Review of the LOST Rocket Redux 6'1"21.25" 2.75" 39.25 Litres For a sneak peak of some of the artwork I talk about please visit markwaddleton on instagram
Nice review! It's so helpful to have a detailed description of the surfboards like this. As another used commented, I also would like to know the main differences between this board and the Quiver Killer (which one lets you get in earlier, best wave size and type to ride, performing in turns,…) Thanks bro!
Hi Mate not sure how this message slipped a reply sorry always try to reply to everyone.. So the rocket has a wider nose and flatter rocker and also wider tail. The Quiver Killer I would ideally use when the waves are solid or at least chest to shoulder high for the waves we get here but it will work in smaller too. The rocket is more designed at the waves of waist to just overhead and generates more speed more easily. Both boards turn quite nicely the killer series are designed with a relatively straight rail curve to allow them to have such a large wave range I really use the Quiver killer for when I want to control confidence and stability in something a bit bigger or more hollow. The Rocket definitely has more get up and go speed and I think you could push that into a reasonable size at a pinch too it didn't feel slippery.. The Psycho killer is another good one it's more of a step down quiver killer slightly fuller rails and deck with less rocker and a wider tail.. To be fair most of these boards go well in a variety of waves it's almost more down to your presonal style and preference and your local waves .. Hope that helps some. Cheers.
Hi, love the reviews. I am ordered a rocket redux in carbon diamond wrap. I’m 5’10 175 an intermediate and surf Southern California. I ordered the 6’0 at 35 liters. Would this be ok for me? I’m worried it will be too much volume or too wide. Should I stay at that if try 5’11? Trying to get it situated before it gets made. Thanks
Hey mate, good man nice board the Rocket Redux.. Sounds like you went for a stock 6'0" Standard dims. Always hard to say between 2 sizes not knowing someone.. It's a hard enough decision for me for myself when I do know me :-) lol Sounds pretty right to me but I ride fairly high volume and would usually advise on decent volume. What are you used to / usually ride etc? There are wide dims models too so you could have gone for a wider board slightly smaller if you wanted to there is a 5'10" wide dims 20.5 and 33.7 Litres but the longer thinner one will probably give you a bigger wave range. Dont see anything wrong with your initial choice but you know your volume and what you want out of it so trust your instincts too mate. Mine paddles well and it stable for it's size. Cheers
Yeah mate not too dissimilar a board but definitely a point of difference between them. Little bit of a difference in the length, volume distribution, concaves etc. Ironically I would probably ride this as a quad and the Uber as a thruster but been doing the opisite :-P Hows the Hydra coming on can't wait to get my paws on that one :-)
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I believe the newer uber driver and xl series is pretty much a rocket inspired front end with a driver rear end. Drivers have a Flatter exit rocker compared to a lot of hybrid performers. You wouldn't really need both Buuuuuuuuttt :-P lol
I'm all good thanks buddy. Not too bad in NZ just working form home and making the best of a sad time for a lot of people far worst off. Hope your keeping safe mate.
Hi brother, I'm tossing up between the Rocket Redux and the Uber Driver XL as a hybrid/daily driver for decent waves up to/over head high - ie: 3-4 foot Piha. I've got boards sorted for groveling or when it gets more solid but 3-4 is pretty much my go to size. Seems like the UDXL is a nice fit for what I'm after? What do you think? Are you surfing both in punchy surf? Thanks man!
Hey buddy.. Can’t remember if I replied sorry, thought I had.. Yeah nice both good choices.. If you already have something for grovelling and for bigger waves. The Uber is a great performer and forgiving too but it needs enough of a wave to get it going then I suspect it’s going to top out not a huge amount over where it gets going of that makes sense. I ride really soft waves mainly so you may well fid it’s ok in somewhere with Piha power in a smaller wave so yeah 3-4 I think it’s probably spot on for. The Rocket Redux carries more speed and has a flatter rocker so in theory it would probably top out a little earlier but It feels solid every time I have ridden it so it’s probably sweet as upto 4ft or a bit more as long as it’s not. The ratio of volume to weight you ride is a big factor too I ride way over volume really so boards probably get slippery on me earlier than others riding lower volume. Hope that helps as bit. Come back if there is anything more specific.. Maybe a Psycho Killer might be worth a look too… Tommy Dalton makes a good board so you could always custom with him to get the right size and volume for you. Cheers.
