Fire Emblem Path of Radiance: Unused Content

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  • čas přidán 11. 07. 2024
  • This game has a LOT of really interesting stuff hidden in its code.
    Information found at:
    TheCuttingRoomFloor (tcrf.net/Fire_Emblem:_Path_of...)
    SerenesForest (serenesforest.net/general/unu..., serenesforest.net/path-of-rad...)
    Fireemblemwiki.org (fireemblemwiki.org/wiki/Unuse...)
    Featuring video footage from:
    Archayanami
    bnugentkarate
    Mangs
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Komentáře • 342

  • @neog8029
    @neog8029 Před 5 lety +375

    Double Bow.
    Internal Name: *_LONGLONGBOW._*
    I'm dead. XD

  • @NotGuy64
    @NotGuy64 Před 5 lety +158

    to this day boyd is still t posing at that tiger

  • @billclintonsmagicbeefarm5799

    I can confirm the Ike Iron Sword glitch, it always happens to me when I play and I just thought it was a weird standard thing. Pretty cool glitch.

  • @neffi1941
    @neffi1941 Před 5 lety +155

    Boyd T-posing made my day. That's a lot of very interesting information, thanks for doing this. Looking forward to unused RD content.

  • @ShiruAbend
    @ShiruAbend Před 5 lety +107

    LONGLONGBOW and T-pose Boyd made me choke on my drink

  • @KinataKnight
    @KinataKnight Před 5 lety +124

    More Sigrun trivia: her map model is a palette swap of Elincia's. She doesn't have a lance model because the Princess Crimea class can't use lances.

    • @BigKlingy
      @BigKlingy  Před 5 lety +40

      That makes perfect sense, thanks for pointing that out.

  • @SharlaBlades
    @SharlaBlades Před 5 lety +124

    You can really see the groundwork for Radiant Dawn here.Goes to show you how much they thought though tellius. I'm also still taken a back by how much the black knights real identity was being hinted at here.

  • @rickyi3523
    @rickyi3523 Před 5 lety +64

    Damn, all this time I thought Ike having four Iron Swords was intentional. I saw him have that many and just figured, "well, I guess he just wanted to go into battle prepared."

    • @Flipercat
      @Flipercat Před rokem +13

      Yea me too, I though it was kinda weird but I suspected the devs wanted to make sure Ike doesn't run out of weapons.

  • @astracrits4633
    @astracrits4633 Před 5 lety +55

    Tbh somebody needs to make some art depicting how Ike carried four iron swords into battle.

  • @TheoneandonlyBobb
    @TheoneandonlyBobb Před 5 lety +42

    For those who don't know, a "double" in programming variable type declaration is a a "long long". The name makes perfect sense.

  • @catharsisCatalyst
    @catharsisCatalyst Před 5 lety +95

    18:10 asserting dominance

    • @starmaker75
      @starmaker75 Před 5 lety +6

      I guess that the devil axe true stat.

    • @BunnyOnASnuman
      @BunnyOnASnuman Před 5 lety +1

      Boyd: BEGONE THOT *t poses *
      *Gets backfired and died *

    • @jaymills817
      @jaymills817 Před 5 lety +2

      Rated T for T posing.

  • @teresaledbetter9333
    @teresaledbetter9333 Před 5 lety +43

    42:11
    THATS A GLITCH? I thought Ike was just being a bit overprepared!

    • @BigKlingy
      @BigKlingy  Před 5 lety +4

      Yep. He's only supposed to start with one. Not sure why it happens, but it was fixed in the PAL version.

    • @CrystalGreymon
      @CrystalGreymon Před 5 lety +6

      He is. That's the glitch. The game can't understand why he does it but Ike values preperation.

  • @firetarrasque4667
    @firetarrasque4667 Před 5 lety +92

    Okay, who came up with these Internal names.
    "Sworder."
    *"Longlongbow"*

  • @Openzmindz_
    @Openzmindz_ Před 5 lety +43

    At 18:09, Boyd asserts his dominance, then the Feral One is absolutely stunned.

  • @nightstrider15
    @nightstrider15 Před 4 lety +33

    The Zihark x Ike bond would have made his conversations in Radiant Dawn even better. I always found it odd they acted like old friends in RD when they barely interacted in PoR...

    • @CaptainZangoose
      @CaptainZangoose Před rokem +1

      Not as weird as the Black Knight knowing Sothe by name in 1-9's end scene

    • @KopperNeoman
      @KopperNeoman Před 6 měsíci +1

      ​@@CaptainZangooseGiven how much emphasis was given to his transfers, he likely canonically killed many of Ashnard's men.

  • @MasterEnex
    @MasterEnex Před 5 lety +48

    12:34 - 14:30 Join me! Fan Fiction Writers! To a New World of Possibilities!

  • @killean2645
    @killean2645 Před 5 lety +36

    You can actually look at Leanne's stat screen even before the other birds show up by going to Ike's stat screen and pressing "a", which shuffles to the characters he's carrying and vice versa. (You can see that in your video at 10:16 where it says "Traveler" at the bottom right.)

    • @lpfan4491
      @lpfan4491 Před 5 lety +2

      ikr,its pretty useful to see technicly unused greenunit-statscreens(like natalie in fe7)

  • @palmerailanjian7402
    @palmerailanjian7402 Před 5 lety +18

    I thought the four iron sword thing was just a feature lol

  • @Rengor1997
    @Rengor1997 Před 5 lety +88

    19:20 - I do not know if you cover this in "regional differences" but the Blue 1-use Laguz Stone IS ACTUALLY USED as an item on some enemy Laguz in chapter 15, the desert one. If you get close to some of the laguz, they will use it to transform. This is the only time it appears afaik, though perhaps some of the enemy Ravens have it, I never bothered to check.

