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  • @JIOSGIABLOS
    @JIOSGIABLOS Před 28 dny +615

    If Apple will get away with removing the charging port, Samsung will make fun of it. But all of them will follow suit. I don't like supporting that.

    • @kumbandit
      @kumbandit Před 28 dny

      Sadly most large companies are brain-dead, they'd make zombies starve to death. They see someone being successful and instead of looking into what makes it that, hey let's just copy the most obvious thing they're doing...

    • @SCP-tn2ln
      @SCP-tn2ln Před 28 dny +32

      Apple removed the audio jack in 2016, it's been almost 10 years and other phones still have them, so why would this be the same?
      Edit: must be an American thing of them being so smooth brain to not do their research, but with phones from 2022 and onwards 817/1366 phones have audio jack, sure, some flagship phones don't have them, but that's more of a you problem for buying them and then complaining about it

    • @halomika4973
      @halomika4973 Před 28 dny +50

      ​@@SCP-tn2ln Very few of the bigger ones do

    • @SetOfAllSets
      @SetOfAllSets Před 28 dny +14

      ​@@SCP-tn2lnwhat phones still have headphone jacks?

    • @andrewhuggins8146
      @andrewhuggins8146 Před 28 dny

      Years ago when i bought my pixel 3a. It was a major plus to have a headphone jack and it did, and i loved it and i rarely used it, i never used headphones actually, but it was very useful for connecting to car stereos. Now i have the 6a, no more headphone jack, no more music. 😢​@@SCP-tn2ln

  • @cyphaborg6598
    @cyphaborg6598 Před 28 dny +475

    If they can buy Apple metrics for 20 billion imagine how cheap politicians are lol.

    • @MetaMdad
      @MetaMdad Před 28 dny +75

      I have heard of coal and oil companies buying off politicians for as little as 10k. I was actually pretty insulted at that price.

    • @doodlethenoodle1212
      @doodlethenoodle1212 Před 28 dny +20

      think i've seen a graph somewhere showing that some go for as low as 2k$ to shill for your company

    • @NiTeHaWKnz
      @NiTeHaWKnz Před 28 dny +14

      Last I heard, Meta has paid out $4MUSD for the tiktok ban.

    • @blindfire3167
      @blindfire3167 Před 28 dny +11

      @@MetaMdad Yeah, there's a town I live in near Houston in Texas, we have a total of 3 oil refineries, and another 9 other types of chemical plants and so on. It's pretty obvious that this town along with another nearby part of Houston is being polluted to the point where it's concerning and Abbott allows it since he's defended these oil/gas companies for so long. He's absolutely bought out easily.

    • @Real_MisterSir
      @Real_MisterSir Před 26 dny +5

      @@MetaMdad You see it as "buying them off", I see it as "confirming their existing true political stance by adding a bit of extra pocket money under the table". Most politicians are completely opposite of what they spew on tv and ad campaigns. The ideologies presented to get voters in is nothing but that. They talk what they believe people want to hear.

  • @krank23
    @krank23 Před 28 dny +87

    "Don't be a fan" is generally good advice. Don't be loyal to brands, or celebrities, or games. I know our dumb monkey brains like belonging to teams and throwing feces at the opposition, but I definitely feel like there's value in resisting that impulse. Being a fan means making worse decisions both long and short erm, benefitting mostly just the parasites at the top - the executives, the shareholders. And I think you know how much loyalty they feel towards you. It's a one way street.

    • @morells09
      @morells09 Před 4 dny

      Hey how did you know about my feces-throwing tendencies?

    • @user-ii8oy3qg2t
      @user-ii8oy3qg2t Před 6 hodinami

      Not really. You can be a fan and still make good decisions. Im a die hard final fantasy fan, i can eadily not buy all their overpriced merch and choose when or if i want to buy the newest gane

  • @glennwatson
    @glennwatson Před 28 dny +62

    I don't see what Linus has against a good ceiling fan. They can help cool in the summer.

    • @daltoonybob
      @daltoonybob Před 24 dny +3

      fans don't cool. in fact they heat.

    • @sabokizi
      @sabokizi Před 23 dny +17

      ​@@daltoonybob Humans cool down by radiating heat from the skin into the ambient air. If the air is still, the skin will heat up this air but then will have trouble radiating any further heat. Fans prevent the ambient air from being still. Which means that the heated air (by the skin) will quickly be replaced by cooler air. In the grand scheme of things, fans do heat (second law of thermodynamics). However saying they don't cool humans is incorrect.

    • @henrynowinski4509
      @henrynowinski4509 Před 22 dny +5

      @@sabokizi jesus christ you killed him

    • @solitivity
      @solitivity Před 20 dny +1

      @sabokizi Damn bro, you didn't have to do 'em like that. 😭

    • @MimOzanTamamogullar
      @MimOzanTamamogullar Před 4 hodinami

      ​@@sabokizi Bro took it personally

  • @Paz_Soldan
    @Paz_Soldan Před 28 dny +157

    "How do I address (fanboy behavior??)" You don't. Ever. Since time immemorial.

  • @michaelkreitzer1369
    @michaelkreitzer1369 Před 28 dny +73

    I bought an AMD A9 chip because it served my needs and I wanted to support market competition. That purchase was _objectively_ good for me because it helped an Intel competitor survive long enough to get us to where we are now. I threw them a bone while their product was good enough, and today we don't have a monopoly.

    • @robeagleR
      @robeagleR Před 27 dny +8

      Yeah now we have a Duopoly 😅

    • @CrAzYpotpie
      @CrAzYpotpie Před 27 dny +7

      The statement of a single man who looks at his singular contribution as if it held some immense power, truly funny. Sure, you were but a miniscule cog in a giant array of stacks of cogs, but lets state it in a grand way where you compress hundreds of thousands to millions down to yourself to sound more important.

    • @michaelkreitzer1369
      @michaelkreitzer1369 Před 27 dny +28

      @@CrAzYpotpie The flood doesn't exist without the drops. You're free to read any ego between the lines that you wish, but it only makes you sound oddly angry while missing the point. Even if AMD had ultimately failed, I'd have still bought that A9 for the same reason.
      The point is that there are rational reasons to purchase technically inferior products that meet your needs. Any grand narrative about how I'm the sole savior of AMD is just silly nonsense you made up and injected. I'd recommend some introspection as to why you would.

