Speedrunning 10 DIFFERENT Versions of Super Mario Bros.
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- čas přidán 27. 12. 2021
- There are a LOT of versions of the original Super Mario Bros. But they're not all the same. In fact, some of them are QUITE a bit different. Here's a look at the 10 most interesting versions of SMB1!
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Which version was your favorite? :)
All Stars
Original
You 💕
The Gameboy version looks painful
Super Neck-less bros is my favorite Kosmic!
Jk: all-stars is my favorite one, btw Super mario bros achievements when?
Mario saved the Princess from one side, Luigi saved her from the other.
This can mean so many wrong thing
and all the enemies on Luigi's side had their brothers on the Mario's side
it's canon
Um... I think Mario just set the whole thing up to see if Luigi would make a move on his lady.
@@dimitreze would be great if all the koopas, hammer bros, and bowsers jumped just a little bit higher (but not when running apparently)
We call that a spit roast where I'm from.
In the words of Jan Misali, the Game Boy version is "a port where you can finally play these classics on a screen that's too small to actually see the game".
Honestly I’d be interested in seeing Kosmisc and other runners’ views on the topic of what counts as a mainline game.
The toki pona word jan should not be capitalized.
louisng114 pona! that is correct, though I don’t really expect to see many toki pona speakers on the internet it’s always a surprise
@@taken_over3416 kosmic did do the first and so far only as far as i know mainline mario marathon so yeah
@@taken_over3416 you can read my comment in the comment section of that video :)
The All-Stars version still looks so good. I adore the art style
same
It's internet tradition to use those sprites if you're making a Mario fangame
Same
@@CLASSYTUXYFGA i associate the graphics and music more strongly with early fangames than the actual game lol
what are some fan games that use those assets
I love how the Game Boy Colour version actually has a world map.
Color*
@@RWL2012 Not everyone lives in the US. And yes I did just figure out that its actually called "color" outside of US too but its just that Im not used to using "color"without the U
@@tjeerdtrekkie1030 One could argue that since it's the name of a console the spelling without the U is the only correct version
@@counterfeit1148 like I said I figured that out after writing the comment.
@@tjeerdtrekkie1030 Ah, I misunderstood the last half of your comment
The amount of missing mushrooms in this video is astounding
Just like real life!
The movement is simply too optimized at this point etc. etc.
He’s too good tbh
I can honestly say I'm not sure this particular record will ever be beaten.
You can't beat that!
@@EebstertheGreat that's what people have always said!
IT'S WR HOLDER @Bismuth OMGGGGG
Every copy of Super Mario Bros. is personalized.
Love the profile picture
🫠
Objection: this was made before ai, and there are walkthroughs (dont woosh me)
@@DueNorthGaming ofc u do
To fit the game onto the GBA's screen, they chose to cut out every fourth line of pixels. The result is shoulderless Mario.
I personally first played the game on 3DS Virtual Console, and right now my go-to is Switch Online. Hopefully I can get an NES to play it on that in the future, I already bought the cartridge.
RIP Super Mario Bros. 35 version :(
The other thing the GBA version does is that instead of just cutting those lines, it alternates which lines are cut. Because of the slow LCD response time on the GBA, there's no flickering, it just looks a bit blurry.
I prefer shoulderless Mario to radium poisoned Mario. Don't look that up.
The flickering being smoothed out by the LCD is a cheap-ass way of doing a hardware-assisted downsample filter. Fun fact, huge numbers of DS games relied on that to not have visible flicker as the screens flipped between 15 and 18 bit color on every other frame.
I've got an NES Classic and it works pretty well
@@NinetyLegos I got it too
I'm actually a speed runner (and current world record holder) of Speed Mario Bros., which is the version found in Ultimate NES Remix. I've never seen many of the top SMB players acknowledge its existence, so I was very excited to see you finally play it. It's certainly a difficult game to master due to the speed, but eventually you can actually do a lot of the tricks found in any% SMB. It's a joy to see someone as skilled as you struggle as much as I did when I first played it though.
