Drizzy Kendricks, you’re comical, you failed to mention Kobe missed 3 full seasons with serious injuries and still scored over 33,000 points. kobe and Shaq led the lakers to those 3 titles. Kobe proved he could win without Shaq and added 2 more titles to his illustrious career. I guess Jordan won all those titles all by himself? I guess it was ok when Michael Jordan led the league taking shots and missing shots. I believe MJ is 4th in missing the most shot in the history of the NBA. If you’re just going by stats then you know Kobe has more points and assists then MJ. Stats only tell part of the story. Kobe’s 81 point game was the single greatest game in NBA history and yes I know Wilt had 100 points. Kobe could do everything Jordan could do and if I’m lying please show where Kobe couldn’t do what Jordan could do on the court. The media hated Kobe or he would have 5 league MVPs too.
@@Mike1122. Most missed shots in nba history 1. Kobe Bryant 14,481 2. John Havlicek 13,417 3. Elvin Hayes 13,296 Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg worst of any player thats scored over 30,000 points 💀 Kobe Bryant 6 times led nba in missed shots Kobe Bryant 2 times led nba in scoring Kobe Bryant led nba in missed shots more then he led nba in scoring Scoring titles Kobe 2 > LeBron 1 Seasons leading nba in shot attempts Kobe 6 > LeBron 0 Kobe only 1 more scoring title despite the fact he led nba in shot attempts 6 times more than LeBron 0 LeBron James averages more points, rebounds, assists, steals, blocks and a higher fg%, 3pt% then Kobe Bryant. Its pretty clear LeBron the better player In fewer shot attempts LeBron is going to pass Kobe Bryant for 3rd on all time scoring list 😂 LeBron James going to have more career points, rebounds, assists, steals, blocks higher fg%, 3pt% higher offensive and defensive rating more double doubles, triple doubles, all nba first teams, league mvps, finals mvps more playoff game winning buzzer beaters, better postseasons and nba finals performaces than Kobe Kobe Bryant never shot above 46.9% fg in 20 seasons Seasons shooting +50% fg LeBron 8 Jordan 6 Kobe 0 Kobe Bryant 1 mvp in 20 seasons lol Kobe Bryant 2 finals mvps out of 5 titles Shaq O'Neal 3 finals mvps best player on Lakers 3peat and Kobe Bryant sidekick First Ring Kobe 15.6 ppg and 36.7% fg and 20% 3pt Carried by Shaq 38 ppg and 61% fg and 16 rpg Finals Mvps at 3 rings Jordan 3 LeBron 3 Duncan 3 Shaq 3 Kobe 0 😂 Bill Russell 11 rings Sam Jones 10 rings Tom Heinsohn 8 rings KC Jones 8 rings Tom Sanders 8 rings 😂😂 John Havlicek 8 rings Horry 7 rings Pippen 6 rings Based on Kobetard logic 8 beats 5 All those players have more rings than Kobe So if we going in ring order Kobe isnt top 5 😂 Rings = Team Award Finals Record = Team Record League Mvps = Individual player Finals Mvps = Individual player All nba team = Individual player Stats = Individual player Kobetards try to use team awards rings to prop Kobe Bryant to a status hes not at which hes not top 5 😂 Jordan, LeBron, Kareem, Wilt, Magic, Bird, Shaq, Duncan all better players than Kobe
Drizzy Kendricks, so you conveniently left off Michael Jordan whose number 4 on the missed shots list. You failed to mention Lebron played in the weaker conference his entire career and Kobe played in the strongest conference! Maybe you can tell the truth just once, Kobe shot 44 percent for his career and Jordan 49 percent for his career and 1 shot difference. Shaq dominated the first playoff run after which Kobe equally carried the lakers in 2001 and 2002 on their way to a 3 peat. Kobe dominated the west in the playoffs to help Shaq to those 3 MVP finals awards. Le bron has to go team up with Wade and Bosh just to get a ring. Let’s not forget if it weren’t for Scottie Pippen and kyrie irving Jordan and Lebron wouldn’t have 6 and 3 rings. Kobe led the lakers to back to back titles the years Lebron had the best team record wise in the NBA. Orlando led by Howard put him out the playoff and an aging Boston Celtic team. Kobe is the Real GOAT he did it with Shaq unlike Jordan with Pippen or Lebron with Wade, Bosh and Irving. As for league MVP awards, Kobe should have 5 the media hated him. No, Nash Nowitki, Duncan, and Lebron didn’t deserve MVP over Kobe the years he lost. Your hate for Kobe it too evident.
Martin Smith I meant 6 th in all time misses, Dumbass. Either way you slices it up Jordan missed the 6th most shots in NBA history out of thousands of players, he wasn’t perfect either.
1.Jordan 2.Kareem 3.LeBron 4.Chamberlain 5.Magic 6.Bird 7.Hakeem 8. Shaq 9.Duncan 10.Kobe Career Points Kareem 38,387✔ (Most Ever) Kobe 33,643 Field Goal% Kareem 55%✔ Kobe 44.7% Rings Kareem 6✔ Kobe 5 League Mvps Kareem 6✔ (Most Ever) Kobe 1 Finals Mvps Kareem 2 Kobe 2 All Star Games Kareem 19✔ (Most Ever) Kobe 18 Kareem all time leading scorer Kobe 14,481 all time missed shots leader Kareem better than Kobe 😂 Jordan and Kareem top 2 😂 Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg most missed shots in nba history isnt even in top 9 all time players I have Kobe 10th all time You on heavy drugs if you think Kobe above Kareem 😂😂😂
Kobe 7 finals appearance in a 10 year stretch going 5-2, out of a strong western conference, is just as impressive as Bron's 8 straight finals appearance
Kobe had harder conference matches than lebron ever had. If you ask me Kobe’s journey to each title was more impressive than any of lebrons. 2016 was lebrons best win whereas every time Kobe went he had to deal with Phoenix San Antonio Denver Houston
10 year span 2000-2010 Just to know Kobe 10 years 32.2 ppg 49%shooting 5.7 rebounds 6.1 assist 2.2 steals 1.3 blocks 10 all star games- 4 MVP 10 first all team 8 first defensive all team 2-2nd team defensive 5-7 championships-71% rate 2002 went 15-1 playoffs And played with a broken wrist and finger in 2 consecutive finals 2008-2009 2 finals mvps 1 regular season MVP 2 scoring titles 1 western conference finals 2006-2007lost to suns firstround arguably worst line up in NBA history Had 5 months where he scored 40 or more points per game Had 4-60 point games Had 24-50 point games Had 104-40 point games Scored 81 points-65% shooting Out scored mavericks 62-61 in three quarters by himself Has scored 40 or more points on every NBA team twice Had 12 threes one game tied 2nd to curry as of last year 2006 -3rd best offensive year not including wilt chamberlain ever Think of this kobe played 20 seasons and won 5 chips that’s a 25% win rate. That’s actually ridiculous don’t count his first 3 seasons and last 5 that’s from 2000-2010 he literally won half the finals and went to 7 in 10 years that’s a 70% finals appearance percentage. That’s just incredible
Marilyn Blaine because the media has always hated Kobe...Kobe came between the two guys the media have wanked off too more than anyone else...MJ and LeBron. At his best he was as good as anyone. Kobe should have cared about tricking the media more like LeBron has and he would be in all the top 5 lists ahead of LeBron. When Kobe was chasing MJ these guys would say “you can’t even have the discussion until he wins 6 rings”. Them LeBron comes along and its “3 or 6 whats the big difference”? I have watched them change the rules to elevate LBJ his entire career.
@@adam-thesportsguy6147 um FYI people posting comments on CZcams are not the media and 95% of comments say lebron > Kobe. so you can complain about the media not liking Kobe but NBA fans have lebron over kobe.
@@imsljr420 what about players who've played against kobe and lebron, not nba analyst who've never played basketball, but players that have battled against both, they always take kobe, think about it hater
@@lastofadyingbreed7489 ok first of all Carlos boozer and baron Davis have played against both and they both pick lebron over Kobe and 2nd why does it matter that some pick Kobe over lebron? does that mean Kobe is better than lebron? Kobe picked lebron over Jordan and has said a few times he would've loved to play with lebron. so does that mean lebron is better than Jordan? tmac also picked lebron over Jordan.
2010 NBA Finals Game 7 Lakers 83 Celtics 79 Kobe Bryant 6-24 fg and 0-6 3pt for 23 points 2013 NBA Finals Game 7 Heat 95 Spurs 88 LeBron James 12-23 fg and 5-10 3pt for 37 points Game winning playoff buzzer beaters LeBron 5 > Kobe 1 Kobe vs LeBron PPG: LeBron RPG: LeBron APG: LeBron SPG: LeBron BPG: LeBron FG%: LeBron 3PT%: LeBron FT%: Kobe TS%: LeBron WS: LeBron PER: LeBron MVP's: LeBron FMVP's: LeBron Rings: Kobe (Best player on 2) LeBron better player then Kobe Seasons avg +25 ppg LeBron 14 > Kobe 12 Seasons avg +25 ppg on +50% fg LeBron 8 > Kobe 0 Seasons shooting +40% 3pt LeBron 1 > Kobe 0 Triple Doubles LeBron 74 > Kobe 21 Career +30 point games scoring LeBron 436 > Kobe 431 Career highs scoring Kobe Bryant 28-46 fg and 7-13 3pt for 81 points vs Raptors 27-55 record LeBron James 22-33 fg and 8-10 3pt for 61 points vs Bobcats 43-39 record Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg most missed shots in nba history isn't top 8 all time player NBA top ten all time players 1. Michael Jordan 2. LeBron James 3. Kareem Abdul-Jabber 4. Wilt Chamberlain 5. Magic Johnson 6. Larry Bird 7. Shaquille O'Neal 8. Tim Duncan 9. Kobe Bryant 10. Hakeem Olajuwon 2008 season January 27 Cavs 98 Lakers 95 LeBron 41 points Outplayed Kobe 33 points LeBron James hit shot in Kobe Bryant face to ice game 2010 Season December 25 Heat 96 Lakers 80 LeBron 8-14 fg and 5-6 3pt for 27 points an triple double Outplayed Kobe 6-16 fg and 1-3 3pt for 17 points 2013 January 17 LeBron 17-25 fg for 39 points Outplayed Kobe 8-25 fg for 22 points In this game LeBron 25 shots 17 makes Kobe 25 shots 17 missed Stats in career meetings LeBron 28 ppg and 47% fg Kobe 24 ppg and 42% If Kobe Bryant could stop LeBron James he would have guarded him whole game LeBron James 16-6 owns Kobe Bryant ass in 22 career meetings LeBron James outplayed Kobe Bryant in they meetings Where was Kobe Bryant defense at he could not stop LeBron James from killing Lakers
Kerry Jones so you conveniently failed to mention the 2011 finals where Lebron was thoroughly outplayed by Jason terry? Or you failed to mention Lebron is 3-6 in nba finals also being swept. You failed to mention Lebron did most of his scoring on layups and dunks. You failed to mention Lebron played in a weaker conference his entire career until now. You failed to mention the years Kobe went to the finals 2009 and 2010 Lebron who was the league MVP and teams were the number 1 seeds lost to Orlando and Boston. Kobe played in the toughest conference and helped lead the lakers to the finals 7 times winning 5. Kobe would have averaged 40 ppg for a season if he got to play eastern teams 4 times a season. Must I continue?
I like how shaq is being so honest at the same time being humble and respectful to other legends with him, before him and legends in the making after him.... Those are words from a true legend.
No Kobe isnt in goat convo because he isnt even best player at his own position Goat 🐐Jordan best SG ever easily As long as Micheal Jordan exist Kobe will always be in his shadow Kobe isnt even best player in his own franchise. Both Kareem and Magic better players than Kobe If a name should be brought up in goat convo its Kareem Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg most missed shots in nba history and 3x sidekick isnt top 9 all time player Jordan, Kareem, LeBron, Chamberlain, Magic, Bird, Hakeem, Shaq, Duncan all better players than Kobe
Shaq is so awesome to remind everyone and the media that Kobe should never be out of the conversation of GOAT. Way to have Jellybean's back there the Most Dominant.
Kobe lost 2 times in the Finals. He shot below 40% in the 2004 Finals. He led his team to a 39 point lost in Game 6 of the 2008 Finals. Kobe has 1 MVP in 20 seasons. In the seasons after Shaq, the Kobe-led Lakers lost in the 1st Round or missed the Playoffs completely 7 times. Finally, the historically great Lakers had their worst losing seasons with Kobe on the team. He’s Top 10, but not the GOAT.
No Kobe isnt in goat convo because he isnt even best player at his own position Goat 🐐Jordan best SG ever easily As long as Micheal Jordan exist Kobe will always be in his shadow Kobe isnt even best player in his own franchise. Both Kareem and Magic better players than Kobe If a name should be brought up in goat convo its Kareem Kobe wasnt even best player on Lakers 3peat in 2000, 2001, 2002 Shaq 3 finals mvps was First Ring Kobe 15.6 ppg and 36.7% fg and 20% 3pt Carried by Shaq 38 ppg and 61% fg and 16 rpg Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg most missed shots in nba history and 3x sidekick isnt top 9 all time player Jordan, Kareem, LeBron, Chamberlain, Magic, Bird, Hakeem, Shaq, Duncan all better players than Kobe
Kobe is 100% in the conversation from 03 to about 2010 best player on the planet top 3 scorer of all time some of the craziest scoring performance of all time multiple rings and finals MVP
Kobe lost 2 times in the Finals. He shot below 40% in the 2004 Finals. He led his team to a 39 point lost in Game 6 of the 2008 Finals. Kobe has 1 MVP in 20 seasons. In the seasons after Shaq, the Kobe-led Lakers lost in the 1st Round or missed the Playoffs completely 7 times. Finally, the historically great Lakers had their worst losing seasons with Kobe on the team. He’s Top 10, but not the GOAT.
▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫ Jordan 6 Finals Mvps best player on all 6 Rings in 15 Seasons ▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫ Kobe 2 Finals Mvps best player only on 2 rings in 20 Seasons ▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫ 🐐 Jordan 6 Rings without ever needing a top 10 all time player like Prime Superstar Shaq O'Neal ▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫ First Ring Kobe 15.6 ppg and 36.7% fg Carried by Shaq 38 ppg and 61% fg ▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫ First Ring Jordan 31.2 ppg and 11.4 apg and 6.6 rpg and 55.8% fg ▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫ Phil Jackson even says in his Book that Jordan better player then Kobe ▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫ Phil Jackson coach both players ▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫ Goat 🐐 Jordan >> Copycat Kobe ▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫ Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg most missed shots in nba histoty isnt even top 9 all time player 😂😂 ▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫ Jordan, LeBron, Chamberlain, Magic, Bird, Russell, Shaq, Duncan all better players than Kobe
Robert Owens 2010 NBA Finals Game 7 Lakers 83 Celtics 79 Kobe Bryant 6-24 fg and 0-6 3pt for 23 points 2013 NBA Finals Game 7 Heat 95 Spurs 88 LeBron James 12-23 fg and 5-10 3pt for 37 points Game winning playoff buzzer beaters LeBron 5 > Kobe 1 Kobe vs LeBron PPG: LeBron RPG: LeBron APG: LeBron SPG: LeBron BPG: LeBron FG%: LeBron 3PT%: LeBron FT%: Kobe TS%: LeBron WS: LeBron PER: LeBron MVP's: LeBron FMVP's: LeBron Rings: Kobe (Best player on 2) LeBron better player then Kobe Seasons avg +25 ppg LeBron 14 > Kobe 12 Seasons avg +25 ppg on +50% fg LeBron 8 > Kobe 0 Seasons shooting +40% 3pt LeBron 1 > Kobe 0 Triple Doubles LeBron 74 > Kobe 21 Career +30 point games scoring LeBron 436 > Kobe 431 Career highs scoring Kobe Bryant 28-46 fg and 7-13 3pt for 81 points vs Raptors 27-55 record LeBron James 22-33 fg and 8-10 3pt for 61 points vs Bobcats 43-39 record Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg most missed shots in nba history isn't top 8 all time player NBA top ten all time players 1. Michael Jordan 2. LeBron James 3. Kareem Abdul-Jabber 4. Wilt Chamberlain 5. Magic Johnson 6. Larry Bird 7. Shaquille O'Neal 8. Tim Duncan 9. Kobe Bryant 10. Hakeem Olajuwon
TheBestFighter 2010 NBA Finals Game 7 Lakers 83 Celtics 79 Kobe Bryant 6-24 fg and 0-6 3pt for 23 points 2013 NBA Finals Game 7 Heat 95 Spurs 88 LeBron James 12-23 fg and 5-10 3pt for 37 points Game winning playoff buzzer beaters LeBron 5 > Kobe 1 Kobe vs LeBron PPG: LeBron RPG: LeBron APG: LeBron SPG: LeBron BPG: LeBron FG%: LeBron 3PT%: LeBron FT%: Kobe TS%: LeBron WS: LeBron PER: LeBron MVP's: LeBron FMVP's: LeBron Rings: Kobe (Best player on 2) LeBron better player then Kobe Seasons avg +25 ppg LeBron 14 > Kobe 12 Seasons avg +25 ppg on +50% fg LeBron 8 > Kobe 0 Seasons shooting +40% 3pt LeBron 1 > Kobe 0 Triple Doubles LeBron 74 > Kobe 21 Career +30 point games scoring LeBron 436 > Kobe 431 Career highs scoring Kobe Bryant 28-46 fg and 7-13 3pt for 81 points vs Raptors 27-55 record LeBron James 22-33 fg and 8-10 3pt for 61 points vs Bobcats 43-39 record Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg most missed shots in nba history isn't top 8 all time player NBA top ten all time players 1. Michael Jordan 2. LeBron James 3. Kareem Abdul-Jabber 4. Wilt Chamberlain 5. Magic Johnson 6. Larry Bird 7. Shaquille O'Neal 8. Tim Duncan 9. Kobe Bryant 10. Hakeem Olajuwon
The same way, Kobe fans act like he's better than MJ. THAT is mad disrespectful. Beside, I don't know why people compare Kobe and LeBron in the first place. They don't even play alike.
