Sicily to Rome onboard Trenitalia DELUXE sleeper : Mixed experience
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- čas přidán 2. 07. 2020
- EUROPEAN TRAIN TRIP #5
Hi everyone, welcome to this trip report bound to Roma with FS Intercity Notte, the famous train on a ferry and that time ... on Deluxe sleeper!
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- TRIP INFORMATION -
Railway company: FS Intercity Notte
Train type : UIC-X/T3S + E656
From : Siracusa to Roma Termini
N° of train: ICN1562
Duration : 12h06
Price : 110€ (Booked 1 day before departure)
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It was wonderful to remember my first and only trip from Catania to Florence back in 1996. At that time the train looked much worse and all the cabins were full; military service was still compulsory in Italy, so young soldiers went crazy on the train.
In addition to this memory, it was a pleasure to enjoy another video of yours, especially today when Covid-19 captured us in our places of residence. Thank you, thank you, thank you from the bottom of my heart!
Sorry to hear that the conductor wasn't polite. I will apologise on his behalf 🇮🇹
Normally for italian conductor. They learn how to handle customer from their bosses. They are not able to understand customer pay their salary but they also know you don't have other choice.
I’ve been looking forward to this one for a long time!!!!
By the looks of things, they added the third bunk where the roof insulation should be - hence why you were being roasted alive (or frozen in winter!).
No, Trenitalia doen't belive in overnight trains. They tryed to candelled all of them many times, but "unfortunatly" those trains are considered as minimum services for some parts of the country, like Siracusa, so they could not cancel those trains
That' s true.....up to 10 years ago tranitalia offered lot's of night trains. From 2011 they cut a lot of them leaving just the minimum with an higher level ,so not seat couchette and WL accomodation with 1st and 2nd class anymore, but the new refurbished basic, confort and deluxe class, but only 1 couple of train for every link....maybe the other States leaved even less night trains....
@@beppe-RmT0 Austria has many night trains. France and Germany are shutting them down. Northern Europe countries are going to create new night trains.
So glad to see your video, because we will go on a Budapest-Vienna-Rome-Cefalú-Pisa-Venezia rail trip next week :D
A decent trick to try and assess if you get other people in your compartment is to count things like water bottles, goodie bags, bed linnen, etc. I saw only one goody bag, so that generally means no other guests are joining.
I made the same heat experience like you, in a 6-person couchette compartment as I travelled from Zürich to Hamburg in April 2019. It was nearly impossible to fall into sleep in the upper couchette especially because the AC were not really working.
Vidéo parfaite et j’adore la nouvel intro ❤️
Love this trip and your channel in general! Hope I can make this journey soon 🙏😊🤞
Nice work on the small title clip in the beginning. Great video as well👍👍😊😊
I discovered this channel last week, I wish I did it earlier!
A question: have you ever thought of adding a quick recap at the end of each video with the pros and cons of your experience on that train and maybe a sort of rating about it (like "good", "really good", "disappointed"...)?
Thanks!
That's an interesting idea :)
I would really appreciate this 👍. Awesome idea!
Terrific Trip you had!
I used the Trenitalia sleeper last week between Turin and Salerno en route to Sicily and did the ferry crossing in daylight. All fantastic, but on the return journey the sleeper coach was closed and I was given a couchette - which is 'sleeping' on a hard seat, and no sink. I've asked Trenitalia how often this happens. I'd take lots of sleepers across Europe, but not if I'm not getting what I paid for. Also I know what you mean about heat, my cabins were hot in October... Re conductors the guy on the outward trip was lovely, but the one on the return sounds like yours!
Update: Trenitalia have now offered to reimburse me the difference between a sleeper compartment and a couchette.
Excelente video muy bien explicado. Muy confortable se ve la cabina. Y con aire acondicionado mejor.
Today in the covid-era all night trains give a solo-accomodation in sleepers and in coucchette with an exclusive use of compartement....the travel prices are 25-30% more expensive but you stay alone all the travel.
Wow that top bunk is tight. Reminds me of the hard-sleeper berths on Chinese trains.