Hi, thanks for your excellent videos I hesitate between this board and the Uber driver XL what is your favorite one and why ? This could help me thank you
There both different boards for different jobs really mate. Think I have been over this in detail in the comments for a couple of other people so maybe have a nosey through the comments and replys but the Rocket will ride a smaller wave generate it's own speed more easily, flatter rocker more wide point forward etc etc. The Uber XL is more of a performance hybrid for intermediate surfers in average waves so has a lot of the charecteristics we would probably like to ride if we were more pro but in a way more sensible package for average joes. Uber XL's limitations I would say are wave range. It's not got a huge tail so wont always be keen to go at the lower sized wave range but it's also not that parallels in the rails or designed as much with hold in mind to ride the bigger end of the waves. What it is is more a squash tail performer hybrid daily driver for average waves. Rocket would cover a good wave range. Psycho Killer if you want to cover a good wave range too and also quiver killer for the medium plus waves is pretty good. Uber xl is responsive and quite a performance hybrid in the right conditions. Rocket a bit more of a do it all small to medium and even la bit bigger waves at a push. Wider, bigger nose flatter rocker. And the killer seris is worth a look too if you want a dependable board that will work in most waves meduim and up but still handle small too. Little less responsive sometimes but you can push harder if that makes sense. The quiver series inspire me with coinfidence and easy to ride. Allot of the boards as well it's about the type of rocker so you need to know if you like a Flatter or more curved tail rocker. Hope that helps. There all excellent boards it's just really hard to pick out all the intricacy's and match them to Surfer and thir person styles and what might suit them best. Hope that helps.
@@lawson45uk thank you so much for your detailed answer , I choose the rochet in the lib tech construction and found it a fantastic board for small to medium surf 👌
Hey Mate, thanks for the review. A lot of people talking about this board as a travel or one board quiver. I am curious about this board since a while. Specially interested how it surfs in bigger, more hollow and punchy stuff. Maybe 5-7ft. Did you surfed it in solid conditions and if, how you liked it in terms of stability and turning? Thanks a lot and have a good day
Hey mate. I haven't ridden any really solid or hollow waves myself but it seems to get good feedback. I found the grip and stability to be actually really good for how flat the rocker is. Speed is also excellent. 5-7 Hollow it's possibly the quiver or Psycho or even a rock up might be more what the range might say but I think a good surfer could use it in a good range of conditions. See the review on Real Watersports US they have a semi pro reviewing it and he loved it for hollow waves and was praising it for when pushing the wave size pretty good too. Cheers.
Hey dude.... quick question on Rocket Redux Vs Uber XL.. I have a V3 rocket and like how loose off the tail it is. In comparison my PJHP feels way stiff and my quiver killer is somewhere in between (but makes it nice and confident on bigger swell). I'm looking at a Redux or Uber XL for smaller waves with more performance than the PJHP. Do you think the Uber XL is maneuverable enough off the back foot Vs the the redux? It seems the Uber XL tail lift is a bit lower.
Hey mate sorry for the late reply some comments seem to side through the gaps and re appear in un responded to box... It's really hard with some of those nuances and some will really depend on you as a rider too so not always easy to say. I heard Mat say lead foot surfers can prefer flatter tail rocker and lighter or more snappy guys might like more flip. Also how well it turns vs how well it holds can be a combination of rocker, tail width and also the amount of curve in the outline and also the concave or vee so kinda hard to narrow down sometimes. Hopefully this helps you though.. I found the Puddle Jumper HP too much rocker for it's width and didn't really get on with it that well for our flat waves it was wider but had more rocker than the psycho killer. The Uber XL is pretty loose but a little particular about wave size.. Too small or weak and it's not able to get enough speed too big and it will slide. V3 has a smaller nose and more nose rocker but still a fairly wide tail plus side point is back than the hybrids. I personally found the Redux pretty good as it had speed and still turned well especially for smaller waves but it will handle size too. The quiver killer I hear a few people say that it's not as loose as they would like. I ride that as a step up myself. If your Quiver killer is nearly there maybe consider the Psycho and if not the Rocket that would be my recommendations but again I have not ridden them all at the same volume. I think you might like the Rocket Redux myself. Cheers.