@@Roxburysfinest Kobe could shoot 50 percent from the field, average the most points per game in NBA history, win 6 titles, win DPOY the same year he won MVP, get MVP 5 times, FMVP 6 times and 10 scoring titles? Then why didn't he?
@@quirinogarza7381 The funny thing is Kobe is a score first player and Lebron is not. Scoring is what Kobe is best at. But Lebron STILL averaged more points in the regular season and playoffs. Kobe could get as hot as anyone, but when he was off his game, he was really off his game and would still keep shooting lol. Don't be an idiot. I know Kobe fans hate Lebron, but Lebron is clearly the better player. Jordan is way better then both
@@ben1ben2ben1 Kobe wasn't a pass first person either, but still managed to be the first in NBA history to 30K points and 6,000 assists... And had scoring days LeBron can only dream of
@@quirinogarza7381 He also averaged less points in both the playoffs and the regular season. Kobe had amazing regular season scoring days (mixed in with some really off ones) but Lebron has more 30 point games, 40 point games and 50 point games in the playoffs where it matters most. Lebron also reached 20k and 30k points and 6000k assists faster then Kobe. What people forget is almost all of Kobe's big scoring games happened in the regular season. Same with all his clutch plays. Lebron has FAR more big performances in the playoffs when it actually matters And Jordan was way better then both
@@lenoe234 Kobe is taking shots Lebron could only dream of hitting. Kobe played the game to win not be efficient. Thats the problem with Lebron hes too passive and not enough of a killer.
Any fool can see Kobe is way better then lebron especially when it comes to winning with less talent when Kobe won back to back he had no other superstar plus he played with a bum knee and a broken finger on his shooting hand 🤷🏿♂️
@@SuperReviews4you you win the game by being efficient not by putting up bricks like kobrick. although it does work for him because he always had big men like shaq or gasol and Bynum to rebound his bricks and put them back in.
Because Shaq himself knew that Kobe was the better half of his 3FMVPs. That dude averaged 33 7 7 while shooting 50% on the 2001 WCF and averaged 30ppg over the whole playoffs and still called “carried”. Ofc nobody can guard Shaq on the east, who they got? Keith Van Horn, the Old guy Mutumbo, and Rik Smits? Hence he got all the awards which were very technical.
@@tmac731 Media and Bronexuals who most of them never watched Kobe on the other hand... I feel like the new NBA fan base are all brainwashed as they only care about stats and what media tells them
What?? Kobe's great and all..but kobe was the better in half of the 3fmvp?????????clearly u didn't watch any of those series,and if u did,u would have known lakers lost in 2004 bcz of kobe
Basically Kobe Bryant is in a category of his own, and it should be like this what did Kobe do and bring to the game that mj didn't, mj said it himself no one can really mess with Kobe one on one.....and in this time and age no one other than Kobe is the closest thing to mj.....James is a really good player.
I agree with you 100% on that. I was a big Michael Jordan fan and when he retired I kind of stopped watching the NBA because I adored his moves so much and I emulated them myself but after someone told me you need to check out Kobe he's just like Mike!! I started watching Kobe and it was almost like I was watching Michael all over again he has all of his moves. That mental Competitive Edge that he has is relentless!!
For me the reason why lebron is doing so well cause he doesn't have competition. During kobe and Mj their era was thick. You could smell the competition in the air
Kobe not in goat convo even a little bit Kobe not even best player ever at his own position Goat 🐐Jordan best SG ever As long as Micheal Jordan exist yo hero Kobe Bryant will always be in his shadow I dont even have to bring LeBron up 😂 Kobe not even best player ever in his own franchise Kareem and Magic better than Kobe Why does Kareem name get skipped over and Kobe name brought up 😂😂 Kareem best player ever at his position Center Kareem more nba titles, league mvps, points, fgs, rebounds then Kobe 😂😂 Kobe wasnt even best player on his first 3 titles Shaquille O'Neal 3 finals mvps best player on Lakers 3peat and Kobe Bryant side First ring Kobe 15.6 ppg and 36.7% fg and 20% 3pt Carried by Shaq 38 ppg and 61% fg and 16 rpg I will take Duncan over Kobe Finals mvps Duncan 3✔ Kobe 2 League mvps Duncan 2✔ Kobe 1 FG% Duncan 50.6%✔ Kobe 44.7% Kobe 6 times led nba in missed shots Kobe 2 times led nba in scoring Kobe led nba in missed shots more than he led nba in scoring 😭😭 Kobe most overrated player Duncan most underrated
How is a man from 15yrs old was considered to b the next greatest and literally grew into that and held that crown since like on the slim chance KD is now beta or james not pass Jordan he still than held the league during a kobe 24 era and after into these new guys tryna make they own era Lebron name always been at the top Kobe does get disrespected but Lebron is no where near overrated yall just bandwagon haters
Overrated with 3 rings..3 finals mvp(2 more than kobe)....4 season MVP(3 more than kobe)..will end up with more total points more assists and more rebounds and blocks than kobe..more playoff wins..more points in the playoffs than kobe..more steals...more 3s made..more EVERYTHING BUT u saying lebron is overall? Haters and idiots will never see greatness u idiots r to blind to see....lmaoooo if u dont get it read my comment 5 times maybe u finally will get why lebron better than kobe....ohhhh by the way lebron is like 16-6 when facing kove head to head....what else u want?...maybe u need a brain surgery to get it..geeeezzzzz people r soooo freakin dumb
Anytime somebody asks why isn’t Kobe‘s name mentioned LOL please look at the media personality faces because they have no idea what to say. It’s literally because you can see the bias on their face or the fact that they’re paid to literally shove LeBron down everyone’s throat. I love LeBron James he’s one of my favorite players right now and one of the greatest but it’s really disrespectful to let him just eclipse Kobe like oh he didn’t do anything. Lebron is not even done yet. It would be more fair to have a discussion like this once he’s done. And now that he’s in the Western Conference I would really love to see if he can cakewalk his way to the finals this time.
@@dl6kid 2010 NBA Finals Game 7 Lakers 83 Celtics 79 Kobe Bryant 6-24 fg and 0-6 3pt for 23 points 2013 NBA Finals Game 7 Heat 95 Spurs 88 LeBron James 12-23 fg and 5-10 3pt for 37 points Game winning playoff buzzer beaters LeBron 5 > Kobe 1 Kobe vs LeBron PPG: LeBron RPG: LeBron APG: LeBron SPG: LeBron BPG: LeBron FG%: LeBron 3PT%: LeBron FT%: Kobe TS%: LeBron WS: LeBron PER: LeBron MVP's: LeBron FMVP's: LeBron Rings: Kobe (Best player on 2) LeBron better player then Kobe Seasons avg +25 ppg LeBron 14 > Kobe 12 Seasons avg +25 ppg on +50% fg LeBron 8 > Kobe 0 Seasons shooting +40% 3pt LeBron 1 > Kobe 0 Triple Doubles LeBron 74 > Kobe 21 Career +30 point games scoring LeBron 436 > Kobe 431 Career highs scoring Kobe Bryant 28-46 fg and 7-13 3pt for 81 points vs Raptors 27-55 record LeBron James 22-33 fg and 8-10 3pt for 61 points vs Bobcats 43-39 record Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg most missed shots in nba history isn't top 8 all time player NBA top ten all time players 1. Michael Jordan 2. LeBron James 3. Kareem Abdul-Jabber 4. Wilt Chamberlain 5. Magic Johnson 6. Larry Bird 7. Shaquille O'Neal 8. Tim Duncan 9. Kobe Bryant 10. Hakeem Olajuwon 2008 season January 27 Cavs 98 Lakers 95 LeBron 41 points Outplayed Kobe 33 points LeBron James hit shot in Kobe Bryant face to ice game 2010 Season December 25 Heat 96 Lakers 80 LeBron 8-14 fg and 5-6 3pt for 27 points an triple double Outplayed Kobe 6-16 fg and 1-3 3pt for 17 points 2013 January 17 LeBron 17-25 fg for 39 points Outplayed Kobe 8-25 fg for 22 points In this game LeBron 25 shots 17 makes Kobe 25 shots 17 missed Stats in career meetings LeBron 28 ppg and 47% fg Kobe 24 ppg and 42% If Kobe Bryant could stop LeBron James he would have guarded him whole game LeBron James 16-6 owns Kobe Bryant ass in 22 career meetings LeBron James outplayed Kobe Bryant in they meetings Where was Kobe Bryant defense at he could not stop LeBron James from killing Lakers
@@eurickhidalgo9423 Lebron doesn’t play defense anymore to conserve for offense is the biggest BS I have ever heard think about it he is your goat that is honestly the most idiotic thing Kobe literally tore his Achilles carrying the trash lakers and he played defense till he retired cmon man you know that’s bullcrap how old are you anyway 12?
Kobe never cheated the game. Only wanted to win , meanwhile lebron is purposely trying to pad stats and flops. He’s out against a competitive team the warriors today due to “load management “
@@lightingwarr02 lol if it wasn't for any 2nd guy of a championship that team wouldn't win. if it wasn't for pippen, if it wasn't for gasol, wade, Irving, drexler, etc their teams wouldn't win. so ofcourse Kobe helped but he was still the sidekick.
Ima just say this jordan has two three peats Kobe has one three peat and a back to back with an roster of him being the only superstar 09/10 lakers lebron has a back to back with Dwayne wade,Chris Bosh, Ray Allen a heat team where he was teaming with another superstar 🤷🏿♂️
In the 2014 finals LBJ averaged 28 and the second best scorer on his team (Wade) averaged about 13 or 14 points. Kobe's supporting cast never failed him that much. Especially rebounding.
Maaziah Powell y’all lebron fans love telling half the truth smh what did wade average in 2011?? Lebron didn’t even average 20 points that finals wait I forgot y’all like to try to erase history smh what about 2012 finals what did wade average?? Y’all lebron fans love to paint this narrative like lebron just did it all by himself every year which is false if you gonna tell the truth tell all of it not half 🤦🏿♂️ In 2009/2010 nba finals nobody on that lakers team averaged over 19 points but Kobe he won back to back championships with way less help then lebron and he didn’t have no superstars or a hall of fame three point shooter but lebron did 🤷🏿♂️ Ps 2010 finals Kobe was injured had a bad knee and a broken finger on his shooting hand and still led the team 😂😂😂
@@mobilegoon10 thanks for your insight. This is all subjective, but I am a basketball fan. Your paragraph was pointless in my opinion, seems hostile honestly. I respect both LeBron and Kobe. Honestly I do have LeBron over Kobe in MY BOOK but I do not get pissed off about other people having Kobe over LeBron. I respect other people's opinions. I overstand that it's rightfully so, Kobe deserves it, just as long as they put LeBron next in line or possibly even Larry Legend. My point is, I never came at Kobe, I stated a fact. Blessed day to you my Brother 💯
JESUS MARTINEZ 2010 NBA Finals Game 7 Lakers 83 Celtics 79 Kobe Bryant 6-24 fg and 0-6 3pt for 23 points 2013 NBA Finals Game 7 Heat 95 Spurs 88 LeBron James 12-23 fg and 5-10 3pt for 37 points Game winning playoff buzzer beaters LeBron 5 > Kobe 1 Kobe vs LeBron PPG: LeBron RPG: LeBron APG: LeBron SPG: LeBron BPG: LeBron FG%: LeBron 3PT%: LeBron FT%: Kobe TS%: LeBron WS: LeBron PER: LeBron MVP's: LeBron FMVP's: LeBron Rings: Kobe (Best player on 2) LeBron better player then Kobe Seasons avg +25 ppg LeBron 14 > Kobe 12 Seasons avg +25 ppg on +50% fg LeBron 8 > Kobe 0 Seasons shooting +40% 3pt LeBron 1 > Kobe 0 Triple Doubles LeBron 74 > Kobe 21 Career +30 point games scoring LeBron 436 > Kobe 431 Career highs scoring Kobe Bryant 28-46 fg and 7-13 3pt for 81 points vs Raptors 27-55 record LeBron James 22-33 fg and 8-10 3pt for 61 points vs Bobcats 43-39 record Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg most missed shots in nba history isn't top 8 all time player NBA top ten all time players 1. Michael Jordan 2. LeBron James 3. Kareem Abdul-Jabber 4. Wilt Chamberlain 5. Magic Johnson 6. Larry Bird 7. Shaquille O'Neal 8. Tim Duncan 9. Kobe Bryant 10. Hakeem Olajuwon
@@htownboy4676 you got way too much time on your hands to post all of that. Lebron has stats like that because there is no defense in the league anymore plain and simple. I come from the jordan era so he's my #1 no doubt. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, that's just mine. Lebron is good no doubt but he's not the goat.
JESUS MARTINEZ lebron fan boys have stats without context... for some reason him dribbling the ball for a hour on top of the key until a shooter gets open and makes a simple ass pass anybody else can make , and a uncontested rebound is more important than actually playingg defense which we all know lebron rarely plays. And lebron mostly gets his points off of picks so he can get a mismatch on a slow center or a small guard. Thwse ppl watch stat sheets not the games
H Town Boy Kobes stats for that game 7 looks bad because he was getting fouled on every shot lol. He had 15 free throws 😂 let me guess, you didn’t actually watch the game did you and you just want to hate on Kobe for no reason in particular?
@@htownboy4676 Eastern conference was weak. Lebron had more help. Lebron lost in the finals 6 times. Kobe makes the team lebron recruits stars. Kobe plays through injury lebron sit out of games uninjured. Kobe picks up the best scorer. Lebron runs away from defense. Kobe stays with the team LeBron switches teams to find more stars to play with. Here are some fun facts for you to think about
For once I agree with Shaq on something. People keep saying Shaq carried Kobe. Shaq was a very dominant player but to say he carried him isn't exactly accurate. Kobe went on to be one of the greatest players of all-time. I don't put him over Jordan or Lebron but involving him in that conversation does make a lot of sense to me because of his skillset and what he was able to accomplish.
"isn't exactly accurate" is the same thing as saying "yes he was carried" although termed in a disguised sentence. To say then that he was carried is totally false because at the end of the day, without Kobe, Shaq wouldn't have won any of those championships. Case in point... When he was with Orlando he played with Penny Hardaway, Kobe-like player with a better passing game. How many championships did they have? ZERO. So the reality is that neither Kobe nor Shaq carried each other. But rather, each was the missing part to their dynasty. Now for you say that Kobe isn't greater than Lebron, well that's your fanboy opinion. But whatever criteria you have to try to actualize that argument still can't get over the huge fact that 6 beats 5, 5 beats 3. More importantly, 6 out of 6 is 100%, 5 out of 7 is 71%, while 3 out of 8 is a measly 38%. And unless there has be a HUGE HUGE DEPARTURE from what the game of basketball is, then those championships are the ultimate goal
@@dominoslays4286 you're comment is hilarious to me. I ain't a Lebron fanboy. Kobe and Jordan have been by far my favorite players for years. Winning chips involves a players contribution of course but its a team win. If it was based on championships alone Horry, Russell and Havlicek and a few others would be considered better than Jordan. I like Lebron but I'm not huge fan of him but I can't argue with his stats or his skills. He is a more efficient player offensively than Kobe was. Secondly, me saying "it isn't exactly" accurate isn't the same as saying Shaq carried him. That wasn't what I was trying to say, that's how you interpreted it. They both carried their weight. Shaq and Kobe's scoring was almost identical the last two years. In order to "carry" someone the other person can't be pulling their own weight or equal weight. Even Shaq said he needed him. They both went on to win championships afterwards so that argument from anyone is just ridiculous.
@@dominoslays4286 ▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫ Pippen 6 rings > Kobe 5 rings 😂 ▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫ If having more team award rings and better team finals record means better player than Pippen better than Kobe ▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫ Rings = Team Award ▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫ Finals Record = Team Record ▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫ Mavs 4-0 swept Kobe ass to stop him from 6 rings in 2011 playoffs guess that doesnt count since it wasnt a nba finals lost ▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫ Finals Mvps at 3 rings Jordan 3 LeBron 3 Duncan 3 Shaq 3 Kobe 0 😂😂😂😂😂 ▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫ First Ring Kobe 15.6 ppg and 36.7% fg Carried by Shaq 38 ppg and 61% fg 😂 ▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫ Shaq O'Neal 3 finals mvps best player on Lakers 3peat and Kobe Bryant sidekick😂 ▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫ LeBron James averages more points, rebounds, assists, steals, blocks and a higher fg%, 3pt% then Kobe Bryant. So it's pretty clear LeBron the better player 😂 ▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫ League Mvps LeBron 4 > Kobe 1 ▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫ Finals Mvps LeBron 3 > Kobe 2 ▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫ LeBron 3 times best player on his teams titles ▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫ Kobe 2 times was best player on his teams titles ▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫ League Mvps = individual player ▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫ Finals Mvps = individual player ▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫ Both Jordan and LeBron finals mvps and best player for all they titles unlike Kobe 😂 ▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫ Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg most missed shots in nba history and 3x sidekick aint top 9 all time player ▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫ Jordan, Kareem, LeBron, Magic, Wilt, Russell, Bird, Shaq, Duncan better than Kobe
Now, this is the evidence of the greatness of both Kobe and Shaq. The two of them clashed heads like battering rams at one point and yet, the mutual respect was obviously never lost
The media hates Kobe that's why they're not mentioning him..such disrespect..ask the players though and they will mention Kobe.. I'd rather believe the players because they know better than these stupid media people.