No ur not
@@explosivetater7198I am though
@@calebphillips6928 bro ur super power is acting tough
Okay
@@explosivetater7198 I'll go confirm
Timestamps:
0:21 SMB 1 (Super Mario Bros. NES)
1:47 SMB 2 (Super Mario Bros. FDS)
4:46 SMB 3 (Super Mario Bros. All Stars)
7:45 SMB 4 (Super Mario Bros. Deluxe)
13:40 SMB 5 (Super Mario Bros. Game Boy Advance)
16:17 SMB 6 (Super Mario Bros. Animal Crossing)
18:22 SMB 7 (Super Luigi Bros.)
22:54 SMB 8 (Speed Mario Bros.)
29:17 SMB 9 (Super Mario Bros. 35)
30:28 SMB 10 (Super Mario Bros. 25)
Ty
Once you get used to it, the Game Boy Color version is pretty fun with the red coins. It really adds to the gameplay. Would be great if they could port it to the Nintendo and have speed runs around collecting the red coins.
That was the game I played when I was a kid. All these years I saw speedrunners blitzing through hammer bros and thought they made it look so easy. You cannot imagine how happy I was to see that the version I was playing on made hammer bros the nightmare I remembered them being.
port it to the nintendo what
@@darkmoondeath00 Oh wow, I can't believe it I called it the Nintendo. That's like a blast to the past. Back in the day, probably even into the Super Nintendo era, it was common to refer to the NES as Nintendo.
@@inlovewithi my parents still called the Wii "the nintendo"
@@x-fun3149 Aren't they all the Nintendo? I unironically call them all that in general conversation. I only use the individual names when talking about more than one Nintendo...
This video brings me back to the days where I would try to speedrun Super Mario Bros Deluxe using strats I found on CZcams for the NES version. It went about as well as you'd expect.
Same! I remember being absolutely shocked at how people ran through piranha plants, going to try it on my copy of SMBDX, failing, and wondering what wizardry they knew that I didn't. Turns out the magic was just a different version. Looking back, I'm surprised it didn't stand out to me more how much less I could see on-screen at a time. I just went on assuming the two versions were identical for some reason.
@@GlowingOrangeOoze I don't think I understood the concept of remakes and ports back then, using an entirely different engine. The game had similar graphics, so it was the same game pretty much in my mind. I also tried repeatedly to enter the minus world. It never worked.
@@cubedmelons876 me toooooo
@@cubedmelons876 your profile is cool
31:12 HE MISSED THE MUSHROOM 3 TIMES IN TOTAL!!!
growing up, i only had a GBC, so Deluxe was just the version of SMB that I knew. I struggled mightily with that game, and later in life, when i watched people play nes SMB, i was like "wow this really doesn't look that hard, why was i so bad?"
a few years ago, i played deluxe again and that game is DIFFICULT. the fact that you can only see six feet in front of your face is terrifying, and it leads to such moments as blind jumps in 8-1. it's awful. it's great.
Love how Kosmic took the "secret path" in the fds version and then instead of quitting at -3 he played 8 world in 2nd quest, also nice to know the double death glitch, want to know if it lets the player have 255 lives by dying twice with 0 lifes left
it's signed so no
it doesn't remove 2 lives, just plays the death jingle twice
@@andrewzhang8512 So if you have 127 lives and get a 1UP, will it overflow to -128?
Love the profile picture
@@EebstertheGreat yeah and you just game over if it's a negative number i think
The Animal Crossing version seems to be designed to look like a nicer version of how it would look on our old TVs back in the late 80s and early 90s. Sort of like applying a VHS filter, but it's NES filtered.
if you really want that NES look, you gotta add in all those aritfacting dots :P nothing quite like a picture that looks like it's been through a paper shredder
4:09 Gonna grab a mushroom to make sure I don't die anymore
*Dies twice while trying to grab a mushroom*
Seeing a professional Mario player get dunked on by Mario Bros Deluxe makes me feel less bad about sucking at this game as a kid, haha. I remember those specific hammer bros to this day. Nightmarish
I mean yeah, the screen is WAY too zoomed in, and Mario physics are tweaked.
Same, I remember getting stuck at those exact hammer bros forever as a kid. Still good memories of the game tho.
