1956 High School Exchange Students Debate on Prejudice (1). Nigeria, Ethiopia, Ghana, South Africa
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We see a different batch of students, but from the same countries debating the same topic as in 1957.
Gold Coast (Ghana today) - Alfred Bannerman, South Africa - Dicks Loubser, Nigeria - Mohammed Liman, Ethiopia - Nebiat Tafari. The boys from this debate can also be seen in this final group episode: • 1956 High School Excha...
Where are they now? czcams.com/video/0ynRwRg6POc/video.html
Where is that white guys grave. I want to go wake him up. He calls black people 'they.' 😂🤣😂
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Imagine if maggots hated each other because they were different colours. Even though they’re still maggots.
No clapping from an audience allows each student to express themselves and explore ideas instead of trying to score points with the crowd. Love it
Love this comment, couldn't agree more.
I definitely think the last part of what u said about trying to score points is a big problem we have in todays time.
They say right - left . At the end of the day everyone just want to argue and be right
James Jackson Sacramento He/Him must have had a point of personal privilege before the debate began to ensure the chatter and whispering was kept to a minimum cos he’s one of those people prone to sensory overload and it makes it hard for him to focus. A true American hero
Best part is, the Audience's absence was not a result of COVID 😌
I think their honesty about their own prejudices is incredible. These dudes aren’t trying to sound as good as possible, they’re trying to express themselves
Yes, I wonder where they are today.
@@nkilisudah8269 This was in 1956 their in their late 80's or early 90's or maybe not alive today.
@@johnstephanos1128 assuming they're all 18 here, that would make them all about 83 now. Wow.
That is what I like most about these videos. No one is trying to make themselves look good or bad, just being honest.
People were real and unemotional back in those days.
The Ghanaian brother made us proud. That’s because of guys like him we are free now. Mad respect.
You’re not free. Your country is a child of Europe. Your history and culture was stolen so you could adopt the new way
ok... free to genocide farmers? he repeats the same question and doesn't seem to understand that the SA dude will never give him the answer he wants since his idea of what is reality in South Africa is biased. Anyway, you seem to have a prejudice against whites, do you ever wonder if they are not jews pretending to be white? Because they are not!
@@maitres-chez-nous5609 Strange how whites accuse Africans of being prejudice after being welcomed as guests and then stealing the entire continent. Do you not know history?? I think white Ppl have an unnatural arrogance and self-righteousness they refuse to confront.
Are we free?? Really??
@@trudyjose9978 more often captive of your own victim narrative than true oppression
The most shocking thing amongst others is just how articulate and well spoken these HIGHSCHOOLERS are, sad to see how far we've digressed in that particular area.
Who's influence on the world made it digress? European?
To be fair, there were inarticulate highscholars in that era just as much as there still exist articulate highschoolers now. I highly doubt they would have put "average" highschoolers on television back then. These are likely the students who were considered the most articulate and have had debate training.
We have about 1300 kids in our high school in Toronto (from just about every country you can imagine). Honestly, I could pretty easily find four students that could hold their own in a debate like this: a lot of teenagers today are well-informed, articulate and are excellent critical thinkers. This debate is fascinating, but I assure you these weren't four teens plucked at random from a high school.
Ever watch the Burnie Sanders video of him randomly questioning 2 "punk" kids in a California mall back in the 80s ? It's eye opening.
What we have is pockets. High quality schools make good students, yet many will have behavior issues unheard of then. Also our bad schools allow vast amounts of really poor quality of people to pass through. Kids are maybe more "harder" they've seen dismemberment movies like Saw. They are hyper sexualized, hyper political, but I doubt they actually know things. They parrot an awfully lot. I haven't met a youth in a long time that actually knew things from first hand.
Not just high schoolers. EVERYONE was more well spoken. These days everyone says uh UhHhH uh every other word and can’t articulate themselves enough to convey their thoughts and feelings
Ghanaians been defending africa from day one, true pan africanism.
Don't forget the role of Liberia in the independence of African countries.
But, it was the Haitians, Afro-descendants from the Caribbean, who were the first defenders of Africa. Read at the Gallica Libraire de France, Antenor Firmin's response to Count of Gobineau, Of the Equality of the Human Races. Firmin was the only black person at the Anthropological Society of Paris in the 1890's defending Africans against white supremacy. Of course, we blacks always reinvent the wheel because we are not united. I am glad to have come across this video to see these excellent young Africans. But, it started with Haiti because they were the first black republic-- 1804. Thus, Haiti produced "luminaries" as Victor Hugo mentioned. They were the first defenders of black freedom. Africans/black nations should have an organization to find lost/forgotten black literature so that we can all showcase black excellence in Africa as well as in the diaspora.
Ghana is king.
@@princegcash2915 That is true- but you are missing one point which is that the identity of African didn't exist to Africans as it was not a label they chose for them selves.
Ohemaa AnG yes that is very true the scramble for Africa brought about that so,Africa is one.
they speak and debate their points clearer than our adult politicians of today
They are dumbing us down so that it is easier to control us.
@@rjburras9306 there are no more expectations of class and decorum...I was just watching a sportscaster who mispronounced every other word (ekspecially ?)...you are 100 percent right about the control aspect...pretty evident when every mound of shit the government shovels at us today people just open up and eat it....I also find it funny how people felt the internet or technology would make the government more transparent and level the playing field...it actually has done the opposite , and it has enabled them to exert control easier than ever before. ...next up even our thoughts will be tracked
@@michaelfrazia4569 💯%
Yes.