How does this board fair compared to the puddle jumper hp? I have an og puddle jumper at 6'2" so looking to keep the same length but come down in volume to around 40L. I have a 6'10" smooth operator so trying to figure out which one to add to my quiver is tough! Nice review also!
Hey mate. Yeah I have commented a few times on the HP.. I found that board trying to be a lot of things at once and personally preferred to go one way or the other. HP is wide but has a lot of rocker and for me in the waves I ride I would much prefer something a little more refined with less rocker so the Rocket Redux would suit that really well. It paddles well and is fast and stable. I do know a lot of people that love the HP though but that’s usually in smaller sizes and better waves I think. I assume you would be going like a 6’2” or even 6’1” in the wide dims? Probably want it to be a couple of litres down on your OG PJ? How do you like the smooth operator? I still really like the look of that but ended up with the Party Crasher instead. Depending on your quiver and what waves you want it to go in an Uber XL or Psycho killer might also be of interest but the Rocket would probably be my pick for speed and paddle power in waves upto say head and a bit so yeah I rekon totally on point for what you are describing. Hope that helps. Cheers
@@lawson45uk Thanks a lot for the advice! The smooth operator is a great board. I have it in the yellow/gold resin tint which looks amazing, and for a 6'10" board it turns very easily and feels alot smaller due its thin refined shape. It's also very fast; I'm running it with the biolos fcs2 split keels which works well. I've only been able to surf it in 4 foot waves max but I reckon it would go great in bigger surf due to the rocker and size. I also saw your review of the Lost Hydra which looks like an awesome board. Hard to pick a board with Lost putting out so many good models. I'm wondering if you like the Hydra or Rocket Redux better? I'm thinking the Hydra 5'10-5'11" (39-40L) might be a better board for my conditions where I surf, which is mainly 2-3 feet weak waves in Los Angeles area, occasionally 4-5 feet on a good day, which is rare at select spots. Do you have a favorite board of the two models? I really like the look of the Hydra and I imagine it would be a major upgrade from the 6'2" OG puddle jumper. Thanks!
@@wiserbudman Yeeeooowww.. Great feedback on the Smooth Operator thanks for that.. Exactly what I would have hoped to hear from that board so good to know it stacks up well. To be honest I agree with you, it's incredibly hard to pick a winner from the lost stable.. Actually I should say it's hard to pick a looser from the lost stable :-) lol As there are so many really good boards. So if you like your Smooth operator and dont need a board for anything much over head high or even if you do sounds like maybe you would be good working on your smaller wave boards? Or do you use the Smooth operator for that too? I really think the OG JP is one of the very best most ridable and best performing boards for small to medium waves there is so wouldn't necissarily say the Hydra would be a huge upgrade I still haven't completely got to grips with that one... I would say that the PJ isn't a true Grovel board for average guys riding plus volumes... The bean bag is more of that and also the RNF retro is a winner if you are happy with a more carvy flowing ride... Hard to say what should be on your radar as it all has to fit into a quiver... I think the rocket would handle 2-4 and 5 ft if it's not much of a hollow wave... Bean Bag, RNF Retro, PJ, Uber XL, Psycho series are all great boards rocket redux would sit really nicely between the PJ and the Uber XL for wave range paddle and speed.. The Uber XL is an excellent board but will need 3-4ft ideally.. Really hard to say.. Rocket reducx or uber or psycho killer all really good 3-overhead boards Have a think about where you want what in your quiiver.. Maybe your already good.. Maybe you might like a smaller wave short hybrid like an RNF or Bean Bag and something like a rocket or if you have a longboard you could ust go rocket redux or one of the others for decent waves and smooth if you need a step up .... What you rekon? ;-) lol
how would you compare the quiver killer to this rocket redux? does one paddle better? looking for something to perform in waist to overhead thats get in early and paddle battle the crowds. looks like you like the rocket a little shorter
Yeah I would go the quiver more for head plus and this for head down but they both cover a range. Rocket makes speed more easily flatter rocker more up front as you would expect. Thanks.
