Piaggio MP3 500 HPE - Who should buy it? Who should not? - Complete Walk Around Review!
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- The Piaggio MP3 is an odd scooter that's different for a reason. Is it right for you? Check out this video to decide for yourself!
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Really great review. Best American review I have ever seen. Completely focused and no irrelevant waffle. Other reviewers should take note. Well done.
You're going to be really disappointed to find out I'm Canadian and this was filmed in Canada. 🤣👍
In the UK you can drive it on a car licence, you don't have to pass a motorcycle test. All down to the three wheels.
Are yu sure 500cc ??
@@paulmarsh5673 British law treats it as three wheel car. Think Bond Bug, Reliant Robin etc. No limit on cc size.
I'm Germany you can also ride it with a car driving license but it's not because it has 3 wheels, it's because it has a break pedal.
Not exactly. I understand that It's the spacing between the front wheels.
Yamahas Nikken can't be ridden on a car license due spacing, but their other 560cc TMax 3 wheeler can, owing to the spacing.
And the minimum 43cm space between the front wheels🫣
Ordered my mp3 500HPE today. Picking it up next Friday!! Its a beast
Do you enjoy it?
@@DmitryIve yes its my daily driver its a beast.
Shocks, Pegs.... Lucky.
Very informative! I'm looking to buy one and this review gives me confidence in the quality of the MP3 500.
Remarkable to think the 250cc MP3 first appeared late 2005 and the 500cc engined Gilera Fuoco version in 2007. Brilliantly gutsy of Piaggio to actually go ahead and put it into production having displayed the concept a few years earlier.
Great point!
Love it. Great review. Do more Ebike reviews. Its obvious you know how to put together informative reviews. Well done.
Thanks for your kind words. I'll be reviewing the entire Pedego line of bikes, and then I'll continue to circle back to the models and features that people are asking about. My hope is to create the most informative, interactive channel on those bikes anywhere on the internet.
@Peter Lowe One - I've owned a Piaggio MP3 500LT ie variant for four years now. It has been a real blast because of it's ability to be ridden on a regular car licence in the UK. One must pass a basic (CBT) training every two years and limited to 125cc maximum, until one passes a full motorcycle licence test. The advantage I found was the locking suspension made it easier (being disabled) to handle the bike's hefty 500Lbs dry curb weight. There's no side stand like two wheeled counterparts, the locking suspension is handy at traffic lights as one can lock the suspension and then just twist and go from a standstill. The ABS braking is effective and doesn't lose grip over slippery surfaces, unlike a typical two wheeler does easily. One can still filter on the MP3 too, which is another major advantage over a regular fixed axle trike. The con's: Frequently eats through rear tyres on full power mode, that according to the service manual swapped out every 1800 miles. The problem with that is, the exhaust pipe and entire rear swing arm assembly must me removed to get to access to the rear wheel. Lastly changing a headlight bulbs involves stripping the entire front end to get the headlight housing out to replace either dipped or main beam bulbs. Would I buy another one.... No. I don't like the level of complacency from many of the UK Piaggio dealerships. MP3's don't hold resale value because of the new stricter Low emissions zones throughout London, but costs allot to buy new and used, they're not so popular with British consumer commuters as a result. Thanks for sharing your review and ride experiences. 😉
If you put a car tyre on the back wheel it might last longer, maybe up to 10 or 15 thousand miles.
There is information about it on CZcams. It's called darksiding.
It might work on your bike.
This was an excellent review! Thank you so much! I'm thinking of getting one, I live in Spain so I can ride it all year round. I'm used to a car (I'm originally from Canada!) so this is tempting, it sounds like it's more secure. And buying a car is out of the question.
Greetings from the UK Peter. Great review. Last week I bought my first 2017 MP3 300. It has 6000 miles on it. I still have my car but wanted a scooter. Really pleased with it. Puts a smile on your face every time you ride it. Fantastic and fun 😉
That's awesome! Thanks for sharing!
My ‘21 MP3 500 HPE is awesome, done 100 mph and so stable! I lock up wheels so I easily walk it back or forward when parking etc
Nice video worth my subs. Keep it up Peter 👏👏👏
Awesome! Thanks so much! Over the next year, I've got a LOT more content coming, so be patient, but I'll continue to do stuff like this, and introduce more variety as I move forward. Really appreciate the support!