I agree with you. They debate much much better.🤣🤣🤣
Muhammad liman was my uncle , he died 2012 in kaduna state , Nigeria. We miss him dearly . He was the shining light of our family . My father was affected by his death n he died in 2021 aa a result of the shock he felt. My late uncle was an honest and lovable individual who was there for us all. I doubt if we will ever have a charismatic n compassionate individual like him again. May their soul rest in paradise. 😢😢😢😢😢 we will forever be in our hearts Muhammad Liman doko.
Sorry to hear about your loss. Can you tell us more about your uncle? For example, what was his profession? Does he have any surviving family? Cheers.
Did he die of ligma
😂@@omegamanGXE
Sorry but he had a fundamentalist viewpoint about religion and co-existence like other northerners which has been the bane of retrogression for Nigeria after her independence.
Its amazing the level of eloquence from the Ghanaian young man. May Africa give birth to many more like him in this techno literate age.
@soHi he was more far more intelligent more than the rest
Including that cave boy
@@sunboy1558 the caveman was an entitled, bumbling idiot.
youre only proud of the ghanian? no one else? the south african kids assumptions about how history would play out is correct. the ghanian thinks that a african american majority would integrate and "save the white mans soul" - 70 years later, majority of crimes are committed by african americans people in the US
Did you not see him interrupting people and not shutting up for 5 seconds to let others talk?
@@youtubesucks1821yeah, because he was cooking hard
In all these videos/debates, White students ALWAYS represent South Africa. This is a country that had more Blacks than Whites yet always represented by whites.
That says it all; blacks where never given a chance in that country.
At the time Apartheid was in full swing. Priority was given to whites. There was no way the Union of South Africa prior to 1991 would send a Black person to study overseas.
I guess the white are in power as S.A as at the time of the debate.
Hi Summer....!
Sister summer say it Louder so that those in the back can hear you!!! Big facts 💯!!
True, blacks were not given a chance then but in 1991 they did get all the chances to prove their worth, ANC and Zuma disappointed
Hilarious that people living through the apartheid era could sit down and have a more civil and polite political discussion than your average person in 2022
It's especially crazy because they hold the exact same racist beliefs and use the same bad rhetoric
They had actual problems, and humility. People today invent shit to fuss about. They're arrogant narcissists.
Crazy how Mandela and the people took back south Africa against the colonist and then gave it right back how pathetic
It seems consistent with the idea of citizens of warring lands being on their guard and even bulking up to fight in said wars. These kids just bulked up in brains not bodies.
@@staystreamin7864 gave it back?
The Ghanaian is making me soo proud. As a South African, I feel soo happy about how well-informed he is.
What about your fellow south African?
@@muhammadnawaz5039 you got jokes my friend 😴
@@lesegomisay8179 😂😂😂😂😂had to laugh
@@lyannamormont298 😂😂😂😂
So now what we get in South Africa killing us robbery our shops 🏬
I'm so impressed with the quality of debate of this era. Their confidence, intelligence, eloquence and depth of thought pattern considering the fact that this is a high school debate. They will conveniently match a college debate of today. So proud of the Ghanian, rooting for him...
youre only proud of the ghanian? no one else? the south african kids assumptions about how history would play out is correct. the ghanian thinks that a african american majority would integrate and "save the white mans soul" - 70 years later, majority of crimes are committed by african americans people in the US.
Why does it feel like we've regressed as a society? Why cant we have honest and vulnerable conversations like this? Especially with how well spoken they are.
Because people aren’t as “tolerant” as they claim to be.
It’s the media. Mainly right wing media because they lie, fear monger and demonize marginalized groups. Have you ever tried to have a good faith conversation with a diehard trump supporter? Fucking impossible lol. Soup brain 🫠
The reason is these days you can't open up about any issues without being labelled a way cist just as for instance CZcams would shadow ban this comment had I written the actual word that I just circumvented. Everything is looked down upon due to historical events and incorrect association but if people could actually sit down with an open mind they would be much more understanding but it's hard to be realistic when things are taken personally due to subjective bias (in a overall population sense). For those reasons the key elements in these cases such as overall progression are almost always overlooked and it's that selfish "I want my skin tone to do most things" mentality and lack of deeper understanding that is root of all problems.
When we can learn to think collectively and reasonably that's when we benefit the most, perhaps for most people in this specific scenario that can only be achieved if the representatives were mixed race though I suppose even that ultimate fairness still wouldn't cater to everyone.
We do still do, they just dont get as much views. Whats changed is peoples interest. Dramatic garbage gets more clicks, views so more chances you will see those.
the world and mainly the US has gone downhill since the early 2000's, I 100% blame the Bush administration and the rise of all these propaganda news outlets like Fox News, it was their goal to basically screw up the kind of progress we made in the last 1/2 of the 20th century
The Ghanaian is so bright no wonder he became a Professor of Neurology in Columbia University and a top Neurologist. 🇬🇭❤️
What's his name?
@@manganese3054 Prof. Dr. Alfred Bannerman
The Ethiopian also became a pediatrician
Damn these were some real smart folks.
So he left his own people lol
As an international student trying to master English I find quite interesting seeing people from the past speaking fluently and being this articulate. Nowadays we have internet and translation apps, they didn't and look at them. ADMIRABLE!
