Lost "Maysym" Asymmetrical Surfboard Review by Noel Salas Ep 77
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The new Lost “Maysym” is a great introduction to Asymmetrical surfboard design. This board has a Rocket tail with a longer rail line on the toe side and round tail with a shorter rail line on the heel side.
The two different tails put together make it an Asymmetrical design to offer a different feel underfoot compared to your normal Symmetrical surfboard. On my toe side I could generate speed easily due to the longer rail line. It also has a single channel on the toe side adding extra tail rocker for traction, drive, and vertical pocket surfing.
The heel side of this board has a round tail with a shorter rail line that enables you to turn faster on your front side cutbacks, top turns, and round house cutbacks. I also noticed the quick bottom turns backside due to the shorter rail line in addition to the drive and hold a round tail offers.
The Maysym goes good front side and back side, and I highly recommend it as a small wave Groveler for 1-4’ waves. This board is ideal for intermediate to advanced level surfers looking for a fresh feeling under foot. Ride it as a Thruster for more pivot or ride it as Quad for a looser feel with a little extra speed.
Board Dimensions:
Stock 5’3” x 19.25 x 2.28 Liters 26.5
My Height: 5’9”
Weight: 160 lbs or 72.57 kg - Krátké a kreslené filmy
I’ve been riding asymmetrical boards for a number of years now and can attest to the performance. I’m actually amazed more pros haven’t discovered it and explored shapes. Surfing is an inherently asymmetrical sport
Shawn Riley Pretty impressed with the performance of this Asymmetrical design in general l. Thanks for posting.
Because pros have been used to adjust their surfing when they go frontside/backside. Once you figure out whats happening backside vs frontside you adjust, it s just natural for pros. If they start to go asymm then they step out of what they know.
Never ridden an asymm but from the logic of it all it wouldn't surprise me if all boards are made that way in 10 years.
This is by far the most comprehensive review of a first time asymmetric experience I've seen.
I haven't found a single other review that goes this deep! The fact that Noel went out of his way to try a goofy for comparison was phenomenal!!
Through the direct comparison the actually functional purpose of board asymmetry was highlighted brilliantly.
While also implicitly resolving the common misconception of asymmetric outlines being directional in relation to the wave rather than the rider.
As others have stated I really believe that the future of board design is asymmetry. Understandably uptake amongst surfers who've grown up with symmetric shapes is limited by the simple fact that this seems new, different, and novel; as well as feeling alien to riders who've developed to compensate for board symmetry.
While a whole new generation of groms (and late learners like myself) are coming into a world of surfboards and surfboard media that is dramatically different from the 90s and 00s when todays champions were pushed into whitewater.
As well as a new generation of shapers keen to try new and unique things like the guys who cut their teeth in the 70s
The next 20 years of surfing is only going to see more and more board diversity and progression away from the 6', squash, thruster.
Hell, even Slaters designs have moved towards progress and innovation (Even if they're all meant to be ridden tiny).
Here's to a future full of sick boards and copious amounts of stoke.
Nice, clean backside 360 on the face. Great technique.
Awesome review , as always!
Cheers from Scotland!
Sick review my man. Board looked solid under foot. Still loving that RNF Retro too. Yew!
Thanks Noel! Great review once again
So cool! Love your reviews!
Excellent surfing Noel!!!!
I rode a demo 5’’3” today as a quad in weak but fun HB. These things are sick!!!
Adam Newsom Epic... thanks for posting!! Are you getting one?
Surf n Show Reviews I am. I might get the 5’1 or maybe even the next one up. I like the volume of the 5’3”, but I would like to shorten up a little. Im 5’5” and 140, my arms are short so any help with paddling is key. What are your thoughts on increasing the thickness and width slightly? Do you think it would change the characteristics or performance negatively? By the way I enjoy your analysis, you are providing useful information with the use surfing footage of yourself, that’s awesome.
Adam Newsom If you keep it PU then you should be ok... not too much thickness and width. If you go CW EPS then don’t go thicker just go a little wider. You want to sink the rail quickly and hold the board on rail and if there is too much float you will struggle.
so interesting to see this. for the average joe its a pretty big step to commit to buying an asymmetrical board, its great to get some real objective feedback on how the asym works from the surfers perspective. thumbs up :)
george norcott Stoked you liked... the know boards are expensive. I hope this reviews helps with what a surfer can expect our this model. Cheers
Finally you got on a asym bro I just got one and once I got used to it I love how it turns off the heels thanks for the review
Kahele Koki Epic... stoked you found a sick one too.
Noel salas review is the best show in the net.