Very well put together and informative, thanks Peter, I've owned one since 2008, and I love mine, a very forgiving bike. There is (or used to be) a waterproof blanket or apron (I don't know what to call it) available from Piaggio that keeps your legs and feet dry on rainy days.
Thanks for your kind words, and thanks for watching! I'm looking forward to making future videos on these, there really is nothing like them on the roads, and it's very well done!
Thermoscud leg cover I have one on my MP3 300
Saw many of the apron... whatever it is called when I was in Spain and Portugal last year.
A large Kawasaki dealer and parts specialist in Swansea also sells Piaggio. The mechanics can borrow a any roadworthy bike to go into town. They almost always choose an MP3.
I had a 2010 mp3 300 that I loved and I miss. If I had this model available at the time I’d probably still have it. Such an awesome machine.
Awesome! Thanks for sharing your experiences.
finally figured out a way to remove the kickstand! Good Job!
Overall - good job. Thanks for posting/sharing. Cheers!
Thanks for watching!! I appreciate it!
Thanks for an excellent video: I enjoyed it and I think that the bike is exactly what I need.
I own a piaggio mp3 300 LT, it's racy and just wants to rip. These trikes are very stable in all terrains, only criticism is they're cumbersome to filter in traffic, that said I've got my eye on a Peugeot metropolis 400 I to add to my collection!
That's awesome! Thanks for sharing!
I owned a 300lt but now I've bought a 500 and it's another thing
@@hubertcordon4392 thanks for sharing that info, how much different are the 500 s?
Great review and fantastic machine. You didn't tell us about the engine and transmission?
Nice review Peter. I have a 2016 MP3 500, bought it new after owning motorcycles. I really wanted the CanAm Spider but my husband thought I would like the MP3 because it rides like a motorcycle and it was a fraction of the cost. ;o) But I really wanted the stability of the CanAm. I still have my MP3 and have not been disappointed. It will go 80+ mph on the highway and absolutely a fun bike to ride. I've not had any issues at all with the bike after 8 years. I will admit that I've never tried to lock the front wheels without coming to a complete stop with feet down first. In fact I'll need to look at whether or not my bike even has that flashing light feature that you highlight when the bike slows to an idle while still rolling. I've never noticed it. Might be time to trade in for new as I really like that reverse feature on the new bikes. :-)
Thanks for sharing your real world experiences!! I'm really looking forward to seeing the latest model. I expect to learn more about it later this week, and as soon as it arrives, I'll get a review up.
A can am Spyder is only 15k. Not much more than this bike.
@@limitlesschoices You are right, but Can-Am is much larger to move around or takes too much space in the garage, also Can-Am can not learn like a regular motorcycle. I am happy with my MP3 250.
I've been reading the forums and the people who like these - they really like them. Even heard of an instance where a tire blew out and the operator was able to keep the bike upright until stopped.
Great review! Please post a review when you get your hands on a 2023 Piaggio MP3 530 Exclusive.
I absolutely will! This unit was sold and gone within a couple days of me making this video, and we haven't received another MP3 since. I'm looking forward to spending some more time with one, and digging into all the details of the updated model.
Would you mind giving a quick demo on three areas :
1-Center kickstand use for a lighter weight person,
2-Disengaging alarm(if using button switch on right handle bar area alone does not seem to shut alarm off,
3- A stuck gas panel, key press/rotate in the ignition does not open the panel.
Much thanks from Northern CA
Thanks.
I think many aspects of being a rider a quite subjective.
And there are many conditions in which people ride which those people probably think are universal.
I don't think I could use one of these, but I would love to have one as a toy.
That's because I commute 70 miles round trip on a two-wheeler, and most of that is in or rather "through" traffic.
I do that all year round as snow and ice are rare in my location, though in mid winter it is freezing (zero celsius) or colder at 6.40 when I set off.
The Yamaha Tricity 125/155/300 models (mostly the 125 and 155) are popular here, but even they cannot get through stationary traffic on Japanese roads, narrow as many of them are, unless the rider has plenty of confidence (only my opinion).
For evening or weekend riding, I would have one of these if the fuel econoy were OK, but I would guess it is like my 2018 Tmax 530, with an average of about 20 kilometres/litre.
I sure would love to try on of these, though.
