If You Don't Recognize A Trans Person's Voice It's A Hate Crime
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"Non-crime hate incident" should send chills down everyone's spine
Notice it's _perceived_ prejudice too. All someone has to say is that was discrimination and it goes down as a "hate incident". As an American I've always had respect for the UK but they are fucking up right now.
@@BiggieTrismegistusI promise you, most of us are 100% against it and despair for our countries.
And even though it's a non crime, it still goes on your criminal record history and the police isv not even required to inform you if you get one logged against you
It's scary af tbh. You could say something to one of these ppl not meaning anything by it but if they take it as an offense, you're fuct. There's no such thing a a hate crime. No crimes should be taken more seriously because they were against a certain race or sex, etc.
@@yourmom69179 100% It's utterly dystopian.
As a "cis" female person who's been called "sir" on the phone all my damn life, I gotta say to our British friend--Get a life, Sis. The fact that you think this is oppression only serves to highlight the fact that you don't know what oppression is.
Exactly, it's just another privileged person. Honestly, the world never truly sees us how we see ourselves. So trans people so heavily depending their mental health and well-being on how they are perceived by society is ridiculous. However, they do it. They need to learn to be happy with themselves and how they see themselves. Instead of depending on the world to make them happy because the world will ALWAYS be disappointing in that regard.
Me too & I just laugh 😂 or the drive - thru & see their faces, it's hilarious 😂😂
Facts
I'm a long haired man, and having worked in fast paced customer service positions, I can't tell you how many times I've gotten 'excuse me, ma'am, or miss'
as soon as they hear my voice, they blush, apologize- I laugh it off and help them with whatever.
No triggers. No tiktok meltdowns. Nothing but good vibes and smiles.
He's not a woman.
The people trying to force their ideas on others are not entitled to make liars out of other people. Life is not fair
And soon they'll have a boot forced where the sun don't shine
I don’t understand what you are trying to say?
@@Mark70609shes saying they'll get kicked in the ass 😂
When my kids said that’s not fair, I said life isn’t fair.
they do have the right to see the laws of their land enforced. And this creep is correct to file with his local LEO's, because laws have in fact been broken. And the best way to be rid of unjust laws is to enforce them.
The guy's voice sounds as deep as Darth Vader, calls to report fraud with a name _"Sophie",_ and wonders why the operator is suspicious?
❌️Explain to the Bank caller the reason your voice doesn't sound like a Sophie
✅️ Play the Victim
You cannot force people to accept your lifestyle. Not everybody going like you for your color, race, gender etc and it's okay, life goes on. If these trans people were so happy with their lifestyle you wouldn't care about having everybody acceptance.
Facts
Exactly
If your happiness and well being relies on the complete and total acceptance and empathy of literally everyone in your life, including people who don't even know you, then congratulations. That's a mental illness.
But... let's be real here. This was never about inclusivity. This is about control and feeding narcissism. This is about bullying people to fuel ego. This is about being an insufferable and entitled asshole.
Case in point, I've seen so many videos of someone going off about being misgendered. They aren't traumatized. Most of them are grinning ear to ear and manic with excitement, elated that they get to be a victim and try fuck up someone's life, and I'm tired of people pretending this isn't the case.
A lot of people who claim isims are just insufferable
Thats a really good point. Its one thing to try and change laws or to try and change the way the world does business...but it would seem that some transgender people, want to change the world one person at a time. And that is just dumb.
_"Perceived_ prejudice" Well that's half the problem right there...
That's how the UK's "hate crime" statistics work too. If you're the victim of a crime and you say it was a hate crime it is. Even if it's something like car theft where the person doing the stealing most likely has no idea whose car they're taking. If you think your car was taken because you're Pakistani or whatever then it was taken because you're Pakistani.
He doesn't look like a "Sophie", he sure as shit doesn't sound like a "Sophie." Calling that situation a hate crime is a slap in the face (pun intended) to people who have experienced ACTUAL hate crimes.
Sophie should have just picked a name that could go either way. Less confusion.
@@Mishalace And maybe work harder on looking and sounding * just * a little feminine, too?
@@och70
That ship's been nuked and rotting in the ocean 40 years ago
The problem is that it's the UK. The UK has more than bent over backwards to accommodate trans people, it's bent over so far that it's done a 720 degree spin. The people in power are so terrified of being accused of allowing any sort of "bigotry", "hate crime", etc to sink in that they'll literally ignore crimes perpetrated by minorities, because arresting the people doing it would make them seem "racist" or "phobic". They've had police officers show up to peoples' houses based on liking a twitter or facebook post. Not making the post themselves, just UPVOTING IT got them a visit from the police.
