a cool sidekick, it's got another great score by John Williams and er... that's about the only things I really liked about this film. Rewatched it ~20 years ago and was bitterly disappointed. Thankfully Last Crusade held up well.
I love temple of doom
I have never seen a film hit the ground running like this but unfortunately, it slows to crawl until we get to that awesome temple. Overall, this is an Indy film that doesn't quite measure up to it's predecessor but it's a damn good time at the movies. Also, this was last time Indy was a flawed character. From Last Crusade onward, he basically became a rugged, Mr. America, good natured everyman. Ugh. Lucas did as much to Han Solo after The Empire Strikes Back.
It's grown on me over the years.But I think Last Crusade is the better movie.I remember seeing TOD at the State Theatre in Sydney. They had the entire cinema decked out like the Caverns where the Thuggee Temple was including cobwebs everywhere. Talk about putting you in the picture 📸
Loved the start of this film, its certainly an attention grabber, much like that start of a Bond film
The year was 1935. Not 36. It says at the beginning of the movie
Four questions I've always had about this movie.
1. Why were the sacrifice's arms being held up above him?
2. Why was a thuggee wrapping their arms around the sacrifice's neck and holding the sacrifice's head back?
3. Why did Mola Ram stare at the sacrifice's chest for a few seconds after he held his hand over it?
4. Why was Mola Ram wriggling his hand when it was going into the sacrifice's chest?
If someone knows the answers to my questions, please reply and let me know. Thank you very much. 😊
All I remember from that movie was the girl scored one of the biggest movie directors of all time.
In some ways this is the best Indy film. Not for the subject matter. I mean some magic Hindu rocks aren't as significant to us as an ancient Biblical artifact. But in terms of adventure, spontaneous action and humour, this is the best of the 4. Oh and I forgot to mention FUN, maybe not joy but fun! In this movie nothing is planned. They just fall into a situation and it rolls from there, and I like that about this film. That and we get a break from Nazi henchmen. Plus in this movie, Harrison Ford is at his most manliest, which is a bonus since he's an action hero.
Way much better than the Boredom of shia LaBeouf and the Dire of disaster
Spielberg is one of the greatest horror film directors yet Temple of Doom
This movie is unreviewable for me as it’s so much a part of the fabric of my childhood. It would be like trying to review water. I don’t know why I love it but I know I do!😊
Nothing anyone can say will convince me this is NOT the best Indiana Jones movie. The other three get bogged down in Nazi or Commie melodrama... But this is just straight adventure from page 1 and it doesn't stop to let you take a breath.
This film is structured differently than any other Indy film. It builds to climax after climax after climax. Rather than the other films that space out the action between long scenes of calm. I'm not sure if that has anything to do with why it is my favourite Indy film.
I'll say that I grew up on the UK version, which was heavily edited to remove violence and gore. I first saw the full version when I first went to America and imagine that, had I seen that when I was a kid, I might well have been disturbed by it - growing up in the age of the 9 pm watershed.
Which Indy film do I most enjoy re-watching? Temple of Doom, then Raiders, then Last Crusade, and I don't enjoy re-watching Crystal Skull. I can scarcely believe you rated it higher than Temple of Doom.
This is my favorite IJ movie. Another culture's version of Satanists (essentially) are an inspired idea for the antagonists.
This one is not as bad as many think. They were at least trying something different. New setting in India, new villains in the Thugges. Willie scott might have been annoying, but she was realistic. And it shows that other cultures have legends, magic and history. It is very scary and Mola ram is an awesome villain.
At least it is original, unlike the last crusade which was a slapstick rehash of Raiders, that is for some reason forgiven for all its faults, unlike this ne, which is the second best in the franchise.
It's not that Indy is a dick, it's that since this movie is a prequel, they are literally showing us when and how Indy "became a hero".
When he says the "fortune and glory" line, it's not in jest, he means it. He was a profits driven opportunist. He is slowly becoming "the Indy" we already knew, and the process began with the slave children and he "emerged complete" when he broke the black sleep. More than one "spell was broken", the 2nd being the spell of selfish pursuits. And, btw, the "joyless-ness" you pick up on is partly emanating from his unfinished character.