Yeah, I'll be clear, I'm a fan of these, I think they're great to drive, but they're also not something that I would buy... at least, not with other options out there. Having said that, anytime I get a chance to ride one, I'll do it! The people that own these, love them, and I completely get why they feel that way!
I ran one for almost a year to the day, 2018 to 2019. It seemed like a good idea at the time but after running a Vespa GTS 300 I never really took to it. Cumbersome, difficult to filter and stop start trafic was a nightmare, especialy with a pillion. I went back to running a Vespa GTS and now have a new Vespa GTS 300 HPE. Best machine I have ever had and I include a Suzuki 850 in that.
Thanks for this comment. Vespa seems a little overpriced when compared to other brands, but I guess you get what you pay for.
It does seem like Vespa owners tend to be satisfied with their driving experience and rave about the scooter's longevity. Just as an example, having owned a couple of CPI scooters, it's incredible how quickly the electronic ignition goes out and you are resorting to kick starts in no time. 🛵
was it because the pillion was too high up ?
@@matthewspry4217 No, more just sheer weight at slow speed. Crawling along in stop start traffic. You can only safely lock it in upright when you are stood so crawling in heavy traffic becomes tiresome. My pillion didn’t like the high seat though.
Nice detailed review.
Can you also review the peugeot metropolis 400i and yamaha nilken gt, please?
They need to make a 600cc of this bike. Great video.
Been looking to upgrade from my Honda Zoomer into something heavier but not quite big motorcycle yet, the piaggio mp3 500 seems to be a good one to keep my eyes on. Thanks for the informative video!
Thanks for watching. Yeah. This really has the benefits of a larger bike without the challenges of having to handle that weight. It's a super interesting bike to me. I really enjoyed it!
Great review, thank you! The more that I look at these, the more I like them. Two questions; are the front tires mounted correctly? (For some reason it looked like the tread pattern was going in the wrong direction..). Second Question: I’ve heard that certain years show very good improvements to the design...and knowledge and when, if, or how it was changed?? Thank you (I want to keep this in mind if I shop for a used one)
The tires look incorrect, but they're not. I used to think that too. I might do a video on this later. As far as previous models, the 2023 model has been updated from this model. I'll need to do a little more research before I go on the internet and confidently tell people what years had what... but I'll try to do that for the future. Feel free to subscribe!
Thank you!
Had a 500 version a few years ago and remember accelerating too hard going up a grassy mound, the rear slid right and a natural instinct to steer in direction of skid saved the day.
I didn't have to put a foot down like on a two wheeler.
I've always had conventional bikes but the tilting trike experience is just as good and safer, just need more choice in engines.
I have a video up of the new 530 model just this past week. Here's a link to it. czcams.com/video/512a_HmDR1M/video.html
Feet up flat track
Good explanation
Thank you Peter a great review, been looking for such a vehicle as I've come down from the big cruisers over the years and now running a BMW F800Gt but at Just over 80 years old now I find my left leg (after an accident) is not quite as firm as it should be so this might be the answer to NOT having to give up the biking and fresh air just yet ?? will now be going off to seek a dealer and have a road test... cheers from across the pond 👍
Thanks for watching! All the best in your search!
I am considering one of these for much the same reason as you.I am not quiet your age yet but getting close,left hip is dodgy and pains when mounting and dismounting my V-strom..
Hello Pat, A lot to think about, I like to filter through traffic so tend to leave my side boxes off and stick my kit on the back but kicking over the bags puts strain on my left leg so I've take to mounting whilst the bike is on its centre stand and standing on the footpeg and mounting like that somewhat like getting on a horse !!! but the time will come when I will need a "step through" and this 650cc looks the biz. Tried the Yamaha niken gt but same probs as my Beemer.... anyway onwards and upwards, nice talking to you mate, Ride safe........... Dave 👍
I thought a long time about buying the MP3, but the cost and my Vespa dealer told me to go with the Piaggio BV 400. I think the MP3 might be better for mountain driving for sure.
I have BV cruiser 500, and BV is better
Very very good video.
ASR: Anti Slip Regulation - it prevents slipping and can be disabled for trickier situations when your stuck or need your wheels to be able to slip without the MP3 throttling down automatically. Hence the ASR button.
