French's last overnight trains deserves a refurbishement... Intercites de nuit review
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- čas přidán 27. 06. 2019
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Hi everyone, welcome to this trip report bound to Toulouse, the Pink city and Airbus home with Intercités de nuit 🌙
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First overnight train on this channel
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- TRIP INFORMATION -
Railway company : SNCF Intercités
Train type : Corail coaches VTU/VU
From : Paris Austerlitz to Toulouse Matabiau
N° of train : 3731
Duration : 7h56
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14:39 On some of the UK sleepers, you're allowed to sleep in for a bit if your train arrives early in the morning.
Let me guess , Night Riviera from Penzance to London ? 05h03 at Paddington ;)
Oh my, I used the siège inclinable a lot in my youth, late 90s. Mostly to Strasbourg. The coach has no changed a bit since then!
Small tip, if 6 is too early, take the train to La Tour de Carol until around 7am and head back with the morning commuters into Toulouse, where you should be around 8, then. E.g. continue to Saverdun at 7, the next train should be only 30' wait, by 8:18 you're back in Toulouse Matabiau. Heck, with a bit of luck, you'll catch the train half an hour early if you're quick and the TER is slightly delayed... An hour extra to sleep makes such a difference...
That was interesting and honest, unlike some reviews. You are right about the future of environment travel, and Governments need to support it.
3:38 Maybe that's the train driver :P
Oh, you know, with more and more automating (google translate english, sorry), a cat coud still drive a train
For travel between cities that are not too far apart, trains make a lot of sense. You go from one city center to the other, no hourlong ride to and from an airport. You don't need an IFE screen because you have interesting scenery looking out the window. And when trains use electricity instead of thousands of gallons of fuel, that benefits the planet. Even if the electricity is generated by fossil fuels, rail travel uses energy far more efficiently.
@zayid928
than take into account how the electricity was produced - coal ? or nuclear???
@@johnnygomez7063 in France, 80% nuclear.
@@johnnygomez7063 actually, trains also consume much less energy per passenger/distance than road or air travel, so sometimes, even if you're producing your electricity from lignite or even using a diesel locomotive , you'll still have a lower carbon footprint.
@@leonmorel789 1.) An hour long ride to the airports???? WTF ??
our airport area in Prague, CZ is located directly behind the last block accros the circle highway - within aministrative borders of Prague.
from the last block of flats does it take:
- 2 more bus stops to Terminal 3,
- 4 more bus stops to Terminal 1,
- 5 more bus stops to Terminal 2
The long bus (an "acordeon" type) goes from nearest metro station to the airport:
- every 3-4 minutes in rush hours,
- every 7 minutes in the very late evening
- every 30 minutes in the night (between midnight and 5 a.m.)
Regarding personal screens
- our "Yellow" trains have personal screen in every seat for wtching movies, playing games, searching web
- every CZ train company provide charging plugs and free WiFi on board:
(Yellow, Blue, Black, Orange-Green) its simply long lasting standard
- same in "Yellow" busses - every seat has it personal screen too, free WiFi, and charging plugs and USB charging connectors
Thank you for your videos. I do agree with you 100%. We need more night trains in Europe. Good luck!
Taking the overnight train from Paris to Andorra next week. Can’t wait! Best way to travel! I did the Night Riviera a few months ago and didn’t sleep too well but sleeper trains are fun! Thanks for the vid.
I like this video, i work on the international train from amsterdam to germany and we hope to have a sleeper train at the end of this year. I also have to work on that and I cant wait! 😁😁😊 anyway your videos are always fantastic and this one is also great! Offcourse it is not the VR in Finnland but still.. also the 1st class, indeed it looks like a hostel🙈 but you had some nice contact and that is also great about train traveling👍
Très bonne vidéo comme d'habitude.
