Trying To Solve The Puzzle That Is The Toronto Maple Leafs | Tim and Sid
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- čas přidán 18. 02. 2020
- Tim and Sid reflect on the Maple Leafs 5-2 loss to the Penguins last night and discuss what needs to be done to fix the team.
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The Toronto Maple Leafs are the legitimate perfect example of: “Hard Work beats Talent, when Talent doesn’t Work Hard.” Just on the wrong side of things.
hustle beats talent when talent doesn't hustle.
True enough but the core 4 young players are only 22-23, they will figure it out, it's going to take time. Look how long it took Ovechkin to win the cup. Did you think it was going to be a fast and easy ride to the cup?
@@thefozzybear Tavares is 29 years old and is not playing like he wants it. Dude is literally the captain.
Washington had a ton of guys locked down long term, Matthews is there what four more years?
@@thefozzybear when penguins win their cup in 2009, crosby was 21, malkin 22, jordan staal was 20, and fleury is 23..
Its like a Rubik's cube. One side is looking really good then you turn it around and see the rest of the sides are all ef'd up.
crosby and nylander making the same a year. That hit me hard. Crazy.
travene1 they don’t though lol
travene1 bruh Crosby makes 9 and Nylander makes 7
Crosby signed that deal like 10+ years ago. Just to put things in perspective. When Crosby signed that deal it was the same percent of the cap at the time that McDavid's deal is today. Before people lose their marbles.
@@paulgilhuis1 who cares about salary, cap hit is the only relevant number to the team. Sid's using salary because he's being disingenuous about the whole thing.
@@paulgilhuis1 Nylanders cap hit is 6.9 dude xD but imagine the 11mil players compared to crosby, thats the joke.
Sid nailed it during his rant. The core group are not mature enough yet to make it to the next level. They'd rather play shinny with Justin Bieber.
Tavares should be, he's the captain and doesn't seem to be acting like it.
Age doesn’t matter. You want the cup because you want the cup... Kids wouldn’t be winning gold at the olympics if they didn’t know how to work like hell for something they’ve always dreamed of.
@@UrbanstarsK Yep, Crosby won his first cup at 21. You don't see McDavid with motivation issues like leaf players and yet he was on arguably more frustrating teams the last couple of years.
@@bumsuckaduck this was how the Oilers sounded before they got rid of some of the cancers from their room. Skill doesn't matter if it's in a pisspoor teammate.
@@bumsuckaduck true. But they had alot of older guys compared to sid. Look at That roster. We have to many youngsters on our team.
Sid nailed the coffin on this one. kids would rather have an extended summer break.
check all the swedes,Salming,Sundin,,the Sedins, all sitting in Sweden laughing at the NHL enjoying early homecomings,and now how many swedes do you have? They want to go home in April and party with the "SWEDISH KINGS WITH NO RINGS"
Would making the kids healthy scratches and then calling up some Marlies for a "Marley Night" for a couple of games tell them how to act?
@@ronevens8268 u drunk?
@@Cedisdead no Carl,telling it like it is,you guys made Salming and Sundin look like kings and they have nothing to show for ,other than Sundin not giving to a trade that would have helped the leafs. It's amazing how good these guys play in the world championships,compared to the NHL,the Sedins are the same ,fancy,but no rings,.It has been proven over the ears,the teams with the most Canadian born players ,that seem to have guts and the cup means more than anything ,are the winners each year,e'g last year ,St Louis,16 Canadian born players,so no Carl alcohol not involved ,just logic
He’s a moron and wrong
I wish someone loved me as much as Sid loves that God forsaken soundboard.
You want to be touched a lot... in public... like that?
@@aralornwolf3140 I mean I'm willing to try anything once. I'd make less annoying sounds, I'll tell you that much. :D
@@bozo8603 ,
You say that now, lol.
ha ha
Babcock said it for years. This team doesn't show the grit and fight in the alleys. Darcy tucker was 170lbs. soaking wet. Yet he would hit and scrap. Doug Gilmour the same thing.