The UK has become a laughingstock. Even more so than what's happening in the US.
"Sophie"
Why do they always pick the same names?
I'm still in amazement at the fact that Leon's brain is able to function properly with all the brain cells he's losing per day whenever he covers nonsense like this.
Has to be tasking ❤❤❤
Appearance has always been part of security. ALWAYS!
He's a dude who wants to be a woman and he's complaining that life isn't easy? OK chief.
Imagine if he got period once a month 🤣🤣🤣 now that's unfair 🤣🤣🤣
@@lookingglass9966🤣🤣🤣
@@lookingglass9966 If that actually happened, trans "women" would be a very rare thing. Those cramps don't mess around.
@@evage99 no they do not, nor does menopause 😳
@@evage99rolling, crying, throwing up, can't even walk, can't even eat or nothing. A lotta them wouldn't stand a day with them cramps fr
Stuff like this is a testament to the art of makeup application. Its a skill developed over many years. 50+ year old men just starting to wear makeup are hilarious and gross.
Clown 🤡 college may have helped him 😂😂😂
There are transwomen who actually look feminine and are quite impossible to recognize as trans.
This one isn't it 😂
The brows and make up just don't add up.
@@puraLusa no, but he pulled the Trans Ozzy Osbourne off 🤣🤣
@@lookingglass9966 did he? Cause that one actually looks feminine, it has an effort in appearance. This one is just off, not feminine at all.
@@puraLusayou mean men? Theres no such thing as a "trans" woman.
You went to the bank.... That's like a step up from the DMV. You're not getting five star service is what I'm saying. Also think of it from their perspective. If someone who sounds like a man is attempting to get a hold of an account of someone seemingly named as a woman and is passing all the security questions. That means one of two things. Either a it's an ex-lover attempting to get a hold of Sophie's account in order to wreak havoc on her life. Or b a trans person who just needs their account to be sorted. They're going to make you go through the extra steps because if it turned out to be a then they'd look like an ass now wouldn't they?
Wonder if he stole the pen 🤣🤣
Worked for abby bank fraud department. The questions are standart and an employee can't have an opinion or be creative. But it's in the protocol to pretend always that u need one or more questions - the idea is for the customer not to know how many protocol questions there are or why for obvious security reasons of the sistem itself. Even taking extra time or giving up info too fast can garantee u 3 extra questions in between the, "how is the weather" to confuse u of the total number of questions.
Banks are very very painfully burocratic by law and by internal policy.
What happens when idiots like this get policies changed or something and scammer rajesh from India calls up and says to the bank "its me Sophie, I need 20 grand sent to my new indian bank account please" and the person on the phone has been told if they discriminate they get fired? "Sure thing Sophie we will send that right away hope things are lovely in Bangladesh" 😂 I could laugh but it opens a can of worms we would rather stay shut
This is exactly why im happy people call me transphobic. Its a badge of honor these days
Same here, I couldn't possibly care less.
I think we are in a new age where things lost meaning.
We all called phobes of some kind to the point the real phobes are delighted to be unrecognized in society.
If it isn't some sort of phobe it's fascist. If it isn't fascist it's something else.
I call it the age of name calling that at this point it's just a hobby 😂
Fr, I don't support it but won't bully and harass them.
@@puraLusa My favorite is how, when questioned, they can't give a straight answer. Often siting that they can run circles around the subject, but it turns out that's only because they're using circular logic.
@@MechbossBoogie which is pretty weird. I'm in a very progressive country and none of that was an issue up until recently cause everyone knew that some nominal people in society would change gender on papper and appearence and it was even financed by the universal health care that we have.
And nobody really cared specially cause it was nominal numbers and we had/ have bigger issues to deal with 🤷♀️
So HE wants to place other people at risk for HIS own selfish desires. Got it. 🤦🏻♀️
For someone that works in the financial industry I'm surprised the FTC hasn't compromised identity validation yet because of hurt feelings.
Shim-shim Sherry.
Victimhood is an absolute drug and these people are hopeless addicts
I dont understand why these people do things like this. All it does is make people actively go against their cause, and rightfully so. You make rules for YOUR life, not mine. Treat me with kindness and respect and I will reciprocate that. Demand me to think exactly like you do and then play the victim, i will hurt you feelings.