Hello ! I’ve seen you shape boards, so I think I can ask for your opinion on an experiment I’m thinking of. I really love this board. I have a 5,8 stock dims (x 19,50). I was thinking to get another one maybe 5,9 or 5,10 but go as narrow as 19 keeping relatively the same volume. My idea of narrowing the board almost an inch is make it more nimble on turns and use it for some bigger waves maybe 6 or ft steeper fast waves. Would you say it is a good idea or I will mess up the shape of the board ? Thanks !
Hi mate. Nah I would expect that would be ok. They come in wide and narrow dims stock anyway and the rocker and shape will actually handle a decent sized wave so if your comfy on the shorter one you could definitely have a go at something like your talking about. Probably best to have a word with a lost shaper as they have the files on the computer so they could tell you if it still says in proportion at the new size. Also they could add a little rocker or pull the tail in or tell you if there is already a stock model that would serve you better than customising this one. That's the great thing about lost and many of the well established brands that have a good library of boards and files to play with. They might say yes let's do that it will be fine or a rock uo would be better or yeah but let's add a little rocket for you or let's pull the tail in a bit. The rocket is a great model though. I suspect you could get good grip and confidence still keep decent speed if you get it right though as you go up in wave size I tired nimble becomes less of a issue. Check in with the shapers though they know their stuff cheers.
Love your videos!!! Im intermediate 5,9 160, would you recomender 5,10 34l or 6.0 37 liters rocket redux I normally surf 6,3 , 40 liters hybrid pukas 69er . I want to keep progressing in my surf!! Thanks!!
Hi mate. Good question. To be honest I never claim to know what's best for people between two very close versions of the same model you will know better yourself the waves and comfort level you have with your volume to your ability. If your used to what is probably a good paddling board in 40 litres and going shorter your probably best no to go too aggressively but i think your on the right kind of lines.. I think go around the 37 rather than way down to the 34 but if your young fit competent and getting better and want a challange you could go down. Boards dont paddle as well as they get shorter and especially under 6"0" I would presonally look at maybe the 6'0" wide dims at 37 you could go for one of the stock dims too but if you like the width you have and going for small to medium waves width gives stability... The Rocket I think will have a wiider tail than the 69er if it's the OG 69er nose and rocker probaly similar.. Hope that helps.. Got to think about your quiver overall as well sometimes.. Are you getting rid of the 69er for this having both or do you need a grovel board and something for good waves or just wanting a one board quiver and wanting a little less board to progress. Cheers.
@@lawson45uk thanks! In the end I chose 6.0 lib tech I think it is better to go step by step also I do not always have the option to surf when I want. I will keep the 69er original for bigger days..
Cheers Jorge. Yeah kind of different boards really. Possibly some similarities in the waves they are designed for but the seaside is really a performance take on a traditional fish. Thick, wide, wide point forward, fish tail designed with a bit more speed and arcing turns in mind. Rocket Redux is more like a step down short/hybrid design still intended with performance in mind and probably designed to be ridden longer per Litre too. I think you could ride the Rocket in a bit more of a wave range to the upside possibly a one board quiver for half decent waves 2ft to head and a bit if your a shortboarder. Available in stock and wide dims now too. I quite liked both boards myself but defiitely different feels to ride. You only need to look at the outline to see significant differences. Seaside might suit the average guy like me more that's not riding bigger waves and needs that bigger wider form for stability in weaker waves. Rocket Redux i would probably find a really good board for a surf trip in NZ where I was only intending to ride waves 2-5ft. Seaside does have a good range too but once your into bigger sizes and volumes I need they can get a bit slippery. Rocket would handle a bit more consistently in a better wave for me personally. Cheers.
@@lawson45uk thanks for the great feedback, i have a cymatic at 5'5 which i love, but sometimes feels a bit small on overhead waves, enough volume but small, thinking of a redux at 5'7 wide or even 5'8, but not sure if that could be too much volume. the cymatic i have has 28.4
Nice review! It's so helpful to have a detailed description of the surfboards like this.
As another used commented, I also would like to know the main differences between this board and the Quiver Killer (which one lets you get in earlier, best wave size and type to ride, performing in turns,…)
Thanks bro!
