The MAM Journals -Suzuki 800 RE - A Universal Japanese Adventure (UJA) bike of today?
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- The Suzuki 800 Road Explorer is the latest bike from Suzuki with the new 776cc Parallel Twin . I go through the specifications of the bike , go for a ride and then come to some conclusions. I also reflect on the price of bikes today . Are they really more expensive than they were "back in the day" or is it just that everything else has gone up?
Many years ago we referred to Japanese four cylinders , in a cradle frame as UJM , Universal Japanese Motorbikes . Good value, reliable and capable . Are these new generation of adventure bikes , the UJA , "Universal Japanese Adventure" bikes of our time ?
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I just got it as my daily commuter. Its very comfortable and gives me the styling points i like. A windscreen, largish gas tank, and no lower fairing. It's a fun engine very responsive with a fairly smooth throttle
I have its predecessor , the 650 XT . Great “working” bike . The 800 will be a strong contender , when I replace it 👍
Thanks for the good review. Recently I bought one of these. Can't wait to start riding!
Have fun . Very capable bike 👍
Thanks for another detailed, enjoyed and well thought review.
You are welcome . Thanks for taking the time to comment 👍
Nice, detailed and calm review. Thats very rare these days, well done. Thanx! Greetings from Austria!
Thank you . I try to make videos, I would like to watch . They aren’t to everyones taste but I make them for fun so don’t worry if they are too calm for some 😂👍
Excellent review Michael, thanks for that.
Glad you enjoyed it . Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment 👍
Thanks for another excellent review! Having ridden the 3 vstroms available,i think this one represents the best combination of versatility-performance-comfort-economy! A great bike for everyday!
I really appreciated your putting the bike into a larger context and history of pricing. We all see the top of the range and think about how expensive everything has gotten. But good deals are still available and you were right on the money when pointing that out.
Thank you . I think it is a good bike and fair value . Good to see the technology of the more expensive bikes cascade into the less expensive ones … like quick shifters 👍
Another great review. Thx!
Thanks for watching David . Glad you enjoyed it !
Current own a 06 Vstrom 650 love it , looking forward to own the 800RE. (great video).
What a beautiful bike. Its my favorite version of the new Vstrom 800.
@@richardavila7052 Rides well . Good allrounder 👍
Great info, on my shopping list for sure, test ride needed.
Glad it was helpful!
Great review, it's taken too many years to realise I love the VStrom 650 having derided that engine for years. I tried one and fell in love. Finally the skill in my head has matched the bike underneath. This is another tempter. I'm no Marquez, just normal.
Thank you Alexander . Glad you liked it .
Truth is , most of us are “just normal” … moto GP riders are occasionally labeled as “aliens” for good reason 😂
Well done! Thank you
I really like this bike, the goldilocks of vstroms. haven't had a test ride yet, great video Michael.
Review of the 8R comes out on Thursday ! With the DE , RE , 8S and R you certainly have plenty of choice … 👍
Great presentation. Subscribed!
Thanks and welcome 👍
Display modes. I especially liked the blurred out mode which you very aptly demonstrated 👍😁
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it is a very complete and nice review 👍tks
@@albtaran59 Glad you liked it . Thank you . 👍
I bought one a while ago and it's been a great bike so far. Just finished touring around the Highlands of Scotland with my wife on the back and a full top box and managed 256 miles on a tank with 3 litres left. Handling feels pretty sharp and confidence inspiring. Comfort for rider and pillion is very good and I'm told the pillion seat is more comfortable than my previous bikes, a KTM 1090s and a Kawasaki Versys 650. I fitted radiator guard, rear hugger, top box and heated grips. The bike was a bit of a bargain and got a pre reg for £7995. My son was with us on the trip and has a Versys 650 and is keen to do a track day so not doubt the Vstrom 800re will be circulating round Knockhill at some point. Great review and as someone it's the goldilocks of bikes which I have to agree with.