That’s exactly what I was thinking, I’m a native English speaker and I think that their English ability is better than mine lol
@@brianmarch4219 "Native English?" From England?
@@earldarnell5221 It means English is their first language.
I mean I’m sure most of these kids have English as a first language
High School students, in the 50s. Smarter than college educated adults today, already knew just had it confirmed 😂
Your comparing truly exceptional students from one era to average students from another. The kid on the left for instance went on to be a Professor of Neurology at Columbia University, and a Director of Neurology at a Hospital in Queens. Nebiat Tafari, the kid on the far right, went on to be a Pediatrician who was being published in peer reviewed papers all the way up to his retirement in 2007. We're not comparing apples and apples here
Speak for yourself King.
@@grigorigahan These kids were smarter than a majority of people during that time.
You’re right.
@@grigorigahan you can be anything you want to as long as society isn't trying to sabotage you because of your color or other socially acceptable motiff of discrimination, so if you dont shoot for the stars and you take life for granted that's on you man. Not all of us will be successful and mental and emotional experiences and health play a huge role in this, but for those that are able to think and grow and adapt, you owe it to yourself to do all that you can, and to improve life for those who aren't as gifted or blessed. This does not mean reaching back to help people who made stupid decisions when they knew better. You should still help though if they've let themselves down, because your blessed to have a brain that let's you know better.
The Ghanian is literally enjoying himself because the south African makes it too easy.
Right😂😂😂
Too easy for what? He legitimately believed that apartheid was for the common good of all South Africans. He was probably taught every argument for it and just like growing up in a cult he had no idea how wrong he was. I think many of us have been trained to attack people we disagree with and focus on minor differences. This is how we make enemies of potential allies. This is how "they" divide and conquer us. This guy is not the enemy he is just ignorant.
@@stevenygabbyperez695 really sad and infuriating..
@@stevenygabbyperez695 the tricky part is, he doesn't acknowledge being wrong when met with facts, and even goes so far to lie! The responses and body language by them all towards the south african when he blatantly denies the wrongdoings. Im not here for the "I'm ignorant pity party" especially when they all appear to have the access to be educated.
@@stevenygabbyperez695 youre a crazy vendido sell out he knew he was wrong but his ego he is no ally he doesnt see you as a fellow human
These guys were so informed even without the internet. I could only have debates like these in university, it's crazy that these are high school students.
HS kids were like this up until about 20 years ago. Ironically around the time the internet started blowing up
They don't make them like this that's for sure.
@@Anchor7 not true… high school kids back in the early 2000s were like this too..
@@nateclipps Agreed thats why I said about 20 years ago, but that was the beginning of the downfall.
Shows you how serious we were about our minds & what was humanely right & wrong.
The guy from goal coast had the strongest argument and the most charismatic of the bunch. He could have made a good politician
The composure these guys had was phenomenal. Fascinating
Unbelievable how everyone lets each other speak and just listens. How did we forget how to have debates like this?
the internet plays a big part.
mostly because people are still acting as if hate speech and human rights should still be up for debate and that they deserve to actually have their words listened to
@@SCUM_ how do you know what people are saying without listening to them? how do you know what they're saying without listening first? it's simple dehumanization and stooping to their level.
It's because of anti-theism and irreligion.
The simple fact is that as they all started off saying, most of their prejudices were against religious groups. So most religious groups especially Islam and Christianity are not also ethnic groups meaning that prejudice isn't as simple as racism or fat phobia. It's not necessarily visual.
Also people of different faiths are used to arguing with each other and basing arguments on scripture and history. In order to have a religion, realistically one has to constantly be thinking and questioning one's own understanding. That's why there are so many different interpretations of God and so many different religions and so many different denominations within those religions. Constant questioning.
Now people think that claiming to be an atheist makes one an intellectual and most want to argue what they think is science but in fact just parrot misunderstood quotes from articles that already confirmed their bias.
Atheism is regressive though and I think that should be obvious. I mean do animals have religion? All culture comes from religion. That's not even an opinion. It's an archaeological fact.
I'm not saying that evil things haven't been done in the name of religion btw, or course they have. My own abusive mother uses the bible to try to maintain dominance.
I'm simply saying that being anti-religious is anti-intellectual and regressive. I mean I think the correlation between lack of religion and the level of intelligence degrading is pretty clear. We have the highest level of education and access to education ever and yet people are the most imbecilic now. They're also the most irreligious and that is degrading culture, mental health and IQ.
*In my opinion*
@@SCUM_ why should anyone be listening to you then? Not allowing certain people to speak is a violation of their rights, why can you do it but not others. Are you just that holier than thou to believe that you're always correct no matter the circumstance? People had your mentality for all of history, which is why it took so long for social progress. It's easier to not listen to someone when you think you're better than them ( like when white people believed they were better than black people and never listened to them in the past until the late 60s)
Ethiopian: “I never felt I was a negro until I came to this country”
Ghanaian: “Wha, wha, Why!?”
😂😂😂😂
sadly Emperors of Ethiopia did that. so bad!
I couldn’t stop laughing he genuinely seemed shocked 😂
I don't see nothing wrong with the Ethiopian saying that, because back then the Ethiopians never thought that they were black.
My grandmother passed 8 years ago if I said to her she is black? That's would be a very big insult to her.
Even now in 2021 if you goes to the remote area in Ethiopia they will never admit that Ethiopia is black,
@@messianic_scam
I said " back then "....