Hi Mate not sure how this message slipped a reply sorry always try to reply to everyone.. So the rocket has a wider nose and flatter rocker and also wider tail. The Quiver Killer I would ideally use when the waves are solid or at least chest to shoulder high for the waves we get here but it will work in smaller too. The rocket is more designed at the waves of waist to just overhead and generates more speed more easily. Both boards turn quite nicely the killer series are designed with a relatively straight rail curve to allow them to have such a large wave range I really use the Quiver killer for when I want to control confidence and stability in something a bit bigger or more hollow. The Rocket definitely has more get up and go speed and I think you could push that into a reasonable size at a pinch too it didn't feel slippery.. The Psycho killer is another good one it's more of a step down quiver killer slightly fuller rails and deck with less rocker and a wider tail.. To be fair most of these boards go well in a variety of waves it's almost more down to your presonal style and preference and your local waves .. Hope that helps some. Cheers.
Nice to see you back doing videos. Keep safe
Tim Osborne... cheers Tim. Thanks very much mate. Hope your all ok too and keeping safe and occupied 👍
Hi, love the reviews. I am ordered a rocket redux in carbon diamond wrap. I’m 5’10 175 an intermediate and surf Southern California. I ordered the 6’0 at 35 liters. Would this be ok for me? I’m worried it will be too much volume or too wide. Should I stay at that if try 5’11? Trying to get it situated before it gets made. Thanks
Hey mate, good man nice board the Rocket Redux.. Sounds like you went for a stock 6'0" Standard dims. Always hard to say between 2 sizes not knowing someone.. It's a hard enough decision for me for myself when I do know me :-) lol Sounds pretty right to me but I ride fairly high volume and would usually advise on decent volume. What are you used to / usually ride etc? There are wide dims models too so you could have gone for a wider board slightly smaller if you wanted to there is a 5'10" wide dims 20.5 and 33.7 Litres but the longer thinner one will probably give you a bigger wave range. Dont see anything wrong with your initial choice but you know your volume and what you want out of it so trust your instincts too mate. Mine paddles well and it stable for it's size. Cheers
Nice review. I was wondering how well this would go compared to the uber xl
Yeah mate not too dissimilar a board but definitely a point of difference between them. Little bit of a difference in the length, volume distribution, concaves etc. Ironically I would probably ride this as a quad and the Uber as a thruster but been doing the opisite :-P Hows the Hydra coming on can't wait to get my paws on that one :-)
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I believe the newer uber driver and xl series is pretty much a rocket inspired front end with a driver rear end. Drivers have a Flatter exit rocker compared to a lot of hybrid performers. You wouldn't really need both Buuuuuuuuttt :-P lol
Great review. 🤙
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Be safe my brother ....... good to see you my friend 🤙
I'm all good thanks buddy. Not too bad in NZ just working form home and making the best of a sad time for a lot of people far worst off. Hope your keeping safe mate.
Hi brother, I'm tossing up between the Rocket Redux and the Uber Driver XL as a hybrid/daily driver for decent waves up to/over head high - ie: 3-4 foot Piha. I've got boards sorted for groveling or when it gets more solid but 3-4 is pretty much my go to size. Seems like the UDXL is a nice fit for what I'm after? What do you think? Are you surfing both in punchy surf? Thanks man!
Hey buddy.. Can’t remember if I replied sorry, thought I had.. Yeah nice both good choices.. If you already have something for grovelling and for bigger waves. The Uber is a great performer and forgiving too but it needs enough of a wave to get it going then I suspect it’s going to top out not a huge amount over where it gets going of that makes sense. I ride really soft waves mainly so you may well fid it’s ok in somewhere with Piha power in a smaller wave so yeah 3-4 I think it’s probably spot on for. The Rocket Redux carries more speed and has a flatter rocker so in theory it would probably top out a little earlier but It feels solid every time I have ridden it so it’s probably sweet as upto 4ft or a bit more as long as it’s not. The ratio of volume to weight you ride is a big factor too I ride way over volume really so boards probably get slippery on me earlier than others riding lower volume. Hope that helps as bit. Come back if there is anything more specific.. Maybe a Psycho Killer might be worth a look too… Tommy Dalton makes a good board so you could always custom with him to get the right size and volume for you.
Cheers.
@@lawson45uk Thanks bro!
