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It’s another bonus mini-sode! This time we’re breaking down the Korvold “Savage Hunger” Eldraine Brawl precon and discussing which 40 cards we would add to upgrade it into a full-on Commander deck.
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FYI viscera is a real word by itself, it basically means blood/guts/etc. So the idea of Viscera Seer is that it is using the entrails of the creature you sacrificed to divine the future (Scry) .
And on that note, "Eviscerate" is a synonym for "Disembowel".
@@MGlBlaze so to eviscerate is to make something into viscera? Nice, I was familiar with the form of eviscerate, but know I know how that form originated. Viscera is probably latin?
That is the most metal thing I’ve ever heard
@@alexmartin3433 In particular this practice was called haruspicy with practitioners being called a haruspex. This is also what Grim Haruspex is flavored after (which incidentally makes the Ugin's Fate promo more accurate to the actual card than the original printing, as haruspices did not deal with brain matter).
@@NJKoopmeiners it comes from evict+viscera
Or take it off from inside of someone.
I like the irony of Aristocratic noble turning into a voracious dragon. Super flaworfull both story and mechanic-wise. Also, would like to mention him as potential commander for Jund Dragons, since he is fairly cheap and, unlike other options, offers card advantage.
I like how wizards tries really hard to get people to play brawl ny releasing brawl precon decks and all people do is turn those brawl precons into commander decks xD
@siborgstare nobody like tiny leaders either.
They eventually got it, since they will release a ton of commander products in 2020.
Rip brawl haha
Can the next game knights be the precons then the updated precons with your suggestions to see how they effect the deck.
I'd love that episode(s)
That's a great idea!
They already plan on using the precons next episode
Brass's bounty is insane in the deck it often can be for free draw 7 or more
Well Scapeshift can also do a rly insane result and get reliquary tower soo you dont have to drop for handsize
@@Ohdude5 that's good too
Yeah, I love treasure and gold already, and they're extra strong here. Curse of Opulence, Dockside Extortionist, and Revel in Riches are also lovely.
Too bad Dockside now costs like an entire deck.
Ferdi the Tank fucking 20 dollar card lmao
Krav The Unredeemed is an absolutely insane sac outlet for this deck
For another sacrifice outlet; Ashnod's Altar lets you sacrifice a creature for two colourles mana, which is also pretty amazing if you can get a lot of tokens out to sacrifice.
Phyrexian Altar is similar but gives you one mana of any colour instead of two colourless, but it's also more expensive. Not TERRIBLY so, but it's an $18-20 card which is quite a lot to spend on one card if you're playing casually.
Uh guys, I was looking at your list of suggested cards and you list Plaguecrafter as one of the cards to add...
But Plaguecrafter is already in the deck
I replaced it fleshbag marauder. Same mana cost and ETB minus the added discard
JoshtheCrow I would have both plaguecrafter hits the hand which is insanely good
prossh skyraider of kher keep is a perfect add as it has a sac outlet and makes things to sac. prossh would actually be better as the commander but it works in the 99 as well
goodguy shuckle prossh is better for overall power of deck bc combo potential, but doesn't have korvold's value-draw engine
@@wldnrkls i know. prossh is just a fun commander and the fact that its sac works well with korvold makes me want to try it out
jimmy: korvold wins in the classic jund way
me: hold my eggs
2:52
^ thats what I was looking for
So nice to see another Brazilian enjoying command zone
Skipping over Pitiless Plunderer who is Sifter but mana fixing? Especially since you can run both and while some things require creatures, the actual commander is just any permanent. It also helps against wipes as it leaves treasures equal to all the other creatures you control and doesn’t say nontoken so even your spawn and scions set it off.
tamiyos journal could be a good addition for clues and deck searching with enough of them.
Card Name:
Reprocess
Mana Cost:
2 Black Black
Types: Sorcery
Card Text:
Sacrifice any number of artifacts, creatures, and/or lands. Draw a card for each permanent sacrificed this way.