    • @BigKlingy
      @BigKlingy  Před 5 lety +12

      Wait... I've never seen that before. You mean on Maniac, or not? Because I've been through that chapter many times and I haven't seen that item on any of them.

    • @Rengor1997
      @Rengor1997 Před 5 lety +26

      @@BigKlingy It's indeed Maniac Mode only, I forgot to mention that.

    • @BigKlingy
      @BigKlingy  Před 5 lety +12

      I just looked up Mang's video of that chapter. Annoyingly, he didn't show the inventories of any of the enemies at the start of the map, so I just have to take his word for it.
      It's weird this isn't highly publicised, but I guess not a lot of (non-Japanese) people play Maniac.

    • @Rengor1997
      @Rengor1997 Před 5 lety +11

      @@BigKlingy czcams.com/video/TflB_pyHVsM/video.html here's the one demonstration of this I found on CZcams

    • @BigKlingy
      @BigKlingy  Před 5 lety +13

      Thanks for the link. I might add that in as an addendum to the RD Unused Content video.

  • @Keegster23
    @Keegster23 Před 5 lety +19

    Elincia and Nephenee being planned to support is a bit more interesting now, as the two are announced to have a Bound Hero Battle together in Fire Emblem Heroes. I wonder if they'll reference any other unused support pairings in the future?

  • @arcflamearcanum7579
    @arcflamearcanum7579 Před 5 lety +35

    lol Path of Radiance spoiled the Black Knights identity before its sequel, and Heroes.
    Kinda funny if you think about it even if you have to dig through the games code...
    Also sidenote but... Got Legendary Azura in Heroes. Very happy. lul.

    • @BigKlingy
      @BigKlingy  Před 5 lety +4

      Apparently they spoiled it at an RD press conference too. They've never wanted to hide it, it seems.

  • @brendankelly9546
    @brendankelly9546 Před 4 lety +14

    Just an FYI, regarding Leanne being rescued in chapter 17, you can always view her stats by looking at Ike’s stats and then pressing “A”

  • @kirby2325
    @kirby2325 Před 4 lety +13

    3:22 I find Greil's Aether animation interesting. It's mostly the same as Ike's, but I notice Greil takes longer to throw and even catch the sword. When Ike Aethers, it's a split-second before he tosses the sword, and he catches it at the peak of its flight, just before it starts falling, whereas Greil takes second to point, then catches the weapon halfway down. I feel like that's another way to show he's struggling to use his weapons. Or he's more composed than Ike, and waits longer to make sure he doesn't jump into the blade and kill himself as any real person likely would in trying to replicate the move.
    44:53 Wow. Were they TRYING to ruin their own secret?!
    Seriously, I get that the games are old, but damn, they have NO respect for their own plot twists. It's amazing that all of this was planned out even back in Path Of Radiance's development, but geez.

    • @JaidynReiman
      @JaidynReiman Před 29 dny

      The funny thing is that despite all this pre planning, the character endings in PoR often do not match their developments in RD. Astrid, Makalov, and Marcia return to Begnion... only to wind up in Crimea in RD.

  • @kevinvanveen3260
    @kevinvanveen3260 Před 4 lety +7

    I was a real mind=blown moment when i learned about Maniac mode because i really wondered why the easy mode has a red color on the chapter select screen turned out the chapter selected colors in the japanese version were green-blue-red which makes way more sense than red-green-blue.

    • @BigKlingy
      @BigKlingy  Před 4 lety +1

      Yeah, Easy using Maddening's colour did look weird. It also created a bug with the save import in Radiant Dawn, since RD was only coded to accept Normal, Hard and Maniac saves (since Easy didn't exist in the JP version), which the EU version thankfully fixed.
      Most people who've played Maniac Mode say it's not that good though. It makes the game more tedious than difficult.

  • @mattk7313
    @mattk7313 Před 5 lety +13

    I never realized Ike having a full inventory of iron swords was a bug. I've never once used the tutorials, so I have always assumed that's how it normally worked. I guess that's the one tutorial I will actually use from now on. The extra swords just take up space and get sold later.

  • @Tentaku64
    @Tentaku64 Před 5 lety +15

    You actually are able to view Leanne's stats without the need to wait for Tibarn and company to appear. You can view Ike's stats and press the A button to view the stats of the unit being rescued. In that case, Leanne's stats.

  • @mariovsonic999
    @mariovsonic999 Před 5 lety +19

    I like the detail of Greil having an S rank axe since he was the original wielder of Urvan.
    Annoying that some Srank weapons were never used. I mean, it makes some sense in FE5 because its a midquel.
    Man, I like the Shining Bow. I had one recent Conquest playthrough where I paired Niles with Felicia and Nina made good use of the Shining Bow (actually her most reliable damage).
    Boyd tried to make a deal with the devil and is instead asserting dominance to that feral one.

    • @BigKlingy
      @BigKlingy  Před 5 lety +4

      It's also probably because he comes with Urvan in some of his cutscene appearances, like Chapter 7. (The cutscene version of him in that chapter has most of his stats capped, though)
      It's weird they coded those 3 S Rank weapons into the game but never gave them to you. I remember a very old Japanese FAQ where the developers were asked about that, and apparently the answer was "balance reasons".
      1-2 range bows are always fun. Anna is also really good with it in that game.
      He got cursed, but not the curse he was expecting.

