2023 Piaggio MP3 530HPE - Updated model! Complete In-Depth Review!
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- čas přidán 2. 07. 2024
- The 2023 Piaggio MP3 is one of the very best vehicles that I've tested this year. This is a perfect example of something being different for a purpose! With updated technology, an improved engine, and all of the goodness of a 3 wheeled vehicle that leans, this thing is the perfect vehicle for a whole lot of people! Want to see it for yourself? Connect with the amazing team at Jim Gilbert's PowerSports here: powersports.wheelsanddeals.ca...
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I've owned every model of these MP3s. The bike never slipped on anything.
Have a 2024 and love it! The only issue has been pairing it with my phone and helmet. All the instructions are lame. I’d love a video that addresses that connection process. Thanks! Great video!
If that's the biggest complaint, I'm in !
can you share with me the approximate consumption please?
Always fancied the stability of the two front wheels.
Makes loads more sense than two rear wheels.
Yeah, this thing always intrigued me, but spending time with it, it's a REALLY solid option for someone looking to get out on something motorcycle-like. I'm a big fan of it!
Just purchased the 2023 530 MP3. The “hand over” at the dealership in Edmonton contained very little information. Thanks for the video, I have learned a lot. FYI it has a “glove compartment” close to the windshield. This ended up containing the spare key that I found out after reading the manual.
Sounds as if Piaggio North America should be apprised of your Stealership experience.
I am waiting to hear you tell us about the Auto-Cancelling Turn Signals.
And the motor is a Single-Cylinder Thumper? Unlike the Kymco CV-3 and at least one Yamaha of similar configuration.
Hi, where did you find it in Edmonton?
@@quidestnunc9238Yep, single cylinder
WOW - thanks for the thorough description & explanation!
I've seen many other reviews in English and German. This is the most in depth one. Very well done!!!
I do own a 2020 MP3 500 and I love it all the way. I noticed this new one does not have a back rest on the seat for the passenger. It does have on mine and I also have the top case which also has a back rest. Coolest drive ever! Thanks for sharing all the info!
Fantastic review thx very much
Greetings again from the UK Peter. Excellent detailed video as always. I love this new MP3 530 HPE.
I bought my first 2017 MP3 300 Business in Jan 2023 with 8k on the clock. I really enjoyed it with zero problems. Nothing but fun.
Last week I have upgraded to a MP3 500 2021 HPE. I pick up this newer model in 2 days time. I cannot wait because I haven't even rode it yet.
The new 2023 model you are testing looks beautiful, modern and still practical but out of my budget at £11,500 (UK). I will get one in a couple of years time.
My new 2021 MP3 500 was £7300 and only has 800 miles on the clock. I went to my local dealer with a friend who was buying a bike and could not let this model pass.
It comes with Sat Nav, heated grips, heater for your legs, reverse gear, low mileage, an official Piaggio colour matching backbox and a bigger engine than my previous model.
As you mentioned, the MP3's are so much fun, cheap to run and practical. I still have my car but only drive it occasionally now I have an MP3. I will ride my scooter all year round. l would definitely recommend these MP3's to anyone considering buying one. You can now buy the 300cc, 500cc or 530cc.
Excellent review!!! Thank you!!
Thanks for watching! I just saw your other comments now. Enjoy your time in Spain!
I have a 2019 HPE 500 Sport. Very pleased with it. I started doing my own maintenance on it since Piaggio dealerships are no good money grab. I use the bike all year round no matter the weather. Donno about the new features, I'm most excited about the integrated nav, otherwise all other features I can leave without
I orddered my 2023 MP3 back in August 2022 and received it on April 01, 2023. In 2013 I bought my first MP3, a 2009, it had 450 miles on it, it was a demonstrator. I put another 60000 miles on it befor I wore the engine out. I've had my new bike for two monthes and I love it. I ride it in the comfort mode. My big problem with it is trying to find the trunk mount and the soft ware hasn't been upgrade yet, according to Piaggio they are working on ti
Yes the app is absolutely very bad 😩
About the self balancing feature: You can use it at stoplights so you can keep your feet up but as soon as you drive off again it will also automatically release the lock. So you cannot forget to get the lock off again which is a huge plus.