Continue comme cela !😃
I sometimes take this train to Biarritz when I drive to Spain, that way I can sleep and make progress at the same time haha
In Portugal we have corail coachs too in Intercity(IC) trains
Yes but refurbished and much better maintained compared to the moving wrecks ours have become
Some nice idioms - "prevent fall fence" haha good one. But seriously that was first class?? Bro - it looked like a student hostel at best :) Bon nuit!
it's not a luxury train like Orient Express ;-)
@@mohamedb8054 In the UK, on a night train, if you book a sleeping room, you get it to yourself as standard, and they are very modern, lots of features, including plug sockets etc, much more up to date and private than this.
@@2ndplace1 I am ok with you but it's important to not confounding a night train and an "intercité" night train who is totally different. You can see the differents on a Google search. PS: Sorry for my english level :|
Bit of a joke really, calling it first class and sharing with three strangers, with no toilet facilities.... great.
Yeah. That's nowhere near 1st class in 2020. In fact I feel like even in the 70's that shouldn't have been called the 1st class. Maybe it's French humour.
It is a joke, indeed. Even Amtrak feels like Orient Express when compared to this. Only positive, it's pretty cheap. But that's about it.
@@that90skid72 not even that cheap. If you don’t book in advance it can cost up to 180€ in first class... absolute joke. A lot of foreign travellers are angry when they find out they have to share. Which i can understand. But sometimes for an extra 50€ you can privatiste your cabin...
@@jbcaycay8035 Yikes you're right about that. A single trip in 1st class for next Friday right now = 119 euros. What a joke. Should be 70, no more than that.
@@that90skid72 and next friday is a massive departure day in france for the winter holidays. So it'll be crampled. And cause of covid they'll be no catering not even a cup of cofee.. I'll pass
Thank you so much for all your vidéos !!!!!!!
The caption I've read was so funny and wholesome...
_"3 roommates were with me; one French couple & one lonely Englishman (He was a funny btw)"_
Great effort for your first report. Keep safe.
Excellent video! Everything was really informative,. Thanks!
Glad to see the Englishman doing me proud
A great and enlightened report -- merci beaucoup!
Great video! I was surprised you were walking around the train in socks. :))) Wonderful overview of this night train.
Cool video, you will get a train similar to our Russian long-distance trains, we also have cars with sleeping cars in a restaurant. And there are even two-story long-distance trains where there are wagons with berths, compartment wagons, there is a shower restaurant where you can wash yourself before bedtime. So I advise if. destiny. in Russia to make a video about our Russian long-distance trains of Russian Railways.
Third class in my train from Saint Petersburg to Murmansk was better than this second class 🤣. And the trip was very enjoyable even tho was 25h.
It is also a good way to meet new friends. Share drinks and food. There is usually time at station stops to get off for a few minutes and buy extras such as instant noodles, fruit, bread . On long distance trains there is a samovar at the end of each carriage for hot water.
@@peterw4338 yeah that was the best part of the russian trains, people try to communicate with me and get to know me, they invited me food and the conductor was very polite. I need to try 3 months traveling around Russia.
Very useful video, thanks!
Beautiful video bravo. I love your videos
Trop génial!!! 👍👌👌
I can tell you and SNCF have a great business-to-customer relationship!
I was using sarcasm if people couldn’t tell.
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I remember the snef trains well when I traveled to Spain the first two times with my family when I was a kid and that was going back to the 80s
Great review dude, now i want to do a trip with it 😂😎
Les notification sont de retour pour moi ah mais je l’ai déjà vu cette vidéo
En effet, il a dû supprimer le téléchargement précédent pour des raisons de confidentialité (je suppose que quelqu'un s'est plaint d'avoir été inclus dans la vidéo), et il a à nouveau chargé la vidéo. C'est pourquoi elle apparaît comme une "nouvelle" vidéo dont la plupart nous avons déjà vu.
Long train journeys are not to reach a destination, they are a journey in itself. In this age of high speed it has just become about reaching a destination. Sleeper train is one reason i love travelling by them here in India, i don't mind the long hours honestly. Night trains also make total sense, you end your day travel at night and reach your destination in the morning, best utilization of time
And the slow night trains use a fraction of the energy of high speed rail.