While it does draw a lot of cards here, this will leave you with a hand full of cards but no mana to cast them. It is also very hard to cast on the same turn Korvold is played (9 mana), further diminishing its reliability. Better to run cards like Ashnod's Altar, Phyrexian Altar, Krark-Clan Ironworks or Squandered Resources that give you mana for saccing permanents and draw cards off of Korvold's trigger, which can then actually be played immediately and also fed into the sac outlets, something that's impossible with Reprocess's single-use effect.
These can also be played on earlier turns and thus don't require you to untap with Korvold in play to be impactful. They're also just generally more useful when Korvold isn't in play.
That shirt made me remeber a Stacraft MTG custom deck i made long ago
You guys just described a fair amount of my shattergang brothers
I definitely underrated this Commander. Looks fun
Ugins cradle is quite fun with this deck
I know more printings are coming but Card Kingdom is and has been sold out of all Brawl pre-cons since the cards were revealed. Also, no way these are worth $40 under normal print runs.
I bought this deck and combined my Judith the Scourge Diva and Savra Queen of Golgari both were decent but now it hasn't lost a battle
Viscera is the main organs and squishy bits in the torso. Viscera seer plays on that trope of using objects to read the future or talk to spirits. Like "Read the Bones". Viscera seer is seen in the art with some viscera, using it to scry.
However i will always pronounce it how they used to, because its just spunds better and has a good rhythm
jap, just looked it up, in rome they had ppl who did this (read the future in animal intestines) they were called haruspex, which can also be seen on the card grim haruspex, although that one uses a human brain, hence the grim part
Once upgraded, based on the lists you've done for both brawl and commander,do you guys think the brawl decks or the commander 2019 decks are better? Extremely vague question I know.....
Ok, I've asked this on Prof's channel so I've come here
Can we do a Halloween episode next year with all the guests in a more diabolic form? Like the Instructor and such. I think it would be fun to watch what it would be
Are these Brawl decks going to be available at big box stores? I don't want to pay $45 for a 60 card deck when I paid $42 for my Mystic Intellect commander deck.
They cost $45? Seriously? They should be less than 30
@@kylesavage4525 Yep, on cardkingdom the Kovold deck is $30, Chulane is $40, and the other two are $45. If they were all $25 I feel it would be perfect. The only difference between these decks and Planeswalker decks is the 8 exclusive cards not available in the draft booster packs and the life spinner.
Exactly
I think the decks were below $20 at the start, but the price spiked because of scarcity. Another printrun was announced by WotC though.
Because it “standard legal” dumb
Korvold is also happy just eating an entire Gitrog or Windgrace deck.
Aspect of Mongoose would do well in this deck. Gives Korvold shroud and and has recursion.
I'm actually planning on a Korvold deck with a secret synergy fir Vaevictis Asmadi, so it's a deck filled with recurrable permanent that just don't go away. Just a bunch of creatures, lands and artifact generators to sacrifice to the Dragon lord, particularly (and appropriately) a LOT of treasure.
Josh: LETS ADD VEDALKEN ORRERY.
Say what you want but I'm with him on that card. I put it into every commander deck sooner or later. Instant/flash is extremely good
you probably made this before my comment on the last video, but this video was a lot better. different cards!!! yay. i was ready for the ashnod alter recommendation. spawning pit is very good as well i think justin from "commander vs" showed it is actually good. i would recommend treasures. i don't think that was brought up. the new goblin that makes treasure is really good. turn 4 play that goblin you and you'll get 3+ treasures. next turn play your general and sac the goblin. now you have your general and if they remove him you will still have the draw option.
Id love to see a 4 way match with these brawl creatures as commanders!
Building this deck a year later cause he still good and I loved playing him in brawl in arena during the pandemic thanks guys
Korvold + Tilonalli's summoner ! $.50 addition!
We will see any time soon Josh Kim and Cassious Marsh again ij the show? Those guys are great! 👍
Dockside Extortionist is just insane in this. Also there's Ashnod's Altar, Phyrexian Altar, KCI and my favorite: Squandered Resources. Korvold turns all of these into insane draw engines, pushing the deck beyond regular graveyard/value-stuff and into combo territory.