@@messianic_scam
...lol
It's been ages since I've heard a healthy debate about any subject. This was very cathartic to me. Of course everyone from that time period or now we're not and are not as eloquent, respectful, and patient and concise as these men, but it was definitely a treat to witness the conversation.
All four are so respectful and honest. Much love. At 26 a lot to learn from these men! Love their perspectives.
Did anyone else find it weirdly comical in the beginning where they basically went around in a circle naming their prejudices that happened to be against another member of the panel?
Yeah. Almost sounded like what they rehearsed before the cameras came on.
I think it is better that discussed prejudiced against each other's country coz atleast they will be enlightened when one defend or explain his country against the prejudice. It will be less informational when they discuss prejudice against countries not included in the group.
Yes, I did.
It definitely seemed like a forced bit of false equivalence, and a way of trying to make white viewers at the time--it's goddamn 1956--not feel alienated. "Negroes are prejudiced too, so my racism/prejudice isn't so bad." Like... this is a time where we are still called negroes--this is not a trustworthy debate as far as fairness goes on the face of it, it's moreso a display of the times.
@@cheddmt8365 Oh yes I do think that they did rehearse a bit in. The speakers had already gotten to know each other before the debate. But the speakers were also picked specifically for this debate so the organizers wanted people on the panel who had issues with each other.
High schoolers of yesterday have better attitude and etiquette then most of the 30 year olds today
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These are the most highly-educated, wealthy, and privileged children of their time. I doubt the average teen around that time was as eloquent.
And well read !
Especially the Nigerian fellow. His demeanor and manner of speech is so refined I hard time believing he's younger than I am. He probably had a successful career in business or politics as intelligent as he appears here.
True
Incredible and mature conversation. Try having such a conversation today, it will turn into a whirlwind of emotions.
The Ghanaian guy thank u for representing us all. You spoke for all of us on the continent and we appreciate u for that ❤️❤️❤️ And thank u for speaking for our oppressed brothers and sisters in South Africa.
Imagine if this Ghanaian dude was there at the same time as Boniface from Nigeria who came one year later. #massacre!
I was thinking the same thing!!!!
I was thinking the same thing!!!!
That would have been awesome.
RIP Boniface
@@funsho83 rip
According to a text from 2021, Alfred Bannerman (the young gentleman representing Gold Coast) went on to become a Professor of Neurology at Columbia University, NY, and Director, Neurology, at Jamaica Hospital Center, Queens, NY.
Dr. Bannerman spent most of his adult life in the US, but is now retired, living the life of a country gentleman in the rural hills of Aburi, Ghana (former Gold Coast).
Sounds like a movie 🍿
I think you mean *Dr. Nini Bannerman
So impressive as a young man.
Holy sht, I live right next to the hospital 🏥!!
And now he’s actually a “Nini” as he’s an old man
Man the Ghanaian brother just keeps making me smile Cos he’s very articulate and clear with his words and point
Whenever Ghanaians speak, they also have the entire Africa and the black race at heart.
That is a lie Ghana don't have an Africa interest, go and watch the other debate, don't forget Ghana is the first country in Africa to expel all Africans out of their country, Ghana has never done any practical thing for Africa
@@nenitafrica6851 That’s false. But yes we did that...and we never forgave that Government for that. They ruled for 3 years! 3 years! And were thrown out...Read Nkrumah’s letter to Busia detailing that.
@@nenitafrica6851 This is just hate. Ghana contributed funds to almost all other African countries in their struggle. Don’t hate without information. For example, Ghana gave Guinea $10 million for their fight.
@@G.G.C. you can't do without a lie, Ghana was one of the poorest African countries and where did Ghana get 10million to give!
@@nenitafrica6851 Shame on you. You clearly have no idea of history. At least hate with facts. Liar.
I'm a Nigerian and I'm very proud of the Ghanaian👍
Boniface would have loved sitting with him, they are both great.
same I am Gambian I am very proud of my Ghanaian brother. West Africa is a powerful nations since the Mali Empire
I'm South African and I share your sentiments brother
100% I thought the same, Boniface would represent Nigeria in the following year, I'm sure Alfred was part of his motivation after listening to his interview a year prior.
Nigerian here: also very Proud of West Africa❤️🙏🏽
Abiola Ademolu
If only Boniface was here to represent Nigeria we would have won this round🤨
I really enjoyed this civil discussion. You can learn a lot when there is a common respect to allow each other to speak.
This is what a debate is supposed to look like. Not a competition or a war. Makes you want to agree with everyone at the same time.
This Ghanaian 🇬🇭 Brother came gun-blazing. 🇬🇭🇬🇭🇬🇭🇬🇭🇬🇭🇬🇭🇬🇭🇬🇭
All the way from Nigeria 🇳🇬
They better be happy that he and Boniface were not in the same debate. Their brains😍😍😍
@@darkcontinentschild2962 Nah fr...
Ghana been fighting for Africa since day one.
@@darkcontinentschild2962 that would have been a nuclear problem 😁
Yessirrr 🇳🇬🤝🏾🇬🇭❤️
As a Nigerian, I'm very proud of the Ghanaian. The Ghanian is a true hero.
Yes he did so well he kept the South African on his toes. And the South African was getting angry at him.
The Ghanian looked down on his own people. He even said that he needed Western ideas to bring up Africa, and yet he can't understand why Bantu in South Africa were not ready to run an entire nation.