    • @Arch-Propagandist-Sage
      @Arch-Propagandist-Sage Před 27 dny +4

      ​@@michaelkreitzer1369 I will always remember a green mushroom saving my cpu.

    • @CrAzYpotpie
      @CrAzYpotpie Před 27 dny +2

      @@michaelkreitzer1369 I wasn't reading ego between the lines, I read your poorly chosen words directly as they were and explained it all along the way. You getting upset that that was pointed out to you really isn't my problem.

  • @4li145
    @4li145 Před 28 dny +67

    Love the product, not the brand

    • @ashishpj
      @ashishpj Před 27 dny +1

      yeah, this should reflect in every aspects of life.

    • @Real_MisterSir
      @Real_MisterSir Před 26 dny +6

      Love the product. Hold the brand accountable to live up to that product's image in the future.

    • @johnsalamii
      @johnsalamii Před 25 dny +1

      thats why i love macbooks yet fucking hate apple

  • @nocare
    @nocare Před 27 dny +17

    Hanlon's razor is not about being blind to malice, its about not assuming malice. Rarely do you have to make a decision about something immediately, you can almost always gather more information. So rather than assuming ignorance or assuming malice you should get more information.
    Design you life and interactions so that as many scenarios as possible allow you to get that information.
    However, in those rare instances where you must make an assumption you have no time left and need a decision now. Choose to assume ignorance rather than malice and probabilistically you will be correct.
    That's hanlon's razor.

    • @NovanByworks
      @NovanByworks Před 24 dny +3

      It's also worth considering that Hanlon's razor was originally submitted for a joke book, so maybe people shouldn't be taking it as seriously as they do.

    • @nocare
      @nocare Před 24 dny +3

      ​@@NovanByworks I don't think that matters.
      Firstly similar statements date back well before Hanlon's razor in diffrent forms.
      The version that became popularized due to timing and coincidence, has no bearing on that validity or lack thereof of the actual philosophical claim being made.
      We use Schrodinger's cat to describe a superposition of states but Schrodinger made up the cat analogy to try and show how ridiculous and stupid he thought the concept was.
      Just cause Schrodinger thought it was a good analogy to help his position doesn't mean he was correct.
      Secondly and more importantly, arguments and value claims should stand on their own.
      Meaning the intent, circumstances, or values of the speaker are irrelevant.
      We only place value on those things because we don't use rational thinking to determine truth,
      People use trust, appeals to authority, and emotional expediency.
      None of which actually gives you true answers.

  • @GarrettCrespo
    @GarrettCrespo Před 28 dny +161

    I’ll make the argument that it’s ok to be a fan. But it’s NOT ok to be a fanboy. The difference being that fans like products or services, but will think for themselves and critique the company they like. Fanboys are the kind of people who think that the company they like can do no wrong and will defend everything they do without out a single thought of their own

    • @SammyNail
      @SammyNail Před 28 dny +20

      As a Millennial over the age of 30 who goes to Disney on the regular, I cant agree with your statement more.
      I love the parks, but in general dislike what Disney puts out movie/tv/streaming wise. The last movie they put out under their own branding was Princess And The Frog, that was 2009. When i meet others who love the parks like me, they are often flabbergasted that I think the Disney product overall is trash and even loudly critique their faux-leftist ideals as a way to just make more money off those easily manipulated on that side of the fence. Even more shocking to those people is when they find out that not only am I leftist I'm also an LGBTA+ person as well. Despite all that though, I love the parks. There really isn't anyone going as hard in the paint on theming and immersive physical spaces as them. Universal is thankfully starting to close that gap, and I really want them to overtake Disney just so they'd stop relying on "being the best".
      Sorry I'm rambling now lol

    • @Icon1306
      @Icon1306 Před 28 dny +6

      Being a Stan is not okay.

    • @axeavier
      @axeavier Před 28 dny +2

      ​@@SammyNail To each their own , I found the best star wars movie was the one Disney made, that being RO.
      Pixar still makes pretty fantastic movies. Nevertheless, even if for the sake of argument that disney made everything the way you liked it, that doesn't mean they should be supported. They still screw over a lot of people

    • @georgehelyar
      @georgehelyar Před 28 dny +2

      ​@@axeavierrogue one was good but it wasn't the only one Disney made. That's more like a stopped clock being right twice a day

    • @2435Bits
      @2435Bits Před 28 dny +4

      @@georgehelyar I mean this goes to the point more. You can like individual products, but also be willing to acknowledge that the brand can, and probably has, shitty products as well.

  • @TheNexusGen
    @TheNexusGen Před 28 dny +66

    I was a Microsoft fan for a few years. I had an Xbox One S, W10 PC +Surface Pro, and even a Lumia 950 XL. Stuff started dying and I didn't matter. Learned my lesson.

    • @chickenindabox3169
      @chickenindabox3169 Před 28 dny +14

      that mustve stung pretty badly, Microsoft is probably one of the worst brands to be a fan of

    • @ffwast
      @ffwast Před 27 dny +2

      I got the first Surface Pro and Band 2 *super* cheap and really liked them but the company is just despicable. What they did to the Band and Band 2 was really disgusting.

    • @KillOnS
      @KillOnS Před 27 dny +1

      ​@@chickenindabox3169It's really between them and apple lol

    • @TheBucketSkill
      @TheBucketSkill Před 25 dny +1

      Oof not even a 360 loyalist... brutal

  • @gerowen
    @gerowen Před 28 dny +30

    11:58 The "anything but" argument can be a powerful motivator. If company A makes a better product, but they're a royal piece of doody who employs child slaves, and company B makes a worse product and is slightly less horrible, I will probably buy from company B, maybe even if it means spending a little more money for a worse product. There are limits to this obviously; the product still needs to fulfill the purpose I'm purchasing it for, but the "anything but" argument is definitely something that factors into my buying choices.

    • @gh8447
      @gh8447 Před 27 dny +1

      Bang on. That's part of the reason why I don't buy Apple products - my conscience just won't let me.

    • @REXae86
      @REXae86 Před 21 dnem

      Thats just dumb.

    • @REXae86
      @REXae86 Před 21 dnem

      @@gh8447cry about it

    • @tech6hutch
      @tech6hutch Před 21 dnem

      Does any company do differently?