I had a Piaggio 400 MP3 for a while. I hoped my wife would get the bug but she never did and the bike was sold. It was a fun machine to ride and had plenty of power. I would have preferred the 500 for any touring but the 400 was OK. I own a Suzuki Burgman 650 AN Executive scooter - I feel the Burgman was better than the Piaggio in terms of storage in the dash and under the seat. I did like the 3 wheels with extra traction and stability and the locking mechanism which I rarely used except to show off at the lights was a good feature for those concerned about holding up the bike when stopped. The newer version of the Piaggio has much more tech than earlier versions which I think is an improvement. I also own Can Am Spyder and you are correct that the wider wheels and much more stable but there is a tendency, until you learn the technique, to be thrown off in turns. This is a very comprehensive and thorough review.
The dummy switches mentioned at 23:00 are probably where you can place the optional heating
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The main reason for this motorcycle and tricycle setup in particular popularity in Europe is that you don't need to have a motorcycle license for it, car license is enough. In general one can ride a scooter up to 125cc with a car driving license or trike without a displacement limit, as long as it has L5e homologation.
It’s brilliant! I've got a Kawasaki ZH2 and a Harley Road Glide ST but for everyday city riding it's the Piaggio every time! 😃
One of those extra dummy buttons are usually used for seat heating or controlling a heating blanket if you use one. ... Or both.
A really great review on the new mp3 530 exclusive, the small blank is for heated grips to installed I have one the only thing I don’t like about the new tft screen is that the pairing it to the phone app keeps crashing and doesn’t work properly for the navigation to work so it just better to fit a Tom Tom and use it for the great twisties routes . 😊
Awesome! Thanks for that.This thing would have benefitted from heated grips today. I road my motorcycle to work today and heated grips made all the difference!! Thanks for watching!
Thank you 😊 it is just the Piaggio app on the phone that lets it down
@@adamhughes5358 Yeah. I've been in the auto industry for a when. Automotive apps in general are pretty terrible! Hopefully Piaggio can improve it.
It works well in snow and ice, even with a strong side wind! (ask me how I know). 2016 MP3 500 (Alberta)
A very pleasant long journey cruiser my wife loves it but it also likes twisty roads like a true Italian.
There is a very twisty backroad in nearby that I use as part of my testing track in scoring bikes.
I could not belive how easy and quick the Mp3 made it thru where most ordinary non sport bikes will more or less put up an protest and a specialy the low powered ones. The bends are deep and steep close to each other all the way thru where ordinary scooters with auto/CVT transmission will loose their breath for sure not being able to catch it up and in most cases I have to take them by their horns pointing out the direction and that is not a good thing on a twisty road. These machines are whatever the advertising and looks will tell us, for urban commuting only. The Mp3 got lots of torque/grunt a wonderful transmission, exellent road handling and the opposit occurs, I am to hold it back.
I remember that the bottom rises up, and I believe the back folded flat, but I never used that function as much as rising the bottom up. Maybe someone who has one can remind us. We're currently out of stock of these.
@@PeterLoweOne Perahps there is a language barrier playing cous I am not a english speaking person but there are nothing that will rise or go flat on my 2019 Mp3 500 Sport.
This bike seems so nice. I currently have a Burgman 400 and my hubby was looking at bikes and ran across this one. I know the weight on this is heavier than my Burgman 400 and I know this has that button to basically make the bike stay upright and help backing up (I know how helpful that will be because I sometimes have difficulties backing up my current bike), would it not be too heavy for a shorter rider? I'm only 5'1''
Yes but with the reverse gear and camera it would be a lot easier than 2 wheeler because it also locks up the front to stay up right 😊
I have a 2021 with a weight of 621 lbs. At over 6 ft tall it is manageable for me, but for your height it could be disastrous.
TIP: To switch between Eco, Sport, and Comfort riding modes, ensure the motor is running, bring the vehicle to a stop, and then press the start button to select your desired driving mode.
You haven't mentioned the gearbox. I presume it's CVT with sport mode and manual override???
I have a 2020 Can-Am F3 Spyder Limited now. How different is this as far as handling than the F3?
I traded in a H-D Fat Bob as my ankles are very weak.
Do you need to put your feet down at anytime to support the vehicle?
The handling on this is quite a bit different than your Can-Am Spyder. This leans to turn just like a traditional motorcycle. Technically you could drive it without having to put your feet down, as you can click a switch that can lock it upright every time you come to a stop, but it's not something that I would recommend to people who never want to put their feet down. There's a bit of a timing thing to learn to get it right every time, but the rider should be ready to put their feet down with every stop. So again, you may find that it works for you, and I definitely find it easier to balance at a stop than a traditional motorcycle, but I feel most comfortable telling people to get used to putting their feet down every stop, and then let each individual rider determine if that's necessary for them.
