The MAM Journals-Yamaha Tracer 9GT +. The Perfect 10?
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- čas přidán 16. 07. 2024
- Bike magazine describe the GT+ as "The defining "mid size"upright sports-tourer.Not the cheapest ,but easily the best . Fabulous . 10/10"
When Kings Two Wheel Centre took one in part exchange , it was the ideal opportunity to try one. How did I get on riding it? What did I think of the specification and triple engine? Do I think it is the Perfect 10?
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This engine gets rave reviews but the messy looks and overall styling would put me off. Another great review, cheers.
Always great to hear from you . Engine is impressive but like you , the bike is not to my eye ..
@@michaelmam it's easy these days to get caught up in numbers games & at the end of the day the best tool of measure everything in the bum gauge fitted to the nut on the bars.. fork rake bares nothing to do with head angle.. trail is the measure that affect stability & corner tip in.. BUT.. know that extending forks shortens trail & increases tip, into corners extending head stock angle does the opposite.. to a point.. rear tire track change vs front in corners are a big factor.. more as rear tires get wider.. just note a bikes trail or it gets messy to explain effects.. love your reviews 🇳🇿🇳🇿nz
@@Errol.C-nz Glad you enjoy them . Thank you .
Aware that the rake is determined by the yokes , invariably off set to the head stock , but trying to keep to broad principles . As you know sports bikes tend to have sharper rake than tourers and was trying to avoid adding trail to the numbers game . As I suspect you already know , the best engineers tend to answer questions with “ well it depends” 😂
Appreciate you watching and taking the time to comment .
Just bought one! tested 5 other bikes in the segment,BMW xr900, Kawasaki Versys 1000 , Kawasaki 1000 sx Suzuki GSX 1000 GT and Suzuki GSXs GX , it was the best for me. As to the comment below stating " Stupid Bike" what a STUPID comment!!!!
All good bikes . Always think the best way is to , as you have clearly done, make a logical short list and then try them . Doesn’t matter what journalists or CZcamsrs think . You buy the one that suits you 👍
Thanks for demonstration the YAMAHA TRACER 9 GT+.I HAVE THE FAZER1000 (Year 2000-2005) a very fast/stable bike since 20006 as new❤
Another great review. Keep up the great work.
Thank you . Glad you enjoyed it 👍
Excellent review, thank you for the video
Glad you enjoyed it . Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment . 👍
Love this bike - my issue is I already have the Tracer 9GT (replaced my VStrom from Kings) and I just can't justify the upgrade. It's the understated King of the touring market, less tiring to ride, more agile, lighter and far more economical than my mate's GS with near identical carrying capacity and similar real-world performance. No wonder they've sold millions of the things! It's my go-to-bike these days especially with the rainy weather this year. I do find the comments about the seat and the riding position strange. The same things are said on all the reviews, it's identical to the old 9GT which seems to suit me fine at 80kg 5'10" with a 30" inseam. Thanks as always for a great review!
It is definitely a good bike but the lowered one I tested didn’t really fit me . Reflecting on it , some of the finishes/fitting weren’t as good as I would have expected . The engine is the strong point . 👍
As usual another very good review, well done. I have this exact same bike in the same colour, I’m very happy with it. The bike corners like it on rails, with the panniers off it’s a great bike for a Sunday blast. Going touring on it in July looking forward to that. Thanks again.
Have a great tour !
I did wonder if the lowering link and dropping the forks though the yokes, had compromised the handling a little 🤔
You know it’s Friday when you mis-hear 130mm as 130ml 😂
Not a big fan of the looks and 15K seems a little salty for a 900cc middleweight, even bearing in mind everything included (unless you want an MV Agusta, in which case it’s a bargain). I do wish some TFTs didn’t have a huge empty border around them - looks awful. Another fair and objective review.
😂… I am also in the “aesthetically challenged” camp . Testing a KTM soon which may slot into the “visually disadvantaged “ sector 🤔
I did think the GT + was a genuinely good bike but like you , was not entirely convinced by the dash .. each to their own 👍
I tried the GT (non+) and the most upsetting thing for me was the seat. It was too wide to the point I was getting cramps when putting my feet down. For reference, I am 1.76 (5'9") and by no means I have a narrow hip. Also, the seat/footpeg arrangement made my torso want to lean forward while the bars are forcing me towards a straight position which ended up exerting pressure on my lumbar area. I thought maybe it's a sport tourer thing that I don't like but then I tried the suzuki GSX S1000GX and that worked really nice in terms of comfort. Still not as comfortable as my 2023 V Strom 1050(non DE) though :) But it is a lively and spirited good bike.
Great video Michael I'm not into crossing continent's these days so it's not for me and seems a little on the rich side for my wallet but each to their own.
Thanks Ian . I thought it was quite a lot of money as well . Good bike , but for me , not perfect .
