Tamiya Rising Fighter Review, Hop-ups & Mods
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- čas přidán 7. 05. 2018
- The Tamiya Rising Fighter is one of the most affordable Tamiya buggies. In this video we show what hop-ups and mods we have made to 2 Tamiya Rising Fighters. Included is a review of the car in its stock form, and reasons why we feel they needed to be upgraded. Many thanks to Rob Brennan for joining me with his modified buggy. Because the buggy is so cheap, we have tried to keep the cost down on all our mods - so hopefully most owners will be able to afford these mods too.
The transmission brace mod can be seen in detail here: • How to Make a Tamiya R...
The front shock tower brace mod can be seen here: • Tamiya rising fighter ...
The Steering Strengthening mod can be seen here: • Tamiya rising fighter ...
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love Tamiya cheap stuff, looks nice
You and me both! Somehow the cheaper Tamiyas are the most fun! :O)
Nice honest review with what I think are essential mods.....motor, bearings etc. I'm liking those spiked front tyres, they make the buggy look far more beefy. Top stuff man. :-)
Great comment, The Contractor! Glad you agree with the basics - but all seasoned Tamiya owners will understand where we are coming from! Those Turf Rippers are a real bargain, Rob and I bought about 6 pairs each recently as they were only £6 a pair including postage!!! Massive improvement over the standard fitment, great for most Tamiya RWD cars with the wheels that carry the bearings, if you know what I mean! All the best Cosmo - Mark :-)
Awesome video. I love my tamiyas and I love the budget models too.
Thanks a ton! Definitely a Tamiya fan right here, but it's good to try something a little different now and again. All the best from Mark. 👍
Very nice rig Mark! Your Figher looks super nice! I like the front shock tower brace. Not sure if it is necessary in this "class" but it looks cool. Love our rig 👌👍
Thanks a lot Charlie - your comments are always welcome! I like the shock brace too, as you say, how much difference it really makes is almost immaterial - it just looks cool !!! Cheers for the encouraging comments - look forward to reading you soon my friend :-)
Hey Mark, after owning and mildy modding my Rising Fighter I found that the car tips over to easily. So i took inspiration from the Mad bull and stuck lunchbox wheels on it, now the squishy tires acts like the suspension and it drives much better with it. You should try it too maybe you will have fun as much as me. Take care!
Hi and great to read you! Thanks for the tip, I just might try that, I bet it also looks very mean with the big tyres on it! All the best from Mark... :)
Very helpful Mark, Rob and Alf. I can apply some of this to my Hornet which is very similar. Manly the suspension which is pants ! Cheers guys :-)
Cheers Pete Wylie RC Videos! I hope some of these mods will transfer to the Hornet and other similar Tamiya chassis like the Grasshopper II and the Lunchbox - at least it's food for thought! Thanks for the comment and the continued support my RC mate :-)
😊👍Nice! Like the spike pin front tires.
Many thanks, Steve - yeah those tyres (ProLine Turf Rippers) transform the turning capabilities when off-road, what I mean is it actually TURNS with these tyres on! The narrow grooved Holiday Buggy tyres also work much better than the standard fitment. Appreciate the support dude :-)
Probably one of the funnest rc cars i own. top mods fellas
Haha - yeah, gotta agree with you there, this buggy is a scream! Thanks for the comment bro! :-)
@@MarkBryanRC keep up the wicked vids ur a legend ✌
Loving the video guys. I had a Tamiya Audi Quottro in the 80s. Now, at 49, I'm getting another Tamiya (from Time Tunnel models, they seem the best value). I'm down to three choices: Rising Fighter, Audi A2 and Mercedes E190. The Rising Fighter leaves me cash to upgrade from the start (bearings, motor, shocks). The other two, I could mod later (just go with bearings at the start). I figure the Audi and Merceds will care ok
Sounds great, Lee - I'll answer your question on your other message!