En France ils ont modernisé les trains de nuit et les ont remis en service 😊
Great video! Wish I could travel with a sleeper train, but in Spain, just like in France, they're cutting off all of the conventional material just for the High Speed Trains... So because of that there are only around 6 Sleeper services every night... Sad!
Very nice!!!
Aaah le métro de Paris... J'ai lu un livre sur tout ses secrets lignes par lignes...c'est génial !
Sinon super vidéo, continue comme ça!
Canada used to have night trains between Montreal and Toronto. Normally a four+-hour trip, the night train would park on a siding for 2 or 3 hours to kill time, so you wouldn't be arriving at your destination at 4 am.
That would be the Cavalier, which I rode westbound in the mid-1980s. I wanted to ride a lower berth in a "section." Open sections ruled the rails with an iron hand in North America for decades.
I settled into my lower berth in Montreal and heard a couple of conversations in French in the aisle. Gave that trip an exotic international flavor.
I really enjoyed this trip. Nothing escapes the material and comfort tester. Yes, I too really miss the night trains.
Sometimes I used to talk about the bunks on our French trains as "sleeping boards" and it was true!
Well, thanks to this documentary, I can see that the comfort of the bunks has increased a little bit.
I took a night train from Austerlitz to Hendaye once in the 1980s, but I was in a 2nd class compartment . It was a nice journey. Hope the night trains can be revived.
14:40 The record I've had so far for the earliest overnight train is the 1 from Lao Cai (in Vietnam) that reaches Hanoi @ 5 a.m.
I love the idea of sleeping on a train so much i wish there was some in my local areas but there isnt
Please visit India after covid-19, we have many long distance trains albeit not as fast. The 1st class air conditioned coaches are very comfortable!
Very nice informative video. Thank you. Australia.
Very nice trip report
very entertaining videos..keep it up!
Super intéressante ta vidéo ! Je n'ai pris qu'une seule fois un train de nuit et c'était en Russie ; j'avais trouvé ça vraiment sympa comme concept. Malheureusement je ne prends quasiment plus de train en France (surtout TGV) depuis plusieurs années, les prix étant vraiment prohibitifs quand on a aucune carte de réduction et l'arrivée du covoiturage a permis une plus grande mobilité et souplesse dans la manière de se déplacer d'un lieu à un autre. J'utilise cependant beaucoup les transports en commun en Île-de-France ! Mais c'est toujours agréable de voyager en train malgré tout ;)
J'ai regardé cette vidéo 4 fois déjà, c'est beau
😍 Polt (Paris Orléans Limoges Toulouse)
I took one of those 6 bunk berths to Toulouse on a high school field trip. Good memories.
Thank you for taking us along! Very helpful information. Glad to hear recent news of the return of night trains in France. Ps is the engine electric, until Toulouse?
Yes :)
Très bonne vidéo, ça fait plaisir de voir des fans du train de nuit! J'ai eu l'occasion de le prendre aussi pour me rendre à Toulouse (en siège inclinable ou par miracle j'ai réussi à dormir) ainsi que dans l'Ariège en direction de Latour de Carol. Tu comptes l'emprunter de nouveau? Une vidéo sur un trajet en direction de Rodez, Albi, Cerbère ou Briançon ça pourrait etre pas mal! Bonne continuation à toi ;)
Somehow I think the managers of SNCF only take the train when they have to. And then it's Thalys or TGV, I think they prefer to fly.
Super !
