Real Time with Bill Maher: Islam and Free Speech (HBO)
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Panelists Rula Jebreal and Senator Angus King respond to Bill Maher's statement on the Berkeley controversy.
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This is a "moderate" Muslim everybody.
btsororos So-called moderate muslims are liars.
btsororos there are moderate muslims. i live in a muslim city in India. plenty of moderate muslims here. HOWEVER, it's possible to take a dissatisfied moderate muslim and turn him/her into an extremist.
thevllgppl
Yeah. I never said there aren't any moderate Muslims. But too many of them are like this airhead.
btsororos She's wrong, she's paid to be wrong, but you gotta admit that she is FUCKING HOT.
I want to make her shut the fuck up by fucking the shit out of her.
btsororos wow, I don't see her as an airhead at all. On the other hand, maybe, on this issue, Bill is painfully unnuanced, and a bit of an "err-head".
I moved to Israel 12 years ago, and I've met many arabs here and the I've met gay palestinians who ran away from Gaza, and gay arabs that ran away from Jordan and Lebanon , because you are not allowd to be gay there, what the fuck is she talking about?!
She's an apologist/history revisionist. What she said about about gays is a complete and utter lie. Many Muslims run to Israel for many reasons, whether they want to be openly gay and enjoy their lives, want to leave Islam and become Christian, etc. Israel is the only truly free nation in the ENTIRE ME no matter what anyone says.
You're allowed to be gay in Lebanon. Not sure about Jordan though.
UnknownFork not true www.google.co.il/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=is+homosexuality+illegal+in+lebanon
+UnknownFork I'm MORE than sure if hezbollah caught you flaunting your gayness in Lebanon it wouldn't end well
Guy Smiley Hezbollah doesn't control all of Lebanon
As an atheist I support Israel because alot of Muslim majority countries aren't tolerant of gays or women's rights or alcohol or non religious people
I’m not usually a fan of Bill Maher but he was right here sorry 🤷
“Don’t criticize Islam” is exactly why we need to criticize Islam.
Right to speak
I agree.
The fact and the matter that Muslim say this is because they found this religious unquestionable. And they found the answers for that from Quran. But actually in Quran many times it has been stated that even people from other relegions and other faculties of thinking are welcome to talk criticize and question. Even Ibrahim once asked from god how could you bring back all people with the same quality that they have right now in the eart? He was just curious to know. God punished him? No. He asked Ibrahim to do sth and then proved him. So, questioning in Islam is not prohibited. You never see a verse in Quran saying Do/tell and then Listen. In most verses and hadises the order is to first Listen and then Do/tell/ or act or whatever. So, since you have the power to choose and god gave you the power to do so, which is the first thing that distignuishes human beings from other creatures, then the essential thing in Islam is questioning and thinking. We have a hadis from Muhammed saying one hour of thinking is better than seventy years of praying. Also I think media especially in US are bringing people who does not have the resolution to answer the questions in the right manner and with the right words. If that was the case we have had many pple transformed into Islam. So, Islam is not pictured as it is. God bless you
well maybe not in gaza XD
Ofcourse you can criticise but you have to be educated in order to talk but this guy talks to himself
She lost all credulity when she said you can be openly gay in Gaza
+John Raybould Well, you can be openly gay in Gaza,. but you'll also be dead. A technicality, I grant you.
+John Raybould you can
Iirc she said you can't be gay in Gaza, but you can be gay in Jordan, Lebanon, etc.
and thrown off rooftops
And Alive :)
Her arguing against bill giving a speech is exactly the proof of everything bill has said
This woman should give a masterclass in gaslighting.
There is name for that. B**ch.
whats a secular muslim?
+Dee Kay i wondered this myself, and it's a bit of an oxymoron. She might be referring to government + religion. so she's for secular government + muslim religion? That's the only way it makes any little bit of sense.
Bob Kar I was just trying to explain what the speaker meant, not justify islam or religion in general, or give my opinion of the matter.
+Dee Kay Someone that believes in separation of church and state but follows Islam.
+Dee Kay A muslim that does not believe in the separation of religion and state. Like Obama or David Cameraon, these are christian men but they dont govern by religious law.
+Jos Bankston A secular muslim is like a UTOPIA.I am Muslim and there is no such thing.
Religion=/=Race
I'm allowed to scrutinise anything that is a choice, being born black is completely different than saying 'I'm going to be a Muslim'.
+RatchildUK But Muslims dont have a choice being born into a Muslim family
coolbuddydude1 -_- Yes they fucking do.
+RatchildUK Not much of one really, because when religion is most powerful - it's about force and subjection of the masses. Many christians were under the same conditions in middle aged Europe. Try saying "I'm not a muslim" in Saudi Arabia, Egypt, or "I'm no christian" in iron age France, etc. Lets just modify the original point by the op to say...
"I'm allowed to scrutinize anything that is learned or chosen , being born who you are is not a choice, but what is thereafter learned or chosen by means of culture is always subject to criticism."
That's much better, and "scrutinise" is fixed.
+RatchildUK Really? Do they? Did you get to choose your parents? I had no idea. If you have the option at the time of conception to choose who your birth parents are, I would definitely have chosen someone else entirely.
***** You can't decide what skin you are born with, you can sure as hell say 'that religious stuff you have been telling me seems aweful fishy'.
You muppet.
Should I call Affleck and get him back here!!! Pure gold.
