LG G2 OLED TV Review - The Brightest OLED TV We've Tested
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- čas přidán 18. 06. 2024
- The LG G2 OLED is a high-end TV, and it's the successor to the LG G1 OLED. This TV has a unique design, and unlike most TVs, it doesn't even come with a stand, as it's designed to be mounted flush to your wall with the included slim wall mount. Like other LG TVs, it uses the webOS smart interface. The 'G' lineup isn't as popular as the rest of LG's lineup, as the unique design isn't cheap, but it's LG's highest-end 4k model in 2022, sitting above the more popular LG C2 OLED and below the 8k LG Z2 OLED.
Model Tested: 65” (OLED65G2PUA)
Amazon: www.rtings.com/afflink/AYEAAH...
Should also be valid for the 55 inch (OLED55G2PUA), 77 inch (OLED77G2PUA), 83 inch (OLED83G2PUA), 97 inch (OLED97G2PUA)
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00:00 Intro
00:31 Design
01:55 Test Results
08:16 Verdict
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Hello love your reviews please include burn in test and which is tv gonna be best for long time use
After months of debating and searching, finally decided to go with 77" G2 ❤️❤️ i cannot wait to watch my first movie on it 😁
We watched Ozark last night on our 'dim' C9 in HDR in a totally dark room and there were several times where I squinted a bit when the the 3 minute dark scene instantly transitioned to a bright one... going to need sunglass with these kool brighter TVs.
in movie mode it should be fine with d65 warm 2. but yeah hdr some times is really crazy in a dark room
lol, apparently the Hisense does 2,300 nits in SDR 🙂 Forget sunglasses, we'll need suntan lotion soon!
Are you sure it was HDR and not Dolby Vision? I find HDR on my C1 looks fantastic, the brightness levels are boosted perfectly to make it balanced, at least for me. However, I find Dolby Vision to be a bit too dark. Maybe it's different on the C9, who knows.
@@cun7us Yes, 100% sure. HDR.
@@ThunderStruckMTB interesting. It could be that particular scene is quite dark which some OLEDs struggle with on shadow detail.
Thank you for an amazing video as always!, It would be amazing to do an seperate ratings from Lg G3 55-77 (MLA) from Lg G3 83-97 (Non MLA) Ratings!😃 im thinking of buying G3 97 and ur ratings, Reviews! would always be considered an very important! And GREAT ones!
Thank you for the kind words, we'll definitely keep this in mind!
Thanks for an awesome review,
How does this tv compare to other lg qned mini led tvs like lg 2022 mini led 85 and 90 series...
Don't bother with those tv's anything but OLED series for LG is garbage. Try TCL 6 series r646 or go for Sony x90J or above.
Unfortunately, we haven't bought and tested them yet, so we can't say how they compare. Without having our own data we don't like to speculate and risk giving out incorrect information. They're on our suggestion list though, so if there's enough interest, we'll buy and review them. That said, you can vote for it here if you'd like! www.rtings.com/tv/suggestions
Ok does anyone know exactly how thick the entire tv is? Also with the included flush mount how far does it protrude from the wall? I have a sliding barn door that I extended and am wondering if the tv would pass under it
Hi guys, it would be awesome to see a full comparison video of LG G2 vs A90J?
Hey Ritesh,
While this isn't a video we have planned for the immediate future, we'll pass this along to our video team to keep in mind! :)
I'm surprised no one's done a G2 vs A90J showdown yet, especially since the A90J was last year's best OLED in terms of picture quality. Seems like the G2 has matched it in most areas and is even brighter with less ABL, but I'd like to see how it compares in terms of upscaling and picture quality.
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This exactly.
We need the a90j comparison
@@TonyDrecaps there is not going to be one because most reviewers or calibrators already ditched their last year TVs. The closest thing would be @Classy Tech Calibrations with his G2 vs a80k showdown which can show you how close the LG has come close to Sony not only to the a90j but into their picture processing in gral, but it's only with the G2 as for some reason the G series happens to be sharper and upscale better , compared to the C2. I personally love how the G2 shows it's Dolby Vision content which I got to see on the a80J and was not impressed by it was one of the main reasons why I return that tv
@@ale88xra which tv did you return?
@@star727798 the a80j. Was not happy with the experience with Sony OLED pre-calibration, my unit had raised blacks and I couldn't stand it. LG blacks look better to me but ultimately I'm passing on that to go with qd oled instead
Question for qn85b. If this better than qn85a in local dimming and have same local dimming as qn90a why is it lower than qn85a? Surely the improved local dimming and more dimming zones will give it higher score despite it IPS panel
Hey Dan,
If we understand you're question correctly, you're comparing local dimming on the QN85B, QN85A, and the QN90A, correct? As for 'will give it a higher score', what score are you referring to? Thanks for any additional clarity you can offer!
I’m between Lg G2 and Phillips OLED937, both have same panel with heatsink, Phillips has many more in package like for ex soundbar b&w. I’m wondering if the image quality, brightness are the same ? I can’t find a comparison between them nowhere. :( what do you think? Can you tell me which one is better at this point? Of course, there is Sony A95k also but a bit expensive. 😮
Unfortunately, we haven't tested the Philips OLED 937, so we really can't say how they compare. Without having our own data, we wouldn't want to speculate and risk giving you incorrect information. Sorry about that!
How about a review of the Skyworth XC9000 OLED TV? Is it the best bang for the buck OLED TV?
Hey Lawrence,
We have a few Skyworth TVs on our suggestion list, so if there's enough interest, we'll definitely buy and review it! :)
Review Sony A80K and A95K please 😍😣
They’re both on our suggestion list and doing quite well. So, we’ll definitely buy and review them at some point! 😊
You didn't mention that the G2 has the newer ATSC 3.0 tuner & the C2 still uses 2.0.
what are the advantages of the atsc?
@@kojimasan444 The 3.0 tuner supports 4K OTA & it's available is some parts of the US.
@@510maddog ah I see. I have 4ktv on CZcams tv. There's barely any 4k live content. I don't think that's a must have. Tv stations are extremely slow to advancing technology and then you have all the red tape with the FCC.