X -MAN X MAN Cheers
@@surfnshowreviews7777 baby bugy.and the phantom.your best surfboard reveiws for my opinion.cheets
Lost new uber driver xl
El patron...
Look great.cheers
Hands down Noel BEST board ever from you
Matt is a clever business man and knows than the public is not ready for a radical asym, so this one is subtle to have some asym flavor but still be a seller. I wonder how hard it has been to get shops to stock it
I think this is your most interesting review yet. Really cool how you're explaining what's happening with the board and illustrating with the clip. Great surfing also. I always find a fish with a big/wide swallow tail almost impossible to surf backside. I wonder if that''s because of that long heel rail line fighting me. Also, if you were to try a keel on one side and quad on the other, which side gets the twin fin, heel or toe? Porb quad on heel I'm thinking. Thanks for all the reviews and knowledge.
Philip Kelly The Twin fin would go on the toe side, Quad on the heel. Not sure how that would work on this model but try it and see how it goes.
BACKSIDE 360!!! Yeah Noel! Where do I get one of those racks bro?
Again ! another solid video!
Any further testing done on this bad boy?
Looks great, sounds great on paper.
Would you say this shape feels pretty run of the mill? Or is there some small/medium wave magic here?
I’m bouncing around between a few grovelers and this shape. Leaning more toward the Maysym atm.
You are the only one who has really reviewed this in detail let alone underfoot. As usual, the absolute best! Thanks Noel!
There is a bit of magic on this little board for sure. Super easy to shred head high waves and smaller with speed. It’s loose and fast.
Super Review !! Thanks
Loved it, thanks for the review! Just saw some of the other Lost models out this year...is an Evil Twin coming? Or maybe the Mayhem + MR?
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Oh great, thank you! I have a feeling that could be a winner.
Wow, great explanation
Noel - When you are assessing the speed dynamics of the quad vs. thruster setups, this arguably the most important surfboard attribute in performance surfing. However as you allude to in your board analysis, it does however seem difficult to tell the differences in speed by just the footage or "feel" alone. To obtain a more objective and numerical viewpoint, maybe try using one of the Rip Curl Search 2 GPS watches to track your speed on waves so you can compare different fins, boards, etc. I have one of these and it is pretty cool what you can do with the tracking data. Just a suggestion you could use to really dive deeper into board mechanics in your testing. Love the reviews, keep 'em coming - except that they make me want all of the boards!
JPegs Thanks for your post... I used to use Trace Up to get all of that type of Data. I found the Trace unit to be a bit more accurate compared to the Rip Curl Watch. I had the first generation watch and it was pretty cool but the more I used it the less accurate I found it to be. Wave counting was the obvious way for me to check that.
At one point I was using the Trace Unit and watch at the same time and neither stats were very close to one another. Maybe the newer version of Rip Curl Watch is better.
Stoked to hear it’s working good for you. Cheers.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 I have a trace but have been using it less and less since the company dropped the surfing/action sports and moved completely over to soccer a couple yeas ago. Also, you have to put a mount on every single board you test, which would probably be quite a hassle for you! I can't speak for the first gen watch but the GPS 2 is pretty good, might be worth a look into. Thanks for the reply buddy and keep shreddin'!
good review. thnx man!
Just got this board and will try it tomorrow at Oceanside!! 4 to 5 ft!! I am thinking if I use 3 or quad set up.
Go Thruster in bigger surf
Definitely the most progressive surfing I've seen you do on small waves out of all the boards you've reviewed. Question: Is the concave symmetrical relative to the stringer? For instance, if it had a vee coming out the back, would it come off dead centre of the stringer or leaning more towards one side?
Valdo van Zyl I think it would lean more to one side if it had a channel on one side like this Maysym. Some of the Asymmetrical designs are extreme that I have seen... off center stringer, twisted rocker, crazy tails, different fin placements, twin fin toe side Quad heel side... etc.
Nice footage quality.
bodhi tree Cheers!!! We spent some cash to upgrade the quality of our show. Thanks for noticing.
Hey Noel,
i really appreciate your work, and i was really waiting for this, but in this review there is something that sounds strange to me.
You said that on a round tail the water line is shorter, but at the same time you said that round house are longer. I can't really understand. I believe that the water line is longer on the round tail, because on a squash or similar you have a break point that helps the release way before the round tail.
I believe also that because of the fact it is rounded, when you push on it and you are going on the backside, it starts turning before(because it is more rounded) if compared to a squash tail that has a rail line more straight than that.
So the main advantage is that it starts turning before a squash tail, but the arching turn would be larger compared to a squash version(more straight rail line) where, when you reach the tail it pivots better and the board starts to be more vertical and radical.