@@paradigmshift7541 hmmm, where, how did he learn this
@@paradigmshift7541 how can you watch this whole video and yet make the same mistake as the "south african" 60 years later
@@melvinobianyor4919 Why did Africans sell other Africans to slavery? Why don't you care that Africans were sold into slavery?
The world will be fixed, if the Africans that enslaved these Africans and sold them are brought to justice. All humans can understand this. 2022 we are very prosperous around the world, it's time to find out who sold Africans to Europeans.
Thank you, this is such a wonderful corner of the internet. Very fascinating and informative - thank you for sharing this
These*
I absolutely love this conversation
This kid representing Ghana (Gold Coast ) mindset is definitely one of the reason why we got independence!
The first Sub saharan(black) africans to gain independence🇬🇭
Answer this question for me
He displays the brainwashed mindset of that era. His words are really sad. Listen to him closely.
kids then (1956). they are your ancestors now. lol
I like how the brother from the Gold Coast refers black people as Africans and the white people as the colonizers.
AS HE SHOULD🙏🏿
Gold Coast is now called Ghana
He was absolutely right.
Question , where did the so-called white or Caucasian man originally get his education from ? The answer to this will answer a lot of other questions lol
@@zvuv7912 Africa! if you know history
Imagine if we could have honest conversations like this today, 1000% the world would be a better place for it.
This is very interesting. A true civil debate.
Nii, the young man from the Gold Coast (now Ghana), is Dr. Alfred Agyeman Bannerman. He attended Prempeh College (class of 1956). Dr Alfred Agyeman Bannerman is a renowned Neurologist and former Dean of the Columbia Presbyterian Medical School Dept of Neurology in New York. He is now retired and lives part time in Ghana.
Wow!!
that's so great to know
is he dead the other part?
Ahhh… The good old days when there was respect, class, and hospitality. This was so well done.
Which part of Ghana does he live. I will like to meet him one day if possible, can you link me up with him?
I watched that of Boniface Effojaka, and I was so proud of being a Nigerian, and I saw so many Ghanaians saying that they love him. Now tell me Ghanaians, are you not much more proud now seeing this Super brilliant young Kwame defending me as a Christian in Nigeria and the Entire Africa as my father land. 🙌🏽
Why not, super duper proud ✌🏽✌🏽
Yes both of them are true SONS of Africa
As a Ghanaian, I'm PROUD 👏👏👏👏❤️❤️❤️🔥🔥
As a Ghanaian, I'm PROUD 👏👏👏👏❤️❤️❤️🔥🔥
Aren't all Africans African first, do you have to use religion to indicate the otherness. We may hold different faiths in Africa but we Africans must united on one motherland Africa, that should be our guiding principle, let's not nationalism and religious Tribalism divide us.
I'M ABSOLUTELY MIND BLOWN AT THE MATURITY OF THE DISCUSSION! I'M LESS THAN 2 MINUTES IN!!! It's amazing how they communicate try to understand each and where they are coming from.
Awesome Debate..
If everyone could just start off by humbly admitting that they are prejudice, like these guys did, conversations could get MUCH better around difficult topics.
Not only admitting, but also not taking offence and being open and listening to their reasons or perceptions. There is also no belittling or talking over other people. Everyone respects everyone else’s free speech, and lets the person talking say their piece.
You’re right. Humans are an imperfect species just like every other so things like prejudice are completely normal. How you treat people based on your prejudices is different than actually having prejudice. Something that people seem to ignore for some reason.
@@blahblahblah4544 I mean me personally I don’t want to hear why a person is racist when you know that shit is wrong from the start
@@vince11harris yeah but that's a reflection of the people and content that raised them. we're born as blank slates. so if we listen to them (really listen) and explain to them why it's wrong maybe they'll understand it. but if we dismiss their perspective and they get defensive they'll continue to play defense to avoid feeling shame. instead of admitting they're wrong they'll keep pushing to justify they're right. that wall will just keep growing. ask people questions about how and why they feel a certain way and don't counter to win an argument. it's not about winning an argument. this is about making sure people have good values cuz they're gonna raise their kids and grandkids with those values and those people are gonna share the world with our kids and grandkids. it would be wise to help people see why we should respect eachother and you can plant that seed, but not by debating for ego.
Yess everyone has the exact same level of prejudice..
So proud of this Ghanian rep! Imagine Alfred and Boniface against Susan🤣🤣
😂🤣😂 I swear
It would have been interesting
They would have left her speechless cos already when Boniface was speaking facts she had no points to back her up.
😭😭
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Susan will cry. Black intelligence is no game.
Well, I think Alfred's submission is more logical and convincing, as well as objective, and that's not exactly what I can say about Boniface's submission, who seemed more critical and unwilling to understand the other side.
Alfred here, like Amelia, is my favorite of them. They both make it seem like Ghanaians were more sound than others.
They're all brilliant, though. And they show that education has really declined, they are all better, more sound and more intelligent than young/middle age adults of today. And that's sad.
Amazing to hear the level of eloquence and intelligence from these teenagers.
What makes this so effective is they know when to speak and when to listen.
Love how the south african is criticising the way the US treated blacks but was completely fine with the way his own nation treated blacks.
Hmmm lol
His finger was pointing right back at him.
Typical
And saying the N word casually
@@smidgemcgee9609 🧢
I am so glad the moderator allowed bullets fly. She did not try to ruin the flow.
