that's code for steroids btw. if you ever hear a celebrity say that's how they got in shape, i guarantee they used gear. rice, chicken and broccoli doesn't work like that. it's fucking ridiculous.
You’re missing one huge thing and thats that the UFC doesn’t have to disclose steroid failures anymore. Why was Jon out exactly 3 years? Why is Khamzat not fighting for an entire year??
@@JasTheKariol He fought in February bro. a little over 4 months from now, or 3 months from your comment. What you're pushing doesn't make sense at all
These guys have insane cardio while training multiple times a day, cutting tons of weight and losing very little muscle mass, but somehow they're supposed to be natural.
Me and my father are able to do that naturally, but I also noticed that it's extremely rare for everyone else to do the same. For us that is normal behavior for an athlete (keep in mind it took many years to achieve this point. Im sure with the drugs these cheaters are taking helps them reach that point quickly)
We cut weight in high school wrestling, professional MMA fighters are going to cut weight even better. Conor is literally known for his shit cardio and he’s the face of the company, y’all are just couch potatoes that are jealous.
None of what you mentioned is unnatural. The amount of people saying that exercising daily at a high pace is "impossible naturally" let's me know how lazy people are nowadays in the U.S. I would love to see them try to live with the Hazda ( or Hadza) tribe in Africa and see what they are capable of without eating the garbage we have for food in the U.S. I feel because someone is incapable of doing something they often say the one who does it is cheating. Sore loser mentality, they have.
The UFC pays USADA. Of course there is a conflict of interest. In the beginning they took down a lot of UFC stars, and then all of a sudden they took a back seat for a few years, and now they only bust mid/low tier fighters. Or people they don't really see a future in. They don't bust superstars anymore. USADA is there so the casuals can sleep at night.
Very true. Follow the money, you think Dana would ever let himself get embarrassed by having any main card fighter pop positive? Then there's the millions of dollars from betting and gambling.
Explains why Jon Jones was given every unnecessary benefit of the doubt by USADA. He's one of the greatest fighters and puts butts in seats, for him to keep testing positive for steroids, getting suspended and stripped was a terrible look. For two scheduled fights in a row there was the pulsing picogram situation which was honestly just USADA pulling the wool over the eyes of fans as Turinabol (the drug he kept testing positive for) doesn't pulse yet USADA very conveniently changed their testing so now they won't flag anyone who has less than 100/mg of an illegal substance inside them, even though its almost certain said fighter was caught with illegal substances toward the end of their steroid cycle. Call me a conspiracy theorist, but its all a bit too sus and convenient for Jones and the UFC.
Merab Dvallishvilli is a UFC fighter that I beleive is juicing. In his latest fight, he threw over 400 strikes and attempted 50 takedowns over 5 rounds without ever slowing down
I know it's probably a cope but I can't see any other way you can shoot that many takedowns and not literally have a lung give out. Apart from land a fluke knee what was Yan even supposed to do
He has the cardio of a teenager, and I guarantee the lifestyle of no drinking and no smoking has made his cardio stay the same/if not get better with age
People think USADA can get you anytime anywhere. Not true at all. You can miss 2/3 randoms per year, and there are a million excuses fighters can use to miss. USADA isn't a parole officer, these fighters still have rights and freedoms.
@@nikoc8968 The same as it would be without it. Entertainment, competition. I don't think views would go down even a little bit if they allowed all PEDS, in fact I think viewership would go up. The problem is it would be more dangerous for the fighters. Champions are already on them, so why make them against the rules?
@@kylerBD ...the "competition" aspect is meant to see whos the best, not who uses the most drugs...are you a child, dude? you make them "against the rules" because theyre cheating...are you actually serious right now?
@@nikoc8968 Yeah I'm dead serious. The competition aspect is already not fair. Usada turning a blind eye, ufc possibly paying them off, designer steroids, which are likely what jon jones takes, I say that with confidence because for a few of his fights he literally has female testosterone levels, something which is completely impossible for an athlete like him, which is caused by suppressing your natural testosterone production via steroids. Also another thing I can quickly list off, bio-identical steroids, such as testosterone and human growth hormone. Both of which levels vary greatly person to person and are very hard to test for. With all these massive and near impossible problems to fix, how can you possibly think testing is worth it? The only possible way to have a completely steroid free sport would be to have a machine that can read your brain and directly scan it for lying, which would have to be 100% accurate. Also, 2 final points The people who physically respond extremely well to steroids are the same people who would dominate in a completely natural sport. People who are naturally very muscular or have great endurance naturally are the same people who respond very well to steroids, giving them an even greater effect from using them. There are clear signs the top 5s in all the male divisions are juicing, but somehow, whichever way that may be they are getting away with it. So, what the fuck is the point in continuing to ban them? The only reason would be to continue this lie to lawmakers and politicians that this brutal sport is fair as it can be.
If anyone even paid attention to what Dc said about Jones, would come to this conclusion. "He got Caught cheating" as if cheating wasn't an issue as much as getting caught is.
cause DC had testosterone levels for their fight which were literally not even close to being achievable with a lot of steroids lmao DC basically just said Jon is dumb for getting caught lol because its so fucking easy
@@failnation3472 Yeah and plus when Dana spoke to him about it, DC said he'd sign a waiver and fight him anyway. Which makes me think he's on it too to not care. If someone I was fighting got caught for cheating and i was told about it. I'd say fuck that. Get that cheat away from me and let me fight someone clean. (i could how ever be looking too much into it and he could have just been that confident in his ability)
@@jake360flip fr lol didnt think like that but makes sense DC was 1000% on gear his entire career lmao he was just way smarter with it and knew how to get away with it
Also gotta remember when dc mentioned it’s so easy to get away with it. Dc says there are things you can take up to the testing day and you’ll piss clean.
Amazing video man. Only thing I thought should be pointed out is that every fighter gets three whereabouts violations, every year. Making it even easier to continuously get away with it.