Toronto needs a Gallagher or seven
100% Yamamoto is 155lbs soaking wet and he’s hitting and playing relentless on the forecheck. Matthews, marner and willy have no reason to play with no compete
Trevor Moore was the only digger with finesse who could score and dump chara in a check... lmaoo they traded him .. I understand for Clifford who is a banger but damnnnn shoulda picked Johnson or someone else
Babcock had that team working. They would play or they wouldn't get ice time and they would get called out! It might seem to some like he was hard on them but he was just a father looking to take his kids to the cup. When they were winning they like him, when they were losing they didnt like him. Babcock brought accountability!
When you fire such a person of leadership and cridisze him and piss all over him to hire an AHL coach you will obviously change the personality of the team. This is exactly what Dubis has done. Dubis and Babcock did not agree on things and Dubis should have worked with Babcock and maybe learned a thing or two about the NHL.
Instead he did the opposite of what Babcock wanted causing a bad relationship.
Now here we are with a team thats mediocre and has no heart. To top it off Dubis is making silly little deals while this team falls apart.
I guess this is what you can expect when you hire a very young GM and let him run the show.
@7 M.A. R.Z. 7 your points are small fry. That's the same kind of politics that go on with every team that's going through a building process. And by kissing babcocks ass to get more ice time you mean playing harder!?!?
When Pierre Maguire says you're the worst defense he's seen well, I guess that should tell you something is wrong with your team.
That should be the red wings not the Leafs
@@outboardsix The Red Wings just suck as a whole team.
Back end though has been riddled with injuries though. They've yet to play a full healthy consistent game. Riley out, then Muzzin out, then Ceci out, then Muzzin back in, bringing up Sandin and Liligren (less than 30 combined NHL games). Any given time in the last 2 months Leafs have has 2-3 of their 6 D men out or on IR. Then everything rest on Barrie and Holl as the more experienced, and we all know how Barrie has been this year. Hard to judge the defense of a team that hasn't really been healthy or consistent.
This video comes up everytime the leafs lose 2 in a row
exalt klyn nah it’s relevant. Leafs are a good story rn. Gonna get dummied in the first round with the talent they have 😂
point?
Welcome to the Toronto media... watch them come out of the next three games with 5 points and the next Tim & Sid video will be "Toronto is winning the Cup!"
Them getting paid before doing anything is the biggest problem in Toronto.
I feel like the conversation of leafs salaries is hard to listen to, because in the off-season that's what you talk about. When it comes to the season, you shouldn't give a damn who's making what, you have to come together as a group and want to win. For example, Tanev on Pittsburgh got a 6 year 3.5mil ish per year contract in the summer. Pens fans went crazy because he wasn't good and he won't put up points. But this year, he has been one of the hardest working guys on the team and has been playing great. A big reason why the pens are winning. So when I look at the pens team, I see some guys who are underpaid, and some guys who are overpaid, but every single player on the team has bought into the system and is willing to put in the work in order to have success. With the leafs team, I dont see any player who is willing to sacrifice themselves for the better of the team. And when you put these two teams against each other in crunch time, you'll get a result like last night.
Can we please talk about another Canadian team besides the leafs?
They want a long summer to spend their MONEY
That's about it !
Yep, no heart on this team. Fire Dubas now.
You know where the leafs went wrong. When they signed John Tavares. I’ve said it they minute they signed him it was unnecessary. They did need John Tavares and the leafs sure could use that 11 mill right now to really upgrade this team. The leafs had more than enough forwards to get the job done before Tavares and guess what the leafs made the playoffs before they signed Tavares..
Didn’t*
Obersturmfuehrer Tavares is a personality vacuum.
He shoulda taken less and the other 2 woulda taken less and allowed them to bring in more
Toronto Maple leafs are just uncoachable. Period.
Your right sid.....and they are no where tough enough,when is the last time they even threw a body check...this team is basically all skill and no drill
Six forwards who play defense are part of the problem .
skill???? figure skating
Ok what the hell just
Happened ....thanks tim&sid lets call em ...out sid..
I needed to hear this from you guys.
As individuals, they have talent.
As a team, they're still a work in progress.
Hahahaha Sid has a problem with Keefe calling out the team?! I guess he doesn't listen to his own content!
If he didn’t call out the team Sid would be mad at that instead. He will never be satisfied with the Leafs.