I like how she said “do you want to listen,” but will not stop talking 😂
"I'm all for freedom of speech - I love debates. I hate monologues."
Really?
+Vinnland yeah, right -- you caught her monologuing, Bill.
+Vinnland She's losing the argument because she's too emotional and seems to be overly offended.
+J Co I have to agree with you
David Howell How timely of me and convenient for you (now you don't have to engage in any introspection, since launching a counter attack is just as effective a use of your limited mental resources).
David Howell If only that were an objective truth documented in the annals of human discovery - but alas, you fall flat on your face, yet again.
I shan't waste anymore of my time. Much too much of far more importance to take care of. Be well unskilled one.
This lady just speaks on and on without thinking, and refusing to listen to opposing arguments. You can tell Maher just gave up with her because he knows she's not open to reason on this subject. I don't even like Maher that much, but Jesus fuck, these people seem to have it set in their minds that criticizing a RELIGION-- a set of ideas, is the same as criticizing a race. Is Maher a bigot when he criticizes Christianity? Do they presume him to mean he hates all Christians when he criticizes the bible? No. Now why is it that Islam gets the double standard? It's ridiculous. A tell-tale sign that an opposition doesn't have much stand on is that their efforts focus on suppressing the dissent of outside opinions.
themanclaw2 obviously because they have carved out the situation where they can cry "racism" and "prejudice" whenever you make any slightly negative comment towards islam they go the streets(& not just peaceful protests & worldwide outrage) immediately when you make a joke about their pedo prophet
*****
what to say to that... hitch bless?
themanclaw2 Muslims have been racialized. Racists conflate racial identity with the Muslim identity. Muslims in the west deserve protection from racists because they are a minority. Simple fucking facts. Now repeat after me, dipshit. You. Don't. Need. Magical. Race. Genes. To. Not. Suffer. Racism.
Dingo Egret So, because some racists use it as a somkescreen for their bigotry, it is therefore wrong to criticize the religious dogma? Sorry, but I don't buy it.
Spot on, good sir.
She might be the best example I've ever seen of a stunningly beautiful person making themself unattractive just by speaking
Nah I'd still hit it even if she was covered in swastika tattoos
She's stunning! And her voice is lovely!!
@@abdullah82m to be honest, yup I'd have to go there too, if only to shut her up for a few minutes
? beauty, is only skin deep, for a short flash of a moment, in eternity. SHE would be better off, shutting that trap door, and letting people guess, whats in that unthankfull head of hers, and keep whatever dignity remains. Go to your own country, and talk all over, louder than your neighbors, woman. she is NOT like-able. opens mouth, and proves it. "" where many words are, SIN IS NOT WANTING !! "" GOOD-DAY to all. avoid loud persons, which spew drivel, u too, djt....
God does not give with both hands. An absolute imbecile.
I love that she calls killing an apostate a “criminal act of the minority” IT IS A MAKOR BELIEF IN ISLAM!!!
The punishment for leaving the religion or being accused of criticising it is death. At the moment I’m supposed to be LEGALLY killed in 12 muslim countries in the world just because I don’t want to follow a religion i was born in .
Its mostly not enforced
It is in tens of African countries as well that are majority Christian, actually illegal in alot.
@@MotiMota15And that makes it okay?! Also… Mostly?
Not true
I want a source
Christopher Hitchens said that " being offended " is not an argument
that's great, how is hitchens doing these days?
@@mollkatless what the actual fuck does Christopher Hitchens dying of cancer have anything to do with this.
Hitchens could be snobbish, elitist, & annoying but on this (& many other topics) he's dead on accurate { imnsho = in my not-so-humble opinion}
First time I've ever liked Bill
@@mollkatless Asshole!
“Ok maybe not Gaza” said it all.
Jacob Hughes she then says they can be apostates in Lebanon disregarding the fact that lebanon is not a muslim country and is 40% christian, and even though you would most probably get killed by muslims if they found out
Is Gaza the whole Muslim world? Can you have a mosque in rural Arizona? LMAO. How does that SAY IT ALL?
Being gay is legal for women in Gaza
@@aj5374 so women can be Lesbians but men can’t be gays. Perfect recipe for hypocrisy.
How are you doing Jacob?
"Is there a gay bar in Gaza?"
😂😂😂😂
She lied when she said that gay people could survive in Gaza.
@@dr.g3860 all the gay palestinians escape to tel aviv
Are gay bars shot up in America?
If there was, it would have to move to Israel to avoid being massacred by Hamas.
@@MotiMota15 they can't even live in Israel
Her dad was Sufi. Most of the muslim world wouldn't accept him as one of their own.
She is ridiculous. Defending Islam at all cost disregarding the facts.
says the bigot ignoring other religions' crimes
PixelDansIronFist Says the idiot who doesn't recognize when people are criticizing other religions because he has no clue as to what he's talking about.
Lary Mcfart
Christian imperialists kill more ppl and cause more suffering.
U idiots criticize Muslims way more.
Conclusion: RACIST BIGOTS!
***** Christians have killed way more than 80 million people.
***** Numbers pulled out of your ass! And I'm not Muslim, pal.
she literally just complained about "not having a dialogue" while speaking for 80% of the segment
Yeah, but 80% time she was speaking she was continuously being interrupted. Whenever any of the men spoke she let them speak. But the very moment she started making a point, they kept trying to interrupt her.