@@aqnzel he mentioned how fighters get three whereabouts violations. I didn’t hear anything about it being per year. I honestly could have missed it. Anyways hope you have a great weekend.
now imagine organizations like the nfl and nba that have testing systems that give you 100x the leeway that usada does. its no mystery why so few ppl pop
I love volkanovski as a fellow australian but his athletic burst coming randomly at his old age and he's getting better is just freaky if he's natural, as well as how he went to thailand for makchachev
Yeah I would like to believe that Volk is clean but this is literally the only sport on earth where I have seen athletes become faster and stronger in their mid-thirties. That's just so suspicious.
If you think diaz was on steroids,you probably think he created his own company to contaminate his products with steroids and blame it on that if he gets caught😂He aint that smart
honestly I believe everyone is because they all know all of their opponents are and UFC does not want to lose out on money anymore so no good fighter will ever test positive again only unknown ones lol its so obvious and HGH is like 6 hours in your system lol
William Knight is the most obvious example imo Btw Yoel Romero didn't see a penny of those millions because the "company" didnt exist. It was a front company that Yoel probably owned just for that scenario to escape punishment
@@mockdr I'm not a reporter or anything, but I call it as I see it. I can't see my original comment for some reason, but here's the details as I understand them. In 2016, Yoel tested positive for ibutamoren. He sued a supplement company named Goldstar Performance products over an alleged tainted supplement for $27 mil and won a default judgment, as the company never showed up to court. For a number that huge, not showing up is corporate suicide, especially since Goldstar wasn't a big company at all. (for the real freaks out there, the case name is YOEL ROMERO v. GOLD STAR DISTRIBUTION, LLC, in New Jersey, last updated in 2021) They used to have a website, but that's not even around anymore. There was no way to buy products from a company that sells supplements. The pages all looped into one another. I actually had a web designer friend look at the code of the website and there was basically no way for the site to take your money. The number to contact them connected to another pharmacy entirely. You can't dig it up on the Internet Wayback machine either. Look at their social media. Really look, not just scan over. Look at the dates. It’s all as shallow as a kiddy pool and never posts or gets engagement after 2018. The timeline is very telling too. He fought with Chris Weidman and broke an orbital bone in his face on November 12th, 2016. He tested positive for ibutamoren, which makes you produce more Human Growth Hormone than normal. Derek from More Plates More Dates says this drug failure makes no sense because fighters have to cut weight and Ibutamoren makes you retain water. I contest that the substance makes sense if he was between fights and was trying to recover a broken orbital in a faster than human timeline so he can get back to training to prepare for his next fight in July 2017. Since the lawsuit, the settlement has been reduced by over half in an appeal to a higher court. I'm too tired to read the 50 odd pages of court proceedings to figure out exactly how much and I'm reading conflicting things across news sites. A reasonable person might imagine his management set up a fake company in advance of him testing positive for anything and then they put the plan into action when he popped. No hard sources and basically no coverage, but it is SUPER sus the whole way through.
Microdosing epo becomes even trickier as most of the testing is done via the biopassport (so standard value determined for each athlete) and micro dosing will mean you are less likely to throw up a flag on that specific testing regime. There us a fantastic amount of literature on this
They don't even use the bio passport, they just use piss tests. they do other testing if a red flag appears. Fighters using EPO don't have to worry at all
fr lmao Islam is juiced as fuck lmao and cheated with an IV against Volk lol Ali tweeted it and the UFC does nothing against their Dagestani cash cows lmaoo same as Gaybender
They do still care. Its just a top fighter hasn't popped in a long time. The last time Jones popped was back in 2019 for 'pulsing picograms' which was heavily downplayed by the UFC and USADA. TJ Dillashaw popping for EPO caused unanimous outrage among fans. A lot of fans cared when Adesanya had gyno. A top fighter needs to pop for the fans to spring into action and condemn the cheater.
@@failnation3472Poirier definitely on the sauce. Impossible to throw so many combos and not gas out with that piss poor footwork. Not to mention his torso expands more and more each fight
@@Pandemomium4LifeUSADA never did anything Lance Armstrong passed 216 USADA tests while being on EPO and HGH the entire time admitted it 10 years later and they had to go to the 17th place to find the first cycler that wasnt juiced. Cant believe yall on YOutube think USADA ever did anything when HGH and EPO stay in your system for only 24 to 48 hours but the effects last a month lol. Every top fighter rn and in history is and was on steroids/PEDS especially GSP ran away as soon drug testing came in and always looked juiced and had an HGH gut even fucking Sean O Malley is on PEDS you dont have to look like Izzy or Usman lol O Malley already popped twice and was 2 years off because of that, USADA has their people in every country.. Do yall really think some guy in Dagestan or Russia actually tests these guys they just tip him a few thousands and he takes anothers mans piss lol also the UFC never would let a draw/star test positive for soooo many years now look at Izzy and fucking Usman
my favorite thing about people arguing back and forth is that they have no idea what steroids are like, and how easily you can cycle around testing, the only ones who get caught are the ones who go overboard like jones, but best believe nothing changed once he got caught other than he got better at hiding it
mannn i been doing boxing for a year and im not training seriously. i hurt my hand 2 times resulted me not being able to train for a month. so many times i couldnt go to training cuz my ribs were hurting like shit. so there is no way these dudes train like this and dont get injured every 2 minutes.
The human body is not designed to fight like that for so many times in years, so I assumed from the start there might be some substances involved. Nevertheless, that does not take the talent of those fighters. Why is this question important when looking at athletes and celebrities? People need to know the reality to set up their expectations when working for their goals. I am a 180 lbs person who works out daily and until recently I never found satisfaction in my training and I had moments when I quit bcs I did not see the progress as I had expected. After learning that these guys dedicate their whole lives without doing much else besides and have teams that deal on their workout, nutrition + alleged substances they take, I have learned to enjoy working out again. Very glad that people are starting to dissect what is shown to them. There is always more than it meets the eye
Mark Hunt stopped fighting because absorbing roided up punches will result in more brain damage, especially since a roided up body will be capable of taking more hits despite the brain staying just as vulnerable to constant impacts.