2010 NBA Finals Game 7 Lakers 83 Celtics 79 Kobe Bryant 6-24 fg and 0-6 3pt for 23 points 2013 NBA Finals Game 7 Heat 95 Spurs 88 LeBron James 12-23 fg and 5-10 3pt for 37 points Game winning playoff buzzer beaters LeBron 5 > Kobe 1 Kobe vs LeBron PPG: LeBron RPG: LeBron APG: LeBron SPG: LeBron BPG: LeBron FG%: LeBron 3PT%: LeBron FT%: Kobe TS%: LeBron WS: LeBron PER: LeBron MVP's: LeBron FMVP's: LeBron Rings: Kobe (Best player on 2) LeBron better player then Kobe Seasons avg +25 ppg LeBron 14 > Kobe 12 Seasons avg +25 ppg on +50% fg LeBron 8 > Kobe 0 Seasons shooting +40% 3pt LeBron 1 > Kobe 0 Triple Doubles LeBron 74 > Kobe 21 Career +30 point games scoring LeBron 436 > Kobe 431 Career highs scoring Kobe Bryant 28-46 fg and 7-13 3pt for 81 points vs Raptors 27-55 record LeBron James 22-33 fg and 8-10 3pt for 61 points vs Bobcats 43-39 record Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg most missed shots in nba history isn't top 8 all time player NBA top ten all time players 1. Michael Jordan 2. LeBron James 3. Kareem Abdul-Jabber 4. Wilt Chamberlain 5. Magic Johnson 6. Larry Bird 7. Shaquille O'Neal 8. Tim Duncan 9. Kobe Bryant 10. Hakeem Olajuwon 2008 season January 27 Cavs 98 Lakers 95 LeBron 41 points Outplayed Kobe 33 points LeBron James hit shot in Kobe Bryant face to ice game 2010 Season December 25 Heat 96 Lakers 80 LeBron 8-14 fg and 5-6 3pt for 27 points an triple double Outplayed Kobe 6-16 fg and 1-3 3pt for 17 points 2013 January 17 LeBron 17-25 fg for 39 points Outplayed Kobe 8-25 fg for 22 points In this game LeBron 25 shots 17 makes Kobe 25 shots 17 missed Stats in career meetings LeBron 28 ppg and 47% fg Kobe 24 ppg and 42% If Kobe Bryant could stop LeBron James he would have guarded him whole game LeBron James 16-6 owns Kobe Bryant ass in 22 career meetings LeBron James outplayed Kobe Bryant in they meetings Where was Kobe Bryant defense at he could not stop LeBron James from killing Lakers
@@kentkitchens6150 LeBron fanboys cut and paste each other comments. LeBron is not even greatest small forward ever Larry Bird is. Bird played against 8 hall of fame small forwards in his era. So before LeHype Shames can be compared to Kobe, understand he's not better than Larry Bird.
@@marinaaliongco ▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫ Pippen 6 rings > Kobe 5 rings 😂 ▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫ If having more team award rings and better team finals record means better player than Pippen better than Kobe ▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫ Rings = Team Award ▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫ Finals Record = Team Record ▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫ Mavs 4-0 swept Kobe ass to stop him from 6 rings in 2011 playoffs guess that doesnt count since it wasnt a nba finals lost ▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫ Finals Mvps at 3 rings Jordan 3 LeBron 3 Duncan 3 Shaq 3 Kobe 0 😂😂😂😂😂 ▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫ First Ring Kobe 15.6 ppg and 36.7% fg Carried by Shaq 38 ppg and 61% fg 😂 ▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫ Shaq O'Neal 3 finals mvps best player on Lakers 3peat and Kobe Bryant sidekick😂 ▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫ LeBron James averages more points, rebounds, assists, steals, blocks and a higher fg%, 3pt% then Kobe Bryant. So it's pretty clear LeBron the better player 😂 ▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫ League Mvps LeBron 4 > Kobe 1 ▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫ Finals Mvps LeBron 3 > Kobe 2 ▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫ LeBron 3 times best player on his teams titles ▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫ Kobe 2 times was best player on his teams titles ▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫ League Mvps = individual player ▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫ Finals Mvps = individual player ▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫ Both Jordan and LeBron finals mvps and best player for all they titles unlike Kobe 😂 ▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫ Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg most missed shots in nba history and 3x sidekick aint top 9 all time player ▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫ Jordan, Kareem, LeBron, Magic, Wilt, Russell, Bird, Shaq, Duncan better than Kobe
My top 5: 1. Michael Jordan 2. Kobe Bryant 3. Magic Johnson 4. Larry Bird 5. Kareem Abdul Jabbar Tim Duncan I put at number 6 for now, and if Lebron were to retire having accomplished all he has without winning a few more championships, he’d be number 3 behind Jordan, and Kobe.
🤔hmm...Thats a great list. We have the same top 5 if LeBron were to retire right now, only thing I ever think about is if we're showing enough love to the big men, you know the Shaq's, Hakeems's, Kareem's, Russell's, Wilt's, etc
KBrown2480 It’s funny you mention Shaq, because when it comes to the center position, I put him at number 2 behind Kareem. This is my list 1.Kareem 2.Shaq 3.Wilt 4.Hakeem 5.Russell
@@darrylwallace2428 oh yeah, spot on. I mean last three can be argued only because it's like Championships vs Skill vs Dominance. But most definitely those are the top 5
Kobe Bryant fell from grace media wise with the rape allegations, even tho during that stretch and after he played some of the most impressive basketaball imaginable. But remember he was suddenly a villain, lost all those endorsements. But real ballers, the legends, arguable GOATs, just watching the game its hard to believe Kobe gets left out of these converstations.
No Kobe isnt in goat convo because he isnt even best player at his own position Goat 🐐Jordan best SG ever easily As long as Micheal Jordan exist Kobe will always be in his shadow Kobe isnt even best player in his own franchise. Both Kareem and Magic better players than Kobe If a name should be brought up in goat convo its Kareem Kobe wasnt even best player on Lakers 3peat in 2000, 2001, 2002 Shaq 3 finals mvps was First Ring Kobe 15.6 ppg and 36.7% fg and 20% 3pt Carried by Shaq 38 ppg and 61% fg and 16 rpg Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg most missed shots in nba history and 3x sidekick isnt top 9 all time player Jordan, Kareem, LeBron, Chamberlain, Magic, Bird, Hakeem, Shaq, Duncan all better players than Kobe
@@deemix2142 81 points in come from behind win. Second highest in any position , even Jordan's. 60 on retirement day, in come from behind win. Stats are not emotional and stats don't lie.
Some people really just love to throw disrespect when talking about Kobe, I mean yall do realize he very possibly could've went down as the greatest ever if not for the torn Achilles tendon injury...And that's just the biggest of dozens that he had in his career only because he wasn't blessed with the actual physical gift MJ was and more so Lebron, making his feat even more impressive to me that he had to rely mostly on hard work, dedication and acquired skill rather than gifted skills
KBrown2480 I love Kobe but what gifts did MJ have that Kobe didn’t? Besides Big hands. MJ worked his ass off to be who he was. He had a ridiculous drive, ambition and will to win. Nobody talked him up and told him he was the next best whomever. MJ is just it! Change the game...made his own way. The most fundamentally sound with ridiculous athleticism in a player there ever will be. His skills were ridiculous. Kobe is next up to bat though as far as being ridiculously skilled, His handle is better than MJ’s too.Then T Mac is next. Lebron ain’t even in the discussion for top 20 players as far as being a skilled hooper. He’s just Big, Fast and plays in a horrible soft league. What moves does he have? His post game is awful, his footwork sucks, he stays walking. To me he was a better player when he was younger. He didn’t bully his way to the basket like he does now. He used to used more jumpers and drove to the basket with more skillful quick moves. Watch his games vs T Mac and the Pistons. Bron can play but he’s just media made freak above all the rest in this poop butt league🤣😂 Where’s the Defense at🤔
@@clintonwalters8993 okay we're basically on the same page, I think the way I worded my comment particularly the last sentence made u take what I was saying differently than intended. Ur talking about skills I was just trying to point out the "physical gifts" that MJ and more so LeBron were blessed with Kobe wasn't. Kobe and Jordan played the same kind of game but Jordan had broader shoulders and was just more naturally big than Kobe, leading to him being able to take more punishment and have less consequences throughout his career. In terms of gifts on the basketball court aka skills, ofc their mindset is what sets them apart from literally everyone EVER and they both worked ridiculously hard to get as good as they were. And as far as what u said about LeBron, I get y u would say that but, no hate, I think that being a great baller took a lot more than that, there was a guy more skilled than Jordan coming up, multiple of those guys for Kobe. Lebron's adapted to this soft ass league, and adapted his game also to fit himself. He may not be top 20 all time in terms of skilled ballers but all things counted for hes still highly skilled player(with an ugly kinda game tho😂) and probably the most all around player the league has ever seen
KBrown2480🤣His game is very ugly! I’m not hating on Lebron at all. He has to have some kind of skills to do what he’s doing but he’s not Skilled in the art of footwork and just plain out game if that make sense. Like Even Hakeem Olajuwon says MJ is far superior to Lebron. So how can he be before Kobe or any other player Skill wise. Lebron is gonna get his but is he better skillfully than KD, Harden, Kyrie, Prime D Wade? The list goes on.
2:30-2:34 I worked hard enough to be DOMINANT ... but I didn't work hard enough to be THE BEST. Shaquille literally confirmed what Kobe knew the ENTIRE time they were together in Los Angeles.
I kinda feel like the NBA, specifically David Stern kinda ruined the backend of Kobes career. Voiding that trade had many consequences in my opinion. The personalities really did not fit on that team, and Nash was too old to really be a factor or a definitive voice as a leader in the locker room. Cp3 replacing Nash gives the Lakers a much better player and leader at the time, allowing him to better manage the large personalities that existed, including his own. Kobe was basically doing what James harden is this season, which was carrying his team every single night, except he was older and the team wasn't as unified therefore wasnt really as good. Had he been able to relax a bit more and not put in 150% every night just for a win he probably would've played at a high level for the next 4-5 years at least, (just think about what he did after coming back from the injury), after all that I think they had the possibility of winning at least 2 or 3 more championships in that span b4 he retired, maybe an MVP, but that's pushing it, and I really feel he would've went down as the greatest ever if not a very close 1A, 1B battle with Mike
▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫ Jordan 6 Finals Mvps best player on all 6 Rings in 15 Seasons ▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫ Kobe 2 Finals Mvps best player only on 2 rings in 20 Seasons ▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫ 🐐 Jordan 6 Rings without ever needing a top 10 all time player like Prime Superstar Shaq O'Neal ▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫ First Ring Kobe 15.6 ppg and 36.7% fg Carried by Shaq 38 ppg and 61% fg ▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫ First Ring Jordan 31.2 ppg and 11.4 apg and 6.6 rpg and 55.8% fg ▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫ Phil Jackson even says in his Book that Jordan better player then Kobe ▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫ Phil Jackson coach both players ▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫ Goat 🐐 Jordan >> Copycat Kobe ▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫ Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg most missed shots in nba histoty isnt even top 9 all time player 😂😂 ▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫ Jordan, LeBron, Chamberlain, Magic, Bird, Russell, Shaq, Duncan all better players than Kobe
@@marwinrice4543 ▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫ Jordan 6 Finals Mvps best player on all 6 Rings in 15 Seasons ▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫ Kobe 2 Finals Mvps best player only on 2 rings in 20 Seasons ▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫ 🐐 Jordan 6 Rings without ever needing a top 10 all time player like Prime Superstar Shaq O'Neal ▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫ First Ring Kobe 15.6 ppg and 36.7% fg Carried by Shaq 38 ppg and 61% fg ▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫ First Ring Jordan 31.2 ppg and 11.4 apg and 6.6 rpg and 55.8% fg ▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫ Phil Jackson even says in his Book that Jordan better player then Kobe ▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫ Phil Jackson coach both players ▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫ Goat 🐐 Jordan >> Copycat Kobe ▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫ Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg most missed shots in nba histoty isnt even top 9 all time player 😂😂 ▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫ Jordan, LeBron, Chamberlain, Magic, Bird, Russell, Shaq, Duncan all better players than Kobe
@@sitntalkwitsiah2068 People always forget to mention that Jalen Rose undercut Kobe and took him out during that Finals... And then he averaged 30 ppg in the 01 playoffs.
2010 Lakers were first seed with 57 wins... 8th seed (forget who) had 50 wins which shows HOW HARD THE WEST WAS DURING KOBES TIME.... kobe hit 7 game winners that year.... nuff said
Points Scored Kareem 38,387✔ (1st all time) Kobe 33,643 Field Goal% Kareem 55.9%✔ Kobe 44.7% Rings Kareem 6✔ Kobe 5 League Mvps Kareem 6✔ (most ever) Kobe 1 All star games Kareem 19✔ (most ever) Kobe 18 Kareem better player then Kobe NBA top 10 greatest players 1. Michael Jordan 2. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 3. LeBron James (could rise to 2nd) 4. Wilt Chamberlain 5. Magic Johnson 6. Larry Bird 7. Hakeem Olajuwon 8. Shaquille O'Neal 9. Tim Duncan 10. Kobe Bryant Kobe 14,481 most missed shots all time No way Kobe 2nd all time I would to know the dope you on😂
Even the host knows what Shaq says it's true and you can see that by looking at his face when Shaq asked him about Kobe,he says that you have a great point but he didn't mentioned him while he knows that Kobe is up there..The disrespect is real!
▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫ NBA Finals 2010 Game 7 Lakers 83 Celtics 79 Kobe Bryant 6-24 fg and 0-6 3pt for 23 points ▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫ NBA Finals 2013 Game 7 Heat 95 Spurs 88 LeBron James 12-23 fg and 5-10 3pt for 37 points ▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫ Game winning playoff buzzer beaters LeBron 5 > Kobe 1 ▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫ Kobe vs LeBron PPG: LeBron RPG: LeBron APG: LeBron SPG: LeBron BPG: LeBron FG%: LeBron 3PT%: LeBron FT%: Kobe TS%: LeBron WS: LeBrom PER: LeBron MVP's: LeBron FMVP's: LeBron Rings: Kobe (Best player on 2) ▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫ LeBron better player then Kobe ▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫ Seasons avg +25 ppg LeBron 14 > Kobe 12 ▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫ Seasons avg +25 ppg on +50% fg LeBron 8 > Kobe 0 ▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫ Seasons shooting +40% 3pt LeBron 1 > Kobe 0 ▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫ Triple Doubles LeBron 76 > Kobe 21 ▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫ Career +30 point games LeBron 436 > Kobe 431 ▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫ Career highs ▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫ Kobe Bryant 28-46 fg and 7-13 3pt for 81 points vs Raptors 27-55 record ▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫ LeBron James 22-33 fg and 8-10 3pt for 61 points vs Bobcats 43-39 record ▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫ First Ring Kobe 15.6 ppg and 36.7% fg Carried by Shaq 38 ppg and 61% fg ▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫ Shaq O'Neal 3 finals mvps was best player on Lakers 3peat and Kobe Bryant sidekick ▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫ NBA top 10 best players 1. Michael Jordan 2. LeBron James 3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 4. Wilt Chamberlain 5. Magic Johnson 6. Larry Bird 7. Shaquille O'Neal 8. Tim Duncan 9. Kobe Bryant 10. Bill Russell
@@martinsmith7407 yeah sure but all these stats. But have you ever heard of players who played with and against both Kobe and Lebron that they would take Kobe over Bron. I mean, those guys have first hand experience playing with and against them. Jalen Rose, Jim Jackson, Kenyon Martin, Ron Artest to name a few.
@@jeraldvincentzumel5300 Paul Pierce said LeBron James better player than Kobe Bryant on Breakfast club morning show 😂😂 Paul Pierce has LeBron in his top 5 and doesnt have Kobe Former nba player Baron Davis said LeBron better player than Kobe on Breakfast club morning show 😂 Hall of famer Jerry West who made trade for Kobe to come to Lakers even says LeBron better player😂😂😂 Hall of famer Juilius Erving says Jordan, Kareem, LeBron top 3 all times players Steve Kerr 5 rings as a player with 3 more rings as coach says Jordan and LeBron 2 best players ever 😂😂 Carlos Boozer former teammate oh both says LeBron better than Kobe Boozer top 3 Jordan, Kareem, Kobe Nba players JJ Reddick and Jr Smith says LeBron best player ever 😂😂 Kobetards always have to run to biased opinion because the facts and stats say LeBron better player 😂😂😂 LeBron is Jordan athletic ability mixed with Magic passing in Malone body 😂 LeBron better player than Kobe Regular season PPG: LeBron APG: LeBron RPG: LeBron BPG: LeBron SPG: LeBron FT%: Kobe FG%: LeBron 3PT%: LeBron PER: LeBron WS: LeBron BPM: LeBron VORP: LeBron MVPs: LeBron (should be more) Playoffs PPG: LeBron APG: LeBron RPG: LeBron SPG: LeBron BPG: LeBron FT%: Kobe FG%: LeBron 3PT%: LeBron PER: LeBron BPM: LeBron VORP: LeBron Rings: Kobe (best player on 2) Finals MVPs: LeBron Kobrick Bryant 44.7% fg worst out of any player that's scored over 30,000 points 😂😂😂
i dont people realize how tough the western conference was back in the day PORTLAND, SACREMENTO, DALLAS, PHOENIX . the teams he had to go through to get 5 titles KOBE should be in the conversation as the GOAT
I'm not a Lebron Hater. But Lebron is a CHEATER like for real. Kobe didn't want any great players to come and play with him. KOBE just want to win with the players he got.