  • @JammedIce
    @JammedIce Před 5 lety +16

    I have a feeling that originally Tannith's reinforcements would have included the Sword Knight rather than the two Pega Knights, considering that Heather and Meltly's stats are near identical.
    Makalov's retreat is just as pathetic as he is.
    Mist and Volke's possible supports have one of 2 ways it can really go, really sweet and adorable, or morbidly hilarious.
    Probably the former.
    Black Snanaki is probably similar to Good/Fake Sefiran. At some point there was a plot point relating to body doubles of them that was cut. That, or maybe Sanaki was playable or a boss. Maybe possesed by a goddess a la Yune?
    It's possible that Urvan was cut because it would be weird for Ike not to be able to use his fathers own Axe. It also raises the question of when should you get it. I wish the devil Axe was still in the game though.
    If Sothe becomes a generic assassin, puberty hits him even harder than in canon. I didn't know that was even possible.p

  • @galladeforce
    @galladeforce Před 5 lety +54

    A bit of a nice touch with Greil is that his Axe Rank is higher than his Sword Rank, considering that he cut the tendons in his Sword arm so he could not use Swords ever again despite being a Swordsman by trade him his Axe Rank overtaking makes sense as he has been relying on Axes for a decade or so. He might have even used Axes as a secondary weapon while part of the Four Riders so when he switched to Axes he was using he had slight expertise in beforehand.
    You would think that with how much future Radiant Dawn content is foreshadowed in this games code spelling it out that Radiant Dawn was planned years in advance you would think that they would have kept all the unused characters who were saved for the sequel’s affinities consistent with their Radiant Dawn counterparts.
    A shame that not all of the Legendary Weapons are obtainable as it essentially makes quite a few S Ranks way less useful than they might have been, so why have a S Rank at all since as far as I can tell you only get a bonus to your hit when using those weapons by getting an S Rank for any weapon type that is not Swords, Bows, Thunder Magic or Light Magic.
    The Bright Bow looks and sounds like a very cool concept but it would be a undercut as a useful weapon since as far as I can tell their are no or very few Bows users in this game who have a good Magic stat. So I would probably end up a lot of time more useful for allowing you weaken enemies with a Bow user so they could be killed off next turn rather than an enemy clearer. The Shining Bow at the very least has the Adventurer class, a physical Bow using class with Staves and hence a slightly higher Magic stat than classes that only use physical weapons that can take advantage of it to kill a lot of enemies.
    Adult Sanaki seems like a good basis for a future Sanaki alt in Heroes. Especially that since Sanaki has no promotion there is no real alternate design that one can take influence from since her Path of Radiance and Radiant Dawn designs look very similar. Might have gotten less backlash from hardcore fans if her last alt was based on that unused design too now that I think about it.
    So Path of Radiance Maniac Enemies are like Echoes Shadows of Velentia enemies. Since relatively low Attack stats on your units. Most weapons not having more than a few might and a lot of enemies especially later ones having HP in the 40,s like Gold Knights or Bow Knight and Defence stats that are about the same as you own members of those classes. So a enemy Gold Knight would have about 12 Defence while most of your army would have attack in the early 20s. Making cleaning out enemies take a long time since with out critical it is impossible to 1 round most enemies. Though that might be just me having that problem.
    Looks like even back then Intelligent Systems did not care about leaving evidence of the Black Knights identity somewhere for people to see. It is not as bad as later examples since those were out in open with Heroes directly spoiling it, Smash Ultimate heavily implying it and Awakening giving us a big clue. But you would think that incase somebody hacks your game that you would not link the name internal files of the Black Knights music to his real identity.
    So Heroes has Beasts coming soon. So how do you think they will work exactly or what kind of skills our new units will have? I actually half expect Tibarn to be a lot like Laegjarn, Having good Attack, Speed and Defence but his Resistance has been left in the dust to reflect how he is both strong, fast and physically durable in Radiant Dawn, though that might not be the case considering what I said about Septembers Conquest Banner a few weeks, where 3 of the 4 characters in it had stats that differed a good amount from their original game. Naliah I see as focusing primarily on Speed and I have an inkling that maybe she might have good Resistance stat but I do not know why. I see Tibarn being more enemy phase focused with his skills reflecting that, maybe with something like Fierce Stance 4 to make him the king of counterattack damage while Naliah is lot more player phase focused in her skill layout. Was it confirmed that there is going to be a transformation Gauge for Heroes Beast units. If so in exchange for starting the battle untransformed and with lower stats their actual stats while transformed are higher than the stat total their unit type normally has. Like maybe Tibarn has 40 for his Attack stat at max level while transformed but does not suffer as much from the deprivation in other stats that would normally come with having such a high Attack stat. Like for example Laegjarn if she wanted 40 in any of her stats it would either make her bad Resistance even worse, reduce her Speed making her easier to double... Hopefully we get something really interesting. Might throw some orbs the Banners way if so

    • @BigKlingy
      @BigKlingy  Před 5 lety +2

      Not sure why they got some of the affinities right, like Caineghis and Sigrun, but others wrong.
      Of all the S Rank weapons, they decided to give us the Double Bow, which is... bleh in this game.
      The Bright Bow wouldn't have been that great, except maybe Astrid all the Bow users have bad Magic. But the 1-2 range is nice.
      Maybe they should've based her Bride alt on her older unused art. I... think there's a pretty good reason why people complained about her getting a Bride alt.
      Echoes enemies were mostly durable due to the different doubling mechanics, especially Gargoyles.

  • @meorwhatever7397
    @meorwhatever7397 Před 5 lety +64

    Dude dont worry about Radiant Dawn spoilers Fire Emblem Heroes beat you to it

    • @uberlord983
      @uberlord983 Před 5 lety +26

      So does Smash Ultimate. That game is NOT spoiler-friendly in the slightest.

    • @meorwhatever7397
      @meorwhatever7397 Před 5 lety +3

      @@uberlord983 yeah i saw the spirit your talking about

    • @BigKlingy
      @BigKlingy  Před 5 lety +23

      Just in case people haven't seen though though. There ARE still people out there who haven't been spoiled on FF7, after all. I still want to respect people who are avoiding spoilers.

    • @thanakoto2239
      @thanakoto2239 Před 5 lety +9

      Yeah BigKlingy has A point I didn't know who the black knight was in the beginning of Path of Radiance
      Then I played heroes

    • @uberlord983
      @uberlord983 Před 5 lety +15

      @@meorwhatever7397 I wasn't referencing any spirit in particular. It spoils MULTIPLE characters. Fire Emblem, Castlevania, Xenoblade, you name it. There's a spoiler for everyone.