Attention grabbing, that's all, or to be Drama Queens 👑
Yes even the lgb want to separate from them
I wasn't a phobic till they started ramming it down my throat.. sounded wrong but you understand..
this is a video of a single person, i doubt every single person who is trans is like this
Okay, so since even air at this point is a hate crime..
I don't give af.
Guess I'm a proud phobe
If you genuinely take social media videos that are cherry picked out of peoples asshole seriously and then say you're a phobe because of it, then thats js pathetic
Bruh, I'm a biological female who constantly gets called "Sir" on the phone due to my low/deep voice; and I'm sorry for those who gets easily offended by it, they need to grow up and politely correct them. If they're tired of being called the wrong pronouns, on the phone, maybe they need to get surgery to fix their vocal cords, it's a thing! And if you're trans, INFORM THE PEOPLE ON THE PHONE THAT YOU'RE A TRANSPERSON, it's not that hard to politely correct someone without getting offended! People really need to stop acting like random people can read minds or knows you by heart!
If you have a low voice, the person on the phone will assume that you're a man; if you have a high voice, they will assume that you're a woman (or sometimes a young boy)! And for those who don't know, when you speak to somebody or record your voice on a device, it makes your voice sound completely different than your natural tone. Try recording your voice and listen for yourself.
yapping and yapping as if youre trans, if youre cis then why put your own experience into this
So, they're upset that someone involved in their account was hesitant to say "Yes, male sounding person, I believe you're Sophie."
Especially since the bank account was already having fraudulent transactions connected with it, they're going to be extra cautious when someone who sounds like a "Terry" is claiming their name is "Sophie" is on the phone talking about the account.
If it went that way he'd be making a video about how his bank has lax security.
@@bannedtwice7767You can never win with those people.
@@bannedtwice7767 Nah, he'd be making a video about how getting called Ma'am gave him a boner I mean gender euphoria. You have to remember how deeply perverse or deluded (I don't care why they do it, there is always a screw loose) these blokes are. If someone calls him Ma'am on the phone, he'd genuinely believe that the employee acknowledges him as female.
I might be wrong, but given from what I've seen online, it's not implausible.
My friend works at that branch of Santander.... I will try to get you guys and girls some more gossip on the situation :)
So turns out my friend was the one who spoke to the person hahahaha
These people are "fighting for rights", not realizing they are burning through all of our shared rights - including theirs
They already have rights. What kind of brain damage do they got?
I have met many like this and all they want is higher treatment
Trans clowns like this are the useful idiots being used to strip away all our rights. 100% agreed.
@@MortCodesWeb if higher treatment is considered not being killed and not wanting laws being made that could end your entire existance then idk man, same here lol
He wants to play make believe, fine. We don't have to play along.
ABSOLUTELY agree. NOT a hate crime. I've had this problem as a biological female. I was breast feeding, and this woman called me sir. I have a naturally deep monotone voice. I just made a funny by saying, "I don't think the baby on my boob is getting milk from a sir, ma'am." She laughed, I laughed. No harm. Got called sir again, she corrected herself and laughed again. I know my voice is deep, why would I get upset every time.
Had a very tall girl in my class with the deepest voice (skinny build also, so no real breasts showing etc) and obviously, if you dont look at her, you'd think ur talking to a burly dude. We never really talked but had to work together on a project once and she deadass mocked me for not having as deep of a voice as her haha xD
Thats one way to handle the situation. You cant warp to world to fit your narrative, you can however let it go and accept thats how it is.
The thing I've noticed that really differentiates men's voices from women's isn't necessarily the pitch but nasal resonance. Women's voices are generally more nasally than men's. You know how some men just sound gay? It's that their voices have more nasal resonance than you're used to hearing.
(That's actually something I wish someone would study: why do gay men often have more nasally voices than straight men?)