One of the ways to avert many of these issues is to test for irregularities in cellular and organ/ system functions over a prolonged period of time, in which any non-explainable deviation (eg sudden increase in muscle growth or oxygen carrying capacity, etc) would raise flags for further testing/ scrutiny. If that makes sense. Downsides to this would obviously be that this process is much more complicated and the pathological as well as physiological analysis is much more intensive compared to a simple blood/urine/serum antigenic/ chemical test. Also, figuring out a set of standardised criteria to track over a prolonged period will also require some thought.
Always knows that PED's are everywhere in sports. Since I was a kid. If you do sports, you should be able to put 2+2 together. At the top level of any sport everyone's on rocket fuel.
Anybody whos ever been around high level competitors or amateurs who are training to be proffessionals in any physically demanding sport can tell you that being on steroids is the rule, not the exception. They often start them off as young as 16 with the premise that they re giving them supplements/vitamins and once they re pro they dont care anymore cause they know everyone does it. The companies making the steroids are far ahead of the ones testing because they have to catch up to the new methods they thought of to avoid detection.
which means corrupt countries like russia wont test you for real you just give the guy that should test you a good amount of money and he tells them your clean...
People act like nate diaz has a crystal ball or some shit. The reason why nate said that is because conor called him out for using steroids and for his training partners failing drug tests. So nate's dumb ass was like "everybody is on steroids" basically admitting to using steroids
The thing is no matter the system you put in place there are workarounds like one championships hydration test where it is so easy to beat it is unreal and you could literally be on death's door and you could still look like you are the most hydrated man in existence there are always ways to get around the systems they put in place.
Of course man it's practically impossible to perform in that level without any "vitamins", same goes for the olympics, even when all the russians were on gear they didn't beat everyone, that means everyone is using something or another.
Nah people can achieve it naturally, its just extremely rare. I've been blessed with these genetics but only recently have I decided to finally do something with them.
High school football players stay juiced up. There is a school on Florida called Boone. They always won when I was in school. They looked like grown men playing highschoolers. They were jacked, big, full beards and just swole as hell. Of course very explosive and never tired. They won so damn much it was crazy.
I've always wondered if a fighter pops for roids is the decision to let them fight still the ufcs or is it like illegal or something since they have usada testing the fighters, also is it legally necessary to have drug testing from a third party or does the ufc just use usada for other reasons
Funny how you have Pacquiao on your profile but there isn't a single video on him haha Great channel though, looks like this will grow to 100k subscribers, let's gooooo!
It’s just like in gaming, the developers hire these anti-cheat companies similar to what usada is to the ufc, but as long as it’s something competitive people will always find a way to cheat no matter what
Didn't Canelo tested positive for epo, as well? I know it's "meat contamination", but I always roll my eyes whenever I hear that. Once any athlete test positive for epo, to me, there will always be this * to their legacy.
I come from a background in figure skating and it is well known within the sport that USADA will not hit any Russian skaters for doping or -because of the performance aspect of the sport- using banned recovery drugs. Recently an italian figure skater was removed from russia for missing 3 drug tests while skating under one of the most famous cases of a "dope coach" Eteri Tuberize, who is about to face a trial for coaching the 15 year old, 2022 team gold medallist who was positive for doping and on a total of 3 heart medications.
The thing that tells me that everybody is on steroids is the injury recovery time. Like guys regularly get injuries that leave normal people unable to walk for 6 months and they fight 3 months later... Obviously they're peak athletes but that's just not possible without steroids. USADA is an IQ test not a drug test
I’m not the only one who thinks jiri popped and got stripped right? Supposedly had One of the worst shoulder injuries they’ve ever seen but plans to coms back soon?
You missed one of the most important aspects of location. USADA will sometimes contract out the collection of samples to other companies when testing outside the US, for example brasil. If the government there is corrupt and authoritarian and the contracted company is beholden to the government then its easy for a nationally recognized fighter to have clean samples swapped.
So for the tainted supplements could I just drop some of the hgh I've been taking into my whey protein hand it to usada and say there you go tainted supplement ?
When I was 11 years old, my mother stopped me from getting into boxing when I asked her. I have a simple choice reaction time of 125ms and my T levels are far above average. I went to some boxing, mma and jiu jitsu practice and sparring later in life and excelled at it. However, seeing how far doping has gotten, I'm glad she stopped me. The fighting sports world is filled with con artists, and I would have gotten myself hurt by going up against these cheaters.
@@wewantwraiths1definitely not too old I think that's a good age to start. Go to an MMA gym! You'll dig it. Take things as they come and create opportunities for networking for different training partners and even gym connections. Watch how far you come in 5 years. With a little natural athleticism and talent and we might see you in the UFC, bro! Go get em, kid!👊🇺🇸
There's literally tons of anabolics that only exist on paper. If you can get a decent chemist you can synthesis one after another. Alot of them you have to know what your testing for to find them. 😅
dude there's something like 10,000 engineers working on the google search engine alone.. and we're expected to think there isn't 10,000 people worldwide trying to learn how to cheat?
USADA worked pretty well at first but you can see how after a few hears the fighters figured it out and became jacked once again. maybe not as bad as pre USADA but pretty close.
Don’t forget former nba coach for over 40 years George Karl also said the Nba has a ped problem. He said athletes getting older but stronger and thinner, recovering from career ending injuries in less than a year nowadays lol. He said the coaches don’t know if a player tests positive for peds because their management or the league handles it and decides if to put it out there or not. Ayton from the suns got caught for peds before and Recently that former ufc fighter chael said him and lebron got the same ped doctor lmao..of course the league gonna ignore it cuz most of the players on it.
