If I may add, the late Prof Jawahir Hj Ali, the beautiful Malayan speaker in this debate, was from Kelantan. Her parents were rural folk. Despite adversity and coming from a rural area (kampung), Ms Jawahir persisted and later secured a scholarship to further her PhD study at the University of London, Institute of Education, UK. To see her speaking so eloquently in this debate and later progressed to become an outstanding professor reminds me that we can be the best despite adversity if we put our 100 percent.
so true.. "educated" meant that a person had stored information to use in a debate or a discussion. today, the first reference people think of is the few information they collected from several tiktok videos they've seen recently lmao
Jawahir binti Haji Ali is the Malay Malayan girl in this debate. At last, a representation from the Malayan Malay ethnicity in this debate. Can't really see if she's wearing a baju kurung or kebaya during this debate but she looked really beautiful. Malays would say, " seperti wanita Melayu terakhir"... If she was a teenager in this video, she'd be between 75 - 80 years old in 2021. Hope she's still alive & well. 🌺
@@ahrsjjv sure he said none of what you mention, but from the another video comment section, we can see he was rather defensive on chinese community (understandable for anyone defending their own race) but this bring to another point, there is some fringe community (mainly the vocal one are chinese) always bring the point of hijab(less} and 'tight' kebaya on malay community lifestyle. This group always try subtly implying that Islam destroy the beauty of malay community by their own standard. Malay today are trying to adhere more on the religion rule but they the fringe community are always busy-bodying on what malay community lifestyle is. Malay never busy-bodying with what other cultures do, so why are they (fringe communities) being loud?
@@muhammadaiman6713 mestilah....dekat masa tu rich chinese parents memang ajar anak gitu,walaupun x ajar,dia org mesti belajar dari environment atau parents dia org,she can sit over there must be very smart and rich,I think we all know rich kids behaviour.She still learning modesty at her age that time,now 2021 I think something will change on her mind.
it's a bit of jealousy of losing the world leaders status to america. culturally also slightly true, america feels superficial to traditional societies
Imagine growing up in a country which has took over the entire world. You have been reading the books written by UK scholars from a positive perspective. You obviously will be under the impression that you have helped the world. Hence comes the superiority. Also it's an international stage and are representing your country. It's easy to point out someone in the wrong and it's equally tough for the person in the wrong to defend. Hence the debates are paning out the way they did
19:46 The Italian calls Indian stupid! Then Italian tries to backtrack on the statement, but Indian guy says "but now you said it and it's been recorded" 🥲
He didn't call stupid to indian delegate. He referred Russian leader Nikolai Bulganin as a 'stupid fella' bcz of his reservation towards soviet Union, which is really uncalled for.
The Indian guy was knowledgeable but he never saw the bigger picture, he never researched how those information he had about U.S was what the U.S wanted him to believe. Whatever the U.S did was ultimately for their own benefit.
Though people here saying Indian guy a disappointment I think he was most confident , firm , most spoken in this debate I like his boss like attitude Actually i like all except italy one he was in camouflage of being good which was again and again revealed by indian guy
Holy crap, that Korean guy's English is really good. I'm Korean born and raised in USA, the stereotype of Koreans that moved to America usually have a very strong obvious accent.
@@garrettallen7427 I think it's all about the stereotipical protestant way of life: in short, if you work hard during your mortal life, God loves you and you'll have a seat in paradise. He probably said that with this in mind, thinking that Usa's people don't have a spirit of sacrifice per sè.
Considering the millions of Korean civilians Americans sacrificed? I see what you mean. Americans love sacrifice, but I don't think it's their own they like. You could say they sacrificed fighting for "freedom" but I can't exactly tell how our freedoms ended up in Korea and why we had to kill so many to get them back. I think if we were going to talk about American soldiers and sacrifice we should probably talk about them in the same way as Roman soldiers and sacrifice. It's so sad that they hurt themselves attacking innocent people. Boohoo.
That Italian guy thought very less of America Chitranjan bhaiya persona is cool headed.He quite often has diff of opinion with others but he doesn't take it personally on him
India's still doing it.Suprisingly nothing much has changed in last 100 years,here we are again with the Russian invasion of Ukraine, West all up against Russia and india finding a middle path.
The Italian boy's frequent 'what do you think about it' speech makes it funny how he makes assertions, and still asks for your opinion. Sounds less like a Godfather-mafioso-kingpin who cares nothing what anybody thinks about anything :)
How were some of these kids from non British colonial/non european countries learning to speak English? I just can't understand how anyone developed a spoken fluency before the internet, especially if they came from a country like Korea where the first American (I assume English speaker too) they had ever seen was a soldier handing out chocolate.