Just my opinion, and can be wrong Noel. I just want to say again thanks for your work.
Marco Renzi On this board the toe side rail is a little longer and you can really see it with a straight edge on it. The toe side is also a Rocket tail and the pivot/channel is where the rail line ends and the water breaks off. The rail line is pretty long and has a good amount of surface area on the toe side too compared to the heel side.
The heel side has the round tail and the rail line is shorter... and it looks to be pulled in slightly compared to the toe side. Maybe check one out in person and you will see what I am talking about.
This board does not have the extreme tail designs like most Asymmetrical designs out there where the toe side is 2-3” longer compared to the heel side. However the Asymmetrical feel is there offering quick heel side turns.
Surf n Show Reviews thanks Noel! I hope to see on the next review the sub driver swallow compared to the sub driver and showing pros and cons of each one! Keep going!!!
Hi Salas, I like this board but yesterday I bought a rusty surfboard model Dwart. Do you think it's good to surf in very small waves 1-2 ft or would be better buy another like this Lost "Maysym" and use my Dwart to better waves? Have any review about Dwart surfboard?
I wonder if you can use a normal fin + quad trailer in one side and a twinfin on the other
daniel vb That would be a fun experiment... maybe you should give it a try and let us know?
please do another review on the fever but this time with Spine-Tek
This is the winner in stab in the dark
I've been interested in asymetrical boards since they first came out. But I thought in your review of the Seaside that it seemed to flow effortlessly compared to the maysym. Seaside vs Maysym? What if Machado did an asym version of the seaside?
Have you contacted Album about their asym?
Thanks!
Looks good in Quad and Tri fin. Cheeky Barrel and reverse. Booties Brah?
Great review Noel, ripping on both fin set ups. Looked to me like you were a bit smoother with the quad. Thinking about trying the KA large fronts with the Reactor medium rears in my 5'5" PJHP...good set up right? Been riding the Reactor larges in front and medium rears but the board still seems like it could be better....thanks.
Christian69James It might go pretty good... I think the KA fins might have a little too much rake for that wide PJHP. Maybe the Perfomers or Medina’s. Some neutral might work a little better.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 thanks Noel...cheers!
Christian69James might be the reactor quad rears that are the issue. I use Matt Biolos or Hayden shapes quad rears. I use KA lge in the side if I need to get down the line fast or lge Hayden’s in the side In more pockety waves.
In smaller, tighter waves I use Medium Filipe in the side and aircore sml quad rears in the back. Feels great with all set ups.
My mate who works for Mayhem also swears by the Lge Hayden set up as a quad.
@@richardembery thanks for the info, I appreciate it.
Have you experimented with a long center fin and shorter side fins in a thruster setup? If so, then what were the results? More drive, loose/tight, faster?
UniqueStranger Only tried it one time... not enough testing for me to give feedback yet. Sorry
Great style to explain and to surf. Only a question, how's this board on aerials manouvers?
Carlo Grotti Trevisan Kolohe and the Lost team guys are making it look pretty easy on this model. Sorry I’m not the air guy...
@@surfnshowreviews7777 you got great surf too! ;)
I see you got a hefty heel pressure ding on that red board. How's the integrity of the glassing? If i get a custom would you recommend a heavier glassing?
marchal charcharr Mine were glasses pretty light. I would go with stock glassing... not too light and not too heavy.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 awesome, thanks man. Keep ripping, and i hope you get to go on some surf trips up the coast in the future
hey bud, love the reviews. im interested in the retro ripper by lost. you doing one on those? u tore those poor lil waves to pieces btw!
beelovessteve Stoked you like the review!! I am not doing a review on the Retro Ripper at this time but I am doing one on the Rad Ripper. Sorry
all good bud. can't do em all. cheers@@surfnshowreviews7777
The quad looks pretty loosey goosey🤙
hi Noel how do yo think this board compared to the rocket wide and great review thanks
Stephen Chard That’s a good comparison... both boards do tight turns in the pocket for small wave performance boards. I would say the Maysym has a little better wave range at 1-5’ and the RW is 1-3’ maybe 4’ at most.
Read my mind , thanks for riding this board going regular on a goofy stance tail.
Mark Yoshida Curiosity was killing me...
Would I go with my normal volume for this hybrid? Thanks for the video
KC C I could have gone up 1 liter on this one and been good too. It’s very responsive
@@surfnshowreviews7777 I am really digging your videos hey quick question how old are you man you're really inspiring
KC C I just turned 46 in December. Cheers
Do u think it matters if I were to buy the regular footed one bc I’m goofy but seem to be able to adjust to any board but am just wondering your opinion on it because I cannot find a goofy foot for the price I can get the one I’m looking at.