Nice one Sir. Enjoyed a lot. Waiting for next video of your travel vlog
🇬🇧Nice video!
🇮🇹Bel video!
these trips and videos are beautiful. I will do a similar thing on March 16 with ETR 700
Great trip report ! I would have personally booked the room for myself . It's to bad the crew and some of the stuff was not working and leaking...
I would still like to take the sleeper from Milan south for the longer trip... :):):)
Thank you for sharing !!! :):):)
I like your shirt. Eastern Air Lines... the wings of man. :) I flew them many many countless times when I was a kid.
Epic work....Big like & respect
You want the excelsior one , the foods no different but atleast you have your own room and shower , its a great journey .
Good video ;-) Greetings from italy
This WagonLits service works just from Rome to Palermo, I dunno wether works from SR to RM. T3S wagon vektor. And the engine cab is E464 Bombardier (160 km/h)
Awesome coverage , suprised for the heaty coupe and leaky faucets.
This trip could be a great experience, but it sure didn't look like that to me! The prospect of sharing a small compartment with two strangers wouldn't appeal to me - and apparently not to others, since you were able to sleep solo. The excessive heat was unnecessary - just connect the cars to electricity a couple of hours before boarding. Leaking faucets and unclean toilets suggests poor maintenance. That "breakfast" was a joke, and having a surly conductor was the icing on the cake.
I suppose the ferry arrangement is costly for them to provide, so they cut all the corners they could. I would not recommend this to anyone.
As a person who already traveled a few times with trenitalia i can tell you this is no exception true italian fashion a lot of their trains are in bad shape and poorly maintained
As a Trenitalia worker I feel very sorry for this. Unlikely the company doesn't care really much about those kind of trains, expecially because their aim is to have more people on the "Frecce". If it isn't for the department of transportation subsidizing it, there wouldn't be sleeper trains in Italy.
Very good movie. You have done a good job.
Leaking faucets, worn-down compartments, oven-like temperature...and these coaches are supposed to be "newly refurbished"! What a disgrace. I'm sorry for the arrogant staff member...usually it happens with public workers (I always find the mail clerks really appalling, for example), you may find the younger ones more motivated, nicer and polite. You are right on the livery tho! They've done a good job. Nice video as usual.
About public workers: true enough! For a true nightmare, visit the Questura. Loved the video, though!
I've done a Paris/Venice on a semi private room with two beds nearly 20 years ago, it was a really pleasant experience.
Semi private sounds like you have to share with stranger. Better hope you don't get a serial killer or The Midnight Buggerer.
@@fman02 LOL Yes have to share with another passenger.
@@fman02 Yes exactly , I met a young girl from China and she was being harassed , by this man from Africa in her compartment . It is so disrespectful to the passengers to mix genders and with total strangers , in the same compartment .
You can hear the crickets ,..!!!!! amazinggggggg..!!!!
Oh man it seems like so many small design issues... I mean firstly it's a dark train in the blazing sun of Italy which is already a bad start, it's inefficient really.
Additionally, it always baffles me whenever anyone puts any cold-air AC at the *bottom* because we all know what kind of air rises and sinks due to density don't we? Yet this always seems to slip the minds of many a designer. This would mean to even hope for a comparable top-bunk experience, the bottom bunk would need to be fridged cold! Otherwise, this could be so good.
(Shame about the conductor ofc), but as nandervso astutely pointed out, checking to see how many Amenity kits/ water bottles is always a good way to check how many are expected. Thanks to the trip report :)
Very few people use night train in Italy because they are often more expensive than planes. Trenitalia cuts every year several night services, but some of them have to remain because the government pays (a lot) for them. So actually they don't believe in night trains. Also, some Excelsior cars were scrapped few years after their construction because they were too expensive to operate, and the remaining ones are used as couchette cars like you wrote.
Trop bien la nouvelle intro :) merci de continuer les vidéo malgré le covid, on espère que tu es en sécurite malgré la situation aux USA
It would be cool to see a video on trains in the Baltics. In Lithuania, you could try the Vilnius to Klaipėda route. 🇱🇹
The espresso and cookie was a typical Italian breakfast - where they eat very small breakfasts.