👍great vid guys
Chris Scott, your support is always totally appreciated - thanks for the comment and for watching, I hope all is well for you. I have a running video of the Rising Fighter (x2) coming soon - hope yo surprise you with how good the modifications work! Cheers mate :-)
Really interesting video, Mark. You can see the Grasshopper/Hornet lineage pretty clearly here. I always wonder about gearboxes and foreign material, as they're not really sealed, although the Grasshopper has a lip on one half that the other slots into and it's quite a decent seal. Are you sure your hotter motor didn't just grind the alloy pinion into powder? They are pretty soft.
I did wonder whether a very light application of silicon would do the trick, but it's so hard to do on models and not get any inside, which defeats the object...
Thanks very much! Oh, you are right about these gearboxes! This was definitely fine dirt and grit as it was evident all over the inside of the plastic cases. It did wear the soft alloy pinion to powder, though! The best solution I've found since making this video is to seal the mating surfaces with Tamiya AW Grease. Very effective, but quite expensive, though! Thanks again, Take care. :)
I've just built my RF - still having nightmares about building the friction dampers (horrid horrid things) and I will be replacing them with the oil-filled CVAs soon. Still busy buying the hop-ups and bling for my upcoming TT02B build - I'm so excited about that one I'm like a kid again. 😁
I put bearings in from the start - the bushes just make no sense at all - and I also fitted a steel pinion as well. I'm certainly going to look at the 21 turn Absima (yes, you did say it right 😉) motor, the front tyres and possibly the steering mod that Rob has done.
I actually like this buggy. It has a lot of character and it is a fun buggy - which I think was the intention of the design. Cheap and cheerful. I've left the decals off mine as I love the blue colour of the body and really didn't want to spoil it with decals. Because they are so cheap I am seriously thinking about buying another (without ESC) just as a source of spare parts.
Hi Nick! Haha, yeah, those friction dampers!!! Best to put them in the bin! Sounds like you got the essential mods done straight away, good sense my friend. It sure has a lot of character and is a real laugh to run, I'm sure you will enjoy it - a second kit for spares is a good idea as they are so cheap, but I must admit that after a lot of abuse, I haven't broken anything on my RF, YET!!! Shouldn't have said that! You know what's gonna happen next! All the best, take care and happy RCing! 😁👍
Awesome video! Thumbs up for you all three! Love both of your mods! Very clever and genious ... and affordable. I actually also got a tip out of it. My front shocks are a bit too long too. So you put a spacer inside behind the piston? I can imagine it would stop the travel, but is the spacer just freely attached or?
Hi Nordic RC Visions - many thanks for the 3 thumbs up!!! The spacers in the shocks are often fitted to other Tamiya CVA's - I had a few spare... its just a little plastic spacer with a 3mm hole (sometimes these spacers are fitted outside the shock body on the piston rod). When fitting inside the shock body, it's left loose beneath the piston. I tried the car yesterday and the mod works really well, travel is fine, the car just sits lower and is less prone to tip over. I landed it from some massive jumps no problem - video of that coming next as soon as I can edit the 55 minutes of footage down! Thanks for the feedback my friend :-)
Mark Bryan RC Ahh, now I know them. Must definitly have a lot of those in spare so gonna try it out. Good tip, Thanks! Inside the bodies. Everything you say makes sense and seems so logically ... after you say it :-) Looking forward to that video! Yeah, sometimes it takes sone time to review that footage and pick just the right 2-6 minutes footage. That’s probably what consumes most of my time editing. Reviewing all the footage.
Mark Bryan RC BTW, love your wheels and tires on that RF. I picked those too, Sigbarth RC too. Well, in different colours. After I mounted them I was astonished to see the difference. They just suit the RF so perfectly. Visually I think it is the best upgrade. And I bet the wider off set in the back together with real off road front tires will improve performance too. Still keep the old front tires ready for on road runs too. Think they will be more durable there.
