Are DIY Box Fan Air Filters SAFE?

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  • @GanderFlight
    @GanderFlight  Před 11 měsíci +1

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  • @grnttplmr
    @grnttplmr Před 3 lety +40

    Best reason to put FILTER ON BACK is because you're filtering the air BEFORE the dust gets to the fan motor. If this was near a dust source that can build up (like saw dust) then the dust can not collect on the back of the motor because the filter collected the dust first.
    This reason alone is important enough to make it the preferred method.

  • @reneehughes5084
    @reneehughes5084 Před 3 lety +85

    Thanks for the video!
    The advantage to placing the filter on the back, is that the filter stops the usual build-up of dust and dirt on the fan blades (which .. over time, puts more drag on the blades which may heat the motor up a little with extra work and less airflow). Meanwhile, putting the filter on the front stops the dust/debris escaping, which slows the exit airflow a little and (admittedly, slightly) encourages the build up of dust on the blades and doesn't protect the motor. So for single filter setups, I'd recommend the back mounted filter, and you get the aesthetic benefits that are mentioned in the video and unobstructed access to any front-panel controls.
    As found in the video experiment... the amount of filtration should be (for all intents and purposes) identical if the fan speed and filters are the same. However, if the experiment ran for months until the filters were clogged and needed replacing... that story might be a little bit different.
    Taking it further.. two filters of differing types:
    A lot of wood workers, noticing the sawdust buildup accumulating in their workshops are putting filters on both the front and back of fans (Google/CZcams search: "DIY workshop air filter", and you'll get the idea). These usually involve two or more filters, with the typical air filter for the larger dust/particles/fibres on the back and another, 5 micron HEPA filter (or something similar) on the front. Naturally, this filters the air to a much higher quality, but also increases the cost of construction and ongoing maintenance. While you want a nice sealed "bottle neck" around the fan itself for efficient airflow, it's also better if you have a slightly larger filter than the fan on both sides as this reduces the "back pressure" the filters will place on the motor.
    If safety is your biggest concern, the best things you can do:
    1. Keep your house as clean as possible... the less dust your filters are exposed to, the longer they'll last, and airflow will be less restricted. Put simply, there's less to catch on fire if there's a problem, and it's a situation that's less likely to cause a fire too. :-)
    2. Clean and replace the filters regularly, (or as needed in times of low air quality). Clean any build up on the fan blades and suck any dust out of the motor with a vacuum.
    3. Electrical safety. If you're enclosing a fan inside a box, then having a dedicated "safety switch" which (depending on the type) is usually either a Ground Fault Circuit Interrupter (GFCI) or Residual Current Device (RCD). These devices create an automatic way to cut the power to the fan in the event of a fault. Differing laws and electrical systems are found in differing countries, but research how things are done in your relevant area or talk to your local qualified electrician and they'll give you appropriate advice. However, we can buy RCDs in Australia for around $20-30 in our nearest hardware store. Installation is easy. Plug the RCD into the wall, and then plug the fan into the RCD. Turn on the fan and make sure the switch trips the power by pushing the "Test" button, then hit the "Reset" button to turn the power back on.
    I hope this helps someone out there in these crazy times!

    • @GanderFlight
      @GanderFlight  Před 3 lety +6

      Thanks for the helpful and well thought out comments!

    • @zlancenyc
      @zlancenyc Před 2 lety +1

      Yeah, filter on the back is safer in the long run. Esp if used in a woodworking shop

    • @haydennillardthe3rd556
      @haydennillardthe3rd556 Před 2 lety +3

      Ya makes way more sense on the back nearly every fan ive had that failed was due to dust collecting on the motor and building up till it has to much resistance and fails. Also i never run it on max speed and the motor stays cool enough within spec.

    • @MrAnimal1971
      @MrAnimal1971 Před 2 lety +1

      Thank you for this information its what i was needing to know :)

    • @imperiallegionnaire6943
      @imperiallegionnaire6943 Před rokem +1

      If you put it on the front, the air won’t go through and it’ll start blowing out the back of the fan

  • @r3alfish
    @r3alfish Před 3 lety +112

    I'd like to see @Project Farm test this against some top rated air purifiers. 😲

    • @GanderFlight
      @GanderFlight  Před 3 lety +28

      What a great idea- I’ll go leave him a message!!!!

    • @she_sings_delightful_things
      @she_sings_delightful_things Před 3 lety +1

      Yes!

    • @rickfrank7934
      @rickfrank7934 Před 3 lety +1

      @@GanderFlight any update?

    • @GanderFlight
      @GanderFlight  Před 3 lety +12

      @@rickfrank7934 I left him a comment - but didn't hear anything - nor do I expect to. Maybe we'll see a video sometime. Head over and leave Todd a message too! Maybe if we get enough folks suggesting it he might indulge.

