Ceramic Armor that's Actually Affordable
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The foam in front of the ceramic plate is more to protect the plate from drops etc.
I was going to write this but it’s the top comment. Ceramic is surprisingly delicate for something that can stop a high velocity projectile.
@@mikechecks5994 that's the point and what makes impact absorbtion better . I'd pick ceramic over steel anydsy
Also with the Army’s new body armor system they’re going to allow for up to 58mm of back face deformation instead of the NIJ 44mm. So they’re saying is you can survive some more broken ribs and still be okay lol
Maybe humans got tougher? 🤣
These days? 😅
Saves 15% weight.
I am always curious about these armor tests. I've always said "would you trust your life to budget armor?" Answer, yes. Militarys do it all over the world. My Level IV plates cost $380 for 3 of them. 1 to test, 2 to keep. Plus, I know what's in them, because I was there when they were manufactured. The 1 I tested, which was chosen at random, exceeded my expectations. Multiple hits, from AP rifle rounds, and little spalling.
Free advice, if you want an easy way to control spalling with steel plates, use a level IIIA soft plate, and turn it around so that the face is facing your steel plate, with the back facing the front of your carrier. It works great for catching fragments.
The IIIa panel isn’t going to catch frags that typically exit the sides and top of steel plates.
@@BuffRANGE depends on how you attach it. Keep in mind, the majority of hits in any combat situation will rarely be head on. For this reason a rubber coating is much worth a shit either. A IIIA soft plate, multiple sheets of Kevlar and simple Gorilla glue works wonders. The materials will cost a minimal amount. Try it yourself.
@@scaler1179 A better idea is one of those frag sleeves like a few people sell, to full encase the steel plate.
@@scaler1179 it's funny that you are telling this dude to "try it himself"
Click on his channel. This dude is far and away the best armor testing channel in the world. I guarantee that what he has seen and done with armor in the last month would blow you mind.
No offense. Please. We are all part of the same community.
God bless
@@scaler1179 I don't think you understand who you're addressing... your advice is literally just worthless horseshit compared to the guy you're talking to lmfao
That's impressive considering y'all shot it point blank. Keep up the great videos
As you allude to in one screen shot the foam on the strike face is for drop face protection on NIJ 06 and upcoming 07. This protects the strike face from cracking when dropped or bumped. The NIJ lab testing has a rig that drops the plate 2 times on its face.
The foam face is to protect the plate because the 06 cert calls for protection from a 2 meter drop.
I’ve got both the 1155 single curve and the 1155 multi curve. Definitely recommend going for the multi curve. Excellent product for the money with the only trade off being heavier than other competitors.
Have you wore these in a all day class?
NIJ standard requires two drops of the plate on its strike face before testing. The foam is there to protect the plate against breaking from falls and bumps, it's not for spall.
FYI: RMA side plates are too thick to fit in Velocity side pouches. They are well over 1” thick.
Unless Wombat pulled a fast one and moved his thumb to the part of the measuring tape closest to the clay, the deformation number for the .338 Lapua is over exaggerated. If you look, he has the measuring tape almost flat on the shot shell instead of flat on the clay. That tape is at least 1" wide. So I figure there is between .5 and .75 inches added to the actual amount of deformation.
Homie LOOKS like Beavis too lmaooo.
Getting shot is gonna suck..... Yep.True statement.
As a prior commercial diver I appreciate the reference to pleasure versus Navy dive tables. Lol
These guys were big sponsors at a huge police event the Waterloo PD put on a couple years ago. All those cops had RMA for their personal purchased armor- not sure if the PD used them for their issued stuff. I gotta hang out with them as a another vendor. Cool dudes.
Dude 🥰
.30-06 is hard to find but not dumb. Greatest rifle round ever made
Enjoyed the video (infotainment as you called it). I think where you earned the 5 star rating is at the 12:33 minute mark in the video. Thank you, will be looking forward to the next one.
Being shot by a 338 Lapua is usually going to be from long distance via sniper, not up close, so it will have less energy on RW impact.
