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  • In this video, Ross Trethewey explains how air filtration systems work and how to build a localized DIY air filter.
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    Home technology expert, Ross Trethewey teaches how air filtration systems work and how to build a localized DIY air filter. Ross explains the MERV air filtration system. MERV stands for Minimal Efficiency Reporting Value, a value that measures how effectively a filter stops particulates of varying sizes from passing through and into the air system. The higher the rating, the more effective the filter is at capturing smaller particles. Ratings 1-16 are HVAC use; in general, houses usually have around a MERV 5-12 system. MERV 17-20 are HEPA filters, those are used in hospitals and laboratories. Ross clarifies that homeowners cannot just install a MERV 16 or HEPA filter into their homes. In many circumstances the HVAC systems homeowners have in place simply aren’t strong enough to handle higher rated filters, as the more filtration the air has to go through, the more resistance it has to overcome. Even if you were to get a thicker filter that increases surface area, meaning less resistance, you’ll have to check if your HVAC system has enough space to install a thicker filter. Check with an HVAC technician to check what rating your system can handle.
    If you are unable to acquire a higher rated filter, Ross demonstrates how to build your own DIY air filter. By taking four MERV-13 air filters and duct taping them on all four sides of a box fan, you’ll have a localized air filter for any room you want. For about $150, you can have a little piece of mind during wildfires and other disasters that impact our air quality.
    Time: 20 minutes
    Cost: $150
    Skill Level: Beginner
    Shopping List:
    20-inch box fan [amzn.to/39AXsCa]
    Four 20x20x2 MERV-13 air filters [amzn.to/3qKzECS]
    Duct tape [amzn.to/3qpWmAd]
    Cardboard cutout [amzn.to/3spfvns]
    Steps:
    1. Cut out a piece of cardboard that’s the same size as the box fan to use for the back.
    2. Place the cardboard on a table and take the four air filters and stack them on the edges of the cutout, with the airflow arrow pointing in (air intake side).
    3. Take duct tape and secure each filter to the fan.
    4. Duct tape the cardboard backing.
    5. Place the fan on the other side and secure it with duct tape.
    6. Remember that you’ll have to replace the filters every once in a while. For Ross’ DIY system, the filters should be replaced about every six months.
    Where to find it?
    Ross built the air filter using four, 20x20x2, MERV-13 air filters, which Ross got from Filterbuy (filterbuy.com/ ). He duct taped the filters to a cardboard box and a 20-in 3-Speed Box Fan, which is manufactured by Lasko (www.lasko.com/ ), though any 20” fan would work for this application.
    Expert assistance with this segment was provided by Neil Comparetto.
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  • @marshacollins9986
    @marshacollins9986 Před 2 lety +497

    Three months ago I made two of these and began using them in our two story house. There was an immediate noticeable decrease in dust on furniture and floors. Best of all, we realized after a few weeks we no longer wake up at 3 am with sinus/allergy headaches. We are breathing easier. Thank you!

    • @freemind3142
      @freemind3142 Před 2 lety +13

      Glad 2 hear that ... allergy sufferers are helpless with dust problems

    • @marym1485
      @marym1485 Před 2 lety +1

      So one fan is enough to cover each floor of the house?

    • @denverdanoreno
      @denverdanoreno Před 2 lety +7

      Good to know that this system works for you.
      I've done what many people have done, used one filter on the backside of a box fan, but this one is far out!

    • @shantiawilliams3615
      @shantiawilliams3615 Před 2 lety +2

      It may even work better if the box is not behind the back of the fan

    • @bl8388
      @bl8388 Před 2 lety +7

      I used one and it helped clean allergens out of the air. Much better! They made me feel foggy and groggy and even kinda boggy. Now I think clearly, and my IQ jumped 50 points! Would be more impressive if my total IQ wasn't 88.

  • @glenniz1
    @glenniz1 Před 3 lety +159

    I live in Southern Oregon and during the last ten years we have had the worst fire seasons ever!!! Even with all the windows closed, we still have smoke pollution entering our home. If you have ever had to deal with smoke inhalation over months at a time, you will understand how important this simple invention is...Thank You for this simple, effective, and potentially life saving device!!!

    • @petehille5561
      @petehille5561 Před 2 lety +4

      Me too, building one today!

    • @stevenlengyel9701
      @stevenlengyel9701 Před rokem

      Yes, same in Southern California the air is horrible, dust like I’ve never seen before.

    • @lovedbygod7777
      @lovedbygod7777 Před rokem +1

      Did you build one and how did you like the results? Also fan blowing in or out?

    • @chewyslimei289
      @chewyslimei289 Před rokem +1

      ​@@lovedbygod7777 6:57 Air in from the sides and out from the top

    • @Ma_Ba
      @Ma_Ba Před 11 měsíci

      ​@@lovedbygod7777same question. For a second, he spoke of arrows on filters, but not on fan. Any answer on trial and error? (Wildfire 2.5 particulate indoors because my windows are not airtight.)

  • @gone2dmtns
    @gone2dmtns Před 2 lety +55

    I'm remodeling a house and this just gave me some ideas on how to setup a filtration system to help keep from contaminating the finished rooms with construction dust and keep the room air a bit healthier.

    • @TheZankaloni
      @TheZankaloni Před rokem

      Please tell me more. I’m doing the same. I’m thinking of using pvc pipes for both air input pipes and exhaust pipes. I mean why not?

  • @Subgunman
    @Subgunman Před 3 lety +451

    What I have done is add pre filters to catch the larger particles. This way you won't clog the finer filter with the thick stuff. Throw away the cheaper coarser filters more often and conserve the finer filters.

    • @benc1927
      @benc1927 Před 3 lety +54

      I do the same thing except my pre-filters are the washable re-useable ones.