  • @NoahOfTheArc
    @NoahOfTheArc Před 5 lety +4

    It's always so interesting to see unused content, since it gives us a glimpse of what the game went through before becoming the full version we all know.
    That is a LOT of support conversations that never made it. I wish we knew what ideas they had planned for those.

  • @XellosNi
    @XellosNi Před 5 lety +8

    Oscar and Astrid
    **Internal Screaming**

  • @thebravegallade731
    @thebravegallade731 Před 5 lety +23

    oh hey, free sommon.... oh nice 5* roy.
    those extra iron swords mean that you basically NEVER have to buy iron swords for ike and mia. also makes it easier to just spam thouse 2 and not worry about weapon uses.
    RD spoiler discussion below
    why the HELL would they name the black knight's theme BGM_BTL_ZELGIUS1? thank GOD the internet and datamining community was smaller back then or we would have ALL been spoiled before RD came out.
    oh well its not like a certain mobile game just blew that secret to high heaven... grumble grumble.
    its the ONLY reason why I'm OK with how zelguis's spirit evolves in smash ultimate. becasue everyone who cares anything about fire emblem is already spoiled.

    • @carlosmendoza1177
      @carlosmendoza1177 Před 5 lety +3

      That's something I don't like about FEH, that game is just a huge spoiler for the entire saga

    • @lpfan4491
      @lpfan4491 Před 5 lety

      just like how fe8 lives through its pacing and mystery,yet lyon is like "hurr durr,demon king" and eirika is already as brave as in the end of the game.feh ruins the potential remakes of some games(not that the fe9 remake would come out before at least 2028 tho)

    • @CosmicToad5000
      @CosmicToad5000 Před 5 lety

      Yeah i went into RD knowing who the BK was becuase of heroes, (as well as sephiran's true nature due to casually lookng up character archetypes on the wiki one time) but it was still and incredibly engaging story that made me want to keep playing even if i was exhausted from the gameplay to see more of how things played out. I also thankfully didn't get spoiled on bertram, which coupled with a bunch of characters finally reappearig from PoR, was definitely a highlight of the story for me.
      Also got spoiled on plenty of FE4 stuff, what with sll the barbecue jokes and the general popularity of the game nowadays, but i'm waiting for a remake to play it and hopefully they'll be enough fluff to the story then to make it interesting enough.
      Also the BK is an awesome spirit in Ultimate, best red i've seen even after beating the adventure mode.

    • @lpfan4491
      @lpfan4491 Před 5 lety +1

      chef arvis is the best discordemote

  • @JetblackJay
    @JetblackJay Před 5 lety +4

    👌 I've learned something new today

  • @SSBBPOKEFAN
    @SSBBPOKEFAN Před 5 lety +13

    Another regional difference, although it's one you probably covered already during the actual playthrough: The crit bonuses for Swordmasters, Berserkers, and Snipers are NOT present in the Japanese version. Only in the localized releases. Also, the Japanese version has fully voiced narration for all overworld map scenes.
    Also, I'm sure "Strong" Greil is used for when Greil fights Petrine during the cutscene after Chapter 7, similar to how other NPC characters have programmed stats to show up on the map, if only in cutscenes.

    • @BigKlingy
      @BigKlingy  Před 5 lety +3

      Basically, I wasn't going to cover ALL regional differences here, just the extra content that's only available in the Jp version, i.e Maniac and the BB illustrations. If I did that for RD it'd take a while due to the sheer number of skills that got changed.
      Also, link to the Japanese voiced narration, please?
      You're half-right about Strong Greil. The version that's use during the Chapter 7 cutscene has ALL his stats capped though, and is a separate Greil. The cutscene versions of characters are different to their playable ones, the Chapter 7 Black Knight has everything capped.

  • @GoupLikeSoup
    @GoupLikeSoup Před 5 lety +9

    You were right when you told me there was a lot of unused content in these games. I never knew about older Sanaki.

    • @imthethriller
      @imthethriller Před 4 lety

      I think i read somewhere that Sanaki was going to be an Elderly woman at one point but change her to a little girl because it seemed to maker more since from a plot stand point and as BIgKilgy puts it for humor.

  • @anp1918
    @anp1918 Před 4 lety

    Awesome video!!! Thanks for putting in the hard work!

  • @thepheeesh
    @thepheeesh Před 5 lety +20

    Wait wait wait. Your telling me. Ike isn't supposed to get 4 iron swords at the beginning of the game.... THATS HOW I'VE ALWAYS PLAYED THO LOL. And ps
    It's not nearly as helpful as youd think when the convoy isn't available for awhile. Meaning most will get ditched

    • @BigKlingy
      @BigKlingy  Před 5 lety +5

      Yep, it's a US-version exclusive bug, and I have no idea why that happens.
      And yeah, the lack of convoy definitely makes it a problem. I already have to chuck a lot of items before Chapter 8 as-is.

    • @SymbolSoul
      @SymbolSoul Před 5 lety

      @@BigKlingy iirc It's something to do with skipping the visit tutorial right?
      edit: Lul just got to the part you mentioned it.

    • @CommanderWiggins
      @CommanderWiggins Před 5 lety +1

      The pheeesh I just started playing PoR, I thought it was an emulation mistake or something.

  • @TheAustin1
    @TheAustin1 Před 3 lety +7

    I'm going to say it right now this game deserves a remake

  • @MemesToa
    @MemesToa Před 3 lety +5

    Can we just take a moment to appreciate some of the internal flavor text (bottom-right corner) for the unused characters?
    *Greil:* Talent: Axes, just axes. Dislikes "the chains of authority." Plot twist: Greil is a closet anarchist.
    *Sigrun:* Hobbies: Checking up on Sanaki. Talent: Home-cooked meals. Values: Lady Sanaki. Likes: Loyalty. Dislikes: Whatever causes Sanaki grief... Sigrun is now in the running for best Tellius mom.
    *Caineghis:* Talent: Behaving rationally. 'Nuff said.