As an italian I can say that it was quite poor. They could have added at least a croissant and a fruit juice
Agree
Excellent video!
I was waiting for the review of the Deluxe Sleeper! 🛏️
Like 👍
New intro? 🤨
You should try trains in Slovakia. For example: InterCity from Bratislava to Košice - nice carriages, beautiful views. Or EuroNight from Praha to Košice.
Cannot imagine sleeping with two strangers. No matter how nice the cabins are. 😫
I just came home from my train trip to Sicily. Trenitalia learned fromde comments obviously. Airco did a decent job in Deluxe and yes, you can buy water on the train (got a second can for free) and yes, you can order food. At least from Milan to Siracusa.
You should make a video about transport in Zürich, Switzerland, be sure to go to Zurich HB and stadelhofen, and use all 3 main types of s-bahn trains (I’m saying main types because there is a fourth one only used during rush hour called the HVZ, the others are DPZ PLUS, RABe 514 and RABe 511, HVZ only drive during the week at specific times and not on weekends)
I’m commenting on this video, because I’m not sure you’re still reading comments on your older ones.
Gentilissimo!!!
Very
kind in italian sto ridendo
@@angelocirocco2385very kind in italiano vuol dire gentilissimo,,sto ridendo significa questo "😂",,,mo' hai capito!!
one amenity bag denotes one guest!
Hey nice new intro!!
Nice vidio
Greeting from Indonesia
Nice video
Just subscribed and I’m really enjoying your channel. I wonder if you sometimes speak instead of writing everything as I sometimes have to rewind as I feel I’ve missed the information while looking at the images . Loving the train travel !
I did Napoli Central to Milano 27-28 February 2020 in Deluxe coach 😊, after TGV Milano - Paris
That breakfast is so minimal! Was it possible to open the window to help with the heat? I love your witty commentary, you made me chuckle 😊
Moito lindo tren simply show gostei
Super bro 👌
Merci pour ce récit d'un voyage en WL T3, est ce que le surcoût était important par rapport à la couchette ?
I had this bad experierence with the heat on the bed at the top of the train from rijeka to munich, with the croatia railway, booked at öbb 😖
This looks like fun. My daughter and I took a German sleeper car train from Munich to Amsterdam in 2016 at the end of a Go Ahead Jewels of the Alpine tour. This train was discontinued later that year as Europe now has high speed rail to get places fast. The advantage was instead of a hotel you can sleep overnight and wake up at your next destination first thing the next morning. Your hotel can hold your luggage until later when your room is ready. I have taken an AMTRAK sleeper car a couple of times but what a price difference from coach. Glad you talked to a person instead of a machine in Sicily. Seems I always have questions. Rail fan from St. Louis
That must be a very long ferry ⛴ boat!
No, they split the train in 3.
Keren bro... mantap 👍👍😁😁
Surprised that the top bunk didn't cool down seeing as the train came in at night and should have had time to cool down some.
BTW - cool shirt you had on for Toilets Time...
Dans le Sud de l'Italie il y a des petites défaillances. C'est normal. Mais les draps de lit étaient bien propres.
Great video and good you enjoyed it however I guess you would have enjoyed it more if it wasn't so hot and kinder staff also I find it strange that your room had 3 beds out despite you being the only one there I wonder if the other people cancelled or didnt turn up
I would not call that a Deluxe accomodation. Thanks anyway for sharing your experience.
If you want to see an interesting single accomodation on a train, have a look at the Australian train "the Ghan". Gold Class. The corridor run in the centre of the carriage in a zig zag configurations between the cabins. It's a bit tight at night when you step off the bed, but during the day you sit in a very confortable armchair, and no sharing. Toilet and showers are at each end of the carriage. There is also a 24hr tea/coffee/biscuit self serve. The same applies to the "Indian Pacific" train.