    • @one7decimal2eight
      @one7decimal2eight Před 3 lety +27

      Totally unnecessary. If you're using them in your house they take forever to clog up. Now, maybe if you're using it in a wood shop or if you're in an area with wildfire smoke, sure, add pre filters. Keep in mind the more dense the filter the harder the fan has to work to pull air in.

    • @benc1927
      @benc1927 Před 3 lety +35

      @@one7decimal2eight Not true. I've tried it with and tried it without. You'd be surprised how much the cheap filters will catch. Don't believe me? Just try it out yourself in within a few weeks you'll see.

    • @rickfrank7934
      @rickfrank7934 Před 3 lety +9

      link for your pre filters? do they work with the setup In this video?

    • @bobbg9041
      @bobbg9041 Před 3 lety +11

      @@one7decimal2eight
      Also a higher merv ratting can and will freeze your A coil and damage you compressor becuse the A coli froze up.
      Trust me my old system would build up 4" of ice and tottaly stop the air flow.
      Making the system work really hard and high electric bills.
      You should avoid closing off rooms and closing vents you want the air to move without restrictions.

  • @70ixlr86
    @70ixlr86 Před 2 lety +17

    Clear info on retrofitting a whole home unit. Thank You for making the concerns known. Been using the single filter on box fans for years in the garage. 4 sided is a wonderful idea.

  • @geronimolopez5070
    @geronimolopez5070 Před 2 lety +5

    I really like the back to back simple conversation style, it helps understand what's really important about the subject

  • @ajones6784
    @ajones6784 Před 2 lety +40

    This also works with painters tape, which causes much less damage when the unit is disassembled.

  • @dosgos
    @dosgos Před 3 lety +335

    Put basic foam or cloth outside filters as a prefilter to extend filter life. Prefilter catches larger particles. Clean prefilter from time to time with vacuum cleaner.

    • @ekleko1
      @ekleko1 Před 3 lety +22

      I use cheaper lower merv filters, like a 6 or something. I just double them up.

    • @ItchyKneeSon
      @ItchyKneeSon Před 3 lety +43

      ...and use a pre-filter on your vacuum filter. Then, vacuum your vacuum's pre-filter and filter with a second pre-filtered vacuum. Continue forever. :D

    • @digiryde
      @digiryde Před 3 lety +4

      ​@@ItchyKneeSon So, you get to cursing at the recursive.

    • @assassinlexx1993
      @assassinlexx1993 Před 3 lety +28

      I bought washable air filters. They are the best. Just pop it out, hit it with the hose. Next morning dry ready to go. Saved a fortune.

    • @nedcramdon1306
      @nedcramdon1306 Před 3 lety +2

      @@ItchyKneeSon Ha, ha, that's about the size of it....... then install a germ zapper laser.

  • @ahidalgo4
    @ahidalgo4 Před 3 lety +7

    So glad to have seen this. Learned again from my life instructor YT video. And I thought I was straining my box fan when upgraded from 1 to 2 inch. I'm going with 5 inch now after I finish with my 2 inch filters

  • @bashbroq
    @bashbroq Před 2 lety +26

    This old house always putting out quality stuff, still one of my favorite shows

    • @tnt3692
      @tnt3692 Před rokem +2

      A 15 yo boy invented this and put out the info free for everyone

  • @victorherrera8026
    @victorherrera8026 Před 2 lety +4

    I do this with one filter put in the back of box fan standing up. Airflow holds it or a little tape to secure. Works great.

  • @ChrisTedoni
    @ChrisTedoni Před 3 lety +18

    Thank you for talking about the resistance aspect of this. I always assumed that by putting in a better filter, you would have to be adding work for the system itself and it is nice to know that my brain wasn't off.

  • @skyrocketcoast219
    @skyrocketcoast219 Před 2 lety +20

    Northern California: Made one 2 weeks ago, the day our area started to get bad air from big Tamarack Fire 3 hrs away.
    works perfectly! Did not have any duct tape, used Tvek tape instead. Air filter is placed in front of old glass door in kitchen that goes out to patio.

    • @skyrocketcoast219
      @skyrocketcoast219 Před 2 lety +9

      Aug3- Usung it now about 3-1/2 weeks: dyi air filter works really really well. Had 5 days bad air&;all ok. put it in daily even when air ok - noticeable difference in using less daily asthma inhaler.

    • @freyakitten243
      @freyakitten243 Před 2 lety +4

      I'm in Nor Cal as well and with an AQI of over 450 today, I'm thinking I will head to Lowe's tomorrow to make this. Our whole family just finished with having covid and 2 of us have lost our sense of taste and smell so I have no idea if it smells smokey inside, at least this way, I can see the filters getting dirty!

    • @buckmcdaniel8631
      @buckmcdaniel8631 Před 2 lety +1

      Aiming the filter outside is not as good of an idea as it sounds. The fan sucks dirty air in but blows clean air out. When you point the fan outside, it draws more dirty air from outside back into your home.
      If you put it in a room, it circulates the air and dust. It sucks the dust into the filters and blows clean air in the room. It can leave you with cleaner air in the room than you have outside. That's what you want.

  • @Marchautowerks
    @Marchautowerks Před 3 lety +2

    I live in a century old house, no hvac steam radiator for heat and put window units in for summer. Definitely want to try this

  • @Zincink
    @Zincink Před 2 lety +1

    I needed this like 2 years ago. Bought a Whirlpool doctor recommended hepa air filter. My Dad used to use a box fan w a filter for painting in the winter.

  • @chrisy876
    @chrisy876 Před 3 lety +19

    Great idea! Thanks for the video. I have one with one side of HEPA filter only. It worked real well & resolved my allergy problem when the air was filled with ashes & dusts from the wild fire later last year. It only cost me a few $ for the box fan & the filter. Highly recommended!

  • @Twistedf8te88
    @Twistedf8te88 Před 3 lety +3

    Made this myself today using a A black Lasko fan from Walmart some black duct tape and air filters works really well.