She hates other people's monologues
@@zaynsabri3958 the exact opposite of what you're saying here is true. She was allowed to speak for over a full minute at the start, and was constantly interrupting the others as they tried to get a word in edgewise, how could you say something so completely false?
You are whitev
@bkdk66 don't generalize women, that's sexist. We can criticize her actions/statements in the clip without relying on sexism.
If she says the majority don't do or believe those things then they're just straight up apostates to their religion because their book is pretty dang clear on all those issues. It leaves very very little, if any, wiggle room to not follow those things.
Beware of anyone who has to dominate a flawed argument by speaking over you. That is a monologue. Also don’t trust anything that can bleed for days and not die
I've known women that bleed for days... advice checks out.
You can test all religion tolerance by mocking them.
I think you can test all religion tolerance by criticizing them, not by mocking them.
@@boricuadetorontocanada but mocking them works well too
We must criticize to encourage free thinking in society and for its greater good. Also mocking the faith based belief system is just immature. Critiquing it with facts is a supported argument as opposed to just having an opinion of satire.
I don’t know if that would be a test of the religion itself or the people that practice the religion.
@@boricuadetorontocanada Satire is always critique, it does not matter what the joke is, there's always a criticism. Besides, religion is immature by nature.
She claims to want a dialogue instead of a monologue, but refuses to shut up for even one second to allow anyone to respond. Hypocrisy much?
...well Jon Palsy she is a PROUD Palestinian Woman married to a Rich Jewish Guy and has an opinion and refuses to be shut up..I I call that AMERICAN!!!!! Hahahhaihhihi
That's very American of her
Her accent is terrible
+NixonPerez.......TRUST me on this??? Her accent is cool and sexy it WILL grow on you like fungus...
Like taht Latinas accent on GTA.....and THAT was a voice actress!!!!!!,
Nixon Perez is that your only point ?
She complains about a monologue and all she does is monologue.
Bill Maher isn't a bigot at all. He's just being honest and truthful. He says the facts that really are uncomfortable. People call him a bigot because he speaks the truth which hurts people's feelings.
Bill: "Can you be gay in Gaza?"
She: "Yes"
Bill: "And live?" 🤣🤣🤣
It’s funny how people ignore the vast amount of Islamic nations that opening kill and punish gays as well as people who leave the religion
75% of muslims in London think the Taliban is fair and just and they support them
@@clearshade3560 That's because there is not a single state that has its constitution according to Christianity or Judaism. Go and find the punishment of Homosexuality in new and the old testament? If a country which claims to be Christan and has Christan traditions, they would offer the same punishment. It's not about Islam and secularism. It's about religion and secularism. Adultery and sodomy is punishable by death in the Quran, Bible as well as a lot religion.
@@redsnorlax1945 czcams.com/video/Jy9tNyp03M0/video.html
There is your answer, a debate in Oxford union regarding Islam being peaceful or not watch the both sides and than decide.
@DkB badboi Nah man, not my point. The point is to seclude Islam from other religions when all of them have almost similar sayings about such things.
Just because you are offended, Doesn't make you correct
Exactly- you can’t come out being offended with absolutely outdated intolerant and selfrighteous Religion of far gone Medieval. All kinds of western reason-oriented facts (human rights, democracy, protection of minorities, freedom of speech, of religion) speak against this abhorrent belief-order of utter totalitarian attitude. Give up islam or go elsewhere.
That says it all. Correct.
Im offended wheres my cupcake (looks around)
God damn, I hate you lady
Alla Greta lol, when you give up your cult then she will give up her’s.
Listen now. Criticizing Islam is not islamophobia. We have to be able to criticize ideas. We are not being bigoted toward Muslims as people when we criticize the religion. Also, Muslims who hold reprehensible views are not a minority. They are the majority. If you are a homosexual or an apostate in almost any Muslim country, you have to fear for your life because the majority of Muslims believe death or imprisonment is the appropriate punishment for these things. Also, the majority of Muslims believe that women are lesser than men.
Omg this is gold😂😂
She says she hates monologues, then tries to dominate the whole conversation.
no, she's trying to get to the end of what is interrupted a dozen times xD
edit: hey lol bill is probably right when he says that most americans are stupid
it´s sickening how this men constantly interrupt her
@@Ottts22 You must never have seen a show like this. In the US we have what is called "discussion" where people are invited to give opposing ideas. In all the years I've watched Maher's shows, I've never seen any single person monopolize the discussion like she did. She spoke for about 95% of the clip and when someone tried to make an opposing point, she talked right over them.
So, she wasn't interrupted. She took a discussion and monopolized it. Maybe she's not as secular as she thinks. She sure seems to be a true believer to me.
Because she was one against three men plus the majority of the crowd.
First time you've tried to reason with a mad woman?
> Homosexuality is ILLEGAL in Gaza, lol
> Criticism of a religion is not the same as criticism of a race
> Disagreement with someone over a major issue leading to them not being able to make a speech about other issues is a fast track to make the world boring and run by the most easily offended numbskulls on earth
> Criticism of a religion is not the same as criticism of a race
> I've yet to hear Bill Maher make the comments about "all Muslims" that journalists keep referring to. Criticism of a race as an INSTITUTION - via its conduct and the views held by those who follow it worldwide - is not the same thing as saying "all Muslim people". To argue otherwise is to be either very disingenuous or very stupid.