    • @gerowen
      @gerowen Před 19 dny

      @@REXae86 That's your opinion, but the days of blind capitalism are ending. Today's shoppers care about doing business with companies that align with their values. It's not good enough to just make a good product any more; if you're a racist or you're dishonest or you do some other morally reprehensible thing, you're going to lose customers. That's just a fact of life in today's economy.

  • @_____alyptic
    @_____alyptic Před 27 dny +9

    Or go after 'Big Tech' as a whole:
    Microsoft, Amazon, Meta, Alphabet

  • @Bash70
    @Bash70 Před 27 dny +7

    Linus' point on people complaining about whataboutism is spot on. You don't get to complain about it when you are engaging in blatant hypocrisy and double standards. And even more so when the people complaining are doing it themselves to deflect criticism.

  • @kingzach74
    @kingzach74 Před 28 dny +18

    I'm blown away at how AMD stock is over 5 times higher than Intel now. That's mind blowing.

    • @JMassa
      @JMassa Před 28 dny +1

      Market cap is only about 2x that of intel

    • @ffwast
      @ffwast Před 27 dny +2

      Only if you're stuck in the bulldozer era.

    • @JeffDM
      @JeffDM Před 27 dny +2

      @@JMassa yep you compare the value of companies by market cap not price of an individual share.

    • @shadowwsk3507
      @shadowwsk3507 Před 25 dny

      That's not how shares work

  • @ekcman
    @ekcman Před 27 dny +4

    Leave the billionaire companies alone.

  • @reactionaryprinciplegaming
    @reactionaryprinciplegaming Před 28 dny +15

    Ironically, there are some pieces of clothing I would have got from LTTStore, but I didn't because it had an LTT logo on them.

    • @SegmentW
      @SegmentW Před 28 dny +1

      The 3 black t-shirts I got from LTTStore are the nicest black t-shirts I've ever owned and my entire family agrees and none of them know what LTT is lol.

    • @orlagh277
      @orlagh277 Před 26 dny +3

      I think they recognize that a lot of people think that way and that there's some stigma about wearing "youtuber" branded stuff. that's why they minimize their own branding and a lot of their clothing only have a small logo in one spot.

  • @axeavier
    @axeavier Před 28 dny +55

    I guarantee people will gladly pile on Apple in saying they've always hated it, give a bunch of reasons but will gladly go about their day liking other corporations while being more trustful of them. I wish we could get to a point where people realize not a single corporation tech or otherwise can be trusted and they will all screw you over as an employee or customer if and when they get the chance. Like in the case of apple, while they're obviously against right to repair but people don't make a single peep like with other companies like samsung. While Samsung does offer parts which is good, they still funnel money into organizations who's sole intent is to be representatives in court cases to shoot down any bills for R2R which is awful. Samsung should not be getting a pass in this situation.
    This should not be the who's marginally better olympics. Regardless of what it is whether it deals with people's health, worker's rights, R2R, taxation of corps, anything, people should be heavily interested in dismantling the power that they have and not giving them more

    • @suspiciousfish1854
      @suspiciousfish1854 Před 28 dny +3

      Not reading all that 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @kingzach74
      @kingzach74 Před 28 dny +3

      I don't buy either Apple or Samsung. If ever I buy a phone or a tech device, I never buy directly from a retailer where money will go directly to that tech company. I almost always try to buy 3rd party.

    • @oliverdurgen5953
      @oliverdurgen5953 Před 28 dny

      you don't have to trust a game company. for fucks sake... so fucking dramatic...
      just buy games or don't. its not life or death or taxes or food or health insurance or electricity... it's juts games... holy fuck man. it's. just. games........ some are bad and some are good.... same as it ever was. the companies that make them are never going to tell you when they are bad.... you don't need to trust them. just assume they re going to lie to you....
      by them or don't...the choice is yours...it doesn't fuckin matter... god damn...there WAAYYYYY!!!!!!!!!! more important issues in society, yeah? so don't fuckin play games and you wont have to worry about it.

    • @atyj1
      @atyj1 Před 27 dny +9

      ​@@suspiciousfish1854your loss
      Why even comment that anyway

    • @edmunns8825
      @edmunns8825 Před 27 dny

      @axeavier well said sir!

  • @pizzabuff
    @pizzabuff Před 28 dny +7

    They insist on not seeing Apple's flaws because recognizing the company they truely are makes people feel insecure about themselves for liking the product. Good thing I don't even like the product.

  • @jaughnekow
    @jaughnekow Před 28 dny +74

    "we're apple, we love finding new ways to scam you. give us all your money."

    • @breadone_
      @breadone_ Před 28 dny +4

      as its every tech company. apple ain’t alone at all

    • @jaughnekow
      @jaughnekow Před 28 dny +7

      @@breadone_ with other companies, it's okay to call them out but when it's Apple, the fans become triggered.

    • @qu3nt
      @qu3nt Před 27 dny +1

      ios is objectively best mobile OS if i could switch to android and have the same user experience i would.And i buy mostly 2 or 3 years old products or cheap versions like iphone SE.

    • @justyouraveragegamer6142
      @justyouraveragegamer6142 Před 27 dny

      ​​​​@@qu3nt I mean ios is so limited tho. No custom apps or other stores. No searching Google for whatever app you want and Installing the APK directly onto your device. Forced removal of things that a majority of users still use. Like the headphone jack back in the day for example. (I know that was a while ago just the easiest argument for that) But in terms of OS. Sure it's refined. But it's extremely limited to only what apple allows you to have. There's no freedom. And that works for your average joe who knows nothing about phones or tech in general and just wants a phone. But for people who actually use their devices to the fullest and everything they can do. People who love customization and freedom to download and play anything that they want that happens to exist out there on the Internet. Android is just plain better as an OS. The amount of games I've gotten on my phone. Like fan ports of console games. Or just random indie games off gamejolt or something. Stuff that has nothing to do with Google play. Just downloaded off the website and installed myself. It's great. Or emulators are another thing. The fact it took apple this long to allow an emulator on their store is crazy. Even if there were no emulators that you liked on Google Play you could go download retroarch off Google and install it directly to your phone. The sheer freedom and customization of Android OS. And the fact that you can download everything and anything that happens to exist on the internet to your heart's desire. Whatever apps whatever games you find that you decide that you want out there you can just get without even using the store. It allows such a bigger freedom that ios has never even tried to replicate. iPhones are pretty much just phones first and foremost. They can't really do much else. Which is unfortunate because the user experience is really good and their actual operating system is very well refined. (Even if I find the lack of buttons on the bottom of the screen odd. Like not having a back button, a home button, or a task view button is crazy to me and really inconvenient) but it's a very refined operating system but that just means that you can't do half the things that you can do with an Android. Honestly it's a very similar thing to Windows versus Mac. Mac is a very refined operating system with a lot of things that just work better on it. Like a lot of adobe products happen to work better on Apple devices. But Windows has versatility. As unoptimized as Windows can be. It allows for such a more customizable user experience. And you're not limited to "but does it work on mac?" Or "does it even exist on Mac" which granted that's less of a thing now. But there are still a good number of games that I play that are not available on Mac at all. Or apps that I use that aren't available on Mac. Windows simply has the versatility and the majority of things made for it. Which is a similar argument for Android. Basically I'm saying Android is the windows of the phone world. Unoptimized yes. But the versatility is unmatched.