  • @DarkStarProGamer
    @DarkStarProGamer Před rokem +1

    Simple, yet elegant solution that beats products priced upwards of $500. Thank you!

  • @lvteachme973
    @lvteachme973 Před 3 lety +2

    Yes, a great idea! Thanks. I am going to try it.

  • @scottmiller5975
    @scottmiller5975 Před 9 měsíci +115

    I'm not sure why other window fans have become such pieces of garbage czcams.com/users/postUgkxGjG43--gYqIoT4Xkur2PqCrtbKwTv2h6 but this one definitely is nice. It's quiet, it has buttons for different functions that you generally don't have to keep pressing over and over again like some of the others, and the remote is a nice feature. Still, button simplification could go further to single functions for each and every one, but it's decent enough. It's a very quiet fan, the quietest window fan that I have ever had, and that alone is worth the extra money over the cheaper ones.

  • @johnvrabec9747
    @johnvrabec9747 Před 2 lety +3

    I use a modified version of this in a home made spray booth that works great. I have 3 sides of PVC pipe with joints covered with drop cloth type plastic hinged with zip ties and a box fan with a 1"filter over it to control overspray in my garage when spray painting things. I also made a lazy susan that attaches to my B&D workmate to get 360° access when spraying.

  • @jon-xt6mo
    @jon-xt6mo Před 3 lety +4

    OH MY GOODNESS I ABSOLUTELY LOVE THIS!!!!!

  • @offgrid2010
    @offgrid2010 Před 7 dny

    I just decided a little earlier to look for plans, ideas. You were my 1st stop and you told everything I needed to know!!!

  • @todddavis9426
    @todddavis9426 Před 3 lety +1

    I have a DIY box fan air filter in my home. Just yesterday, I set one up in my in-laws home. I may try this cube concept.

  • @TomTerrific
    @TomTerrific Před 2 lety +6

    I use one good filter 20 x 25 up against a box fan. Simple, but it works great.

  • @GS-rw9og
    @GS-rw9og Před 2 lety +4

    AS AN ASTHMATIC, THIS INFO IS INVALUABLE AND M AFFORDABLE FOR MY BUDGET AND A WISE DECISION FOR ANY BUDJET, SO GRATEFUL !!!! ,,LOVE THIS CHANNEL,,,THANKYOU FROM MY HEART!!!

  • @adrianabshire
    @adrianabshire Před 3 lety +3

    I need this for my workshop in my garage! Will be building this today!!!

  • @coreyg7255
    @coreyg7255 Před 3 lety +248

    I did a basic version of this when we were choking with wildfire smoke back in August, worked well and it was pretty obvious how much it was filtering out of the air in the house.. About the only thing I would change here is to run the fan vertically, as it was designed. Laying it horizontal like that is begging for a motor or bushing failure, depending on how that motor is designed to run. Leave it standing like it was meant to be.

    • @KenG....
      @KenG.... Před 3 lety +13

      Yes. Vertical.... couldn't understand why the fan was on top.

    • @dougc78
      @dougc78 Před 3 lety +12

      The fan is on top to increase air flow & filtration. If it was vertical you have less filtration and higher air resistance and higher loads on the motor.

    • @coreyg7255
      @coreyg7255 Před 3 lety +46

      @@dougc78 How so? Gravity cannot be of much help here. If the bottom of the box was cardboard, and all other sides were filters, you would have the exact same amount of air flow and pressure with the fan sitting in its vertical position, as designed.

    • @dougc78
      @dougc78 Před 3 lety +33

      @@coreyg7255 Very good point!! I completely overlooked the cardboard bottom... Let's just call this one a "Brain Fart"

    • @viverra
      @viverra Před 3 lety +160

      According to Camparetto, the HVAC engineer who designed this system, it was designed with a horizontal fan because particles, even microscopic ones, settle due to gravity. That means, first, that the density of contaminants is greater near the floor. A vertical fan pulls contaminants in from the air column on one side of the room, and blows the clean air into the other side of the room. Contaminants already on the downwind side of the room are simply blown further across the room, and they can easily collect in eddies. A horizontal fan pulls the particles in from near the floor, where they are in higher density, and blows the clean air up; the resultant air currents push contaminants from the corners of the room back towards the filter box. It's a more efficient way of cleaning the entire air volume of the room.

  • @Ladyofvirtue247
    @Ladyofvirtue247 Před 2 lety +28

    This is genius!! I recently purchased 2 reaaaaalllllly expensive air purifiers and the replacement filters are expensive as well just last week, needless to say I will be returning the expensive air purifiers and making two of these! One for my office space one for my home.

  • @laurabowne3409
    @laurabowne3409 Před 3 lety +26

    Just made this for my pottery studio because silicosis is real! Thank you !

    • @starveil101
      @starveil101 Před 2 lety +2

      Ooph. Totally agree!
      I wish I wasn't so relaxed about this at my first job out of highschool! I worked PT for 5 years at a franchise pottery studio and naively signed a disclosure about this but can't remember what specific harms it mentioned. No one on staff ever wore masks with the glaze dust or for anything else. Knowledge is definitely power, and so is age/experience 😊👍

  • @oldtwinsna8347
    @oldtwinsna8347 Před 3 lety +145

    Nice to see some current day videos rather than stuff from several years being posted as if it were new.

    • @TheDobbermn
      @TheDobbermn Před 3 lety +1

      how is it not current day when they are talking about COVID?

    • @coryulrich6489
      @coryulrich6489 Před 3 lety +17

      @@TheDobbermn that's not what he said. He was appreciating that THIS video IS current. Their recent video releases have just been reruns. This is the first genuinely new video they've done in a while.

    • @TheDobbermn
      @TheDobbermn Před 3 lety +6

      @@coryulrich6489 Yep, as i reread it you are correct.