The thing is, YOU ARENT A MAN, this guy clearly is. So when someone refers to you as a man, they are simply incorrect, evict cannot he said for the man in the video. And he wants the entire world to bend to his will and play along or else he will snitch to the cops. And if you noticed, the police told this guy to “report a non-crime hate incident” which is where the British police keep records of LEGAL SPEECH AND EXPRESSION that someone found offensive. So, the UK police is now policing legal speech, they show up to your home to say, and I quote, “you need to check your thinking”. Can you even imagine? The police coming to your home, threatening you with their authority, BECAUSE YOU DID NOT COMMIT A CRIME? Because you said something someone else did not like? What sheer blinding privilege that must be to exert the force of the state on people who say legal things that you do not like. If I was on the UK I would be reporting everyone in that system because the idea of “non-crime hate incidents” is such affront to human rights of freedom and expression, that it offends me to my very core. But something tells me the cops wouldn’t consider that a valid complaint.
@@BiggieTrismegistusIt's an affectation. There are more gay men who sound male (cause they are). Men who sound female have generally trained themself to sound that way, consciously or unconsciously. Everyone can train themself in a trait to an extent that it becomes automatic, like walking with shoulders back (unhunched), or walking in high heels - actions that are "normal" often take PRACTICE.
@@BiggieTrismegistus I am a straight man and I have a kind of nasally voice... And that including a few other factors has had people question me about my gender quite a few times...
... And its actually interesting that you bring that up, as despite STONEWALL UK denouncing John Inman, a Comedy Legend and openly Gay, for perpetuating the Gay Stereotype... It AMZING how many people who identify as LGBTQ+, Especially Trans individuals and usually American - Force that Nasally Sound...
So we are NOT supposed to stereotype, yet the community itself is Stereotyping itself!
I will say this as I have many times... I dont care if you are Trans, Gay, Lesbian, Alien, Trump Supporting Dickless Trans Lasagne... Cis, Straight, Black, White, Purple with Pink Polka Dots... Just be respectful... And understand that no matter who you are - YOU WILL EMBODY SOME STEREOTYPE SOMWEHERE! So getting upset over it is POINTLESS... Its not a hate crime... Its just a "Commonality!"
People need to stop throwing around serious words. They lose their meaning, and it makes it difficult for real victims of those words to talk about them.
That's correct as it helps the real transphobes to blend into society cause everyone is called transphobes.
It's the kid and the wolf story.
Besides, common sense, there are a lot of transwomen out there and they don't look like this person, they actually put in the effort like brow styling and make up artistry.
Desensitization
Fake victims are amongst the most evil people alive.
They fail to understand we don’t care. I don’t have to lie so you can feel better about your choices.
Little miss Sophie over here fails to realize that sometimes women can be mistaken for a man by how their voice sounds over a phone.
Or they can have a name that in some countries is used exclusively by the opposite sex, which can make it very confusing if you're overseas working with a local branch to get an issue sorted out and you happen to be in one of those countries. Know a family member who had that happened before.
@@internetzenmaster8952 Yes! Italian names are susceptible to that. 'Andrea' or 'Simone' are perfectly normal male names in Italy, in Germany you'd expect a female.
a hate crime ambassador! one of the benefits of being a "hate crime ambassador" is Public Liability Insurance to carry out your role - gotta love those Brits.
I live in Scotland and this whole island has gone to shit. You can actually be arrested if someone reports you to the Police for saying something to them that hurt their feelings, and to top it off the Police refuse to take reports of racism if it's directed at a white person. As an example a non white guy posted "ki** all white men" and that was allowed but a white guy posted a comment supporting Israel and was visited by the Police. It's also not counted as an actual hate crime but because it's not an actual crime the Police have started a list of what they call "non crime hate incidents" which will come up on your record in a background check even though it's not a crime. It's crazier than you think. The whole world has gone nuts, wish you all the best over there too.
He is the kind of person who would proudly have snitched out his own family to the Stasi. It's sickening to watch those pocket-sized tyrants.
I worked in Business Banking for this particular bank for over a year, they are pretty well known for their borderline paranoia when it comes to banking fraud/security checks, so I am not at all surprised someone failed security due to their voice not matching the profile, even during training I was advised, "when in doubt fail them, cause hurt feelings matter less than fraud"
Overall I worked in call centres for over a decade and I lost count of the number of calls I had that due to a terrible connection, I had no idea of the gender of the person on the other side of the call.
The above person was looking for a situation to cause a fuss over, cause no matter what the agent did they would have lost, if they willingly passed a person through security without being positive of their identity and fraudulent activity were to occur, it would most likely result in their termination.
That man has mental issues that need to be addressed by a professional.