Sid is so correct!!! I agree with his rant 1000%!!!! He nailed it in all points!!
This is all about character, effort, and competitiveness.
Its the coach
Whats the excuse now toronto? I hear water boy is getting fired next
Well Mike, i guess inclusion and diversity doesn't work in a full contact sport.
@@bubbles3161 yea its mikes fault. Blame mike. Damn it mike
When’s your next coaching job, bud?
@@Brvce_Wayne a winning team. Not the losers for 52 years. But Toronto's paid me well. Thanx Toronto
Mike Babcock ok good luck with that..after the whole marner list situation i dont think you’re a commodity ... that and your outdated resume
"Stats are like Katy Perry, they show a lot, they don't show everything"
Tim, that line is gold. GOLD!
The best part about these struggles they are having though is now everybody can realize Michael Hutchinson wasn't the sole reason they were playing bad.
Shane Boegeman you had to be an idiot to think Hutchinson was the problem. Their team defense is absolute trash
Way to go Kappy, a goal, a fight...great game...Well done
guys, a good team game, strong 3rd...nice job Freddy...we all knew you were
better team...consistency, consistency...keep at it, all good moving
forward...eye on the prize...onto the playoffs again, unlike you know who,
lolllllllll...GO LEAFS GO
Andersen not lookin good at all right now, might need to sit him for a while...
How can you blame Andersen for the goals against Pittsburgh... Our defense let 4 of 5 goals go right through the crease for a tap in, they didn't pick up the guy behind them multiple times. I really hope you were being facetious.
I rarely agree with Sid but I have to one this one...they don't want it
Nope!,.... their all getting rich and that’s all that matters until they grow up!!!!
Jerrythecoo Who says they’ll ever grow up.
That is why THE CUP should be the windfall, not singular contracts. Sure... pay exceptional players a bit more but it's a team effort. The million dollar payouts only come after winning it all.
James EXACTLY. You don’t pay a NASCAR driver Daytona 500 money before he wins the race. They earn it when they win the race along with the trophy.
how do you trade for CHARACTER + HEART + WILL + PASSION ?
it's Dubas's fault. they keep blaming the players; but they're just playing according to their nature. Dubas --- you can't play hockey on a calculator. He doesn't really understand the game; picking up Clifford is a good move, but too late.
Its the fans fault
Nah tired of all the excuses. Its everyones fault including the players. The players dont just get a pass, plenty of less talented teams who compete at a higher level.
@@DrSJH159 because those teams are better constructed, and include players with heart and who play with passion.
I love sids rants
respect to marner for explaining exactly what is happening tho
I love when Sid goes nuts on a team, especially the Leafs 😂😂
But He’s right
Let's go pens will see you on Thursday Toronto I'm sure that you guys will be much better at home
Hahah we better be!! Good luck tomorrow also. Your Pens look great this year man!
Are you bringing Malkin this time?? YIKES
There is no excuse for how bad the Leafs have been defensively because of 3 words. THE WINNIPEG JETS
At the beginning of the season, everyone was writing off the Jets due to the losses on defense. No one could blame them when they lose Trouba, Myers, Chiarot and Buff. No one would argue that the Leafs had a better D core than the Jets to start the season.
To start the season, The Jets defense consisted of: Anthony Bitetto, Tucker Poolman, Neal Pionk, Dmitry Kulikov, Ville Heinola, Josh Morrissey and Carl Dahlstrom. Then something happened, By Dec. 10, the Jets were 19-10-2 with a D core that consisted of: Anthony Bitetto,Tucker Poolman, Neal Pionk, Luca Sbisa, Josh Morrissey and Nathan Beaulieu. Why did the Jets start winning? 2 reasons:
1) Hellebuyck got back to his Vezina form. Anderson has been playing great too, so those cancel each other out.
2) The Jets forwards bought into Maurice's defensive scheme. The top lines are helping out the D. Even Laine is back checking! You take away their injuries and they are giving Colorado a run for 3rd or better.
This is where the Leafs lack. Either Babcock or Keefe didn't/aren't instilling a defensive scheme to help the D, or the top forwards don't want to buy into that system. They look like they are playing shinny out there most nights instead of playing responsible hockey. The 2019 - 2020 Winnipeg Jets are a tested example that a defensively lacking team can still be competitive IF EVERYONE BUYS IN!!!