I have the 2016 model....love it...better styling too
Great review and fair. I wondered if you have ever tried the Niken?
Thank you . Sadly I do not normally have access to Yamahas for long enough to make an objective review . Dont know anybody who has one but if I get a chance to test one , I will . Interesting looking bike ..
Was just about pop out and do some gardening, but…..along comes another Mam Journals video, and the plants can wait an hour.
First up, I really couldn’t buy this Yamaha just on its rather strange looks alone. And not too keen on the TFT and general layout. However, the motor is a peach with aural sensations thrown in. The benefit of this bike is, yes it can tour, but remove the ugly duckling panniers and you’ve got a very accomplished sports bike to play with. Overall, though, for the price, not for me. The MT-09 offers more value.
😂 Thank you .
Aesthetically , it is not to my taste either . Very capable though.
I have a 2019 and really enjoy it. Great on the highway, lightest in class, fun engine. I even did a track day on it, though the 185km/h electronic limit isn’t fun, haha.
The current generation is so ugly that I’d never consider upgrading. The ‘face’ of the bike looks like it’s puckering, I can’t stand it, haha.
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I think its normal to ramp up preload if lowered because it might stop it bottoming out .
In principle I agree . I was just surprised it was so high ..
I've got a 2019 and it's... fine. It is a good value proposition but it's hideous and feels pretty cheap in places. The wind buffeting was also insanely bad at highway speeds.
So not a 10 for you either ?
I have the 2019 gt and love it. Now clocked up 30.000 miles mainly touring Europe. It feels just as quick as my 22 MT10 in the real world. I changed the stock screen to a small sports screen, which I prefer.
@@marksimpson5218 Thanks Mark . Always great to hear from experienced owners . Real world feedback 👍
hello, I was deciding between the mt09 and the gsxs1000gt and ended up choosing the gt. How would you compare them? did I make the right decision :)? thx
As I have a Suzuki 1000GT , possibly the wrong person to ask 😂 We have toured on ours and now have about 10500 miles on it. Very pleased with it …
@@michaelmam a seasoned reviewers review comparison gt vs gx.. I find modern digital comparators (##) aren't as good as our old kit, analog ones.. old skool engineer 😵💫🇳🇿🇳🇿nz
The only- and one - thing that I’m worried about with this bike is te wind buffeting.
I don’t know about any fix for it on the aftermarket.
at 176 cm I was ok. You get a good amount of air but to me it felt clean, all the way up to 150 kph. To be fair though, I only had it for about 400 kms, as a loaner while my bike was getting serviced.
Solid review, as always. Thank you.
However, I simply do not understand why Yamaha threw an entire can of ugly at this bike. It has the potential to be a solid bike but how do you get past the looks? I cannot. And the MSRP is ludicrous. Too many other good, lightweight ST style bikes available for lots less, especially if you buy used.
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Yep, I couldn't agree more. Alot of the new Yamaha's hit every branch falling out of the ugly tree.
@@nickfountain8420I think a few people find the bike aesthetically challenged ..
@@michaelmam 🤣
I tested this bike last week. The seat position is strange. You have the seating position of a motard. For a touring bike its not comfortable. Also the seat padding is hard.
Seating position is influenced by body , leg and arm length . We are all different. If it wasn’t right for you , thats all you need to know 👍 Plenty of good bikes out there ..
I personally dislike TFT and rider modes, and l don't like the plastic Jetski design.
There's so many ugly plastic bikes around today, it's hard to tell what's what.
The Kawasaki Z 900 is a beautiful bike with analog clocks but l find these TFT SCREENS dangerous.
Both eyes 👀 on the road at all time and know where your going .
Rider Modes = £ 5000
I think one of the reasons that the retro market has done so well is the demand for a simpler approach ?
Many combine a classic looking dash whilst still incorporating modern technology - traction and modes . I am glad we have so many choices !
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment !
I'm not a fast rider,and then you blur the speedo! Personally, I wouldn't have touched the bike once I realised the suspension had been messed with. Can't be sure that the handling is true.
@@David-th2ug I would always prefer to test a factory specification bike if I can . I rarely have an opportunity to ride Yamaha’s long enough to make a video ,so I took it . The factory lowering link had been fitted and the changes made appeared to be in line with what dealers do when they install it . It was ok but nothing more .
Oxfordshire A roads are now 50 mph and sometimes less . The same roads in Gloucestershire are mostly 60 . I am not a fast rider but occasionally reach these heady heights and maybe a little over .
A Stupid Bike
It sells well . Some people like it but clearly not to your taste ..
Another fantastic and fair review of a great bike. I do like the Tracer and would consider getting one in the future. However, personally, I prefer the looks of the Suzuki GSX1000GX. Keep up the good work. 🫡
@@julianroberts9757 Thanks Julian . Lots of very good bikes in this category at the moment . Spoilt for choice !