    • @BigKlingy
      @BigKlingy  Před 3 lety

      All this info comes from the artbook. Sadly Radiant Dawn's didn't this info for most characters, would've been interesting to see what Lekain's were.

  • @LittleMisZorua
    @LittleMisZorua Před 5 lety +7

    The Magic1 battle them could’ve been intended for the unused berserk staff. I’m not sure if status staves are in the tellius games, let alone have their own themes, but that’s my guess

  • @danielm.5078
    @danielm.5078 Před 5 lety +13

    1:00 "Longlongbow". Well then.
    2:50 Maybe they had plans for him to be a hidden unlockable character?
    15:30 Early plan for her to be evil/get possessed?
    27:15 Speaking of evil/possessed looking.
    A shame that they seemed to know what they were doing with RD's plot yet didn't bother to really foreshadow the divine aspects a whole lot.

    • @BigKlingy
      @BigKlingy  Před 5 lety +4

      1:00 And its Japanese name is Ballefleche, so the internal name makes even less sense.
      2:50 Probably for the Trial Maps.
      15:30 Some others have suggested that. Maybe during the Serenes Arc.
      27:15 I almost wonder if they were going to have you fight zombie Herons during the Serenes Forest chapters.
      The whole Yune thing did come out of nowhere, although the divine aspects themselves didn't. The only foreshadowing to Yune was the bird, and there's nothing to indicate Yune isn't more than an ordinary bird until 3-E, and even then her being a god wouldn't be most people's first guess.
      Don't know if I've mentioned this to you before, but imo I still like this reveal better than the start of Xenoblade 1's 3rd act. Here, while Yune herself is out of nowhere, they still made it pretty clear that a god getting involved in the plot was a possibility, ever since PoR mentioned the sealed Dark God. In Xenoblade, the divine aspects aren't really hinted at until they start happening, and take the story in a totally different direction to what it was before.

    • @danielm.5078
      @danielm.5078 Před 5 lety +2

      I meant "divine aspects" more in general; you had the Dark God sealed in Lehran's Medallion and a couple mentions of Ashera in PoR (I believe), but basically the rest of the mythology is left until the last 1/4 of RD. It was at least something, which is better than Xenoblade 1's nothing. I think it would've been better if you heard bits of the creation myth in PoR to better set things up at least. (I think you may have mentioned it to me before, but before the RD playthrough)

    • @BigKlingy
      @BigKlingy  Před 5 lety +2

      There are bit of PoR's world's backstory here-and-there in support conversations, which is kind of the problem. PoR seems to be set up assuming players would see certain supports, like Ike and Soren (Soren has a sudden attitude change at one point in the plot that happens to coincide with when one of his supports with Ike becomes available, not doing that support makes his behaviour come across as an asspull) and Lethe and Jill. (Foreshadows a lot of the issues with Begnion and the Three Heroes that'd come up in RD)
      I like PoR's support system and think it's one of the few FE games that avoids "support-story dissonance", but it might go too far in the opposite direction, resulting in a lot of important story being missed if you don't do the "right" supports.

    • @weridplusho
      @weridplusho Před 2 lety

      @@BigKlingy It may be for replayability reasons. By changing your supports you get something a little different each time you play and that expands the world/characters. But the story's canon has to be with certain characters, so they chose them without forcing it on the player. Since the trial maps require a lot of playthroughs, it's almost guaranteed you'd check every support and thus get the story.
      It's creative if not incredibly time consuming.

  • @CommanderOshawott
    @CommanderOshawott Před 3 lety +4

    "Heather" sounds like an early concept for Meg, Brom's daughter, who joins the Dawn Brigade as an unpromoted Sword Knight

  • @JustJohn816
    @JustJohn816 Před 4 lety +2

    How crazy
    The video that started me wanting to play this game! I love unused content, and I enjoyed your p3 unused content vid, so I checked this out over multiple sittings and I got interested in the game! And here we are
    Oh man im so excited to watch this again with context

  • @renownerd.276
    @renownerd.276 Před 4 lety +3

    Wow, my friend started with four iron swords last month and I Didn't know why. . .Now I do! Thanks! Great video, you have a good voice for this sort of thing.

  • @FlipzMCL
    @FlipzMCL Před 5 lety +6

    Hmm, you know, that Equip Beast skill makes me wonder if the developers originally intended for Laguz to use weapons in their humanoid forms and then automatically gain and equip their beast from weapons upon transformation.

  • @swiftbuizel
    @swiftbuizel Před 5 lety +7

    Maybe Melty and Heather we're early forms of Marcia and Makalov considering that they are the same classes, and how they either have a direct relation to Begnion, or join during it's arc. Though this is me trying to think what purpose Heather has in this game.

    • @CrystalGreymon
      @CrystalGreymon Před 5 lety

      I'm wondering if the thought of it is that Heather starts out as a Begnion Knight and later leaves, then turns up as a Thief in Radiant Dawn.

  • @nonimportant
    @nonimportant Před 3 lety +3

    I thought that Ike having 4 iron swords was him panicking and overpacking xDD

  • @mistahjenkins4826
    @mistahjenkins4826 Před rokem +1

    18:08
    "Well, it seems like your helpline has frozen in terror..."

  • @lunaamethyst5724
    @lunaamethyst5724 Před 5 lety +8

    Well we wouldn't get a Fire Emblem sword until 10 years later
    Maybe Black Sanaki would be a "corrupted" version of Sanaki.
    It would be interesting to see what Sanaki is like when she's all grown up. She'll probably be an even better ruler then she is during the game.
    Absolute Move kinda reminds me of the Acrobat skill.