I am a pro at Super Mario Bros, and the Deluxe's screen was much to skinny and zoomed in to play effectively, making even the first level hard.
It was absolutely delightful watching you play Super Mario Bros Deluxe on Game Boy Colour, because that was one of the first video games I ever owned! There are extra modes and stuff (you can race against Boo, which could be fun for a speed runner!), red coins to find, and secret Yoshis to rescue too! Could be a fun thing for you to mess around with ;)
Same! I grew up on that copy of the game (I was born only slightly too late to get an NES when it was new), so until a few years ago when I started practicing on Switch Online, that was *the* version of SMB that I knew. So nice to see SMB:Deluxe get some respect from streamers; I've literally never seen it in a video before today. Also, could be flawed memory, but I'm pretty sure I have pulled off power-up jumps on SMB:Deluxe; it's just way tighter on the timing for some reason that I don't understand.
We're kindred spirits, one of my first games too!
omg, it was one of my earliest games too!
i had it mixed up for super mario world cuz i was a kid who didn't know better, haha...
still pretty fun though!
That was my first videogame ever, so much memories
There’s no Game Boy Colour.
I love these challenges where your skill/muscle memory and game knowledge actually play against you lol. Great video!
Kosmic is such a SMB speedrunning legend. He can Speedrun the game while holding left instead of right. Absolutely mind blowing.
When he said the last one was going to be "special", I expected him to play SMB Special, the Hudson version of SMB.
the gba version is emulated from the nes original. the sprite changes are due to the gba not having enough resolution to output all of an nes screen, so they had to compromise
@@o31075 as someone stated above, 1/4 of the lines are removed, so small Mario (I think it's 16x16 sprite) has four lines cut.
@@o31075 The GBA had a Resolution of 240 by 160. Compared to the NES's 256 by 240. Very. Very different. So in order to make up for the differents it seems they cut off a few pixels from every block layer's height and I think they just made the screen width slightly smaller.
But why does it wiggle like that
Now imagine beating Lost Levels in SMB: Deluxe. That's how I first beat both SMB1 and Lost Levels. I remember it taking a ridiculous amount of lives.
I did it last year and it was surprisingly easy. I think they must have toned it down? Only stage to give me trouble was the spring one because I couldn't see where I'd fall...
@@dacueba-games It's been so long that I can't remember if it was toned down or not, but probably now that you mention it. I played it when I was young. And yeah, the small size of the screen relative to the sprite size made a number of jumps blind.
You and your creative ideas with speed running, good content though, always good content! and hope you had a awesome christmas!
I can't wait to get back to work and tell my coworkers! :D
Coworker: Hey, I hope you had a good holiday vacation, what have you been up to?
Me: It was great! I had so much fun! I've been watching some amazing SMB1 speedrunning :D
Coworker: dafuque?
Me: Yep :D
Coworker: riiiiiiight! I'll be waaaaay over there if you need me, see ya later.
Me: It was great catching up! We should do this again some time! :p
@@stylis666 there’s no 1.
Great video! I never knew there were so many difference in some, like the Animal Crossing version. You may be aware of this, but there are a few other versions of SMB1:
1. Super Mario Bros (PAL revision 1) - this was a revised version released on the NES in PAL countries (Europe and Oceania). The original release in the PAL region was the same as the American release, so the gameplay and music was 1/6th too slow. Aside from the gameplay and music being sped up to make up for the fact that PAL runs at 50Hz (they messed up with the music so it actually runs twice as fast though), you can also jump slightly higher. For example, take the mushroom/fire flower at the end of 2-1. In this version, you can hit the block with a running jump from the ground. Unfortunately, if you want to play this on real hardware, you will need a PAL NES and a 288p 50Hz-compatible display.
2. VS Super Mario Bros - this was released in arcades in 1986. It's mostly similar to the original. but replaces some levels with levels from SMB2j, in particular levels that were harder versions of earlier levels in the original (5-3, 5-4, 6-4, 7-2, 7-3). Maze solutions in 4-4 and 7-4 are different and powerups were moved, replaced or removed to make the game harder. For example, there is no longer a powerup at the start of 5-2, so you have to take on the Hammer Bro. without one (assuming you didn't start the level with one). Ending similar to SMB2j. Of course, real hardware here requires an arcade machine, but it is also available on Nintendo Switch.