    • @Rearmostbean
      @Rearmostbean Před 3 lety +3

      Kinda seems like a terrible idea though. I made one with one filter a while back and there was no airflow. I would have liked to see a demonstration of the airflow here, because it costs $100 to set up. Seems like a lot

    • @bobby_greene
      @bobby_greene Před 3 lety

      I'm pretty sure this came out a while ago, like last spring

  • @MikeTwoPoint0
    @MikeTwoPoint0 Před 3 lety +5

    I put a merv 8 4" 20x20 on a 20" box fan, it works awesome and doesn't take up so much space.

  • @bobwadsworth4799
    @bobwadsworth4799 Před 3 lety +155

    I wanted to see it in action with some smoke to see how well it draws it in and how well it filters. A follow up maybe This Old House??

    • @tmorgan7939
      @tmorgan7939 Před 3 lety +5

      Yeah. . What the heck ? Nice idea but if it is not powerful enough to pull in pieces you want and need to filter out it's nice but maybe a better idea is to save up for one built with specs to do the job.

    • @returntothepath
      @returntothepath Před 3 lety +5

      @@tmorgan7939 look up Izzy Swans video on a box fan filter vs one sold. You'll be surprised.

    • @benjabhd
      @benjabhd Před 3 lety +15

      @@tmorgan7939 i made mine like this model 1 week ago and is not worth the 50 i spent in the 4 "7" rated filters. Doesn't work. I works better to put just 1 filter attached in the back of the fan

    • @tmorgan7939
      @tmorgan7939 Před 3 lety +2

      @@benjabhd Thanks . Good luck with the changes you made..

    • @indegruv
      @indegruv Před 3 lety

      Take the idea and improve it 🤑

  • @karenc2467
    @karenc2467 Před 3 lety +1

    I’m going to have to give this a try !

  • @123mjolie
    @123mjolie Před 2 lety +2

    I'm going to use this in a cabin that I am sanding 20 year old rough sawn wood. And before I can clear coat everything. Thanks this should work great!!

  • @awfab3517
    @awfab3517 Před rokem +4

    These work great!
    The air filters at the store were never big enough for a small size 1600 sf house.
    Going to make another but so I can remove the cheap filters fast and leave the expensive ones in longer.

  • @pizzawarlord9232
    @pizzawarlord9232 Před 3 lety +117

    Surprised no mention about using in wood shop. Been using for years. Gotta change them a lot more often tho

    • @rupe53
      @rupe53 Před 3 lety +4

      Pizza ... have seen similar on both wood shops and auto body shops. There's even commercial versions sold, although more expensive. OTOH, the commercial units are rated to be explosion proof. (chemicals, etc)

    • @hathawaydj1
      @hathawaydj1 Před 3 lety +1

      Indeed. I use only MERV 4s and they help a lot!

    • @derrinpickett9948
      @derrinpickett9948 Před 3 lety +10

      I've been using cheap 20x20 air filter taped to a cheap box fan in my work shop for years. I lightly fog the filter with some spray adhesive. Work's great for capturing over spray particals when painting.

    • @HolyDrugLord
      @HolyDrugLord Před 2 lety +1

      @@derrinpickett9948 what level filters are u using? I just bought some merv 10 filters at $25 a piece, but I was thinking of buying the cheaper ones and spraying them and seeing if it works as good as the higher merv filters
      Do your filters work on smoke when sprayed?

    • @mike41062
      @mike41062 Před 2 lety

      Really good idea- i definitely don't have proper ventilation or any dust collection other than a dust pan and brush.

  • @jus1taj
    @jus1taj Před 2 lety +1

    Very informative. Thank you.

  • @opiate2L
    @opiate2L Před 2 lety +18

    Very good discussion. Many people do not understand the problem with restricting air to the AC unit. We're told to change our filter to keep air flowing but then sold a highly restrictive filter. 🤔

  • @rob-toolsandtech2521
    @rob-toolsandtech2521 Před 3 lety +6

    I’ve thought about doing something like this. Seems like a good idea.

  • @rosskovelman460
    @rosskovelman460 Před 2 lety +4

    Very cool, although suprised you didnt go into more detail around FPR, which is what many box stores sell in terms of filters. And I believe you said it cost around $70 to make it, where a HEPA filtering unit from Winix can be had for around $90 and the filter will last a year. Definitly right size it for the space. And a HEPA filter will get even more finer materials from the air. Thank you for using the platform to get the word out, its so important.

  • @Jeanninecomeau
    @Jeanninecomeau Před 2 lety +2

    Great idea and easy to make.

  • @lesliehatun2044
    @lesliehatun2044 Před rokem +1

    Love this 😀 ❤️ 😍 💖 I use Filtrate 1900 filters 20x20 bc it works best. You can see the build-up and the air in the home is fresher than other filters.

  • @seanile
    @seanile Před 3 lety +88

    Great idea! I improved upon this. Instead of 20x20 filters, I used 20x30. Made it 10 inches taller with an additional 800 inches of filter surface ( 10"x20") additional per filter (x4 sides). I used the cardboard box that the fan came in to cut out the base and taped it up with gorilla tape. Highest merv filter I could find at Home Depot was 10. Thank you for the great idea!

    • @laboulesdebleu8335
      @laboulesdebleu8335 Před 3 lety +13

      Been running essentially the same in middle of my house for 2 or 3 years now, except instead of using cardboard opposite the fan, I taped in a 20x20. My original plan was to modify an inexpensive furniture dolly to set it on, but just taped on 1" cubed blocks of cedar at the 4 corners. Filters last about 14mos, and no issues with fan so far.

    • @bobbg9041
      @bobbg9041 Před 3 lety

      Call around merv 10 isnt that great, you can spray a filter sticker on the filters to catch more. You want mim, merv 13. 15 is even better thats hospital grade merv 16 is clean room purification.
      Merv 10 is what newer hvac systems use.
      My filter in my hvac system are 5" thick.
      Oh look on Amazon. Honeywell or some off brand. They copy Air bear filters .
      Amazons a good place to look.
      You can search Google for merv ratings and what each category is for.