The card this reminds me of the most is The Gitrog Monster (which also fits nicely in a Korvold deck btw.). Imagine playing a Fetchland, cracking it for a Forest, Crop Rotation (or Elvish Reclaimer) to sac the Forest for another Fetchland and then cracking that for another land of choice. You've just drawn 3 cards for 0 (or 1) mana at instant speed. Add Crucible of Worlds/Ramunap Excavator to the list, maybe even Azusa, Oracle of Mul Daya, Exploration and things get crazy pretty quickly. All of these cards are also great on their own and help you to get Korvold out as fast as possible.
Wasteland, Strip Mine, Lotus Vale, Lotus Field and Glacial Chasm are also pretty good since they replace themselves with Korvold's trigger. Orcish Lumberjack is hands down the best Manadork when it also draws a card for every use. Scapeshift is just insane and will easily draw 5-10 cards by itself if you search for the right lands, World Shaper and Splendid Reclamation can also bring all of your sacrificed lands back.
Another good include are artifacts and enchantments that sac themselves. Lotus Petal, Mishra's Bauble, Urza's Bauble, Nihil Spellbomb, Tormod's Crypt, Seal of Primordium or even just Unbridled Growth all become a lot better if they draw you multiple cards.
Isolanporzellator they said SEVERAL times there were going to be staple cards they weren’t going to mention. Because why bother. They were trying to just mention cards that weren’t obvious and would help get the deck running
@@graysonchristian2668 So what? I merely pointed out good cards to include in the deck that they didn't mention (intentional or not - it doesn't matter).
Not everyone knows every card in magic and not everyone immediately jumps to cards like Lotus Petal as an obvious include for a Korvold deck (as the inclusion rate of only 13% on EDHREC shows).
If you already knew all of these, good for you. Now take your passive agressive bullshit and shove it where it belongs - thanks.
I'm not sure if Korvold can replace Prossh, honestly. On the one hand, Korvold gives you tons to do with your sacrifice stuff, on the other hand, Prossh goes infinite with a mana sac outlet or food chain.
this is the one I want
Love the Protoss shirt josh!
it might seem odd but I think I need a spot on this show for brawl :D
I think crop rotation would good in the deck.
Definitely !
Crop into fetch draw 2 for 1 mana
@@forkspoonstein4524 you get the land untapped so it's essentially free draw 2 and thin your deck by 2
Short and sweet, great video
I'd argue Pitiless Plunderer over Pawn of Ulamog since it does not care about being nontoken AND creates mana of any color, but if we're being honest, you should run both.
Cardkingdom is out of stock right now and overpriced I love you Command Zone, but uh I think until they are back in stock you should talk about just getting the singles you talk about in your videos until then.
Well they want to have these videos aplicable to people whenever they watch them. They want to appeal to the hardcore audience that are subscribed and watch immediatley, just as much as they want to appeal to those who see it later or stumble upon the channel. Also card kingdom sponsors them, so its good etiquette and buissness to promote the latest products. I mean thats probably WHY card kingdom is sold out, because so many content creators push that product
@@EthanKTufts I get that, and I actually love card kingdom myself started shopping there recently and they USUALLY have everything I need. But they are advertising to pre-order the decks, but to be fair and this just came up this was probably recorded two weeks ago when pre-orders were probably just going live too. So there is that.
That's how I felt when they used to advertise the guilds of ravnica sleeves. They're like "oh yeah go to card kingdom get this awesome stuff!" And card kingdom would never restock what they were advertising, and any other third party seller or even amazon wouldn't sell the sleeves for less than 30 - 40 bucks a piece. Very frustrating for a while there lol thankfully you can get them for a reasonable price again, nearly a year later...
These are pretaped weeks in advance...they didn’t know when they made them what would happen
@@graysonchristian2668 Yeah I am well aware I was originally going to put that and then I forgot too.
I loved playing this brawl deck during the arena event
Hey Command Zone, our commander playgroup has hit a little bit of an issue. Where one of our friends have been wanting to use proxies and gold boarded cards in our play group but everybody else doesn’t feel like our group is that casual about this. So I’m asking your opinions about this.