The reasons that you said about the convenience of trains are amazingly true. Good thing that you are not a "train enthusiast".
Hot room, snooty staff, small breakfast, leaky taps and no shower, and you still enjoyed it. You are easily pleased.
I enjoyed it because it's a sleeper train, it's convenient. I try to be objective. Of course I was expecting more services but yes I still enjoyed it.
He's a traveler and travelling is not only about comfort but also about the atmosphere that a trip can gives you. Boarding in Sicily and find yourself in the Eternal City in the morning is already something magic...
he is just a kid,,travels with a skate board,,;lolol, he just doesnt know any better.
The square on the north was closed in 2013 (Trapani -Piraineto )
I never thought that this could ever happen in Italy (talking about the failed bathroom 11:22 😂 and the staff 9:30).
Greetings from Romania! 🙋🏻♂️
I mean up here in Denmark we've had our fair share of bad experiences with Italian stuff. I mean heck we bought the horrible IC4 and IC2 trains from them before selling a good chunk of them to Astra Trans Carpatic down around your parts! And that's on top of multiple cases of faulty claims and scandals in the construction industry whenever italian companies are involved!
@@drdewott9154 Danske bank money laundering scandal any bells ringing ?
@@drdewott9154 many trains around Europe are build by Italian Companies and many innovative solutions in train construction have been invented and promoted by Breda or similar industries in Italy (quite famous about train design). Please keep informed and please show respect.
@@gg5825 Then name me the biggest companies in the rail sector in Italy outside of Ansaldo Breda. Please inform me then
DrDewott there are large manufacturing districts about train construction. Ansaldo Breda (now Itachi Italy) is just a brand including a complex supply-chain not a single factory. It is a value for manufacturing in Europe, then please show respect.
Good
Hi! If you come to Hungary, I suggest you try out the new IC+ coaches, built by our state railway operator MÁV-Start. Awesome content :-)
This train is like the night ferry train between Paris and London before the tunnel
Before 1994 then, maybe earlier!
Hi simply I hope you enjoy the trains of my country , sorry if they are vandalized
you travel with a skate board! conductor gave you the respect that deserves.
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!
谢谢你的视频，希望有机会我也可以尝试一下这趟夜班火车。
Breakfast?!?!? Coffee and biscuit!!!!!!😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Nice intro.
Hello from Italy
Great Journey ! I'm from Romania and i saw that also in Italy are few problems, like that "fail" in the bathroom 😅 By the way this video was made in West Europe so we can't to say anything about those services. If you want to come for another trip in Romania, i'm sure that you will have the same experience with arrogant staff in the coach. I am surprised to see the part 2 of this trip. How many sleeper trains have the FS in the whole country? I know that there are also Nightjet ÖBB trains from Wien hbf to Roma Termini. BIG Like! :D
Hi, sleeper trains timetable can be seen at www.trenitalia.com/content/dam/tcom/allegati/trenitalia_2014/informazioni/orario_digitale/In_Treno_Orario_Intercity.pdf from page 63
International trains are being reactivated these days, so it's a bit difficult to get a link to this type of information but I can ensure that, yes, the route you said exists!
Il n'y a pas une voiture-resto pour ce trajet de 12h ? Syracuse-Milan, ca me tenterait bien, en excelsior single. Merci pour la video
Please make a video on the Norwegian high speed rail
This train is why people fly.
I would have Melted in there, so would my contact lenses! :-O
will you ride the avelia liberty Acela when it comes out in 2021? also if you do, visit Boston, we have a pretty good commuter rail
Sure
That is really bad about the heat, they need to sort that out as no one can sleep in that heat. And the staff being rude is typical. They would have known if anyone was joining you but can’t be bothered. Crap service like you experienced is what drives people away from sleepers. Such a shame as that room looked really good and that top bunked looked amazing with the space.
I wonder how much time was added to the trip by loading the train cars onto the ferry. Wouldnt it be better to take a bus to a ferry terminal, then back onto a train. Seems crazy.
Cool Intro.