@@kojimasan444 not sure you’re following…ATSC 3 is 4K content from all the broadcast networks
You’re right, this isn’t something we covee with our current methodology. There’s limited (if any) OTA content here at the moment, so it would be hard to test this properly. It’s something we’re hoping to address in the future though because we know it’s important to a lot of users!
I just had a chat with LG Support that told me that the Gallery Stand fits OLED55G23LA. They both seem to support the same VESA standard. 🤔
Yes, this sounds reasonable ... but this doesn't work for the new G2 table top stand, because it doesn't use the standardised VESA mount. All G series optional table top stands had (and will have) a proprietary connection to the tv.
Nevertheless you can of course use a 3rd party table top stand which are all using the VESA mount.
@@marcuscole8796 can you give me a link for a table top stand for the 83g2
@@marcuscole8796 thanks
And im from europe too👍
I saw another review that stated it was 930 nits in a 10% window after calibration in movie maker mode. Which is still excellent, yet you say it's 1054 nits, that's a pretty big difference. Which mode was your G2 in when that was measured. I have a 77" G2 and absolutely love the TV. I big improvement over my previous C9.
Rtings used "Cinema Mode" and "Peak Brightness" max (as you can check in their written review). All other reviewers measured in "Filmmaker Mode" ("Peak Brightness" off). The G2 in "Filmmaker Mode" also was incredibly accurate ootb (DeltaE of 0.5) ... much better than what Rtings measured in "Cinema Mode" (even after calibration).
Therefore it very much looks like the two modes have a massive impact on brightness and accuracy.
You can choose from very high brightness (1,165 nits in real scene) with mediocre accuracy (DeltaE of 2 ... which is still not visible yet because below 3) ... or ... lower (but still high) brightness (930 nits) with outstanding accuracy (DeltaE of 0.5) ... both ootb.
mate I currently have a c9, as you see the change to the g2, is it worth the shine as you see it??, thanks.
@@pamies82 Although the C9 is much more future-proof and much less prone to burn in than the C7 (I own) ... it performs similar to the C7 (720 nits peak, SDR 350 nits , full field 145 nits, a.s.o.).
I love the C7 ... but ... I will buy the G2 by end of the year ... when firmware and prices have matured^^ ... due to it
- has a heatsink installed !
- as well as a much more powerful processor (hence much less pq and upscaling issues)
- and a fairly improved panel (OLED.EX ... 30% less power consumption, less image retention, close to zero risc for burn in)
... and also as from the measurements it appears to be a massive improvement with entirely getting rid of tone mapping for most HDR content out there (1000 nit mastered):
peak: 1165 nits (relevant "Real Scene")
SDR: 475 nits (relevant "Real Scene")
full field: 180 to 200 nits
Just to share some thoughts 😉
@@pamies82 In my opinion it's a significant improvement over the c9. I'm also going from a 65" to a 77" However besides the screen size it's better in every way. ABL isn't as aggressive, in fact I haven't noticed it kick in yet. I moved my C9 to the bedroom and now I notice the ABL kick in even more then before. It's noticeably brighter, colors are more vibrant and the HDR is just impressive. If you have the cash to spare it'll be a nice upgrade.
Could you please also cover colour volume in the video reviews? It shows us how the TV can maintain the colour gamut across its luminance range, important for HDR.
More of a Vincent thing. Watch HDTVtest
I saw the reviews and videos from the tv community about colour volume from WRGB Oleds, you shouldn't worry to much about this with the G2. In the 30 mintues CES 2022 video czcams.com/video/9jjE5oU3psU/video.html on 8:57 minutes they explain that the colour volume is almost 100% with the new Oled models. The HDR results will be amazing again on this newer Models anyway.
@@Mile91903 RTINGs measured the colour volume in their full written review, it's 77% P3. I'm simply asking them to include the figure in the video review too.
@@xm3405 I agree that they could Include it, but I don't understand the big difference from rtings and the CES advertisements. The A90J had a better color volume on rtings compared to the G2 but when I saw them side by side in a local store. The G2 was ways beter in every HDR demo for me and the seller agreed.
@@Mile91903 Advertised specs are always misleading, this is why TV reviews are done in the first place, if you're aware of the monitor market you'll know they advertise stuff like 1ms response time when test results show it to be 8ms. If you look at the 10,000 nit colour volume test then the G2 does indeed have higher colour volume at the same luminance. The number we are looking at is normalised value to the brightness level. WRGB OLEDs lose colour volume at higher brightness levels which is why dimmer WRGB OLEDs have higher "normalised volume."
what are your guys guess on the S95B real scene preak brightness? I"m gonna say 1300 nits...
We don’t feel comfortable guessing as we wouldn’t want to provide incorrect information. Our results should be available early this week though so stay tuned 👀
I heard that the G2 leans back a bit when used with its stand. Is that true? Sounds like it would be subtle but annoying. Thanks!
Unfortunately we didn't have the stand sold by LG and instead had to use a third party one for demonstration purposes. So, we can't really say how the proper stand performs. Sorry about that!
Hi, Do you think that with brightness at 0 or almost 0 it can appear burnt working in windows? I work with brightness 0. Thanks
Hey Jonathan, it looks just fine, especially if you'll be using it in a dark room!
Good morning, I wonder why the TV manufacturers have not thought of producing screens without internal audio for those of us who already have external audio equipment in the room. I think they could sell premium screens at even more affordable prices.
The costs probably aren't justifiable from a logistics / manufacturing point of point of view...manufacturing lines, marketing, packaging, etc.; that said, I feel at 77" and up, your market more than likely has AV gear in place.
As Tim Hesse points out, costs in manufacturing, logistics,etc, prohibits your idea from becoming a reality. And there's still a large part of the population that either can't afford external audio products, or they don't really care about hifi audio.
@@gr8tmuzic11 is that exactly that is the dilemma, those who buy high-end or medium-high-end TVs, are the ones who end up buying sound bars, headphones or external equipment, and in the end they do not use the audio from the TV, because they complain that they do not satisfies. Now something aside, those who buy lower-end TVs do use audio, because those users do not invest more in it, and the manufacturers put very generic components in them.