    • @ezrawaters6653
      @ezrawaters6653 Před 3 lety +2

      He has done a video on HVAC filters though: czcams.com/video/RkjRKIRva58/video.html

  • @steeltag
    @steeltag Před 3 lety +10

    well done Josh, we appreciate your efforts and time it took for these tests! I"m going to make a fan/filter combo now b/c of this!

  • @Rogers223
    @Rogers223 Před 3 lety +27

    Thank you for the effort put into this video, it’s greatly appreciated

  • @rahmanr112
    @rahmanr112 Před 3 lety +6

    appreciate your dedication and commitment to this experiment! Thanks!

  • @BishopEddie5443
    @BishopEddie5443 Před 5 měsíci

    Such a wonderful help for so many people. Love it!

  • @bfurailroad1104
    @bfurailroad1104 Před 3 lety +6

    Perty neat video Sir. You obviously put alot of time & effort into this project. Even the amount of time you spent on just the editing is outstanding. Good job!

  • @seppous
    @seppous Před 2 lety +1

    I love how straight to the point the video is. Thank you.

  • @chriscorcoran2288
    @chriscorcoran2288 Před 2 lety

    This is great. I was having that question, and you've done a great job answering.

  • @bunkyman8097
    @bunkyman8097 Před 11 dny

    Thak you Joshua for doing the research and work for us. I wondered about the motor heating up too.
    Now I know! I'm going to the store tomorrow and get a filter. Thanks again for doing the work for us

  • @tracywade4441
    @tracywade4441 Před 2 lety

    This was a lot of work for you, and very helpful to me. Thanks so much for sharing!

  • @tarvebenzie3296
    @tarvebenzie3296 Před 2 lety +53

    *Works great with **Fastly.Cool** , exactly as described. Love the fact that it can push, pull, or exchange air with the push of a button. The remote is a nice bonus too!*

    • @GanderFlight
      @GanderFlight  Před rokem +1

      Not sure what fastly cool is and your link just goes to a general amazon page.

  • @user-yf6by9di7i
    @user-yf6by9di7i Před 3 měsíci

    Great video. Deserves more views. I appreciate all the time and effort!

    • @GanderFlight
      @GanderFlight  Před 22 dny +1

      Much appreciated! Thanks for the comment

  • @rose77778888
    @rose77778888 Před rokem

    I did a search looking for the method, and safety of a box fan filter. Thank you

  • @zenos.5315
    @zenos.5315 Před rokem +1

    Thanks for all of your effort….much appreciated!

  • @jcsoriano3766
    @jcsoriano3766 Před 3 lety +2

    Hey Josh, great video! Thank you for taking your time to do this video. Thank you also for putting link for the J channel, really appreciate you. Take care!

  • @CinnamonWilson
    @CinnamonWilson Před 3 lety +4

    Lots of effort went into this video. Good job.

  • @she_sings_delightful_things

    Wow....thank you!! Appreciate the detailed info!

  • @blueandbanana
    @blueandbanana Před 2 lety

    Thank you! Love the popcorn smoker!

  • @mrdeliveryman111
    @mrdeliveryman111 Před 9 měsíci

    Thanks for this great video man

  • @labaker3477
    @labaker3477 Před 3 lety +3

    Thank you for that video. I just found out I could build this purifier and was wondering of the safety. Very useful 💖

  • @lauralong6695
    @lauralong6695 Před 2 lety

    Great job. Thanks a whole bunch for your work.

  • @R0b3rtH1ght0w3r
    @R0b3rtH1ght0w3r Před 2 lety

    I just bought a Lasko brand fan with a filter that goes in the back. I'm not as crafty as you, so it was $60 well spent. Thank you so much for the idea! Love your videos.

    • @GanderFlight
      @GanderFlight  Před 2 lety

      I think its awesome that they've started making a version with the filter holder - definitely looks more aesthetically pleasing than the DIY version.

  • @evac3928
    @evac3928 Před 2 lety +6

    I have been using this setup in my metalworking shop since 1989. Never had a problem. I just use a box fan, a filter, and a couple of bungee cords. The Walmart box fan has to be replaced about every decade. I always get the cheapest one. I wish I could find one of those old all metal box fans from the pre ‘80’s. Those things ran forever.

    • @GanderFlight
      @GanderFlight  Před 2 lety +1

      I think my dad still has on of those metal box fans in the garage - simple and effective and still going strong!