    • @qu3nt
      @qu3nt Před 27 dny

      @@justyouraveragegamer6142 you can load the .ipa if you know how to do it tho. however i was just talking of iOS not apple in general.

  • @triccks6184
    @triccks6184 Před 28 dny +55

    Man, I'm a fan of Linus Media Group lol

    • @rickkarrer8370
      @rickkarrer8370 Před 28 dny +8

      Linus’ head going to explode lol.

    • @pvshka
      @pvshka Před 27 dny +4

      Bro, he explicitly told you to NOT 😂

    • @ffwast
      @ffwast Před 27 dny +2

      Don't be. You heard him.

  • @_Rackham
    @_Rackham Před 28 dny +20

    Apple fandom is for 2 kinds of people, those who don't know anything about tech and those who think it is some kind of status symbol, both behaviours are npc-like. Champion a product if it deserves it, not a company.

    • @Qwertworks
      @Qwertworks Před 27 dny +7

      I wouldn’t quite agree. I have used and still use a PC and a Mac. I would never get a Mac desktop but the MacBook has been so much better to use than many of the Windows laptops I’ve ever had. They are by far not perfect and there are definitely things I prefer on windows over macOS. But Apple does make good products. They are just hopelessly overpriced. It’s just a question of if these things are enough to justify the price to oneself. And for a lot of people it’s not. But it’s not like everyone who buys Apple products has no idea of tech.

    • @Khalmoon
      @Khalmoon Před 26 dny +5

      People keep assuming that every person with an iPhone in their hand has tim cook in the other hand. That's not always true. Some people just looked at the competition and said... nope I like this one most. Same with Xbox, PS & Switch.

    • @dankrigby5621
      @dankrigby5621 Před 25 dny +2

      @@Qwertworks notice he said "apple fandom" and not "apple users". i would assume he is refering to the people that always glorify apple and cant take any criticism for their products.

    • @REXae86
      @REXae86 Před 21 dnem

      Or those that just want a phone that works 😂

    • @REXae86
      @REXae86 Před 21 dnem +1

      @@KhalmoonTHIS!! Is the comment. Majority doesn’t care about this fanboy bs

  • @Zero
    @Zero Před 27 dny +3

    I agree, they only do what's good for their sales.
    They sold me a $300 magic keyboard for my iPad and $150 apple pencil and not even two years later they no longer work with the new ipad coming out.
    If they cared about the environment they would have supported these expensive accessories longer with newer devices.

  • @dosesandmimoses
    @dosesandmimoses Před 28 dny +1

    Thank you for this important message.. I really appreciate the team’s collaboration to bring awareness to the community. Gratitude… competition is the fundamental basis of capitalism. There is enough to go around for everyone! Thanks for having the sac to say it

  • @drackar
    @drackar Před 28 dny +2

    I bought bulldozer because it was on steep, steep discount at the end of it's life, and I was broke AF. That CPU lasted me most of a decade.

  • @Qwertworks
    @Qwertworks Před 27 dny +4

    I bought a bulldozer CPU. FX8350. I did my research at the time and knew it was kinda bad (maybe I didn’t exactly know *how* bad it was). It seemed to be enough for my gaming needs (and honestly it was) and the boards were cheaper … but a big reason was supporting the underdog.
    I also use Firefox even though other browsers have more features that I would like to have over here on Firefox land. But I don’t want the last non chromium browser to die.
    (Well there’s also Safari … I forgot xD … but not on Windows at least

    • @Nina-cd2eh
      @Nina-cd2eh Před 26 dny +1

      I got an 8350 back when it came out, just because it was cheap and had plenty of cores and high frequencies. It's what I could afford, and it turned out great. Still works equally as well, and no issues beyond it not comparing to modern cpus. They were pretty VFM back then, and no amount of complaining would have made me, or anyone I knew, buy the equivalent Intel at that time.

    • @admiralkaede
      @admiralkaede Před 12 dny +1

      tbh u know how google is paying apple.... yeaaaa they are paying firefox around 500 million a year too thats over 90% of mozilla's entire yearly earnings they also pay out opera google pays offs basically everyone the thing is im my eyes firefox is not trustworthy what if google for whatever reason stops paying mozilla then looses 90% of its funding it will then need to lay off massive numbers of staff and then slow development they are also HIGHLY likely at that point to start doing the same bad things google and stuff does to try and make money the mozilla foundation has no real ways to bring in money and the amount of donations they get from users is a joke and isnt paying for hardly anything

  • @0xTJ
    @0xTJ Před 28 dny +4

    When I was last shopping for a GPU, the salesperson at Canada Computers was trying to get me to switch to an Nvidia card at a similar price, but their recent actions as a company have pissed me off, so I'm not interested in buying a product from them for a little while. I'm not a fan of AMD, but they've done fewer notable bad things that I've cared about recently, so they got my money that time.
    Same reason that I don't own a Switch, even though I really want one; Nintendo's actions towards the creators and their customers have made me not want to hand over my money.

  • @Wolvey10
    @Wolvey10 Před 28 dny +2

    I’d love to see an episode where you guys deep dive the food industry 🤣

  • @OrangeC7
    @OrangeC7 Před 28 dny +3

    "Act like it personally, just don't act like it publicly" Linus' face looks so disappointed after Luke said that lol

  • @kingzach74
    @kingzach74 Před 28 dny +5

    I'm not a "fan" of any company but I do try to support the underdogs whenever I can. Mostly because I support competition and giving money to only the companies that are the most successful doesn't make sense to me.