Everyone is on something might not be steroids but might be peptides or something else I just feel really bad for people trying to do whatever they are doing naturally its literally hell the boost you are getting from drugs is crazy. Considering even viking warriors were on some kind of ancient drugs makes me wanna think that success in sports wasnt about effort all along but how much you juiceing I may be coping but its really sad overall.
I think there is a good potential for AIs to be used by the usada. An AI could exploit correlations between blood levels, muscle growth and other physical symptoms to detect steroid users or former users.
I Just dont understand how people can believe that fighters who compete for literal millions of dollars aren't on steroids, considering it isn't hard at all to get away with
"Everybody on rice, chicken and broccoli"
- Nate Diaz
Hes vegan
@@Totalnikkadeath lol
that's code for steroids btw. if you ever hear a celebrity say that's how they got in shape, i guarantee they used gear. rice, chicken and broccoli doesn't work like that. it's fucking ridiculous.
@@Totalnikkadeath Quinoa, Spinach and Broccoli?😂😂
The bad ending.
Lets be real here, it would be interesting to know who is NOT on steroids... thats the real question
im in👍
Yea that would be the athlete I’d be impressed with tbh
gsp maybe
I feel, Khabib, GSP, Stipe Miocic & Daniel Cormier
@@DedicatedSpartan dc had like 7000 testosterone levels in one of his fights with jones as i can remember
As Rob Whittaker said on Grange Tv
USADA is an IQ test
Brilliant 😂
Thats actually funny
That dude is a freaking legend
That's dope lol
You’re missing one huge thing and thats that the UFC doesn’t have to disclose steroid failures anymore. Why was Jon out exactly 3 years? Why is Khamzat not fighting for an entire year??
Also Makhachev, too long out, definitely due to some roid ban. .
@@JasTheKariol Dana knows Makhachev is a huge money machine fighting in Abu Dhabi. He’s put him off til October.
@@99TJS1 he’s still on steroids he even admitted it stop dickk riding bro 😂
I think khamzat is punished for not making weight and running the event .
@@JasTheKariol He fought in February bro. a little over 4 months from now, or 3 months from your comment. What you're pushing doesn't make sense at all
These guys have insane cardio while training multiple times a day, cutting tons of weight and losing very little muscle mass, but somehow they're supposed to be natural.
Me and my father are able to do that naturally, but I also noticed that it's extremely rare for everyone else to do the same. For us that is normal behavior for an athlete (keep in mind it took many years to achieve this point. Im sure with the drugs these cheaters are taking helps them reach that point quickly)
We cut weight in high school wrestling, professional MMA fighters are going to cut weight even better. Conor is literally known for his shit cardio and he’s the face of the company, y’all are just couch potatoes that are jealous.
A little Epo and HGH goes a long way 😂😂
@@MrDragonkarp hater im sure your are jon jones fan hater cheater
None of what you mentioned is unnatural. The amount of people saying that exercising daily at a high pace is "impossible naturally" let's me know how lazy people are nowadays in the U.S. I would love to see them try to live with the Hazda ( or Hadza) tribe in Africa and see what they are capable of without eating the garbage we have for food in the U.S. I feel because someone is incapable of doing something they often say the one who does it is cheating. Sore loser mentality, they have.
The UFC pays USADA. Of course there is a conflict of interest. In the beginning they took down a lot of UFC stars, and then all of a sudden they took a back seat for a few years, and now they only bust mid/low tier fighters. Or people they don't really see a future in. They don't bust superstars anymore.
USADA is there so the casuals can sleep at night.
Anyone who uses the word "casual" is a casual. Give it up now.
@@dylanr8481 😂😂
@@dylanr8481 so that means he knows what he's talking about more than you
Very true. Follow the money, you think Dana would ever let himself get embarrassed by having any main card fighter pop positive? Then there's the millions of dollars from betting and gambling.
Explains why Jon Jones was given every unnecessary benefit of the doubt by USADA. He's one of the greatest fighters and puts butts in seats, for him to keep testing positive for steroids, getting suspended and stripped was a terrible look. For two scheduled fights in a row there was the pulsing picogram situation which was honestly just USADA pulling the wool over the eyes of fans as Turinabol (the drug he kept testing positive for) doesn't pulse yet USADA very conveniently changed their testing so now they won't flag anyone who has less than 100/mg of an illegal substance inside them, even though its almost certain said fighter was caught with illegal substances toward the end of their steroid cycle.
Call me a conspiracy theorist, but its all a bit too sus and convenient for Jones and the UFC.
Merab Dvallishvilli is a UFC fighter that I beleive is juicing. In his latest fight, he threw over 400 strikes and attempted 50 takedowns over 5 rounds without ever slowing down
He's 100% on juice, he beat a record set during the steroid era that takes a fuck load of stamina
I mean that like the only good thing about him and he is a fairly small guy. but I won't be surprise if he is on it
Aljo is definitely on roids. Wouldn't surprise me if the whole camps is.
It’s such a joke lmao. Physically impossible to do as a unenhanced person.
@@LowTierFallout You think Yan isn't juiced?
There’s no way Merab ain’t on something. His cardio is inhuman.
I know it's probably a cope but I can't see any other way you can shoot that many takedowns and not literally have a lung give out. Apart from land a fluke knee what was Yan even supposed to do
same thing with Cory SandHagen
@@zAwstrich merab shoots way more then sandhagen
@@jimmyjamdrops7326 it’s scary cause i don’t think he is he legit lives in Newark and gets tested a lot
He has the cardio of a teenager, and I guarantee the lifestyle of no drinking and no smoking has made his cardio stay the same/if not get better with age
People think USADA can get you anytime anywhere. Not true at all. You can miss 2/3 randoms per year, and there are a million excuses fighters can use to miss. USADA isn't a parole officer, these fighters still have rights and freedoms.