If it helps...I was an exchange student😂 to USA back in 88’. I finished my studies of english language by the age of 15. I am from the northeast of Brazil. I did not meet one American until my last year of practice when we finally had an american teacher exclusively for pronunciation class. We did not have internet of course, so, we learned what was possible from the books and the tapes we listened to. Music was another great source especially for pronunciation. When I was in a school in Indiana, my english was good enough for me. I even had my english teacher telling my fellow students to say good-bye on the occasion of my return , telling that my english was better than most kids from school which made some of them state that they thought I was american. That made me laugh because I am SOUTH AMERICAN. Just another kind of american. Anyway, 30 years apart from these kids. I hope they had access to tapes or native teachers.
Just my opinion. They should have included the Filipino delegate in this debate because he talks with sense and reality, not just based in books or news in radios. I am sure, he could have added more intellectual comments about US Sacrifice and anything in relation to it.
haha Readers Digest condensed or unabridged? Makes no sense sizing up America by it's literature. Because literature is created by individuals trying to make every reader happy, and in this case created for an ever expanding world of readers. It was not supposed to be for deep thinkers it was created for wide audiences. Young and Old, English speaker or not.
So? It's also not called simply Korea, it's called the Republic of Korea. ...maybe you can tell the up-loader nicely. It's pretty nice that we can even have such videos!
that italian boys southern (sicillian) fellas are mobsters in america , they captured new jersy, ney york , chicago etc. he is a real TOUGH guy and maybe the indian guy should keep admit it.
11:40 India is not closer to China anymore, due to aksai Chin claims done by China. But India is not closer to US anymore either, since US supported Pakistan during Cold Wars and few journalists even justify British colonial rule.
The Italian boy was smart and proud of his heritage. I was expecting much more from the Indian given his own cultural heritage, but this kid was a disappointment.
@@user-cp3wc5yj3g It was the right stand he put forward with ref. to India's foreign policy..viz. that India wanted a wide circle of friends and not take sides in global geopolitics ie to be neutral....he even pointed out that, Bulganin, during his visit to India, criticised the West, and , as a result , Indian govt was not happy with Bulganin breaking the protocol... I think Chitranjan was pretty good, his comments & opinions were mature, measured & very intelligent & pretty much aligned with Indian govt's non- aligned status....
This Kapoor was a very let down of Indian group. All other Indians like Nalini Nayar, Raj n Krishna were very sharp, objective and precise in their thoughts and words. But here Mr Kapoor , I am finding lack of that intellectual prowess like other team members. He must have been selected by corrupted methods. An intelligent guy from West Bengal State would have a better choice to represent India in this forum.
I found him best of the lot lol , he is straight forward and doesn't mess around , speaks his my , isn't overly diplomatic and understands stuff you are saying this because of his English
The intolerance and the ignorant comment by you in this internationally accessible forum is what represents a let down. I am finding lack of intellectual prowess in your comment like others. You must have made a living by corrupted methods. A racist who hates Indians would have left a better comment than you in this forum.
No! Never should be ONLY MALAY to represent Malaya/Malaysia.. they should be also Chinese, Indian, Iban, Kadazandusun, Orang Asli, Peranakan or even the Malaccan Portuguese/Eurasian/Kristang as long as they are Malaysian and well raised with the right values of a true Malaysian
Agreed with ridhuan. Those who represent malaya/malaysia should carries patriotism value in themselves. They should seen themselve as Malaysian not a representative of their own race.
If I may add, the late Prof Jawahir Hj Ali, the beautiful Malayan speaker in this debate, was from Kelantan. Her parents were rural folk. Despite adversity and coming from a rural area (kampung), Ms Jawahir persisted and later secured a scholarship to further her PhD study at the University of London, Institute of Education, UK. To see her speaking so eloquently in this debate and later progressed to become an outstanding professor reminds me that we can be the best despite adversity if we put our 100 percent.
Thanks for the info dude . These are such inspirational people .
Thankyouu for the info❤️❤️❤️
I love how their debate is not too following their emotion but more to their own intelligence and wisdom
so true.. "educated" meant that a person had stored information to use in a debate or a discussion. today, the first reference people think of is the few information they collected from several tiktok videos they've seen recently lmao
Idk truth and emotion can be very good
That Malaya’s girl is so sweet and her English is good too
Jawahir binti Haji Ali is the Malay Malayan girl in this debate.
At last, a representation from the Malayan Malay ethnicity in this debate.