I think it has something to do with her being a black woman, a yt woman would have tried to sabotage it and save her kind. 💀😂
Violence!!! 😂😂 my guy
You very right
@@swidenjil looool exactly 💯
@@swidenjil I would agree with you on that in most cases back then & today. However, the moderator is actually a white journalist named Helen Hiett Waller.
Open discussion on a difficult subject! Great stuff.
Awesome post , intelligent African students 💯👍.
Great post 👏👏
"Excuse me, I'll just come in there."
A much better way to interject politely than just raising your voice and try to talk over someone whose ideas you don't agree with. Kudos to these highschoolers. Informed, articulate, civil.
Also not raised in America
@@IraQNid being raised in America isnt the issue. The issue is the lost of morals and love and consideration for one another and humility before others
@@IraQNidwhen debatescwere civil and people would take 10-30 seconds to speak uninterrupted
In Ghana ,Muslims and Christians live together in peace. I’m a Christian but almost all my friends are Muslims and we eat together.
You won’t know the difference between a Christian and a Muslim in Ghana
My grandmother is a Muslim,We respect her choice and freedom of worship.
They are just religions
In Nigeria its not the same. There is huge difference between the Christian South and the Muslim North. And most times this 2 do not agree. Its a sad situation that has persisted till this day. Believe me if a Southern Christian was there and that Northern Nigerian guy said what he said there would have been a royal rumble.
so true
In Nigeria not possible in the majority Muslim Northern.
The Nigerian issue is more of ethnicity and is skewed along religious lines.It has actually blurred the line between religion and ethnicity.For there are people who profess either Islam or Christianity in almost all the ethnic groups in Nigeria..
Ghanaian Christians and Muslims are living in peace and harmony because the Muslims are in minority. Wait until their population grows and they manage to get political power. Look at how Nigeria and recently Ethiopia is turning out
These debates are awesome.
Thank you for posting this very interesting, high sprited engagement.
Dr Alfred Bannerman formerly a Professor of Neurology at Columbia university. He is now retired ,living the life in Aburi in Ghana.He went to PREMPEH COLLEGE in kumasi
oh that's very nice to know I was going through the comments to see if he's still alive. He makes me proud as a Ghanaian
He’s a Snr 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾
Wow that's nice, I wish him more long life and good health
oh wow...he should be around 80 by now or? I wonder what he thinks of our present situation....he really went in....thats how it should go...use their own words against them....the SA guy was not making sense one bit...superiority in his blood...something I think of as a disease...
Of course...a prempeh college product
Am a Nigerian but am proud of my Ghana brother,
Yes
What were those marks on his face? is that like tribal scarring?
Gold coast is present day Ivory Coast, I think.
@@datman3416 yes it is. It's mostly common with the tribes in Kogi State and Kwara state.
I'm proud of the Ghanaian man.
This is very eye opening especially to see that my opinions are the same as there’s in 2022. It’s just sad that we’re still going through this …..
This is actually amazing and fascinating footage
Priceless! Honest debate.
I tip my hat off to the Ghanaian Dude. Ghana always makes Africa proud. The land of Osagyefo Kwame Nkrumah never fails to represent Africa.
Do you watch other countries or just this? please Ghana has never spoken for Africa, Ghana is the first country in Africa to practice xenophobia in 1969 and deported all Africans in their country and presently refused any African citizen to do business in their country but allow Chinese and other foreigners
@@nenitafrica6851 ok thanks for your ignorance and misinformation, get to know the laws of Ghana n stop lying on things you know nothing about . Ghana laws says you need to hv a specific capital to trade as a retailer if you don’t have that said capital you can only wholesale as a non Ghanaian. Now because these Chinese and other people can afford they register and trade but what other nationals who don’t have that money does is they don’t wholesale but retail which is illegal if you haven’t registered with the said capital. Don’t misinform people on things you do not know
@@worldformatics Oh law of Ghana but you guys said Ghana is speaking for Africa? why don't you say a discriminately law of Ghana and how do you have such law and still have the impudence to say Ghana is fighting for Africa? how many other African countries have such hateful and discriminately law against their fellow Africans? which European, Asian, American, Arab country have such self-centred law against their own kind? such law is a sign of low self-esteem, and if it were in my country, we the citizen will fight for it to be repelled cuz is a slap and insult to the citizens that they aren't proficient enough to take on challenges, it's absurd how some of you defend evil
@@nenitafrica6851 so because we are speaking for Africa we have to allow the laws of the land to be broken right. I can see you are speaking from a place a place of hatred and ignorance on things you don’t know and don’t want to know but that’s ok. The laws will not be bent for the few, there are 55 countries in Africa and you cannot tell me because we all might have the interest of the continent at heart you don’t have to respect and abide by the laws of each individual country and each country doesn’t have their sole laws , and how is this law discriminatory? Did the law mention any African country that it is targeted at ?
@@worldformatics What a primitive retort
As a black South African I am so triggered by the distorted history presented by this white gentleman. My heart bleeds for my parent’s generation. I am so privileged to be here now but I can’t help but feel both angry and sad when watching this.
Sad
Susan from the other debate brought the same bullish!t, but Boniface shut it down!
Me tooo
White gentleman? You mean BOER.
The fact that he himself mentioned that there is only 3 million of them yet they bring his ass to represent South Africa. Disgusting!!!!
Splendid, just an amazing debate.
A great exchange. Well-spoken and well-mannered.
This Northern Nigerian guy gave us a little hint of how long Nigeria have been managing a significant problem. It's long over due🙄
@Lord Mitchell So tell us, how did we get where we are now?