I worked in a bank call center and yes, this is a thing that we were told. If the voice does not fit the possible gender then it could be a fraudster and shut it down immediately. People who are in this situation, when you make major changes in your life you need to inform businesses that you deal with on a regular basis. This is a security issue. The last time you were seen by the said company you were a man (or woman) but you transitioned into a different gender and didn't tell anyone. I know in my work center when we went through the ID process for a persons account there were places to make and read notes. This is something simple and yes I've seen notes like that. Usually, the notation was, Client has a Masculine (or feminine) voice. People need to stop blaming others and actually take responsibility for their own lives.
Ozzy's stutter has really improved.
Don't you dare drag Ozzy into this!
I just posted a comment that he looked like Ozzy, glad I'm not the only one 🤘
The bank was doing him a FAVOR and making sure no one fraudulently used his account.
What’s not a hate crime these days ?
Hating men/white people
Obvious discrimination against White people, oddly enough.
Hatred and violence against white people...
Picking your bottom and flicking it at men in drag maybe 🤔 🤭🤭
I hate you for disrespecting hate crimes.
I have a deep,voice for a woman and THIS woman NEVER gets offended. I have a deep voice for a woman
Us women are the ones that should be filing hate charges for the way that man is mocking us!
nb is mocking yu shawty, yu good
Absolutely. Trans rights trample women's rights
Funny how a kid wearing black facepaint outrages those far left assholes, but when it comes to womanhood - which is just another biologically innate thing like race - it's fine. Even if it's for the most depraved, fetishistic reasons.
I’d like to hear the actual phone call, because I honestly doubt it happened the way our brave activist claims it did.
Sometimes, when I am talking to customer service on the phone, I get mistaken for a girl. Know what I do in that situation? Absolutely nothing. I'm just ordering a pizza or trying to recover a lost password it's not that big a deal.
I have no time, patience, sympathy or respect for crazy people. It's a crazy guy, being enabled by crazy laws.
Agreed.
The bank was totally right in this situation. There could be someone who knows the answers to this person's security questions...voice doesn't match the new name...yeah I'd want my bank to pay attention to that! Who wouldn't!?! It's called get up, get dressed and go to the bank in person...simple as that.
When you punish people for hate, you become the worse hater.
Especially when it has nothing to do with hate.
Old card but let’s say it.
The Nazis also called themself the victim and also used that as an excuse to harass, control, exclude and be violent.
It's not even hate
@@Somero5115Nazis also created the Gold Star system to let others know who to hate on at first glance - sorta like that little website these so called tolerant victims created to let others know who to abuse online simply because they were playing a video game which most people wouldn’t have even known about if it weren’t for the website…
Y’know what else the Nazis did, they tried to tell the world why other people were the bad ones - sorta like how these tolerant people will scream at the top of their lungs that a person is every ism and phobe simply for disagreeing with them
that doesnt make any sense but alr
2:00 because they have to confirm who you are "sophie." Just like if they were checking an account for an adult man named Robert and someone who sounds like a 12 year old girl spoke. That raises alarm bells.
they wanna be treated like everyone else but also get special treatment. confusing.
by the way, a "non-crime-hate-incident" goes on your record and does affect you it will show up if a potential employer does a background check and can cost you a job its happened a few times all ready also because its not a criminal offence the police have no obligation/wont to notify you about it
👁 👁 wow.
My god. That's absolutely terrifying. How did we sleep walk into this?
tbh, I'd hire that person on the spot, since having a non-crime hate incident on your record seems to coincide with a) being incredibly based and b) not a disgusting crossdresser.
Reminder for those in the back: "LIFE IS NOT FAIR. THE WORLD IS NOT OBLIGATED TO VALIDATE YOUR EXISTENCE."
EDIT: 2:55 Sir can have unisex connotations. This is not a hate crime. This isn't even that vague 'microaggressions' term. THIS BARELY QUALIFIES AS A MINOR INCONVENIENCE!
How are we supposed to know who these people are? If they don't even know who they are.
if someone says "i am a woman" or "i am a man" that is how you can tell, also, remember! this is a video of one single person! "these people" means a group of people!
Who the hell put that guy's lipstick on? There's accentuating your natural lipline, and then there's just not knowing how to draw inside the lines.
Funny…… i am a man……born a male……was called “miss” on the phone…… LOL….. my voice isn’t that high….. I laughed it off….. It was NOT a hate crime…..
Monty Python comes to mind. Jeeze...I don't have much in the bank but I'm glad they have the security in place so I get to keep it. What if the bank had handed out the money improperly? The Halloween outfit might put them off a bit.