USADA is legit just a front to make it seem like athletes are clean for the image of the UFC
are you advocating for cheating? dude, what the hell is wrong with you people? whats the point of SPORT if everyones on PEDs??
@@nikoc8968 The same as it would be without it. Entertainment, competition. I don't think views would go down even a little bit if they allowed all PEDS, in fact I think viewership would go up. The problem is it would be more dangerous for the fighters. Champions are already on them, so why make them against the rules?
@@kylerBD ...the "competition" aspect is meant to see whos the best, not who uses the most drugs...are you a child, dude?
you make them "against the rules" because theyre cheating...are you actually serious right now?
@@nikoc8968 Yeah I'm dead serious. The competition aspect is already not fair. Usada turning a blind eye, ufc possibly paying them off, designer steroids, which are likely what jon jones takes, I say that with confidence because for a few of his fights he literally has female testosterone levels, something which is completely impossible for an athlete like him, which is caused by suppressing your natural testosterone production via steroids. Also another thing I can quickly list off, bio-identical steroids, such as testosterone and human growth hormone. Both of which levels vary greatly person to person and are very hard to test for.
With all these massive and near impossible problems to fix, how can you possibly think testing is worth it? The only possible way to have a completely steroid free sport would be to have a machine that can read your brain and directly scan it for lying, which would have to be 100% accurate.
Also, 2 final points
The people who physically respond extremely well to steroids are the same people who would dominate in a completely natural sport. People who are naturally very muscular or have great endurance naturally are the same people who respond very well to steroids, giving them an even greater effect from using them.
There are clear signs the top 5s in all the male divisions are juicing, but somehow, whichever way that may be they are getting away with it. So, what the fuck is the point in continuing to ban them? The only reason would be to continue this lie to lawmakers and politicians that this brutal sport is fair as it can be.
when USADA now came in people were melting but now they're starting up inflate again, physiques are getting bigger, cardio is getting crazy again etc
with more cheating, yes...
I believe everyone is on the juice. The only difference is who gets caught
Mark Hunt wasn't
@@dylanr8481 truth.
just facts
Everyone is on the juice, and those who get caught are probably on more.
Imagine doping and STILL getting yo ass whooped😂😅
The old guard melting under USADA is wasn’t indicative of the end of Steroid use but just the end of the old types of steroids.
If anyone even paid attention to what Dc said about Jones, would come to this conclusion.
"He got Caught cheating" as if cheating wasn't an issue as much as getting caught is.
cause DC had testosterone levels for their fight which were literally not even close to being achievable with a lot of steroids lmao DC basically just said Jon is dumb for getting caught lol because its so fucking easy
@@failnation3472 Yeah and plus when Dana spoke to him about it, DC said he'd sign a waiver and fight him anyway. Which makes me think he's on it too to not care. If someone I was fighting got caught for cheating and i was told about it. I'd say fuck that. Get that cheat away from me and let me fight someone clean.
(i could how ever be looking too much into it and he could have just been that confident in his ability)
@@jake360flip fr lol didnt think like that but makes sense DC was 1000% on gear his entire career lmao he was just way smarter with it and knew how to get away with it
Also gotta remember when dc mentioned it’s so easy to get away with it. Dc says there are things you can take up to the testing day and you’ll piss clean.
Amazing video man. Only thing I thought should be pointed out is that every fighter gets three whereabouts violations, every year. Making it even easier to continuously get away with it.
He did point it out around the 5min mark
@@aqnzel he mentioned how fighters get three whereabouts violations. I didn’t hear anything about it being per year. I honestly could have missed it.
Anyways hope you have a great weekend.
@@aqnzel you’re right. On the screen he has it saying within a 12 month period. My bad. I was only listening to that part
@@spweman same. I was also listening.
Watch it carefully numb nuts
now imagine organizations like the nfl and nba that have testing systems that give you 100x the leeway that usada does. its no mystery why so few ppl pop
An Olympic Athlete once said MOST of the athletes are on something that currently can't be detected.
*All sports are involved*
The most underrated channel.
@@hasaneisenschmied9229 shut up hater im sure you are izzy fan
I love volkanovski as a fellow australian but his athletic burst coming randomly at his old age and he's getting better is just freaky if he's natural, as well as how he went to thailand for makchachev
fr hes on gear
I mean credit to Volk for always improving and getting better but I don't think I've seen any fighter get faster in their mid 30s.
islam is on more russian designer drug steroid gear tho lmaoo
Yeah I would like to believe that Volk is clean but this is literally the only sport on earth where I have seen athletes become faster and stronger in their mid-thirties. That's just so suspicious.
They're all on something. Your favorite fighter, and the fighter you hate the most. Maybe 1 out of 100 are 100% drug free. Maaaybe.
Nate: everyone is on steroids
Also Nate: fails a test for steroid before Masvidal fight
He did say EVERYBODY
and USADA admitted their mistake in less than 24 hours after Nate asked for the proof.
That's not a contradiction
He was not wrong. GOAT.
If you think diaz was on steroids,you probably think he created his own company to contaminate his products with steroids and blame it on that if he gets caught😂He aint that smart
I firmly believe at LEAST 70% of fighters in the top 15 of any weight class are on some type of illegal substance
honestly I believe everyone is because they all know all of their opponents are and UFC does not want to lose out on money anymore so no good fighter will ever test positive again only unknown ones lol its so obvious and HGH is like 6 hours in your system lol
The other 30% are also on roids.
@@ishanparbhakar7150 facts
Sergei pavlovich is on all the russian gear, guy is built like a tank.
William Knight is the most obvious example imo
Btw Yoel Romero didn't see a penny of those millions because the "company" didnt exist. It was a front company that Yoel probably owned just for that scenario to escape punishment
???? Do you have a source for the yoel theory?? I'd like to read about that
@@jackgirard7289 very interesting.....man if Jones was as smart as Yoel he'd have 20 consecutive title defenses by now 😭
Ok, I’ve been digging into this more and more and it looks more sus the deeper you go. How did you know about this?