@@iainmacpherson6049 Always great to hear from owners . Thanks for watching and sharing your experience. 👍
I've seen another review that complained of intrusive vibration at 75mph or 120kph.
Have you experienced any vibration?
I currently reducing down my new motorcycle choices and the vstrom RE is high on my list.
@@MotoTourIreland I've haven't noticed any vibration, although all bikes vibrate to some extent.
@@MotoTourIrelandI didn’t notice any excessive vibration on the one I tested either . Good bike in my opinion 👍
@@iainmacpherson6049 That's great news for me.
Great! Thank you !
Thanks - I enjoyed the content and the presentation. I like simple 'no nonsense' bikes and ride a Honda CB500X, which is a great all rounder but lacks a little power on motorway jaunts. This Suzuki 800 RE might be the bike that encourages me to do some sums! We are spoilt for choice these days and there really is a bike available to suit every practical need and taste. Cheers.
Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment Quentin . No nonsense is a good description of the RE . It does what it says on the tin . 👍
They all look so similar to me, not the type of bike i would buy but i did really enjoy the video, as usual.
Yes Ian , they are universal .. they ride well .
Just bought mine V Strom 800 Touring model or RS here in California. Great bike.
Have fun . Very capable bike 👍
Thank you, Michael, for another well thought out and researched motorcycle review. I believe this Suzuki is very good value for money, and I would personally consider owning one were it not for the issue of my currently owning one or two bikes too many. Suzuki’s always, for me at least, were not that well finished but offered a great engineering package. Having inspected the RE 800 up close, I have to say it does look well made and robustly finished. I think you were spot on with your ‘universal Japanese adventure’ bike’s comment. Currently this Suzuki fits in to the slot beautifully and at a very fair price.
Hi Nigel . I always think having “one or two bikes too many “ is a nice problem to have ? Personally I liked the RE more than the DE but that was influenced by size , mine and the bike . I also thought it was priced well .
Nicely reviewed
Glad you enjoyed it👍
Excellent video.
Thank you Simon 👍
I think this review has really sold me. I was looking at 4/5 other alternatives for my first "big bike" to go touring on and this just have everything I could want (minus cruise control but oh well). Thank you for such a carefully considered review and the brilliant way you put it across. Subscribed!
Thank you Max . Glad you found it useful . Lots of good bikes out there but I do like the RE . Have fun 👍
There is an aftermarket cruise control from McCruise firm in Australia. It costs around 600 EUR, not far from what you would pay to have it from Suzuki. It snaps on the OBD and comes with DIY guidance. I guess more of those will come out soon.
Thanks mate well done honest review, not a press piece. 🎉 Wait, no cruise? 😢
I like your presentation & riding in the Cotswolds, I see soo many ADV style bikes that never go off road....this would be a great every day, do it all bike. Im tempted to buy one.
Speaking to the dealers , they think that most adventure bikes are not ridden off road . They are spacious and comfortable on the road . Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment 👍
@@michaelmam Looking forward to hear what the engine & exhaust note sound like. As a 180cm rider, would I get much wind buffering with a Arai X4 helmet ?
@@chrismillicent3287 if you can Chris , try one ? The screen , from memory is adjustable although not on the go and requires 3 hands 😂 I have seen some with small extenders on the top of the screen , if you can’t get the standard screen to work for you 👍
Very interesting. Thank you
Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment . Glad it was useful !
Thanks for another great review, Michael. I road the RE 3 weeks ago and I agree with your findings, though I would say the screen produces a very noisy airflow above 60mph. You and I are about the same height and leg length, but maybe clothing and helmet play their part. I am close to buying one…
I think it is very capable but felt I had to mention the wind noise at head height . My helmet and camera don’t help . Overall , a lot of bike for the money . 👍
Great review. My 2015 Vstrom 650 is definitely a UJM/A. A capable, practical all rounder. But no more so than something like the Beemer F700GS. Sometimes I think I should have gone for a KTM 1090 or a more lovable modern retro like the Z900RS. But my Vstrom just works in a no frills way.