    • @theleequa
      @theleequa Před rokem +1

      I like your bungee cord idea. I don't feel like getting too fancy but I also don't want to deal with tape. This is the perfect solution and easy too! Glad I read your comment! :)

  • @crookedriverranchman
    @crookedriverranchman Před 2 lety

    Excellent video. Thanks

  • @kojjohn
    @kojjohn Před 2 lety

    Thanks for the work👍🏽

  • @jasonhsu4711
    @jasonhsu4711 Před rokem +4

    Great video! While the Corsi Rosenthal box seems better when it comes to performance, this single-filter version is MUCH more portable. I'm pleased to see that the fan motor didn't heat up that much. If you're really that concerned about this issue (or if you want to reduce the electricity usage or make the filter last longer), you can connect the filtered fan to an electrical timer and set it to automatically turn on and off every half hour.

  • @derrickferguson8274
    @derrickferguson8274 Před 3 lety

    Nicely detailed experiment.

  • @nathandingman6846
    @nathandingman6846 Před 3 lety +1

    I got a filtrete 1900 air filter on my box fan and it helped tremendously with my allergies!

  • @hickey4747
    @hickey4747 Před 2 lety

    Thanks for video. Very helpful

  • @stans5270
    @stans5270 Před 3 lety +1

    Thanks for the idea. Knowledge is power. You've made us powerful.
    I am going to try this with two modifications.

  • @Schrimpieman
    @Schrimpieman Před rokem +1

    Very nicely done review. Simple, straight-forward and informative. I think you put a nice balance between "scientific" results and real-world application. Important also, which many other experimenters tend to neglect, was the ambient temperature. ....you measured it (thanks).
    .
    Thanks for your efforts, thanks for sharing.

    • @GanderFlight
      @GanderFlight  Před rokem

      You are most welcome! Thank you for watching and taking the time to share your kind comments - hope you found some value in the information.

  • @matthewstover6789
    @matthewstover6789 Před 2 lety +5

    I’ve used this method while replacing my attic insulation in mid summer.
    Not only did it filter out the insulation particles it still dropped the attic temperature by 10 degrees.
    This works and I’m planning to use it to take some of the strain off of our home furnace. 👍👍

  • @jacklynmonroe3872
    @jacklynmonroe3872 Před 2 lety

    Great video . And very helpful . Thank you .

  • @fanguy247b9
    @fanguy247b9 Před rokem +1

    I remember in our high school wood working/ construction class my teacher had several of these spread around his classroom to help keep the wood dust down. It actually helped tremendously. He did have a homemade dust collector system he rigged up with pvc pipe and an old car wash vacuum cleaner he put outside he had attached to the various saws that would automatically kick on whenever the equipment was turned on. Our school district was too cheap for a true dust collector system and air filtration. Luckily the new clean air regulations in my state got him a much needed remodel for his classroom. He said that in 1996 the high school finally got modern hvac systems in the classrooms so most of the teachers were throwing their old box fans out he said that he , the metals teacher and the automotive teacher collected them and attached brackets to them to make filtered air machines for their classrooms. I always admired him for collecting things other people were throwing out. His philosophy was to reuse, renew, and recycle as much stuff as possible.

  • @jolox.
    @jolox. Před 2 lety

    This was a very well done video. I recently purchased some merv 13's and am looking forward to trying to build a couple filters. Thanks for the scientific testing video to demonstrate the heating question! I'm gong to thumbs up and subscribe to support your helpful work!

    • @GanderFlight
      @GanderFlight  Před 2 lety +1

      Thank you! Glad it was helpful.

    • @covidinfectedmonkeypox6775
      @covidinfectedmonkeypox6775 Před rokem +1

      If Merv 13 work with a box fan then they are not true merv rated filters those cheap box fans are not powerful enough to pull air through true merv 13 but you'll see for yourself maybe I'm wrong 😁

    • @jolox.
      @jolox. Před rokem

      @@covidinfectedmonkeypox6775 Ok I guess we'll see! They weren't cheap box fans. They were at least 15 bucks! I hope it sort of works to some degree? I'll try to give an update when I try it out!

  • @hons3543
    @hons3543 Před 3 lety +14

    Great video! I saw this idea, (same as yours), some months ago. The idea bounced around my head for a while and I decided to build one. One $18.00 Walmart fan and a 20"X 20" filter, the most expensive one Lowe's sells, taped it on securely and it has been running constantly for 6 months or so. The fan motor hasn't gone south but I change the filter every 2-2.5 months. That worked so well, I got another fan and filter and some duck tape. That one has been running for nearly 3 months. We have a HEPA filter in the bedroom due to my wife's allergies and my COPD. The fan filters do make a difference but I have no way of testing its efficiency.

  • @stevieb82
    @stevieb82 Před 3 lety

    This guy Rocks! Thanks for the research.

  • @TimTurner115
    @TimTurner115 Před 3 lety +13

    Great tip. I have a box fan with a filter on the back 7 micron filter in my woodshop . I turn it on at the end of the day to help clean the air of wood dust. I have it on a timer. It runs for 3 hours.