Plate carriers will do a fair amount of spall protection when combined with the foam antispall coating on the front of these things. The plate carrier is usually a tough cordura ballistic cloth.
Thumbs up for seeing whombat back on the channel!
Nice to see you Wombat!!!!!!
Always makes me laugh every time I hear someone say that you can get hit with a plate on and it won't hurt.
Impressive that it took a .338, would be crawling away but alive.
Exactly I bet you still break something, I just don't want a bullet in or through me
Doesn't Botach / Battle Steel have level 4s for $100 a plate? Gunsngear has a great review on those and they're also ceramics.
Their made in China plates, so, you'll get what you pay for.
@@robertharper3754 They have tested very well regardless of price or country of manufacture
@@monkeymouse1403, no, they haven't. Quality Control is a big deal here, over there not so much. It's just like the Chinese made optics, you can get a good one every now and then, but as a whole, they're nowhere near as good as quality glass. People like that kind of stuff because it is cheap and they don't know any better.
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@@monkeymouse1403 Don't forget, all of the logistical nightmares we have been having since 2019. People complain they can't get stuff, but that's because it comes from China. People then complain that USA products cost more. It's a trade off.
Curtis\VSO what type of backing clay did you go with ? I don’t think you mentioned it in the video?
Buffman did an excellent video on this but can you do one on the RMA 109X series of plates?
What about doing a test putting the plate to the side instead of facing straight toward the rifle.
if it stops a round head on, it'll stop a glancing blow no problem. It's better to test it head-on because that is the most stress your armor will ever go through. Skipping bullets is easy. Catching them is not
@@trashcompactorYT +1 head on is worst case. Any increasing angle of attack requires the bullet to pass through more material.
Min of 30 sample size to ensure that results are statistically significant
Great video
RMA: fuck yeah!!!!
everyone in the comment section : hit it again
RMA: please god no !!!!!
Never understood buying cheap armor. Your life is worth more than $169. 54R proof or not, I'd be willing to pay more for a product that I know will consistently be produced at high quality than take a gamble on cheap armor that may be produced in an inconsistent or hasty manner in order to meet the cost to labor ratio needed for such a price.
That being said, this was impressive. I hope no one ever takes a 54R to the chest at close range but good to know this would have saved them.
This armor is cheap because it's heavy as fuck. They make much much more expensive armor that uses rarer materials that are lighter.
Just because you think price = quality, doesn't make it so. If $120 plates work, they work. And yes, the cheap Chinese plates do in fact work and work well.
The Army SMU is now using level 4+ armor that’s soft and flexible like pistol armor, .25” thick, and weights less than half a pound. Like wearing a t shirt
no they don't. If so can you provide a source?
Hell yeah, botach sells the Chinese version for almost that much, this one made in the USA? Good price
the price of Freedom is constant alertness and willingness to fight back.
many people joining territorial defense forces of Ukraine without any basic protective gear and body armor and as a patriots they're fighting for freedom even being shot ...
is anyone here willing to help with SAPI plates level 4 to protect Ukrainian people's lives???
Test some armor that says it will save your life, but probably won't. That would be very useful to see.
I totally got that reference! I just watched that movie again last week.
Im not getting something, is that soft clay pannel behind the armor plate ?? Is that to show how much energy goes through the front plate at the person ! even if the bullet doesn't get through?? thanks
This is the more scientific methodology for this kind of test. Not perfect obviously especially since you’d need to test many intermediate calibers of significant velocity and mass and many other factors including temperature and testing the plate soaking wet.
These backyard science tests are still pretty useful for us non-science type guys.
@@john-paulsilke893 GREAT , What I didnt understand is, what is the other .clay looking , plate behind the Armor plate ?? the one that shows the deforming ! Thanks
Yes that’s what it’s for, they have data that says the human body should be able to take x number inches of protrusion before internal injuries can be life threatening as a result from that protrusion.
@@genechoate5020 but it has to be a specific clay, heated and kept at a specific temperature for that number to be accurate. This is a step in the right direction for Armor testing but they should make the effort to shoot at 45 ft and as head on as possible.