In Spain we have all type of trains in mainland Spain, but we have 2 archipielagos: Canary Islands and Balearic Islands. In the Balearic Islands there are only commuter trains and 2 metro lines for the city of Palma de Mallorca. In the Canary Islands there isn't any train line, just buses (guaguas, as they say it). It would be great if the Spanish government constructed a connection between the Islands and mainland Spain by train on a ferry, as Italy did with Sicily.
Postdata: The Canary Islands are preparing high speed regional trains for the 2 major islands of the archipielago: Tenerife and Gran Canaria
Renfe (Spain's public and only (until the next year, when the french competence will appear with some low-cost SNCF trains) railway company) eliminated recently the "Trenhotel" services (Night train services) due to the Covid-19 crisis. I don't know what will Renfe do with the "Trenhotel"
@@pedrorubiotejero_aka_prt I travelled on the Trenhotel many years ago from Milano to Barcelona! It was indeed a great trip! The best train I was ever on! Very sad they are discontinued.
@@TrebleLover The only "Trenhotel" services that were operating before the Covid-19 crisis were services serving Madrid with the major cities in the autonomous community of Galicia.
There were also "Trenhotel" services from Barcelona to the same destination (Major cities in Galicia) and some international services, for example, the service you said in your comment, a service connecting Paris with Madrid, or Hendaye (Spanish Border) with Lisbon, most exactly, the station of Santa Apolonia. All of them have been discontinued by "Diurno" (Daily) and High Speed trains
Hello there, do you know if there is a buffet car or a restaurant car on this train, so you could buy a larger and more substantial breakfast?
Best wishes and take care. Kind regards, Peter Skuce. St Albans. Hertfordshire. England.
Unfortunately, there's no restaurant car on Italian night trains.
You can get food only on daytime high speed trains.
@@Fufu8881 - thank you for the information :-)
Siracusa. My city. I travelling often on this train.
"Trivelling" a Trapani magari
gian francioschio 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Nice intro and trip report too!
Your "heat theory" is correct, they didn't couple the electricity while standing in sunny Sicily.
Don't get fooled by "Deluxe" name, it's just a normal sleeping car. Italians named classes on ICN trains "Basic", "Comfort" and "Deluxe", but these are just names. The only deluxe class on ICN is the Excelsior.
T2S cars never had communal showers, and so don't their rebuilds. If you want to try a good rebuild, try the BTE Autoreisezug Hamburg - Lörrach or the winter Alpen Express from Netherlands to Austria. They have ex-ÖBB sleeping cars now running for BTE, named WLABm33, which are the T2S rebuilds too, but much better made, and in better shape than these South Italian cars.
T3S upgraded, not T2S
@@MIDNITENOWHERE T3S is just a rebuilt T2S. They made one bigger compartment from two smaller, and one Excelsior compartment from 3 smaller.
Is this the "triple full cabin" deluxe sleeper?
Can you get a single sleeping compartment on this train?
Can you board the train from messina?
Did you report the leaky faucet?
6 month ago you do rome to siciliano intercity notte
12:36 I didn't know you could speak Italian! 😂😂
That deluxe breakfast and dirty bathroom was to much for me!
intercity is way too expensive for how mediocre it is, the night ones are especially bad
any cheaper train that you can think of in western Europe?
That train is 60 y.o. before that you rest on a wood plank, and the sound of the train was super loud into the cabin. You can sleep with hot "environment", but for sure not in a loud one. The trainhead (or in italian Capotreno) well... probably was not rude, but for real he doesn't know who is going to sleep next to you. Immagine working the night and also trying to remeber all this sort of things.
It doesn't make much sense to compare Sicily and Corsica, as the two islands are not really alike. Corsica having very strong reliefs and Sicily being 3 times larger ...
On the other hand, the night trains are really an asset I think!
How do you book that train? What's the app you used?
Because I tried to find the Milan to Sicily relation on their online presence but I never succeeded...
It's hard to find it online but I found recently on Trenitalia.it
@@SimplyRailway Thanks! After entering 30 dates that were unavailable i finally found one that is bookable! :-)