Just cleaning my 650 as I type . Ride it a fair bit at this time of year . Easy , predictable and capable 👍
Great review Michael. I think this could be a future contender for my ‘one bike’, in part due to looks I don’t really care for. Having ‘pretty’ bikes sometimes comes with added stress when you leave them alone out on the street 😅.
@@degutube In my eyes one of the most beautiful bikes ever made was the Ducati 916 and it derivatives. The 800 RE is a lot more comfortable to actually ride … 😀
@@michaelmam yes the 916 is a real beauty. Comfort certainly has its place at times; looking good only gets you so far on a cold, winter’s morning commute!
@@degutube Real world motorcycling 😂
Agree with your assessment of Dunlop OE tyres. My Honda NC750x DCT was delivered with them and I couldn't wait to replace them with some excellent Metzeller equipment. Transformed the grip.
Yes .. changed the Dunlops fitted to my Suzuki GSX S 1000GT within 300 miles . Went with Michelin ..
Not rode this new Strom, but i have test rode the GSX-8S and its a great engine. But i'm not taken with the looks of this new Strom and wouldn't trade my Strom 650 for it. My 650 is super comfortable, with a well proven reliable and characterful v twin engine. It is also super comfortable, does everything i need a bike to do and gets between 64 and 70 mpg depending on how i ride it.
I like my 650 as well . Rarely manage to achieve your mpg but I do ride it pretty enthusiastically which is why I like the new engine , and gearbox so much . Happy with my 650 for now but personally , when I change it will probably be for something with a little more power . We are all different and I respect your take on it . Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment 👍
I like the naked bike better, but this looks good, too. I'm sure the engine must be really good. Excellent dash. Nick
I noticed you skirted neatly around German and European bikes in the 'value for money' section. Many years ago at work we did a test of how many hours you had to work to buy something, with the older guys saying what they used to earn and what they earned now, and what things used to cost and what they cost now... It seems most things were actually a lot more expensive years ago and not such good quality.
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment Chris .
I didn’t deliberately skirt round the German and European prices , just reflected briefly on my personal experience when I bought my new Z650 in the early 80’s . I remember considering bikes that included the Ducati Desmo and concluding I couldn’t afford it and that the Moto Morini 3.5, which I could afford was slower than the bike I already had . I also concluded that BMW stood for Beyond My Wealth …
I suspect your research was right ..👍
I am going to have to ride one of those Michael...!
Sadly , you will probably like it 😂
Really like the look of this. As your ride showed, UK roads are fun but not race tracks. This has plenty of go, enough to get you banned. I'd be happy to give this a try in place of my DL1000 Vstrom.
I really liked it too . Very versatile and capable in the real world . A strong contender when I eventually change my VStrom 650 XT 👍
Looks nice in the black dude have you been to Blake’s kitchen in Clanfield? A excellent coffee stop with food to match there cinnamon buns, they are to die for 👍🏼
😂 Yes .. their cinnamon buns are very popular .. If you look at last weeks video , the BMW XR , I start the go pro video in their car carpark 😂🍰
Ok didn’t see that dude I’ll have a look 👍🏻@@michaelmam
@@lomate1963 we edited out the wider pictures so could be any carpark but yes , I do know the cafe . Quite local to me 👍
Love my new Vstrom 800RE. Only gripe is that if I wish to add a bash plate, I also have to purchase an Accessory Bar Tube to mount the plate to. This adds an additional $350 US to the already expensive plate. Oh well, such is the nature of add on's I suppose.
In a way , a nice problem to have . Very capable bike . Have fun 👍
It looks a bit like a Suzuki bandit, from back in the day. The older i get, the fewer people i have to impress, so an adventure type bike may not be the most beautiful, but it certainly gets the work done.
On the valve of the bike, i see moto morini x cape available new for about £5800 i think, if memory serves me, and its one of the better looking adventurous type bikes.
Subscribed. Amazing garage . I have the Tiger 900. How does this bike compare ?