Be real. Kobe almost left the Lakers twice over personnel issues. HUGE CREDIT for sticking it out, but I never heard Kobe complain when Kwame got upgraded to Pau. 😂😂😂
The last ring Kobe won, the lakers were clearly out matched...celtics had 4 allstars, rondo, kg, ray, pierce... somehow kobe and the Lakers found a way to win. If u compare lebrons cavs vs kd gsw... it wasnt as big of a mismatch as that one, cuz lebron still had kyrie/love. Kobe didnt have someone like kyrie dropping 40. But kobe won against the celtics when he should have lost. And in 2011, lebrons superteam heat, lost when they should have won vs dirk n bunch of role players.
@@danmanes6817 yea and lebron went to espn and made an attention that i cant win i want to take my crab dribbling to southbeach. He even "travelled" his way there. Phenomenal footwork 😂
Shaq is right, respect the legends for paving the way! Shout out Elgin Baylor, Oscar Robinson, Wilt Chamberlain, Bill Russell, Pete Maravich, Julius Erving, Nate Archibald, and Erving Johnson. Salute
This is 1000% facts, like I know the media doesn't want him, the haters, don't want him but I find it ridiculous when hes not even mentioned up there with the greatest of all time. In terms of pure basketball skill LeBron is number 1, like there is just no debating the physical gifts he brings to the discussion, but when we're talking about the G.O.A.T its so much more than that
basketball skill and physical abilities are 2 very different things. Both MJ and Kobe are way more skillful than Bron ever will be. Hell if you're talking offensively, Kobe has a larger array of weapons compared to MJ. In terms of pure basketball skill, Lebron is not even top 5.
@@andycarollsuarez yeah ur right I was kind of speaking on from a production standpoint with everything he can do on the court and his physical frame hes the most all around gifted player, like a combination of both physical and basketball skill. But yeah guess i worded that wrong
@@andycarollsuarez 2010 NBA Finals Game 7 Lakers 83 Celtics 79 Kobe Bryant 6-24 fg and 0-6 3pt for 23 points 2013 NBA Finals Game 7 Heat 95 Spurs 88 LeBron James 12-23 fg and 5-10 3pt for 37 points Game winning playoff buzzer beaters LeBron 5 > Kobe 1 Kobe vs LeBron PPG: LeBron RPG: LeBron APG: LeBron SPG: LeBron BPG: LeBron FG%: LeBron 3PT%: LeBron FT%: Kobe TS%: LeBron WS: LeBron PER: LeBron MVP's: LeBron FMVP's: LeBron Rings: Kobe (Best player on 2) LeBron better player then Kobe Seasons avg +25 ppg LeBron 14 > Kobe 12 Seasons avg +25 ppg on +50% fg LeBron 8 > Kobe 0 Seasons shooting +40% 3pt LeBron 1 > Kobe 0 Triple Doubles LeBron 74 > Kobe 21 Career +30 point games scoring LeBron 436 > Kobe 431 Career highs scoring Kobe Bryant 28-46 fg and 7-13 3pt for 81 points vs Raptors 27-55 record LeBron James 22-33 fg and 8-10 3pt for 61 points vs Bobcats 43-39 record Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg most missed shots in nba history isn't top 8 all time player NBA top ten all time players 1. Michael Jordan 2. LeBron James 3. Kareem Abdul-Jabber 4. Wilt Chamberlain 5. Magic Johnson 6. Larry Bird 7. Shaquille O'Neal 8. Tim Duncan 9. Kobe Bryant 10. Hakeem Olajuwon 2008 season January 27 Cavs 98 Lakers 95 LeBron 41 points Outplayed Kobe 33 points LeBron James hit shot in Kobe Bryant face to ice game 2010 Season December 25 Heat 96 Lakers 80 LeBron 8-14 fg and 5-6 3pt for 27 points an triple double Outplayed Kobe 6-16 fg and 1-3 3pt for 17 points 2013 January 17 LeBron 17-25 fg for 39 points Outplayed Kobe 8-25 fg for 22 points In this game LeBron 25 shots 17 makes Kobe 25 shots 17 missed Stats in career meetings LeBron 28 ppg and 47% fg Kobe 24 ppg and 42% If Kobe Bryant could stop LeBron James he would have guarded him whole game LeBron James 16-6 owns Kobe Bryant ass in 22 career meetings LeBron James outplayed Kobe Bryant in they meetings Where was Kobe Bryant defense at he could not stop LeBron James from killing Lakers
Kobe was not a "copy" of mj...he was Next level!!....but mj worshipers are programmed to "minimize" everything the Mamba "did"....Kobe was a better ball handler...shooter...dunker(sick reverse dunks in traffic)...his competition was More athletic...Kobe broke All of mj scoring records and did a Lot mj didn't do!...played more years...won chips with Less talent...made his teammates better(only needed 1 all star to get to the Finals....Russell/mj/bird/magic/Kareem played on STACKED teams.....Kobe was a threat to mj worshipers soon as he dropped "55" on mj wizards....and he was hated because he was cocky and went right AT mj soon as he got to the league......media Always make biased comparisons thru stats and taking everything out of context...mvp's are politics....you could argue Dennis rodman should have been Finals mvp one of the years Jordan got it.....he was a threat to pass mj ring count...so owners cried to stern to nix trade(Jordan too)..and stop Chris Paul from going to Lakers!!(never happened before in league history).....Kobe=Goat...(copy dat)
LeBron James averages more points, rebounds, assists, steals, blocks and a higher fg%, 3pt% then Kobe Bryant. So its pretty clear LeBron the better player😂
1.Jordan 2.Kareem 3.LeBron 4.Chamberlain 5.Magic 6.Bird 7.Hakeem 8. Shaq 9.Duncan 10.Kobe Career Points Kareem 38,387✔ (Most Ever) Kobe 33,643 Field Goal% Kareem 55%✔ Kobe 44.7% Rings Kareem 6✔ Kobe 5 League Mvps Kareem 6✔ (Most Ever) Kobe 1 Finals Mvps Kareem 2 Kobe 2 All Star Games Kareem 19✔ (Most Ever) Kobe 18 Kareem all time leading scorer Kobe 14,481 all time missed shots leader Kareem better than Kobe 😂 Jordan and Kareem top 2 😂 Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg most missed shots in nba history isnt even in top 9 all time players I have Kobe 10th all time You on heavy drugs if you think Kobe above Kareem 😂😂😂 Mavs 4-0 swept Kobe ass in 2011 playoffs 😂
Mamba was the definite best player on the planet from 2001-2010, which was the the most competitive and the most athletic era of the NBA. Never mention or question why he only had 1 reg season MVP as this award is purely media based hence very subjective. Mamba cannot be measured by personal stats alone as it is a disservice to this greatness. He is all about winning the wars no matter what it takes. Eye test, championships, breath taking moments, game intangibles and the fear he brought to his opponents made the mamba the GOAT.
Kobe wasnt even best player on his own team from 1996-2004 2003 season Tim Duncan best player in nba led Spurs to 60 wins and nba title and best record won league mvp an finals mvp in same season and in playoffs Duncan led Spurs beat Kobe and Shaq Lakers 2003 playpoffs Spurs 4 Lakers 2 Game 6 Spurs 110 Lakers 82 Tim Duncan 37 points and 16 rebounds Outplayed Kobe 20 points After game Kobe was caught crying on sideline with Derek Fisher💀
The real know Kobe is a better basketball player than LeBron. LeBron is bigger, stronger, and more athletic sure.. that still does not make you the better player 💀. I think ppl get LeBron’s dominance confused with skill. LeBron has never and will never score 81 points in a game.
▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫ Career high Wilt 100✔ Kobe 81 ▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫ Points Per Game Wilt 30.07✔ Kobe 24.99 ▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫ Field Goal% Wilt 54% Kobe 44.7% ▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫ Scoring Titles Wilt 7✔ Kobe 2 ▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫ Triple Doubles Wilt 78✔ Kobe 21 ▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫ Leading nba in assists Wilt 1✔ Kobe 0 ▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫ League Mvps Wilt 4✔ Kobe 1 ▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫ Wilt Chamberlain better scorer than Kobe Bryant ▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫ Wilt Chamberlain better all around player than Kobe Bryant ▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫▫ My eye test tells me Wilt better than Kobe and i have statiscial evidence to back it up 😂
@@beefwearclothingjones1654 Kobe not in goat convo even a little bit Kobe not even best player ever at his own position Goat 🐐Jordan best SG ever As long as Micheal Jordan exist yo hero Kobe Bryant will always be in his shadow I dont even have to bring LeBron up 😂 Kobe not even best player ever in his own franchise Kareem and Magic better than Kobe Why does Kareem name get skipped over and Kobe name brought up 😂😂 Kareem best player ever at his position Center Kareem more nba titles, league mvps, points, fgs, rebounds then Kobe 😂😂 Kobe wasnt even best player on his first 3 titles Shaquille O'Neal 3 finals mvps best player on Lakers 3peat and Kobe Bryant side First ring Kobe 15.6 ppg and 36.7% fg and 20% 3pt Carried by Shaq 38 ppg and 61% fg and 16 rpg I will take Duncan over Kobe Finals mvps Duncan 3✔ Kobe 2 League mvps Duncan 2✔ Kobe 1 FG% Duncan 50.6%✔ Kobe 44.7% Kobe 6 times led nba in missed shots Kobe 2 times led nba in scoring Kobe led nba in missed shots more than he led nba in scoring 😭😭 Kobe most overrated player Duncan most underrated
They should never be compared! That's it. These dudes give everything on this game the least we could give back is to appreciate their greatness. You can appreciate without comparing and the nonsense arguments.
Shaq hit it on the nose it is very disrespectful Kobe Studied Michael Jordan, Jordan and Kobe should be the conversation in their style of play not Lebron.
Im so glad that shaq's put this out there. I have been saying this for years. Kobe is up there with Jordan. But less keep it real, if your going off of rings, mr. Russel is the goat. Go Lakers
@@georgeofthejungle9193 Jordan 6 finals mvps best player on all 6 titles he won Kobe 2 finals mvps best player on only 2 titles he won 😂 First Ring Kobe 15.6 ppg and 36.7% fg and 20% 3pt Carried by Shaq 38 ppg and 61% fg and 16 rpg First Ring Jordan 31.2 ppg and 6.6 rpg and 11.4 apg an 55.8% fg and 50% 3pt Shaquille O'Neal 3 finals mvps best player on Lakers 3peat and Kobe Bryant a sidekick Goat 🐐Jordan never needed a top 10 all time player like Shaquille O'Neal to win titles 😂😂😂 Jordan only had Pippen first 3 titles which you failed to mention 1991 playoffs Bulls 4 Pistons 0 Jordan swept the bad boys Pistons with 3 hall of famers Isiah Thomas, Joe Dumars, Dennis Rodman 😂 Dennis Rodman wasnt on all of Jordans titles you dumb ass😂😂 Dennis Rodman 35, 36, 37 years old was on Bulls last 3peat in 1996, 1997, 1998😂😂 Kobe had Dennis Rodman and Shaquille O'Neal and still couldnt win in 1999 😂 Goat 🐐Jordan > Copycat Kobe Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg most missed shots in nba history isnt even top 9 all time player Jordan, Kareem, LeBron, Chamberlain, Magic, Bird, Duncan, Shaq, Hakeem all better players than Kobe Mavs 4-0 swept Kobe ass in 2011 playoffs😂😂😂 D
Bosh is a dominant big man now? Dude played like a guard most of the time. He got an okay amount of rebounds but calling him a DOMINANT BIG MAN is a bit of a reach 😂
@@kvltizt 11 times all star out of 13 seasons, and was the franchise player for the raptors during a long time. its true that he had a different role at miami, but the guy was quality
If MJ said it’s disrespectul to call me GOAT because he didn’t play against other players in the past, why is Brady the goat when the nfl turn hella soft for the offense. Can’t touch QBs nor WRs. Plus, spygate/delfategate/cameragate/And all other gates lol PEDgate(Edelman).
Have you ever heard Brady refer to himself as the goat and oh ya stay mad 6 rings most by any NFL player ever end of discussion also I've seen my team in more super bowls in my 20 years of life than your team will make in your lifetime feels bad :(
Butter Johnson individual play doesn’t win anything had one of his best Super Bowls against the eagles and lost he did what he had to to win this time I wouldn’t say he had a bad game but it was far from good too
They don’t mention Kobe because the media hates Kobe.
Think it was his testimony..Kobe is a freak wiki it and it will change your view
Drizzy Kendricks, you’re comical, you failed to mention Kobe missed 3 full seasons with serious injuries and still scored over 33,000 points. kobe and Shaq led the lakers to those 3 titles. Kobe proved he could win without Shaq and added 2 more titles to his illustrious career. I guess Jordan won all those titles all by himself? I guess it was ok when Michael Jordan led the league taking shots and missing shots. I believe MJ is 4th in missing the most shot in the history of the NBA. If you’re just going by stats then you know Kobe has more points and assists then MJ. Stats only tell part of the story. Kobe’s 81 point game was the single greatest game in NBA history and yes I know Wilt had 100 points. Kobe could do everything Jordan could do and if I’m lying please show where Kobe couldn’t do what Jordan could do on the court. The media hated Kobe or he would have 5 league MVPs too.
@@Mike1122.
Most missed shots in nba history
1. Kobe Bryant 14,481
2. John Havlicek 13,417
3. Elvin Hayes 13,296
Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg worst of any player thats scored over 30,000 points 💀
Kobe Bryant 6 times led nba in missed shots
Kobe Bryant 2 times led nba in scoring
Kobe Bryant led nba in missed shots more then he led nba in scoring
Scoring titles
Kobe 2 > LeBron 1
Seasons leading nba in shot attempts
Kobe 6 > LeBron 0
Kobe only 1 more scoring title despite the fact he led nba in shot attempts 6 times more than LeBron 0
LeBron James averages more points, rebounds, assists, steals, blocks and a higher fg%, 3pt% then Kobe Bryant. Its pretty clear LeBron the better player
In fewer shot attempts LeBron is going to pass Kobe Bryant for 3rd on all time scoring list 😂
LeBron James going to have more career points, rebounds, assists, steals, blocks higher fg%, 3pt% higher offensive and defensive rating more double doubles, triple doubles, all nba first teams, league mvps, finals mvps more playoff game winning buzzer beaters, better postseasons and nba finals performaces than Kobe
Kobe Bryant never shot above 46.9% fg in 20 seasons
Seasons shooting +50% fg
LeBron 8
Jordan 6
Kobe 0
Kobe Bryant 1 mvp in 20 seasons lol
Kobe Bryant 2 finals mvps out of 5 titles
Shaq O'Neal 3 finals mvps best player on Lakers 3peat and Kobe Bryant sidekick
First Ring
Kobe 15.6 ppg and 36.7% fg and 20% 3pt
Carried by
Shaq 38 ppg and 61% fg and 16 rpg
Finals Mvps at 3 rings
Jordan 3
LeBron 3
Duncan 3
Shaq 3
Kobe 0 😂
Bill Russell 11 rings
Sam Jones 10 rings
Tom Heinsohn 8 rings
KC Jones 8 rings
Tom Sanders 8 rings 😂😂
John Havlicek 8 rings
Horry 7 rings
Pippen 6 rings
Based on Kobetard logic 8 beats 5
All those players have more rings than Kobe
So if we going in ring order Kobe isnt top 5 😂
Rings = Team Award
Finals Record = Team Record
League Mvps = Individual player
Finals Mvps = Individual player
All nba team = Individual player
Stats = Individual player
Kobetards try to use team awards rings to prop Kobe Bryant to a status hes not at which hes not top 5 😂
Jordan, LeBron, Kareem, Wilt, Magic, Bird, Shaq, Duncan all better players than Kobe
Drizzy Kendricks, so you conveniently left off Michael Jordan whose number 4 on the missed shots list. You failed to mention Lebron played in the weaker conference his entire career and Kobe played in the strongest conference! Maybe you can tell the truth just once, Kobe shot 44 percent for his career and Jordan 49 percent for his career and 1 shot difference. Shaq dominated the first playoff run after which Kobe equally carried the lakers in 2001 and 2002 on their way to a 3 peat. Kobe dominated the west in the playoffs to help Shaq to those 3 MVP finals awards. Le bron has to go team up with Wade and Bosh just to get a ring. Let’s not forget if it weren’t for Scottie Pippen and kyrie irving Jordan and Lebron wouldn’t have 6 and 3 rings. Kobe led the lakers to back to back titles the years Lebron had the best team record wise in the NBA. Orlando led by Howard put him out the playoff and an aging Boston Celtic team. Kobe is the Real GOAT he did it with Shaq unlike Jordan with Pippen or Lebron with Wade, Bosh and Irving. As for league MVP awards, Kobe should have 5 the media hated him. No, Nash Nowitki, Duncan, and Lebron didn’t deserve MVP over Kobe the years he lost. Your hate for Kobe it too evident.