  • @natetheaverage5270
    @natetheaverage5270 Před 27 dny +2

    I go on a bike tour in Michigan called DALMAC and occasionally I'll see people with an AMD jersey and I always wondered where they got it, I guess it's just a thing they sell. $35 is a pretty reasonable price for a good bike jersey, I kinda want one now.

  • @mrembeh1848
    @mrembeh1848 Před 27 dny

    There is still a big difference between a date that your phone could collect and the data that your browser could ever collect. Health data motion data pictures location… that is passive data there is always collected even without your active input. that is vastly different to what you’re searching deliberately.

  • @zeshwonsos
    @zeshwonsos Před 28 dny +2

    Or base your fandom on true value. price/performance. Price includes your data, attention and money. Performance includes power, platform and flexibility.

  • @MrRecorder1
    @MrRecorder1 Před 25 dny

    10:00 - I was a student in ~2010 and could afford my fx-6300 for 50 Euros (only CPU... I had to resort to buying a "Rasurbo" PSU because of budget constraints... urgh). It seemed like a good tradeoff to me for doing some gaming but mainly compiling C++ projects. It did fine and I ran it until 2019. It struggled but kept up!

  • @chubbyBunny94
    @chubbyBunny94 Před 16 dny

    Pls, can someone help me. What phone should I use then? I currently have an iPhone and other Apple devices

  • @renchesandsords
    @renchesandsords Před 28 dny +4

    "it's hard to find a similar example in the tech space" didn't this topic start with Apple? They've been doing the anti repair/consumer thing for a while

  • @micahvisser3772
    @micahvisser3772 Před 25 dny +2

    For the argument around if everyone bought the best product it would become a monopoly, I understand the reasoning/perspective. But for products that aren't for specs, people's needs can differ a lot. M&K is the best for shooters, but I play with a controller because of my cerebral palsy. There will almost always be an audience for alternative products.

  • @Shreyasrangasai
    @Shreyasrangasai Před 28 dny +2

    I have another situation not discussed here, where you might buy an objectively worse brand. This pertains to the idea of vote with your wallet. If a company has the best product but have bad practices, then choosing to not support that company is not a clown decision. You still have a need and hence fill that with the next best item not from that brand.

  • @Balancatraca
    @Balancatraca Před 27 dny +2

    never forget that sufficiently advanced incompetence is indistiguishable from malice...

    • @emporioalnino4670
      @emporioalnino4670 Před 20 dny

      Stupidity or malice, I don't really care. If the outcome is bad, the outcome is bad.

  • @Timoruz
    @Timoruz Před 28 dny +2

    A lot of die hard Apple fans are literally children demanding their parents buy them the newest Apple product.

  • @dspamers
    @dspamers Před 8 dny +1

    I wanna see Linus sitting across the table from Apple team countering all their BS claims in direct conversation that they have to respond to on the spot.

  • @bubbasplants189
    @bubbasplants189 Před 28 dny +4

    its ok linus i love you.

  • @steveashford2721
    @steveashford2721 Před 26 dny

    people sometimes forget that the etymology of 'fan' is fanatic nut you've only got to look in a few forums about certain things the see the fanaticism

  • @Jackaroe702
    @Jackaroe702 Před 27 dny +3

    I have an example of competition being bad: streaming services

    • @auslanderalex5464
      @auslanderalex5464 Před 26 dny +1

      My counter argument to that is that the studios are engaging in anticompetative behavour by licencing to only one streaming service, instead of selling it to all the streaming services. (Even worse some studios own streaming platforms)
      If you are an American you already have a system in place to prevent such behavour in the auto industry. Auto dealerships and manufacturers must be seperate. It should be done with studios and streaming services for the same reason.

    • @admiralkaede
      @admiralkaede Před 12 dny +1

      @@auslanderalex5464 actually the auto dealerships being seperate now a days created a worse problem as your paying far more because of the middle man fees and BS needing to haggle to not get ripped off also most of the dealerships now are owned by massive corperations as well that bought up a bunch of the small dealerships i think that law should be repealed in return dealerships get to stay around but need to find a real way to offer a service also they can always sell USED cars a massive market no reason we shouldnt be able to buy from the dealer also theres a bunch of car brands that would still compete so its not like they could easily jack up prices not to mention used cars

  • @EndureTyrant
    @EndureTyrant Před 28 dny +3

    I think its okay to buy an inferior product if you do it because you're more interested in market competition than having the best thing. Basically fueling competition rather than buying the best experience possible. Its like the guy at LTT who dailys ARC because he's an enthusiast. He wants intel to succeed, but its obvious its inferior for most workloads.

  • @skeleton_craftGaming
    @skeleton_craftGaming Před 28 dny +6

    The trust part of antitrust law is when these companies would go & non-compete agreements forming intercompany trusts. Antitrustful law isn't anti-monopoly law It is anti-anti-competitive behavior law which is why you see the government weighing things like are these companies being anti-competitive not just are these companies monopolies...

  • @Genesis8934
    @Genesis8934 Před 28 dny +2

    4:40 Depending on levels of fanaticism, any sort of "Apologist" type of person for a business feels like a (slow?) slide into a corporate hellscape you see in dystopian media content (i.e., Continuum, Cyberpunk 2077).
    edit: 10:35 What Luke mentions is something I did for a while after I built my first PC. I avoided Seagate as a drive manufacturer because I got a bad drive in my first build. I went straight to WD. Until recently (within the last 5 years), I maintained that stance, and now I feel comfortable buying used drives on the cheap.

    • @ffwast
      @ffwast Před 27 dny +1

      Funnily enough I had the opposite experience. I had several WD drives die and didn't buy another one for like 15 years.

  • @gamingbud926
    @gamingbud926 Před 28 dny +12

    The difference between "fan" and "fanatic"

  • @hybrid9mm
    @hybrid9mm Před 28 dny +2

    Competition does drive innovation you only have to look at the worst example of competition (war) for proof.