> In the US, Christians have had to put up with generalizations and rude comments and intense criticism for decades - as they well should have. And those who said they shouldn't have to put up with it were (thankfully) mocked into oblivion and irrelevance. Islam is not special in this way.
> There actually is an element who dislikes any random Muslim in this country. Putting in people like Bill Maher in the same category doesn't discredit Bill Maher, it GIVES THEM AMMUNITION AND STRENGTH since the media is unfairly maligning intelligent critics of the actual religion.
> CRITICISM OF A RELIGION IS NOT THE SAME AS CRITICISM OF A RACE
> Homosexuality is ILLEGAL in Christian Uganda, not so lol
> Criticism of a religion IS the same as criticism of a race
as for the rest I don't have time for more dumbass bigoted bullshit
a) I...don't see your point. Yes, Christian Uganda has a death penalty for homosexuality. This is an outrage, it's completely insane - heck, the Christian Right in this country had more culpability in this law than people know, and they should be called out for it. Islam is not the SOLE reason for terrible, illiberal policies like that. But it sure is one of them.
None of this removes the point that Rula was attempting to say you can have a gay bar in Gaza, which....sorry. Completely, utterly wrong.
Christianity also being a cause of stupidity is not a counterpoint. Do you think I'm a Christian?
b) Religion is a choice. A bad one.
Joe Berg a. No you're a Westerner and that is the same as being Christian, cuz white-supremacist Western Judeo-Christian hegemony is the cause of all of these issues!
b- race is just as much of a wilful creation as religion is!
PixelDansIronFist >Criticism of a religion is about as much of an equal criticism of race as is criticism of what your favorite type of story is.... That's because religion is an "IDEA" not a "LIVING THING" it's MADE THE FUCK UP!
>"Homosexuality is ILLEGAL in Christian Uganda, not so lol" - you say this as if you thought Bill Mahr & other criticizers of religion, only criticize Islam, just showing us how ignorant you are of anything that goes on in Real Time & anywhere else.
"as for the rest I don't have time for more dumbass bigoted bullshit". No the real reason is because you have no idea what you're talking about and just decided to walk in and argue your new position on whatever it was you stood for on some video you saw about a topic you probably have spent a couple minutes thinking about.
Lary Mcfart -race is an unscientific idea too, which is why Muslims, aka Mohammedan were considered a race!
-Bill has said Islam is way worse than other religions which is demonstratively false!
-as for the rest I don't have time for more dumbass bigoted bullshit
Hahaha This reminded me of when Trump made the Megan Kelly comment.
Rula is absolutely clueless about what she was talking and made NO SENSE AT ALL. She was so worked up and emotional about the whole thing instead of putting her points across calmly which would have made a better impact from her perspective. By being all worked up and emotional she conceded the ground to Bill even before she actually made a point.
Bill absolutely destroyed her. He is so cool calm and collected in the face of such a worked up and animated person who was COMPLETELY WRONG about almost everything that she stated !
She's a control freak, with no control.
Üte T. Oh and bill maher isn’t?
but I bet shes great in bed. Most control freaks are freaky.
And a liar too.
Bill was being nice to her probably cause she was a guest on his show.
But she's beautiful, and I bet she's a freak
"I hate monologues." Then she proceeds with a monologue.
There is the woman’s ignorance of the speaker who did not know the true Islam and did not search in hadiths about the Prophet urging me not to harm others On the authority of the Prophet, may God’s prayers and peace be upon him, he said: Whoever kills a treaty does not smell the Paradise the scent of , and its wind is from the march of forty days And Islam has commanded charity in treating the people of Dhimma, and it is clear from the sun at the fourth day of the day, and the history of Muslims is full of vivid patterns in applying this approach
Just what I was thinking..and there you wrote it!
That’s what I just said and saw this haha
She was consistently interrupted.
@Matubbar Azad Avijit - মাতুব্বর আজাদ অভিজিৎ I'm not bias I'm counting both and she was interrupted far more than them.
I love how she so arrogantly assumed that Bill didn't know the difference between the various cultures or religions. Liberal/Conservative arrogance always exposes the narrow minded.
Bill the penalty for criticizing the ideology of Islam is death.
Bukhari, 4:241, 56:369, ' Behead those who insult the Prophet"
Quran, 8:39, " Kill the unbelievers where ever you find them."
The problem is that criticism of Muhammad's ideology is taken as criticism of Muslims. They cannot differentiate between the two.
"If free speech is only speech you like - it's not free speech". Couldn't have said it better than Senator King.
There is free speech. But if that’s the case then let’s discuss anti Semitics without any back lash or disproportionate passions amongst the white culture. Exactly
It’s also called courtesy for another culture.
@@IHXnumber1 Just admit that you're against free speech, mate. It feels much better to be honest with yourself.
@@BlankTH I am against biast speeches that suit a group. But turn around real quick with a stone if it’s about them
That’s your “free speech”
@@IHXnumber1 Let's make a list of the kinds of speech you're against:
1. Free
2. Comprehensible
any others?
@@IHXnumber1 as long as it is not a call for violence all speech is permissible. No matter how offensive it is.
“I hate monologues!”, she says while interrupting everyone and dominating the conversation.
she was interrupted a dozen times, get your view right...
How do I know? I wanted to hear what she says, she couldn´t finish one thought;
very bad behaviour of the men
Bullshit. She did all of the talking and for any of the rest to say anything, they had no choice but to speak up.