    • @GanderFlight
      @GanderFlight  Před 3 lety +4

      The timer is a great addition for an application like yours!

  • @RickyTikkiTavi77
    @RickyTikkiTavi77 Před 2 lety

    Thank you

  • @inthedark334
    @inthedark334 Před 2 lety

    Yep this weekend I'm going to go to the store and buy all the parts and start putting this into all my fans thank you so much

  • @ishouldbesleeping1354
    @ishouldbesleeping1354 Před 3 lety +1

    We use this setup in my sons’ room and it is good. In my room I use a Winnix air purifier with a HEPA filter and for allergies that works best but both are impressive and helpful. I feel better after seeing your video.

    • @GanderFlight
      @GanderFlight  Před 3 lety +1

      The white noise of the fan is a side benefit to aid in sleeping!

  • @laskatz3626
    @laskatz3626 Před 2 lety

    Thank you!

  • @debstayblessed9549
    @debstayblessed9549 Před 2 lety

    😁👍Great video. Thank u

  • @jhingbangayan762
    @jhingbangayan762 Před 3 lety

    I love your effort in this video👍👍❤️❤️

  • @brianthered
    @brianthered Před 3 lety

    Well done, thanks for going to all the trouble here.

  • @SchysCraftCo.
    @SchysCraftCo. Před 3 lety +2

    Awesome and very helpful video today keep it up my friend

  • @practicalguy973
    @practicalguy973 Před 3 lety +7

    Great testing! Good to know what the temps are! If people are worried about static pressure and strain on the motor they could get larger filters. I think you can get 20"x20"x2" which would double the filter surface area so more air will pass through. The larger the filter media the longer it lasts before clogging to so that is an advantage. I have that exact fan and been using it in a custom wooden box for 3 years. I made mine for a 20"x25"x5" filter which is 5x the surface area of a 20"x20"x1". I can run the fan on medium and get more airflow in the room compared to the smaller filter on high with all that extra surface area passing air. If you really want the motor to last long and quiet the fan down a little, I put a link to a video on balancing the box fan blade below. The bearings will have less stress on them and it will be less shaky when running but I use mine on medium speed so I'm already putting much less strain on mine so I never tried to balance the blades. czcams.com/video/moo95i_6QZs/video.html

    • @GanderFlight
      @GanderFlight  Před 2 lety +1

      Super helpful, thanks Practical Guy!

    • @pattip1413
      @pattip1413 Před rokem

      I just build a cube using four filters, the fan, and cardboard for the base. 13 merv 20x20 x2. Wow! Amazing filtration. Seems to be helping my COPD person.

    • @practicalguy973
      @practicalguy973 Před rokem

      @@pattip1413 That is a lot of filter surface area going with the 2" filters! Just slightly more than my 20"x25"x5". Sounds like its doing a great job for you and you'll need to change the filters less with that much filter dividing the air going through the box!

  • @katalytically
    @katalytically Před 8 měsíci

    Nice comparison.

  • @mwj5368
    @mwj5368 Před 3 měsíci

    I bought about a $50 Lasko fan where you clip a 1 inch thick filter on the back, so I suppose since a fan company does it that way they must have tested it in their development phases. Thanks for a great video!

    • @GanderFlight
      @GanderFlight  Před 3 měsíci

      I've since gotten one of those Air Flex versions too and really like them.

  • @TheLongjohntim
    @TheLongjohntim Před 2 lety

    I truly want to thank you My husband wh is 81 early emphysema asthma and we have cats we wee facing the hard reality that we might have to get rid of the cats I was exploring HEPA filters and found your video. I was thinking of making my own and you showed me that I'm not crazy. Again Thank you!

  • @Davethreshold
    @Davethreshold Před rokem

    THANK YOU for the deep dive on this! I just ordered a $160 air filter, and am having 2nd thoughts. I did this a few years ago, and I noticed one thing: When you put the filter on the front, fan blowing at it, a whole bunch of air bounces right back at you from the rear!

    • @GanderFlight
      @GanderFlight  Před 11 měsíci +1

      Definitely better to put the filter on the back, and you can seal the edges with painters tape and place a shroud on the front to decrease backflow - check out the diagrams here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corsi%E2%80%93Rosenthal_Box

    • @Davethreshold
      @Davethreshold Před 11 měsíci

      @@GanderFlight Cool! That would really kick some ass. LOL If I do it again, I'll do that. Thank you.

  • @OcRefrigeration
    @OcRefrigeration Před 3 lety +1

    Great Video ! if u Want to Add a Measure of Safety and don't want a Paper filter Slammed up tight against a hot motor. Space it away from the Rear of the Fan unit by a Few inches using Sheet metal and a Hvac Filter Rack.

