Understanding The Trinity? How Fr. Pine Helped this Convert w/ Ethan Dolan
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Ethan talks about how he met Fr. Pine and how he helped him convert.
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Bring on Dr Brant Pitre!
Ethan is going to become a tremendous apologist. Praise God.
Love Brant Pitre--he really knows his stuff and explains it well.
Always good to see these things can have good effects
Did I click on this video because it had cookies in the thumbnail? Yes.
Am I going to pay attention? Maybe
Your username kinda gives it away.
@chrismeloy1149 it's a family name!
This passage from Isaiah 42 from the Old Testament was quoted in Matthew 12:17-21 about Jesus the son of.. the Most High.
Who is the Creator of the Heavens, if Jesus is his holy son and servant, whom he support? Who called Jesus, who have taken and safeguard Jesus?
Isaiah 42:42 Look! My servant [Jesus The Son of The Most High], whom I.. support!
My CHOSEN ONE, whom I.. have approved!
I have put MY SPIRIT in HIM;
He will bring justice to the nations.
2 He will not cry out or raise his voice,
And he will not make his voice heard in the street
5 This is what the TRUE GOD, JEHOVAH says,
The Creator of the heavens and the Grand One who stretched them out (...)
6 “I, JEHOVAH, have called YOU in righteousness;
I HAVE TAKEN hold of YOUR HAND.
I WILL SAFEGUARD YOU and GIVE YOU as a covenant for the people
And as a light of the nations
Matthew 12: 18 “Look!.... My.... servant .. whom I... chose, my beloved, whom I have approved! I will put MY SPIRIT UPON HIM,
Bring on Dr Pitre
This was hilarious! 🤣
Ethan Dolan: “These Catholics, and their Mary talk….but wait….”
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Would love you to have on Jeff Durbin or Dr. James White.
Doubt they would come on.
@@Mkvine I'm sure they are really busy but never hurts to ask. And nowadays always could do it over Skype or zoom
Bring on Dr. Pitre!
Stop being so *Hollywood*. You cut this man off before he finished his sentence. Terrible!
Maybe this would help.
czcams.com/video/KQLfgaUoQCw/video.html
Skip to 2:50 for the punchline.
Thank you! This is one of my favorite videos!!
The Cappadocian Fathers weren't Thomists.
JUDGE: "The people here claim that a trinity exists. You are the conclusive Witness! Are you in a trinity, that is, in a close union with TWO other divine persons?"
JESUS: "No your honor, I'm not. I was never with two divine persons, I am in a close union WITH THE FATHER ONLY."
JUDGE: "No trinity exists. The case is dismissed".
There is NO DOUBT that the Father - who is with Jesus - IS A SPIRIT (see Jn. 4:23,24)! That one is the ONLY ONE SPIRIT who is with Jesus, either called "Holy Spirit" or "Holy Father" by Him. He is the SAME Spirit that before led Jesus in the desert and later also helped Him when speaking - in order to say the right words. In a sermon Jesus talks about the TWO blasphemies against Himself and against the Father, no third blasphemy exists because no third person exists. No mystery, the trinity is just a CONVENTIONAL doctrine issued by two conventions in the fourth century.
This might come as a surprise, but inventing courtroom dramas in your imagination where people state claims as definitive, doesn't actually remotely prove anything or make any of it more or less real.
@@Mic1904
The trinity is only a CONVENTIONAL doctrine, INVENTED by two CONVENTIONS of the fourth century. Jesus had NO IDEA of what a "triune God" is supposed to be and - four gospels long - states HE IS WITH THE FATHER ONLY. This directly tells you that of course NO TRIUNE God can exist because Jesus is NOT with TWO Persons.
You can see in the gospels that Jesus NEVER states to be BOTH 1. with the Father AND 2. the Holy Spirit (or 1. with the Father AND 2. the Comforter). In other words the "Holy Spirit" - who comes from the Father and dwells in Jesus - appears not to be WORTHY to be SEPARATELY MENTIONED by Jesus. This would never happen when He was a third divine Person who is DISTINCT from the Father, it would be offensive!!! Therefore the Holy Spirit must on the contrary be a Person who is NOT DISTINCT from the Father...somehow be "a part of the SAME Father".
This is why there's no need to separately mention the Holy Spirit: Jesus simply states to be WITH THE FATHER, inclusively of all his forms. That is what actually happens. Further, the gospels even disclose who is the "Holy Spirit": He is "God (the Father) who is A SPIRIT" (Jn. 4:23,24). As stated by Jesus, the Holy Spirit (God who is a spirit) comes from the Father. This means that in Mt. 28:19 the "Holy Spirit" is the "Father who is a spirit" whereas the "Father" is the Father who is NOT a spirit, i.e. He is the "normal" God, who is not here - nobody ever saw Him - and sends the "Holy Spirit" here. But the Holy Spirit is not a Person different from the Father.
If you need some more evidence that the trinity doctrine is false, there are also clear passages that are INCOMPATIBLE with it "But, of the day and the hour, no man knows, no, not the angels in heaven OR THE SON, but the FATHER ONLY knows." (Mt. 24:36). That verse clearly SPECIFIES that neither the Son nor the ALLEGED third divine person know the future. The trinity doctrine states the opposite: Son and third divine person are CO-OMNISCIENT. Well, Jesus is perfectly right whilst the trinity doctrine states falsehood. Also here you can see that NO THIRD DIVINE PERSON exists: " No man knows who the Son is, but the Father; and who the Father is, but the Son, and to whomsoever the Son will reveal Him.". A private matter between Father and Son, TWO divine Persons.
Much like inventing courtroom dramas in your imagination, putting words in block caps also doesn't actually make them true.
@@Mic1904
they are true even without block caps, just some help in understanding what I say
@@claudiozanella256 JUDGE: "Is what Claudio says true?"
JESUS: "No"
See how easy it is just to make your own version of Jesus say whatever you want and serve your own human ends?