3. All-Night Nippon Super Mario Bros. - released on Famicom Disk System in 1986. Replaces many characters and other sprites with new ones related to the All Night Nippon radio show. Also has new solutions to mazes and replaces repeated levels with levels from SMB2j. Some powerups moved, replaced or removed. Physics are the same as SMB2j, so you jump much higher off enemies. You can also play as Luigi with his SMB2j physics, which is a far better way of doing so than Super Luigi Bros. Multiplayer removed, same as SMB2j. After beating the game eight times, you unlock SMB2j worlds A-D. An original copy is extremely rare (only 3,000 copies made) but can be played on original hardware using FDSStick.
Personally I've found these an interesting way to mix things up on repeat playthroughs of the game.
Finally, though this doesn't truly count, five of the e-reader levels of Super Mario Advance 4 are SMB3 versions of SMB1 levels (1-1, 1-2, 1-3, 1-4, 2-2). They're fun to play through in this way. You can play as Mario or Luigi (with different physics).
I would strongly recommend playing SMB Deluxe. It's challenges are really fun, and there are new levels that you race Boo in. In fact, in 8-4, the Cheep-cheeps did appear, but the screen crunch is so small you couldn't see them. Imagine how hard 2-3 and 7-3 are in this version!
12:35 i love playing old games cause who now would ever be excited about moving lava
you must be the type to take off mushrooms from your pizza seeing how you avoid them in this game
Mushrooms take up a few seconds, in speedrun time that is like 7 hours
I'm surprised you didn't do one of the SMB1 remakes in Dreams on the PS4, some of those are SUPER hilarious
Those keep getting taken down by nintendo though
@@timbo303official9 lmao
@@timbo303official9 those damn Nintendo copyrights…
As someone who only played SMB deluxe on my Gameboy color, I feel so validated lol
Thanks for confirming my harsh childhood growing up with having smb delux for gbc
First video of yours I've ever seen, loved it! :)
For some reason it's hilarious to me that of all the VC versions to have no input lag it was the one inside of another game lmao
Oh man, I did not know Speed Mario was a thing! I recently made my own NES emulator as a hobby project and I can hold down Shift or press U to make it play at unlocked framerates. On my laptop, that's about 125 fps, so this is basically playing SMB on my laptop with Shift held down. I've only beaten the first two levels like that, and that was only for fun. I didn't know there was a real version of the game built around that! Haha. Now I need to play for longer and see how far I can get.
13:23 "final boss" - an excellent edit... :D
Agree
I would like to point out that someone does have a 4:54 on Super Mario Bros Deluxe, which is so cool
Edit: the reason that Classic NES Mario Bros on GBA is so messed up is because the GBA screen has a smaller vertical resolution that the NES
There should be a variable speed running category, where you speedrun Super Mario Bros at any altered game speed you can handle.
Maybe that qualifies as tool assisted?
I assumed this would be like New super mario bros DS and stuff, but I was thoroughly fooled. 10 different actual SMB1's. Insane.
A few other neat versions you should maybe check out:
1. Vs. Super Mario Bros.
2. All Night Nippon Super Mario Bros.
3. Super Mario All-Stars on the Wii
4. Super Mario Bros. on the Game & Watch (the original, not the 35th anniversary version)
5. The European release (it has barely any changes, except for filling in a block in the underwater stages and moving the Koopas in 8-2 at the start)
6. Nintendo World Championships version
7. Masterpieces version in Super Smash Bros. Brawl and Wii U
8. BS Super Mario Collection Week 1 (essentially the Lost Levels version with a world map, on the Sateliview)
9. Play-Choice 10 version (An additional arcade release)
10. It was possible to transfer Super Mario Bros. to the Game Boy Advance temporarily from Animal Crossing. I'm just putting this here because I can't find any tenth official Super Mario Bros. release.
Another cool one is the fanmade Commodore 64 port, it's not official but it's very well made.