  • @zalbert1098
    @zalbert1098 Před 27 dny

    competition IS the reasolution of innovation not the other way around and THATS the truth

  • @hill2hell
    @hill2hell Před 27 dny

    That's mostly how it works in society, that's why they say "a full can is quiet, an empty can makes noise." because people who can't think for themselves are often the ones who voice their concerns the most, and on the other hand the people who are wise enough to realize things are often letting other people do their thing out of respect and common decency.
    Also the analogy of a wise person sees the bigger picture, while the ignorant sees only a part of it. Wise people tend to notice the flaws in these things because they can analyze the whole thing and not just what's shown or told to them.

  • @GregOughton
    @GregOughton Před 28 dny +1

    Haha I bought a bulldozer chip because I didn't know better and memory express had it and the compatible mobo on sale for cheap. That and the hand-me down 4890 kept my room very warm 😂 I think that PC cost me like $600

  • @XionEternum
    @XionEternum Před 26 dny

    My first custom built PC I made for myself was an AMD Phenom 9850 BE on an AM2+/AM3 motherboard. At the time, they were competitive with Intel per dollar.
    Later I upgraded to a Phenom II 1100T as it scaled nicely and was still competitive with Intel. Plus I didn't have to swap out my MB.
    Later I ran into an instruction set incompatibility so I weighed my options. I could get an FX 9590 for $200 and compatible MB for another $200, or I could replace my MB, CPU, and RAM for about $1000 for maybe 20% better performance. I chose the FX. And I ran it all the way to the Ryzen 1800X. Do I regret any part of it? No. I made the correct financial choices. It was functional for me within my budget at the time.

  • @donduck7845
    @donduck7845 Před 28 dny

    I was today years old when I found out maybe Linus' was larger than average for his size face and I've watched LTT for years. I bet no one else thought it either. If anyone reads this and is self-conscious about something about themselves, know that in most instances you are the only one who notices and cares about it. You deserve to accept yourself like everyone should accept you for who you are.

  • @darkflux
    @darkflux Před 15 dny

    there is a fine difference between a "fan" and a "fanboy".
    a Fan is someone who LIKES something. a Fanboy is someone who is OBSESSED with something, and vehemently defends is to the death, even when it is COMPLETELY in the wrong...

  • @weirdyoda04
    @weirdyoda04 Před 28 dny +3

    I didn't buy AMD because I was a fan, I just didn't like Intel as a company.

  • @WyvernDotRed
    @WyvernDotRed Před 25 dny

    The one large company I consider myself a fan of to a limited degree is Valve.
    Which is for all the work put into the Linux ecosystem for the Steam Deck, adequately supporting old hardware and having a rather complete social media network deeper in the site that serves as a sound backup for all platforms I currently use outside of CZcams.
    While I do continue to look at them critically, if I get the choice between a Valve product that is adequate or something else which is better, I will pick the Valve option.
    Examples being generally buying games from then instead of Itch or GOG and now using a second-hand Steam Controller as a remote.
    The Deck is not, as it's the best, in some ways one-of-a-kind device for me that I have found 4 different uses for; as a Linux tablet, an improvised media player, a general game controller and the intended on-device gaming usage.
    While I do like Motorola, Lenovo, AMD and Intel (on anything but CPUs for a few more years) more than the rest, here I do still objectively compare before making a choice of product.
    There I do first look at said brand's offerings and strongly recommend them for their track record of good products, emphasising that not all releases are good.
    The people having made their choice on said recommendations having been satisfied with the picked products and those holding up well.

  • @fyrestrom
    @fyrestrom Před 28 dny +24

    "Dont be a fan. Buy this LTTStore merch!"

    • @rian9684
      @rian9684 Před 28 dny +7

      I'm so glad I'm not you☺️

    • @bobsemple9341
      @bobsemple9341 Před 28 dny +1

      You're so mad lol. Apple fan boy

    • @fyrestrom
      @fyrestrom Před 28 dny +6

      ​@@bobsemple9341 Not sure what I posted that would make you assume I'm an apple fan.

    • @bobsemple9341
      @bobsemple9341 Před 28 dny +1

      @@fyrestrom not even smart enough eh?

    • @StompGojiStomp
      @StompGojiStomp Před 28 dny

      There is fan as in you enjoy the product and like to support it. And then there is a fan where Linus would bring up a baby from behind the desk and starts eating it and the fans would say the baby deserved it. That they don’t mind baby eating. And that walled baby eating is good. And then the baby eating would never get better because people will just deal with primitive baby eating.

  • @italianbasegard
    @italianbasegard Před 28 dny +10

    9:39 Fastest flip-flop ever lol

  • @yaughl
    @yaughl Před 28 dny +5

    I prefer duckduckgo

    • @gh8447
      @gh8447 Před 27 dny

      So do I - I use it exclusively, but at the same time we have to recognise DDG is just a privacy front end for Bing.
      Bing sucks balls, but I'd still rather do that (via DDG) than give all my search terms to Google.

  • @KevinEF
    @KevinEF Před 22 dny

    I remember getting a bundle with the fx 8320 + r9 390 8gb which made the 8320 worth -$20 lol

  • @laitinlok1
    @laitinlok1 Před 28 dny +5

    Well I feel like just some people will buy a AMD GPU for better Linux compatibility than Nvidia

    • @em_the_bee
      @em_the_bee Před 9 hodinami

      Didn't they add Wayland support and started working on open-source drivers? I have an RX 6800XT and it doesn't seem to work with anything involving GPU compute on Linux, and video recording is kinda meh anyway (for other reasons). So anything you can realistically use the GPU for is gaming.

  • @Mf_Cooldawg
    @Mf_Cooldawg Před 26 dny +2

    Linus yells at clouds

  • @Sunbro_Joe
    @Sunbro_Joe Před 24 dny

    Just wanna put this out there but i hope that one day we get to a point in software where we can purchase what ever device you want and purchase the software for it separately like we do with computers. Just buy a iPhone 15 stock and then purchase android or even window software if you wanted. iPhone might still work best with apple software but at least you'll get the freedom and choice to do so. That would also add a healthy competition for apple, google, window, and/or even brand new companies to compete for software vs being forced to use native software.

  • @Studio23Media
    @Studio23Media Před 28 dny +2

    I only use iPhones. I could not be more pleased with these anti-trust suits. They should make the products better.