I have used sleepers in Norway and Sweden and loved it. When I was a kid there use to be a sleeper service between Adelaide and Melbourne but they only have it as a day service and probably won't exist beyond 3 years now :-(
I love how he just bangs on the bathroom door to fix it and that proves that if something is broken bang on it and it will fix it or break it more
Perfect video very LOVE TRAIN SNCF ❤❤💥💥💥👍👍👍👍 THANK YOU BYE
Thanks for the video, I remember wekll my first Vorsichtig from Nancy to Paris and back back in the 80s....And Germany cut down the night trains after reducing the service. My wife with our children travelled from Berlin to Bratislava in the former nighttrain to Bissfest. From Berlin to Prag the Czech stuff did talk german, english and czech, so far so well... . But in Prag the personal changed and the hungarian conductors only spoke hungarian, any czech, any german, any english, just hungarian. The train did arrive in Bratislava bang on time, but there wasn't anything visible. The stuff hided self , my family was just alone exept to other desperate looking passengers, who weren't sure either if they were already at their destination. Early morning, fog and the high quality international night train, nothing more. Finally they arrived on time, but the whole experience was very inconvenient to attrack more passengers, one and a half year later this service was cut...Luckily the öbb took over some nighttrain services but it it really not as it has been!!!
Ja, die ÖBB hat einige Nachtzug-Verbindungen gerettet. Gott sei Dank. Das Staatsbahn des kleinen Österreichs betreibt jetzt tolle Verbindungen. Zum Beispiel: Bratislava - Wien - Split an der Adria. Oder: München - Venedig. Es lebe die ÖBB. Vive l'ÖBB.
Aujourd'hui, le gouvernement et la sncf on modernisé des trains de nuit et les remettent en service 😮😊😊👍👍
"Fewer and fewer trains"...gosh. Dans l'art de se tirer une balle dans le pied, la SNCF en a fait une discipline olympique !
Je ne brosserais pas mes dents avec cette eau du réservoir probablement condaminée par quelques bactéries. Je prendrais de l'eau minérale en bouteille. Merci pour ce récit intéressant.
1:27 true! Even though the TGV is awesome, the old classic trains are important and cool too!
For example the shut down line from soissons to reims. I can not understand why there are no trains anymore even though both cities are big and people from soissons could go shopping in reims etc... But for now the line is closed...
@@rubio3245 I guess centralism. A line between those cities doesn't benefit Paris
@@flopunkt3665 its sad
J'ai revu cette vidéo avec plaisir. Récemment TF1 a diffusé un reportage sur les trains de nuit où il était question d'une sérieuse mise à niveau des voitures.
Il serait pourtant plus que temps que les Corail soient remplacées : une palanquée de voitures Corail de nuit a déjà fini sous le chalumeau des ferrailleurs. Les dernières, qui constitue aussi le dernier matériel tracté voyageur livré à la SNCF (donc je ne compte pas les innombrables automotrices), les VU 84 AcBcux, ont été mises en services il y a 30 ans cette année. Il est clair que celles qui restent ne vont pas durer éternellement. Et il va falloir plus de locomotives aussi pour les tracter.
That was beautiful train
YESS, I love night trains, and will be taking the overnight train to Brussels from Vienna this 29 of February!
I would like an overnight train Paris Vienna, or Paris Berlin
Enjoy :)
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Super trip report ! 👍🏻 hâte de te voir découvrir les futures lignes de train de nuit qui seront réouvertes dans les années à venir 😉
Viva La France! 🇦🇺💐
Super journey
J'adore les trains Corail!
Hello! Thank you very much for your video, I'm planning to take this train to join my family in toulouse for Christmas. Do you know if there is access to hot water? (If I want to eat instant noodles or make myself a tea 😊) I used to take night trains very often when I was in China, and there is always a spot for very hot water in each carriage.
Donc oui c'était la première vidéo sur ta chaine que j'ai vu et c'est ma préférée j'adore les trains de nuit et je trouve que tu as entièrement raison. Pourquoi tu as remis la même?
those were the days my friend....
In English, you'd call the "prevent fall fence" a bed railing. :-)
Great report! The only issue and I do not appreciate at all are the "WTF" comments. It diminishes/substracts seriousness in such a nice report.