If someone told you at the beginning of the season, with 21 games remaining that the Blue Jackets would have more points than Toronto, would you have believed them? LOL
hockey is nuts xD
anybody have a good link where Katy Perry actually does show everything? i'm curious now.
I dont wonna sound like I am complaining but the Leafs arent tough enough and things need to be done fast but Barrie I did like him at first when Keefe came now Barrie is started to hit the roof for me hes mot showing any effort now but hes good at scoring at least but still we need a big defenceman that can do it all stop shots and hit lots and not those little hits we need a defenceman kinda like Muzzin maybe even probably better than can hit hard we need someone that can really get this team feeling confident and I am not saying Tavares and Keefe dont do that but we need a defenceman that can just get this team feeling really confidant and not feeling nervous about there own side and I do believe that what you guys are saying is very right what you are saying the ishues are the problem. The defence is nowheres where Sheldon Keefe wants it to be and Kyle for all we know could be fired just because this new player they got played with Matthews..
Really that's siriusly a joke Keefe is probably shaking his head right thinking what was Kyle and Shanahan thinking? Another forward and I am a huge leafs fan and I dont think it's a good idea for the Leafs to go to the playoffs this year unless somehow theres miracle on the way where the leafs go to the finals and win the cup which that wont happen this year and that's not a bad thing if they dont go to the playoffs this year because maybe next year this team is gonna look a whole lot different next and I mean alot different
Why is everyone so surprised with this bad stretch? The leafs’ #1 Dman is out and they’re forced to rely on an already weak Dcore. It’ll take some adjustments and some pretty big speed bumps before we get this truck rolling again
sad torontos number 1 dman is a 5th or 6th dman on any other team in the nhl
Those high paid forwards have to play defense. Every team in the Playoffs at this point, play a 5 man team defense on all areas on the ice.
These kids are young and we’re seeing the “
pain” that Babs mentioned when he was first hired..................... it takes time to mold talent,............ be nice if it was overnight,....... the Leafs have a lot to learn and pain to live with!.................... welcome to the NHL!!!!!
Yes buy in to the system! Take a look at the raptors young leafs
10 min thank you Sid! They dont want it like that.
Tim doesn't receive enough recognition for some of his takes. He was spot on this time.
So Sid has a problem with the fact Sheldon came out and told the press exactly what the problem was with the team last night instead of bullshitting his way out of it? Keefe did a non shouting version of Torts with his honesty about his team's problems, he's not wrong.
Tim and Sid you guy,s tell it the exact way it is '''NO BULLSHIT''. GOOD JOB GUYS!!!!!!!!!!!
I’d like a team with Muzzin’s attitude.
I agree with Keefe’s tone and language.
Hit them between the eyes, nothing else seems to be working.
This was a well delivered segment by Tim & Sid
beautiful haiku
Haha.
I had to google what Haiku was.
Thanks?
Great, another Leafs feature. I love watching "Tim & Sid & Leafs"
Is the eggos back in season again in toronto ?
Tim - “when the leafs lose its the real team - when they win it’s just a fluke “
What is the incentive to win? They all get paid either way win or lose. I said it last year, these kids will be kicked out of the playoffs or the playoff race and will spend the summer at a million dollar cottage enjoying life. Us Leaf fans will wait another year for a team we believe in. We were one or two players away from going deep into the playoffs but Dubas came in and blew this team up. I was shocked.
You could have the exact same convo about the Sharks over the last decade
Pens announcers said the individual efforts were there but the team concept isn’t there for them and at 60 games in thats not looking good.
You need gritty 3rd and 4th line players, shutdown defensive players, a borderline great goaltender to steal a game, win at all costs star players, and then you MIGHT win a cup. Its a good thing the hall of fame is in Toronto, at least the maple laff fans can see what a Stanley cup looks like.
I don’t think it’s just one thing, it’s not just the players or the coaches, or the management, the whole thing is a mess and we can point fingers at whatever we want but there isn’t one way to fix it.
Still haven't figured it out.