Half of those are literally just emulators
@@PorcKop lol
The european release sounds epic
Problem with NWC SMB is the 50 coin limit and the overall hardcoded 6 minute timer
@@PorcKop not true
Loved your SMB Deluxe casual playthrough, that game was my childhood, my version of SMB1 I played tons of and I'm glad to see a great player like you suffer through 8-3 and 8-4, I was literally stuck on those levels for years lol
Last version was unrecognizable, amazing vid!!
This was wonderful. I loved how you kept it interesting even if most were the same. Thank you for the video.
Nintendo should hire M2ª to do an SMB Definitive Edition. Include all the actually different versionsᵇ, with proper emulation of their differences (but also a version of SMBDX that shows the full screen, rather than a small portion of it) and all the extra stuff (like the challenge modes from SMB).
ªHire M2 because M2 are actually *good* at this sort of thing
ᵇBy "actually different" I mean "not emulated ports". The GBA "NES Classics" version is just the NES version emulated, but with the screen squashed, for instance. Of the ones in this video, definitely NES, All-Stars, SMBDX, Super Luigi Bros and Speed Mario Bros, at least...
This is what I've been waiting for. *Thank you, Kosmic!!*
Dude, running to the LEFT IS SO INSANE!
if anything this shows how good you are at the game, your skills carried over
It's just now 2023. This was apparently the first video I watched in 2022. So, naturally, I thought I'd come back and start this year off with the same video! Happy new year, Kosmic!
I'm like mostly aware of almost any version of this game but you were so excited about showing it that I loved the video lmao
I remember seeing that flickering of the GBA version while playing Phantasy Star 1 on GBA, too. I really wanted to play it back on the day (on an emulator), but it was so frustrating.
This was hilarious. And after seeing that 25th anniversary edition, never again will I ever let anyone get away with saying that Nintendo doesn't know how to go big when it comes to celebrating their achievements. That was amazing.
This was one of the most interesting videos I've seen on your channel @Kosmic!
Super Luigi going left really messed me up. LOL. Thanks for this video! I had no idea they had so many different versions of SMB!
Hey Kosmic, I remember a while back you had streamed NES Remix to look at one of the challenges in there, would you ever consider going back to it? I think seeing an SMB speedrunner take on the challenges in that game would be fun to watch
yeah i feel like theres lots I can do with it. A lot of it is actually fairly optimized already... it's also a bit frustrating having to play on wacky version and 3ds hardware. Kingboo97 has some nice records on it
can you send a link to when he did this?
I think AndrewG did some runs of some of the challenges too, particularly the SMB1 ones
Also hi lol
it was very interesting to see you try SMB Deluxe on the game boy color for the first time. Indeed there are many differences and fixed glitches, but its still possible to do two classics: the walljump, and small fire. Would be interesting to see you go back to it at least one more time for the bonus content too 👀
Other suggestions: the SMB1 ports for the Genesis, Commodore 64 and PC Engine. They'll likely work much like the NES versions too
22:50 - Makes me think of that "If Mario bros was an anime" thing. "THE TRUE MEANING OF LUIGI TIME!!!"
This is a LOT of runs and, despite the weirdness of some, I'm impressed with your versatility. Well done, man!
This is the best version of kosmic. He's a much more natural commentator when he's enjoying himself this much.
Deluxe makes me so happy to see. Played it as a kid, and don't think I could ever beat it. Gives me some relief
Yo Kosmic,
it felt funny seeing you actually play Super Mario, instead of just zooming through everything!
Keep up the interesting content! :)
That was fun. I would be super into seeing proper speed runs of the two NES Remix versions. I bet there would be some weird strats!
This challenge was awesome! I think a fun one to speed run would be playing every level in the SMM2 re-make world
Seeing Speed Mario Bros. gameplay really makes me want to see the inputs from that game taken and applied to a normal speed version of the game. Adjusted for the slower speed of course. I'd be funny to see how long decisions actually took in real time.
You could also slow the video to 0.5x for a similar effect
It really is just at 2x speed. That makes it a lot simpler to be honest.