I liked your review. I just have one question. Is it possible to release the handbrake when the bike is parked. Thanks George
Mr. Lowe: nice, in-depth presentation, thank you. Do you know if the windshield can be taken off for the hot summers?
Ooh. Good question. My memory of it is that it's very much part of the bike. I'm thinking that it probably could come off, but it may not look finished without it.
Hi Peter,
So glad to see that you are still doing great videos.
My question is, do you need a motorcycle license for this vehicle?
Great question. Things can vary by region, but this has a 500cc engine, so I don't know of any area in North America where you wouldn't need at least some level of motorcycle license. In many areas the size of engine determines what type of license that you would need.
No you don't need motorcycle license for this type scooter.
@@wileecoyote5749 I think we should clarify by saying where you're from. As I mentioned earlier, it will depend on where you live. Most areas will require some level of motorcycle license for this type of vehicle.
It does depend on your location.
In the UK you can drive on a car licence, issued b4 2013.
I owned an MP3 500 in California and now have one in the UK. Piaggio added an extra inch or so of separation between the two front wheels of MP3s exported to the USA and the UK so that they could be classed as "trikes" and therefore are technically legal to drive on a car licence, and without a helmet! but you may struggle to get insurance without a motorcycle licence, and good luck trying to convince your local traffic cops that you are allowed to ride this "bike" without a helmet😁
When the scooter is moving forward at anything more than walking speed the tilt lock is always unlocked so it handles like a bike, and a pretty heavy bike at that! The reason for this is that if the forks could be locked upright while moving at even a very slow speed it would throw you off the first time you tried to turn! Even at the low speed at which the MP3 allows you to lock the forks ( when the orange light flashes) you can feel it trying to throw you off if to try to make a turn!
And contrary to what Peter says it does not "self level" when you turn on the tilt lock ... It locks the scooter at whatever angle you happened to be holding it at when you pressed the button, even if that was an overbalancing angle (At least my two did, maybe the one Peter is demoing had a self leveling feature I was unaware of)
Very vice bike.
Very to the point informative review
It seems the one button new to this tilting 3-wheel and must be known when to use it the self-balance slider button.
Sad the switch graphics aren't more though out as it. I
It has two tilled wheels for both sides with only a tiny locked/unlocked lock logo between the wheels.
Should of had the lock position with the wheels upright as would be on the bike with a locked lock logo and the unlock as it is now.
Been much clearer to understand and see.
Nit pick, but to my OCD it makes more sense.
Great video 👍 it would have been good to see you use the reverse gear.
Maybe you could do a review on the 2022/2023 model in the near future ?
Keep the videos coming
Great point! When the newest model arrives, I'll do that! Thanks for watching! Hopefully I can earn your subscription!
@@PeterLoweOne
Yes, I have definitely subscribed and thanks for replying
Nice review..
Curious about this machines horsepower, top speed & price in American dollars?
Keep up the good work!
I believe it has 40 horsepower, and a top speed of about 90mph. I don't have American prices at hand as I film in Canada. I hope that helps!
I like the idea of these, though if a large pot hole appears you have more width if you want to avoid it or get an imbalance of reaction at the front if the tyres hit it differently? Have you any experience of that? Thanks for the video BTW
A large pothole would upset a 2 wheeler as well. Honestly, I think this trike would handle it well. It has a real stability to it through many different road surfaces. It could feel different, in theory, but I think people who haven't ridden this underestimate the secure feeling of stability that this technology brings.
Wow I saw one today and I really like it cool scooter
Yeah, they're fun! They definitely stand out when you see one!
These are so cool…too big and scary for me but I love it!
Haha! They are pretty fun!
I am checking out the Piaggio MP3 because we have a Harley Davidson Tri-Glide and they ride like a dump truck. n
My wife is crippled due to cancer treatments and that's why we now ride a three wheeled motorcycle. She has battled cancer eight times, had 12 surgeries in ten years, maxed out on Chemotherapy, radiation and cyber knife treatments, She is currently on Immunotherapy treatments and will be every 28 days for the rest of her life. But she still likes to ride.
When one of the places of cancer in her brain caused her to have seizures, we went to three wheels. Our thoughts were if she had a seizure on a two wheeled motorcycle it might cause an accident. On a three wheeled motorcycle we feel that I should be able to pull over and tend to her needs.