You are so right Sid
How do we make the players want it? Do you learn grit or teach grit? Hell, i think the fans want it more then the team? Am i wrong? I dont think its age totally. Im not hitting the panic button until after the game tonight(rematch). Depends how the leafs reacted to the A** kicking.
It’s a talented roster that is slightly underperforming in a really difficult conference. Idk why Dubas gets so much criticism; he’s done well.
LOL who would've thought that the best display of comedic timing would come from Burkie. OMG, actually made me gut laugh out loud at my desk.
Burke should've said, "Reminds me that John Lennon said that he had a better legacy whether with the Beatles or not than what Jesus and his disciples had."
This was three days before the David Ayres' game. Foreshadowing...
As i said it when Keefe took over, the Leafs are officially a NHL farm team. Leafs have off ice chemistry problems and on ice chemistry problems. Andersen isn't himself never was as great as Tampa and Bostons goalies. Defence has always been a problem, JT isn't was he was when with the NYI's. Nobody hits, the power play is suffering. Marner is great but he's 6' 175 lbs, Matthews is playing well, well . . . Babcock was right, he knew what had to be done to make the Leafs win. Basic fundamentals needed to be established and we are now seeing it first hand. The Leafs have been on a down slide and i think they will miss the playoffs. I hope i'm wrong ! Keefe puts out JT Matthews Marner 30 million on the ice and they can't get it done. Leafs have a problem from top to bottom. This team isn't what the media made it out to be. The huge contracts destroyed the chemistry, it's a team sport. Grinders win games and the Leafs have overpaid superstars. Trades need to made in the off season because the Leafs do not have a contender. NHL is a contact sport and fans pay good money to see the big hits and yes the fights. Go Leafs Go !
Bubbles Good comments
3 days after your show, the Leafs got beat by the Zamboni driver in goal for the Canes in front of their fans. Good luck with your plan to fix this team.
BTW, Babcock is vindicated.
when your"super star" player doesn't elevate the play of your team then he is really a superstar player?
Sit these over paid clowns for 1-3 games each, and embarrass them in the media by calling them quitters. Maybe they’ll get the message
Steve Simmons is rifling through his file folder of boiler plate "fire the GM, fire the President, trade this guy..and that guy" articles he's been writing for 35 years as if it's ever worked.
Recently watched the Wendel Clarke fight against Mcsorely. The Leafs still haven’t figured out you need grit and toughness to win. It’s very simple. Look at the Cup winners over the last 10 years. They all have one thing in common.
we're basically the guinea pig of hockey theory for the entire league. this either works or no one builds a lightweight skilled speed team with no defence for the next 20 years.
Lol true.
Really great watching this in 2024.
You can't solve the puzzle when the GM eats the pieces.
Sid hit it on the head. They don't compete when it gets hard. Their highest paid players don't play a 200 foot game and float far too often. There's no competitive fire on this team and no interest in working hard in the defensive zone to keep the puck out of the net. Not sure how they fix it with all the contracts they are locked into.
Ok sis said they aren’t making the playoffs - can’t wait until they make it
Sid is 100% correct
I need to hear a guarantee from the medical staff in the Leafs organization to say that they are all healthy and not suffering from the flu at all before I will condemn them right now. I had that flu and felt like I could barely get out of bed, never mind trying to skate.
The one time I agree with Sid he’s right
The Leafs are an enigmatic mystery puzzle
Wrapped in a neat package of bad defensive zone Coverage
He doesn't seem like he's handling the pressure right now very well. This could be the 18 wheeler right off the cliff again
They got paid before they played. Sidney Crosby has heart and 3 cups and Alex Ovechkin probably has 2 hearts and 50 goals every season. Thats the problem
The Toronto stores and shopping is priority number one for these kids I swear
I hope that the Toronto Mapple Leafs go far.
After last nights game leafs fans are watching raptors play only
Been doing that for the last two months 👍
It's simple, the best players on this team are teenagers. I'm 23 and just starting to prefer living with a serious mindset and take care of my work, take care of myself care about anything else than getting wasted and try to be acknowledged by strangers in nightclubs, and I don't have 11 million to spend on that. These guys will only start to care in 5 years minimum. Crosby and Toews are the greatest of this generation because they started to take this seriously when they were young.
they could lose a high end player in order to acquire a stanley cup goalie, and keep andersen as backup, he has played periods of stanley cup goal, but not consistent enough for the full time job, In My Opinion!