@@obdanny2000 Whitewashing and brainwashing
@@jstreet2852 it's not white washing, but Islamic doctrine.
@@jstreet2852 white as nothing on this, is just the religion crisis.
The Buhari Mindset.
That's what I'll call it
I am Nigerian but now identify as Ghanaian because of how smart this guy is.
I'm German but now identify as Ghanaian.
Lol Ghanaians are way smarter thn Nigerians. It's just tht Ghanaians are very humbled n Nigerians are more show-offie
@@frankielima3262 That's kind of offensive to some, but ok.
Have you watched the next debate on same topic featuring Boniface from Nigeria?
@@inspiredscoop234 no but I will be sure to watch it
I just came from watching A video of one of the subsequent debates pretty similar to this, that held one year after this one. I was utterly blown away, elated and filled with rapturous ecstasy by how Mr Bonniface Offorkaja, represented and projected the intellectual brilliance of not just Nigeria, but Africa as a whole...some how coming to this video e reach aboki turn, everything come different. Chai!
Send a link
That shows you the root of Nigeria's problem. Religious intolerance from the north.
I am an African American woman who is immensely proud of the brother from Ghana. He and his Ancestors showed up for this exchange. Bravo, Brother. Bravo!
African American, what does mean, are you African or American or are you live on two different continents ?
@@gromosawsmiay3000 it’s an ethnicity. Not a nationality sperg. I swear every time you dopes see the word you like to play semantics and dumb.
@@gromosawsmiay3000 a person of African Ancestry but born in America
@@j3culture246 Native Americans are Asian ancestry, Whites are European ancestry, shall we call them Asian American, European American etc.... ??
I think you got my point.
@@Bryn_RaschaulThanks God I'm living in central europe and people here do not have such "problems" of live as you have in America. We have real problems.
No wonder Ghana was first to get independence in Africa. They are very INTELLIGENT❤️❤️❤️🇬🇭🇬🇭🇬🇭and always fight for Africa
yes 👍 indeed and ETHIOPIA HAS NEVER BEEN COLONIZED
Watch the one with Boniface
Very true yes but ethiopia was never colonised n the 1st free africans where in the country of haiti where they defeated the French n fight 4 freedom spread Jamaica other Islands on the carribean. Kwame Nkrumah trained under the guidance of Marcus Garvey in the USA n returned to Ghana an fought 4 Ghanaian freedom. N he carried on Marcus Garveys ideas of 1 free united africa 4 all africans worldwide
@@ssjr3604 they said africans, haiti and jamaica is not african countries
In sub-sahara africa
This is so refreshing to see and disheartening to realize how far our society has declined.
This is not even true
Sure, if you mean how wealth inequality has continued to climb, workers wages have dropped proportional to their productivity, healthcare costs are sky high, the housing market has been infested with landlords, and we still have the same gullible people falling for conspiracy theories and moral panics left and right.
I love this. We need this type of dialogue today. No violence please
🤣 my Ghanaian brother’s “But Why?” got me rolling. History is an amazing source of knowledge.
My favorite subject 💯
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I swear...lmao
The "why" was so funny I laughed till I couldn't hold myself 😂😂😂😂😂
I had to rewind and watch it again🤣🤣🤣🔥🔥
The Ghanian was already in the future! It's amazing to see how matured they all were at the time. The level of education was near perfect compared to now!
Too intelligent for their age
True, I cry everyday upon realising this, we have ignored quality education. Everyone knows it but we just play dumb 😭😭😭😭
Right now the Ghanaian education system is f**ked up
@@faysalkareem2047 faxx lol
Now everyone is twerking on Instagram, starting OF and doing other depraved shit
Good temperaments, brilliant minds and really understood their times.Amazing yet embarrassing to this generation
Incredible video!
The Ghanaian was out with his bazooka. Dude is shooting from all angles🤣🤣
After watching the debate where Boniface Offojaka represented Nigeria, and this one where Aboki is representing us, I can see where the problems of Nigeria emerge from.
E shock you😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂
haaaa lol
Same opinion bro
Laugh wan kill me oo 🤣 🤣
Absolutely fascinating discussion. Incredibly interesting that the arguments from the South African representative are nearly identical to arguments spouted in America.
Talk about free speech! How honest and respectful these young people are. They actually heard one another.
The Ghanaian student uses facts, the South African student uses propaganda.
Propaganda is the way white South Africans were raised. The truth was withheld from them and they were raised in ignorance.
Hello he is white. And speaks bullshit.
why is it so hard to understand the gold coast?
@Soso Mama Stop calling them Africans, they are colonizers. Period!
You are right dear that's what I was thinking
As a Nigerian, I duff my hat to the Ghanaian. Much respect. I hope any of his offspring get to watch this video and be proud.
He is sound but has inferiority complex to Western ideals.
Do you mean the brother from the gold coast?
@@oluwoleadunola9074 Yes... and he's self aware enough to know it...
@@bilhas52 yes
He became a Professor of Surgery at Columbia University until his passing. I went to primary school with one of his sons, Ernest Bannerman in the early 1970s. I wonder what became of Ernest.
Fascinating series of debates. Words like civilized and more progressed are relative terms. I’m impressed by the fact that many of the principles of discrimination have existed since humans arrived on the planet. What does that say about human society?
I love the boy from Ghana. He is so grounded with facts. What a shrewd and objective debater.