Hi, thanks for your excellent videos
I hesitate between this board and the Uber driver XL what is your favorite one and why ? This could help me thank you
There both different boards for different jobs really mate. Think I have been over this in detail in the comments for a couple of other people so maybe have a nosey through the comments and replys but the Rocket will ride a smaller wave generate it's own speed more easily, flatter rocker more wide point forward etc etc. The Uber XL is more of a performance hybrid for intermediate surfers in average waves so has a lot of the charecteristics we would probably like to ride if we were more pro but in a way more sensible package for average joes. Uber XL's limitations I would say are wave range. It's not got a huge tail so wont always be keen to go at the lower sized wave range but it's also not that parallels in the rails or designed as much with hold in mind to ride the bigger end of the waves. What it is is more a squash tail performer hybrid daily driver for average waves. Rocket would cover a good wave range. Psycho Killer if you want to cover a good wave range too and also quiver killer for the medium plus waves is pretty good. Uber xl is responsive and quite a performance hybrid in the right conditions. Rocket a bit more of a do it all small to medium and even la bit bigger waves at a push. Wider, bigger nose flatter rocker. And the killer seris is worth a look too if you want a dependable board that will work in most waves meduim and up but still handle small too. Little less responsive sometimes but you can push harder if that makes sense. The quiver series inspire me with coinfidence and easy to ride. Allot of the boards as well it's about the type of rocker so you need to know if you like a Flatter or more curved tail rocker. Hope that helps. There all excellent boards it's just really hard to pick out all the intricacy's and match them to Surfer and thir person styles and what might suit them best. Hope that helps.
@@lawson45uk thank you so much for your detailed answer , I choose the rochet in the lib tech construction and found it a fantastic board for small to medium surf 👌
Hey Mate, thanks for the review. A lot of people talking about this board as a travel or one board quiver. I am curious about this board since a while. Specially interested how it surfs in bigger, more hollow and punchy stuff. Maybe 5-7ft. Did you surfed it in solid conditions and if, how you liked it in terms of stability and turning? Thanks a lot and have a good day
Hey mate. I haven't ridden any really solid or hollow waves myself but it seems to get good feedback. I found the grip and stability to be actually really good for how flat the rocker is. Speed is also excellent. 5-7 Hollow it's possibly the quiver or Psycho or even a rock up might be more what the range might say but I think a good surfer could use it in a good range of conditions. See the review on Real Watersports US they have a semi pro reviewing it and he loved it for hollow waves and was praising it for when pushing the wave size pretty good too. Cheers.
Thanks for your answer mate. Appreciate your effort for our passion 🤙 I’ll check the video you mentioned. Cheers
Hey dude.... quick question on Rocket Redux Vs Uber XL.. I have a V3 rocket and like how loose off the tail it is. In comparison my PJHP feels way stiff and my quiver killer is somewhere in between (but makes it nice and confident on bigger swell). I'm looking at a Redux or Uber XL for smaller waves with more performance than the PJHP. Do you think the Uber XL is maneuverable enough off the back foot Vs the the redux? It seems the Uber XL tail lift is a bit lower.
Hey mate sorry for the late reply some comments seem to side through the gaps and re appear in un responded to box... It's really hard with some of those nuances and some will really depend on you as a rider too so not always easy to say. I heard Mat say lead foot surfers can prefer flatter tail rocker and lighter or more snappy guys might like more flip. Also how well it turns vs how well it holds can be a combination of rocker, tail width and also the amount of curve in the outline and also the concave or vee so kinda hard to narrow down sometimes. Hopefully this helps you though.. I found the Puddle Jumper HP too much rocker for it's width and didn't really get on with it that well for our flat waves it was wider but had more rocker than the psycho killer. The Uber XL is pretty loose but a little particular about wave size.. Too small or weak and it's not able to get enough speed too big and it will slide. V3 has a smaller nose and more nose rocker but still a fairly wide tail plus side point is back than the hybrids. I personally found the Redux pretty good as it had speed and still turned well especially for smaller waves but it will handle size too. The quiver killer I hear a few people say that it's not as loose as they would like. I ride that as a step up myself. If your Quiver killer is nearly there maybe consider the Psycho and if not the Rocket that would be my recommendations but again I have not ridden them all at the same volume. I think you might like the Rocket Redux myself. Cheers.