Can't see paying John Tavares the money he is getting payed, gives up the puck almost every time you but pressure on him,minus 30 for career.
Definitely overpaid for what they get out of him. Never throws a check, he seems to receive a lot of them though. What’s sad is nobody on the team seems to acknowledge that their captain is taking a beating. No retaliation what so ever. This is by far the softest leaf team in franchise history. This does not win Stanley cups
I'm not sure if they eventually get there because I'm not watching the second half but; after 10 minutes of a video titled "Trying to solve the Puzzle that is the Toronto Maple Leafs" they haven't even attempted to diagnose a problem or present a solution.. there were lots of sound effects and pointless posturing but NO hockey analysis.
The Leafs aren't a puzzle they are more like a pop-up book; very easy to read. The Leafs problem is that they were constructed with a significant flaw that is now impossible to fix. They spent all of their money on offense and play a style of hockey that results in them giving up the 7th most shots against per game. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize that if you give up a lot of shots and have a lack of talent of defense your are going to give up far too many goals to ever produce consistent results in the regular season or post season regardless of how many 40 goal scorers you have. The Tavares money should have been spent on two significant pieces for two significant pieces on the back end.
I only watched the last 2 mins of the game last night, they looked disorganized and didn’t care. Very sloppy with several give always and this was only the last couple of minutes, I can’t imagine how the rest of the game was. But Tim’s intro said enough. Wow.
Your lucky you didn't waste your time.. other than the last two minutes.. They didn't play... They floated around as is the usual lately.. they don't care!!!
Shawn 9 Yeah, they didn’t look like they had anything on the line and no motivation. I have seen teams loosing and are still playing hard at the end. What gets me by lately with the leafs is watching old highlights of Sundin just blasting the puck in the to turn the game around. The current leafs don’t have anyone that can provide any leadership on or off the ice.
Toronto needs gritty forwards that can play at both ends of the ice. Scoring lots of goals isn't as impressive as suffocating an opponents offense.
I think they get scored on first. They get down 1 or 2 goals and they say screw it its over. Weak defence is deflating the forwards. They either play defence together as a team and grind and get mad and tough or there done. Period. Ps SID. The reason Sheldon keefe is talking like that is because its already proven its not the coach so he can say what he wants and there will be no consequence. Sheldon is right. Babcock was making me nervous but he wasnt wrong in the way he wanted the team to play. Play hard and responcible. Thats it.
Malkin has more Points Per Game than any other active player versus the Leafs and he didn't even play. Leafs still got smoked!
eglsfly. Crosby was all they needed. He totally owned that game. Dominated.
Is it safe to say yet that Dubas is single handedly destroying this team ? Threw everyone outrageous contracts and then the effort stopped instantly. Will not address the defense situation. No grit. Anyone starting to see that Babcock might not have been that crazy after all ? Dubas vision of a perfect team clearly isn't it. I wonder what this team would look like right now if Lou was still GM. It sure as hell wouldn't be this.
Maybe I'm just over reacting, but I am so fed up with this team. I've honestly had it. I'm losing sleep over this team. The panic button is hit, and it's been hit hard
Lou wasn't leading this team any better. He never traded for defense, he was prepared for going forward heavy. He just left the contract work to the next guy.
Dubas DID try to address the defense. Ceci and Barrie to start the season? He did make the attempt.
@@cousinpatsey2471 I can almost guarantee though Lou wouldn't have gave out those insane contracts.
Sure Dubas added Barrie and Cici but Barrie is an extremely offensive defenseman and was known not to be the strongest in his own zone. Why the hell do you need that when the offense is already so strong on this team and in there iown zone is were the problems are. Not only that but Kadri was the one who was traded to get him, who's exactly the type of player the Leafs need. And to top it all off Barries turning out to be a flop while Kadri was having a great season up until he got injured.
And Cici. Dont even get me started on Cici. All Dudas did with that trade is replace a bad defenseman with a brutal contract for an even worse defenseman with an equally as bad cap hit.