Thanks for showing. Is there a 300 version available in Canada?
No, there's not. Thanks for watching!
@@PeterLoweOne Gotta buy the 530 then. I really don't think there's anything else that would do. Yamaha came out with the Niken but it's too try-hard. This is more like it.
Great job I want one. I assume you don’t counter steer this.
It's funny because you actually do. I drove my motorcycle to work today and I was thinking that I had to unlearn what I know, but if you think about it, it turns by leaning, so the physics are the exact same to drive this as driving a motorcycle.
I bought one here in uk in December 2nd one registered in uk its good when it runs but bits keep braking down currently in the shop as a non start only got it back 3 weeks ago from a burst water pipe and rebuild to frount end due to bad bareings
Sorry to hear that it keeps breaking down I got mine on the 4/8/22 (1348 off the production line) done 2080 miles and parked in the winter just done 400 miles around the Peak District ok .hopefully it will get fixed asap ( i had 500 business for about 18 months had a recall due to brakes in for 6 weeks got it back just in time to go to Yorkshire for 5 days in July came home found the new one got it straight away enjoying it 😊
Have you tried the app on the phone as mine crashed after about 6 weeks kept trying but just put a Tom Tom on it as the maps is not very good Paiggio needs to speed a little time and money on it as at £11,500 in the uk you expect it all to work properly 😮
I would like to see how the reverse worked...good review though.
I had the 2007 and the 2016 now
Nice! I'll be doing a riding review of this model soon.
Gave up bikes (R1200RT et al) because of the physical effort, particularly holding them upright when manoeuvring them around manually (its an age thing!). This might be an option to return....🙂
Yeah! This is heavy, but it is definitely easier to move around than a regular motorcycle. Definitely something worth checking out!
Any news on the difference between 2023 and next years model 2024
I think this is being released around the world in a staggered way. So this likely is the 2024 model where you are. This is a just updated model for 2023. I don't expect another update in 2024
Hi Pete. Just one question. Can the handbrake be locked on when when unattended?
Yes just turn the bars to the left and turn it off at the switch to far left and the bike is fully locked 😊
When does it come to Australia?
Great question, I'm not sure... I film in Canada, and I don't have that information at hand.
When you can buy one in the u s ?
Can this still tip over if leaned too far to the left or right even if it has 3 wheels? or is it really had to accidently tip it over?
It's tough to tip it over, but it wouldn't be impossible.
Can you leave the tilt lock on and drive it around corners or on the highway/ city and its safe? so someone who is too afriad to keave it unlocked?
You can't , but trust me, it would be much more scary having it locked while you drive. You want the wheels to move independently over bumps, and turning would be incredibly difficult if the vehicle didn't lean into the turn.
so you can only lock it when your coming to a stop? or parking? u cant lock it while moving?
@@PeterLoweOne
is the cruise control on this adaptive?
No a normal one
cup holder?
I live in south Florida, where is the closest dealer in my area to look at them?
I'm not sure. You could check Piaggio's website and see their dealer listings from there. You may have to call the dealer just to make sure they have an MP3 in stock. We only have one left right now.
3:46 You got somewhere else you need to be..? Thanks for posting, informative & interesting.
I use my watch as a view finder. Sometimes I'm a little tight between starting the recording and starting to speak, other times I'm trying to glance to see if what I want in the frame is still in the shot etc.
Where is it?
great review. I was wondering, how tall are you and are there ports built in for charging?
Yes in the glove box above the tft screen I have one and I’m 5 feet 7 inches
It's a Leaning Reverse Trike
145 kilometers per hour =
90.099 miles per hour
Hello Peter - Just wondering how tall you are, as it seems like quite a high seating position.
I have one with a 27 inch inside leg on tip toe but use the locking mechanism or just move forward and it is all good 😊
@@adamhughes5358 thanks Adam! Plus it"s always good to hear from the tribe!
I'm about 6 feet tall, but as the previous comment mentioned, you can make this work if you're shorter than me.
@@PeterLoweOne Thanks Peter, good to know.
Where can you buy this vehicle. I live in Lakeland,Florida.
We film in Canada. The best thing to do would be to check the local Piaggio website.
What would you say are the recommended rider height and weight for this bike? Im a short rider.. not very beefy either.
I don't think height or weight matter as much for this bike. You will probably fit just fine, and be able to handle it without any more issues than a taller rider.
I’m 5 feet 7 inches and I have no problem with it
@@adamhughes5358 I'm 5'6" 120lb. I've gotten much better with it :)
If you misjudge and it falls over, how difficult is it to get it back up?