    • @BigKlingy
      @BigKlingy  Před 5 lety +1

      Was in really 10 years until Fates? Wow.
      I've seen that suggested by others. I have a theory that maybe in an early draft she got possessed by the spirits of the Herons in the Serenes Forest chapters.
      Oh right, Acrobat was a thing. I keep forgetting about that skill for some reason, but it could've been pretty useful in games with annoying deserts.

    • @xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx
      @xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx Před 5 lety

      @@BigKlingy
      Fallen Sanaki?

    • @jrhamari
      @jrhamari Před 4 lety

      I noticed that if Black Sanaki was supposed to be a possessed or evil version of Sanaki, Then japan seems to like naming dark versions of characters "black (insert character name here)" Dark Pit was called Black Pit in the Japanese version of Kid Icarus Uprising, and I believe Castlevania Symphony of the Night was supposed to have an possessed version of Maria Renard in an unused ending that I believe was refered to as Black Maria.

  • @dazedgreninja7743
    @dazedgreninja7743 Před 5 lety +10

    Long longbow huh? Would have preferred Long ass bow. But that's just me.

  • @nanto_naku
    @nanto_naku Před 5 lety +6

    I remember seeing Rexcalibur being used in promotional videos of the game, and I was very confused since you couldn't actually use it, I think the video was at a Wal Mart when they used to have demo discs at the stores with trailers and stuff.

    • @BigKlingy
      @BigKlingy  Před 5 lety +4

      I think Serenes Forest said at one point that Rexcalibur was shown off in promos.

    • @victorhale
      @victorhale Před 2 lety

      @@BigKlingy i actually found out that theres a default set of items that load for a map, and if you force the game to go to endgame, soren starts the chapter with rexcalibur

  • @NugeSmashFE
    @NugeSmashFE Před 5 lety +12

    First playthrough with Assassin Sothe was so much fun. I miss Action Replay shenanigans.

    • @BigKlingy
      @BigKlingy  Před 5 lety +9

      Assassin Sothe can end up pretty good thanks to Blossom, and not having to pay for locks is a plus. Shame that, without hacking, Sothe has an invisible "I can't promote" skill assigned to him.

    • @NugeSmashFE
      @NugeSmashFE Před 5 lety +3

      @@BigKlingy Agreed. The code I used was weird though. It removed a ton of restrictions including Ike's and Volke's auto promotion and allowed things like all bow wielders being able to equip Longbows. It also deleted Blossom from his skills so I had to generate a new one and re-equip it.

  • @karabirb
    @karabirb Před 5 lety +4

    Huh, never realized Ike starting with all those swords was a glitch... though, now that I think about it, it sure as hell doesn’t seem intentional haha. Interesting stuff!

  • @TerryKashat
    @TerryKashat Před 3 lety +2

    The chants for stat boosts would have been amazing.

  • @victorhale
    @victorhale Před 4 lety +3

    Ok so I recently found a tool called FE9 Editor that lets you see classes, stats, and a randomizer function. The interesting thing being, cephiran_fake. So cephiran_fake is the model used for chapter 10. And the bishop class you posted seems to be when he reappears at the end of the game. Although it’s just for completion.

  • @robinksuo2929
    @robinksuo2929 Před 2 lety +2

    I've only seen this video 2 years later but the iron sword glitch is really interesting because I played both NTSC and PAL versions of Path of Radiance, I realized that ike doesn't have 4 iron swords during my PAL play through but I didn't give it too much thought.

  • @lashs5311
    @lashs5311 Před 5 lety +3

    Oh, I remember the 4 starter Iron Sword glitch, it happened to me when I was a child lmao, totally didn't know it was a glitch at that time!

  • @jsilvuh6194
    @jsilvuh6194 Před 5 lety +3

    Oh wow, I didn't know about not-Heather and Melty (most of the unused characters, for that matter!). Them being where the stats of Tanith's reinforcements are stored does make sense to me, though.
    Some of the unused support combinations would have been amazing to have. Actually, there exists a Tumblr page consisting of fanmade supports for the unused combinations, most of which I found pretty well written: four-loose-screws.tumblr.com/post/168203153705/fe-path-of-radiance-the-lost-supports
    18:10 That's amazing.

  • @zekdom
    @zekdom Před 5 lety +4

    My Path of Radiance Ike carries four iron swords every time I start a new game. Heh, I didn’t know that was a glitch.

    • @Matsuna13
      @Matsuna13 Před 4 lety +1

      This glitch only exist in the US version. The PAL version fixed this

  • @victorhale
    @victorhale Před 5 lety +2

    I didn’t think until now but there is something interesting about rexcalibur. If you use the Level Modifier Code and go to either the Test Map or Endgame Soren will automatically have S rank in Wind tome and Have Rexcalibur equipped. No other codes need to be activated for this

  • @PumpkinFox
    @PumpkinFox Před 5 lety +3

    Well you could technically see Leanne's status screen by going onto Ike in the same chapter and pressing A on him to see who he's carrying.

  • @Gray137
    @Gray137 Před 3 lety +3

    I think Stefan suffers from the cut supports to because he's a enigma in the game and I would have loved a fleshed out character with back story

  • @mgmakaveli8784
    @mgmakaveli8784 Před 10 měsíci

    This was a really good video

  • @SomeAsian
    @SomeAsian Před 5 lety +5

    I just learned that Camilla's Spirit was Corrin and NOT Olimar, like I said earlier.
    I will never trust my friend's word ever again.

    • @BigKlingy
      @BigKlingy  Před 5 lety +1

      It didn't make any sense being Olimar, so I'm relieved to hear that's not the case.

  • @NotThatUser
    @NotThatUser Před 5 lety +5

    9000th subscriber!
    Yahoo!