The young man from Ghana
This is what they should have showed us all in history class…
Why isn't OUR history OR business really . (US)
Agreed
@@williamcarter7362 huh?
@@Ooooozer321 in the (US), this isn’t really our history or business, unless u have ancestry from the countries represented in the video and even still it isn’t The (US) history
I don't agree with you on this issue because from all Black people on this planet this history is very important very sentimental into understanding where we came from. because this video is an illustration of how the most extreme version of Jim crow was applied to humans and how the the beneficiaries of that system justified it. We in the rest of the world analyze the history of the United States and even though your government doesn't promote it, it is your duty as a human being to understand other problems within the society that we live in globally so that you might be the next person that might contribute to the solving of the issues in an indirect form not even related to politics inorder to solve the issues and understand the people and human beings on the planet.
If you are a self described "African-American" you are as much as an African as me. so this notion that the issues on the mother continent is completely divorced from you then that Notion is completely false because that illustrates an individual that doesn't understand where they came from and will definitely be lost with in the future. not trying to insult you but you have to understand that fact and this applies to all humans. doesn't matter if you're black or not because all humans come from Africa
We could never have debates like this in high school nowadays and it'd be this relaxed. I only graduated a couple months ago, but I'll never forget how childish my last class mates were. It's like they never left middle school.
What you see here are the cream of the crop that have been chosen to sit and debate here. Even back then this type of discourse was difficult to have with just anyone.
Very true! But this is a cultural thing as well. There are many cultures (sadly not typical modern American) where debate is taught in the schools. It's a skill that's taught from elementary. It used to be taught in American schools. I came through in the late 90s and mid 2000s and I caught the tail end of it. Starting in 3rd grade into middle school, we would regularly sit in circles and learn how to take turns discussing topics. The teacher would moderate. As we got older, we would begin to debate. This skill helped me SO much. I can present arguments and points without being angry that the other person doesn't agree and I can question them to try to see things from their side.
I'm a teacher now. We must teach to the state test. The state test is a multiple-choice bubble test. We don't even have writing tests anymore. So, we are forced to teach only the standards that teach students to break down text to find themes, main ideas and make predictions.
We don't teach composition, cursive, debate, or creative writing anymore. Well I DO, but I have to slip it in and when students have not mastered the "tested skills", I have to spent time reviewing those instead. It's very boring for the children and for the teacher.
@@HadassaMoon144 I relate to you 100% … I teach in Atlanta, GA and having to teach state standards is rather mindless at this point. There in no creativity, but like you-I sneak in pertinent skills and information that they need when I can
I left like 8 years ago but my class mates where fine, by 16 everyone had calmed down. Depends on the class I guess.
Most of them will amount to nothing or get bailed out by their rich families.
This is absolutely brilliant showed it to my students today at Lodi High School all my students agree unfortunately we have gone backwards as a society let’s get back to this👊❤️🇺🇸✝️
Amazing. I love all of them. This is democracy, civilization, respect, humanity, kindness.
OMG ! Even though i am a Nigerian ! But this Ghanian man is truly a panafrincan
Do you even know what pan Africanism is.
Man, they now have LGBTABC Ethnicities
The Nigerian delegate in the 1957 debate was just like him. You'd be proud.
Lol
If only people nowadays could be as honest about their prejudices as these high school students.
These conversations cannot happen now it’s sad
We can have these debates. Most white (including those who act white) will not want to hear it. So you just have to dress it up in a way that tricks them. For example, if you are in a Pro-Trump crowd talk about ending outsourcing and the wars. If you are in an Any Blue Will Do crowd than talk about police brutality and raising the minimum wage. Each of these conversations will inevitably lead to race and this way makes it more palatable for Euro-centric folks.
@@Dahlen4Dummies brown and black People have prejudice too. It’s ignorant and disconnected to think this is a ONE race problem....this is a behavioral problem of humanity!! Your comment (“most white people”is an example of prejudice itself. Time to be accountable men vs dividing and assuming you are superior/inferior
@@MegaLadyv I don’t think Dahlen is saying that only whites have prejudice but that they are less willing to have conversations surrounding race.
@@auroraborealis4878 another prejudice right there.
An impressive sharing of opposing opinions. Honest debate, long gone in todays politics. What a shame.
My father, God bless him, was born on August 6 1956 the year these boys were discussing this thing
This Ghanian guy was brilliant. He is the Boniface of this debate.
Why you compare with a Nigerian
😂😂 actually
Oh yeah? I was impressed by both of them. Asides the our ever in going battle for Jollof rice lol, Nigerians and Ghanians definitely rep Africa. Our (Ghanians & Nigerians) confidence, intellect and self awareness is just unbeatable.
His name is Dr Alfred Bannerman
The two are not the same though. Alfred knowledge is way beyond Boniface and Alfred is also a bit aggressive.
Am very proud to be a Ghanaian. Prof. Bannerman stood up for the entire Africa continent like our first president, Dr. Kwame Nkrumah. In fact,African's big problem is religion. Bravo! My Ghanaian brother. May you live long 🇬🇭🇬🇭🇬🇭🇬🇭
Let’s not forget Tribalism
Bring these four gentlemen back together for one more discussion!
It is strange, but this video was filmed sixty-six years ago.
If they were eighteen at the time of the recording, then they are eighty-four years old today.
At least one of them is probably gone by now. Time goes fast.
the type of debate we are missing today because of people's feelings.. most can't handle real talk