@@ejnorman8781 debates are for you to get your points across, if they wanted to say something they could and they did.
@Hera k That's called an argument rather than a debate..
She wouldn't let anyone talk.
Her African American and Jew line was pretty factual ngl
People should be able to say whatever they want, but other people don't owe them a platform to yell from.
"How many gay bars are in Gaza?" is exactly the right question, because that's the point. You can be gay in a muslim country, but you could never identify publically as so. It is impossible for a religious state to not oppress it's people.
That is not the right question. The Muslim issue aside, it is despicably hypocritical of Bill to accuse Gaza of being primitive and a violator of human rights given that he is a vehement supporter of Israel: the state that is responsible for mass destruction, ethnic cleansing, and stifling progress of all kinds in Gaza.
neuroIogy Bill Maher is not a vehement supporter of Israel. He doesn't think religious states should exist at all. From his movie Religious: "I'm sorry Jewish friends, but the Jews are as cuckoo as anyone".
There are 100x as many Muslims as Jews in the world. Look at the portion of that mocumentary film he dedicated to ridiculing Judaism.
Bill criticizes ALL religion. You are apparently just determined to be offended by this one particular critique.
Nate in Seattle Israel and Judaism are not the same thing. The quote you provided only pertains to the latter. Every time the issue of Israeli aggression against Palestine has come up on his show, including its most recent series of massacres called "Operation Protective Edge", he has supported it with vehemence and has repeatedly made it clear that he is averse to Gaza's resistance and desire for change.
***** Nor do "we" need another genocidal bloodthirsty state that has no regard for international laws or human suffering.
Nate in Seattle I do not know why Maher supports Israel, but that he supports it can not be argued. He invariably states his support on his show and in interviews when the topic arises, and I challenge you to provide anything that proves the contrary.
2:10 _"I am actually secular Muslim"_
*_And the award for best oxymoron goes to, Rula Jebreal._*
Dumbass, a secular Muslim is someone who believes in the separation of church and state but is Muslim.
What nonsense. Are you a Christian? All religious he texts contradict themselves. Believers pick and choose the lessons they want to use to guide their lives. Under ataturk, turkey was a secular muslim country. It can be done and has happened before.
d dave Ataturk Turkey was and still remains a secular nation. Islam was abolished as the state religion with the dissolution of the caliphate in 1922. And Islamic doctrine has been ignored ever since. Claiming that Turkey is some poster child for new-age secular Islam shows that you know nothing about Islam or the Quran. It's blatant disregard for Quranic teaching, rather than a "secular" form of Islam. In fact the act of removing Islam as the state religion was an act of fitnah, publishable by death in Surah 2 passages 191 and 193 of the Quran (2:191-193).
And to answer your question I'm not Christian. I have similar issues with the Bible as I do with the Quran and the Torah. As you know the Old Testament is filled with abhorrent teachings. Even If I were to ignore the content of the Books, I still find the prospect that an omnipotent, omniscient, sentient, celestial entity, with an unknowable and vastly more unlikely origin than the scientific theories for the origin of the Universe, to be Idiotic.
Bman Chu Well, someone's gotta do it.
Ben David No, they need to be educated, not killed.
That wagging of the finger in the thumbnail 😂😂😂
I wonder how strong Bill's game is...? DID he take her up on her offer to 'discuss' the issue after the show?
This is a clear woman in self denial. A very genuine case of a highly credible HYPOCRITE.
I like the fact that, free speech isn't free speech if it's just what people want to hear. I read the Bill of Rights. The 1st Amendment gives "free speech" not "free ears" That's the problem today. People want to say what they want to say, and hear what they want to hear. There is another word for that "HYPOCRITE!!!
Google Taqiya.
Why
She said "my father was muslim", I assume that implies she is not muslim, but that implies she is an apostate according to Islam, a daughter/son borns in the religion of the parent, so, she is sentenced to death by Islam if Islam is applied...
This is the level of stupidity and ignorance.
@@lucasw59 You do realize the first amendment means the government can't censor you, right? It doesn't mean nobody can censor you.
I feel like this is the Affleck situation all over again. Bill is not generalizing all Muslims, he criticizes Islam.... as he should, relentlessly. And her comparing his criticisms to criticizing African Americans is ridiculous. I really hope she watches this back and realizes how silly she sounds. .
he criticizes Islam way more harshly than an other group who ae just as worse and even more so in some terms like bod counts tallies!
And u think it's rough being a gay in Gaza, try Christian Uganda where are "loving" Christian missionary radicals are trying to establish the death penalty for African gays! But that's not as bad, cuz there isn't much oil in Uganda for us to steal with wars of aggression and racist rationalization like with the middle east and Muslims right?!
*****
I know some social justice warriors who will. =-)
***** physical facts aren't culturally bigoted prejudices. That's called SCIENCE sonny boy!
PixelDansIronFist Okay, let's just say that I conceded that all religious are just as bad as one another - which I don't believe - but let's say that I did. What difference would it make? Religion seems to be one of the few places where we get offended in this way. If he's criticizing it "more harshly" than other religious that doesn't take anything away from the fact that Islam indeed needs to be criticized.
However, as I said, I do believe Islam is worse. This idea that Christianity, Mormonism, Scientology, and Islam (and any other religion you can think of) are EXACTLY the same in terms of potential danger is ridiculous.