Thank you .👍 Sadly haven’t yet found a Triumph dealer happy to lend me bikes for long enough to do a fair review but will keep looking 👍
Awesome video, my next bike!
Have fun! Glad you enjoyed the video and thanks for commenting !
You own the 650, I would have appreciated far more time spent comparing the two as for me they are very similar in their on-off road bias compromise. Thanks for the review regardless 👍
It wasn’t really intended as a comparison .. as you rightly point out . I make more comparisons on the 800 DE video if you are interested ? The DE has genuine off capability whilst the RE and old 650 are , in my opinion, road bikes that you do a dirt track/light trail on . I have also made a video on the XT 650 .. hope they help .
@@michaelmam I own a gen 1 VStrom 650 so am very familiar with them and yes I have seen your 650 review. No I’m not interested in the DE, the RE is more me for this size and weight category. Dirt bikes should be far lighter in my opinion so I’m just not interested in the so called middle weight adventure category. Thanks 😊
Tyres are aweful!
Hello Michael,
I recently stumbled across you channel searching for videos on the new Suzuki V-Strom 800 RE. I hat the opportunity to try out the DE version last year and I really liked it. But when the RE version came out, I decided to order that version as I don't ride off-road. And the journalists at the test launch in France said that the RE has a comfy suspension as well.
As you have the direct comparison with the DE version, my question to you is: is the RE suspension-wise similarly comfortable as the DE? I'm thinking here especially of you "bumpy road test" :)
And I'd like to tell you, that I really like you channel (I've been watching a lot of you recent and past videos since I discovered this one). You look like a very sympathetic guy to me.
BTW: my bike is due to arrive till mid February. Keeping fingers crossed :)
Greetings from Hungary! :)
Hi , sounds like you are going to have some fun . I think you have probably chosen the right version for you . The RE (Road Explorer) doesn’t have the travel or suspension adjustability of the DE (Dual Explorer) but coped easily along the bumpy road . Great bike , really nice engine , fantastic gearbox . 👍
@@michaelmam sounds great, thank you! :)
I"ll share my thoughts as soon as I get the bike and have a chance to ride it properly.
@@76olahpeter Please do Paul . Always good to hear how people are getting on with their bikes . Good bits and not so good . No bike is perfect of course , and for me the trick is to buy the one as close as possible to the ideal bike, for you. 👍👍
Thanks for the nice review. Could you please compare the reach to the handlebar from the seat between this and the V-Strom 650. Is the bike roomier or is the handlebar closer to the rider? Thanks in advance.
Sadly the RE was returned to Kings Two Wheel Centre as soon as we finished filming . If you pop into a Suzuki dealer , I would be surprised if they didn’t have both models in the showroom for you to measure and try ? Sorry I can’t be more helpful .
i m between this bike and the new transalp.and i cant decide.i will test ride them both of course.also, i think black its the best for this bike.thaks for the great review sir
I'm in the same boat as you, if only Honda did the same as Suzuki, with cast 19 front or Suzuki did the same as Honda with tech such as blue tooth connectivity and user mode.
Looks wise, I think the Honda pips it
Torque or high rev power are the options there … both good bikes but very different to ride 👍
i have exactly the same thoughts@@flexywing
My other problem is my current bike is a NC750X DCT (21) Finding a bike that is that much better is hard, I do like the NC, but it doesn't have that "X" factor, though a really good bike and I love the "frunk, great idea. My wife has a 750 Hornet, great engine. Not ridden a Suzuki I have test ridden so many bikes looking for that Unicorn bike, (Tranalsp, Speed twin 1200, T120, & 1200 Scrambler KTM Duke and adventurer, Moto Guzzi 850tt and Triumph Tiger 660. Was hoping Honda would anounce a GB750/CL750, or are they just someones fantasy bike?@@thodoris3790
A year and a half ago I paid $10,500 for a brand new Moto Guzzi v85tt that was the previous year's model. Very happy with it 12,000 miles later and have been spoiled by the cruise control.