How does this board fair compared to the puddle jumper hp? I have an og puddle jumper at 6'2" so looking to keep the same length but come down in volume to around 40L. I have a 6'10" smooth operator so trying to figure out which one to add to my quiver is tough! Nice review also!
Hey mate. Yeah I have commented a few times on the HP.. I found that board trying to be a lot of things at once and personally preferred to go one way or the other. HP is wide but has a lot of rocker and for me in the waves I ride I would much prefer something a little more refined with less rocker so the Rocket Redux would suit that really well. It paddles well and is fast and stable. I do know a lot of people that love the HP though but that’s usually in smaller sizes and better waves I think. I assume you would be going like a 6’2” or even 6’1” in the wide dims? Probably want it to be a couple of litres down on your OG PJ? How do you like the smooth operator? I still really like the look of that but ended up with the Party Crasher instead. Depending on your quiver and what waves you want it to go in an Uber XL or Psycho killer might also be of interest but the Rocket would probably be my pick for speed and paddle power in waves upto say head and a bit so yeah I rekon totally on point for what you are describing. Hope that helps. Cheers
@@lawson45uk Thanks a lot for the advice! The smooth operator is a great board. I have it in the yellow/gold resin tint which looks amazing, and for a 6'10" board it turns very easily and feels alot smaller due its thin refined shape. It's also very fast; I'm running it with the biolos fcs2 split keels which works well. I've only been able to surf it in 4 foot waves max but I reckon it would go great in bigger surf due to the rocker and size. I also saw your review of the Lost Hydra which looks like an awesome board. Hard to pick a board with Lost putting out so many good models. I'm wondering if you like the Hydra or Rocket Redux better? I'm thinking the Hydra 5'10-5'11" (39-40L) might be a better board for my conditions where I surf, which is mainly 2-3 feet weak waves in Los Angeles area, occasionally 4-5 feet on a good day, which is rare at select spots. Do you have a favorite board of the two models? I really like the look of the Hydra and I imagine it would be a major upgrade from the 6'2" OG puddle jumper. Thanks!
@@wiserbudman Yeeeooowww.. Great feedback on the Smooth Operator thanks for that.. Exactly what I would have hoped to hear from that board so good to know it stacks up well. To be honest I agree with you, it's incredibly hard to pick a winner from the lost stable.. Actually I should say it's hard to pick a looser from the lost stable :-) lol As there are so many really good boards. So if you like your Smooth operator and dont need a board for anything much over head high or even if you do sounds like maybe you would be good working on your smaller wave boards? Or do you use the Smooth operator for that too? I really think the OG JP is one of the very best most ridable and best performing boards for small to medium waves there is so wouldn't necissarily say the Hydra would be a huge upgrade I still haven't completely got to grips with that one... I would say that the PJ isn't a true Grovel board for average guys riding plus volumes... The bean bag is more of that and also the RNF retro is a winner if you are happy with a more carvy flowing ride... Hard to say what should be on your radar as it all has to fit into a quiver... I think the rocket would handle 2-4 and 5 ft if it's not much of a hollow wave... Bean Bag, RNF Retro, PJ, Uber XL, Psycho series are all great boards rocket redux would sit really nicely between the PJ and the Uber XL for wave range paddle and speed.. The Uber XL is an excellent board but will need 3-4ft ideally.. Really hard to say.. Rocket reducx or uber or psycho killer all really good 3-overhead boards Have a think about where you want what in your quiiver.. Maybe your already good.. Maybe you might like a smaller wave short hybrid like an RNF or Bean Bag and something like a rocket or if you have a longboard you could ust go rocket redux or one of the others for decent waves and smooth if you need a step up .... What you rekon? ;-) lol
how would you compare the quiver killer to this rocket redux? does one paddle better? looking for something to perform in waist to overhead thats get in early and paddle battle the crowds. looks like you like the rocket a little shorter
Quiver killer will have more range and surf larger waves. Rocket def better for lower end (less rocker wider tail)
Yeah I would go the quiver more for head plus and this for head down but they both cover a range. Rocket makes speed more easily flatter rocker more up front as you would expect. Thanks.