  • @bobfenz3184
    @bobfenz3184 Před 2 lety +3

    Nice experiment. I have been using this system to remove dust from my garage work area when I have been doing wood work. I only run the fan with the filter for maybe several hours during and after I generate dust. I have always put the filter on the back (intake side) and it certainly clears the dust from the air. Also tried it in the house during pollen season and it also seems to work. The problem is that the fan makes noise and my wife doesn’t like it. Been using Honeywell or 3M brands both rated for dust and dander I get at Home Depot. No MERV rating provided on the packaging.

    • @GanderFlight
      @GanderFlight  Před 2 lety +1

      Yeah Home Depot made up their own rating system. Merv 13 is equivalent to FPR 10

  • @kyle2kmaxima
    @kyle2kmaxima Před 3 lety

    thanks for doing this...

  • @ronyerke9250
    @ronyerke9250 Před 3 lety +3

    1 advantage to having the filter on the inlet (back) side is the same reason furnaces are built that way: it keeps the motor windings cleaner which reduces fire/smolder hazards from dust build-up.

  • @lynskyrd
    @lynskyrd Před 5 měsíci

    this is a good enough test. You covered enough bases to prove your point. Been using box fan filters for over a year now. MERV 5 and now MERV 8 filters. I own a cat and a couple of my grandkids have cat allergies- the box fan filtering makes a HUGE difference... according to them. Project Farm would be proud :)

  • @graveyj2000
    @graveyj2000 Před rokem

    Well, I'm seeing this 2 years after it was made, but I think I am going to try using some furnace filter media. Won't do what the higer merv rating ones will do, but I have a high air flow barrel fan, and I can basically just cut a piece and drop it on the back-the fan will suck it tight. We'll see what happens!
    Thanks for the video!

  • @mrl7514
    @mrl7514 Před 2 lety +1

    Great video, well articulated and practical. It almost made me want to huff. On another note, I plan to do the same but with carbon filters in hopes to get smell out of a small room. Those box fans are awesome and about a quarter of the price of others.

    • @GanderFlight
      @GanderFlight  Před 2 lety

      Good plan! The carbon filters should definitely help grab some of the odors.

  • @siulunglee
    @siulunglee Před 3 lety +5

    Thanks for the experiment. I have put a wifi switch with cloud timer in it. It is a little bit fancier. So, every two hours and stop for an hour (whatever you like for cool down the fan) around $10 to $15. But when your son's nasal allergy get improve much better, that makes me starts to make one for every room.

    • @GanderFlight
      @GanderFlight  Před 3 lety

      I like the additional customization! You could also do that with a standard outlet timer as well!

    • @awesomedave8484
      @awesomedave8484 Před 3 lety

      What’s a cloud timer? I have WiFi switches and receptacles but it’s all managed in the app nothing on the cloud.

    • @siulunglee
      @siulunglee Před 3 lety

      Cloud just mean that the app store your timer setting in a server somewhere we don't know. Actually not quite knowing that my wifi switch timer info on the cloud or in the app or in the switch itself.

    • @siulunglee
      @siulunglee Před 3 lety +1

      Run it for 4 months now, and I put have put a UV light and hide behind the filter against the wall for extra sanitizing and no direct UV light exposure to me. But that is really good for cleaning the mold (even covid) in the air.

    • @infinit3isha
      @infinit3isha Před rokem

      ​@@siulungleecan you make a video on the setup?

  • @ronberg8141
    @ronberg8141 Před 2 lety +1

    Great video thanks. Actually I just put my filter up against the rear of the fan and it gets drawn tight against the fan without using tape etc. Not perfect air tight fit but seems to work.

    • @GanderFlight
      @GanderFlight  Před 2 lety +1

      Yes that definitely works! Just causes issues when you turn the fan on and off everyday.

  • @deleaptealeaf8935
    @deleaptealeaf8935 Před 3 lety +14

    Use a 2 inch filter to reduce the load on the motor (20 x 20 x 2). Or even go up to 4 or 5 inches if available.
    Another option is to get 4 filters and make a cube. The 5th side of the cube would be a piece of cardboard. This will be the bottom. And the 6th side will be the box fan. This setup makes the filtering more efficient. The fan will be able to move more air due to the lower resistance.

    • @GanderFlight
      @GanderFlight  Před 3 lety +2

      True enough. This projects goal was to be quick, small footprint, and inexpensive.

    • @uawsux
      @uawsux Před 2 lety +2

      he has been watching ask this Old House I just watched it

    • @genekane9517
      @genekane9517 Před rokem +1

      I saw the TOH video, and was going to build the cube (fan is here, filters will be here tomorrow), but my gf isn't keen on seeing the size of it. I tried to explain the health benefits to her, but got the obligatory blank stare. lol
      I may try this first, and just add a 2nd filter behind the fan, for the first try. The cube unit definitely moves more air, though, and is substantially better on the resistance end.