Those CoRail coaches seem very similar to the British Mk3 coaches very smooth and quiet at speed unlike modern coaches with the constant noise from poorly sited airconditioning blowers.
Could you give the link to the website where you booked your tickets, when I try searching night trains on sncf and other sites they don’t appear?
Intercités de nuit 🖤
Je l'avais déjà vue ... Mais bon tant pis
Classic French Electrics: Love it!!
If you order breakfast do they bring it to your cabin or do you go to pick it up? Great video, btw
Breakfast to your cabin
...you must be joking!
Hopefully sharing compartments with strangers on overnight sleeper trains will become a thing of the past in the post-Covid world.
Yeah, everyone is so over sensitive now... I can’t wait for the day when it’s going to cost a fortune to go anywhere, like in America, and then all Europeans will live on how great it used to be. Don’t like sleep coaches, take a fucking car or whatever, but I don’t get why it has to be gone for everyone. Everyone thinks Tesla is the only way of being eco friendly, yet they take a plane everywhere and hate on these trains. TGV is great, but it costs a lot and consumes a lot for some trips that could be made slower during the night. It is like the Concorde, have you ever wondered why that’s gone?
@@vali20vali20vali20 Especially a TGV journey from Paris to Milan which takes 8 hours, only the 2 hours section between Paris to Lyon is on LGV, rest of the journey is on classic line. That's why overnight train would be much more sensible for a journey between these 2 cities.
When i retire ill just keep booking sleeper trains so i can go round europe in style and sleep with my Nintendo switch charging on the bunk beds lol
Make sure you get Interrail tickets. I've used them a lot since I retired, great fun.
I do love sleeper trains but that was in desperate need of tlc, odd because my few experiences on SNCF have always been on new impressive trains. Maybe I misunderstood but really, 3 strangers in an old cabin, if I’m sleeping next to someone I better at least know them first. Honestly the seats were huge with plenty of legroom, think I would have preferred that myself
They sadly got rid of the overnight trains to Paris, they were great the bar was like a party. The TGV trains through the day don’t seem. that sensible as the journey is very long so you’re effectively wasting a day, night train are great
Totally agree! Hopefully not all will dissapear and some will stay. I work in Amsterdam on the train towards Germany and öbb is growing in eu with nighttrains. Anyway, the thing is when one company has all night trains, then the charm of different nighttrains is gone😃
The Corail cars are the oldest passenger rolling stock currently in use by SNCF-they were built between 1975 and 1989.
The car seen at 2:49 (orange doors with green roof line and white/black body) is still in the original 2nd class livery (1st class had the same exterior but with a yellow roof line iirc)-very rare today as most have been repainted many times.
The BB26000 ("Sybic", meaning Synchrone Bicourant) are SNCF's fastest and most powerful electric locomotives as of today, together with their sister class, the BB 36000s ("Astride" for Asynchrone Tricourant Drive Engine).
They use a similar (but detuned) engine technology as the TGV Atlantique and can reach 200 kph in passenger service (but not as a freight train, as those are generally limited to 120 kph due to their weight).
By the way, for French locomotives, BB means that they have two axles per bogie. CC locomotives (three axles per bogie) also existed and were more powerful (mainly CC6500/21000 for electrics and CC72000 for diesels), but they have been definitively retired from service in the 2000s/2010s for the last ones, due to expensive running costs, pollution issues (for the diesels) and them being more agressive on the railway due to their third axle per bogie.
4:04 i really wouldn't be surprised if ÖBB nightjet takes over the overnight services in France once the leading role of SNCF gets lowered. :D
Not impossible but highly unlikely. I don't think ÖBB rolling stock is authorized for French railroads. Even if it were, ÖBB would likely only offer connections with stops in Austria. Personally, I'd love a Nightjet from Vienna to Paris.