I guess my biggest question is, How does it ride? How well does the MP3 handle pot holes, seams in the road any kind of bump? Mainly, how well does the rear wheel handle these things? On most motorcycles the rider doesn't feel the bumps and pot holes as bad as the passenger. In our case my main concern is PASSENGER comfort.
Please help. Thank you.
Great review, not to get to personal but how does it fit your frame. IE your height, inseam, did you feel comfortable on a 50 mile trip or how long have ridden it 10 minutes an hour etc. Thx
I thought it fit me well I'm about 6 feet tall with a 32 inch inseam (I think!) I haven't had the opportunity to take it on a long ride, but I'm very comfortable in saying that this would work for me on a long trim. I hope that helps! Thanks for watching!
Well done Peter. I've owned an mps 300 hpe sport for a year or so and love it. I believe the 500 has a reverse function? The 300 does'nt have that function. Cheers
Thanks for watching. I'll be honest. I didn't have as much time with this vehicle as I would have liked. It was sold the very next day. I'm looking forward to seeing the new updated model this year.
it doesn’t ‘self balance’ it locks - if you are in a ‘balanced state’ it will maintain that balanced position if that’s when you engage the locking mechanism
I love that it's 2024 and this video is only a year old, as opposed to the other 16 year old vids which I feel are obsolete, so I see I'm back to "reality". Looking forward to the results of the test so to speak since I'm in the market for the "ultimate riding machine" (No, I didn't say "driving" ...) EDIT : Wow, I had no idea it has reverse. This just may be the bike for me. A Goldwing is too big, and this seems just right.
It's made to slide into a legal loophole in the EU :) We have pretty strict classes of drivers licences.
If you have a license class B (A normal car) issued before 2012 or so... you can drive a tricycle regardless of CC!
To get a Class A (Full bike/MC) expect to pay 7-10.000 dollars plus 6 months of classes etc.
It is grate I love mine but my advice is to not use that front suspension lock but only at stand still or in parking for an short while.
A problem in driving it locked that last little bit to an stop will occure if the road is uneven. The machine might travel up on two wheels and then turn over.
It happend to me but I am pretty strong so it became to be a controlled drop without enjuries and broken parts but it was scary, very scary.
The machine should be driven like a bike!
With the front keept unlocked it is easy to handle where one can lean it side to side pretty deep without any problem, it is very well balanced and easy to contol in low speeds by using the throttle.
Nice video.
Thanks for watching!
Nice review, a few remarks... You can ride a motorcycle very well in the rain. And, speaking from experience, you will not stay dry on a scooter like vehicle when it really rains. I always have proper gear on, also on my large scooter. The only thing which is really better than most motorcycles is storage space. Yet the riding experience on a true motorcycle is, in my view, better, more pure. And I do ride both... By the way, I believe you ride them, not drive them. It still is not a car...
top speed and mileage in miles per hour and full tank distance in miles? Great review.
The orange light center of bottom console looks like a Star Wars Tie Fighter is on it. Can the speedometer be changed to show MPH instead of KPH? I don't do metric.
Can yu reverse with lock on or does it release ?
I drive the 350 MP3. As a selling point, I was convinced by the year-round usability of the MP3. But now I found out, there are no winter tires for the MP3s. Thus, the use of MP3s is difficult to use in winter. Are winter tyres planned?
I'm not aware of winter tires for it. Where I live, we don't tend to market it as a year round vehicle. It's certainly a vehicle that you could extend the season with, but I live in a Canadian province with 97% plus winter tire use on cars! So between the snow, the salt, and the level of snow clearing outside of the city, it's not really practical to ride anything other than an enclosed 4 wheel vehicle.
It's winter now here.. and still riding my MP3..
That's awesome! Do they salt your roads? That's always my concern here in Canada.
@@PeterLoweOne yeah a lot.. so we also have to clean a lot!
@@laurahaaima1436 Yeah, I can imagine! Thanks for sharing your experiences with me! That's awesome!
AWESOME video !!!
Although You are late to the show Sir, as the 2023 have been on the market since July/August 2022.
And another note:
The system is NOT self-leveling... it is only a LOCK/UNlock of the tilt system, if you are on a grade or angle it will LOCK the forks in the necessary angle for the bike to be upright - that's all.