    • @pattip1413
      @pattip1413 Před rokem +1

      YES! I made this cube last night and wow what a huge difference!

    • @pattip1413
      @pattip1413 Před rokem +1

      @@genekane9517 go for the cube. Lol. She’ll thank you later.

  • @RobbsHomemadeLife
    @RobbsHomemadeLife Před 3 lety +5

    I agree with you, they last a long time and can run for years with a filter. My little dog liked to sleep in from of my box fan air filter. It was kept on 24 hours a day for over 3 years. The fan still works fine. I made a video of my little wooden clamp with a magnet and handle I made to attach the filter. "DIY $6 Magnetic Dust Fan Filter air cleaner for Home & Shop"

    • @GanderFlight
      @GanderFlight  Před 3 lety

      Watched the video - cool idea using the magnet!

  • @levijessegonzalez3629
    @levijessegonzalez3629 Před 3 lety +2

    Great video. I am looking for a CHARCOAL air filter because my main concern is VOCs (super small particles like fire retardants in rugs. formaldehyde in mattresses. inorganic clothing ink dyes off gassing etc)
    Will these filters work? Or is the a 2in1 hepa / charcoal filter? thanks

    • @GanderFlight
      @GanderFlight  Před 3 lety +1

      I do not know the answer to your question, you'll need to do some further research yourself.

  • @patsykhan9679
    @patsykhan9679 Před 3 lety

    Blessings son for yur great effort to help people

  • @VengeanceFalls
    @VengeanceFalls Před 3 lety

    Awesome video man

  • @evletagruber3694
    @evletagruber3694 Před 5 měsíci

    @GanderFlight Thank you, you answered my questions.

  • @ScooterDano
    @ScooterDano Před rokem

    Been using a similar setup for years and haven't burned the house down yet. Like the idea of the C channels to hold the filter. I'll have to do that some day.

  • @Socialmilliondave
    @Socialmilliondave Před 3 lety +2

    Thorough video ! Great job, will get a Merv 13 filter .

  • @mel2000
    @mel2000 Před 2 lety

    Excellent and clearly detailed demo video. Can you give an estimate of how often the filter needs to be changed? What are you using to attach the filter to the fan?

    • @GanderFlight
      @GanderFlight  Před 2 lety

      I change them every 8 weeks - just depends on the time of year - how much pollen or dust is in the air - change them as often as you change your whole house filter. You can check out the build video here: czcams.com/video/9vJk5BM8xUo/video.html

  • @abadabababadaba4774
    @abadabababadaba4774 Před 2 lety

    Hello. Thank for the video. I was wondering what box fans you use as I noticed you were just sliding the filters on and off?

    • @GanderFlight
      @GanderFlight  Před 2 lety +1

      I made it - you can check out how here: czcams.com/video/9vJk5BM8xUo/video.html
      Additionally, some companies are now making them with built in air filter holders: amzn.to/2XKlWXB

    • @abadabababadaba4774
      @abadabababadaba4774 Před 2 lety

      @@GanderFlight Thank you for your response 🙂

  • @aquabat104
    @aquabat104 Před 2 lety

    cool experiment

  • @gladysma308
    @gladysma308 Před rokem

    Thank you for the video. The flex model with inserted filter is not yet available in Canada.
    4:50 motor temp test.
    NB: some comments suggest 4 in or 5 inch wide filter.

  • @DougsterCanada1
    @DougsterCanada1 Před 2 lety

    Just a thought slightly related to this video. I have bought, and I do recommend those laser thermometers, they are quite handy. If you get one, be sure to read the instructions as different surfaces will need different settings.

    • @GanderFlight
      @GanderFlight  Před 2 lety

      Yes - and different distances from the surface to be accurate

  • @chachavessel
    @chachavessel Před 2 lety

    THIS is how you do a Box Fan Filter video! TY. wtg.

  • @crystalkardulis9182
    @crystalkardulis9182 Před 3 lety +1

    Thank you so much for sharing you helped me out a lot because I'm going to fix the income I cannot afford a five billion dollar air filter but I can swing and manage the swing of box filter thank you so much for your help you and your family continue to stay safe many blessings to you all Much Love-n-Peace !

  • @scottmorris4914
    @scottmorris4914 Před 3 lety +2

    If there are concerns about constraining the air flow and burning out the motor, create a surface area with more surface area, such as a Cube of filters, using 5 filters.

  • @amandah7096
    @amandah7096 Před 3 lety +1

    hi thanks for the great idea. I just ordered two fans. Can you please tell me which are the two best affordable filters that I should consider purchasing for this. Please and thank you

    • @GanderFlight
      @GanderFlight  Před 3 lety +3

      Anything that is 20x20x1 MERV 13 rated or equivalent. There is a link in the description for a 4 pack on amazon - but you can find these at any home improvement store or big box store too.