    • @meganofsherwood3665
      @meganofsherwood3665 Před 2 lety

      National Allergy Supply (online) tends to be expensive, but I know they carry filters of at least Merv 12

    • @bobhekker4060
      @bobhekker4060 Před rokem +4

      Over achiever...lol! Great idea!!

  • @pdufusc
    @pdufusc Před 2 lety +4

    I've always used one of the low mervs at the entrance of the filter box, to save the hepa filter from the animal hair clogging. My a/c is in a small room with a 2' door. It has a filter in the door, prior to the air entering the a/c unit. I'm considering building a box that will sit just inside the door, with the 20" box fan, to pre-filter the air and take some of the load off of the a/c unit!

  • @mrgallbladder
    @mrgallbladder Před 2 lety +1

    This thing is gonna look awesome in the middle of my living room!

  • @treal512
    @treal512 Před 2 lety +2

    So educational! Thanks :)

  • @normbograham
    @normbograham Před 2 lety +3

    They used this type of "box", to trap cigarette smoke, 30 years ago, from a break room. it worked great. They used 1" thick filters, and FIVE of them, mounted in the ceiling. The guy used a rebar welded frame.

  • @zodiacfml
    @zodiacfml Před 3 lety +6

    impressively simple and efficient! the video missed the fun part of testing the fan speeds though. another caveat, air purifiers use HEPA filters which I found to be around MERV 17??

  • @The-Grateful-Hippie
    @The-Grateful-Hippie Před 2 lety +2

    We use a wood burning stove for supplemental heat. However we often need fans blowing cooler air toward the stove so the living room won't overheat and the heat will travel to the colder areas of the upstairs. I'm thinking to try this filter setup to also help clean the air. We have to change our filters more frequently in the winter months so if I get 6 months out of it awesome 👍.

  • @robbrownstone
    @robbrownstone Před 3 lety +1

    Gotta love the DIY solution. Stick one in your garage when you're doing projects that may kick up a lot of particulates and bada bing bada bam!

  • @rupe53
    @rupe53 Před 3 lety +141

    Wow, shades of Red Green show with making stuff using duct tape!

    • @babyloobibovski2947
      @babyloobibovski2947 Před 3 lety +28

      Remember: if the girls don’t find you handsome, at least they’ll find you handy

    • @davem6685
      @davem6685 Před 3 lety +6

      @@babyloobibovski2947 you beat me to it!

    • @Krazie-Ivan
      @Krazie-Ivan Před 3 lety +9

      I'm a man, but I can change, If I have to, I guess.

    • @YouGotsTheRabies
      @YouGotsTheRabies Před 3 lety +8

      The handyman's secret weapon.

    • @kmiller5808
      @kmiller5808 Před 3 lety +3

      HAROLD!!!!

  • @nataliemintz6507
    @nataliemintz6507 Před 2 lety +7

    Made one for my house and one for my mom. So easy!

  • @edlauren9434
    @edlauren9434 Před 2 lety +1

    Working on the house remodeling. Flooring and drywall part generates a lot of dust. Will take this air filtration idea for my work.

  • @joellarussell6372
    @joellarussell6372 Před 3 lety +1

    Good with reusable filters and a fragrant satchel for scented air

  • @tjrooger1092
    @tjrooger1092 Před 3 lety +88

    As an HVAC guy, thank you for telling everyone NOT to go buy a 1 inch merv 13 air filter. Those are home wreckers. Those require very specific system designs, like one filter for every room in the house.

    • @charlies.5777
      @charlies.5777 Před 3 lety

      I read somewhere that a 3M 1500 Filtrete filter has an excellent balance of low restriction and high filtration. Do you agree with this statement??

    • @tjrooger1092
      @tjrooger1092 Před 3 lety +7

      @@charlies.5777 That's impossible to guess at. It depends on you much headroom was designed into your system. You can tell by turning the system on and then dropping in the filter. The more the filter snaps into place, the more of a restriction it is. Another thing you could try is taping some kind of streamer to your supply grills, like yarn or toilet paper or whatever. You'll be able to see how much air flow you're losing. In the end it's your house. Try it and see if you notice the difference either in filtration or how your house feels. Personally, I use Flanders EZ Flow II merv 4 about $1.50 each. Air flow is the key to comfort. It's why you have an HVAC system. To move air of the right temperature to where you want it.

    • @charlies.5777
      @charlies.5777 Před 3 lety +1

      @@tjrooger1092
      Thanks for your advice - I appreciate it.
      FOR what it's worth, when you're standing under a vent when the HVAC is running, it feels like you're under a hair dryer and If you drop a piece of paper by the air return when it's running, it pulls it Out of the air like a vacuum cleaner. Hopefully that's a good sign, ESPECIALLY since it didn't do that when I had the higher-rated ( RE MERV rating) 3M filter in there.

    • @VenturaIT
      @VenturaIT Před 2 lety +4

      @@charlies.5777 We have a 1" MERV 13 in our HVAC from 3M and also one on a box fan. It did not break the HVAC and does an excellent job of removing particles. We can test it with our Dylos 1100 Pro particle counter. Our HVAC is heat only with no continuous fan so we can't use it very often, however. We have 3 expensive HEPA purifiers with carbon as well. I've heard that MERV 16 is too much but not MERV 13. But check with a pro.

    • @Acaidia
      @Acaidia Před rokem +3

      Why don't they just make every new system with high merv filters in mind? It seems dumb how you can get a brand new system that can't even handle filters designed a decade ago. With the way things currently are you're left with two choices: Either running a high merv filter that gives you clean air but restricts air flow and damages your system or a lower merv rated filter that allows for good air flow but doesn't clean the air very well. Either way you're forced to settle for less than optimal performance.