When he said the last one was gonna be something special i though he was gonna play super mario bros. Special for the PC-8801/Sharp X1
firstly, thanks for editing this! secondly, awesome video & awesome job!
Thanks for a fast walkthrough. You are the SMB gamer I've ever seen!
In this video, Kosmic tragically fails at getting the mushroom powerup multiple times. Very fun video!
That was a lot of fun! A note about the Game Boy Advance version: it's an emulated version of the original game. This means that, unlike the Super NES port, all the original tricks work as intended. The downside, as you probably guessed, is that they decided to crush 256 x 224 pixels into 240 x 160 pixels… which makes the game look a fright.
Should’ve called this video “Kosmic misses the 1-2 mushroom”
Thanks for putting in the effort. I appreciate it!
I have read that the PAL version has some actual significant differences in collision and things!
I don't think I could ever finish Super Luigi Bros just because unless I'm walljumping or dodging something I don't press left
Edit: Also instead of Super Luigi Bros being a speedrunners nightmare I would argue Speed Mario Bros is way more of a nightmare but at the same time the only way to get an SMB1 world record even if it ain't legit
This video is exactly as advertised, which is insane in and of itself. The perfect clickbait, neither under or over delivering.
Loved this. Would love an uncut version.
8-3 on the Gameboy Color looks just as hard as I remember it being as a kid
This makes me realise how much I suck at speedrunning. I can’t even do the first level lol
*Pointcrow intensifies
What?
WHAT?
WHWHATAYATTTTATATT!!!!!!
Props for coming up with fun runs to do. The game boy version was so weird.
Best commentary ever. I could watch hours more of this
Staff: How much effort shall we invest in the 25th anniversary edition?
Iwata: No.
I was expecting Mari0 for the last game, an old indie SMB where Mario has a portal gun
Ohh, i still have it, i also have the last version of "Allesan99's entities" mod
Alternate universe where Kosmic accidentally got a world record run on SMB 25th Anniversary and he couldn't upload it because it wasn't on the original game
theres something about being a kid as I was, experiencing this game and its new tech at the time in the early 80s that makes me appreciate it that much more.
It's interesting to me that the only version that got updated graphics / sprites / sound was the SNES ' All Stars version. All the others used the exact same blocky 1985 graphics / sprites / sound.
Man I wish there was a version that had the content of SMB Deluxe, but with the graphics and resolution of the All-Stars version.
The gameboy version was always really funny but I remember as a kid I unlocked Lost Levels, some of those jumps were barely doable.
I used to solely play the online flash version, and then I started watching your videos and played for speedruns on my wii classic version
I remember getting a nes for Christmas from my mom in 87 and the snes in 92 hearing the music takes me back to simpler times.
I loved Super Mario Bros Deluxe as a kid but I do not remember the game looking like that LOL
Now you need to do all 10 simultaneously!
this editing is top notch dude
"i played so well and here i am, small mario" has become one of my favorite quotes
15:40 Rest in Peace Kosmic's foot
I jokingly thought it's all about luck to beat Speed Mario Bros in the past! Now, I know it's possible now!
SMB Delux was actually my first experience playing Super Mario Bros. I would be so flabergasted seeing runs of the original SMB thinking the mechanics were so wonky. I had no idea that my version was very different and, in fact, much more difficult.
Keep up the good work!!
Video Suggestion: Speedrun SMB with the screen and/or your controller upside down.
Smb deluxe enemies are a lot slower becuase of the screen size i believe, like bullet bills would be hella more dangerous when you cant see them coming and they're going full speed
3:12 I hate to be that guy, but last time I checked that’s not 4-2
Yeh. Its 4-4
i say a lot of things slightly wrong like that while speedrunning lol
My favorite part is where you not only missed the mushroom in 1-2 in All Stars and Luigi, but ALSO in 25 😂
This Video is super entertaining, subbed.
which version is optimal to play while eating a pizza and drinking a coke?
Any of them
I got that reference!
May I just say that I absolutely adore SNES All-Stars?!
Same
now you know the pain of speed mario bros lmao. ive tried beating it and cant do it so congrats on beating it
I grew up playing deluxe on the gbc. This was so entertaining watching all the mess ups due to screen scroll.