Haha - Yes - Editing!!! Takes so much time and effort - I wonder if our viewers have any idea what it takes? Well, those who have channels of course - it is a labour of love... :-)
I saw those wheels on your Rising fighter series, too! I had already fitted the Holiday Buggy wheels by then - but gotta agree, they really set the buggy off and it is what Tamiya should have fitted in the first place - as you have said in the past, Tamiya moves in mysterious ways. Any yes, I too keep the old tyres for road runs - nothing gets thrown away in my RC shed :-)
Cool mods guys.
Thank you, StankoPerko! All the mods are super-cheap or free to do if you have a few spares - thanks for the comment and support :-)
Hey Mark. This video helped me choose the Rising Fighter. It looks like a cool man cave! Quick question, please? I've found a Thrust Eco 15 a d a 21 at a hobby shop. Is the 15 too much? And... Pinions. Is the rule: less teeth equals faster too end and more teeth equals better accelerr? What pinion would you run with a 15 and a 21 motor on the Rising Fighter? (I may upgrade the motor in my TT02 Quottro, too!!!)
Hey, Lee! Cheers, the man cave is my favourite spot and my goto place to get away from everything! As for the motor, I reckon the 15T is a bit too much, the buggy likes to swap ends even with the stock motor, mine is fast enough with the 21T!!!
Less teeth = better acceleration.
More teeth = more top speed.
Try using the standard pinion first, as the Thrust Eco 21 spins at least 5000 rpm more than the stock silver can. All the best, my friend, have a good weekend! :O)
He Mark. I've made all the mods you n Rob have talked about. 21turn motor is the sweet spot. Man, why is this car so addictive?? My dt02 holiday buggy is competent. So is my Dt03 so fighter. But, with new read tyres, the Rising Fighter feels skool good when you're driving it right. You really have to throttle back.I know it gets loads of bad press, but it's ace. So ace, I'm seriously considering getting a back up from Time Tunnel. Expect in light of their email this weekend re inflation
Hi Lee, nice to read you! The 21 turn motor is deffo the sweet spot, so glad you agree - and yeah, these buggies are addictive, but as they are so cheap, it's all good! Old school sums it up perfectly! Hope these kits don't go up in price too much, or else we are all gonna be hurting. Take it easy, mate! :O)
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@@frankschmitz3341 Thanks!
I have never really been a fan of the R.F, mainly because of the Toyish look of the stock buggy and the performance issues you have highlighted. I do however really like the look of Mikael's since he raked the rear end and painted it black and put black wheels on it. To me it eliminated the "toy" look and makes it look more aggressive and appealing. That of course is just my opinion and this is obviously very popular Tamiya for the price. Especially for those starting out in the hobby. I particularly like the plexi glass pinion window and the cockpit windows. Both are aesthetically pleasing, but also provide a very useful function which will prolong the life of the buggy. But of course, my biggest like is always going to be the same as yours, which is the cheap homemade aspect of most of these mods, which look like they will vastly improve the "out of the box" performance. I will be very interested to see your upcoming comparison run of these buggies. Once again I thoroughly enjoyed watching another one of your very interesting videos mate. Big Thumbs Mark, and Rob. : ))
Cheers for a very interesting comment, Derek ! It is just great to get some genuine personal opinions, that's what makes this hobby so interesting.
I was never that keen on the looks of this buggy either, but Rob and I were intrigued see just what performance you could get for £48 (kit only). Yes it looks very toyish - but then I do like playing with toys! We kept the bodies unpainted to keep cost down and reduce the chance of scratches! however I hate the standard decals (well, they are poor quality stickers TBH) and had to find an alternative.
So - after running them, it was apparent that the handling was dreadful, but at least it was very fast and fun could still be had - especially running head to head, but it was more a case of who could run the longest without crashing! We just couldn't leave them standard, leading to the mods you see in the video - on a shoestring.
I can honestly sat that the mods have transformed the cars into something very drivable, and as you say, we get great satisfaction from solving the problems ourselves with mostly hand-made solutions, thanks for the compliment on this aspect Derek :-)
As for the looks, now we have come this far the aesthetics may come next - although I think the lowering of the stance, the CVA shocks and the wheel change is a step in the right direction on my RF - looking more purposeful at least! A re-spray, some rally decals / racing numbers and a window tint might take it the next step - we will see. Thank you so much for taking the time to share your thoughts, and of course for your encouraging words my friend :-)
What shocks do you use for the rears?