@@TimHesseFlagship or high-end line of televisions shouldn't need cheap internal speakers.
Those customers bought an expensive television for a reason, because they care about picture quality---most likely to invest in better sound equipment.
What TV legs did you use for this review? Thanks
We used a 3rd party stand we bought a few years ago for a different TV!
I’ve been seeing some users saying that their lg tvs have issues with wifi connectivity. Have you heard anything or seen anything in your tests?
Unfortunately, this isn’t an issue we encountered. Sorry about that!
Lovely.
I wanted to buy the G2 77 inches, but in Brazil it will only come in 65, would the C2 77 inches be a good choice?
C2-77 is excellent and definitely the best value for the money I actually own 2 C2-65 and 1 G2-77
Color volume, not gamut is actually lower on the G2 compared to the G1. Simply because LG is boosting the white pixel to achieve the higher peak nits. This results in color dilution in the specular highlights and will not look as good as the G1. P3 color volume on G1 was 86%, vs 78% on the G2 according to RTINGS.
So, you are claiming the Sony A90J with 78.5% colour volume is an inferior tv ? ... hmm ... no, I don't agree
Surely that's only when it reaches those peak nits? When in darker scenes, e.g. 300 nits or less, I would assume it must be the same. Either way, I'll take the higher brightness levels over slightly less colour volume any day. 78% is still decent and you'd only notice the difference if they were side-by-side. The boost in brightness compared to the G1 is significant.
@@cun7us Fully agreeing to your point ... although imho you are quite indulgent with these colour volume junkies ;-) ... because 300 nits actually is not a dark scene but a bright scene ... most movies' average luminance is below 150 nits throughout.
So, what you are describing correctly ... is even far less relevant in rl !
I guess THIS also is the reason why no other calibrator and reviewer (except Rtings) measures colour volume on tvs !
i wish you'd said the last line first! Getting another C2 then ;)
He fails to mention the addition of a heatsink in the G2 vs C2 which directly affects its ability to push higher brightness levels. C2 still amazing but wont get the same amazing brightness levels of the G2 for an OLED.
is there a rumor going around that the 2023 LG OLED TV'S will be even brighter than the 2022. Are they planning for this increase in brightness already
Hey Michael,
It's possible this is true, but we haven't heard anything yet. So, it might be best not to cling to heavily to this rumour until more information comes out (it's probably too early to say what's going to happen in 2023).
I don't know if you can help but i got the LG C9 is it worth upgrading to the LG G2, can you see the difference.
Although they deliver very similar picture quality overall, the LG G2 OLED is a bit better than the LG C9 OLED. The G2 is a lot brighter, especially with HDR content, so really bright highlights in some scenes stand out better. On the other hand, the C9 is a bit more versatile, as it includes a stand, whereas the G2 is designed to be wall-mounted and doesn't come with a stand.
So honestly, if you're still happy with your C9, it may not be worth the extra cost. But that's a personal choice though!
Where can I get the third party tv stand I want to get a g2 65 inch and set it on my table :( please help I want some stable legs on this thing
This specific stand was actually something we got with another TV a few years back and it happened to be compatible in this case. You should be able to find some options on Amazon or other retailers though!
any review for samsung AU7000 ? and how it differ from AU8000
Unfortunately, we don't have any current plans to review the AU7000. We also don't typically go back and review TVs from previous years, sorry about that!
Hello" what is the name of that stand your using ?
www.amazon.ca/Support-universel-%C3%A9crans-mat%C3%A9riel-STAND-TV00Y/dp/B01N0VNIA9/
I have a LG C8. Will the LG G2 be a significant improvement in terms of picture and brightness?
Picture quality is pretty similar over as they both display perfect inky blacks with perfect uniformity in a dark room.
However, the G2 is a lot brighter, especially in HDR, and bright highlights stand out much better. Hope that helps!
how about the c1 77in vs the c2 77in what ones better i need to know asap please
The C2 is slightly better over, although the performance of the two is quite similar. The C2 is a bit brighter, especially in SDR and when displaying small, bright highlights in HDR. It also has a slightly wider color gamut but worse tone mapping, so it doesn't respect the creator's intent as well. The C2 also has slightly improved smart features, including a new hands-free voice control feature, and the smart interface now supports user profiles, meaning you can customize the user experience to each member of your family. That said, it may also help to check out our detailed comparison which you can see here: www.rtings.com/tv/tools/compare/lg-c1-oled-vs-lg-c2-oled/21421/31229?usage=1&threshold=0.10
Hello, how much this Tv cost in Canada? I cannot find the prices for some reason
You can find it on Amazon.ca for 3.5K www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B09RMLPCSX?tag=rtings-c-tv-20&ie=UTF8
Does the heatsink helps to avoid the burn in issues?
We've been seeing a lot of reports that the new OLEDs do a better job with burn-in prevention. So, yes, that should be the case. However, we don't currently have our own data to confirm this, so we can't say for sure. Sorry about that!
what is vignetting in the corners and pink tint..is it that bad or should I go with the sony a80j or a80k?
Vignetting is when the corners of the screen appear darker than the rest of it (almost like black blotches in the corners). There's very little vignetting on the unit we purchased though. If you'd like you can read more about this situation in the gray uniformity section of our review! www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/lg/g2-oled
As for you options, we haven't tested the A80K yet, so we can't say how it compares since we don't have our own data. As for the other two options, the LG G2 OLED and the Sony A80J OLED deliver very similar picture quality overall, but the LG is a bit better for most users. It's a bit brighter in SDR and a lot brighter in HDR, so bright highlights stand out a bit better. On the other hand, the Sony TV has better processing, with better tone mapping and smoother gradients, so it's a bit better for cinephiles. There's also a big design difference between them, as the Sony comes with a stand, whereas the LG is designed to be wall-mounted and doesn't include one. So, these are all things to consider!
@@RTINGSdotcom Hopefully the updated panel of the A80K can bridge the gap closer to the G2/A90J. Then there’s the 2nd Gen XR chip to consider, which sounds really good so far. I’m trying to decide what the best WOLED of the year is so far, the G2 or the A80K we know nothing about.