@@jackgirard7289 tell more
@@mockdr I'm not a reporter or anything, but I call it as I see it. I can't see my original comment for some reason, but here's the details as I understand them.
In 2016, Yoel tested positive for ibutamoren. He sued a supplement company named Goldstar Performance products over an alleged tainted supplement for $27 mil and won a default judgment, as the company never showed up to court. For a number that huge, not showing up is corporate suicide, especially since Goldstar wasn't a big company at all. (for the real freaks out there, the case name is YOEL ROMERO v. GOLD STAR DISTRIBUTION, LLC, in New Jersey, last updated in 2021)
They used to have a website, but that's not even around anymore. There was no way to buy products from a company that sells supplements. The pages all looped into one another. I actually had a web designer friend look at the code of the website and there was basically no way for the site to take your money. The number to contact them connected to another pharmacy entirely. You can't dig it up on the Internet Wayback machine either.
Look at their social media. Really look, not just scan over. Look at the dates. It’s all as shallow as a kiddy pool and never posts or gets engagement after 2018.
The timeline is very telling too. He fought with Chris Weidman and broke an orbital bone in his face on November 12th, 2016. He tested positive for ibutamoren, which makes you produce more Human Growth Hormone than normal. Derek from More Plates More Dates says this drug failure makes no sense because fighters have to cut weight and Ibutamoren makes you retain water. I contest that the substance makes sense if he was between fights and was trying to recover a broken orbital in a faster than human timeline so he can get back to training to prepare for his next fight in July 2017.
Since the lawsuit, the settlement has been reduced by over half in an appeal to a higher court. I'm too tired to read the 50 odd pages of court proceedings to figure out exactly how much and I'm reading conflicting things across news sites.
A reasonable person might imagine his management set up a fake company in advance of him testing positive for anything and then they put the plan into action when he popped. No hard sources and basically no coverage, but it is SUPER sus the whole way through.
Microdosing epo becomes even trickier as most of the testing is done via the biopassport (so standard value determined for each athlete) and micro dosing will mean you are less likely to throw up a flag on that specific testing regime. There us a fantastic amount of literature on this
They don't even use the bio passport, they just use piss tests. they do other testing if a red flag appears. Fighters using EPO don't have to worry at all
you think usada is going to the mountains of dagestan to test those guys?
fr lmao Islam is juiced as fuck lmao and cheated with an IV against Volk lol Ali tweeted it and the UFC does nothing against their Dagestani cash cows lmaoo same as Gaybender
It’s obvious when you have people like Kumaru usman, who has a ton of muscle, cuts a ton of weight, yet still has insane power and cardio
He's black
@@queball685 interesting point queball685 we didn't consider that
you def deserve more subscribers considering the editing and amount of research you do, love the content
aye bruh, finally some solid UFC content from a different creator. Keep it up dude! 👍
“Just look at them.” Boom end of video.
I think fight fans just don't care about steroids that much. Adesanya literally got gyno out of nowhere and no one cared
They do still care. Its just a top fighter hasn't popped in a long time. The last time Jones popped was back in 2019 for 'pulsing picograms' which was heavily downplayed by the UFC and USADA. TJ Dillashaw popping for EPO caused unanimous outrage among fans. A lot of fans cared when Adesanya had gyno. A top fighter needs to pop for the fans to spring into action and condemn the cheater.
The problem with that is that gyno is a side effect of steroids and Adesanya clearly didn’t have any muscle growth.
Like half the population of males has gyno... Most have too much bodyfat to even know. Many people get gyno out of nowhere...
@@geraldfisher6475this is just 100% false. Not even remotely close to being true… 😂💀🤦🏾♂️
Yeah we don't care because we know they are all on steroids anyway.
Most simply are , there be lightweights looking like heavyweights in that mf 💀
shut up hater 100% izzy fan
poirier lmaoo
Ippo makunoichi ass bodies, weighing 65 kg of pure beef, looking like a mini fridge
@@failnation3472Poirier definitely on the sauce. Impossible to throw so many combos and not gas out with that piss poor footwork. Not to mention his torso expands more and more each fight
@@Pandemomium4LifeUSADA never did anything Lance Armstrong passed 216 USADA tests while being on EPO and HGH the entire time admitted it 10 years later and they had to go to the 17th place to find the first cycler that wasnt juiced. Cant believe yall on YOutube think USADA ever did anything when HGH and EPO stay in your system for only 24 to 48 hours but the effects last a month lol. Every top fighter rn and in history is and was on steroids/PEDS especially GSP ran away as soon drug testing came in and always looked juiced and had an HGH gut
even fucking Sean O Malley is on PEDS you dont have to look like Izzy or Usman lol O Malley already popped twice and was 2 years off because of that,
USADA has their people in every country.. Do yall really think some guy in Dagestan or Russia actually tests these guys they just tip him a few thousands and he takes anothers mans piss lol
also the UFC never would let a draw/star test positive for soooo many years now look at Izzy and fucking Usman
It was obvious to me the second Nate said that it was true.
McGregor is juiced to the gills at the moment and is expecting a fight this year.
atleast he left the usada pool and it was for healing his leg. the rest are just cheating and competing (izzy, usman being the worst)
@@failnation3472 leaving the USADA pool was a loophole he abused, why are you saying it like that makes his steroid usage better?
my favorite thing about people arguing back and forth is that they have no idea what steroids are like, and how easily you can cycle around testing, the only ones who get caught are the ones who go overboard like jones, but best believe nothing changed once he got caught other than he got better at hiding it
mannn i been doing boxing for a year and im not training seriously. i hurt my hand 2 times resulted me not being able to train for a month. so many times i couldnt go to training cuz my ribs were hurting like shit. so there is no way these dudes train like this and dont get injured every 2 minutes.
The human body is not designed to fight like that for so many times in years, so I assumed from the start there might be some substances involved. Nevertheless, that does not take the talent of those fighters.