When you realize this, you'll see the whole movie entirely different. I just think that Lucas/Spielberg really made this aspect just a tad too subtle.
Temple of Doom is so much better than the Abomination of Crystal Skull. The Overthetop Cartoony acting of the entire cast, actually swinging with CGI Monkeys, and don't forget CGI Ants!! ToD was the least of the 3, but don't put it below Crystal Skull.
CGI in an Indy film felt out of place.
@@germanicelt Amazing I said that a Year ago. Thanks for reminding me.
@@briandain8432 Unfortunately we are gonna get an Indy film under Disney very soon. I'll probably take my nephew to see it, but I'm not gettin my hopes up.
This is a great great film and better than the rehash of raiders …aka holy grails
I always find it weird how people think temple is "dark".
Other than maybe a minute or two in the middle section it's probably the zaniest, cartooniest and most "kiddy" movie in the series to me.
Willie isn't Rey Skywalker with all the super powers in the first movie, Luke still wasn't even a jedi until the third part of the trilogy. If Willie was Rey then Mola Ram would be toast
Film has moments, but fuck me, it’s all over the place in tone. I never hated Short Round, or Mola Ram, even Willie Scott since Capshaw was only doing what was asked of her. But I never connected to them or the story the way I did with the other two.
I’d say it has the exact same problems as the Star Wars prequels. Inconsistent tone, mean spirited humour (as opposed to dark humour, which still requires empathy) and some dumbass stereotypes that, while not maliciously racist, are still kinda racist.
I will say tho that Harrison is prime Harrison in this, and it still feels part of the series more than Crystal Skull.
I don't see any inconsistent tone. The last film had it's dark elements and yes, those darker elements are more conspicuous in this film but they aren't dwelled on long enough to say that it's out of place with the film. This is not like the prequels when everything is a rushed mess, there's actual craftsmanship here. We don't see anything like, let's say, Anakin brutally decapitating a dude and then comedic nonsense mere moments later. Nobody in this film is going through a serious dramatic arc, it's all fun.
Regarding the story itself, I will admit the the construction isn't on par with the previous film or it's successor. There's a major exposition dump and as I stated in the comments section, it's a bit of a slog after China but before the arrival in the temple. Once we get that temple, it's precisely what influenced films and that is the old 1930's serials. Also, I just love the gritty, bloody violence. Such a far cry from the computer generated fluff of today. This is arguably the purest 1930's style serial among the trilogy.
I think you can call the Trade Federation characters maliciously racist: according to Nute Gunray actor Silas Carson, Lucas had a Thai actor say Gunray's lines in English and then told Carson to mimic what he heard. That's not an accident. It's basically Mickey Rooney's performance in Breakfast at Tiffany's with some extra steps. Add that to the fact that the Trade Federation characters are using their amazing automation technology and sneaky, manipulative backroom deals to economically outpace the Republic and corrupt its political system, which are very modern incarnations of Yellow Peril fears that can't be traced back to the series's Flash Gordon inspiration...I think it's deliberate.
@@ricardocantoral7672 I guess what I mean is, that it goes from really goofy to really dark and violent. The other two go from humorous to violent but they feel complimentary to one another rather than contradictory. All a matter of tastes tho I guess
@@TheBeird I get what you are saying and I actually could have done without a few bits of the darker elements, but I don't think this film is guilty of the prequels' painfully inconsistent tone.
@@ricardocantoral7672 That’s fair enough dude
A little known fact that is most assuredly not true; Kate Capshaw lodged a formal Complaint with the Producers, for the portrayal of her character as always complaining. When her complaint was ignored, she complained to Steven Spielberg. Mr Spielberg changed his name and moved to Somalia. And so Kate complained to George Lucas. George made a clone of Steven, modified to love complaints. Kate and the Clone married 2 days later...
I liked it all..
Except Willie obviously..
I had never realized that literally NONE of the main characters really have a pleasant time in this. Shows how a cloud over the writer's mind is fantastic at torturing their characters. Indy really was more of an ass here, but a somewhat younger Doctor Jones really does fit well with that demeanor.