PixelDansIronFist Another thing you should keep in mind is that we're not talking about Muslims vs Christians we're talking about Christianity vs Islam.
Thank you Bill !!
She's just like a kid who'll prove his point no matter what
She basicly thinks that free speech means «shut up and let me speak without countering».
for her, thats debating, i dont even want to imagine what a monologue is
I think it's reasonable for her to be allowd to present her nuanced, informed argument without being INTERRUPTED every two seconds. Countering is best done once a person has finished fleshing out their point. I love Bill, but I wanted to hear what she had to say without constant interruption.
This poor woman has been abused so much she can't think
that is ever so true @@PokeySoggybottom
"Censorship is telling a man he can't have steak because a baby can't chew it"-
Mark Twain
Isam boooo👎👎👎
This is not a small minority of muslims who thinks that you are unworthy if you are not muslim. It’s all of them. It’s part of the religion.
Muslims actually have no problem with Christians and Jews since they are fellow men of the book.
Well actually, many of them are anti semitic but technically their laws protect Jews
The real objects of their hatred are lgbt people and apostates
“In order to think you have to risk being offended.” - Jordan B Peterson
What the hell is a "Secular Muslim" or a "Secular Christian" ?
The word Secular itself means not belonging to any particular religion
Ain't that BS
@Fatema Jahan so secular Muslims exist only when Muslims are in minority? why don't you criticize the so called Islamic republics like Pakistan Bangladesh Afghanistan and many before pointing fingers at India?
@Fatema Jahan Bangladesh may not be an Islamic nation but Islam was its state religion for over 30 years and you might want to read this article about non Muslims faith
www.sundayguardianlive.com/opinion/may-no-hindus-left-bangladesh-30-years
and no Pakistan and Afghanistan is not doing any better even for temple for Hindus permission needed to be taken from Islamic Ideology Council talk about religious freedom Ram Kund temple from which the earlier name of Islamabad comes from before Pakistanis changed it has been made a museum just like Lyallpur's name was changed, and don't even talk about how Pakistanis have forgotten the sacrifices of Bhagat Singh,NetaJI etc. 4 percent non Muslims regularly are forcefully converted women kidnapped on blasphemy and other made up charges they are jailed don't teach me pehle khud sudhro dusro ki gyan mat baanto
You can’t be a secular Muslim. That makes you an exMuslim. The moment you go against stoning gays and adulterers to death you are out of Islam. You can’t deny any of the Islamic texts.
@Fatema Jahanimmediately brings up BJP.this shows how narrow and hateful your mind is.
Your world revolves around BJP, RSS and Islam.
@Fatema Jahan lol.I don't even support Modi.
But can you even hold a conversation without bring Modi or RSS? no
She's proving his point. Very irrational. If you don't like the way people view your beliefs, then get better beliefs or work to improve the situation. Don't blame honesty.
*****
It's fine that she lives here. Why wouldn't she want to, anyway? But she brings her views with her, which is why it's so important to attack bad views right away and let people be offended. Offending people is NOT A CRIME.
Without lies Islam dies.
Know Islam. No peace
No Islam. Know peace
I am from Pakistan and most of what that woman is saying is wrong. I mean intolerance is the real thing in our culture.
Wearing make up without hijab and sitting and talking with other men on live TV. I am pretty sure 99% of learned islamic scholars would call her a harami. Most would say she shouldn't represent islam.
She would get 15 lashes in the back for doing that in other Islamic countries
you are so right
+TheHippykiller123 my doctrine allows my to infiltrate her pussy
+MrJimmy3459 I didn't really give a shit about that but thanks for the information
Have you seen how women in Kuwait, UAE, Lebanon, Qatar, Bahrain and Oman dress ??? They dress how ever they want to and they are muslim. You guys are brainwashed by US media.
Blatant lie. No gay will be flaunting it in Gaza. Please.
It liberal propaganda boosting the muslim religion as a do-no-evil, diverse and culturally advanced society.
+TRAILERSPOT it's just regressive morons, who happen to make up a lot of the left, ignorantly defending this shit religion for the sake of multiculturalism.
A professional Taqyia liar.
Most Muslim apologist lie make up fake facts
Muslim apologetics is real. Reza is their deity, this woman is one of many disciples.
6 years ago, when Dems and Repubs got along so much better 😂
This broad wouldn't know the difference between a Catholic, Methodist, Episcopalian, Lutheran etc etc etc so what's the difference if he doesn't know the difference of Muslim sects.
And what's the name of that gay bar in Gaza....Choppurheadoff's?
Even I don't know the differences of all Christian religions and furthermore, *I don't care* 😀🤘
She’s a professional victim.
Also, saying your position is “I support free speech but only when I can harass you.”
Yah.. this comment needs all the upvotes.. They are all trained to use weapons of victimization and theres SOO many angles.
she also says what all muslims trying to defend their faith say " a few bad apples" Bill Maher said something once, "with that many bad apples there must be something wrong with the orchard"
The west is professional victim, how you gonna invade countries and wonder why they hate you😂😂
She was losing that argument and the desperation was clear by the end... I wouldn't be surprised if she went backstage afterwards and cried...
The guy who stabbed Salman Rushdie this morning had the same view about speeches as Rula Jebreal.
Thank god Salman is alive and recovered. I'm expecting him to be on Bill's show this week given he has a book coming out. islam a digusting ideology and the fact that most leftists left it drives me crazy
"If I don't say what you want me to say, then I'm a bigot" I wish that statement was shown on a larger scale.