Why is this question important when looking at athletes and celebrities? People need to know the reality to set up their expectations when working for their goals. I am a 180 lbs person who works out daily and until recently I never found satisfaction in my training and I had moments when I quit bcs I did not see the progress as I had expected. After learning that these guys dedicate their whole lives without doing much else besides and have teams that deal on their workout, nutrition + alleged substances they take, I have learned to enjoy working out again.
Very glad that people are starting to dissect what is shown to them. There is always more than it meets the eye
Mark Hunt stopped fighting because absorbing roided up punches will result in more brain damage, especially since a roided up body will be capable of taking more hits despite the brain staying just as vulnerable to constant impacts.
That's not a good argument because men in the past (before steroids existed) fought much more frequently and for longer bouts.
One of the ways to avert many of these issues is to test for irregularities in cellular and organ/ system functions over a prolonged period of time, in which any non-explainable deviation (eg sudden increase in muscle growth or oxygen carrying capacity, etc) would raise flags for further testing/ scrutiny. If that makes sense.
Downsides to this would obviously be that this process is much more complicated and the pathological as well as physiological analysis is much more intensive compared to a simple blood/urine/serum antigenic/ chemical test. Also, figuring out a set of standardised criteria to track over a prolonged period will also require some thought.
Always knows that PED's are everywhere in sports. Since I was a kid. If you do sports, you should be able to put 2+2 together. At the top level of any sport everyone's on rocket fuel.
Anybody whos ever been around high level competitors or amateurs who are training to be proffessionals in any physically demanding sport can tell you that being on steroids is the rule, not the exception. They often start them off as young as 16 with the premise that they re giving them supplements/vitamins and once they re pro they dont care anymore cause they know everyone does it. The companies making the steroids are far ahead of the ones testing because they have to catch up to the new methods they thought of to avoid detection.
And if they lost to a natural athlete?
@@callumward7503then you retire
From what I understand, USADA doesn't travel to every country, and they subcontract the work out to the testing agencies of other countries
which means corrupt countries like russia wont test you for real you just give the guy that should test you a good amount of money and he tells them your clean...
The saying still rings true. You can be be big/strong, you can be shredded or you can be natural. You can be 1 or 2 of those things but never all 3.
People act like nate diaz has a crystal ball or some shit. The reason why nate said that is because conor called him out for using steroids and for his training partners failing drug tests. So nate's dumb ass was like "everybody is on steroids" basically admitting to using steroids
As if honest admitting of the fact of cheating nullifies all the cheating 😅
False
Nate said it before connor accused Nate or his friends
Nate repeated it
Never forget Alistoid Testostoreem.
Alisteroid Overoid.
The thing is no matter the system you put in place there are workarounds like one championships hydration test where it is so easy to beat it is unreal and you could literally be on death's door and you could still look like you are the most hydrated man in existence there are always ways to get around the systems they put in place.
cant believe tjlovesfights is on steroids
I was told that If you have enough money, there are ways to hide getting caught.
Been waiting for this one.
Of course man it's practically impossible to perform in that level without any "vitamins", same goes for the olympics, even when all the russians were on gear they didn't beat everyone, that means everyone is using something or another.
Nah people can achieve it naturally, its just extremely rare. I've been blessed with these genetics but only recently have I decided to finally do something with them.
@@returnalnocturnal7729 lol
@@returnalnocturnal7729 keep telling yourself that darling, Brock Lesnar agrees with u lol
lmao Islam and his 'vitamins'
@@returnalnocturnal7729 Are you the best in the world at anything? No you’re not
Usada almost needs to have a employee with the fighter at all times during camp. I won't be surprised if that happens some time down the line.
Tainted substances, cough couch canelos tainted steak 😂
I’m not on steroids but I’ve been thought to have been. I want to be one of the few noble natties fighting in the UFC
Crazy how that Jones fight week usada said it's ok to have 99 picograms pulsing threw ur body, so I guess Jones was on 99 picograms
Very convenient how USADA changed their testing rules after the pulsing picograms situation.
Right in time for a massive ppv which could lead to an even bigger one when Jones vs Miocic finally gets booked, if it ever does
I could only imagine the drug use among amateur fighters
High school football players stay juiced up. There is a school on Florida called Boone. They always won when I was in school. They looked like grown men playing highschoolers. They were jacked, big, full beards and just swole as hell. Of course very explosive and never tired. They won so damn much it was crazy.
If I was in the UFC I would do all my training camps in North Korea or on a mountaintop somewhere Usada physically couldn’t reach
ok go hater
I've always wondered if a fighter pops for roids is the decision to let them fight still the ufcs or is it like illegal or something since they have usada testing the fighters, also is it legally necessary to have drug testing from a third party or does the ufc just use usada for other reasons
UFC hired USADA when they were getting the company ready for a sale so it makes the sport look more legitimate.
"Everybody is on steroids, including me"
- Nate Diaz
Funny how you have Pacquiao on your profile but there isn't a single video on him haha
Great channel though, looks like this will grow to 100k subscribers, let's gooooo!
Nice videos man. Just found your page. New subscriber. Great video content.
It’s just like in gaming, the developers hire these anti-cheat companies similar to what usada is to the ufc, but as long as it’s something competitive people will always find a way to cheat no matter what
Didn't Canelo tested positive for epo, as well? I know it's "meat contamination", but I always roll my eyes whenever I hear that. Once any athlete test positive for epo, to me, there will always be this * to their legacy.
If everyone they fight against is on roids aswell then it doesn’t really matter
Yeah I’m sure almost billionaire canelo has his meat being contaminated
Canelo tested positive for less than the banned amount. Canelo has been Vada tested since 2018 I believe he’s the most Vada tested boxer in boxing
@@gorofolkz3127 canelo alvarez is on steroids bro 😂😂
@@gorofolkz3127 canela alvaroids 😂😂😂
I come from a background in figure skating and it is well known within the sport that USADA will not hit any Russian skaters for doping or -because of the performance aspect of the sport- using banned recovery drugs.