  • @spicydude1688
    @spicydude1688 Před 27 dny

    I had a AMD cpu back in 2016. I dont remember what it was but it was am3+ socket. Bought it with a prebuilt BC it was cheap, and it was fine for all my needs, sure it wasnt great, none of my games ran at full power BC of cpu bottlenecking but it wasnt that bad. So i think some people just bought it just because them were familiar with the cpu family and stayed not fanboying, but wanting reliability

  • @collinkavaner1612
    @collinkavaner1612 Před 28 dny

    I bought the AMD FX 6300 when an intel i5 would have been much better. I was completely new to PC building and I had a small budget. A year later I switched to an Intel i5-4690k realizing my mistake. Then a few years after that I bought the Ryzen 5 1600. Still run it to this day although an upgrade is very much needed and will hopefully happen soon. I just like to buy whatever I think will be best for my needs. I have had good and bad products from both Intel and AMD.

  • @Exilum
    @Exilum Před 27 dny +1

    I am a big product fan. Not sure there's a brand I've ever been a fan of. Even my most consistent brand alignment, Madcatz, is simply because I really like their mouses (despite some quality issues), I don't really care about the brand itself. I've never and will never buy Madcatz products that are not mouses, simply because they're not what I need or what I'd like.

  • @oalfodr
    @oalfodr Před 28 dny +2

    I still hate MSI because the stuff they made before 2005, my hatred of Maxtor transferred to Seagate... That will never change.

    • @Roxor128
      @Roxor128 Před 25 dny

      I've blacklisted ASUS for their lousy customer service. If I'm looking for hardware, I go "Nope!" the second I see their name attached to a product.

  • @myanime101
    @myanime101 Před 24 dny

    who makes these thumbnails

  • @Cal97g
    @Cal97g Před 8 dny

    Arstechnica is full of people with very interesting if completely unhinged realities.

  • @HeathenHacks
    @HeathenHacks Před 7 dny

    A comedian once said: *Apple is stupid-people friendly.*
    I don't know what to do with that information, so there you go.

  • @scottbitz5222
    @scottbitz5222 Před 17 dny

    I bought Bulldozer because I liked my Anthlon x2 CPU and it was a slot in upgrade for me. I didn't do enough research and didn't realize it was complete trash until MUCH later, but I did buy it and still have the CPU sitting in a box because it's not worth anything!

  • @mukulnag1578
    @mukulnag1578 Před 27 dny

    It funny but alot of the mid to top level has remain same at amd for last 15-20 year ... Lower level post change alot but it you look at the profiles of these people they have all been there since 2000's

  • @FaisalAzizFizzy20000
    @FaisalAzizFizzy20000 Před 27 dny +1

    Linus telling his audience of people of who are “fans of corporations” to not be fans of corporations. Of course the whole comment section is trying to say he meant “fanboys”. No, he certainly meant fans. Anyone saying otherwise is deeply coping

  • @Random-video
    @Random-video Před 27 dny

    Nestle makes the best chocolate cant live without it.

  • @JeffDM
    @JeffDM Před 27 dny

    Based on this conversation, how long do you hold Eufy's shenanigans against Anker before you start taking their money again?

  • @habitatLP
    @habitatLP Před 27 dny

    ...Linus bought a Porsche Taycan, clowning around 🙃

  • @darkflux
    @darkflux Před 15 dny

    for the record, Luke's nose is slightly wider, Linus' nose comes out a bit further from his face.

  • @GreenPizza577
    @GreenPizza577 Před 28 dny

    Wait, is this video about the secondary app store issue? Honestly, idc, but, I go on adult websites often and I don't want my phone to be a victim to a potential weakness that I'm feeling this alternate app store will allow.

    • @emporioalnino4670
      @emporioalnino4670 Před 20 dny

      You don't have to use an 'alternative app store' if you are uncomfortable doing so. But that's not an argument to prevent everybody else from being able to use it.

  • @qu3nt
    @qu3nt Před 27 dny +1

    how can you pay 60$ for a screwdriver not being a fan?

  • @Shadowgardenenigma
    @Shadowgardenenigma Před 27 dny

    20billion to keep them from making a search engine or 20billion to be the default search engine that people were gonna use anyway

  • @vandalphilosopher1971
    @vandalphilosopher1971 Před 26 dny

    Never attribute to malice to what can be attributed to "trust me bro"

  • @MagmaO
    @MagmaO Před 10 dny

    10:27 just remembered when linus out in a street right after AMD announced zen2

  • @deleted-something
    @deleted-something Před 23 dny

    oh boy

  • @teilanittv
    @teilanittv Před 28 dny

    Sometimes its not holding grudges against a brand, but its fear that the same thing will happen again. For example, for AMD video cards back quite a long time ago, their drivers were really really bad. I used to love AMD for providing me a way to buy and upgrade my pcs. Just couldn't afford intel. My first premium video card that I purchased was an AMD circa 2007-8 which was kind of a beast of a card iirc. But the driver updates were atrocious, few and far between, and prevented me from doing a lot of things that I wanted to do at the time. So I switched to Nvidia for my next purchase and I love how much they updated their software and that their stuff just worked when I wanted it to. That was a long time ago, but my brain still thinks about that because people have told me that driver support at least until very recently has still been kind of slipshod. But then there is also that while I appreciate that AMD is doing their best to come out with competing cards, the dont come out with ones that are strong enough for what I want. Like, I dont need a 600w 3060 equivelant card thats bigger than a 4090. Yes im exaggerating but I hope you understand my point. CPUS though, hell yeah, Ill swap back and forth and Im very happy with my current AMD CPUs and well see what happens next upgrade cycle.

  • @cyphaborg6598
    @cyphaborg6598 Před 28 dny

    AMD's FSR3 on a Nvidia RTX 3060.
    That's what good competition should look like (sure the 3060 is not all that but still lol)

  • @Voltaic_Fire
    @Voltaic_Fire Před 25 dny

    You don't need to have a monopoly for anti-consumer evil to thrive, you only need a customer base that is unwilling or unable to leave the abusive corpo relationship.

  • @just-nala
    @just-nala Před 26 dny

    Never get emotionally invested on a company you do not own nor work for: they are a business, you are a customer, your relationship is okay so as long as they make money out of you and you do not cost them money. Once that changes, rest assured, you will find out how many fs they do not give about you, sometimes in the most cruel and asymmetrical way (companies own resources you do not).