How much does it weigh?
About 229kg wet, so same as Suzuki V-Strom 800DE@@scottloftin1730
Greetings from the USA! State of Vermont specifically. Marvelous video sir 👍My last bike was an '01 SV650, and I haven't been on a bike since I sold it almost 12 years ago. I quite liked the rideability and character of the 650, but with the difference in MSRP being only $700 USD here ($9,199 vs $9,899), would you say the 800RE is a better buy than the 650RE? I've only sat on the 650, and while it initially felt a little wide at the hips, it felt like something I could get used to; I'm 5'9 and weight about 170lbs.
Firstly , thank you for watching and taking the time to comment . I am a passionate motorcyclist rather than an “expert” and my opinions are no more or less valid than anyone else’s. I own a 650 XT and really like it . Great bikes . If I was buying a replacement for it and went Suzuki , personally I would go for the 800 RE . The engine and gearbox are so well matched and the 10hp more , noticeable . Just a personal view though . Both are really good bikes 👍
A very enjoyable review once again with some very useful insights into the bike. Well done. 🫡
Thank you Taff ! Look after yourself 👍
Micheal, you said you were not happy with the I AM Dunlop tyres, what tyres would you choose to replace them with?
Tyre debates are endless Peter! So many options , personal preferences and opinions .
I don’t ride off road anymore so my choices are road focussed and because I ride these sort of bikes in all weathers , something good in the cold and wet ..
I have a few bikes with Michelin 5 or 6 on and I also like the roadtec 01. There is a new 02 out , which I hear good reports about , but haven’t tried yet 👍
Michelin 5 have some good deals out there now that the 6 is out
Mr. Mam, I had the V-Strom 650 and felt like it was top heavy. For example, it took a fair effort to keep it upright at an intersection. How do you feel about the 800 in that regard?
I have a 650 and initially thought the weight was quite high but have definitely got used to it . The RE 800 did not feel top heavy to me and easy to hold and balance . I do find the DE version a bit too tall for me .
Thank you. Overall the 800 seems like a big upgrade.
Ideally I'd buy a BMW 900GS(yellow/red subframe one),but it's too tall and expensive, so i was looking at this and evolving it over time. That seat needs to go, a Hessler/Trail de Couvert flat one...McCruise are working on the C/C(it'll fit all 4 models probably?). Accessories are starting to appear, decent sumpguards,crash bars, lighter racks,etc! I reckon i can get that under 200kg dry,quite easily, with what's already available, Hessler is running a fully sorted DE at 226kg with 14kg of fuel on board! Should dent Tracer7 sales!
Great approach . Make it what you want 👍
Is a center stand an option do you know? Thanks for the excellent review.
Glad you like it . Yes , centre stand is an option 👍
Anything like Honda (comes rusted),better with Hepco Becker or SW Motech!
In pratically EVERY bike this extra option now.
@@podunkman2709 I agree . Most now optional . You do get far more technology as standard now though . ABS , Traction control , quick shifter etc . Some don’t like or want it , but most do . 👍
Is there some reason there is a small piece of yellow tape bottom right on the TFT screen?
@@raymondwright2660 The dealer sometimes leaves the protective cover on the demonstrators so the ultimate owner has a perfect screen . The tab is where you peel it off 👍
Is the Suzuki V-Strom 800RE engine buzzy at 80 mph or 79 Km?
I don’t remember it as being particularly “buzzy” at that sort of speed . It is a parallel twin so has vibrations of course , but the 270 Crank and twin balancer shafts do help . 👍
@23:09 wait a minute, so on both the 650 and the 1050, TC 1 is the least intervention and TC 2 respectively 3 is the most. Are you saying that on the 800 it's the opposite ?