Is it safe to keep OLED at 80-100% Brightness watching HDR content and during the day in bright room?
The setting "OLED Light" has no impact on HDR at all ... it only affects SDR reproduction. HDR content is always reproduced with the tv automatically has switched to 100% light output ... any HDR capable tv does this.
Therefore ... Yes, it is safe for HDR ... and you can leave it as well at 100% for watching SDR, because in SDR you anyway get (reduced) max. 50% of the brightness compared to HDR mode.
the ultimate stand for the beast super oled flagship tv ,
Is the mounting bracket the same as the G1?
Yes both are vesa 300x300, so you can use the same mount!
I am between LG G2 and LG C2 , LG C3 . Which one should i buy
Personalized buying advice is something our experts offer via our insider forums! www.rtings.com/forums/insider-advice otherwise we have lots of self service tools and recommendation articles that may be helpful!
Is the lg g2 wall mount good and safe or should I buy another mount?
No one talks about that
We didn’t notice any issues with ours. It felt sturdy and safe.
Are there any difference in overall brightness or peak brightness between the G2 and C2 in 83 inch sizes? Other CZcams videos online are reporting that there aren’t any, because at this size the G2 is limited to draw the same power as the C2 because of maximum power consumption regulations in EU. I hope you guys can answer this question 🙏🏻
Hey Kristesen,
Unfortunately, we can only speak to the sizes of the units we purchased, not the 83". Without having our own data, we wouldn't want to speculate and risk giving you incorrect information. You can see the brightness comparison for our units here though! www.rtings.com/tv/tools/compare/lg-g2-oled-vs-lg-c2-oled/31238/31229?usage=1&threshold=0.10
I'm interested to buy an OLED, but I don't know what to choose between this G2 from LG and Sony A80k ? 65" both. Can you tell me which one is better in terms of picture quality? From what I've seen in other reviews, LG seems better at this point, also for gaming too.
The LG G2 OLED is better overall than the Sony A80K OLED. While they both deliver the same fantastic dark room performance, the LG gets much brighter, allowing highlights to pop more in HDR. If you're a gamer, you'll also be happy to know the LG has lower input lag for a more responsive feel. Hope this helps!
@@RTINGSdotcom thank you so much for your prompt response! I will choose G2 🍻
The G2 has minimal upgrades from the G1 of last year. I have the 65 inch G1 and after a year, it really is a TV you would own in 2022. The G1 is bright enough in my opinion. Why spend $3200 on the 65 inch G2 when you can get a 65 inch G1 for $1000 cheaper?
That's a fair point! There aren't many significant differences between them, but the LG G2 OLED is a bit better overall than the LG G1 OLED. It's a lot brighter, especially when displaying small, bright highlights in HDR and it also has slightly improved smart features, including hands-free voice control and an updated smart interface that now supports multiple user profiles. Finally, the G2's HDMI ports support 48Gbps bandwidth instead of the 40Gbps limit on the G1. But, for most people, it maybe not be worth paying the extra price!
Don't forget that the g1 still has 120hz bfi and the g2 or c2 have only 60hz bfi
@@naz4u83 great Pakistan !!
G1 HDMI 2.1 is only *40Gbs* bandwidth (G2 has full 48Gbs)
G2 is brighter with a *heatsink* (reduces burn-in risk & heat quicker)
Currently a 65-inch G2 is around $2,100
@@94fleetwood49 40 gbps is plentiful to pass 4K @ 120 Hz. You don’t need the full 48 gbps. Higher bandwidth would only be necessary if somehow the TV supported a higher resolution or refresh rate.
Since 40 gbps is more than enough to support the highest bandwidth necessary to display the highest resolution and refresh rate on the panel, as well as any audio supported, then it just doesn’t need to be any higher.
Can you review the entry lineup sony X80K series?
We have! You can see our review here: www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/sony/x80k
@@RTINGSdotcom Thanks
After checking s95b, they will be forced to re-evaluate the asumption.
I have 2 oleds
My 65in c8 does have some burn in thr thr ad sign on hulu.
Still love them but burn in is a real thing
@CONSOLES GUY. That exact same thing was said about the C8 against the C6.
@@absolutium And ... which was proven to be correct by the much higher number of burn in cases on C6 and C7 models relative to the C8 !
Technical improvements are coming in (sometimes small) steps, but it never stops ... especially the new panels from 2021 and 2022 represent a massive step in this regard (which the C8 of course doesn't use).
whats better then g2 77in or c2 77in foreverything and gaming
Honestly, the G2 and the C2 offer nearly identical performance, but there are some important design differences. The G2 is a bit brighter overall, especially when displaying small, bright areas in HDR, but the difference is minor. On the other hand, unlike the G2, which is designed to be wall-mounted, the C2 includes a stand, giving you a bit more versatility out of the box. At the end of the day though, you can't go wrong with either option and you shouldn't be disappointed either way!
What stand did you use?
We used a 3rd party stand that we purchased off amazon a few years back!
Guys can I use a different tv stand for this ? They sell some on Amazon which uses the VESA holes
The stand we used is actually a third part stand, so yes, you can use other stands for this TV!
@@RTINGSdotcom Can you please tell us what that stand is for the 65" G2? Thanks.
How does it compare to the Samsung QD OLED?
We’re still wrapping up our testing so we can’t say for sure yet. Our results should be available in the next few days though so stay tuned 👀
What tv should I buy! The lg g2 or the sony a80k? Can u guy's help out
Hey Gerry! We consider the LG G2 OLED to be better overall than the Sony A80K OLED. While they both deliver the same fantastic dark room performance, the LG gets much brighter, allowing highlights to pop more in HDR. If you're a gamer, you'll also be happy to know the LG has lower input lag for a more responsive feel. Hope this helps! If you're looking for more info though, feel free to check out this comparison. www.rtings.com/tv/tools/compare/lg-g2-oled-vs-sony-a80k-oled/31238/31219?usage=1&threshold=0.10
Can you tell my wife I should buy it? She won’t believe me.