  • @johnwang9914
    @johnwang9914 Před 3 lety +20

    Early in the pandemic, I had envision people setting these up everywhere, hanging from the ceiling in school hallways, over restaurant tables, etc. but of course we hardly saw any of these at all.

    • @613kc
      @613kc Před 3 lety +5

      One more proof it's HOAX

    • @johnwang9914
      @johnwang9914 Před 3 lety +17

      @@613kc You truly have a loose interpretation of what constitutes proof. Have you always deluded yourself...

    • @Juangomez9186
      @Juangomez9186 Před 3 lety

      In some schools the air purifier is installed in the air return ducks.

    • @johnwang9914
      @johnwang9914 Před 3 lety

      @@Juangomez9186 Placing more filters in the air return typically requires increasing the power to the centrifugal air pumps due to the higher resistance as HVAC, even home HVAC are designed for the 25% filtration of fibreglass air filters. At the very least, the filter housing would have to hold thicker filters such as 4" or 6" thick MERV-13 to reduce the resistance (the thicker filters have deeper folds hence more surface area for the air to flow through). Then there's also how many times the HVAC are designed to cycle the air in the room in a given period of time. Portable air purifiers would be less expensive than retrofitting the HVAC with better filtration and could offer more directed and more frequent filtration.

    • @moorefilmltd
      @moorefilmltd Před 3 lety

      @@johnwang9914 not always. There’s the iWAVE air scrubber which isn’t a filter. There’s bypass HEPA filters so it’s not fully blocking the duct. Then you have product like the SoliceAir purification systems. Both UVV and UVC lights to combat odors and surface/airborne viruses. Along with their Micropower guard filter which is 1 inch, also ionizes particles,and can filter out particles down to .03 microns in size with air resistance the same as a standard 1” pleated filter. These are usually the systems schools and corporations install.

  • @jaimeorr4661
    @jaimeorr4661 Před 2 lety +1

    I came up with this exact filter box, back in 2000ish to filter the exhaust on my 1980s LECO Oxygen/Nitrogen analytical instrument. The walls in my lab where black. I had the only lab with NO hood/air filtration

  • @bobbliss9607
    @bobbliss9607 Před rokem

    I put a wood burning stove in, and regardless of how I manage the air quality, I still get some soot that floats areound. I have the wood stove in our cellar and every time I go down to add wood, of do something in the cellar, I come up with a dry throat, coughing and sneezing. I'ver done everything that I know how to reduce the soot, but with little or no results. Ok, I saw this segment on the DIY air filter... hooky smokes Bullwinkle... this thing REALLY WORKS! I was in the process of ordering a $ 399 deluxe air filter system, but now I not only save a bunch of moola, but , I did this myself. Thanks a bunch guys !!!!

  • @PlazaQueen
    @PlazaQueen Před 3 lety +24

    I did this at the start of the pandemic, it's awesome to see someone with a big platform show how its done.
    This is perfect for a shop to catch dust as well.
    You can make a wood frame for these filters/fan and even put wheels on it. Makes it super simple to change out and move around!
    (This would be great for low budget schools fighting virus spread)

  • @bigredwag
    @bigredwag Před 3 lety +3

    Honeywell (and knock offs) make a "return filter" . Basically 3" filter retrofit for legacy 1" filter return grille. Merv13, works great with very little change in pressure

    • @09ThunderOne
      @09ThunderOne Před 2 lety

      Wow I had no idea these existed. I'll have to look into this. Genius!

  • @ttinnovations3310
    @ttinnovations3310 Před 3 lety +1

    great idea, i did this but only used 1 filter and never thought to use 4 or possibly even make feet for it and used 5 filters, 900cfm on 4 filters is amazing and for the budget cost too, can make one for each room, with a 6 month ish replacement time

    • @thekittycatnetwork
      @thekittycatnetwork Před rokem

      Or you could stand the fan up, still use cardboard on the bottom & only have to use 4 filters (top, 2 sides & back).

  • @skyrocketcoast219
    @skyrocketcoast219 Před rokem +1

    Made 1 using ' Tyvek Tape- light weight tape & lasts ages!!
    1st box+ 4 sides 2inch merv 13+ fan lasted 2 -1/2 years. Making new one June2022.
    And we put a cardboard shroud in top of the fan too.
    Odd note: the tyvek tape is also used around my outside window screens, if there is a gap.

  • @drew520
    @drew520 Před 2 lety +8

    Looking forward to showing this to my wife and suggesting putting it in the family room😂. But still a very awesome DIY that probably works better than air purifiers 2x the cost

  • @brandonyoung181
    @brandonyoung181 Před 3 lety +18

    Best option is to use those cheapo filters in the furnace so you don’t restrict your hvac system and then use little filter systems like this in each room. You’ll catch so much junk.

  • @worldview730
    @worldview730 Před rokem

    thanks a million for this tutorial 👍👍👍👍

  • @doomslayerforever2858
    @doomslayerforever2858 Před 2 lety

    have to try this for work

  • @youfinallyfoundwaldo1364
    @youfinallyfoundwaldo1364 Před 3 lety +23

    As a toxic mold survivor, I gotta say this is amazingly helpful. This is actually something that people with extreme mold sensitivity and reactions does to help keep them from getting sick, disabled, etc... But I’ll be doing this as an ac unit as well in the hot summer since I can’t use my ac system as mold is inside them and would blow mycotoxins all over my home, belongings and myself. Thanks so much!!!!!

    • @WisdomAgreements
      @WisdomAgreements Před 3 lety +2

      Exactly what I'm dealing with now. I'm in low income housing and we have a central ac, been running for 3 days and I already smell the mold. I have my ION fan going, but looking for more options. I have severe heat sensitivity so I need to use the AC.