The Higher the number the mode , the more quickly traction control is engaged . Which is what I saying in this video as well ? . Power mode A and traction mode 3 are the most direct power and the most engaged traction hence “lighting up like a christmas tree “ and my personal preference for most direct power … A ..and low traction control .. 1
@@michaelmam hmm, so all this time I misunderstood how the TC indicator works. I thought that when the TC indicator blinks it means the wheel is slipping and THEN TC intervenes, so more blinking would mean more slipping thus when you were saying in the video that it blinks like a Christmas tree, for me it ment LESS intervention :) But reading carefully what you said and the manual I got it now. The TC blinks when the system intervenes to prevent slipping and thus loss of tractions so obviously, a higher TC level will lead to more blinking because the system intervenes more (not that the wheel is slipping more). At least I was using it correctly and not riding with an improper setting of the TC for the road conditions... that would have been bad. Tnx for making me understand properly how it works :)
@@ioandragulescu6063 Glad to have helped . All the best for 2024 🤞
Hello
I am French and juste more than seventy I really like this review
I just want to know the name of the city you were at the 17 minutes
It so beautiful
Have a good time a good health too
Thierry
Hello , the town I was riding through was Chipping Camden , in Gloucestershire , the heart of the Cotswolds . Glad you enjoyed the review .
Wondering if it is a big step up from the 650 V-Strom Michael? Speaking as someone who bought a 650 a few weeks before this bike was announced!
Hi Bryon , I have a 650 XT too . It is a good bike , very capable , very reliable and faster than many know . Enjoy it .
The new one has a bit more power , slightly better brakes and suspension , and a nice gearbox but in my experience , whatever bike you buy there is always one out there that is slightly better ….
Have Fun 👍
Cheers@@michaelmam Your high regard for your 650 was one of the reasons I purchased mine.
Suzuki v-strom 800re the best of 800cc!!!
Must get a test ride on one, to see what's it like compared to the Transalp
Your thoughts Michael?
I haven’t had long enough on a Transalp to make a considered comment . The obvious differences are the power and torque . The Honda is powerful and likes its revs . The Suzuki engine has more torque and feels less busy . Suzuki gearbox is very good …
I hope it will become available in Thailand
I prefer a V engine.
My 2014 1000 is a keeper. Previously I owned the DL650. I liked it as well.
I dont really see the point of a 800cc in the middle.
If my 1000 had a little more suspension travel it would do the job off road. Although I will say, with nobbies its still capable in the mud. One must simply slow down.
Kind suggestion: use USA Imperial measurements for your mostly American audience.
@@starseeddeluxe taken in the spirt it was delivered 👍 Tricky one though . America is currently 17 % of the audience 🤷🏼♂️
Did you have an opportunity to ride in the dark and if so your impressions of headlights?
No , sorry Steve . I didn’t . Oxfordshire currently has potholes that could swallow an RE . I don’t tend to risk dealer bikes . The forums would have owners that have ridden in the dark ? Hope this helps ..
@@michaelmam I have a 1st gen DL650 that I use as a winter commuter. The twin headlights are best I have had on a bike. It’s a 2011 bike and thinking about changing it for next winter so potentially interested in the 800re
@@stevebaker5254 I have a 650 Vstrom . Really like the bike . Much more capable than some perceive. The 800 and gearbox in particular , are a step again . 👍
Interesting as usual. This looks a very capable, usable bike. One criticism I can make is that the engine has too much gubbins on show, pipes, wires etc. It does not look as polished as a Triumph in my opinion. Do you know where these are made?
My perception is that the big / medium size bikes are built in Japan and most of the others assembled elsewhere . Haven’t asked where the new engined bikes are made , but I will 👍 Personally I think the engine finish looks ok and cleans up well .
Checked with the Suzuki dealer Andy . The 800’s are assembled in 🇯🇵
@@michaelmam That’s good Michael. One thing that disappointed me was Triumph manufacturing in Thailand. Did the Hinckley tour a few years ago, very good.
MAM I have the same XT650 and I love it, However I am thinking of upgrading to the new RE I would really like you comparison between the two.
Why would this bike be around 50 lbs heavier than the naked version? Is it because of the bigger fuel tank?