    • @amandah7096
      @amandah7096 Před 3 lety

      @@GanderFlight thank you

  • @jenbiensur
    @jenbiensur Před 3 lety +3

    Thank you for the comparisons! I live over a highway, so I always tape a filter (rated for "smog" as well as the other categories) against my window fans, with the idea that something is better than nothing! I notice a difference, and especially think about all of the dark dirt accumulating on the filter, which is probably mostly smog and at least that portion of it didn't make it to my lungs! Your experiments made me wonder if there is a way to enhance the filtration in a window air conditioner. Do you have any ideas, or do you think taping a good filter (that has proven to allow good airflow with a fan) to the outside of the front intake of the a/c would do some extra filtering and be worth it? (I might try it and report back to you if I see any pattern of dust/dirt accumulation on the filter, and if the normal filter a quarter inch away from it inside the machine ends up needing fewer cleanings.) (I'll also let you know if it seems to make the unit labor or get too hot or anything.)

    • @GanderFlight
      @GanderFlight  Před 3 lety

      Experiment and let me know - I'm not sure how that will affect the air conditioner unit.

  • @AndrewHunterMusic
    @AndrewHunterMusic Před rokem

    Wow, there really is everything on the internet. well done. I just put one of these together. the possibility of the motor overheating occurred to me and i thought a solution might be to cut a round hole in the filter to allow unrestricted/unfiltered airflow into the rear motor vents. Seems like this might be unnecessary. The fan has 3 speeds, i’ll likely run it on the lowest, which seems to push plenty of air. i figure the motor “strain” on speed 1 with a filter is more or less equivalent to fan on speed 3 with no filter.

    • @GanderFlight
      @GanderFlight  Před rokem

      And you'll notice a definite airflow difference when you change out a dirty filter for a clean one too. We typically leave them on medium, sometimes high, and haven't had any issues.

  • @leonachilton9331
    @leonachilton9331 Před 8 měsíci

    Forest fire smoke is irritating tonight. I just put my kit together. I already feel a difference. 👍🏼👍🏼

  • @tommeyers974
    @tommeyers974 Před 16 dny

    I use a Merv 5 on the back as a pre-filter and a merv 11 on the front as a final stage.

  • @sunspot42
    @sunspot42 Před 3 lety +2

    The problem isn't so much the fan overheating when the filters are fresh - it becomes an issue as the filters get dirty and they restrict more airflow. Also, restricting airflow is wasting power, since the fan draws the same energy whether the airflow is restricted or not. Without the restriction the fan could circulate - and filter - more air for the same power consumed, and you'd get more filtered air.
    The solution is to build a box out of air filters, which you can just tape together with duct tape. Get 4 appropriately-sized filters and a matching piece of cardboard and build a 5-sided box with one end left open for the fan. Place the cardboard piece on the ground and build the box around that. Now you have so much surface area for the air to pass thru there will be virtually no restriction to the airflow, so no electricity will be wasted and the fan will be able to filter more air in a shorter period of time than it can manage with one filter. You also won't need to change filters as often. Only real downside is it takes up more space and isn't exactly pretty, although you could always build or repurpose some kind of box or cabinet to hide the whole setup in.

    • @GanderFlight
      @GanderFlight  Před 3 lety

      Yes, the box of filters would be overall better - but the amount of space it takes up and the aesthetics are the real killers - I currently have these set up in our bedrooms setting on a dresser - couldn't do that with the air filter box.

    • @sunspot42
      @sunspot42 Před 3 lety +1

      @@GanderFlight It does take up more space. You could get creative and possibly use narrower filters for the ‘sides’ of the box - not sure what dimensions HEPA furnace filters come in. Would still allow you to more than double the surface area of the filters.

    • @go86go
      @go86go Před 3 lety +1

      This old house has a video for this

  • @jeremiahjohnson5205
    @jeremiahjohnson5205 Před 2 lety

    Lasko makes a fan now with air filter holder built on, seen them in Menards. Not sure if it comes with a filter or what their directions are for MERV acceptabiltiy.

    • @GanderFlight
      @GanderFlight  Před 2 lety

      I've seen them too - they weren't out when I did the original build on these but it gives some validation on the DIY project.

  • @jlo5470
    @jlo5470 Před 2 lety

    If you don’t mind me asking where did you get the two back clips that holds the filters in place?