Very hard if yo are small as it’s very heavy but you can do it 😊
They don't let me drop stuff here, so I haven't tried. I would say that it's probably harder to drop than a regular bike, but it isn't super light, you may need a second person if that happens.
Almost as hard as with an Harley, 280kg...There are good instructions about lifting up a heavy bike. I had to make it once and I did it the proper way, not by near so hard as one would belive.
Do you need to unlock the steering to ride it on the street?
Yes. It needs to lean to turn.
It unlocks automatically at 2000 revs or 8 m p h which ever comes first 😊
I like the 300 HPE sport better. This too much specially for the pricing. But its still a good one. I will for the 300
Who is this for? Its for me, I'd love one
Haha! They are pretty great! I'm going to be doing a riding review of this soon! Feel free to subscribe!
I wonder how much the price on this MP3 530 PIAGGIO? Is there any dealership here in Northern California, I live here in Napa, California.
We sell in Canada, I'm not sure what the U.S. has for inventory or pricing.
@@PeterLoweOne thank you for your response, but I found somewhere and you can order, price $11,999.
pricing ?
Thanks for the video dude, but don't you ride it???
Sometimes I can't, as these are new models that we want to keep as new for customers, but this is one that I'm expecting to be able to ride a little later. Stay tuned!
It’s great and completely designed and owned by BMW
You didn't cover the following: - Cost of the vehicle / Fule consumption / Side panniers, boxes for extra luggage space.
I never list the price as things can change. You can use the link in the description to see the price, and know that you're getting up to date information. As far as the rest of the information, that's all great feedback for me to put in the next video. Lastly, I don't usually talk about fuel consumption because that can really vary based on conditions. The best way to see real world fuel consumption on any motorcycle (or trike) is to check out online owner's forums where you can see the range that people are posting and the types of riding that they do. Motorcycles and scooters aren't like cars, fuel mileage can really vary based on riders and riding conditions.
@@PeterLoweOne Brilliant, thanks for letting me know. Yes, I'll do that.
Does it unlock in Reverse
No as it’s only going at 1 mph and uses the battery and starter motor to go backwards and only for about 20 seconds then cuts off for about 30 seconds before it goes again 😊
How is it on hwy speeds ?
It has an electronically limited top speed of just over 140 km/h (88 mph) so it's definitely capable on the highway, but you should be aware of it's limitation in a passing manoeuvre. Other than that, I think it will serve people very well!
@@PeterLoweOne Thank you sir … I thinking of going to a bike like this from my Goldwing …. I’m in my 60s now and I’ve had 44 motorcycles in my lifetime and I still wanna ride so I’m trying to decide what I would like to go to. Thank you again for all your help.
I have had the Piaggio 500 for about 18 months and now I have the 530 for about 8 months and I really recommend it as I never had anything apart from cars for 40 years and lorry’s , you will enjoy it as you step through it and with the locking mechanism you will have no problems getting to know it and better still you will not regret it but you might need to test ride one as it may take you 5 minutes to get used to it 😊
@@adamhughes5358 thank you for the great info.👍
Self-Cancelling Turn Signals ?
Single Cylinder engine ?
Turn signals are not self cancelling 😮
Did I miss the price?
Because pricing can often change, I leave it off the videos, but you can check the link in the description for up to date pricing.
Hi sir
Is it good for person with disability?
Like the person who can't use their legs to hold the bike
Can they use it easily?
Please reply 🙏
Not really sure as it’s very heavy and it will fall over if it is not locked in place when you come to traffic lights or a junction etc maybe look at the cam- am ryker as about the same price range in the uk
I own 2007 Piaggio MP3 250IE and miles on it 3089! Only problem I had on it is Tilting system senor and exhaust muffler & lose key! I do have keycode card but having trouble finding somebody make me a key in Texas can you tell where can I find key maker!
Where is the gas tank at on it
In the middle between your legs and it’s electric open witch is on the left of the dashboard
530 cc and 2 cylinders or one ?
It's a single cylinder engine. Great for good torque!
Hi
Do you need a full bike licence to ride this? any thanks
It would depend on where you live. Here in New Brunswick, Canada, you would need a motorcycle license. In other areas, three wheeled vehicles are considered to be cars, and you can ride them with a car license.
Just looks a bit 70s Logan’s run ish!😂😂😂😂Mad max experience!