That said, Willie really was the most incredibly out-of-her-element character, possibly in the entire trilogy. Marion had a good gauge of what she was getting into with Indy and Elsa was... a Nazi femme fatale. Both of the latter were adroit in their adventures, although still refined enough to be very uncomfortable in portions.
Thank you for watching!
Do I like this movie? No. I love it!
I think you capture it quite well. I can watch Raiders over and over but this not so much..
Gordon Ramsey at the Pankot Palace.
Just think if George Lucas had been happier when he came up with this film
Thank god he wasn't. Temple of Doom is great.
I rate Temple of Doom above Raiders of the Lost Ark and Empire Strikes Back - In fact it's in my Top 5 All-Time with only Return of the Jedi, Zulu, Aliens and Star Wars: A New Hope ahead of it.
George Lucas was heavily involved in six of my top 10 movies with Willow being the 6th....I've never been a fan of Last Crusade and I definitely enjoy Kate Capshaw's performance way more than the horrible Alison Doody performance in that film.
In fact I'd go as far as to say that the villains in Last Crusade are the main reason I didn't like that film - They're just too bland and don't have the lasting effect as Toht, Belloq or Mola Ram who are all magnificent bastards!
I was also really annoyed that Marion wasn't in Last Crusade as that isn't a prequel but a sequel!
The fact that Indy was in so much danger in the temple only added to the tension and ultimately his heroic triumph of the shit he'd fallen into.
I thought I had seen this movie. Think I was wrong, but "Club Obi Wan"? Really?
0:38 Is that Matt Walsh riding an elephant?
Heh, The Obi Wan Club 🤣😂🤣
I agree with you. I think its too mean spirited.
What bothered me at the time with this movie was the violent intent between children. A fair amount of this (excepting Willie) I got into, but that kid trying to stick another kid stuff was off putting.
kate capshaw is awesome and funny
"Indy and company happen on a village in India where the kids have been, uhh, children-napped..."
LMAO
lol
So I hear they're making another Indiana Jones movie........When Indy was giving the 'I'm too old for this shit' speech in flippin Raiders, in 1980! \🙄/
I do sincerely hope it's good though, I still think with some reworking they coulda (mostly) rescued 'Crystal Skull'
(....At the least, getting rid of those god-awful CGI monkies! YEEESH!!) 🐒 🐒 🐒
The worst part was Willie, didn't care for the character, or the actress, who only got the part cuz she was dating the movie maker!
Concur with your ranking. While both this and KCS are highly flawed, at least the latter is more enjoyable to watch.
its one of my favorite movies! its so gross! no joy! i took nothing seriously when i watched it as a kid. it was a romp!!
Look at the bright side: Thanks to... whatever came after The Last Crusade, Temple of Doom is no longer the worst Indy film.
Least enjoyable to watch? Missing Fun and joy? You're nuts. V__V
Except for the human sacrifice scene and making Indy drink blood and get whipped, the movie was a whole lot of fun.
“Willie doesn’t endear herself to anyone......Kate Capshaw has only one fan.” Rinse. Repeat. Yawn, and “boohoo”. The main problem with ToD is the almost non existent plotting. It’s an extended pre title sequence and then a dinner scene a torture scene and then an extended chase. With the bare minimum of connective tissue. If it didn’t have a precocious little twerp and an annoying glamour girl, not to mention buckets of “eeeeew” the movie would have been trite as hell. I can’t argue with matters of taste surrounding aspects of the movie but many of those elements are what actually make it worth rewatching. It’s not as good as Last Crusade or Raiders. But it’s at least as good as Crystal Skull. A movie with arguably too much plot.
Imagine ranking this 4th🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣You haven't a clue bro!
Finally! Someone else who thinks that this is the worst Indi movie… so far 😅
It's just one long boring chase. With annoying sidekicks.
Sure, if you're dumb.
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It wasn't a bad film, but it was the worst of the 3 movies! There were only 3 Indiana Jones films and the last one has the Holy Grail, and i am unanimous about that!
I have to skip over the gross eating scene
I never skip it but it's really cringe.
You lost me at ranking this one fourth. Thumbs down to this review
Shortround was just annoying..... and grew up to be just as annoying as an adult
Totally agreed.