Thanks for watching! I would have loved to film the latest version, but this is a case of, "you film what you've got!" and I had the chance to make this video so I took it. The bike ended up being sold within a day of me filming this. As far as "self levelling" you're right, I need to be a bit more precise in the way that I describe this feature, but it's very cool to have it basically catch you upright, and hold you! As I said in the video, this machine really impressed me. Again.. Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts!
Using the stability lock is fine in free flowing traffic, but it's not practical in stop start traffic, best to ride like a regular scooter, because when you throttle off you need to be be going somewhere!
I would ride it like you say, but I have heard from many people who use the system to avoid putting their feet down on nearly every stop. I guess it depends on the rider.
id buy one
Does it have floor pedals? I am asking for a person with limited leg use. This seems like an option for him. He can pedal a normal three wheel bicycle with effort. However, he does not have really sufficcient leg authority to manipulate leg pedals with ease. I will be interested in purchasing something like this if it is readily available. (South Africa) thank you for the info.
Like to see some new ones
Does the wheels stay locked while in reverse?
Great review, Peter, thanks. I'm from Ontario, looking to avoid buying a second car for the family, as most of the time it would be used for short errands or commutes that a motorbike could do easily. However, I've never owned a 2-wheeler, mainly safety concerns - But along comes the MP3 with 2 front wheels that allay most of my fears. My wife hates the traditional trike look (no offense to the CanAm) and the MP3 wins in that respect as well. But I was wondering about longevity of Piaggios, specifically the MP3? Would I be delusional to expect hassle-free (say) 8-10 years from a Piaggio? Typical annual maintenance costs would help as well. Thanks again.
Piaggio have been running around the world for a VERY long time with great reliability. I wouldn't expect a properly maintained machine to have any real issues in that timespan, for sure. As far as annual maintenance costs, I'm really not sure off the top of my head, but that could be found out by checking the owner's manual and the dealer that you buy it from. (P.S. I used to live in Ontario until Spring of last year!)
My Kawasaki Ninja 300 motorcycle has been very reliable, only problem I had was a blown headlight bulb. Bought the bike seven years ago (new). As for safety, you can be safe on a motorcycle if you are careful and try to see dangers before they become dangerous. Scottish roads can be busy, especially the cities. Hope you bought two or three wheeled vehicle and are having fun.
Does it counter steer?
What is the rego cost? Probably the same as a car which then becomes questionable what the intention of the government is to reduce the preference towards the car in general.I personally have one tomorrow but there must be some incentive towards my alternative thinking
there are the 2023 models - they carry 530cc engine - did you had a chance to try the 530cc ? (the 2022 also had 530 ) - did you feel any change ? also the new models have cruise control- did you try it ?
So far, the model in this review is the only one that I've had time with. I'm looking forward to spending more time with them in the coming year.
@@PeterLoweOne I think the 2023 just has navigator ion the LCD screen - and price tag of 2000$ more .
@@robertbarel896 I read recently that Piaggio is even going to make a 4 wheeled version. I am guessing it will be kinda like the Qooder quadro.
I purchased a used 2007 PIAGGIO MP3 250IE only problem I have on it issue is tiling system sensor! I been overhaul it every since I got it on 2019 of March after that I spend about $2,000 of parts upgraded & Mods on it! I take it get it inspected pass flying colors but now just sitting in the carport because I can not pass the written test for a motorcycle permit I try 15 times!
Oh man!! Thats a lot of attempts!
Join the club. Im from Australia but live in serbia. They dont offer the written test in english. So if you're not fluent in serbian, you have no chance to pass.
@@PeterLoweOne Mostly I have ADS so I have trouble reading! Mr. Peter
I have a Vespa S 150 and I been thinking about trade it for one of those MP3 , I been searching for one of them. They look cool and for what I hear, you don’t need a motorcycle license to drive it , just a regular license.
¿ How far can you drive with?
It depends on where you live when it comes to a motorcycle license. Where I film, you do need one. How far can you drive? Like on a tank of fuel? I haven't checked, but I'm sure many online forums will tell you. If you mean, is it comfortable enough for long trips, it absolutely is. I think it's a really interesting vehicle that's a lot of fun!