Imagine getting mad that your account security is being taken seriously
Hey bloke, the circus is over there bud.
"hate crime ambassador" there should be no such ambassador roles for any crime, especially something that shouldn't even be a crime.
Hate crime is thought crime and to call anything a hate crime is completely ridiculous.
That sounds like something the USSR or GDR would have had. That mf would have proudly snitched out his family to the Stasi, or in earlier times, the Gestapo.
They reported this as a hate crime? Unbelievable. It was an inconvenience that was sorted out. That's it. End of conversation.
Michael Scott: I am a victim of a hate crime.
Stanley Hudson: That's not what a hate crime is.
Michael Scott: Well, I hated it a lot, okay?
These people dont realise by doing all of this crap trying to get normal people in trouble because they look and sound like a man and the person behind the desk is only trying to do there job it will just make more and more people annoyed at them. Tho i still dont see how even with it in front of them how they can guarantee thats a sophie ?
At first I was going to give the transwoman the benefit of the doubt from the headline. However, seeing the video this person isn't even in the first step of the transition. They literally are a "dude in a dress" at this point in a way that any disgrunted boyfriend could manage without any effort. The bank would be in a lot more trouble if Sophie came in raging because the bank gave all her money to her disgrunted boyfriend. They prefer the much smaller risk of annoying a transwoman.
Leon is absolutely right. To the bank, this is an absolute stranger who needs to be verified.
Him*
call him for what he is. biology is not a costume.
It’s coming to a point where you can be charged with a hate crime because the supposed victim interrupted you as just thinking it. Sliding into the realm of thought crimes.
I deal with that sort of issue all the time (in reverse, since people always assume I’m female even on the phone), and I’m a cisgender male who just happens to have a naturally somewhat high pitched voice. It’s a thing that happens, they really need to chillax.
jeez, not everything is about you
It's perfectly sufficient to refer to yourself as just 'male'. 99.999999% of the population know that you're not a molecule, and don't need the cis- or trans-certifier (which is where those terms were stolen and twisted from - badly, if I may say so, as it's a horrible analogy to what they call cisgender and transgender).
Just a friendly reminder, it's not good to play their braindead language games. This is not meant as a personal attack or to offend you, it's merely a thought.
So long as stupidity is the national sport, you will never go hungry, Leon. Yet another good video. Thanks again.
Even in person that man would be perceived as a man. He does not look or sound feminine in the slightest. He's a man wearing a terrible woman cosplay.
How am I supposed to tell the difference between a trans woman and dude who happens to be wearing make up?
@@BiggieTrismegistusThere is no difference. Both are men. Period.
The most important part about learning to love yourself is not giving af what other people think or say about you. When you try to control that, you're the one with an issue. You're just another crybully. Haters will come and go. Literally everyone has to deal with all types of them at some point, on some level, in some way or another. Even this white guy who had his head stomped into a curb for being white in the wrong neighborhood. YOU have to live with yourself for the rest of your life. Smarten up and accept who you are and that most people won't care, and a minority of those will even hate you for it. It's inevitable no matter how much you try to police it. That only breeds more resentment...
A dude wearing lipstick isn't perceived as a woman. What a shocker.
It’s funny and sad at the same time. “THEY” have been lied to (by force) so long, they’re in an altered reality 🤪
I couldnt possibly care less at this point
The least he could do is pitch his voice up a notch. Or just do a gay man accent. He just sounds like an average British man.
Whine Whine whine... I'm so done with adult toddlers. They are ensuring that the rest of us are two steps from transphobic on STEROIDS.
imagine everything the UK police could do if they didn't waste their time with garbage like this. dude sounds like a grown man and tried to get a bank official in legal trouble because she was salty about it. like there was legit no hate, there was caution. you'd think someone of 40+ years of age would understand that.
*he
A dislike crime at most.
The entire issue is about fraudulent transactions. Part of fraud is a person not looking or sounding like the person linked to something. So if your complaint is about fraud. And the account says Sofie and woman, but you sound like Bill over the phone. Why in the actual hell. Would you think that they wouldn't be suspicious of YOU?!
SOB!!! His damn voice is deeper than mine. My ego just got shot to hell.
There's no such thing as "hate crime".
Think about it...