You use the term North America. Those of us that live in the USA. Is it legal, how to purchase one, repair issues, and parts for diy repair? Should anyone in the USA even be looking at one?
Yes, as a matter of fact I'm buying one in Alabama. It has to be shipped here and the dealer who it is shipped to handles the maintenance.
If parked can someone turn the staberlizer of without the key
I believe the steering can be locked, but yes you could move it around your garage without having to use the key etc. We move it around the showroom here regularly.
Turn steering to the left and lock it the switch is next to the handbrake. And once it is turned off you will need to be within range as it is keyless so with out the key you can do anything 😊
Sorry can’t do anything
Q: Can you ride it in the #SUPERMAN position??
I'm sure someone can! Not sure if that someone is me though!!
City driving in the UK...........how easy is it to steal ?Because it may be easy to park but it wont be there when you get back.
The steering locks and it’s ok but if you have to use up too 3 disc locks and you don’t have to worry but the app if it works you can use it for find my bike or better yet put a tracking device on it 😊
Sorry it’s keyless and it’s heavy so unless you have a lift or 2/3 men I don’t think it’s worth it but everything is stealable so you just have to make it as hard as possible for the professionals to get it away
I'm not all that experienced in stealing motorcycles... so I'm not sure, but it looks like a previous comment gave some good information.
The redesign of the headlights and tech upgrade sells it for me I’ve always wanted one but that goofy ass face on then previous design kept me away
oh Peter, the definition of a salesman ...
I'm not a salesman. I don't sell these. I'm just a fan of this! I think it's cool!
dude why didn't you ride it ?
I'll be doing a riding review very soon.
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Im getting a 3wheeler but I can't choose between the metropolis and the piaggio, piaggio drives better but it's butt ugly , looks like a duckface lol, where the metropolis looks cool and has two lights instead of the one...wich triggers my ocd
Try the new 530 exclusive as it is a lot better than the old 500 also i believe the locking mechanism is a lot better than the rest of the 3 wheelers out there and maybe more dealers out there for services 😊
Also the 530 exclusive comes with blind spot detection is capable of doing 95 mph where legal of course 😊
I think I would go for Peugeot Metropolis. Top speed about 138 per GPS, more storage, nicer design, flat floor, great suspension (especially on back with SW version and its Paolio suspension), slightly different design of front which is in theory cheaper, adjustable wind shield and so on.
It looks like a great machine overall, but since when does a scooter need a freaking back up camera?
Yeah. The automotive world is changing quickly! I'm not sure we need all the features that we get, but then on the other hand I keep seeing these features for the first time and saying, "That's cool!!"
It's only great in urban tight spots when you park in. But hey it's very very very useful there.
It's not a trike, it's actually a bike!!!!!!!!!! :)
Three wheels, trike to me!
@@PeterLoweOne 🙄
this scooter costs like a brand new car!
It's not that much in Canada, but it isn't an entry-level scooter by any means.
Do u need a driving licence.
In the uk you have to have a full car licence before 2013 and I recommend that you do a basic training course if you have not been on motorcycles or scooters 🛵before it is a days course and it is not a pass or fail they just teach the basics in car park before going out on the road about 6/7 hours 😊
After so many years. Passenger fotpins exactly on that high to destroy your nes and no komfort for passenger😅 and seat is still to short. Why just why dont make it longer for driver?😂 Me 176cm kant have no space and my ass hurts after 20min driving... No space for legs. My 50cc kina scooter have place for feets😂 and i kan do 2/3hours run without feel my ass...
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Kymco cv3 seems a better option
I don't agree. The quality, power, lots of things about this make it the nicer unit in my opinion.
I also don't agree. Piaggio is quite technologically advanced... even some of those technical things were used for the first time on a motorcycle.
And you just mean that, because cv3 seems scarier, more powerful...
Why do you think so? Because 2 cylinder engine? True that helps performance, quality should be better with Kymco (sorry Piaggio, but late years are harsh on you in that regard). Kymco is more expensive, does not have underseat storage practically, separated seats is totally stupid design, rear case completely eliminate your passenger seat. Is more like a Yamaha Niken which can't stand on its own (similar with Tricity 125/300). On the other hand don't understand why most expensive Piaggion does not have configurable wind shield even if manually, there is no front storage except that small one for the phone, suspension sucks a lot on bad roads. In my opinion Peugeot Metropolis 400 SW is kicking the a.. of both for way lower price (plus has step through design)
The twin cylinder engine is good for more of a touring machine in my opinion
blabla bla you say always the same come to the point pleas