What about size differences between different 3-wheel scooters? I'm 189cm and would like to know, which of those 3-wheellers is most suitable, and I can get Peugeot Metropolis 400, Piaggio Mp3 and Yamaha Tricity 300 in my country. Which is then the most suitable and comfortable for taller rider for daily commutes to work and back (60 to 80 km's), partially highway. Thanks any1.
This isn't something that I can speak on as I'm only familiar with the Piaggio. I'll leave it to the comments to see if they can help you. (I'd go for the Piaggio! 😉)
I'm 183 cm tall and I don't feel comfortable wearing it. And trips over distances of more than 30 km are a nightmare.😢
I would love one of these but the price really puts me off,when I priced one it was the same as a Triumph Bonniville, couldn’t justify paying that so bought a Royal Enfield 650 GT Chrome for just over £6,000.
In Canada, I think these are priced fairly for what you get. But yeah, there are going to be motorcycles worth considering at this price point. I think this is a super cool vehicle, and I like it a lot, but I still bought a traditional motorcycle this past winter. You have to want this over a traditional motorcycle for it to make sense to most people. Having said that. This does make a strong case for being better than a motorcycle in many situations. Great traction, great wind and weather protection. A LOT of storage. It's a cool vehicle!
Good review, makes me interested in the bike. How fast are they going?
This bike was sold the next day. If you're asking about how fast they go? It should have a top speed over 140 km/h so plenty fast for any legal driving, at least where I'm from.
What year is this model. Wife and I are looking for something we both can ride (upgrading from a Vespa GTS and Piaggio Liberty 150). Need a back rest for the wife as she gets a sore back when driving her scooter.
I believe that this was a 2021 model. It has sold since I filmed this. The 2023 is similar but does include some nice technology updates.
I have question on passenger comfort and position. What is the passenger riding position and where are the passenger footpegs?
I've done a video on the latest version of this, I think I sat on the back seat. You should be able to see that video here. czcams.com/video/512a_HmDR1M/video.html&pp=ygUScGV0ZXIgbG93ZSBvbmUgbXAz If I didn't show you in this video, I'll make sure to make note of that in a future video.
it would be nice to see the structure of the suspension that allows it to lean and turn
I'll try to film that, but it's a little tougher to make sense of in a static shot. I will be making more videos on the updated model soon, including a riding review.
Go-to a dealership and check it out film it to please...
I can't ride a two wheel bike or motorbike. However, I can wide a tricycle. So would this be okay for me? Or would it be best to leave it?
It's much closer to a two wheeler than some think. You'd probably have to try it to be sure.
Does it come in Electric charging?
What is the max top speed?
What's the max miles range can travel?
It doesn't come in electric. It's too speed is about 140 km/h and I don't have the range memorized. Sorry.
Do you need a motorcycle license for this? The 300cc versions can be ridden on a car license without the need for a specific motorbike license. Is it the same for this 500cc version?
Licensing requirements vary by region. Where I film, you would need a motorcycle license that allows you to drive a motorcycle of this engine size, so yes, you would where I am.
@@PeterLoweOne Thanks....
In the U.K. you can drive this with a car licence, no extra test required.
How reliable is it and how expensive is it to maintain and insure compared to the competition
For those types of questions, the best thing to do is to search up owners groups or forums online. You'll be able to talk to a number of owners, or read what they say, and get a better idea of their real life experiences. I don't look into maintenance costs of everything that I review, so if one thing was a lot more or a lot less, I wouldn't know off the top of my head.
Mpg or km would help also how far it goes on a full tank. My trike does 418km ( filled up and ran it dry ) on 13L avg speeds
I'm always cautious with giving those numbers because the manufacturer doesn't always provide them, and it can really vary based on the riders. But I hear your point. A quick google search usually gives you a range. I like to look at actual owner forums where people post what they're getting because that allows you to see the range.
32 KPL?
What are you riding?
I used to get 32 KPL on the high-speed roads from my 2013 V-strom 650.
Are you on one like the one in the video?
Thanks.
How's the mpg and how much fuel can it hold?
I've heard it can get about 55 mpg. I believe it holds just over 12 litres, so about 3.2 gallons.
Do all of them have that balance hold function?
yes
To be clear, in the UK, not all MP3 (and Gilera Fuoco) models are entitled to be ridden on a car license (and without a helmet!). Only specific models which had wider wheel base were classed as a trike. Other MP3s were just normal bike. Also, if you have a newer car license, you may still have to do mandatory 1-day CBT bike training to ride this on car license. (Which i think is a welcome addition else lot of idiots on the road who has no clue how to ride).