Tank, plastics, beefier rear subframe, the exhaust, rack
I have to agree with you on the looks. Call me "old school", but I don't like the beaks and the suit case sized exhausts on many bikes these days. Great point on how pricing has remained relative while tech has advanced. Cheers.
Beaks are Old School ,to anyone under 60yrs old...been on the go for over 35yrs,by Suzuki, the investors of the look!
Sadly not much to be done with the huge exhausts, they are ugly though.
@@paulcasey5204Yamaha has found a way to tuck most of the plumbing underneath with only a tiny bit visible.
@@SWTrailsAndWheelsGood idea to have all that pipe in such a bashable place
Beaks are an 80s thing afaik.
DR Big came out more than 30 years ago
😊👍🙏
There Michael goes busting misconceptions! lol
Mostly my own 😂
@@michaelmam that’s the most important one. Who cares what the experts think! 🤷♂️😂
@@leightodd7335 I am certainly no expert . Just call it as I see it . Hope you and the family are well . 👍
@@michaelmam Yes you are a expert so I'm wrong again because I do care what you think. Now you and I are also old men and old men's favorite thing to do is complain about the young, the government, prices, and our relatives. Dang it now I can't complain about the price of bikes and how well made they use to be! Please don't get to know any of my relatives! What the hell would I do for the rest of my life???? lol
@@leightodd7335 😂
The down pipes? Stainless??
I think so but will need to double check . Certainly “bronzed” up like Stainless ..
I was taken by your observation that these “off road” bikes are better risen than looked at. The test run was feisty and gave an astonishing sense of versatility. I am completely inexperienced with gizmos but they seemed worthy. Fret not sir! The machine was immaculate 😂👍👏👌
Looks are very subjective . Just my view … specifications and technology are factual . Well equipped and easy to use . Cruise is useful for genuine “touring “ but not the end of the world 🤔 Glad you liked the review and thank you for commenting 👍
Just bought this model, but in blue. Waiting to be delivered. Step down from VFR1200X
Have fun . Different power levels as you already know but the RE is a very capable middleweight . Easy and comfortable .
Is it a step down I don't think so.
You are lucky! I haven’t been able to find a blue one in the USA! Only the green color is available! Enjoy! 🎉👍
I find this bike quite compelling, but feel not having cruise control on an adventure touring bike a big miss. I want to understand why Suzuki wouldn't include it as I believe that most potential buyers would value it.
A lot of the middleweights don’t have cruise as standard but I was surprised it isn’t an option for those that want it . As you say in your other comment , once you had had it , and used it , it is hard to go back . Not the end of the world but not perfect 🤷🏼♂️.
Saving it for a refresh to keep sales ticking over....
so,it cost about 30% of a year avarage salarys in uk... sad for us in greece.couse i would say it cost at least 80% of the years avarage salaries in greece,if you think the avarage salary in greece is about 1000 euros and this cost 11k.at least we have sunshine 300 days.but driving with 10,20 and maybe 30 year old bikes.
Yes , of course . Very different across the world . As you say , at least you have sunshine 👍
Has helmet hooks?
Sorry , can’t remember 🤷🏼♂️ Hopefully someone watching will know 🤞
Probably not they don't seem to be on any new bikes
Dunlop makes a tier lower tire generally, they are typically a notch below Michelin, Bridgestone and Pirelli as an example. Almost universally when reviewers comment on a tire being bad, it's a Dunlop
Certainly the OE fitted tyres are not universally popular . I have no doubt Dunlop can make excellent tyres . The ones I use on the Yamaha experience bikes , on track , are far better than I am , but it is shame that so many of the OE tyres are certainly not my sort of tyre .
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment . 👍
@@michaelmam thanks for your videos! 😊
@@BernardVisagie You are very welcome 👍
Cold and wet? Don't do cold and wet.
😂
Cracked weld on the swing arm or am I seeing things opps.