Hello ! I’ve seen you shape boards, so I think I can ask for your opinion on an experiment I’m thinking of. I really love this board. I have a 5,8 stock dims (x 19,50). I was thinking to get another one maybe 5,9 or 5,10 but go as narrow as 19 keeping relatively the same volume. My idea of narrowing the board almost an inch is make it more nimble on turns and use it for some bigger waves maybe 6 or ft steeper fast waves. Would you say it is a good idea or I will mess up the shape of the board ? Thanks !
Hi mate. Nah I would expect that would be ok. They come in wide and narrow dims stock anyway and the rocker and shape will actually handle a decent sized wave so if your comfy on the shorter one you could definitely have a go at something like your talking about. Probably best to have a word with a lost shaper as they have the files on the computer so they could tell you if it still says in proportion at the new size. Also they could add a little rocker or pull the tail in or tell you if there is already a stock model that would serve you better than customising this one. That's the great thing about lost and many of the well established brands that have a good library of boards and files to play with. They might say yes let's do that it will be fine or a rock uo would be better or yeah but let's add a little rocket for you or let's pull the tail in a bit. The rocket is a great model though. I suspect you could get good grip and confidence still keep decent speed if you get it right though as you go up in wave size I tired nimble becomes less of a issue. Check in with the shapers though they know their stuff cheers.
@@lawson45uk thank you !!
Love your videos!!! Im intermediate 5,9 160, would you recomender 5,10 34l or 6.0 37 liters rocket redux I normally surf 6,3 , 40 liters hybrid pukas 69er . I want to keep progressing in my surf!! Thanks!!
Hi mate. Good question. To be honest I never claim to know what's best for people between two very close versions of the same model you will know better yourself the waves and comfort level you have with your volume to your ability. If your used to what is probably a good paddling board in 40 litres and going shorter your probably best no to go too aggressively but i think your on the right kind of lines.. I think go around the 37 rather than way down to the 34 but if your young fit competent and getting better and want a challange you could go down. Boards dont paddle as well as they get shorter and especially under 6"0" I would presonally look at maybe the 6'0" wide dims at 37 you could go for one of the stock dims too but if you like the width you have and going for small to medium waves width gives stability... The Rocket I think will have a wiider tail than the 69er if it's the OG 69er nose and rocker probaly similar.. Hope that helps.. Got to think about your quiver overall as well sometimes.. Are you getting rid of the 69er for this having both or do you need a grovel board and something for good waves or just wanting a one board quiver and wanting a little less board to progress. Cheers.
@@lawson45uk thanks! In the end I chose 6.0 lib tech I think it is better to go step by step also I do not always have the option to surf when I want. I will keep the 69er original for bigger days..
@@kilima1500 Good call mate Lib techs are bullet proof and the 6'0" should go a bit aster than your 69 er too let me know how you like it :-)
@@lawson45uk thats done!!! Thanks!!!!
Nice Review, what do you think between Rocket redux and the seaside?
Cheers Jorge. Yeah kind of different boards really. Possibly some similarities in the waves they are designed for but the seaside is really a performance take on a traditional fish. Thick, wide, wide point forward, fish tail designed with a bit more speed and arcing turns in mind. Rocket Redux is more like a step down short/hybrid design still intended with performance in mind and probably designed to be ridden longer per Litre too. I think you could ride the Rocket in a bit more of a wave range to the upside possibly a one board quiver for half decent waves 2ft to head and a bit if your a shortboarder. Available in stock and wide dims now too. I quite liked both boards myself but defiitely different feels to ride. You only need to look at the outline to see significant differences. Seaside might suit the average guy like me more that's not riding bigger waves and needs that bigger wider form for stability in weaker waves. Rocket Redux i would probably find a really good board for a surf trip in NZ where I was only intending to ride waves 2-5ft. Seaside does have a good range too but once your into bigger sizes and volumes I need they can get a bit slippery. Rocket would handle a bit more consistently in a better wave for me personally. Cheers.
@@lawson45uk thanks for the great feedback, i have a cymatic at 5'5 which i love, but sometimes feels a bit small on overhead waves, enough volume but small, thinking of a redux at 5'7 wide or even 5'8, but not sure if that could be too much volume. the cymatic i have has 28.4
Can i ride thie board5fit?wave size?
Yeah I think the board should be good for anything from waist to overheard waves. I would say 2-5ft should be fine as a guideline. 🤙
@@lawson45uk thanks