  • @gcKukie
    @gcKukie Před 28 dny

    dont be only a fan

  • @nathank-jw7uv
    @nathank-jw7uv Před 28 dny +4

    What about buying the worse product specifically to promote competition like intel arc

  • @lego_minifig
    @lego_minifig Před 24 dny

    20:40 yeah, I think I fall into that category. I am 100% the type of person that would be taken advantage of because of my overly understanding and trusting nature.

  • @fyrestorme
    @fyrestorme Před 26 dny

    12:50 Tailgating onto the "anything but" topic: What about boycotting a company because they use or employ unethical means to produce their products? Or even because they support unethical things with their money? I think that is very legitimate and a part of being a good consumer.

  • @darkflux
    @darkflux Před 15 dny

    anybody remember Cyrix? if only they had not been double-teamed by Intel and IBM, we might still have a 3rd CPU option...

  • @d3c0y39
    @d3c0y39 Před 27 dny

    Guess I'm a clown lol, bad or not used the 8350 til about 4yrs ago without issue, friend still running an 8320 with no issues. 5600 was still a big step up, but if it works, it works.
    Always leaned to AMD because of pricing in AUS. Pentium 90mhz, P2 450, 2800xp, 8350(heavily fsb oc'd), 3600x, 5600x.

    • @ArchAngelX3M
      @ArchAngelX3M Před 26 dny

      @@ganymedehedgehog371 In my country people bought AMD because they had no choice really. You could buy the fx 6100, a decent motherboard, 16 gb of ram for the price of a i3 2100 and 4 gb of ram. Linus choses to ignore that recommended prices mean jack shit outside north america.

  • @matfalkner
    @matfalkner Před 28 dny

    I like how Luke has nuance.

  • @tomboss9940
    @tomboss9940 Před 28 dny

    Most people know and want only google as search engine. Apple gives this as default and cashes in with google. While supporting duck and letting users choose 5 other search engines. Trying to do a "privacy oriented" own search engine would bring the EU & US antitrust organisations against Apple.

  • @admiralkaede
    @admiralkaede Před 12 dny +1

    the thing that doesnt even make sense is most people would use google anyway and would apple REALLY swap away they would have to create an engine then spend months if not years indexing the internet and thats no joke they would have to drasticly ramp up servers to handle that load then after that keep maintaining it then they would have to train the algerithm that would take years to finally get in a decent spot even with millions of users then how would they make money would they charge LOL that would be hard even for apple would they put ads well thats 3 things 1 apple fans dont like ads so that would be a bad PR thing then even if they did it would they use ads well now apple would need to create a whole ad network costing more time more servers and millions more along side the other stuff getting companies to advertise probably wouldnt be hard but still this would be a long nightmare for apple they could also integrate a 3rd party ad solution like google ads but then they get less money and problems with user tracking or would apple just.... keep google or bing even yahoo stopped indexing its own engine and uses bing and google duck duck go uses bing and google brave mostly uses bing and google but they have indexed some stuff sure apple could just do what they do but im sure they would still need agreements and such overall google is VERY dumb to be paying apple this much money

  • @callibor3119
    @callibor3119 Před 28 dny

    Open source, free softwares and public domain. If we are not behind that, we are the reasons why these corporations do to us to their liking.
    This is the race for AI and a metaverse. And if we are not behind the codes, both hardware and software, of both AI and the metaverse, then what would we have left to care for once a good portion of technology are rendered useless?

  • @denverboyd9953
    @denverboyd9953 Před 28 dny +1

    It is actually pretty funny to me. Ive had android flagships for a long time. I make ebough money to rock essentially whatever tech i want. I bought a m1 macbook air and realized at the price you can find them second hand. I bought mine for 500 its a steal of a deal. Then i wanted to buy headphones and for the price air pod pros 2nd gen were a great deal. Then i looked at tablets and ipad has the best tablet. For phone im still rocking the latest samsung. Samsung is better specs wise than iphone but in September im switching to iphone so i can havr all of my devices talk to each other.

    • @dankrigby5621
      @dankrigby5621 Před 25 dny

      dude what? for the price the airdpods pro 2nd gen were a great deal?? if you know anything about audio products or headphones, there are way better headphones at this price range. apples doesnt really make good headphones. i understand getting them for convenience in the appl eeco system, but looking at their technical data, they are really overpriced for their audio quality.

    • @denverboyd9953
      @denverboyd9953 Před 25 dny

      @@dankrigby5621 you're just wrong. There is a reason why every tech youtuber rocks them.

    • @dankrigby5621
      @dankrigby5621 Před 25 dny

      @@denverboyd9953 every tech CZcamsr, but no single audio engineer CZcamsr rocks them. What does that tell you? Lmao having people use them is no proof at all. Lots of people use raycons, and they are still famously bad tech. Let me guess, the CZcamsrs rocking the airpods pro also have an iPhone and benefit from their integrated ecosystem.

    • @dankrigby5621
      @dankrigby5621 Před 25 dny

      @@denverboyd9953 oh and btw im not saying they arent great tech, they certainly are, but if you are looking for audio quality, there are several better options in the same price range, or even cheaper. if you really want to go all in there are wayyy better options, but they also cost a bit more than even airpod pros.you were the one claiming they would be the best in their price range, and that is simply not true. altough with other options you cant benefit from the apple ecosystem, which you (and alot of other tech people rocking apple) certainly do. if I was to use airpods pro with an android, i wouldnt get these benefits, so there would be some better options for the same price range, since I would only be looking for audio quality, since i cant really use their ecosystem features.

  • @tenkaminari
    @tenkaminari Před 25 dny

    I'm not sure if Linus saw my question in other videos or it was someone else's comment. But as one of the person who questioned about monopolization, I would like to explain/excuse myself.
    I totally agree about having competition is good. But what I don't understand is why the process of creating competition is good. I know nothing about marketing or law, so based on oversimplified argument that I heard (Apple is monopolizing iOS) made me question about why company is not allowed to monopolizing their own creation just because other company failed to create a product that could compete with it.
    Even though it might not be addressed to me, but being labelled as a "fan" of a company because of questioning the argument to understand it more was a bit annoying. It sound to me like "I said it's monopolizing, then it's monopolizing. Just trust me bro."
    P.S. I understood a bit more about it from MKBHD's video about why it might be illegal.