A trick of the light but I know why you commented . I checked it after filming as I thought the same .. 👍
i could buy this bike,it has almost everything i need,BUT,i cant stand the looks.i cant pay so much money and cant stand staring it in my garage.so,no from me.
Each to their own 👍
Well, I have a KTM and When I ride it I can't see the headline. So give it a shot you might like it.
Not even a word about engine vibration and heat emission?
These are the bigest cons of 800DE (RE has same engine).
It is a great engine . V Twins , which I like , are far harder to keep cool with the cylinder at the back . Engine vibration significantly reduced by twin balancer shafts . Have you actually ridden one?
A classic suzuki 850 V TWIN with Analog clocks NO plastics and proper mudguards would have drove a steak through the heart of Royal Enfield.
These Plastic Lego bikes today are extremely UGLY and lack character 😑
Personally I am not convinced RE and Suzuki are playing in the same space but respect your opinion . I know a few who have both brands , including me, but I think they are quite distinct brand characters . I actually think the new 450 Himalayan might ruffle a few of the smaller middleweights but will wait to ride one before coming to any conclusions .
For me , appearance , the subjective beautiful or ugly, is separate from character . I don’t like the “modular” lines of adventure styled bikes generally but they are a lot more fun to ride than to look at . 👍 We are all different , and that is fine . Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment.
@@michaelmamDefinitely not...I went to the NEC just to see this bike...you couldn't give me a Royal Enfield, absolutely zero interest, only went on their stand for the free pastries :)
@@williamrae9954 😂
I think is a very good bike , but omg it is so ugly!
😂 beauty is in the eye of the beholder ..
To me.. this bike makes NO sense at all.. suzuki has hopped on the Fad Wagon with parrallel twins & their "P Strom".. the V Twin 1000/1050 & 650 are a much better engine.. with a tiny bit of effort they could have easily got the Vs down to a 200kg mark.. same can be said for Yamaha not reviving the tdm900.. THAT bike could be trimmed to an amasing 170kg.. that.. would be a big seller then.. 🙏🇳🇿🇳🇿nz
Personally I think , certainly in the showrooms here in the UK , the big VStrom was running out of steam . The 650 is a good bike , I have an XT , but they needed a bit more power to stay competitive and clearly decided to go again with a new twin . I like both engines .
I was a bit surprised that they didn’t go for more power at launch but we will see how it evolves .. and how the sales go .
Parallel twins are where the fun is, real world power, I would have liked the torque a little lower in the rev range.
@@OperationFoxley19441 Horse power is great down the straight , Torque is what we use on the road and bends...👍👍
Just another modern boring parallel twin, characterless and predictable. I'd take a V twin any day, like the 1050.
How far did you ride it ?
@@michaelmam I haven't seen one in the flesh let alone ride one, and nor will I. This is the usual great review but these don't interest me in the slightest for the aforementioned reasons. The only twin I've ever owned with the dozens of bikes I've had over the decades was a Yamaha RD400 back in the 80's, which in contrast to it's modern four stroke twin brethren had character, zest and charisma in spades. IMO anyway. And the only twin I ever sort of hankered after was a Yamaha TX750, but they were rare here in NZ. As mentioned I'd buy a V Twin any day, except for a Ducati but the latest parallel twins, yawn.
@@spynles7947oh , I see . Not normally a fan of parallel twins either . I have had quite a few V Twins , mostly Ducati but including Honda and Suzuki . I liked them .
I have been impressed with these 776cc parallel twins . More so than others that I have ridden . Each to their own though . The reason they make so many different bikes , is that we are all different ..👍
@@spynles7947Ride one before battering the keyboard, so many v-twins are flat in comparison...night and day between a V-Strom 650 and a CP2 motor...I had both at the same time!
@@williamrae9954 Pass. And I wouldn't buy a 650, a1050 for sure or any other larger displacement Japanese V twin. Parallel twins, even in CP2 guise just not for me. In saying that Honda's new XL750 looks interesting though, 90 odd HP and light-ish...
Just too ugly, couldn't have that in my garage
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