    • @youfinallyfoundwaldo1364
      @youfinallyfoundwaldo1364 Před 3 lety +1

      @@WisdomAgreements
      I totally get all of that. I’d rather be hot and learn how to cool my home and body down vs get more mold suck and ruin my things again.

    • @WisdomAgreements
      @WisdomAgreements Před 2 lety +3

      I found some green filters at Home Depot. I covered the vents and it traps mold, dust, dust mites, pollen, etc. It's just like this.

    • @meganofsherwood3665
      @meganofsherwood3665 Před 2 lety +6

      It may be too expensive (cost me my $200 covid support check), but one thing I did was get the AirFree mini incinerator air cleaner, to actually kill rather than just trap mold & mycotoxins. I don't know how much it would help if the problem is in the air conditioner itself, but I know it's helped in my intractably moldy bathroom.
      I know another thing my doctor did was put me on Milk Thistle Extract for mold toxicity, and it helped me a lot.
      Best of luck on your healing journey!!

  • @AdamDaley1
    @AdamDaley1 Před 3 lety +55

    Im gonna build one of these and walk around town wearing it :)

  • @1Cichfishy
    @1Cichfishy Před 2 lety

    Definitely making one for the computer room.

  • @JC.SpdRcr5
    @JC.SpdRcr5 Před 3 lety +1

    My brother in law put a higher Merv filter (because higher is better right?) in his furnace and it put so much stress on the fan blower motor that it burn it out. The higher the Merv # the harder it is to get air through it. That also made it difficult for the air to travel to their second floor. He was told to follow the recommendations and instructions that come with his furnace when they installed the new one. The person who installed their new system wrote the Merv # on the side of the furnace as well as airflow direction and filter size.

  • @tabularasa820
    @tabularasa820 Před 3 lety +5

    Also, put one of these near each return air in the house to improve your whole house air quality.

  • @JJ-dz6oj
    @JJ-dz6oj Před 3 lety +40

    Before you upgrade your HVAC filter I recommend installing a magnehelic pressure gauge. Most systems are rated to run at .5 inches of water max dP (differential pressure), so get a gauge that goes to .5 or 1 inwc. Ideally your system will run at less than .3 inwc with a new filter, but there are more factors at work than the number of pleats or the efficiency of the filter media. If your return is not sized sufficiently it may mean higher face velocity at the filter. Higher face velocity means higher dP, which means the blower works harder to pull air. Installing a gauge will help you figure out the baseline of your system and determine what filter you can use. An added bonus is that you can start replacing filters when the pressure drop, or dP, gets close to .5inwc versus changing every three months. Unfortunately filter companies don’t publish pressure drop on the package.

    • @tomfenimore9667
      @tomfenimore9667 Před 2 lety +7

      Great information that most people are absolutely ignorant of. Most systems have undersized returns.

    • @bobboscarato1313
      @bobboscarato1313 Před 2 lety +2

      @@tomfenimore9667 Very true. That's one of the reasons systems don't last as long as they should!

    • @da9413
      @da9413 Před rokem +1

      The air blower will not work harder. It will actually pull less amps. Less airflow due to airflow restriction means less work. Now the evap coil is designed for a certain airflow, that in turn will work less efficiently.

    • @JJ-dz6oj
      @JJ-dz6oj Před rokem +1

      @@da9413 It depends on the type of system you have (PCS, constant torque, variable speed). Regardless if the blower works harder versus longer, more energy will be consumed to achieve the desired temperature as differential pressure increases.

  • @TrudiTrahanupchanOKRA
    @TrudiTrahanupchanOKRA Před 2 lety +1

    I have standing fans, allergic to diesel, fragrances, laundry soap & my bedroom & bathroom were full of such fumes leaking in from windows and floor boards. I finally managed to seal the leaks on the floor & bedroom window but to detox the rooms I saw a TV report similar & bought Merv11 wrapped it around my stand fans and amazing this removed all the diesel fumes from my bedroom and laundry fumes from my bathroom. I keep them running and I can finally sleep without wearing a gas mask. I have paid a fortune for air filters since 1986 and Merv11 wrapped around a fan is even better than anything I ever had.

  • @wpw4508
    @wpw4508 Před 3 lety +1

    During the 2018 During Paradise Camp Fire, and last fall's fires in California and Oregon, this (plus N95s if you could get em), were a daily necessity. And this was two years BEFORE Covid.
    Just get box fan, put a furnace filter behind it (watch the arrows!), and turn it on. The suction will keep the filter in place.

  • @WillN2Go1
    @WillN2Go1 Před 3 lety +4

    Good stuff.
    I've got a few different HEPA units, and a very sensitive nose. On my floor furnace I have one HEPA furnace filter like these, on an angle on one side of the furnace (floor furnaces are really great at collecting dust and then spreading it). The filter is attached to the bottom of a dorky plywood box hung on the wall above it. On one side of the box is a small round table fan. Now I have hot filtered air blowing through my house.
    To replace a $400 Honeywell unit that smells like burning wires, I just wired another HEPA furnace filter to the back of a big circular floor fan. (When it's going it sucks the filter against the back of the fan.) This does about as good a job as the Honeywell junk before it started smelling like burning wires. Both of these completely bootleg set ups worked pretty good during California's bad fires a few months ago.

  • @bobby-c7731
    @bobby-c7731 Před 3 lety +4

    I use MERV 13 filters in my woodshop. I duct tape one to the back of a fan. I like this system because it will move the air more efficiently. Just have to account for the space.

    • @michaelkline9647
      @michaelkline9647 Před 3 lety +3

      A wodden frame could allow it to be hung from the ceiling. A simple pivoting wood latch would make swapping the filters a breeze.

    • @johnlynnbeck
      @johnlynnbeck Před 3 lety

      @@michaelkline9647 I was thinking the same thing, even with the cube implementation in the video. Could be just the thing I need for my own shop, with a lot more capacity to move air!