Kevin Mckeever It matters... I don’t recommend you get a Maysym made for a Regular footer if your Goofy footed. Sorry
What were the flaws of riding the boards if it’s the opposite position?
Kevin Mckeever The board and I argued on every turn. It was catching and bogging a bunch
where can I purchase one?
Luke Shuman Click on the “Where to Buy” below in the CZcams comment field. If you don’t see a board there... shoot the folks at Lost a quick email to find a shop near you.
Nice review, but get your terms straight. You keep calling a Curvier Rail Outline a Shorter Rail Outline, when it isn't here, and a Straighter Rail Outline a Longer Rail Outline, when it isn't here. And not just any cavity, such as that channel, is a concave. A concave works in the fore and aft direction by the back end's "reverse rocker" acting like a hook in a boat hull, to provide lift there, and in the sideways direction, when laying it on a rail, or trimming on the face, by providing potential energy through resistance. Which a channel also does in the sideways direction, but, since it is a panel fore and aft, not a concave, it doesn't provide lift from just one spot like a hook, but instead acts more like a strake, by channeling water.
im just wondering where these waves are, I know you surf lowers a lot, but its been dumping rain and crappy for weeks
Booty and Barrels It’s a secret...
Surf n Show Reviews Surf n show moved to Costa Rica? ;)
Booty and Barrels Sounds like a good move to me...
Surf n Show Reviews is it in OC? or could u give us a hint.... 😂
Bryan K. Nope... ha ha
Ive ridden some much more dramatic a syms and sometimes the more dramatic the shape the better. But there is a fine line on too far. Ryan Burch makes it look easy
Ryan Burch has altogether too much fun 🤣
have you ever tried the china knock-off fins?
Jeff Rickerson nope sorry
i have, they can ride good as branded fins i feel. It just depends on the template, flex and thickness. Some can have weaker tabs but mostly good value and performance.
Jeff Rickerson What are those called?
Please do a review of the disasym by album
Kahele Koki Matt shaped me one a while ago and I could not stop it from sliding out. We are going to try something else together soon.
are you gonna review the lost cobra killer or the evil twin?
Brandon Lane Evil Twin is coming... we are more than 1/2 way done shooting the footage. Stay tuned!!!
@@surfnshowreviews7777 yewwwwwwwwwww! I'm so stoked for that one. You're my hero Noel. Seriously. Thank you for everything you do
I didn't get it in the end did you prefer quad or tri setup?
Fab Tsalsa Both went really well... I think the Thruster looked better on video but the Quad felt faster under foot.
Do a TPatterson IF15
Noel is this board a groveller? Or could it handle 6 foot like the Lost website claims? It looks to me like the original Rocket and different rail lines.
Terence Ingram It might handle 6’ surf. It’s epic in 1-4’ surf when I tested it and when the surf was a little over head it had great traction. I think you could shred this board as a Groveler and a Daily Driver.
Love your videos, but you hardly make reviews on Dhd's. Wonder if I'll ever watch a review on the DX1, or the MF DNA. Congrats owesome channel.
Iam rideing a dx1 one thing i can tell you be carefull with the size iam 5.10 rideing a 5.8 and it kinda doesnt work for me😖
@@alonkanibalovsky5018 Do you think it should be a little larger maybe?
hugo albuquerque Stoked you like our show. The folks at DHD don’t want to send anymore boards for review. Some companies have vision for what we do and others don’t... I guess.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 unfortunately, cause the channel's content builts value! Keep going man!
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Rats. I thought some of the snaps you did on the wilko f13 would sell a million of those. I actually called the shop in o.c.
Oh mennnnbn i wish i had the money to buy one nowww men the board looks sickkkk yooo you got that goofy shaped no ? You dont need it right ? Can i have it ? Plzzzz hahaaah jk ☹
How boring... You used an asymmetrical board with symmetrical fin set ups. The coolest concept about the whole thing is using a large fin on your toe side and a quad set on your heel side in combination with the different rail lines.
Hu Man I tried one with a twin fin on my toe side and quad on my heel with the extreme tail design and it was quite a bit different. It was fast and extremely responsive but I could not get it to stop sliding out back side. I tried multiple fin sets with bigger fins for added control but it still felt like it needed a little more traction. I would like to experiment more with them but for me this Maysym is a great way for most surfers to start feeling the sensations of a Asymmetrical design. I hope to do more board reviews on Asymmetrical designs.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Copy that and thanks for the detailed reply. I'm always impressed at your thoroughness. I'll keep a lookout for further reviews from you on Asym designs. Respect.