Can't really see if she's wearing a baju kurung or kebaya during this debate but she looked really beautiful. Malays would say, " seperti wanita Melayu terakhir"...
If she was a teenager in this video, she'd be between 75 - 80 years old in 2021. Hope she's still alive & well. 🌺
@@maxmy2007 hah i see u on another video about the rude chinese malaya video
Why would u care malay woman wear hijab or not, its their on choice
@@muhammadaiman6713 he said nothing wrong tho… malay girl are pretty without hijab on… and he said nothing offensive about malay woman also…
@@ahrsjjv sure he said none of what you mention, but from the another video comment section, we can see he was rather defensive on chinese community (understandable for anyone defending their own race)
but this bring to another point, there is some fringe community (mainly the vocal one are chinese) always bring the point of hijab(less} and 'tight' kebaya on malay community lifestyle. This group always try subtly implying that Islam destroy the beauty of malay community by their own standard. Malay today are trying to adhere more on the religion rule but they the fringe community are always busy-bodying on what malay community lifestyle is. Malay never busy-bodying with what other cultures do, so why are they (fringe communities) being loud?
@@muhammadaiman6713 mestilah....dekat masa tu rich chinese parents memang ajar anak gitu,walaupun x ajar,dia org mesti belajar dari environment atau parents dia org,she can sit over there must be very smart and rich,I think we all know rich kids behaviour.She still learning modesty at her age that time,now 2021 I think something will change on her mind.
Oh my god, it's 2021, stop seeing people by their race and more on what they represent
Sorry to say, but of all the debates I've seen so far all Europeans have a sense of superiority for no reason. Maybe it has vanished with time.
it's a bit of jealousy of losing the world leaders status to america. culturally also slightly true, america feels superficial to traditional societies
Depends where u look. Look in the balkans post-ww2 and most countries are mentally crushed
Right? Especially from UK, some even try to defend colonialism!
@@manishhb7864 Americans come from those "traditional societies" however, so it's incorrect
Imagine growing up in a country which has took over the entire world. You have been reading the books written by UK scholars from a positive perspective. You obviously will be under the impression that you have helped the world. Hence comes the superiority. Also it's an international stage and are representing your country. It's easy to point out someone in the wrong and it's equally tough for the person in the wrong to defend. Hence the debates are paning out the way they did
19:46 The Italian calls Indian stupid! Then Italian tries to backtrack on the statement, but Indian guy says "but now you said it and it's been recorded" 🥲
He didn't call stupid to indian delegate. He referred Russian leader Nikolai Bulganin as a 'stupid fella' bcz of his reservation towards soviet Union, which is really uncalled for.
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The Indian guy was knowledgeable but he never saw the bigger picture, he never researched how those information he had about U.S was what the U.S wanted him to believe. Whatever the U.S did was ultimately for their own benefit.
the malayan girl has the exact british accent since the malaya was still under british colonialisation in 1956
Yupppp
Though people here saying Indian guy a disappointment
I think he was most confident , firm , most spoken in this debate
I like his boss like attitude
Actually i like all except italy one he was in camouflage of being good which was again and again revealed by indian guy
I feel his way of speaking makes him a disappointment, while his knowledge according to me contradicts the previous statement
"I'm so disappointed", said she while smiling. Lol
She was a mood
Thanks for uploading these rarities!
Holy crap, that Korean guy's English is really good. I'm Korean born and raised in USA, the stereotype of Koreans that moved to America usually have a very strong obvious accent.
True, and also the Malaysian girl, considering.
I think the teacher said he listened to hours and hours of US news to practice his accent.
The beef between india and Italy made me slurp on my tea.
Lol 😂
Thanks for these these are very insightful of the past.
i showed this video to my fiance who is korean and he says the korean guy did lectures at his uni :o so thats interesting
wow!
The Korean man was very intelligent in his youth 🎉🎉❤
It's real rich for an Italian to tell a Korean person that Americans don't have a spirit of sacrifice!
I think this Italian kid is so rude. He still seems to live in 1913... before Italy was messed up by wars and stagnation.
@@JerjerB I don’t think he’s rude he says what he says is the opinion of his countrymen not necessarily his own, so I think it’s more of that...
@@garrettallen7427 I think it's all about the stereotipical protestant way of life: in short, if you work hard during your mortal life, God loves you and you'll have a seat in paradise. He probably said that with this in mind, thinking that Usa's people don't have a spirit of sacrifice per sè.