Yes
She is from middle east, no clue what free speech is.
Charles Hua Iooks like you even worse then her.
Do you ?
Middle eastern free speech means you are free to support Islamic teachings. The rest of free speech will be met with shrieking fear and murder. See...free🤦🏼♂️
Vajrahaha Shunyata
That’s not true!! There’s a different between free speech and fighting words. If you want to curse Muslims believe you should be scared, the same thing if I cursed you. But if you feel something is not right and speak about it with respect and evidence, you are very welcome to do so.
And should stay there. Why do they believe they can come to a foreign country and teach people there what to think and what to say about islam?
Thx Bill … the denial she holds onto is astounding ..
As an ex muslim we can't live if we eat in the month of fasting but the lady thinks they can be guy here oh and live!!😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Impossible to have a debate with her, if she doesn''t stop talking...
Mauricio Villamil exactly the advice you should give the host of that show.
Lol nice Clint Eastwood pic
She had to stop talking during the eight times she was interrupted.
She also waves her finger in his face....very unpleasant...
Imagine being her husband.....
She will probably have claimed that they did not listen to her while she was constantly interrupting everyone.
She hates monologues, except her own
Same in Italy
I don't agree with her, but they were cutting her off. Everybody was cutting everyone off
She's hot though, I'd still smash, just with ear plugs...
Oh come on, she was being bullied by the host and the crowd. Refute what she said. Clearly, you can't.
"even the fool when keeping silence is counted as wise" The bible -
This chick did not get the memo, shes like a hardcore witch defending the Inquisition
"I'm a secular muslim"
The rest of the muslim world: What?
Bill Maher is the only liberal who actually stands up for liberal values... unlike others who just would never speak anything against the Islamic culture... and that’s why I love Bill Maher!
Prakhar Saxena i totally agree. if the liberal democrats were like this, theyd ACTUALLY be liberal democrats. I like bill maher alot, and on the other hand i like ben shapiro in many ways. And thats why my favorite guy with a political opinion is adam carolla because he a combination of the best of both parties but with a lot more logic
A foreigner telling US citizens what they can or not say. This is outrageous. If you don't agree invert the situation, a US citizen telling a Palestinian what they can or not say, in Palestine.
@Thomas Johnson
The liberals are a bunch of cowards when it comes to Islam. When attacking other groups like Christians, Mormons or Hindus they can be pretty much assured that they won't be dispatched by a murderous horde of assassins.
If these so called liberals fear criticizing an ideology which aims to silence its critics by the means of threats and intimidation, then I don't know why anyone would call them upholders of liberal values.
you should love him cuse he attakded muslims n islam tepcal hendu...pakistani army is hurting you.i herd
Hindu fanaticism is spreading from your writings ... It seems that Islamic Pakistan has spilled salt on your wounds ... and made you love anyone who violates Islam and Muslims
“I hate monologues” proceeds to give a monologue.
She's a terrorist apologist.
And in that monologue accuses the man with whom she is actually having a discussion/debate of not having discussions. Who cares, she’s pretty.
It's not a monologue.
It is not a monologue because the other guys can respond to what she is saying.
@@juha1428 Wouldn't she have to take a breath and stop talking for a split second for anyone to respond?
She's so beautiful that I almost pretend that I'm deaf
Yep. Talk about hard to take! As obnoxious as she is gorgeous. I'm reminded of the Sienfeld line- "But George, she's a Nazi ! "Yes- but she's a cute Nazi..."
I know, she is beautiful, but insufferable, on and on and on.
This lady said she hate monologue but she keeps talking like a stand up comedy monologue... LOL 😁🤣
5:04 "Well maybe not in Gaza." LOLOLOL I'm DEAD
Deva-Putra Wardiman better than her lying more
just to see how islam lies to the rest of the world: Homosexuality is punished by death, even in iran, but: It is admissible, by mullah decree, that it is perfectly ok to fuck with your brother- and/or father-in-law! What a fucking big facetious lie! Check it: It is the truth!!!
She should try to have this 'conversation' with muslim men
...in a mosque...dressed like that.
Anywhere in the world.
She is not stupid. She will at least wear burka.
@Agnostic atheist
Or she could do like the Swedish government and bow down to totalitarian, misogynist, regimes:
www.outono.net/elentir/2017/02/14/this-is-how-ministers-of-the-first-feminist-government-in-the-world-visited-iran/
Greetings from Swedistan, formerly known as Sweden.
mats jönsson it would be the biggest gang rape ever loll
Is this conversation taking place in a church? As for hijab, it is a choice. If this subject truly interests you, study it properly and then give out your views. It is so easy to see through how people talk about Islam yet their knowledge is so scanty.
Freakin this. She has been in the west so long , that apparently she forgot what Islam is really like.
She hates monologues but doesn’t let anybody else talk or disagree with her….