When i got my c9 oled and as she wasnt very happy at first,but once we started watching content she was ok with it and actually looks forward to it seeing the amazing picture it has.
Same 97” please
@@bossmodl3thalpoppa484 lol I actually have a 77” CX and like you, wife was upset at first then grew to love the TV after a while 🤣
Bless my wife. She lets me do as i please as long as she gets her book cases and loungy read-y chair
Just bought 65 G2 now for $2600
I will say it’s open box g1 for $1000
If she or her friends ask’s
Please share link of your TV Stand
www.rtings.com/tv/discussions/OrJCra0Ee7TsNx2j/oled-g2-3rd-party-stand
Why isn't there a simple decent stand for this to place it almost flush with the surface it's standing on? eg: Like my current LG E7?
This TV us designed to be mounted since it’s part of the “gallery series”. So it suts flush to the wall when mounted!
@@RTINGSdotcom @RTINGS com Understood, but for those of us who don't want to wall mount it and still want the top performance of the G2? Do LG what us to buy a Sony instead? Simply because they can't design a good stand for it?
Will there be a Samsung S95B review soon?
Absolutely! Our team worked very hard last week trying to finish up our testing. We expect our results to be available in the next few days! 😊
Hey, is this tv as good as the samsung s95b??
In this case, we'd recommend checking out our comparison between both of these models: www.rtings.com/tv/tools/compare/lg-g2-oled-vs-samsung-s95b-oled/31238/32382?usage=1&threshold=0.10 If it's still unclear or you have specific questions though, don't hesitate to follow up!
Is the G2 at 55 inches brighter then the C2 at 55in?
We expect our review to be applicable to other sizes as well, so they should be comparable at 55''. The only thing worth noting is that the smaller sizes (42/48) likely have lower peak brightness!
Looks nice.... Buuut... When will you review the QD-OLEDs?😛
We’re hoping to have our results published sometime this early week! 😊
Waiting for sony x95k review...if everything goes right with that tv then I might ditch my sony x90f for that
from what i have seen, it will stack up to be an amazing tv. Backlight master drive is really doing its job right
@@Zoranurai13 is backlight masterdrive on the x95j from 2021?
@@supaahflyy no. Z9k and x95k
@@Zoranurai13 I'm not a massive tv enthusiast so pardon the ignorance. Is backlight master drive a big thing and theoretically a big improvement on the x95j?
I ask this because I was waiting for the new ones to come out so I could buy the x95j on discount/clearance
Keep in mind dat u cant use local dimming with Vrr on. So u have to sacrifice the major selling point of the Tv while Gaming. So the X95k isnt a Tv for gamers sadly.
Lg g2 the way to go...if you have 3k .. damn
Is Lg G1 and C1 hdmi 2.1 48gbps or still 40gbps after all those firmware updates?
As far as we know, still 40gbps. If anyone here’s otherwise though, don’t hesitate to let us know!
As far as I know it is a hardware limitation for CX/C1 ... history:
1. LG introduced four HDMI 2.1 at 48gbps in 2019 (C9) ... by using an additional dedicated HDMI chipset
2. in 2010 LG (for cost and complexity reasons) replaced the separate chipset by including the HDMI functionality into their own main SOC ... but they seem to have faced difficulties in recovering the full bandwidth ... hence having to limit it to 40gbps.
3. in 2022 they finally got their SOC-design improved to deliver the full bandwidth of 48gbps on all 4 ports (like the C9 back then)
Bottom line: CX and C1 seem to have a hardware limitation with their HDMI implementation in LG's SOC ... therefore a firmware update can't fix it ... CX/C1 will stay with 40gbps (which for sure is sufficient for any usecase out there ... so)
LG has never shied away from fixing their TV OS with updates. If there’s an issue they will fix it or add to it. So y’all relax, keep that energy for Sony and Samsung
can they fix the tone mapping? sheesh
Will QLED OLED by Samsung be the best OLEDS now?
From what I've seen, pretty much yeah!
It’s definitely possible, we’ve heard very good things. Our results should be available sometjme this week though, so stay tuned 👀
If you're okay with overblown, oversaturated colors and a complete lack of Dolby Vision support, then yes.
Why is LG's precalibration score such a mess every year. The G1 had a higher 8.4 score last year and the C1 was a 4.5.
All other calibrators I am usually checking out are using "Filmmaker Mode" and are reporting the G2 to be extremely accurate with an avg. DeltaE below 0.5 ootb ... which is outstanding.
I assume as Rtings are using "Cinema Mode" with "Peak Brightness" set to max. they received 230 nits more brightness on the G2 (1165 i/o 933) ... but at the cost of noticeably reduced accuracy !?
Stand got the TV reminding me of spongebob lol
😂
I don't get your reflection handling scores. The TV is a mirror and produces distracting reflections with anything that's behind you, even closed curtains and stuff.
The Samsung ones barely make those visible at all, and they get similar scores.
@v cam i think it’s really hard to quantify objectively. But i agree. There are also different ways to do reflection handling.
A very aggressive matte absorbtive coating destroys *perceived* contrast in a bright room. But it handles reflections well
A horizontal diffusion coating (like samsung) semi diffuses light, but turns them into annoying rainbows.
Shiny glossy screens give the most vibrant image but you can see yourself even in a bright room.
There is no clear winner
@@Zoranurai13 I fully agree ... trying to press everything into a single number will never be correct ... small but nice (and important) differences just vanish in this number ... making it anything but not objective.
@@marcuscole8796 yep i mean when did someone say “wow the colors really come to life” on a pc monitor? Literally no one. Why? Because they are completely matted
@@Zoranurai13 Exactly ... and your claim "There is no clear winner" is (always) spot on ... these reflection coatings and layers are always a compromise (sacrificing one benefit at the cost of another one) ... and it basically comes down to the indivdual preference of which of the compromise you like (or need) more !
Because of this, putting a value to it ... which falsely results in "one is better than the other" ... is somewhat wrong and misleading.