Considering the millions of Korean civilians Americans sacrificed? I see what you mean. Americans love sacrifice, but I don't think it's their own they like. You could say they sacrificed fighting for "freedom" but I can't exactly tell how our freedoms ended up in Korea and why we had to kill so many to get them back. I think if we were going to talk about American soldiers and sacrifice we should probably talk about them in the same way as Roman soldiers and sacrifice. It's so sad that they hurt themselves attacking innocent people. Boohoo.
@@tyrozinehappykitchen you spoke facts
watching this in 2022 n the situation feels the same
Malaysia didn't exist in 1956. It's Malaya.
Well... maybe you can tell the up-loader nicely. It's pretty nice that we can even have such videos!
@@JerjerB did I stutter?
@@imfromtambunan never
but malaya is malaysia?? im confused sorry
@@gen3286 Malaysia is a federation between Sabah, Sarawak, Malaya and formerly Singapore.
What does the word America mean to you?
Mcdonald's, Guns, Oil and Freedom.
"Murica fuck yeah" some dude from malaysia
The so call friendship between India and Russian stand till now 🤩
huh russia is now chinas stepknee
0:02 the timing was perfect for a "It was Agatha all along!!"
That Italian guy thought very less of America
Chitranjan bhaiya persona is cool headed.He quite often has diff of opinion with others but he doesn't take it personally on him
i like how india handled this anti communist narrative
India's still doing it.Suprisingly nothing much has changed in last 100 years,here we are again with the Russian invasion of Ukraine, West all up against Russia and india finding a middle path.
27:29 he's referring to the cold war, amazing!
At the end did that Korean kid predict the conflicts that arose in the middle east?
To the first guy it's chocolate 🤣
Now if they are alive they will know that ...Every man for themselves. Friendships are purely based on self interest.
The Italian boy's frequent 'what do you think about it' speech makes it funny how he makes assertions, and still asks for your opinion. Sounds less like a Godfather-mafioso-kingpin who cares nothing what anybody thinks about anything :)
19:23 the subheading says “did you see putin in india” but they were talking about Khrushchev and Bulganin. Putin was just born in the 50s
21:19 did he fall asleep? i love Indian guy though hes so deadpan. I can tell he and Italian have beef
No, probably he was thinking of the question as it was a very peculiar one
He stayed out till 430 last night that's why it's in the intro
@Games Account 😆
@@mayurmalusare11 where did you get this?
I didn't see it??
@@iamalorasoof3467 00:51
This Italian is a visionary. How on dot!
1950s, Korea was very poor and there was no proper English dictionary. It's amazing how hard the Korean boy tried to be there.
He was one of richest family members His father was friend of President at that time
LOVELY BRITISH MALAYA ACCENT.. TRULY BRITISH.
lets have the same discussion with the present day students 2021 ...m sure different response.
That would be fun to see
India policy same
How were some of these kids from non British colonial/non european countries learning to speak English? I just can't understand how anyone developed a spoken fluency before the internet, especially if they came from a country like Korea where the first American (I assume English speaker too) they had ever seen was a soldier handing out chocolate.
If it helps...I was an exchange student😂 to USA back in 88’. I finished my studies of english language by the age of 15. I am from the northeast of Brazil. I did not meet one American until my last year of practice when we finally had an american teacher exclusively for pronunciation class. We did not have internet of course, so, we learned what was possible from the books and the tapes we listened to. Music was another great source especially for pronunciation. When I was in a school in Indiana, my english was good enough for me. I even had my english teacher telling my fellow students to say good-bye on the occasion of my return , telling that my english was better than most kids from school which made some of them state that they thought I was american. That made me laugh because I am SOUTH AMERICAN. Just another kind of american. Anyway, 30 years apart from these kids. I hope they had access to tapes or native teachers.
Chocolate
America means to me: obesity and Mcdonald. How about to you?
BLM
@@username_PK true.
Land of karens and darrens, and this is from me in malaysia
Diverse n Fast food
@@maxwellpeter5955 ceh, such a karen, nak apply rule kat negara dia tu ke sini pula, suka hati nenek dia saja, ini hak saya ini hak saya (in English)
Lol America means chocolate 🤣
Frenchies was bang on the dot and that’s the reason they are so secular and progressive in one direction !
Is the Italian guy really Italian???
As you watch to the end you can see how the italian boy lack respect
He's being honest
@@tyrozinehappykitchen
Being honest and disrespectful are 2 diff things
The Italian kid is so arrogant and irritating lmfao I love these videos though
Korean guy said America means chocolate
That italian kid look like he at a table of mafias🤣 just kidding.
Good kids
Just my opinion. They should have included the Filipino delegate in this debate because he talks with sense and reality, not just based in books or news in radios. I am sure, he could have added more intellectual comments about US Sacrifice and anything in relation to it.