3:02 I gotta get that t-shirt!
Please do Hesco Level IV plates next!!
I researched these quite a bit. I like mine. They are chubby, and definitely not light, but they do the job.
Try to get some Predator Armor 3+ Kevlar wrapped plates.🤞🏽🤞🏽
LET'S GO BRANDON!
LET'S GO BRANDON!
LET'S GO BRANDON!
They are good stuff
7.62x54R API ammo will go through SAPI plates so its likely it will go through this plate as well. im also sure there are .338 loads that will go through as well. .300gr is heavy for caliber for .338 a 200 or 250gr load likely would have enough energy to punch clean through
I would like to see you guys demonstrate 5.56 hitting a legit 3200+ FPS on this armor. I have heard instances where armor can stop monster calibers like the ones in this video, but fail to stop common intermediate calibers with even questionable armor-piercing capability, like green tips.
What's people top choice, I need advice for a purchase, RMAs, Guard dogs, or Hescos? What we running g boys while we larp?
Have you tried the LAPG plates??
But what’s your favorite armor? That’s the question I want to know?
I too would like to know what plate you’d choose if you were 100% going to be shot in the chest with a super fast bullet?
The *Great Cornholio🌽* demands TP.
Now this ceramic plate is barely lighter than their steel plates. Why wouldnt I just go steel then?
Can you test their steel and see how good thier anti-fragmentation layer is?
Look up Apex Armor solutions and check out their articles on ceramic and steel plates, and the 1155 plates are almost a pound lighter. RMA overbuilds their plates, so yeah, they might be a little heavier than other ceramics but they'll outperform a lot of other plates.
@@robertharper3754 Their 1199's are only about 5 pounds each. Basically you pay more for lighter weight plates of the same protection level.
we have a suggested steel plate. links on the affiliate page. you can also look up the vids. any company is welcome to submit their offering for testing. I dont think their steel is their highlight item
Thanks for the info!
@@kenofken9458, pretty much, but they make affordable high quality 1155's that most people can afford, and the weight isn't too terrible.
I would have liked to see the more common calibers. 5.56, 308, 300blk or 7.62x39. You know, stuff we might get shot with. Its great that it stopped these, but I wonder how little it would have deformed with the less powerful stuff.
If it stopped this, it'll stop those.
Can you test battle steel products
Does the ceramic go across the full width and height of the plate?
Yes, There are other CZcamsrs that have tested and shown this.
Yes. Full edge to edge. That’s why it weighs more than most.
Bummer, no Canada shipping. 😢
Exporting hard body armor is a tricky business. It's governed under International Traffic in Arms Regulations and needs a permit from the U.S. Department of State. It's not impossible but it's a thicket of regulations and liability few body armor suppliers will want to deal with unless maybe they get major orders from foreign governments.
@@kenofken9458 yup, many of our provinces require you to have a firearms license to purchase and own body armour. It’s like needing a driver license to wear a seatbelt and have a motorcycle helmet. 😳
@@john-paulsilke893 There are regulations coming and going. Even if purchase in Canada was completely unrestricted, U.S. sellers still have export restrictions on the plates. Nothing is impossible, just a matter of the right paperwork and lots of it.
@@kenofken9458 I already have gear but a cheap lightweight rig would be nice, especially when shooting armoured division in 3 gun.
Mannnnn I just bought the CA stop making videos lol 👍🏾
if you used our code, you got a good deal anyway
Has anyone ever said he sounds like DevilDogGamer? 🤔
Great video.
No penetration at point blank range Wow! Like some one is going to shoot a rifle at you at that distance.
What about rts ceramic plates?
2 of my friends have these. I run LTC lvl 4 ICWs in my JPC.2. my friends plate carriers (Mayflower and slickster) with the RMAs easily weigh 2x more than mine. If you don't wanna be weighed down by your carrier, avoid these plates.