There are probably implementations having the identical target ... and one does achieve it better than the other ... then this needs to be judged and communicated verbally ... but a number doesn't help here either ... imho :-)
Hey all,
We just wanted to take this opportunity to chime in here and thank you for all the feedback. We're always looking for ways to improve our testing, so we appreciate you sharing your thoughts with us. Honestly, this is good feedback and I think it highlights an area in which we can improve. So, this has been shared with our display teams and we'll make sure to carefully consider it as we work on our newest test bench update!
So is the G2 a better gaming tv than the C2?
Both TVs are excellent gaming options and the difference is marginal (for the most part). So, it may just come down to whether or not you plan on mounting it. Either way, it may also help to check out this comparison between both TVs: www.rtings.com/tv/tools/compare/lg-g2-oled-vs-lg-c2-oled/31238/31229?usage=1038&threshold=0.10
@@RTINGSdotcomI always mount my gaming tvs in my room but I was also thinking of getting the C1 just because they’re cheaper. Although I probably won’t get another tv for awhile so the C2 might lower in price by then
How do you order the stand? I do not want to hang it!
www.lg.com/ca_en/tv-accessories/lg-fs21gb You can buy the stand on LGs website or there are also third part stands you can find online. Just make sure you do your research before purchasing (especially if you go the 3rd party stand route)!
The 2022 LG accessoiries are not listed yet on their homepage(s) ... including the all new G2 stand ... in the meantime or when in a hurry you can go for a (nice glass plate) 3rd party stand like e.g. on Amazon a e.g. "FITUEYES" stand ... these are $50 for 55" and $68 for a 65" stand and very robust as long as you get the matching size.
(I've seen them being used on the G2 on another YT channel and asked for wobbliness ... I got the reponse the stand easily handles the weight and there are is no wobbling or other issues. Nevertheless the variety is large out there ... means: a lot of options to choose from)
@@marcuscole8796 thanks Marcus. I see the stands on Amazon. How do you know if the holes match up to the TV? Each TV is different.
@@gosman949 You're welcome ... These stands are all using the VESA mount ... which is standardised.
You just need to check whether your tvs specific VESA mount (e.g. 300x200 or 300x300) is covered in the stand's range you are going to buy ... it's written in the stands descriptions.
You'll most probably also find installation/instruction videos on YT ... which will answer all your questions I am convinced.
Samsung QD OLED review please!
We’re doing our best to publish our results ASAP stay tuned 👀👀
Where is C2 review?
Our full review can be found on our website, but we’re hoping to get the video up by the end of the week! 😊 www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/lg/c2-oled
I recommend the G2 over the A90J. It’s the best TV overall and not overpriced compared to the launch prices of A90J last year
Ok.... and how about vs the S95b
@@fepethepenguin8287 unfortunately I haven’t laid eyes on the S95B in person to have an opinion. I’ve only seen it on CZcams which is someone else’s perspective
And what about motion handling, gamma curve and tone mapping. Stay away from LG.
@@justdev8965 the most tv viewers, non super technical av enthusiasts won’t even notice that. Future proof Features, always trumps that.
@@justdev8965 no
Brighter than the s95b?
We hadn’t tested the S95B at the time of this video, but our results should be available early this week! 👀👀
You guys need to figure out a new rating system. Without a question of a doubt the QN90B and QN85B look substantially better than last years “A” models.
This isn’t even a debate and actually makes you question the entire rating system.
Looking at all tvs side by side even the QN85B looks much better than the QN90A, yet Rtings rating system does not reflect this.
Judging a tv by its “Native” contrast without local dimming is a Crime…….
We just wanted to reach out and say we really appreciate the feedback. The situation between the QN90B and QN90A has given us a lot to discuss and we're in the process of exploring different options. So, thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts with us. In the mean time, if you have any other questions or concerns, please don't hesitate to reach out!
Where is that stand from ?
We reused an old stand that we bought for the Samsung the Terrace 2020! www.amazon.ca/Support-universel-%C3%A9crans-mat%C3%A9riel-STAND-TV00Y/dp/B01N0VNIA9/
Thank you 😊
I see that you are biased towards me Lg. Samsung this year is a fee for updates on the screen of the year, however, it was evaluated by you, with a lower rating. I hope you rate me fairly.
Thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts with us. If you could elaborate on what makes you feel this way, we'd appreciate any additional information you could provide. At the end of the day, it's very important to us that our reviews represent the same experience every user would get when buying a product. So, we actually make sure to buy and review all of our own products and don't accept any sort of incentive in exchange for a favorable review. We also employ a data drive objective testing approach in order to mitigate the risk of any bias having a factor. So, all that being said, we'd like to take this opportunity to reassure you that our reviews are based on objective testing and you don't need to worry about bias or any other factors influencing them!
S95B please!
Stay thned, we’re hoping to publish our results this week 👀
Because of reflectivity real world contrast and black levels are tragic as seen in this youtube video.
Is ABL a feature on all OLED tv's? If so, can it be shut off? Will doing so void a warranty?
ABL protects the tv fom getting destroyed ... it can't be switched off.
ASBL on the other side you CAN deactivate (only on LG tvs tho) ... by going into the service menu and deactivating TPC and GSR.
But of course this will be recorded in the tv and will void your warranty.
@@marcuscole8796 Thanks for the response. Maybe I’ll stick with QLEDs until this is resolved.
@@mikecinema7443 You're welcome ... but I'm confused now: what do you mean by "...until this is resolved" ?
LCD tvs also have ABL, but the restriction of the most expensive/powerful ones is at 650 nit (i/o around 170 nits OLED) and around 400 nits for mid-tier ... hence "only" less obvious and noticeable than on OLED tvs.
It is very unlikely OLED tvs will hit 400 nits soon (or ever) with ABL at max (100% white full field).
@@marcuscole8796 I’ve never noticed it on any LED tv. And mine get pretty bright. Is this feature noticeable on OLED? Does it prevent HDR?
@@mikecinema7443 Maybe I explained it insufficiently: ABL is not a feature, it's a technical measure to prevent tvs from overheating and getting destroyed. Look at it as a "emergency brake" if that helps.
And No, it doesn't prevent HDR ... in the worst case ... like an extremely bright (close to being entirely white) scene in 16:9 (= using the entire screen area) ... it will noticeably reduce the APL (Average Picture Level = avg. brightness on scene) ... HDR will still be there ... but not as impressive as before due to the limited peak brightness.