    • @BigKlingy
      @BigKlingy  Před 5 lety +2

      Congrats! (Never thought I'd get this many subs though)

  • @bigbigchungusbigchungusbig1117

    You can see Leanne's stats in 17-3. Just press a on Ike's stat screen and it will show you the stats of the traveler.

  • @AlejandroRodolfoMendez
    @AlejandroRodolfoMendez Před 5 lety +1

    maybe chaos and big magic were planed to if ashanard release yune as in other games that you fight a dark being. and even deginsea or his son would help. also since there was a lot of wild heron, you could use it not for dance but for stats. but it would be hard to get.

  • @chillguygaming420
    @chillguygaming420 Před 3 lety +1

    Yo the 4 iron swords glitch happened to me and I thought it was just apart of the game

  • @namesecond6186
    @namesecond6186 Před 5 lety +3

    There's a lot of really interesting information here. Black Sanaki sounds really interesting, I wish we could see the full extent of what they were thinking at the time for all of this stuff.
    At first I thought the Heather character could be the basis for Meg, but Meg has Heaven affinity and not Light so I doubt it.

    • @BigKlingy
      @BigKlingy  Před 5 lety

      My only guess is that she was maybe going to appear from the shadows with a darkened portrait and a ??? nametag and dramatically reveal herself at one point. I have no idea.
      CEPHIRAN_FAKE, a.k.a "Good Sephiran", is even weirder.

  • @victorhale
    @victorhale Před 4 lety

    Lastly idk if you paid attention to the arcentral database for cheat codes, but it seems that all the skill scrolls, including impregnable, can be seen in the debug menu. If you go to the Unit(Ike) section, you’ll find a section for items, it seems based on number only, that the slim sword is actually the first sword made in this game. On top of that, upon examining the Japanese version, the debug menu seems to have some altered features. In the Jpn version only, there’s a function in the debug menu that’s Japanese for coordinates, but it’s description says “Default Help Message.” It’s function takes you back to the menu where you seen Unit(Ike). Also yes there is a Japanese Debug Menu discovered by myself, however like the English version, the code seems to be the same coding as the English version, but different addresses for the function. Like the English version it’s further ported from the PAL Version.

  • @BroverKillSauce
    @BroverKillSauce Před 3 lety +2

    The Black Knight not attacking you back in chapter 24, is that a Japanese version exclusive feature? I remember playing the American version on the Gamecube, and He counter attacks, which is SUPER annoying because He can easily kill you.

    • @SkippyKairos
      @SkippyKairos Před 3 lety

      The pacifist Black Knight that doesn’t attack Ike appears in a scripted fight once chapter 24 is completed. If you try attacking the Black Knight during the chapter or if he’s in range, he will attack you

  • @jedisalsohere
    @jedisalsohere Před 11 měsíci

    I think Devdan's unused escape quote secured him as my absolute favourite Tellius character.
    While~♪ whistling~♪

  • @fangslime
    @fangslime Před 5 lety +3

    Funny, I always thought Ike starting with 4 Iron Swords was intentional. When Ike gets the Regal Sword, Mist says something about it being the first sword he was given that wasn't a hand-me-down.

    • @BigKlingy
      @BigKlingy  Před 5 lety

      It's definitely not, but I can see why people who'd only played the US version would think that way.

  • @sndragracingfilms1685
    @sndragracingfilms1685 Před 4 lety

    Random question... if Dheginsea had appeared in gameplay for Path of Radiance, what do you think his stats would be?

  •  Před rokem

    I'm trying to make a save file w/ all charactes and bosses w/ AR code. Wich chapter does Zelguious appered ?

  • @greenearth7433
    @greenearth7433 Před 5 lety +2

    Thanks CZcams recommendations

  • @AquaLantern
    @AquaLantern Před 5 lety +1

    3:35 Ha, I love the little hand-stand he does after his crit lands xD 26:16 I like that look on her. She looks a lot like Seph, though with a red cape and purple hair. Even after all he did, maybe she still looks up to him enough to emulate his look when she grows up? :)

    • @BigKlingy
      @BigKlingy  Před 5 lety

      3:35 It's very similar to Ike's crit pose, I think a lot of Greil's Hero animations were ported over to Ike's Lord.
      26:16 That's an interesting point.

  • @GaeaRage0798
    @GaeaRage0798 Před 4 lety +2

    45:45 Who would have thought that Haru's 2nd Tier Persona turned out to be the Godess of Order.

    • @BigKlingy
      @BigKlingy  Před 4 lety +2

      They both come from mythology, Ashera is from Asherah, a Semitic/Akaadian goddess, while Astarte is Caananite and I think is the same entity as Ishtar.

  • @zoroark5714
    @zoroark5714 Před 3 lety +1

    So in Fire Emblem Heroes Dheginsea has a Breath weapon called Blackfire Breath I don't know if it's a callback to the Black Breath weapon or not but I thought I'll share it here.

  • @voltron77
    @voltron77 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Actually, the blue 1 use Laguz stones are used in the Japanese exclusive maniac mode by ravens in the desert chapter where you get Stefan and if yo usteal from them, you can get them.

    • @BigKlingy
      @BigKlingy  Před 7 měsíci

      I found that out eventually, I think I mention it in the Radiant Dawn unused content video.

    • @voltron77
      @voltron77 Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@BigKlingy Yeah i found out too.

  • @maskedtime64
    @maskedtime64 Před 3 lety +1

    I remember having a really hard with easy mode and now I find out that those damn dragons were maniacs. Welp

  • @HeartHeroDE
    @HeartHeroDE Před 5 lety

    Nice video but it would be better if there would also be links to some of the sources you used. Since I analyze a lot of FE9 code structure lately it would have been interesting to see who provided some of the information.

    • @BigKlingy
      @BigKlingy  Před 5 lety +1

      I listed the websites I found this info from in the description. I've added links now.

    • @HeartHeroDE
      @HeartHeroDE Před 5 lety +1

      @@BigKlingy Thank you very much. I appreciate the effort of providing links for the sources.