Hey. I'm not the command zone, but this is my opinion / experience.:) I started playing proxies and my friends don't mind until they win me the game. My Suggestion is either agree to use proxies for one kind of cards (for example lands). Or get a proxy for each one of you(depends on the size of your playgroup. I started playing demonic tutor and gave each of my friends I usually play with one aswell.
My play group and I tend to look down on proxies for power level reasons because a player could proxy their entire deck and have an advantage simply due to having high power level cards. I personally wouldn't mind having proxies involved if the player is either new to the game and wanting to familiarize themselves with the format, wanting to test out a brew, owns the cards, but doesn't want to swap out cards from deck to deck, or just can't financially afford the game (although I would set up restrictions.)
@@sainttrish7544 this is a great way to go about it, and this is what our playgroup does too. It works great for testing out decks, and we often do this to make sure concepts work before dumping money into it. i didnt think about using it for cards we own but want to run in multiple decks, that sure would make my life much better, im gonna bring that up this weekend when we play, thanks for the idea! :D
My LGS has a policy about proxies that I quite like - you're allowed a certain number per deck, and up to a certain cost. So basically proxying 50% of your deck and / or really expensive cards is gonna be a problem, but if you're missing that one card that really makes the deck better, but is only a bulk rare that's about half the price of an individual teaspoon, then you're fine. I get that some people use proxies to test cards out in their deck before buying them, so having a cost restriction can be a problem, but let's be honest, the people who proxy moxen or Tabernacles aren't doing it "to see if it works in the deck" are they?
@@Ceracio my group doesn't play standard, we play commander and modern. So it's usually more along the lines of "this new card came out, I'm gonna proxy it in to replace some other cards to see how it works with deck before I buy it."
how about board wipes??
Could you guys do another episode of extra turns? Maybe with the brawl decks or more homebrew goodies?
Falkenrath aristocrat would be fun in this deck. As well as blood Artist. Agent of Zendakar for all the tastey foods. Dreadhord invasion.
This video has such a heavy focus the creature side, but creature-based Korvold is weaker than Prossh. Non-creature based Korvold is where it's at.
That's my plan, I'm building a lland sac deck that focuses on Gitrog and Borborygmos.
I think it's better to just throw Korvold in Prossh and get all the draw triggers when you sac armies of kobolds. It's easy enough to tutor it up.
Honestly surprised they didn't mention prossh as a 99. Could be an instant 6 cards, 6 counters. I'll definitely be inter changing korvold and prossh between games.
Scapeshift sounds reaaaally good here. Sacrifice a lot of lands and get a lot of lands that also sacrifice themselves and suddenly Korvold is lethal.
The lands you find with scapeshift enter the battlefield tapped :)
I think buying Lord windgrace and adding in korvold would be a better deck in edh
Using korvold as thhe commander would be good for that honestly. Korvold applies allot of pressure while you just play gitrog lands plus red
@@ddzthejugganinja you could do that, the deck is pretty self sufficient and has plenty of sac outlets
@@eduardop727 yeah I just find most of the walker commanders really squishy and they done do enough the moment they hit the field. There are exceptions however, the saheeli deck is real good lol
@@ddzthejugganinja Saheeli is probably the squishiest honestly, you need her out early before you can get anything good to defend her. In general I've found the best thing to do with Planeswalker commanders is to constantly wipe the board in some way. Deny combat, goad, bounce, destroy, etc. Getting 2 turns of a Planeswalker is usually all you need, everything else is icing
a bit on the pricier side budget wise but scapeshift would be crazy with him
I got a very 'Diet Prossh' vibe from this commander. How do you guys think he holds up in comparison? Is your deck worse for not running Prossh on the command zone instead?
Prossh is the comp deck that has one consistent win con(being food chain). It is technically better but Korvold has the higher degree of power outside that insane combo and just seems more fun to play cuz your not making everyone justs it there till you steal the win with an overused combo
I didn't expect well constructed, intelligent replies. Thanks!
Easily the most anticipated commander for me. I’ve already been looking at my LGS for some good sac cards.