  • @dastanharris
    @dastanharris Před 2 lety

    thank you for the surface are tips.. 🥰

  • @oside760a
    @oside760a Před 2 lety

    Fantastic. Need this in Sacramento CA!

  • @ESTREPROD
    @ESTREPROD Před 3 lety +12

    Great informative vid. I made the mistake of changing my filter from a merv 4 (original) to a merv 13. Not only did my fan motor seize, the coil almost froze over and mold started forming around the motor and coil. I had to go down to a merv 8. I might try to use a 5 inch filter.

  • @AbeTheRock
    @AbeTheRock Před 3 lety +60

    Great now I can take this Minecraft block everywhere I go!

  • @TedSchoenling
    @TedSchoenling Před 3 lety +1

    Been running MERV 13 for years 20x20x1 stock system that was put in in 2012... no problems.

    • @tribulation138
      @tribulation138 Před 3 lety

      depends on your hp and rpms on motor. its a easy upgrade if your motor is underpowered.

  • @BFSilenceDogood
    @BFSilenceDogood Před 3 lety

    That's fantastic!

  • @cbryantbear6498
    @cbryantbear6498 Před 3 lety +260

    Is anyone else thinking “Apollo 13?” 😂😂😂

  • @mjb12141963
    @mjb12141963 Před 3 lety +6

    I started using a single 20x20x1 in my garage when I work with wood and the door closed because of winter and they clog very fast. I am going to try this idea.

    • @SheikhN-bible-syndrome
      @SheikhN-bible-syndrome Před 2 lety

      I literally do the same thing in my 1 car garage at my apartment lol helps so much when I'm cutting plywood

  • @sethclayton-gf5fi
    @sethclayton-gf5fi Před rokem

    Been using one of these for a long time but it’s really handy right now w these Canada wild fires

  • @charleshorseman55
    @charleshorseman55 Před 2 lety

    I like intention, I like the feedback, and I like the gumption. Now to figure out how to retrofit my A/C to accomodate a 4" filter.

    • @ForrestGump1212
      @ForrestGump1212 Před 2 lety

      lol I would not do that. you will put a strain on the HVAC's motor. it cannot move fast enough to force that much air through a thicker filter.

  • @maxmillanmaxmillan
    @maxmillanmaxmillan Před 2 lety +3

    I just use a single filter for my small room. I’ve seen a video that uses 2 filters (think triangular.) This would be suitable for a much larger room.

  • @bob88pct
    @bob88pct Před 3 lety +38

    They have a link in the description for Amazon to buy the cardboard cutout 😂 I'm sure everyone has a old cardboard box in their garage that they can use.

    • @ErnieTessein
      @ErnieTessein Před 3 lety +10

      How about the box the filters will come in hahaha

    • @unusualfoods
      @unusualfoods Před 3 lety +1

      LOL

    • @one7decimal2eight
      @one7decimal2eight Před 3 lety +4

      Or perhaps use the box the fan came in if you did not take the display box for the filters...which is what I did.

    • @Zincink
      @Zincink Před 2 lety

      Hahaha

  • @dokmanian
    @dokmanian Před 2 lety

    that works great I use that when im working on peoples house to keep dirt and dust down

  • @Bryan-T
    @Bryan-T Před rokem

    this is brilliant

  • @GP1080HD
    @GP1080HD Před 3 lety +17

    I will be building up this today in my garage and hopefully finish it up in 20 days ... :)

    • @Mackandal-
      @Mackandal- Před 3 lety

      🤣🤣🤣

    • @613kc
      @613kc Před 3 lety +1

      It will cost twice as mush and take 3x as long, guaranteed.

  • @felisalpinis7357
    @felisalpinis7357 Před 2 lety +6

    I tried putting a 20" filter directly on the fan. Worked great and lasted through the crisis, but afterwards one of the coils failed on the fan due to overstressing. I decided to use more filters & was referred to this video. Pretty much what I'd envisioned, but I would leave one side open for the fan so that it would rest on its base & blow sideways as it was designed to do. Not sure how having the fan flat will affect the bearings.

  • @Peter-td3yk
    @Peter-td3yk Před 3 lety

    very good info

  • @nicolecrystal6765
    @nicolecrystal6765 Před rokem

    Thank you dudes I love you so

  • @dadgarage7966
    @dadgarage7966 Před 2 lety +3

    It's a hack, but for esthetics, have the pleats in the same direction. And use aluminum sheet metal tape. And make the bottom a filter as well so it can be oriented in any position.

  • @AS-we9xi
    @AS-we9xi Před 3 lety +5

    Axial fan without a shroud = very little static pressure. Your furnace has a centrifugal blower capable of much higher static pressure and closer to 2000cfm (or more). That box fan isn't going to last 6 months running continuous and is much louder. You will get much better performance throwing a deeper filter in your furnace and running the fan.
    Also load on a centrifugal pump (fan) decreases with decreasing flow (decreasing mass). You will not "seize up" your blower motor, you will actually decrease the load. Blower motors have taps to adjust the airflow based on the amount of restriction from ductwork and filters. They are designed for this. The only risk is having too high of a delta T (temperature differential) across the heat exchanger, which can cause damage to a furnace if it is extreme or freeze up the coils on an air conditioner. The blower can be adjusted to compensate, as designed.

  • @wmpmacm
    @wmpmacm Před 2 lety +1

    I have placed 20x20 filters on the back of my box fans for years. I use from 1900 to 2500. Recently the highest.

  • @vl6741
    @vl6741 Před 2 lety

    Super great idea.

  • @jameswturley
    @jameswturley Před 3 lety +4

    Nice video, great idea for making an air purifier. Think I may try this in the coming spring.

    • @fredochs
      @fredochs Před 3 lety +1

      I'm thinking that too...