    • @BigKlingy
      @BigKlingy  Před 5 lety

      I wanted to make sure I did that anyway. I wanted to avoid coming across like I found all this info myself, since that's definitely not true.

  • @Kryptnyt
    @Kryptnyt Před 5 lety +1

    The blue laguz stone is used in Maniac mode, given to enemy units so that they could have stones you couldn't easily steal for yourself

    • @BigKlingy
      @BigKlingy  Před 5 lety

      That's been pointed out to me. I'm going to mention that in the RD unused video.

  • @anyogambito4406
    @anyogambito4406 Před 5 lety +1

    That use of the image of 2 Spidermans pointing at each other always gets a chuckle out of me!
    Also, my goodness! Adult Sanaki looks really freaking pretty!
    On the topic of this unused "Black Sanaki", I theorise that this was going to be either (Theory 1) Sanaki under some sort of possession or brainwashing, or (Theory 2) A straight up clone of Sanaki.

    • @BigKlingy
      @BigKlingy  Před 5 lety

      The only reason I did that was because I saw Into the Spider Verse recently.
      It's interesting they still have concept art for that.
      A lot of people have brought up possession. Maybe she touched the medallion at one point. Or maybe Reyson actually used the Forbidden Magic and a possessed Sanaki was the boss of Chapter 17?

    • @victorhale
      @victorhale Před 2 lety

      @@BigKlingy he did mention the Dirge of Ruin. Which implies dark magic.

  • @lisasemarron5413
    @lisasemarron5413 Před 5 lety +1

    Great video as always

  • @nancestpasmoi1834
    @nancestpasmoi1834 Před 2 lety +2

    Nephenie and Mia, my two MVP could had a support?
    that sucks...

  • @Flametix
    @Flametix Před 5 lety +1

    There's a new section about unused bonus exp goals on the tcrf page, not much changed otherwise though.

    • @BigKlingy
      @BigKlingy  Před 5 lety

      Thanks for pointing that out. Some of them are really interesting, like the implication that you would've had a second chance to recruit Shinon in Chapter 22 if you missed him in 18. And that routing and defeating the boss in chapters where they weren't required were worth BEXP.

  • @KEZAstraYT
    @KEZAstraYT Před 3 lety

    you can actually see leannes stats as soon as ike carries her just by pressing A on ikes stat screen at least in the PAL version

  • @xacmashe3852
    @xacmashe3852 Před 3 lety +1

    I noticed Soren doesn't have any unused supports.
    They really only gave Soren supports only with his boyfriend and a fucking desert hermit that you *will not* get unless you already know exists.

  • @CosmicToad5000
    @CosmicToad5000 Před 5 lety

    CZcams recommendations strike again. Glad to have found this after recently finishing the tellius series for the first time.
    Looking forward to RD and seeing if there's anything about Largo or a playable beserker. They did Largo as bad as Scarlet in fates.

    • @BigKlingy
      @BigKlingy  Před 5 lety

      Sadly, nothing on Largo there. RD's unused character data is a lot less interesting.

    • @CosmicToad5000
      @CosmicToad5000 Před 5 lety

      BigKlingy wow, that's surprising. I always thought that the devs gave up on creating a player unit beserker class midway due to some sort of issue and benched largo because of it (still don't see why they didn't just make largo a fighter in RD instead, not too much of a different class) Certainly would've been nice to have him in the last Royal knights chapter, since no one can really take a hit beaides maybe Geoffrey. It would be interesting to see whether or not they'd make him playable in a remake of FE10.

    • @BigKlingy
      @BigKlingy  Před 5 lety

      It think, sadly, they always intended Largo to not be playable in the sequel.

  • @topbowgunner
    @topbowgunner Před 2 lety

    When it came to ike and 4 iron swords i was thinking that what he start with when i was a kid when i first saw that

  • @SkippyKairos
    @SkippyKairos Před 3 lety +2

    Let’s take a moment to appreciate that Berserk Staffs went unused. Berserk Ike and Laguz royals would have been a nightmare to put up with

    • @BigKlingy
      @BigKlingy  Před 3 lety +1

      And the Berserk Staff was never seen again. And no-one mourned.

  • @AbnormalAdeptOfficial
    @AbnormalAdeptOfficial Před 5 lety

    How do I recruit the unused characters? Been trying with are codes but couldn't get those mentioned in the video

    • @BigKlingy
      @BigKlingy  Před 5 lety

      I can't help you there, I have zero experience with hacking this game.

  • @Eric-gy5lt
    @Eric-gy5lt Před 5 lety +2

    I've always found it interesting that game developers left a lot more unused content in their games back then than they do now. Probably because hacking wasn't as common as it is now and they never thought people would see it.

    • @BigKlingy
      @BigKlingy  Před 5 lety

      Serenes Forest was documenting unused content for ages, though probably because its founder, VincentASM, was a hacker. (His name gives that away)

  • @spiderlover678
    @spiderlover678 Před 3 lety +2

    Ah yes, vigilance. The skill that gives you big ear energy.

  • @dylansturdivant5404
    @dylansturdivant5404 Před 4 lety

    Maybe since Tanith's reinforcements uses Melty it was intended for a paladin to have the reinforce skill to summon sword knights with Heather's bases.

  • @proaqua
    @proaqua Před 5 lety +1

    When i played POR i didnt even realize the iron swords ike gets was a glitch. I just thought he wanted to be well stocked lol

    • @BigKlingy
      @BigKlingy  Před 5 lety

      I lot of people don't know this. If you've only played the US version, it makes sense that you wouldn't know.

  • @stackpolian
    @stackpolian Před 5 lety

    while rexflame is useable, it can crash the game sometimes with animations on if you notice the slowdown on hit. rexcalobur has no issue like that so its weird for a fully functional weapon to just be omitted.