These scenes are extremely rare in movies ... hence you can't notice them often ... and if there is such a scene it usually only lasts for a few seconds and the tv goes back into a brighter mode.
In addition many movies are in cinemascope format ... your tv shows the typical upper and lower cinemascope bars (which do not need electrical current on an OLED tv) ... means: the entire screen area is never used. Therefore ABL never has to be used in the max and noticeable level.
But I heard from gamers that HDR games are showing these extremely bright scenes much more often than movies ... and ... games are always in 16:9 ... that's why it can be actually distracting with these 16:9 HDR games.
It's the same on LCD tvs ... but ... as I tried to explain ... LCD tvs - when ABL is activated at max level - are still 2 to 4 times brighter than OLED tvs. So, even if ABL kicks in on your LCD tv it still remains that bright you would rather squint or close your eyes for a short time instead of getting the impression it has dimmed.
Hence your feeling like never having noticed it on your LCD tv (although it was there^^)
QD OLED is only option for season 2022 if someone needs 55 and 65" high end TV
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Perhaps the upcoming Sony, but it will probably be even more overpriced than their other high end TVs. As for the Samsung s95b, only if you like overblown, cartoonish colors and are okay with the lack of Dolby Vision support.
@Bzake Watch HDTVTests review of the s95b for context. Also, no Dolby Vision support. Butturt? No. As a former CET, I wouldn't own a Samsung TV if it were given to me free of charge.
There is no way the C2 and G2 has the same score, and now way S95b is only up by a .1 score.
Hey there,
What makes you feel like the scoring doesn't accurately represent the TVs performance? We're always looking for ways to improve, so if you have any specific examples or feedback, we'd love to hear it!
People are nuts for asking 1000 nits for a TV. All this obsession with high nit OLEDs is gonna f their eyes up. At 600 to 700 at night, my eyes get hurt. I hated my qled for the all those nits
What’s happened to Daniel?
He’s still here!!
LG OLED #1
PS5 and XSX cant do native 4K but it seems these consoles are outputting a 4K120hz signal. Although resolution is not at what TV menu says its at.
Great video on G2! All I needed to hear is that its hitting 1000 nits.
They can absolutely do native 4k idk what you’re on about
@@jayroman3384 from Xbox One x days where are these people get their info from I swear
OPI Xbox controllers are awesome!
This is the brightest oled we've ever tested!
QD oled: Hold my beer. 😏
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Samsung QD OLED: Also here's some inaccurate color saturation for you!
@@TimHesse yeah that's cool if you're the percentage of people that want that absolute hundred percent color accuracy. Other than that the Samsung qd-oled will satisfy 98% of people. It's by no means perfect and definitely need some improvement in that area but I'd rather save $1,000 over the Sony any day for a little bit of color and inaccuracy
Agreed but they need a 77”
@@dtbrown1978 The S95B boosts brightness up to +50% ... I wouldn't call this "a little bit".
Besides that this "percentage of people" prefers to see what the movie director saw on the screen ... not what Samsung thinks it should look like.
In other words: "creator's intent" is always better than "manufacturer's intent" !
For all others: Feel free to choose whatever you like (... even when got scammed by a company who is violating a fantastic and promising technology)
WOLED is dead for me. PLEASE REVIEW THE S95B!!!
We are!! Our results should be available early this week 👀
What are these mysterious table stand legs everyone knows about but me? Company name even?
LG sells a stand for the G2 on their website but the one we used in this video was an old stand we purchased a few years back that also worked for this TV. We don't recall what TV it came from though, sorry about that!
Walmart sells legs like the ones they used in the video for under $20.
@@tywanjames4427 Thanks J. I ended up getting one with legs from a competitor.
@@vinniethefinger7781 I got a swivel stand from Amazon for $26
Just be careful when installing flush mounts if you need the serial number or need to get to the back of the tv good luck
S95B is brighter but it is QD-OLED.
Where do you have your S95B measurements from ... proving what you claim here ?
I have the s95b. It's brighter. You need to see it in person. It really is something. Bright like an led, with oled contrast and black levels. Best looking picture I have seen. My Xsx looks great on it.
@@scottzimmer3594 lol ... what you are noticing is the higher (and false) APL of the S95B which is driven by Samsung's overbrighten and oversaturating strategy.
But APL is NOT showing how bright small specular highlights can get ... means what the real brightness capability of a tv is.
Still also you have no measurement proving anything ... hence your statement means nothing at all ... except for you fell into Samsung's trap of showing you distorted overbrightenend pictures with DTM always "on" !
Let me guess you watched Vincent's video?
@@scottzimmer3594 Not quite ... I am usually getting my measurements from Phil Hinton, Vincent Teoh and here ... but in this case I am more referring to the diagrams VT posted at AVSForum (diagrams made by him and two other calibrators) which also include G2 with and without DTM activated for comparison.
And tbh Samsung's philosophy is not new ... they just brought it to a much higher level this year !
He says Hate-DR and Hate-DMI 😂
Some people find the accent charming!😂
The QD oled surpasses the G2 on every level. On the G2 the white subpixel is pushed to achieve higher brightness, but even that can't beat the brightness and color gamut / volume from QD oled
I heard the qled's over saturate the colors because its so bright
Wondering where you got your claim from ... I haven't seen any calibrated measurements from a QD-OLED tv yet.
As all four white subpixels are achieving the identical brightness of 1,165 nits ... it's easy to calculate with the wellknown 50% luminance loss of LG's colour filter.
The result is the G2 achieves 582 nits with pure RGB ... which is by far more than enough for any content out there.
@@marcuscole8796 Literally all over CZcams the QD OLED can achieve 1500nits
Just simply search it
@@NexGenTek These 1500 nits are the identical BS like the 1300 nits of the A90J last year ... forget it, these 1500 nit mean nothing at all !
I already searched the calibrators/reviewers I usually get my measurements from ... all of them just received a sample ... currently they do the 100hr "run in" on them ... measurements are NOT available yet !