Both trades didnt exactly make much sense
@@kakarotblake For as much as everyone loves to say "Kadri is great! He's what the Leafs needed!", you'd think everyone would remember how often Kadri got himself in penalty and suspension trouble for his dumbass hits. Grit is great when it's actually on the ice; there's a good argument he cost them on of the series against the Bruins when he got suspended for a needless hit.
Barrie was brought in because he fit the style: passes well, can run a powerplay, gets up ice fast. Cici, well, idk what they saw in him. They knew it unlocked a contract after this season though (which the other one wouldn't have). And, again, that doesn't dispute the point: They did make an effort to change the defense. It might not have worked out as they had hoped it would but you can't say they didn't do anything about it. The fact is defense isn't something that's only done by defensemen, it's a full five man effort, which is something Babcock couldn't get them to do (and Keefe is only sporadically getting them to do). Look at the Penguins: defense doesn't look spectacular, but it plays like it most nights.
And remember: Lou made the Kovalchuck contract. His deals wouldn't have been much better if at all.
@@cousinpatsey2471 all valid points. Like I said I may have been overreacting. The frustration of this team is just getting the better of me.
Last night was a textbook game, if only they would play a full 60 minutes like that on a regular basis.
Lou also signed Zaitzev to that ridiculous contract. My memory on Lou seems to be a little cloudy lol
When your overpaid captain and other overpaid assistant captain don’t say jacks**t during these tough stretches. I’m pretty sure you have a big problem. No balls or grit those two.
I think Crosby having a 4 point night had something to do with it.
Tim, Sid do you read these?
Just look at how much the number one line on the planet makes compared to the leafs number one line. It is about those playing for themselves and those playing for each other.
Vwasil Kuzmytzmi. What line would that be? There are alot of great lines in the league.
Yes there are but the number one line is Past, Bergy and Marchand. Six more points tonight.
Vwasil Kuzmytzmi. Yes they have the most points. Thats doesn't make them the best line. Just highest scoring. That stat is deceiving.
No one on Boston is as good as Kucherov. I don't care how many points they have. The best line in the NHL plays in Tampa. Not Boston.
You don't have to agree, it's ok. It's hockey fan talk and it's all some fans opinion. I watched the Oiler game last night and their announcers called them the best line in hockey. All sports media when talking their pregame before playing the B's, refer to them as the best line in hockey. Last year it was them, Colorado and Tampa in the discussion. The year before it was The B's. Kucherov is one third of a line.
Vwasil Kuzmytzmi. We dont have to agree. Just my opinion. Tampa has the greatest goal differential in hockey due to their focus on defense. Bostons line has Tampas by only 20 pts. We can update this thread after the next 20 games.👍
Every game is a season in itself.
Trouble on my mind I got trouble on my mind
Toronto IMO should’ve never got Tavares. You didn’t need him leaf fans. That money could’ve gotten you a D and potentially a depth forward.
Agreed. He doesnt make enough plays or passes for his worth. When is the last time he dominated a game? Trade him!!!!
Yeahhh.....that kind of halted growth ;/
Toronto maple laffs have always been an overrated, overhyped, team.
I agree with sid 1000% . These kids wayyyy overpaid . You know who wins games ? Whoever wants it more . They are like spoiled children. Trade 1 or 2 children for men that want it more !
I don’t want to hear any Toronto sports fan mention the raptors and leafs in the same breath. One team wants all the smoke and rings in the room and the other is waiting for summer. Smh
Maybe throw them a couple of million dollars more to entice them to play " at a higher level". I mean it isn't like they are the highest paid in the league. Who could be expected to put out a 60 minute effort for a measly 7 to 13 million dollars.
The Leafs have been embarrassed by Florida in all of their match-ups this season, and they simply can not afford to lose to them next Thursday. I believe their playoff hopes are already slim-to-none, but a loss against the Panthers on Thursday will definitely put the final nail in the coffin. This Leafs team is not capable of playing the consistently solid hockey it would take to charge up the standings and re-claim a playoff spot if they once again fail to show up against a team like Florida that is already edging them out in a race for the postseason.