    • @GanderFlight
      @GanderFlight  Před 2 lety

      Its j - channel for residential home vinyl siding. Here's the build video: czcams.com/video/9vJk5BM8xUo/video.html

  • @johnjacoby5657
    @johnjacoby5657 Před 3 lety

    Great Video, I use the filter on the back of the fan I notice it works better for me, Question ur thoughts , I put filter on back of fan with the air flow arrow pointing towards the front of the fan because it is sucking the air through the back and out the front does that make sense??...Thanks JJ

  • @mthomas6689
    @mthomas6689 Před 3 lety

    🙋🏻‍♀️Hi Josh ! How did you secure the filter and which way did you affix it according to the arrows ???

    • @GanderFlight
      @GanderFlight  Před 3 lety

      hello! I think I saw a comment on the build video so I'm assuming this question was answered? If not let me know!

  • @TomBuskey
    @TomBuskey Před 3 lety

    I use a 4" merv 13 filter on the intake to take dust out of the air in my 200 sq ft shop. When I was using my router my pm2.5 sensor didn't even blip.

    • @GanderFlight
      @GanderFlight  Před 3 lety

      Bigger is better for sure - just costs more and takes up more space - all depends on what you're using it for.

  • @elo0o207
    @elo0o207 Před 2 lety +1

    I just balled up some aluminum foil and used that as a lil stand under the fan in the front so the fan sat more up than facing the floor because of those plastic stands in the back

  • @alexc9133
    @alexc9133 Před 2 lety

    found this video from a This Old House video on making a filter using 4 filters fitted into a cube with a piece of cardboard and a box fan. Any idea on if its worth doing more filters/lowering air resistance on the box fan?
    Really appreciate the experiments you performed.
    I think This Old House said with 4 MERV 13 filters on a box fan that you could move 900 cfm on high speed, any idea if a single filter causes it to move less or maybe it's just not worth it to have that many filters on a single fan?

    • @GanderFlight
      @GanderFlight  Před 2 lety +1

      I haven't done any testing with that setup - for me the footprint was too large and bulky for where I need them so I never considered it a viable option.

  • @imqqmi
    @imqqmi Před měsícem

    I did some testing with my DIY air purifier. I used a 200W wall fan of 400mm (uzman ksa-400 15.7") and a stack of 405x405mm filters: prefilter (thin foam + MERV11 filter 2" thick) - carbon filter (1") and 2" HEPA filter (MERV17). Built a simple wooden box to fit everything in.
    At full speed with ambient temperature of about 18 degrees C it only warmed up to 23-24 degrees C after 30min running as per the thermal imaging camera. I used the fan to pull air through the filters to keep the motor clean. The airflow was enough to cool the motor, even though it was quite a load.
    The advantage of a prefilter is you keep the more expensive ones (carbon and hepa) cleaner so you don't have to replace them as often. The foam layer can be vacuumed off for larger dust particles (also a shop vac with HEPA filter). Pollen are about 2.5-200 micron in size, average about 25 micron. The MERV11 will filter 70% of 2.5 micron and most of the >10 micron size.
    A box fan may not have enough static pressure to pull air through a filter stack though, you'll have to increase surface area to compensate. ie either thicker filters/larger pleats or more square meters/ft.

    • @GanderFlight
      @GanderFlight  Před 22 dny

      all great points - sounds like you had some fun experimenting too!

  • @cobblerq1
    @cobblerq1 Před 2 lety

    I do some painting and the smell is pretty strong at times. Would you think this will help with the smell of paint?

    • @GanderFlight
      @GanderFlight  Před 2 lety

      I'm not sure - give it a try and let us know!

  • @chocolatemilk9821
    @chocolatemilk9821 Před 2 lety

    I don't wanna grind ur gears but what if you had the motor vent holes open would the temp be sort or cooler?

    • @GanderFlight
      @GanderFlight  Před 2 lety

      It's quite possible that might cool it down some.

  • @brl5755
    @brl5755 Před 3 lety +2

    A good test would be to test wattage draw on the fan with and without the fan and compare it to the rated power.

  • @nova31337
    @nova31337 Před 3 lety

    Did you just do both Bill and Ted's greetings at once?! I think you did. Excellent.

  • @debretaevans8049
    @debretaevans8049 Před 3 lety +1

    Yeah I never thought of that it'll help the allergies

    • @GanderFlight
      @GanderFlight  Před 3 lety +1

      Definitely helps running them while sleeping at night.

  • @cassandramunguia5066
    @cassandramunguia5066 Před 3 lety

    What are those things that you have attached to the fans that you slide the filter in and out of where do you get them and what size I've been looking for something like that

    • @GanderFlight
      @GanderFlight  Před 3 lety

      J channel from the hardware store - 5/8" - you'll have to cut it to length

  • @linda1541
    @linda1541 Před rokem

    Is there any particular bran I’d box fan that you would recommend?

    • @GanderFlight
      @GanderFlight  Před rokem +1

      Nope - just something that has the controls on the top or front and the power cord coming out of the bottom so that the filter doesn't interfere with either function.