I need to replace mine urgently as one of them broke yesterday.
Hi - I find the Absima alloy shocks are very good and a good price for a pair. Measure your shock lengths and do a ebay search, I'm sure you will find a set to fit. :)
Hi, can you tell me what motor you swapped in please? Like the mods.
Hi Lazy Assassin! The motor is an Absima Eco Thrust 21. Glad you liked the mods, and thank you for the comment. :)
Hi, Looking into getting this kit but I dont like the Rising Fighter body shell. Would a Grasshopper shell fit?
Hi, I don't think the original Grasshopper body will fit as the chassis is different. The Grasshopper II body might fit, but then it will probably be cheaper and easier to get the Grasshopper II Kit, the chassis are very similar anyway and you KNOW the body will fit!!! :-)
@@MarkBryanRC Thank you for the Quick and honest reply! :)
No worries my friend! 👍
Hey Mark. I'm used to sticks from when I was a kid. I'm debating whether to get the Carson sticks or to go with the bundled wheel conroller
Same here - I'm a twin-stick man! I got the bundles with the Carson sticks, it's a good little radio. But, if you go for the steering wheel, it's a bit cheaper and I'm sure you'll get used to it.
Hey. Well, I pushed the button. Got the Audi TT02 chasis. And sticks! I remember my Dad using Loctite on the build. Would you say that's necessary? Cheers
@@leewprice Good on you, Lee! You will love it - sticks too! No, I don't use Loctite on any of my Tamiyas, it can harm the plastics if you are not careful. Enjoy the build! :)
What is the fitment like for hard case 2s lipos?
Very tight, David, but they do go in!!! 👍
What is the name of the tire company? Fast Tracks? can you give me the spelling?
Fastrax !!! :) Cheers!
Sorry I pressed send!!!
I figure the Audi and Mercedes-Benz will fare ok off road as they're four wheel drive.
Which model would you recommend, please? I can't decide
Hi Lee - if it were me, and knowing these kits pretty well, I'd go for the Audi A2 on the TT02 chassis. As you say, lot's of room for improvements in the future. It comes with light buckets, so you can add LEDs later on. Also includes a Torque Tuned motor that is much better than the stock silver can. With the TT02 you can build it with the optional higher ground clearance, making it better for off road running. The Rising Fighter is a fun buggy, but ultimately the handling is limited by the extremely basic suspension design. Hope this helps! :)
@@MarkBryanRC Thanks very much for the advise, Mark. I can't wait to jump into this hobby. The Audi is the most expensive of the three, but I figure it's something that will be with me for a good many years and I can enjoy it and mod it. So I'll get the Audi this month. (I really enjoyed driving my old Audi Quottro in the early eighties, just round and round the gravel playground near my house, just swinging the rear end out and practising going round in a big skid. I want to recreate THAT!)I still really want a buggy too, though, and as the price of the bundle at Time Tunnel is SO good (109.99 for the whole bundle) I think I may jump into that, next month maybe. I think those two will keep me happy in most environments (he says, hoping the hobby doesn't get it's claws into my wallet TOO much!!!)
(Oh, just realised, I'm typing all this on my wife's log in!!!!)
@@juliebirch5305 Hi - your back story is very similar to mine, I had a few Tamiyas in the 80s and 90s. Got back in a few years ago, best thing I did! Yeah, Time Tunnel has the best deals, I always check there first. The buggy is a good price, but it's very basic, but fast and fun at the same time - expect a lot of hopping and roll-overs! If you are anything like me, you'll catch the Tamiya bug - then you won't be able to stop buying them! Have fun! :)
Off road boogie😂
Oh yeah, Wayne - definitely boogie woogie!!! :)
Neo fighter not sew lol
:D Yeah, I worked that out!!! :D