1. Who decides who has hate in their heart?
2. Where does it say in our bill of rights that being hateful is not lawful?
3. When has someone ever been hurt by another individual's hate alone?
4. People need hate to be a crime so they can justify their violent impulses as self-defense.
As a male with a raspy voice due to a partially paralyzed vocal chord, that gets called ma'am I don't get pissed though I am not mentally ill.
"some transactions are not up to code"
And some trans actions are not up to code, either.
Perceived gender and age is part of the security , my grandma made me call in her place because she did not understand and I was told I didn’t sound like a senior citizen so she had to confirm her identity and pass me the phone. Isn’t it a grave case of ageism ? Anyone could know your info and call , maybe get them to write down that you are Sophie who was known as John a few years ago.
That duck absolutely looks and sounds like a duck. Trouble is the British police have been ideologically captured and they love to record non crimes. As we’ve seen recently they’ve gone all in on selective policing.
Banks run on 5-15 times leverage. Meaning, a ~7% loss can wipe the bank out (makes you feel safe? 😂😂😂), which is why banks are insane about security.
Well, first: never expect or depend on validation from strangers. They will always disappoint you. If you actually know who you are and are comfortable with yourself, you won't need it anyway. And second: I think you all missed the most important part of what that person said. go back and listen.... it was 'percieved hate crime'. That means that you don't have to mean it, the other person only has to think you do. Anyone else getting 1984 Orwellian vibes right now?
My accounts been compromised but I’m upset they won’t believe it’s me!
Yeah because scammers never try to pretend to be the person.
All this shows me is that the bank uses common sense in their security procedures
Given that the account was compromised, he could well have been a man who had stolen all the information needed to pretend on the phone to be the woman. Could have been an ex-boyfriend, a thieving cousin, a co-worker.
I would think they would be glad the bank took extra precautions for their account.
Or they could just cancel your account and be done with it. It'd be a lot cheaper than trans awareness "training". Dude just puts on some lipstick and says he's a chick. 🙄🙄🙄🙄
I got hacked this year. My bank caught it. They tried to sound like a woman on the phone. New everything. This story hits home and this person needs to shut up and just do extra checks if this is what they want to do in life, sorry
“That’s not a hate crime”
“But I hated it” -Michael Scott
Oh I can tell. If you have a "changed" appearance but you don't sound like you look, I'll walk away
I wanted to talk to someone about their pronouns because their chaanging them, and instead of having a discussion they got upset and quit talking to me.
I guess they were just as delusional, because instead of making friends they put their identity first, and yet they dont know who they are in the first place
I would also put myself first, lmao. Talking to someone and making a whole discussion out of their pronouns would be pretty weird
It's crazy how some of these people want you to accept them when they themselves can't accept what they are.
Yea because switching your gender means you cannot accept who you are, see how dumb that sounds?
If I heard that voice on the phone, looking for information on an account under a woman's name, I'd damn well clock it for possible fraud too. So congrats to Santander on keeping their security tight.
It’s like that meme song
🎶Why you gotta be so rude, it’s not my fault you sound like a dude🎶
Jesus christ already....ENOUGH!
If you claim to be trans and make no effort to sound like the sex you want to be, I have a hard time believing you.
I'm 6'2" 250lbs, big beard and got called ma'am the other day.
My girl asked a question and the girl responded yes ma'am and I immediately asked a question and she responded yes ma'am. Freudian slip.
We all laughed about it and went about our day.
There were 3 of us kids, and I was the oldest at 4 yrs. If any of us acted up in public my Mom would turn us around and home we'd go, even if it was something she wanted to do. Thanks, Mom.
Over the phone you only hear a voice.
Dude looks straight out of a Monty Python sketch.
Literally sounds like the "dude" trying to steal "Sophie's" money.
John Carpenter needs to come out of retirement and make escape from the UK
Bagsy Me as Snake 🐍 Plissken. Boo-yah, London! 😂
"hate... crime.... ambassador!?" these people wanna be victims so goddamn bad. Bruh...
These are the same kind of people who would feel targeted and "in danger" if their trans status was on the bank's database, while feeling targeted and "in danger" cause their bank don't know that they're trans.
Bruh, as a trans person I worked very hard to pass. I did all such kinds of bullshit just to feel more comfortable with myself and in turn make those around me more comfortable with who I am cause they don't know what I am. What I'm trying to say is, you're not a victim if you're unwilling to tell people what you are or unwilling to train your voice.