Il bro è sicuro del sud tirol con quell'accento tedesco lmao
o italiano ainda estava triste por ter perdido a guerra. rs
wow indians were defending America even back then. obsession never ends
The korean kid is mvp
I love how the Italian boi speaks
haha Readers Digest condensed or unabridged? Makes no sense sizing up America by it's literature. Because literature is created by individuals trying to make every reader happy, and in this case created for an ever expanding world of readers. It was not supposed to be for deep thinkers it was created for wide audiences. Young and Old, English speaker or not.
They ignored the Malaysian girl too much.
Who z dat indian intellectual
Is call Malaya not Malaysia...
So? It's also not called simply Korea, it's called the Republic of Korea. ...maybe you can tell the up-loader nicely. It's pretty nice that we can even have such videos!
@@JerjerB just keep ur mouth shut
@@billy-ps7jz didn't have to open my mouth... Maybe I should keep my fingers still for you, Master Blaster.
@@JerjerB what he said is correct. By 1956 there are no malaysia yet. It was call malaya.
Now I know why Italian sided with Nazi
For me looted land
that italian boys southern (sicillian) fellas are mobsters in america , they captured new jersy, ney york , chicago etc. he is a real TOUGH guy and maybe the indian guy should keep admit it.
11:40 India is not closer to China anymore, due to aksai Chin claims done by China. But India is not closer to US anymore either, since US supported Pakistan during Cold Wars and few journalists even justify British colonial rule.
Italian is right about america haha.
America is not generous at all🤣
Indian delegated disappointed me
Why?
What disappointment you found?
@@kashutosh9132 you can judge by yourself. It means mostly you talk conventional things and not what you really believe in by yourself.
@@adfohukafoju5759
I judged him and I found him smart and his ideas meaningful and something that makes sense to me
That's why I asked the ques of why
I don't think that at all. Infact, he appeared to be the guy with a greater conviction than the remaining three of them.
You are a disappointment
The Italian boy was smart and proud of his heritage. I was expecting much more from the Indian given his own cultural heritage, but this kid was a disappointment.
He correctly represented India's stand at that time...
@@RajaRam-xx1kp Which was no stand.
@Nidhi Roy yep he was a successful businessman who worked in London, India, Africa, and the middle east. He's retired now at 86
@@user-cp3wc5yj3g
It was the right stand he put forward with ref. to India's foreign policy..viz. that India wanted a wide circle of friends and not take sides in global geopolitics ie to be neutral....he even pointed out that, Bulganin, during his visit to India, criticised the West, and , as a result , Indian govt was not happy with Bulganin breaking the protocol...
I think Chitranjan was pretty good, his comments & opinions were mature, measured & very intelligent & pretty much aligned with Indian govt's non- aligned status....
@@SuperCOCOPANDA what's his full name
This Kapoor was a very let down of Indian group. All other Indians like Nalini Nayar, Raj n Krishna were very sharp, objective and precise in their thoughts and words. But here Mr Kapoor , I am finding lack of that intellectual prowess like other team members. He must have been selected by corrupted methods. An intelligent guy from West Bengal State would have a better choice to represent India in this forum.
He stayed out till 430 last night that's why maybe it's in the intro and please don't speculate if you don't know nothing
Why you think such of Chintranjan?
I find him competent and smart
All his ideas and opinion were also good to great extent
Wow, an 'intelligent' guy from West Bengal why so specifically tho?
I found him best of the lot lol , he is straight forward and doesn't mess around , speaks his my , isn't overly diplomatic and understands stuff you are saying this because of his English
The intolerance and the ignorant comment by you in this internationally accessible forum is what represents a let down. I am finding lack of intellectual prowess in your comment like others. You must have made a living by corrupted methods. A racist who hates Indians would have left a better comment than you in this forum.
As usual Indian is ching chak and jaldra about Americans
Only Malays should represent Malaya/Malaysia perspective! Not Chinese like previous video I watch!
No! Never should be ONLY MALAY to represent Malaya/Malaysia.. they should be also Chinese, Indian, Iban, Kadazandusun, Orang Asli, Peranakan or even the Malaccan Portuguese/Eurasian/Kristang as long as they are Malaysian and well raised with the right values of a true Malaysian
BOB Burhan?
Not Orang Asli only Tuan BOB Burhan?
Agreed with ridhuan. Those who represent malaya/malaysia should carries patriotism value in themselves. They should seen themselve as Malaysian not a representative of their own race.
Why should only Malay be represented? Not only Malays who live in Malaysia…bruh