How much were your plates
I was thinking about buying about the RMA ones but when I looked at the weight I changed my mind
What’s the price difference? How much did your plates cost you?
i do not see his coupon code- doe anyone have it? thanks
I saw some level III plates for like $55, but sub $170 for quality level IV ceramic is a GREAT deal...
that was a dope video
loved the methodology and clarity and measurement
338 lapua
I want to see LVL4 plates hit with 45-70.
Some of the impact would knock you on your butt!! This may lessen the back deformation.
6:15 .338 is 30 cal?
Yeah. Like 308.
@@Upharius So then .270 is also 30 cal?
@@snek9353 Nope. Do a little googling on rifling to understand bullet diameter and bore diameter. It's very confusing, but trackable.
@@Upharius Ohh yeah, .270, .308, and .338 are very confusing to you I'm sure.
@@snek9353 Yep, I'm no expert. I humble myself before the ballistic gods.
2 degreed guys, not a decent measurement tool in sight. Lord help us. Entertainment value indeed.
Algorithm defeated
You are the Bill Nye, the science guy, of the gun industry!!!
Eww…
@@VSO_Gun_Channel You want me to remove the post because of the comparisons??? I'll be more than happy to do so!!!
@@bryanduchane2371 you need to apologize for this nasty comparison by mailing Curtis a bow tie.
Sorry... Didn't realize that would hit a nerve. Strike me with the lightning from heaven for making that type of comment..... SORRY I didn't mean to start a hail storm... Thought Bill Nye was a safe choice???
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Sure the 338 didn't go through, but you get punched directly in the organs by Mike Tyson. Beats being dead but you'll probably spend the next couple days wishing you were. Impressive results for the price, might be worth a purchase.
That concussion would probably kill you. Maybe not immediately but within a day or two.
There misinforming people about body armor by using wrong fire arms on armor
I want you to check out Hudi Tactical. They have a cermic polyethylene armor on ebay that is a great price and weight. Level 3 plus thats .70 thick and 4.6 pounds for like $130. Has a few videos on you tube as well. Curious on your thoughts.
I love science but I do get bored so I usually speed up the videos to 1.5 -1.75 or even 2 which gets me info faster and makes many sound like chipmunks but not you guys
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Definitely made in china
Im gonna go ahead and say THAT much pressure on your heart is gonna cause a jump in blood pressure SO fast that your eyeballs are gonna pop out. Itll literally blow every blood vessel up.
Idk. Could be wrong but thatd be terrible. Fack.
Ceramic plates are a good idea for logistics commanders who see numbers, not people. Single strike protection is all well and good, until you get hit multiple times, or cannot get a replacement before your next engagement
Most quality ceramics are multi hit ;)
Seriously, watch any ceramic armor test.
Steel is going to cause shrapnel too which can end up in your arms or throat.
Ceramic is also lighter (way lighter if you use boron carbide).
It's literally all advantages for ceramic.
@@WaterZer0 I broke 3 plates doing PT in full kit when I was serving. Paying for an anti-spall coating and the added weight is a waaaay better alternative than a plate that is designed to disintegrate when struck
@@technewb8241 so all ceramic armor sucks because you got issued some shitty ones? okay bud
Yo try LA Police Gear, they’re even cheaper at $120 ea, and NIJ IV STA (edited)
Sorry LaPG’s plates are NOT NIJ certified. They are only tested in accordance to the standards.
@@BuffRANGE apologies, I thought they were, I just checked mine and they’re NIJ IV STA.
@@KinseiSensei it’s commonplace in armor market. Sellers use wordsmithing :) there’s an NIJ CPL list and is easily searchable to find manufacturers. That plate is a solid import plate though.
LA Police Gear = avoid at all costs, with everything they sell lmao
@@colins5142 I’ve had nothing but good luck with their stuff. It’s all way better than the shit I was issued in the Army, and it won’t break your bank either.
30.06 is a dumb round lmao
Fudds love it tho
Well NIJ Level Iv and RF3 that’s the standard but it’s an armor piercing round going 2880 fps. Something no one’s Garand or 1903 will hit with surplus.
What’s going on with bones 🦴?