Martin Smith I meant 6 th in all time misses, Dumbass. Either way you slices it up Jordan missed the 6th most shots in NBA history out of thousands of players, he wasn’t perfect either.
Kobe Lived the game like a lifestyle
Broken fingers,injurys,and never wanted to go out of the court!!! RESPECT KOBE FOR ME KOBE IS
TOP 2!!!!
Yes Kobe should be in the G.O.A.T conversation. He is one of the Greatest of all time
1.Jordan
2.Kareem
3.LeBron
4.Chamberlain
5.Magic
6.Bird
7.Hakeem
8. Shaq
9.Duncan
10.Kobe
Career Points
Kareem 38,387✔ (Most Ever)
Kobe 33,643
Field Goal%
Kareem 55%✔
Kobe 44.7%
Rings
Kareem 6✔
Kobe 5
League Mvps
Kareem 6✔ (Most Ever)
Kobe 1
Finals Mvps
Kareem 2
Kobe 2
All Star Games
Kareem 19✔ (Most Ever)
Kobe 18
Kareem all time leading scorer
Kobe 14,481 all time missed shots leader
Kareem better than Kobe 😂
Jordan and Kareem top 2 😂
Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg most missed shots in nba history isnt even in top 9 all time players
I have Kobe 10th all time
You on heavy drugs if you think Kobe above Kareem 😂😂😂
@@jasonstones8683 Excellent list Jason except I wouldn't put Michael Jordan number one
Bill Russell and his 10 rings beg to differ....
Kobe 7 finals appearance in a 10 year stretch going 5-2, out of a strong western conference, is just as impressive as Bron's 8 straight finals appearance
Marq Lock So technically those 8 finals appearance would be just 3 if he was on the West
Bro u might be right
Kobe had harder conference matches than lebron ever had. If you ask me Kobe’s journey to each title was more impressive than any of lebrons. 2016 was lebrons best win whereas every time Kobe went he had to deal with Phoenix San Antonio Denver Houston
10 year span 2000-2010
Just to know Kobe
10 years
32.2 ppg
49%shooting
5.7 rebounds
6.1 assist
2.2 steals
1.3 blocks
10 all star games- 4 MVP
10 first all team
8 first defensive all team
2-2nd team defensive
5-7 championships-71% rate
2002 went 15-1 playoffs
And played with a broken wrist and finger in 2 consecutive finals 2008-2009
2 finals mvps
1 regular season MVP
2 scoring titles
1 western conference finals
2006-2007lost to suns firstround arguably worst line up in NBA history
Had 5 months where he scored 40 or more points per game
Had 4-60 point games
Had 24-50 point games
Had 104-40 point games
Scored 81 points-65% shooting
Out scored mavericks 62-61 in three quarters by himself
Has scored 40 or more points on every NBA team twice
Had 12 threes one game tied 2nd to curry as of last year
2006 -3rd best offensive year not including wilt chamberlain ever
Think of this kobe played 20 seasons and won 5 chips that’s a 25% win rate. That’s actually ridiculous don’t count his first 3 seasons and last 5 that’s from 2000-2010 he literally won half the finals and went to 7 in 10 years that’s a 70% finals appearance percentage. That’s just incredible
It was a 10 year stretch legendary almost 👌
Shaq ALWAYS brings Kobe into the "GOAT" conversation and always let the interviewers know that he belongs there!
Armando Estrada he knew what that kid from philly brought to the table, exactly brother
Good for you Shaq...yeah why is Kobe never mentioned.
Marilyn Blaine because the media has always hated Kobe...Kobe came between the two guys the media have wanked off too more than anyone else...MJ and LeBron. At his best he was as good as anyone. Kobe should have cared about tricking the media more like LeBron has and he would be in all the top 5 lists ahead of LeBron. When Kobe was chasing MJ these guys would say “you can’t even have the discussion until he wins 6 rings”. Them LeBron comes along and its “3 or 6 whats the big difference”? I have watched them change the rules to elevate LBJ his entire career.
@@adam-thesportsguy6147 um FYI people posting comments on CZcams are not the media and 95% of comments say lebron > Kobe. so you can complain about the media not liking Kobe but NBA fans have lebron over kobe.
@@imsljr420 what about players who've played against kobe and lebron, not nba analyst who've never played basketball, but players that have battled against both, they always take kobe, think about it hater
@@lastofadyingbreed7489 ok first of all Carlos boozer and baron Davis have played against both and they both pick lebron over Kobe and 2nd why does it matter that some pick Kobe over lebron? does that mean Kobe is better than lebron? Kobe picked lebron over Jordan and has said a few times he would've loved to play with lebron. so does that mean lebron is better than Jordan? tmac also picked lebron over Jordan.
@@nightgoggles9931 the media is dumb as hell then because it's about how good you are at basketball and not anything outside that
I'll take Kobe in his prime over Lebron anyday
I’ll take Kobe in his prime versus anybody!
same
Ok u can have him. I'll take LeBron and my team is going to win.
2010 NBA Finals
Game 7
Lakers 83 Celtics 79
Kobe Bryant 6-24 fg and 0-6 3pt for 23 points
2013 NBA Finals
Game 7
Heat 95 Spurs 88
LeBron James 12-23 fg and 5-10 3pt for 37 points
Game winning playoff buzzer beaters
LeBron 5 > Kobe 1
Kobe vs LeBron
PPG: LeBron
RPG: LeBron
APG: LeBron
SPG: LeBron
BPG: LeBron
FG%: LeBron
3PT%: LeBron
FT%: Kobe
TS%: LeBron
WS: LeBron
PER: LeBron
MVP's: LeBron
FMVP's: LeBron
Rings: Kobe (Best player on 2)
LeBron better player then Kobe
Seasons avg +25 ppg
LeBron 14 > Kobe 12
Seasons avg +25 ppg on +50% fg
LeBron 8 > Kobe 0
Seasons shooting +40% 3pt
LeBron 1 > Kobe 0
Triple Doubles
LeBron 74 > Kobe 21
Career +30 point games scoring
LeBron 436 > Kobe 431
Career highs scoring
Kobe Bryant 28-46 fg and 7-13 3pt for 81 points vs Raptors 27-55 record
LeBron James 22-33 fg and 8-10 3pt for 61 points vs Bobcats 43-39 record
Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg most missed shots in nba history isn't top 8 all time player
NBA top ten all time players
1. Michael Jordan
2. LeBron James
3. Kareem Abdul-Jabber
4. Wilt Chamberlain
5. Magic Johnson
6. Larry Bird
7. Shaquille O'Neal
8. Tim Duncan
9. Kobe Bryant
10. Hakeem Olajuwon
2008 season January 27
Cavs 98 Lakers 95
LeBron 41 points
Outplayed
Kobe 33 points
LeBron James hit shot in Kobe Bryant face to ice game
2010 Season December 25
Heat 96 Lakers 80
LeBron 8-14 fg and 5-6 3pt for 27 points an triple double
Outplayed
Kobe 6-16 fg and 1-3 3pt for 17 points
2013 January 17
LeBron 17-25 fg for 39 points
Outplayed
Kobe 8-25 fg for 22 points
In this game
LeBron 25 shots 17 makes
Kobe 25 shots 17 missed
Stats in career meetings
LeBron 28 ppg and 47% fg
Kobe 24 ppg and 42%
If Kobe Bryant could stop LeBron James he would have guarded him whole game
LeBron James 16-6 owns Kobe Bryant ass in 22 career meetings
LeBron James outplayed Kobe Bryant in they meetings
Where was Kobe Bryant defense at he could not stop LeBron James from killing Lakers
Kerry Jones so you conveniently failed to mention the 2011 finals where Lebron was thoroughly outplayed by Jason terry? Or you failed to mention Lebron is 3-6 in nba finals also being swept. You failed to mention Lebron did most of his scoring on layups and dunks. You failed to mention Lebron played in a weaker conference his entire career until now. You failed to mention the years Kobe went to the finals 2009 and 2010 Lebron who was the league MVP and teams were the number 1 seeds lost to Orlando and Boston. Kobe played in the toughest conference and helped lead the lakers to the finals 7 times winning 5. Kobe would have averaged 40 ppg for a season if he got to play eastern teams 4 times a season. Must I continue?
I like how shaq is being so honest at the same time being humble and respectful to other legends with him, before him and legends in the making after him.... Those are words from a true legend.
James Arias He’s humble to every legend expect Chuck 😂
@@sharinngan5084 he does give respect to chuck if other players try to discredit him.
James Arias he feels bad now he should have got rebounds and block shots,he did the same stuff 2 Penny Hardaway not a coincidence!
Kobe is easily the most disrespected NBA player to ever live. He gets overlooked I don't get it.
Sam Fisher because he’s the most hated. He thrived in that hate though. It fueled him. He wasn’t as likable and would cut your throat to win!
@@instructorlex8273 I wanna say that Lebron is more hated, but that seems like a dumb argument.
No Kobe isnt in goat convo because he isnt even best player at his own position
Goat 🐐Jordan best SG ever easily
As long as Micheal Jordan exist Kobe will always be in his shadow
Kobe isnt even best player in his own franchise.
Both Kareem and Magic better players than Kobe
If a name should be brought up in goat convo its Kareem
Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg most missed shots in nba history and 3x sidekick isnt top 9 all time player
Jordan, Kareem, LeBron, Chamberlain, Magic, Bird, Hakeem, Shaq, Duncan all better players than Kobe
@@kendranights7607 good points. You left out a few other greats. Pete maravich, bob cousy, stephen curry, jerry west, steve nash
Maybe because he clone Jordan's moves..
Shaq is so awesome to remind everyone and the media that Kobe should never be out of the conversation of GOAT. Way to have Jellybean's back there the Most Dominant.
Kobe lost 2 times in the Finals. He shot below 40% in the 2004 Finals. He led his team to a 39 point lost in Game 6 of the 2008 Finals. Kobe has 1 MVP in 20 seasons. In the seasons after Shaq, the Kobe-led Lakers lost in the 1st Round or missed the Playoffs completely 7 times. Finally, the historically great Lakers had their worst losing seasons with Kobe on the team. He’s Top 10, but not the GOAT.
@@kabtown5631 lebron has lost 6 times in the finals.
while playing in a terrible, terrible eastern conference for most his career.
Okay but I don’t think LeBron is the GOAT either. Please prove to me that Kobe is. Thank you
No Kobe isnt in goat convo because he isnt even best player at his own position
Goat 🐐Jordan best SG ever easily
As long as Micheal Jordan exist Kobe will always be in his shadow
Kobe isnt even best player in his own franchise.
Both Kareem and Magic better players than Kobe
If a name should be brought up in goat convo its Kareem
Kobe wasnt even best player on Lakers 3peat in 2000, 2001, 2002 Shaq 3 finals mvps was
First Ring
Kobe 15.6 ppg and 36.7% fg and 20% 3pt
Carried by
Shaq 38 ppg and 61% fg and 16 rpg
Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg most missed shots in nba history and 3x sidekick isnt top 9 all time player
Jordan, Kareem, LeBron, Chamberlain, Magic, Bird, Hakeem, Shaq, Duncan all better players than Kobe
Kobe is 100% in the conversation from 03 to about 2010 best player on the planet top 3 scorer of all time some of the craziest scoring performance of all time multiple rings and finals MVP
FACTS
how tf is he in the conversation if he has only 2/5 FMVP and lower FG%?
Kobe lost 2 times in the Finals. He shot below 40% in the 2004 Finals. He led his team to a 39 point lost in Game 6 of the 2008 Finals. Kobe has 1 MVP in 20 seasons. In the seasons after Shaq, the Kobe-led Lakers lost in the 1st Round or missed the Playoffs completely 7 times. Finally, the historically great Lakers had their worst losing seasons with Kobe on the team. He’s Top 10, but not the GOAT.
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Jordan 6 Finals Mvps best player on all 6 Rings in 15 Seasons
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Kobe 2 Finals Mvps best player only on 2 rings in 20 Seasons
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🐐 Jordan 6 Rings without ever needing a top 10 all time player like Prime Superstar Shaq O'Neal
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First Ring
Kobe 15.6 ppg and 36.7% fg
Carried by
Shaq 38 ppg and 61% fg
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First Ring
Jordan 31.2 ppg and 11.4 apg and 6.6 rpg and 55.8% fg
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Phil Jackson even says in his Book that Jordan better player then Kobe
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Phil Jackson coach both players
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Goat 🐐 Jordan >> Copycat Kobe
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Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg most missed shots in nba histoty isnt even top 9 all time player 😂😂
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Jordan, LeBron, Chamberlain, Magic, Bird, Russell, Shaq, Duncan all better players than Kobe
@@kabtown5631 no context at all
Idk how people can think Lebron is better thank Kobe that’s mad disrespectful
Robert Owens
2010 NBA Finals
Game 7
Lakers 83 Celtics 79
Kobe Bryant 6-24 fg and 0-6 3pt for 23 points
2013 NBA Finals
Game 7
Heat 95 Spurs 88
LeBron James 12-23 fg and 5-10 3pt for 37 points
Game winning playoff buzzer beaters
LeBron 5 > Kobe 1
Kobe vs LeBron
PPG: LeBron
RPG: LeBron
APG: LeBron
SPG: LeBron
BPG: LeBron
FG%: LeBron
3PT%: LeBron
FT%: Kobe
TS%: LeBron
WS: LeBron
PER: LeBron
MVP's: LeBron
FMVP's: LeBron
Rings: Kobe (Best player on 2)
LeBron better player then Kobe
Seasons avg +25 ppg
LeBron 14 > Kobe 12
Seasons avg +25 ppg on +50% fg
LeBron 8 > Kobe 0
Seasons shooting +40% 3pt
LeBron 1 > Kobe 0
Triple Doubles
LeBron 74 > Kobe 21
Career +30 point games scoring
LeBron 436 > Kobe 431
Career highs scoring
Kobe Bryant 28-46 fg and 7-13 3pt for 81 points vs Raptors 27-55 record
LeBron James 22-33 fg and 8-10 3pt for 61 points vs Bobcats 43-39 record
Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg most missed shots in nba history isn't top 8 all time player
NBA top ten all time players
1. Michael Jordan
2. LeBron James
3. Kareem Abdul-Jabber
4. Wilt Chamberlain
5. Magic Johnson
6. Larry Bird
7. Shaquille O'Neal
8. Tim Duncan
9. Kobe Bryant
10. Hakeem Olajuwon
TheBestFighter
2010 NBA Finals
Game 7
Lakers 83 Celtics 79
Kobe Bryant 6-24 fg and 0-6 3pt for 23 points
2013 NBA Finals
Game 7
Heat 95 Spurs 88
LeBron James 12-23 fg and 5-10 3pt for 37 points
Game winning playoff buzzer beaters
LeBron 5 > Kobe 1
Kobe vs LeBron
PPG: LeBron
RPG: LeBron
APG: LeBron
SPG: LeBron
BPG: LeBron
FG%: LeBron
3PT%: LeBron
FT%: Kobe
TS%: LeBron
WS: LeBron
PER: LeBron
MVP's: LeBron
FMVP's: LeBron
Rings: Kobe (Best player on 2)
LeBron better player then Kobe
Seasons avg +25 ppg
LeBron 14 > Kobe 12
Seasons avg +25 ppg on +50% fg
LeBron 8 > Kobe 0
Seasons shooting +40% 3pt
LeBron 1 > Kobe 0
Triple Doubles
LeBron 74 > Kobe 21
Career +30 point games scoring
LeBron 436 > Kobe 431
Career highs scoring
Kobe Bryant 28-46 fg and 7-13 3pt for 81 points vs Raptors 27-55 record
LeBron James 22-33 fg and 8-10 3pt for 61 points vs Bobcats 43-39 record
Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg most missed shots in nba history isn't top 8 all time player
NBA top ten all time players
1. Michael Jordan
2. LeBron James
3. Kareem Abdul-Jabber
4. Wilt Chamberlain
5. Magic Johnson
6. Larry Bird
7. Shaquille O'Neal
8. Tim Duncan
9. Kobe Bryant
10. Hakeem Olajuwon
The same way, Kobe fans act like he's better than MJ. THAT is mad disrespectful. Beside, I don't know why people compare Kobe and LeBron in the first place. They don't even play alike.
TLJthethird because Kobe can do anything MJ can do with a better jump shot
@@Roxburysfinest Kobe could shoot 50 percent from the field, average the most points per game in NBA history, win 6 titles, win DPOY the same year he won MVP, get MVP 5 times, FMVP 6 times and 10 scoring titles? Then why didn't he?
Shaq spitting facts. Why does LeBron jump Kobe for no reason?