As you seem to have got one ... post a link or provide the channel name.
@@marcuscole8796 I don't post videos anymore I can if you want. But no it's not BS it can achieve 1500nits in every preset not just dynamic mode or vivid like the A90J with a higher full screen brightness as well. Classy Tech has measurements. Quantum Tv has measurements hell even Vincent measured 1600 nits. It's true and it's absolutely amazing!!
For the price of the TV, the tone mapping is really inexcusable. It is way too inaccurate. The tv doesn't even come with 3gb of internal storage either. The ram and storage is Walmart level.
The risk of burn-in is a deal breaker for me. I know from experience of owning an OLED and have some substantial burn-in. It doesn't show up really during dark scenes..... but during bright scenes, it sticks out like a sore thumb.
What was your tv ? C7, A1E or older ?
@@marcuscole8796 It's a C6P model... from 2017 I think. I still have it and it's my main living room tv. But the burn-in threat is real. I have another older LG tv in my bedroom 1080P non-OLED, and that screen still looks remarkable.... no burn-in whatsoever..... and that television is from 2011. When I eventually replace the living room tv, it will not be with another OLED unless they seriously address and fix the burn-in issue. There are plenty of other non-OLED tv's out there for less money and even if the contrast ratio isn't as good as OLED, they still look great.
@@talon1976 That's the reason why I was asking. Your model is a 2016 model ... these are wellknown for being slightly prone to burn in issues.
I am using a C7 (2017) for 5 years now and it's slightly more robust than your 2016 model, but after 16,300 hrs I now have very faint burn in marks on mine.
You can't see them when watching normal content (yet), but from time to time I am checking for burn in with red and magenta testscreens.
The number of "hours used" is important ... I have an avg. use time per day of 9 hrs ... which seems to be on the intensive side imho (maybe more than your C6).
In 2018 the OLED tvs already made a massive step in robustness ... check it out for yourself: it's hard to find a "burned" C8 or C9 online. If you find one you can easily notice 95% of these got burn in due to heavy misuse (shapes of the burn in marks ... like "CNN" banners and/or centered reporter shapes).
OLED are improving permanently year-by-year on "burn in robustness" through changes in material, production process and panel software.
In 2021 and 2022 a massive step was made with the so-called "evo"-panels (using the more robust deuterium instead of hydrogen).
Bottom line:
Your C6 and my C7 are well known for being somewhat prone to burn in ... the models 2018+ were much more resistant to this uneven wear. For 2021 and 2022 "burn in" turned into a "no issue" which is widely acknowledged this way by all experts.
You also have to keep in mind several millions of OLED tvs have been sold since ... and only the very few having had issues are reporting them ... the millions having no issues have no reason to report this in the internet !
that is why LG has a 5 year warranty on their panels! They stand behind them!
@@gosman949 Fully agreed...
so today after an update Ican no longer access any smart feature on my tv because I refuse to accept their outrageous terms and conditions. Well down LG , I will nrver be buying another product from you ever.
You people say get a OLED.
Then they say all these problems.
On the c1 i looked at. at a angle i noticed a lightest blue hue at the far side wile looking at the angle.
My buddy said he thinks it's going away after a month of owning one.
I don't want a expensive TV that may suffer with a problem like burn in. Sometimes I plan on getting a new one. About to get one. Then change my mind. Many years later i still have it. See what i am getting at.
Since it's an OLED, it does come with the risk of burn-in. But, we don't expect most people to have to worry about it, especially if they watch varied content and don't display lots of content with static images. Plus, the newer OLEDs seem to do a better job at combatting burn-in. I get where you're coming from though, and not everyone wants to have this worry in the back of their mind. That said, if you're looking for a suggestion or have any other questions or concerns, don't hesitate to follow up with us!
@@RTINGSdotcom YOu think the blue tint at the other end wehn looking at angle is normal?
IDK. He said he under warranty for exchange. It's really the web browser bash white. The pure white from text and the painting on the TV itself are ok otherwise.
Tv looks pretty nice.
IDK why doesn't just scan work in PC mode? it's kinda off on over scan.
Not a big problem. The text near the the ends are very close.
The tcl i had did just fit and fit the screen perfect.
IDK what happen to isf expert in PC mode. maybe a setting he changed that deactivate it?
@@Deltax5 You're a lucky man ... the tint from viewing at an angle is known to be an indication you are having the improved panel installed in your C1 (called "evo panel" by the AV community ... using deuterium instead of hydrogen which makes the panel more efficient and robust).
You can benefit from less power consumption, less image retention, close to zero burn in risc and increased longevity...
@@marcuscole8796 I think it's getting better. Man I just bought it. Asked for a fresh one at Best Buy. It's kinda bothersome. Idk maybe I should sit more back...
@@marcuscole8796 it kind of ruins the experience. It's ok in pure white like in the portrets lg provides. But a web browser bashe white you notice it.
The default web browser has the black theme by default. I just sit here and hope it gets less noticeable over time with weire.
If not next tv ill go without something that is less headahch. Other then that it's pretty ok.
Input lag was the reason i bought this tv.
We will see what tv ill get next. Won't be for a long time thou. Something that doesn't bother me wile watching. KThe mediem grade tv's will probably perform just as good by then in 8 years or so.
I guess you've not tested the Samsung oled TV for you to say that
Our review for the S95B we purchased is available on our website now, but we hadn’t tested it when this video was published. So, you’re right!
Ratings are back in buisness
I don’t trust these guys testing methodology. I’ve not seen one other review saying these G2 can get over 1000 nits
Thanks for the feedback!
For what it's worth, we do offer some insight on our testing here: www.rtings.com/tv/tests/picture-quality/peak-brightness so it may be worth having a look. If there are specific parts you think we can improve on, feel free to let us know. It may also be worth checking out the HDR brightness section of our full review because we go over the settings we used and talk about their impact in the text. Either way, don't hesitate to share any additional thoughts you might have as we're always looking for ways to improve!
Rtings used "Cinema Mode" and "Peak Brightness" set to "HIGH" ... all others so far used (the more accurate) "Filmmaker Mode" and "Peak Brightness" deactivated ... hence the difference