Recently an italian figure skater was removed from russia for missing 3 drug tests while skating under one of the most famous cases of a "dope coach" Eteri Tuberize, who is about to face a trial for coaching the 15 year old, 2022 team gold medallist who was positive for doping and on a total of 3 heart medications.
All this to say, I am sure USADA is attempting to rein in doping Russian athletes but it's not possible in the current political climate.
They dont even test gynobender because he is the posterboy
The thing that tells me that everybody is on steroids is the injury recovery time. Like guys regularly get injuries that leave normal people unable to walk for 6 months and they fight 3 months later... Obviously they're peak athletes but that's just not possible without steroids. USADA is an IQ test not a drug test
Like what injury specifically
Normal ligaments or bone breaks you can heal rather quickly, brain injuries, maybe eyes, bad beatings , spinal and acl tears is where you gotta worry
Everyone's on (less/designer) steroids
All the best athletes in my schools were on it. That was a over 30 years ago in Kansas.
You bet they're all on it.
It's not just basic substances anymore, designer drugs are so much more advanced, prevalent and undetectable I wonder if USADA really has a purpose.
I’m not the only one who thinks jiri popped and got stripped right? Supposedly had One of the worst shoulder injuries they’ve ever seen but plans to coms back soon?
Izzy is the only athlete in world history to suddenly develop a rapid onset of gynecomastia.. with not steroid use 😆😆
You missed one of the most important aspects of location. USADA will sometimes contract out the collection of samples to other companies when testing outside the US, for example brasil. If the government there is corrupt and authoritarian and the contracted company is beholden to the government then its easy for a nationally recognized fighter to have clean samples swapped.
Hey what's your upload schedule.? One video a week. Just wanted ti know. I just subbed
Can you do a video talking about ped usage in boxing?
Well made video. Thanks for sharing.
I always wonder how a lot of these guys can get beat to a pulp and still continue to fight lol
So for the tainted supplements could I just drop some of the hgh I've been taking into my whey protein hand it to usada and say there you go tainted supplement ?
you need a company which gives you the tainted supplement but thats quite easy to set up once you got some money...
Excellent video! I learned a lot!
It's quite amazing to watch these fighters fight for 5 rounds and some not getting tired. Grapple with someone for a minute all out and i'm beat!
That's no surprise, just look at some of these fighters they look like bodybuilders, now way they could put on that much muscle with a fighters body
Every top sportsman is on something . They just slightly change the compound which makes its it legal then once usda catch on they change it again .
When I was 11 years old, my mother stopped me from getting into boxing when I asked her. I have a simple choice reaction time of 125ms and my T levels are far above average. I went to some boxing, mma and jiu jitsu practice and sparring later in life and excelled at it. However, seeing how far doping has gotten, I'm glad she stopped me. The fighting sports world is filled with con artists, and I would have gotten myself hurt by going up against these cheaters.
Hey man, I’m 20 but I really want to start training, do you think I’m too old now? Can I still go for it?
@@wewantwraiths1definitely not too old I think that's a good age to start. Go to an MMA gym! You'll dig it. Take things as they come and create opportunities for networking for different training partners and even gym connections. Watch how far you come in 5 years. With a little natural athleticism and talent and we might see you in the UFC, bro! Go get em, kid!👊🇺🇸
I agree with this. My thoughts. Just most fans don't realize this.
Looks very possible to bypass USADA.
There's literally tons of anabolics that only exist on paper. If you can get a decent chemist you can synthesis one after another. Alot of them you have to know what your testing for to find them. 😅
Belals head is twice the size it was when he started in the ufc
They are. Just more stringent protocols.
What about the “I’m retired” loop hole
MPMD said the only way to do this is to consistently do blood work to catch fighters blood levels spiking or being abnormal.
Has there ever been a usada employee that went to Dagestan to test someone? Ever?
there is no doubt about Kamaru
If its a competitive sport assume everyone is using some sort of ped, it is what it is unfortunately
dude there's something like 10,000 engineers working on the google search engine alone.. and we're expected to think there isn't 10,000 people worldwide trying to learn how to cheat?
USADA worked pretty well at first but you can see how after a few hears the fighters figured it out and became jacked once again. maybe not as bad as pre USADA but pretty close.
Don’t forget former nba coach for over 40 years George Karl also said the Nba has a ped problem. He said athletes getting older but stronger and thinner, recovering from career ending injuries in less than a year nowadays lol. He said the coaches don’t know if a player tests positive for peds because their management or the league handles it and decides if to put it out there or not. Ayton from the suns got caught for peds before and Recently that former ufc fighter chael said him and lebron got the same ped doctor lmao..of course the league gonna ignore it cuz most of the players on it.
Everyone is on something might not be steroids but might be peptides or something else I just feel really bad for people trying to do whatever they are doing naturally its literally hell the boost you are getting from drugs is crazy. Considering even viking warriors were on some kind of ancient drugs makes me wanna think that success in sports wasnt about effort all along but how much you juiceing I may be coping but its really sad overall.
Brock Lesnar head grew 😅. Dude was a walking pharmacy
I wanna see "more plates more dates" react to this video and see what he has to say. He's the number one CZcamsr talking about this kind of stuff 😎
great video, great topic
I think there is a good potential for AIs to be used by the usada. An AI could exploit correlations between blood levels, muscle growth and other physical symptoms to detect steroid users or former users.
I Just dont understand how people can believe that fighters who compete for literal millions of dollars aren't on steroids, considering it isn't hard at all to get away with
Are you going live during the fight tonight?
Recently usada has declard about alex perrira and adesanya that are both didn't any test
Adesanya's gyno is just insane.. it's all so effing frustrating. I'm really starting to think we should stop caring about p.e.d.s .. idk ..