Kobe Bryant has 1 MVP, is that a GOAT? lmao
Kobe had 6 60 point games in his career and LeBron 1. Kobe 4 50s in a row LeBron never even had 2 back to back
@@quirinogarza7381 The funny thing is Kobe is a score first player and Lebron is not. Scoring is what Kobe is best at. But Lebron STILL averaged more points in the regular season and playoffs. Kobe could get as hot as anyone, but when he was off his game, he was really off his game and would still keep shooting lol. Don't be an idiot. I know Kobe fans hate Lebron, but Lebron is clearly the better player.
Jordan is way better then both
@@ben1ben2ben1 Kobe wasn't a pass first person either, but still managed to be the first in NBA history to 30K points and 6,000 assists... And had scoring days LeBron can only dream of
@@quirinogarza7381 He also averaged less points in both the playoffs and the regular season. Kobe had amazing regular season scoring days (mixed in with some really off ones) but Lebron has more 30 point games, 40 point games and 50 point games in the playoffs where it matters most. Lebron also reached 20k and 30k points and 6000k assists faster then Kobe.
What people forget is almost all of Kobe's big scoring games happened in the regular season. Same with all his clutch plays. Lebron has FAR more big performances in the playoffs when it actually matters
And Jordan was way better then both
The media robbed Kobe of like 4 mvps
I say the same thing
Ask people 9/10
Kobe>Lebron
So why isn't it Kobe vs MJ
hahahahaha kobrick ? the least efficient player ever?
@@lenoe234 Kobe is taking shots Lebron could only dream of hitting. Kobe played the game to win not be efficient. Thats the problem with Lebron hes too passive and not enough of a killer.
because most people already put MJ above KOBE. so the next "new" topic is lebron. kobe > lebron though all day
Any fool can see Kobe is way better then lebron especially when it comes to winning with less talent when Kobe won back to back he had no other superstar plus he played with a bum knee and a broken finger on his shooting hand 🤷🏿♂️
@@SuperReviews4you you win the game by being efficient not by putting up bricks like kobrick. although it does work for him because he always had big men like shaq or gasol and Bynum to rebound his bricks and put them back in.
I like Shaq. He's not a hater when he easily could be.
Because Shaq himself knew that Kobe was the better half of his 3FMVPs. That dude averaged 33 7 7 while shooting 50% on the 2001 WCF and averaged 30ppg over the whole playoffs and still called “carried”. Ofc nobody can guard Shaq on the east, who they got? Keith Van Horn, the Old guy Mutumbo, and Rik Smits? Hence he got all the awards which were very technical.
Tell em
How did Kobe need Shaq when Shaq was ringless from 1992-2000? He had Kobe from 1996-2000, so it seems like to me, Shaq needed prime Kobe as well.
@@tmac731 Media and Bronexuals who most of them never watched Kobe on the other hand... I feel like the new NBA fan base are all brainwashed as they only care about stats and what media tells them
That’s what i’ve always been saying. Kobe was killing the Spurs each year when the twin towers were limiting Shaq.
What?? Kobe's great and all..but kobe was the better in half of the 3fmvp?????????clearly u didn't watch any of those series,and if u did,u would have known lakers lost in 2004 bcz of kobe
Basically Kobe Bryant is in a category of his own, and it should be like this what did Kobe do and bring to the game that mj didn't, mj said it himself no one can really mess with Kobe one on one.....and in this time and age no one other than Kobe is the closest thing to mj.....James is a really good player.
I agree with you 100% on that. I was a big Michael Jordan fan and when he retired I kind of stopped watching the NBA because I adored his moves so much and I emulated them myself but after someone told me you need to check out Kobe he's just like Mike!! I started watching Kobe and it was almost like I was watching Michael all over again he has all of his moves. That mental Competitive Edge that he has is relentless!!
@@anthonyminggia1105 Right on.....Kobe's legend is set in stone, can't nobody really touch it.
Anthony Minggia exactly. I hate the argument that he copied him. MJ copied D. Thompson and Big O then lol.
@MrSteven1981ish
"what did Kobe do and bring to the game that mj didn't, mj said it himself"
???? What?!!
For me the reason why lebron is doing so well cause he doesn't have competition. During kobe and Mj their era was thick. You could smell the competition in the air
LeBron is always overrated. Kobe is always underrated.
Kobe not in goat convo even a little bit
Kobe not even best player ever at his own position
Goat 🐐Jordan best SG ever
As long as Micheal Jordan exist yo hero Kobe Bryant will always be in his shadow
I dont even have to bring LeBron up 😂
Kobe not even best player ever in his own franchise
Kareem and Magic better than Kobe
Why does Kareem name get skipped over and Kobe name brought up 😂😂
Kareem best player ever at his position Center
Kareem more nba titles, league mvps, points, fgs, rebounds then Kobe 😂😂
Kobe wasnt even best player on his first 3 titles
Shaquille O'Neal 3 finals mvps best player on Lakers 3peat and Kobe Bryant side
First ring
Kobe 15.6 ppg and 36.7% fg and 20% 3pt
Carried by
Shaq 38 ppg and 61% fg and 16 rpg
I will take Duncan over Kobe
Finals mvps
Duncan 3✔
Kobe 2
League mvps
Duncan 2✔
Kobe 1
FG%
Duncan 50.6%✔
Kobe 44.7%
Kobe 6 times led nba in missed shots
Kobe 2 times led nba in scoring
Kobe led nba in missed shots more than he led nba in scoring 😭😭
Kobe most overrated player
Duncan most underrated
How is a man from 15yrs old was considered to b the next greatest and literally grew into that and held that crown since like on the slim chance KD is now beta or james not pass Jordan he still than held the league during a kobe 24 era and after into these new guys tryna make they own era Lebron name always been at the top Kobe does get disrespected but Lebron is no where near overrated yall just bandwagon haters
@@jasonstones8683 damn y u go at Kobe like that 😭😭😆😆🤦🏾♂️
Overrated with 3 rings..3 finals mvp(2 more than kobe)....4 season MVP(3 more than kobe)..will end up with more total points more assists and more rebounds and blocks than kobe..more playoff wins..more points in the playoffs than kobe..more steals...more 3s made..more EVERYTHING BUT u saying lebron is overall? Haters and idiots will never see greatness u idiots r to blind to see....lmaoooo if u dont get it read my comment 5 times maybe u finally will get why lebron better than kobe....ohhhh by the way lebron is like 16-6 when facing kove head to head....what else u want?...maybe u need a brain surgery to get it..geeeezzzzz people r soooo freakin dumb
@@platano3000x LeBron is a bad shooter facts
Anytime somebody asks why isn’t Kobe‘s name mentioned LOL please look at the media personality faces because they have no idea what to say. It’s literally because you can see the bias on their face or the fact that they’re paid to literally shove LeBron down everyone’s throat. I love LeBron James he’s one of my favorite players right now and one of the greatest but it’s really disrespectful to let him just eclipse Kobe like oh he didn’t do anything. Lebron is not even done yet. It would be more fair to have a discussion like this once he’s done. And now that he’s in the Western Conference I would really love to see if he can cakewalk his way to the finals this time.
Superman Dat they not going playoffs bro
KOEreactz this year? Yeah prob not but we’ll see
FACTS
@@dl6kid
2010 NBA Finals
Game 7
Lakers 83 Celtics 79
Kobe Bryant 6-24 fg and 0-6 3pt for 23 points
2013 NBA Finals
Game 7
Heat 95 Spurs 88
LeBron James 12-23 fg and 5-10 3pt for 37 points
Game winning playoff buzzer beaters
LeBron 5 > Kobe 1
Kobe vs LeBron
PPG: LeBron
RPG: LeBron
APG: LeBron
SPG: LeBron
BPG: LeBron
FG%: LeBron
3PT%: LeBron
FT%: Kobe
TS%: LeBron
WS: LeBron
PER: LeBron
MVP's: LeBron
FMVP's: LeBron
Rings: Kobe (Best player on 2)
LeBron better player then Kobe
Seasons avg +25 ppg
LeBron 14 > Kobe 12
Seasons avg +25 ppg on +50% fg
LeBron 8 > Kobe 0
Seasons shooting +40% 3pt
LeBron 1 > Kobe 0
Triple Doubles
LeBron 74 > Kobe 21
Career +30 point games scoring
LeBron 436 > Kobe 431
Career highs scoring
Kobe Bryant 28-46 fg and 7-13 3pt for 81 points vs Raptors 27-55 record
LeBron James 22-33 fg and 8-10 3pt for 61 points vs Bobcats 43-39 record
Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg most missed shots in nba history isn't top 8 all time player
NBA top ten all time players
1. Michael Jordan
2. LeBron James
3. Kareem Abdul-Jabber
4. Wilt Chamberlain
5. Magic Johnson
6. Larry Bird
7. Shaquille O'Neal
8. Tim Duncan
9. Kobe Bryant
10. Hakeem Olajuwon
2008 season January 27
Cavs 98 Lakers 95
LeBron 41 points
Outplayed
Kobe 33 points
LeBron James hit shot in Kobe Bryant face to ice game
2010 Season December 25
Heat 96 Lakers 80
LeBron 8-14 fg and 5-6 3pt for 27 points an triple double
Outplayed
Kobe 6-16 fg and 1-3 3pt for 17 points
2013 January 17
LeBron 17-25 fg for 39 points
Outplayed
Kobe 8-25 fg for 22 points
In this game
LeBron 25 shots 17 makes
Kobe 25 shots 17 missed
Stats in career meetings
LeBron 28 ppg and 47% fg
Kobe 24 ppg and 42%
If Kobe Bryant could stop LeBron James he would have guarded him whole game
LeBron James 16-6 owns Kobe Bryant ass in 22 career meetings
LeBron James outplayed Kobe Bryant in they meetings
Where was Kobe Bryant defense at he could not stop LeBron James from killing Lakers
Jerry Dames Nah
LeBron couldn't see Kobe in his prime. People have forgotten how good Fro-be was. Honestly, I think LeBron would've had a hard time seeing TMac.
Prime Kobrick Bryant blew a 3-1 lead to Suns and lost 4-3 in 2006 😂
Deshawn Allen prime lebron got swept in the finals 😂
5Fifths how would t Mac give me problems he couldn’t even beat the bucks he never passed the first rounds 😂
@@deshawnallen1153 Last time I checked Nash has zero rings.
@@shomoy7396
Kobe 3 times swept more then LeBron 2 times
Kobe and MJ played defense enough said.
Yessir
LeBron does play defence in different ways, although nowhere near as good as Jordan or Kobe
@@oliverdennis3115 by stepping aside
@@eurickhidalgo9423 Lebron doesn’t play defense anymore to conserve for offense is the biggest BS I have ever heard think about it he is your goat that is honestly the most idiotic thing Kobe literally tore his Achilles carrying the trash lakers and he played defense till he retired cmon man you know that’s bullcrap how old are you anyway 12?
@@eurickhidalgo9423 I never said he wasn’t a top player today
Kobe never cheated the game. Only wanted to win , meanwhile lebron is purposely trying to pad stats and flops. He’s out against a competitive team the warriors today due to “load management “
the refs helped Kobe cheat vs the kings in 2002.
imsljr420 WTF R U TALKING ABOUT
KOBE DA GOAT
imsljr420 sidekick what do u mean Shaq said if it wasn’t for Kobe they would of never won the 3peat
@@lightingwarr02 lol if it wasn't for any 2nd guy of a championship that team wouldn't win. if it wasn't for pippen, if it wasn't for gasol, wade, Irving, drexler, etc their teams wouldn't win. so ofcourse Kobe helped but he was still the sidekick.
@@imsljr420 U mean 2002
Yass Shaq Kobe Need too be in that GOAT Conversation too Cuz Of What he Bring In The NBA
The most dominant Big Man of all time came to camp out of shape because he knew he had Kobe! Name any great who could afford to do that?!...exactly.
How fitting, kobe and tmac interview qued next. Watch that and realize just how different basketball was.
Shaq dropping some FACTS
If you don’t love Shaq, you don’t know what love is.
NOT Bill Walton's Clone
Its so damn true bro
Ima just say this jordan has two three peats Kobe has one three peat and a back to back with an roster of him being the only superstar 09/10 lakers lebron has a back to back with Dwayne wade,Chris Bosh, Ray Allen a heat team where he was teaming with another superstar 🤷🏿♂️
JordanForeverGoat 🐐 you give Kobe, Dwade and Bosh they winning 4 in a row
Edgar Sarmiento exactly
In the 2014 finals LBJ averaged 28 and the second best scorer on his team (Wade) averaged about 13 or 14 points. Kobe's supporting cast never failed him that much. Especially rebounding.
Maaziah Powell y’all lebron fans love telling half the truth smh what did wade average in 2011?? Lebron didn’t even average 20 points that finals wait I forgot y’all like to try to erase history smh what about 2012 finals what did wade average?? Y’all lebron fans love to paint this narrative like lebron just did it all by himself every year which is false if you gonna tell the truth tell all of it not half 🤦🏿♂️
In 2009/2010 nba finals nobody on that lakers team averaged over 19 points but Kobe he won back to back championships with way less help then lebron and he didn’t have no superstars or a hall of fame three point shooter but lebron did 🤷🏿♂️
Ps 2010 finals Kobe was injured had a bad knee and a broken finger on his shooting hand and still led the team 😂😂😂
@@mobilegoon10 thanks for your insight. This is all subjective, but I am a basketball fan. Your paragraph was pointless in my opinion, seems hostile honestly. I respect both LeBron and Kobe. Honestly I do have LeBron over Kobe in MY BOOK but I do not get pissed off about other people having Kobe over LeBron. I respect other people's opinions. I overstand that it's rightfully so, Kobe deserves it, just as long as they put LeBron next in line or possibly even Larry Legend. My point is, I never came at Kobe, I stated a fact. Blessed day to you my Brother 💯
Thank you shaq!! How you gonna skip over kobe
JESUS MARTINEZ
2010 NBA Finals
Game 7
Lakers 83 Celtics 79
Kobe Bryant 6-24 fg and 0-6 3pt for 23 points
2013 NBA Finals
Game 7
Heat 95 Spurs 88
LeBron James 12-23 fg and 5-10 3pt for 37 points
Game winning playoff buzzer beaters
LeBron 5 > Kobe 1
Kobe vs LeBron
PPG: LeBron
RPG: LeBron
APG: LeBron
SPG: LeBron
BPG: LeBron
FG%: LeBron
3PT%: LeBron
FT%: Kobe
TS%: LeBron
WS: LeBron
PER: LeBron
MVP's: LeBron
FMVP's: LeBron
Rings: Kobe (Best player on 2)
LeBron better player then Kobe
Seasons avg +25 ppg
LeBron 14 > Kobe 12
Seasons avg +25 ppg on +50% fg
LeBron 8 > Kobe 0
Seasons shooting +40% 3pt
LeBron 1 > Kobe 0
Triple Doubles
LeBron 74 > Kobe 21
Career +30 point games scoring
LeBron 436 > Kobe 431
Career highs scoring
Kobe Bryant 28-46 fg and 7-13 3pt for 81 points vs Raptors 27-55 record
LeBron James 22-33 fg and 8-10 3pt for 61 points vs Bobcats 43-39 record
Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg most missed shots in nba history isn't top 8 all time player
NBA top ten all time players
1. Michael Jordan
2. LeBron James
3. Kareem Abdul-Jabber
4. Wilt Chamberlain
5. Magic Johnson
6. Larry Bird
7. Shaquille O'Neal
8. Tim Duncan
9. Kobe Bryant
10. Hakeem Olajuwon
@@htownboy4676 you got way too much time on your hands to post all of that. Lebron has stats like that because there is no defense in the league anymore plain and simple. I come from the jordan era so he's my #1 no doubt. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, that's just mine. Lebron is good no doubt but he's not the goat.
JESUS MARTINEZ lebron fan boys have stats without context... for some reason him dribbling the ball for a hour on top of the key until a shooter gets open and makes a simple ass pass anybody else can make , and a uncontested rebound is more important than actually playingg defense which we all know lebron rarely plays. And lebron mostly gets his points off of picks so he can get a mismatch on a slow center or a small guard. Thwse ppl watch stat sheets not the games
H Town Boy Kobes stats for that game 7 looks bad because he was getting fouled on every shot lol. He had 15 free throws 😂 let me guess, you didn’t actually watch the game did you and you just want to hate on Kobe for no reason in particular?
@@htownboy4676 Eastern conference was weak. Lebron had more help. Lebron lost in the finals 6 times. Kobe makes the team lebron recruits stars. Kobe plays through injury lebron sit out of games uninjured. Kobe picks up the best scorer. Lebron runs away from defense. Kobe stays with the team LeBron switches teams to find more stars to play with. Here are some fun facts for you to think about
For once I agree with Shaq on something. People keep saying Shaq carried Kobe. Shaq was a very dominant player but to say he carried him isn't exactly accurate. Kobe went on to be one of the greatest players of all-time. I don't put him over Jordan or Lebron but involving him in that conversation does make a lot of sense to me because of his skillset and what he was able to accomplish.
"isn't exactly accurate" is the same thing as saying "yes he was carried" although termed in a disguised sentence. To say then that he was carried is totally false because at the end of the day, without Kobe, Shaq wouldn't have won any of those championships. Case in point... When he was with Orlando he played with Penny Hardaway, Kobe-like player with a better passing game. How many championships did they have? ZERO. So the reality is that neither Kobe nor Shaq carried each other. But rather, each was the missing part to their dynasty.