So far I’ve been looking forward to “destructive force” and “furnace celebration”.
I didn't know about Furnace Celebration, but I love it. Especially with Ashnod's Altar
Andrew Rudulph yea, I didn’t know about it either till I started going through my LGS’s selection looking for stuff to put in with Korvald. Seems like it could do some work.
what about the black ixlan enchantment when you have 20 or more treasures you win the game?
These are great. So many ideas for commander deck.
Thanks!
"feast of the unicorn" obviously the best card for this deck.
how do the nontoken sac outlets work if its more of an aristocrate tokens?
And Pitiless Plunderer?
No intro singing?
Put ashnods altar in there now!
No mention of Vaevictis Asmadi?
Now I'm curious what is the cheapest color pairing/triplets (Hopefully Grixis, love those colors)
Calovr it’s Bant. Grixis is one of the most expensive color combo
8:29 isn't this an infinite combo with korvold? As I see it, you can just sacrifice the tokens to create new tokens, which you sacrifice over and over again until korvold has enough power to defeat the opponent in a single hit?
Nontoken
@@liamw.1313 oh right. totally forgot.
Am I the only one not super thrilled about this commander? Seems like a slightly better Vaevictus Asmadi without the control/randomness
I'm with you man...If Korvold was a 6/6 (or even maybe 5/5) I would be keen but as a 4/4 with a sac ability it's kind of lame.
Léo’s got broads in Atlanta.
No mention of Mazirek? Sad.
Great episode!
Yeahhh!!! I wanted this One! Thanks
The "Each play sacks three creatures" is a really poor board wipe vs decks that create a lot of tokens and such.
calling it .5 board wipe is to generous in my mind.
GreatgoatonFire taste of death is meant hurt the enemy, while helping you.
Modified C19 vs converted to EDH brawl please.
Cant wait for the alela deck!!
Nooo! Do the Faerie Schemes one next!
My sister watching memes while I was watching this, freshavacado blasted while the intro was saying “welcom to the command..FRESHAVACADO!”
im surprised gitrog was not mentioned
What a deck
I really want to make a Korvold deck where I have a combo of Korvold, Omnath LoR, and scapeshift
Then just play Lord Windgrace.
Perilous forays?
Glad I preordered this. It’s sold out in so many places in the UK and it’s like doubled in price
Korvold seems better in the 99 of a Jund Aristocrats deck than as a lead singer.
@Jake Brose Prossh or Sek'kuar
Yahenni grows when OTHER people's creatures die. Does no one read the card's text?
No one said yahenni would grow, they were saying saccing things to take yahenni causes korvald to grow
JUND EM
Greater Good?
no singing in the intro, am sad
So is Korvold available to get in boosters? Very concerned
No he isn’t
Guessing the next game knights episode is a brawl episode I guess.
hope not
Please say sike
I really dpubt it because they have a specific method of introducing decks on gameknights. They always do deck techs and deck evaluations AFTER they play them in game knights. This is probably so that the decks' cards, playstyles, and goals, arent spoiled before the gameplay. They have never played a deck on gameknights that was previously discussed down to the individual cards and "STATS stats stats" of the deck.
Oof
@@EthanKTufts you're forgetting when they played archenemy, game night, unhinged and two headed giant.
New extra turns when?
Daarigaz Reincarnated is expensive, but I think he could work well in this deck.
Vavictas asmadi the dire is a bit better
Yo great content as always
i am glad this is "Brawl to C0mmander Upgrade" - not vice versa :)
Because that would be a downgrade
Viscera means intestines.
Btw, Plaguecrafter is already in the precon, so a Fleshbag Marauder could be added instead for a very similar effect.
and Slum Reaper along with Innocent Blood.
Hey jimmy want some coffee jelly XD
Uffff that was Great. Are you gonna do the dame with Knight's charge?
video starts at 6:00 ...
Bring merchant for game knights!!!!!!!!
Here is how you up grade this into a EDH deck, slide him into the 99 of Prossh =P sac 6 kobolds draw 6 cards make a huge flying dragon