FrostyAUT Nightjet rolling stock has a permission. At least wagons used by CNL and then bought by ÖBB can be used for services to France. And again, i wouldn’t be surprised. For example, when nightjet introduced the connection Wien - Wroclaw - Berlin, nobody really had seen it coming. Also huge number of new sleeper rolling stock has been ordered lately for the new nightjet services, so there is a possibility for connecting Wien and Paris by night train at least. Let’s see what the future holds. 🙂
Aaaaand they just announced a Nightjet connection between Vienna and Brussels, starting 2020. From there, Paris is less than 2 hours away. :D
FrostyAUT oh did they? That’s amazing.
That would be an interesting option, but the trade unions will prevent that since it will endanger the current priveleges of the SNCF personnel. France also doesn't like competition from foreign train companies.
i donypt like to sleep i the train because I love seeing the new places..but yeah I still had no chance of travelling outside my country
Great video! 0:05 How do you make that animation?
Just "form" in final cut pro with some text and SNCF logo
Rémi signifie Réseau de Mobilité Interurbaine, on le retrouve sur les trains et cars de la région Centre
This makes an Amtrak Roomette (Super- or Viewliner) look like the damn Seven Star in Japan. No en suite AND shared? That is not just apathy, that's actively discouraging.
Bonjour ! (Je suppose que tu es français)
Cette vidéo est vraiment superbe : j'ai vraiment envie d'essayer un train de nuit avant qu'il ne soit trop tard...
Sais-tu si cette liaison Paris-Toulouse a repris depuis la crise du coronavirus ? Je serais tenté de me faire ça en septembre. Merci et bonne continuation !
Oui le train de nuit roule toujours :)
07:18 with the wheel bag : the train driver :)
Did I hear right that the train stops in Caussade before reaching Toulouse?
You are not alone, here in Italy we have a really small number of night trains
WTF ? You have to come to France, Italy is still a paradise for overnight train in Europe
@@SimplyRailway Yeah, maybe we have more trains than France, but you have to notice that Trenitalia doesn't invest on the material
On l’avais déjà vue cette vidéo sur la chaîne il y’a quelque mois ou semaine
En effet, il a dû supprimer le téléchargement précédent pour des raisons de confidentialité (je suppose que quelqu'un s'est plaint d'avoir été inclus dans la vidéo), et il a à nouveau chargé la vidéo. C'est pourquoi elle apparaît comme une "nouvelle" vidéo dont la plupart nous avons déjà vu.
In eastern europe it could be nice express train
Are the seats that you showed the only seat options? Or are there also seat compartments with six seats in this nighttrain?
Nope, that's the only seat option!
Always wanted to do the overnight from Paris to Barcelona but it got cancelled. La Tour de Carol only option now or the daytime TGV.
I'm an American; I'm a bit surprised to hear that overnight trains are dying out in a nation as train-dependent as France.
For the last 40 years the national train company has been focusing its efforts on developing high speed rail. They believed that high speed trains would go all over the country and would render traditional lines obsolete. The problem is that the high speed network is great for connecting major cities to Paris, but it's very difficult to travel between non capital cities (today the travel times between some cites are longer than in the seventies). Fortunately many people are complaining about this and the whole corona crisis got some politicians to talk about it. So maybe it will get better in the future (let's hope).
I don't like the idea to have to share the compartment with others. First class should have single and double compartments like ÖBB has. That is much more comfort. In this one I would prefer the seat.
I don't understand the idea to sleep with strangers in a couchette car. While you're asleep, they can steal things.
Usually people in overnight trains dont do that
SNCF needs quality overnight trains. Trains with private bedrooms. And new trains.
Did they stop the la tour de carol service?
Frumos imi place cum filmezi cu camera trenurile de călători ale Parisului succes în continuare meriți un like de la mine Vasilică Stoica România
Je me souviens...s'endormir au départ de Paris et pour se réveiller le matin dans les Alpes l 'approche d'Innsbrück. Le rêve.
La SNCF est comme EDF: le client est au service de la societé et non l'inverse...