Now for you say that Kobe isn't greater than Lebron, well that's your fanboy opinion. But whatever criteria you have to try to actualize that argument still can't get over the huge fact that 6 beats 5, 5 beats 3. More importantly, 6 out of 6 is 100%, 5 out of 7 is 71%, while 3 out of 8 is a measly 38%. And unless there has be a HUGE HUGE DEPARTURE from what the game of basketball is, then those championships are the ultimate goal
@@dominoslays4286 you're comment is hilarious to me. I ain't a Lebron fanboy. Kobe and Jordan have been by far my favorite players for years. Winning chips involves a players contribution of course but its a team win. If it was based on championships alone Horry, Russell and Havlicek and a few others would be considered better than Jordan. I like Lebron but I'm not huge fan of him but I can't argue with his stats or his skills. He is a more efficient player offensively than Kobe was. Secondly, me saying "it isn't exactly" accurate isn't the same as saying Shaq carried him. That wasn't what I was trying to say, that's how you interpreted it. They both carried their weight. Shaq and Kobe's scoring was almost identical the last two years. In order to "carry" someone the other person can't be pulling their own weight or equal weight. Even Shaq said he needed him. They both went on to win championships afterwards so that argument from anyone is just ridiculous.
@@dominoslays4286
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Pippen 6 rings > Kobe 5 rings 😂
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If having more team award rings and better team finals record means better player than Pippen better than Kobe
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Rings = Team Award
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Finals Record = Team Record
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Mavs 4-0 swept Kobe ass to stop him from 6 rings in 2011 playoffs guess that doesnt count since it wasnt a nba finals lost
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Finals Mvps at 3 rings
Jordan 3
LeBron 3
Duncan 3
Shaq 3
Kobe 0 😂😂😂😂😂
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First Ring
Kobe 15.6 ppg and 36.7% fg
Carried by
Shaq 38 ppg and 61% fg 😂
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Shaq O'Neal 3 finals mvps best player on Lakers 3peat and Kobe Bryant sidekick😂
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LeBron James averages more points, rebounds, assists, steals, blocks and a higher fg%, 3pt% then Kobe Bryant. So it's pretty clear LeBron the better player 😂
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League Mvps
LeBron 4 > Kobe 1
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Finals Mvps
LeBron 3 > Kobe 2
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LeBron 3 times best player on his teams titles
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Kobe 2 times was best player on his teams titles
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Both Jordan and LeBron finals mvps and best player for all they titles unlike Kobe 😂
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Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg most missed shots in nba history and 3x sidekick aint top 9 all time player
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Jordan, Kareem, LeBron, Magic, Wilt, Russell, Bird, Shaq, Duncan better than Kobe
Now, this is the evidence of the greatness of both Kobe and Shaq. The two of them clashed heads like battering rams at one point and yet, the mutual respect was obviously never lost
Everything Shaq said in the interview was on point
The media hates Kobe that's why they're not mentioning him..such disrespect..ask the players though and they will mention Kobe.. I'd rather believe the players because they know better than these stupid media people.
2010 NBA Finals
Game 7
Lakers 83 Celtics 79
Kobe Bryant 6-24 fg and 0-6 3pt for 23 points
2013 NBA Finals
Game 7
Heat 95 Spurs 88
LeBron James 12-23 fg and 5-10 3pt for 37 points
Game winning playoff buzzer beaters
LeBron 5 > Kobe 1
Kobe vs LeBron
PPG: LeBron
RPG: LeBron
APG: LeBron
SPG: LeBron
BPG: LeBron
FG%: LeBron
3PT%: LeBron
FT%: Kobe
TS%: LeBron
WS: LeBron
PER: LeBron
MVP's: LeBron
FMVP's: LeBron
Rings: Kobe (Best player on 2)
LeBron better player then Kobe
Seasons avg +25 ppg
LeBron 14 > Kobe 12
Seasons avg +25 ppg on +50% fg
LeBron 8 > Kobe 0
Seasons shooting +40% 3pt
LeBron 1 > Kobe 0
Triple Doubles
LeBron 74 > Kobe 21
Career +30 point games scoring
LeBron 436 > Kobe 431
Career highs scoring
Kobe Bryant 28-46 fg and 7-13 3pt for 81 points vs Raptors 27-55 record
LeBron James 22-33 fg and 8-10 3pt for 61 points vs Bobcats 43-39 record
Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg most missed shots in nba history isn't top 8 all time player
NBA top ten all time players
1. Michael Jordan
2. LeBron James
3. Kareem Abdul-Jabber
4. Wilt Chamberlain
5. Magic Johnson
6. Larry Bird
7. Shaquille O'Neal
8. Tim Duncan
9. Kobe Bryant
10. Hakeem Olajuwon
2008 season January 27
Cavs 98 Lakers 95
LeBron 41 points
Outplayed
Kobe 33 points
LeBron James hit shot in Kobe Bryant face to ice game
2010 Season December 25
Heat 96 Lakers 80
LeBron 8-14 fg and 5-6 3pt for 27 points an triple double
Outplayed
Kobe 6-16 fg and 1-3 3pt for 17 points
2013 January 17
LeBron 17-25 fg for 39 points
Outplayed
Kobe 8-25 fg for 22 points
In this game
LeBron 25 shots 17 makes
Kobe 25 shots 17 missed
Stats in career meetings
LeBron 28 ppg and 47% fg
Kobe 24 ppg and 42%
If Kobe Bryant could stop LeBron James he would have guarded him whole game
LeBron James 16-6 owns Kobe Bryant ass in 22 career meetings
LeBron James outplayed Kobe Bryant in they meetings
Where was Kobe Bryant defense at he could not stop LeBron James from killing Lakers
@@kentkitchens6150 LeBron fanboys cut and paste each other comments. LeBron is not even greatest small forward ever Larry Bird is. Bird played against 8 hall of fame small forwards in his era. So before LeHype Shames can be compared to Kobe, understand he's not better than Larry Bird.
@@kentkitchens6150 wth??? I don't care about your stats! All I care about is 5 will always be greater than 3..now take that!
@@kentkitchens6150 lmao and still more loses in the finals than Kobe how sad.
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Pippen 6 rings > Kobe 5 rings 😂
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If having more team award rings and better team finals record means better player than Pippen better than Kobe
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Rings = Team Award
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Mavs 4-0 swept Kobe ass to stop him from 6 rings in 2011 playoffs guess that doesnt count since it wasnt a nba finals lost
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Finals Mvps at 3 rings
Jordan 3
LeBron 3
Duncan 3
Shaq 3
Kobe 0 😂😂😂😂😂
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First Ring
Kobe 15.6 ppg and 36.7% fg
Carried by
Shaq 38 ppg and 61% fg 😂
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Shaq O'Neal 3 finals mvps best player on Lakers 3peat and Kobe Bryant sidekick😂
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LeBron James averages more points, rebounds, assists, steals, blocks and a higher fg%, 3pt% then Kobe Bryant. So it's pretty clear LeBron the better player 😂
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League Mvps
LeBron 4 > Kobe 1
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Finals Mvps
LeBron 3 > Kobe 2
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LeBron 3 times best player on his teams titles
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Kobe 2 times was best player on his teams titles
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Both Jordan and LeBron finals mvps and best player for all they titles unlike Kobe 😂
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Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg most missed shots in nba history and 3x sidekick aint top 9 all time player
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Jordan, Kareem, LeBron, Magic, Wilt, Russell, Bird, Shaq, Duncan better than Kobe
My top 5:
1. Michael Jordan
2. Kobe Bryant
3. Magic Johnson
4. Larry Bird
5. Kareem Abdul Jabbar
Tim Duncan I put at number 6 for now, and if Lebron were to retire having accomplished all he has without winning a few more championships, he’d be number 3 behind Jordan, and Kobe.
🤔hmm...Thats a great list. We have the same top 5 if LeBron were to retire right now, only thing I ever think about is if we're showing enough love to the big men, you know the Shaq's, Hakeems's, Kareem's, Russell's, Wilt's, etc
KBrown2480 It’s funny you mention Shaq, because when it comes to the center position, I put him at number 2 behind Kareem. This is my list
1.Kareem
2.Shaq
3.Wilt
4.Hakeem
5.Russell
@@darrylwallace2428 oh yeah, spot on. I mean last three can be argued only because it's like Championships vs Skill vs Dominance. But most definitely those are the top 5
LMFAOOOOO
That's a nice list. Imma go
1) Jordan
2) Kareem
3) Kobe
4) Magic
5) Shaq or Hakeem 🤔
Just the way Shaq said it made me smile so damn hard. Kobe was my era, my goat.
People gotta think, as bad as it was between kobe and shaq during 03-04, now look how close they are. Shaq’s a real friend
Kobe Bryant fell from grace media wise with the rape allegations, even tho during that stretch and after he played some of the most impressive basketaball imaginable. But remember he was suddenly a villain, lost all those endorsements. But real ballers, the legends, arguable GOATs, just watching the game its hard to believe Kobe gets left out of these converstations.
No Kobe isnt in goat convo because he isnt even best player at his own position
Goat 🐐Jordan best SG ever easily
As long as Micheal Jordan exist Kobe will always be in his shadow
Kobe isnt even best player in his own franchise.
Both Kareem and Magic better players than Kobe
If a name should be brought up in goat convo its Kareem
Kobe wasnt even best player on Lakers 3peat in 2000, 2001, 2002 Shaq 3 finals mvps was
First Ring
Kobe 15.6 ppg and 36.7% fg and 20% 3pt
Carried by
Shaq 38 ppg and 61% fg and 16 rpg
Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg most missed shots in nba history and 3x sidekick isnt top 9 all time player
Jordan, Kareem, LeBron, Chamberlain, Magic, Bird, Hakeem, Shaq, Duncan all better players than Kobe
Say it bro that's what I said. He had that dark cloud over his career that he'd never shake.
@@deemix2142 stop copying and pasting this, nobody cares
@@CamJames
I care and he laid facts down Kobe aint in goat convo even a little😂
@@deemix2142 81 points in come from behind win. Second highest in any position , even Jordan's. 60 on retirement day, in come from behind win. Stats are not emotional and stats don't lie.
Some people really just love to throw disrespect when talking about Kobe, I mean yall do realize he very possibly could've went down as the greatest ever if not for the torn Achilles tendon injury...And that's just the biggest of dozens that he had in his career only because he wasn't blessed with the actual physical gift MJ was and more so Lebron, making his feat even more impressive to me that he had to rely mostly on hard work, dedication and acquired skill rather than gifted skills
Kobe's got ruptured on his tendon achilles, not ACL tho. And its way worse especially on older athtlete. But i agree of what youve said
@@farhadzuhdi5396 Oh my bad man, just tryna go off the memory tbh and messed up, but yeah further proves my point
KBrown2480 I love Kobe but what gifts did MJ have that Kobe didn’t? Besides Big hands. MJ worked his ass off to be who he was. He had a ridiculous drive, ambition and will to win. Nobody talked him up and told him he was the next best whomever. MJ is just it! Change the game...made his own way. The most fundamentally sound with ridiculous athleticism in a player there ever will be. His skills were ridiculous. Kobe is next up to bat though as far as being ridiculously skilled, His handle is better than MJ’s too.Then T Mac is next. Lebron ain’t even in the discussion for top 20 players as far as being a skilled hooper. He’s just Big, Fast and plays in a horrible soft league. What moves does he have? His post game is awful, his footwork sucks, he stays walking. To me he was a better player when he was younger. He didn’t bully his way to the basket like he does now. He used to used more jumpers and drove to the basket with more skillful quick moves. Watch his games vs T Mac and the Pistons. Bron can play but he’s just media made freak above all the rest in this poop butt league🤣😂 Where’s the Defense at🤔
@@clintonwalters8993 okay we're basically on the same page, I think the way I worded my comment particularly the last sentence made u take what I was saying differently than intended. Ur talking about skills I was just trying to point out the "physical gifts" that MJ and more so LeBron were blessed with Kobe wasn't. Kobe and Jordan played the same kind of game but Jordan had broader shoulders and was just more naturally big than Kobe, leading to him being able to take more punishment and have less consequences throughout his career. In terms of gifts on the basketball court aka skills, ofc their mindset is what sets them apart from literally everyone EVER and they both worked ridiculously hard to get as good as they were. And as far as what u said about LeBron, I get y u would say that but, no hate, I think that being a great baller took a lot more than that, there was a guy more skilled than Jordan coming up, multiple of those guys for Kobe. Lebron's adapted to this soft ass league, and adapted his game also to fit himself. He may not be top 20 all time in terms of skilled ballers but all things counted for hes still highly skilled player(with an ugly kinda game tho😂) and probably the most all around player the league has ever seen
KBrown2480🤣His game is very ugly! I’m not hating on Lebron at all. He has to have some kind of skills to do what he’s doing but he’s not Skilled in the art of footwork and just plain out game if that make sense. Like Even Hakeem Olajuwon says MJ is far superior to Lebron. So how can he be before Kobe or any other player Skill wise. Lebron is gonna get his but is he better skillfully than KD, Harden, Kyrie, Prime D Wade? The list goes on.
THANK YOU, Shaq. Put sol respect on Kobe’s name!
I miss him so fucking much man...
Thank u Shaq for saying this.... finally some respect towards kobe
2:30-2:34
I worked hard enough to be DOMINANT ... but I didn't work hard enough to be THE BEST.
Shaquille literally confirmed what Kobe knew the ENTIRE time they were together in Los Angeles.
Idk if this is weird but i love listening to Shaq talking, it’s soo calming
I kinda feel like the NBA, specifically David Stern kinda ruined the backend of Kobes career. Voiding that trade had many consequences in my opinion. The personalities really did not fit on that team, and Nash was too old to really be a factor or a definitive voice as a leader in the locker room. Cp3 replacing Nash gives the Lakers a much better player and leader at the time, allowing him to better manage the large personalities that existed, including his own. Kobe was basically doing what James harden is this season, which was carrying his team every single night, except he was older and the team wasn't as unified therefore wasnt really as good. Had he been able to relax a bit more and not put in 150% every night just for a win he probably would've played at a high level for the next 4-5 years at least, (just think about what he did after coming back from the injury), after all that I think they had the possibility of winning at least 2 or 3 more championships in that span b4 he retired, maybe an MVP, but that's pushing it, and I really feel he would've went down as the greatest ever if not a very close 1A, 1B battle with Mike
KBrown2480 facts 💯
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Jordan 6 Finals Mvps best player on all 6 Rings in 15 Seasons
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Kobe 2 Finals Mvps best player only on 2 rings in 20 Seasons
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🐐 Jordan 6 Rings without ever needing a top 10 all time player like Prime Superstar Shaq O'Neal
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First Ring
Kobe 15.6 ppg and 36.7% fg
Carried by
Shaq 38 ppg and 61% fg
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First Ring
Jordan 31.2 ppg and 11.4 apg and 6.6 rpg and 55.8% fg
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Phil Jackson even says in his Book that Jordan better player then Kobe
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Phil Jackson coach both players
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Goat 🐐 Jordan >> Copycat Kobe
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Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg most missed shots in nba histoty isnt even top 9 all time player 😂😂
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Jordan, LeBron, Chamberlain, Magic, Bird, Russell, Shaq, Duncan all better players than Kobe
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Jordan 6 Finals Mvps best player on all 6 Rings in 15 Seasons
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Kobe 2 Finals Mvps best player only on 2 rings in 20 Seasons
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🐐 Jordan 6 Rings without ever needing a top 10 all time player like Prime Superstar Shaq O'Neal
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First Ring
Kobe 15.6 ppg and 36.7% fg
Carried by
Shaq 38 ppg and 61% fg
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First Ring
Jordan 31.2 ppg and 11.4 apg and 6.6 rpg and 55.8% fg
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Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg most missed shots in nba histoty isnt even top 9 all time player 😂😂
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Jordan, LeBron, Chamberlain, Magic, Bird, Russell, Shaq, Duncan all better players than Kobe
@@drizzykendricks991 Forgot to mention while that Kobe was averaging 15 because he was injuried
@@sitntalkwitsiah2068 People always forget to mention that Jalen Rose undercut Kobe and took him out during that Finals... And then he averaged 30 ppg in the 01 playoffs.
2010 Lakers were first seed with 57 wins... 8th seed (forget who) had 50 wins which shows HOW HARD THE WEST WAS DURING KOBES TIME.... kobe hit 7 game winners that year.... nuff said
Shaq showing some rare humbleness.
Top 15 ever
1.jordan
2.kobe
3.kareem
4.wilt
5.russel
6.magic
7.bird
8.olajuwon
9.shaq
10.duncan
11.iverson
12.erving
13.jerry West
14.elgin baylor
15.lebron
Points Scored
Kareem 38,387✔ (1st all time)
Kobe 33,643
Field Goal%
Kareem 55.9%✔
Kobe 44.7%
Rings
Kareem 6✔
Kobe 5
League Mvps
Kareem 6✔ (most ever)
Kobe 1
All star games
Kareem 19✔ (most ever)
Kobe 18
Kareem better player then Kobe
NBA top 10 greatest players
1. Michael Jordan
2. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
3. LeBron James (could rise to 2nd)
4. Wilt Chamberlain
5. Magic Johnson
6. Larry Bird
7. Hakeem Olajuwon
8. Shaquille O'Neal
9. Tim Duncan
10. Kobe Bryant
Kobe 14,481 most missed shots all time
No way Kobe 2nd all time
I would to know the dope you on😂
Dare Blane my list is almost exactly like yours except Hakeem and kobe are switched and wilt and Magic are switched
RIP Kobe. I can't imagine shaq's feelings right now
Surprisingly well said by Shaq.