It’s a weak mind that says that your views are some kind of “phobia”
“I support free speech as long as you don’t disagree with me” 😝 😆 😂
Itd be funny if that weren't all liberals and leftists way of thinking today
diapersFTMFW11 the ones who actually think end up changing their point of view eventually. I know this for a fact since I was a hardcore left wing liberal growing up as a Middle Eastern Muslim woman. I am glad to be saved by grace now and know that Jesus died for me so I don’t have to worry about the world views. I also don’t have to kill anyone to make them believe in my views. 😅 I love how Muslims in the West have free speech to hate on and try to conform others to their way of thinking. Only issue with that is when you run across someone who makes sense you can’t argue with him or her. You have to ask yourself if I’m wrong, then what’s the correct answer and do your research. Research usually leads you to the truth if you’re willing to accept it. My family still doesn’t want to accept unfortunately but they can’t argue facts. They just turn to name calling and my Mom turns to praying to Allah for my soul, lol. Thankfully they’ve come a long way and have given up the idea of killing me. 😆
You are an idiot. Bill Maher he wasn't disagreeing, he was being biased and he has no freaking idea about the subject
Sure.... We don't have to agree, "BUT YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND, --- NO YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND". So is that the same equivalent? Agree and Understand?
Bill said your racist if you disagree did he see the ligth??
"Is there a gay bar in Gaza?" 🤣
Hate it when in a debate you have a controlled crowd with an applaud or laugh card. Makes it difficult to distinguish the right from the wrong. This scene just reminded me of the movie "Dont look up"
agreed
She's not an idiot. She's a liar. She knows perfectly well what she's doing and what sleazy tactics she's using.
And she disqualified herself by breaking "Godwin's Law".
Criticizing ideas is not the same thing as calling for the extermination of an entire people.
As an exmuslim from a muslim country , she’s absolutely a liar. All of them who say islam dosen’t oppress people in muslim countries are liars
She is an incredibly articulate debater. Bill got whooped on.
@@antonionunez415 No, she lied and disqualified herself with her violations of Godwin's Law and her use of other dishonest tactics. Shame on her. Shame.
I realize it's hard to accept, but the facts are what the are- no matter how much anyone may try to deny it. @@DeistPaladin
@@antonionunez415 What "facts"? Pointing and saying "Nazi, Nazi, Nazi!" isn't citing facts.
there is a thin blue line between being a passionate speaker and being a emotional wreck.
Lol
Bill Maher is awesome!!!!!
Thank u Bill Maher ❤
She is cunning, when she ran short of rational reply, she started playing victim card
I disagree. She and the Muslims have been the victim of Bill's hateful comments on Islam.
Fuck Islam seriously all sharia law countries are shitholes and oppressive with child molesters
@vashisth sharma we'll see in the afterlife
@@datiger39 no sharia law country has child molesters. Go check the stats before fucking around. Only saudi arabia has sharia law and it has one of the lowest crime rates in the world. If you commit a crime like that, you're done. Justice will be swift and painful for u
That's great if you think death for apostasy and committing adultery is acceptable.
“I love debates, I hate monologues” says that as she monologues and continues to monologue
consider her 12-minutes monologue on Italian television at Sanremo Music Festival (eurovision)
Right bro😂
No kidding. What a self conflicted state of mind...
She got interrupted a dozen times...
@@ostbear9687 Yeah you're right. They should've let her go on talking for the rest of the show.
Good job, Maher!
I've been watching this woman for years and have NEVER been able to follow her. She deflects, misdirects, and as Maher pointed out, engages in false equivalencies.
Because she defends the indefensible and those tactics are all she has.
Bill is an oldschool liberal aka: by today's standards: Not liberal enough for liberals.
JD Wight Sorry boy,today's human speaks what he experiences rather than believing a God books word.😥
www.faithfreedom.org/the-challenge-2/
so true.
JD Wight
Jimmy Dore is an old school liberal and the mainstream media hates him
American liberals are basically slightly left leaning centrists with some ridiculous ideas... Like, they think that properly working social Democracies are "socialist" and don't want that, but they're GLADLY gonna call anyone who doesn't believe in 98 genders Hitler.
She’s absolutely lying about Gaza.
Well she was correct in the sense that you can literally be gay and in that location. You just can't come out about it or express yourself or let anybody else know
Its okay to lie in islam. It is in fact a requirement. They even have a holy name for it.
@@stingray4980 You are right. It's called "taqiyya" where lying is sanctioned and/or required by allah if it is to promote islam.
They lie about everything
How can you tell a scumlim is lying?
It's when they start talking.
"If free speech is only speech you like - it's not free speech"
"Even Reza Aslan said, I'm not a bigot"
Sounds alot like "I have black friends, so I'm not racist"
this women is just straight up lying to make a false point
That's a scumlim alright.
Is it possible to reform Islam without subtracting some parts of the quoran and hadiths.
It ceases to be Islam and totally mocks the religion.
Y will the liberal Muslims practise and believe only parts of the Quran.
Y do these non violent Muslims speak up when these violence are done.
The percentage if calculated for each country amounts to several millions.
Matt Yes sir she’s Muslim and her Koran says to lie to Christians she’s doing an excellent job of lying
@george scott That's called taqiya
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taqiya
woman
She's pretty, she's articulate, but she's a rigid, intolerant ideologue. She keeps interrupting, she won't listen, she does not know how to have an exchange of views, or a debate. Its her way, or the highway, and the facts be damned. All passion, and no wisdom.
It's not a debate when you have a bias audience clapping for BS
@@CVLFMG view the video again. They also applauded her. check 1:54 and again at 3:53
@@FandensOldemoder applaud in itself is not a measure of bias, it's the ridiculous things that are applauded which expose the bias of the audience so I don't know what point you're trying to make
That’s the average woman my man
@@Doug7RM
" my man" who's your man ? You're gay