Having said that I find that 500cc is pretty useless in this setup. It is more like a 250cc or even 125cc with 2up.
Not to mention the bad owner service reviews and costs. Not many mechanics wants to touch it which is why they dont maintain their value.🤦♂️
Thank God, a man who doesn't squish his teddy bear. Thank You kind sir!
Every motorcycle should be like this. Though there must be simpler ways to make the leaning system work.
But you could make a tall sports bike. Feet high up for ground clearance but no need to reach the floor. It’s like having retractable undercarriage without the jokes. Cornering will seriously P off your narrow thinking mates.
I'm not sure that every motorcycle should be like this. It isn't perfect, but it is pretty great. It looks like I'm going to be able to put a riding review together soon on the latest version of this bike (Trike?) so stay tuned for that!
I take it this is a 500cc machine? Some performance figures would have been nice. 0-60 time, top speed and mpg etc. Give us some idea of what it can do.
I'll be honest, I didn't have as much time with this bike as I would have liked. All of those figures can be found in a quick google search, but I don't like posting other people's data if I can't verify it. I did what I could with this while I had it, and it actually sold the very next day. I'll have the updated version in 2023, and I'll try to get some more information in that video.
But where is the roof, like on the BMW C1?
That would be with big wheels and a price to match,
a must have!
I'm not sure if everyone wants a roof. Sure that's great in the rain, but I'm not sure I'd want that on a bike like this.
@@PeterLoweOne OK roof not for everyoone. We need a cabrio.
But for me, I wish the MP3 have sex with the C1.
And we can buy the chidrens (OK sounds bad, verry bad ;-))
Also a point are bigger wheels.
What's the gas mileage like? What is it's cruising speed? Can I ride all day at 120km/hr.
I haven't had the chance to do a fuel mileage test, so the best thing to do is to google, and see what real world users are getting. As far as cruising all day at 120... you can! I don't know that you would want to, I would think, like any traditional motorcycle, you'd want to find secondary highways to have some more fun, but maybe that's just me.
I have a 500 and regularly use it on Ontario’s 400 series highways - it cruises easily at 120 km
Is there a dealer in California?
Oh, new Brunswick, is that in Australia?
It's in Canada.
Just viewed this episode.
Do you know anyone has taken this model off road/trails?
Is there a more aggressive tire for trails?
Personally, I'm not sure that I'd do that. Maybe others have, but this doesn't seem like it's designed for that.
I've ridden our 2008 400 aggressively on gravel roads and would have no qualms about riding it on dirt walking trails. No jumping through!
CAN I BUY AND ORDER ONE
Not self-centre with the tilt lock button - it locks at whatever angle the bike is at.
Can you ride on the high way?
Why it have so small cargo space?
Where can l buy one of these 3 wheelers in Halifax. Nova Scotia??
Make a call to Jim Gilbert's Wheels and Deals in Fredericton. They'll sell to Halifax!
What's it like in really tight corners. Thanks
You know what... I had fun with it in a lot of parking lot manoeuvres, and I was really impressed with it at any kind of speed in any kind of corner. I didn't try high speed sweepers, but it really does feel like a regular bike that's extra planted in corners. It's WEIRD... in the way that you know what it's doing, but it doesn't FEEL weird. It feels familiar.
When will this be available in Australia please?
I'm sorry, I don't have information like that on the Australian market.
They are already but there are better 3 wheelers in Australia.
It's funny that you don't need a motorcycle driver's license for this in Finland, even if it is a motorcycle. That is because it is registered in another vehicle category. I tested the 400 cc back in... 2008/09, maybe, and it was terribly slow. Ok in urban areas, quite good on cobble styones and on tram tracks, but going fast on the highway... no. Terribly slow, indeed. The funny thing was that all the moped teenagers in my home town laughed at his, regarded it as a vehicle for really old people who couldn't drive real motorcycles (a few of them actually thought this was some kind of vehicle for disabled persons).
They are far more safe for extreme cold ❄️ climates three wheels are far more stable in winter & during summer when you hit a curve with debris in the road like gravel or sand or wet leaves where a two wheeler will fall & crash