Well although Shaq always jokes around but deep down he is a great guy and he honestly opened out his heart in this interview. Well done Shaq
Amen! The media tries so hard to keep Kobe out of the G.O.A.T. conversation. Shaq is a real one for standing up.
MJ, Kobe , iverson are my top 3. Fawk, I’d pick Scotty and Ben Wallace over lebron too. No joke.
Kobe the only player in history to average 29 7 and 6 and people swear up and down he was carried 🤦🏽♂️ how sway ????
I love that discreet laughter at 1:06 in the background... Describes the surprise we all might have had just perfectly 😁
Amen! SHAQ
Media picks Lebron but players choose Kobe. 👀
Media hates Kobe... Plain and simple
Most overrated player in nba history
Not to mention Shaq and Hakeem the Dream. Man both those guys so dominant
Im happy he said it. Kobr is the most skilled basketball play I have ever seen. If he was never injury he would still be playing.
Even the host knows what Shaq says it's true and you can see that by looking at his face when Shaq asked him about Kobe,he says that you have a great point but he didn't mentioned him while he knows that Kobe is up there..The disrespect is real!
Kobe is like Hakeem and MJ combined. How is that not better compared to Bron who is Malone and *any fast point guard* combined.
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NBA Finals 2010
Game 7
Lakers 83 Celtics 79
Kobe Bryant 6-24 fg and 0-6 3pt for 23 points
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NBA Finals 2013
Game 7
Heat 95 Spurs 88
LeBron James 12-23 fg and 5-10 3pt for 37 points
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Game winning playoff buzzer beaters
LeBron 5 > Kobe 1
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Kobe vs LeBron
PPG: LeBron
RPG: LeBron
APG: LeBron
SPG: LeBron
BPG: LeBron
FG%: LeBron
3PT%: LeBron
FT%: Kobe
TS%: LeBron
WS: LeBrom
PER: LeBron
MVP's: LeBron
FMVP's: LeBron
Rings: Kobe (Best player on 2)
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LeBron better player then Kobe
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Seasons avg +25 ppg
LeBron 14 > Kobe 12
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Seasons avg +25 ppg on +50% fg
LeBron 8 > Kobe 0
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Seasons shooting +40% 3pt
LeBron 1 > Kobe 0
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Triple Doubles
LeBron 76 > Kobe 21
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Career +30 point games
LeBron 436 > Kobe 431
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Career highs
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Kobe Bryant 28-46 fg and 7-13 3pt for 81 points vs Raptors 27-55 record
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LeBron James 22-33 fg and 8-10 3pt for 61 points vs Bobcats 43-39 record
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First Ring
Kobe 15.6 ppg and 36.7% fg
Carried by
Shaq 38 ppg and 61% fg
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Shaq O'Neal 3 finals mvps was best player on Lakers 3peat and Kobe Bryant sidekick
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NBA top 10 best players
1. Michael Jordan
2. LeBron James
3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
4. Wilt Chamberlain
5. Magic Johnson
6. Larry Bird
7. Shaquille O'Neal
8. Tim Duncan
9. Kobe Bryant
10. Bill Russell
@@martinsmith7407 yeah sure but all these stats. But have you ever heard of players who played with and against both Kobe and Lebron that they would take Kobe over Bron. I mean, those guys have first hand experience playing with and against them. Jalen Rose, Jim Jackson, Kenyon Martin, Ron Artest to name a few.
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Paul Pierce said LeBron James better player than Kobe Bryant on Breakfast club morning show 😂😂
Paul Pierce has LeBron in his top 5 and doesnt have Kobe
Former nba player Baron Davis said LeBron better player than Kobe on Breakfast club morning show 😂
Hall of famer Jerry West who made trade for Kobe to come to Lakers even says LeBron better player😂😂😂
Hall of famer Juilius Erving says Jordan, Kareem, LeBron top 3 all times players
Steve Kerr 5 rings as a player with 3 more rings as coach says Jordan and LeBron 2 best players ever 😂😂
Carlos Boozer former teammate oh both says LeBron better than Kobe
Boozer top 3 Jordan, Kareem, Kobe
Nba players JJ Reddick and Jr Smith says LeBron best player ever 😂😂
Kobetards always have to run to biased opinion because the facts and stats say LeBron better player 😂😂😂
LeBron is Jordan athletic ability mixed with Magic passing in Malone body 😂
LeBron better player than Kobe
Regular season
PPG: LeBron
APG: LeBron
RPG: LeBron
BPG: LeBron
SPG: LeBron
FT%: Kobe
FG%: LeBron
3PT%: LeBron
PER: LeBron
WS: LeBron
BPM: LeBron
VORP: LeBron
MVPs: LeBron (should be more)
Playoffs
PPG: LeBron
APG: LeBron
RPG: LeBron
SPG: LeBron
BPG: LeBron
FT%: Kobe
FG%: LeBron
3PT%: LeBron
PER: LeBron
BPM: LeBron
VORP: LeBron
Rings: Kobe (best player on 2)
Finals MVPs: LeBron
Kobrick Bryant 44.7% fg worst out of any player that's scored over 30,000 points 😂😂😂
Dan Manes Paul pierce also agreed that Kobe was the most skilled player in NBA history
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Paul Pierce said LeBron top 5 all time player and he didnt have Kobe top 5 same with Jalen Rose 😂
i dont people realize how tough the western conference was back in the day PORTLAND, SACREMENTO, DALLAS, PHOENIX . the teams he had to go through to get 5 titles KOBE should be in the conversation as the GOAT
That god of war ring is dope haha
Hahaha
I'm not a Lebron Hater. But Lebron is a CHEATER like for real. Kobe didn't want any great players to come and play with him. KOBE just want to win with the players he got.
@TheBestFighter lol definitely
Yeah Kobe Bryant demanded a trade in 2007 from Lakers after Suns 4-1 beat his ass in first round saying he didnt have enough help 😂
Be real. Kobe almost left the Lakers twice over personnel issues. HUGE CREDIT for sticking it out, but I never heard Kobe complain when Kwame got upgraded to Pau. 😂😂😂
The last ring Kobe won, the lakers were clearly out matched...celtics had 4 allstars, rondo, kg, ray, pierce... somehow kobe and the Lakers found a way to win.
If u compare lebrons cavs vs kd gsw... it wasnt as big of a mismatch as that one, cuz lebron still had kyrie/love. Kobe didnt have someone like kyrie dropping 40.
But kobe won against the celtics when he should have lost.
And in 2011, lebrons superteam heat, lost when they should have won vs dirk n bunch of role players.
@@danmanes6817 yea and lebron went to espn and made an attention that i cant win i want to take my crab dribbling to southbeach. He even "travelled" his way there. Phenomenal footwork 😂
Shaq is the MOST DOMINANT big man to wver play. In his prime NO ONE could stop this guy. He was a nightmare for every team.
Very good explanation of dominant and best
Shaguille is the Man,
You heard it here folks. Shaq says Dr. J is the best, he’s for sure the best
To me dr. Is top 7 what he did for the game in a dead league and what he did in the aba was amazing. More than what lebron did.
Way to go Shaq! No hesitation in sticking up for your brother
Shaq is right, respect the legends for paving the way! Shout out Elgin Baylor, Oscar Robinson, Wilt Chamberlain, Bill Russell, Pete Maravich, Julius Erving, Nate Archibald, and Erving Johnson. Salute
Can't forget about Kareem Abdul Jabbar.
This is 1000% facts, like I know the media doesn't want him, the haters, don't want him but I find it ridiculous when hes not even mentioned up there with the greatest of all time. In terms of pure basketball skill LeBron is number 1, like there is just no debating the physical gifts he brings to the discussion, but when we're talking about the G.O.A.T its so much more than that
basketball skill and physical abilities are 2 very different things. Both MJ and Kobe are way more skillful than Bron ever will be. Hell if you're talking offensively, Kobe has a larger array of weapons compared to MJ. In terms of pure basketball skill, Lebron is not even top 5.
@@andycarollsuarez yeah ur right I was kind of speaking on from a production standpoint with everything he can do on the court and his physical frame hes the most all around gifted player, like a combination of both physical and basketball skill. But yeah guess i worded that wrong
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2010 NBA Finals
Game 7
Lakers 83 Celtics 79
Kobe Bryant 6-24 fg and 0-6 3pt for 23 points
2013 NBA Finals
Game 7
Heat 95 Spurs 88
LeBron James 12-23 fg and 5-10 3pt for 37 points
Game winning playoff buzzer beaters
LeBron 5 > Kobe 1
Kobe vs LeBron
PPG: LeBron
RPG: LeBron
APG: LeBron
SPG: LeBron
BPG: LeBron
FG%: LeBron
3PT%: LeBron
FT%: Kobe
TS%: LeBron
WS: LeBron
PER: LeBron
MVP's: LeBron
FMVP's: LeBron
Rings: Kobe (Best player on 2)
LeBron better player then Kobe
Seasons avg +25 ppg
LeBron 14 > Kobe 12
Seasons avg +25 ppg on +50% fg
LeBron 8 > Kobe 0
Seasons shooting +40% 3pt
LeBron 1 > Kobe 0
Triple Doubles
LeBron 74 > Kobe 21
Career +30 point games scoring
LeBron 436 > Kobe 431
Career highs scoring
Kobe Bryant 28-46 fg and 7-13 3pt for 81 points vs Raptors 27-55 record
LeBron James 22-33 fg and 8-10 3pt for 61 points vs Bobcats 43-39 record
Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg most missed shots in nba history isn't top 8 all time player
NBA top ten all time players
1. Michael Jordan
2. LeBron James
3. Kareem Abdul-Jabber
4. Wilt Chamberlain
5. Magic Johnson
6. Larry Bird
7. Shaquille O'Neal
8. Tim Duncan
9. Kobe Bryant
10. Hakeem Olajuwon
2008 season January 27
Cavs 98 Lakers 95
LeBron 41 points
Outplayed
Kobe 33 points
LeBron James hit shot in Kobe Bryant face to ice game
2010 Season December 25
Heat 96 Lakers 80
LeBron 8-14 fg and 5-6 3pt for 27 points an triple double
Outplayed
Kobe 6-16 fg and 1-3 3pt for 17 points
2013 January 17
LeBron 17-25 fg for 39 points
Outplayed
Kobe 8-25 fg for 22 points
In this game
LeBron 25 shots 17 makes
Kobe 25 shots 17 missed
Stats in career meetings
LeBron 28 ppg and 47% fg
Kobe 24 ppg and 42%
If Kobe Bryant could stop LeBron James he would have guarded him whole game
LeBron James 16-6 owns Kobe Bryant ass in 22 career meetings
LeBron James outplayed Kobe Bryant in they meetings
Where was Kobe Bryant defense at he could not stop LeBron James from killing Lakers
BIG SHAQ LOVE YOU BIG BROTHER!!!! 😎🦋🐝
Absolutely Kobe does. KD said it best MJ 1A, Kobe 1B
Real recognize real.
Kobe was not a "copy" of mj...he was Next level!!....but mj worshipers are programmed to "minimize" everything the Mamba "did"....Kobe was a better ball handler...shooter...dunker(sick reverse dunks in traffic)...his competition was More athletic...Kobe broke All of mj scoring records and did a Lot mj didn't do!...played more years...won chips with Less talent...made his teammates better(only needed 1 all star to get to the Finals....Russell/mj/bird/magic/Kareem played on STACKED teams.....Kobe was a threat to mj worshipers soon as he dropped "55" on mj wizards....and he was hated because he was cocky and went right AT mj soon as he got to the league......media Always make biased comparisons thru stats and taking everything out of context...mvp's are politics....you could argue Dennis rodman should have been Finals mvp one of the years Jordan got it.....he was a threat to pass mj ring count...so owners cried to stern to nix trade(Jordan too)..and stop Chris Paul from going to Lakers!!(never happened before in league history).....Kobe=Goat...(copy dat)
Ummm..Bird,Magic,Kareem played on "stacked" teams? They also Beat "Stacked" teams to win Titles
Shaq always had Kobes back.
Kobe all day!
Thank you shaq for stunning him with that question... Kobe >Lebron
LeBron James averages more points, rebounds, assists, steals, blocks and a higher fg%, 3pt% then Kobe Bryant. So its pretty clear LeBron the better player😂
Shaq spoke factz ...stop bringin up lebum when he's not even better than kobe
Kobe 44.7% fg most missed shots all time isnt top 6 all time player😂
HE CHANGED THE WHOLE CONVERSATION WHEN SHAQ BROUGHT UP KOBE ..RESPECT SHAQ
Thank you Shaq!
#1 MJ
#2 Kobe
Then every one else
1.Jordan
2.Kareem
3.LeBron
4.Chamberlain
5.Magic
6.Bird
7.Hakeem
8. Shaq
9.Duncan
10.Kobe
Career Points
Kareem 38,387✔ (Most Ever)
Kobe 33,643
Field Goal%
Kareem 55%✔
Kobe 44.7%
Rings
Kareem 6✔
Kobe 5
League Mvps
Kareem 6✔ (Most Ever)
Kobe 1
Finals Mvps
Kareem 2
Kobe 2
All Star Games
Kareem 19✔ (Most Ever)
Kobe 18
Kareem all time leading scorer
Kobe 14,481 all time missed shots leader
Kareem better than Kobe 😂
Jordan and Kareem top 2 😂
Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg most missed shots in nba history isnt even in top 9 all time players
I have Kobe 10th all time
You on heavy drugs if you think Kobe above Kareem 😂😂😂
Mavs 4-0 swept Kobe ass in 2011 playoffs 😂
Calling yourself the GOAT just means you're insecure and are trying to convince others
Luv shaq,always keep it 100 watts life...Major!
Mamba was the definite best player on the planet from 2001-2010, which was the the most competitive and the most athletic era of the NBA. Never mention or question why he only had 1 reg season MVP as this award is purely media based hence very subjective. Mamba cannot be measured by personal stats alone as it is a disservice to this greatness. He is all about winning the wars no matter what it takes. Eye test, championships, breath taking moments, game intangibles and the fear he brought to his opponents made the mamba the GOAT.
Kobe wasnt even best player on his own team from 1996-2004
2003 season Tim Duncan best player in nba led Spurs to 60 wins and nba title and best record won league mvp an finals mvp in same season and in playoffs Duncan led Spurs beat Kobe and Shaq Lakers
2003 playpoffs
Spurs 4 Lakers 2
Game 6
Spurs 110 Lakers 82
Tim Duncan 37 points and 16 rebounds
Outplayed
Kobe 20 points
After game Kobe was caught crying on sideline with Derek Fisher💀
The real know Kobe is a better basketball player than LeBron.
LeBron is bigger, stronger, and more athletic sure.. that still does not make you the better player 💀. I think ppl get LeBron’s dominance confused with skill. LeBron has never and will never score 81 points in a game.
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Career high
Wilt 100✔
Kobe 81
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Points Per Game
Wilt 30.07✔
Kobe 24.99
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Field Goal%
Wilt 54%
Kobe 44.7%
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Scoring Titles
Wilt 7✔
Kobe 2
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Triple Doubles
Wilt 78✔
Kobe 21
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Leading nba in assists
Wilt 1✔
Kobe 0
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League Mvps
Wilt 4✔
Kobe 1
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Wilt Chamberlain better scorer than Kobe Bryant
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Wilt Chamberlain better all around player than Kobe Bryant
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My eye test tells me Wilt better than Kobe and i have statiscial evidence to back it up 😂
Sage Rison I know this. Lmao Wilt & Kareem are the goats
Sage Rison Better defenders going up against them
Kobe☑️
Wilt
THE BLACK MAMBA IS NEXT AFTER JORDAN
Yeah only at SG Kobe after Jordan
Other Kobe 44.7% fg most missed shots in nba history isnt top 8 all time player 😂
@@josephstevens228 AND STILL WAS A WINNER
@@beefwearclothingjones1654
Pippen 6 > Kobe 5 😂
@@davionrison4803 pippen and Jordan had each other koby had Shaq then Shaq Left and koby won without him did pippen do that??🤔
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Kobe not in goat convo even a little bit
Kobe not even best player ever at his own position
Goat 🐐Jordan best SG ever
As long as Micheal Jordan exist yo hero Kobe Bryant will always be in his shadow
I dont even have to bring LeBron up 😂
Kobe not even best player ever in his own franchise
Kareem and Magic better than Kobe
Why does Kareem name get skipped over and Kobe name brought up 😂😂
Kareem best player ever at his position Center
Kareem more nba titles, league mvps, points, fgs, rebounds then Kobe 😂😂
Kobe wasnt even best player on his first 3 titles
Shaquille O'Neal 3 finals mvps best player on Lakers 3peat and Kobe Bryant side
First ring
Kobe 15.6 ppg and 36.7% fg and 20% 3pt
Carried by
Shaq 38 ppg and 61% fg and 16 rpg
I will take Duncan over Kobe
Finals mvps
Duncan 3✔
Kobe 2
League mvps
Duncan 2✔
Kobe 1
FG%
Duncan 50.6%✔
Kobe 44.7%
Kobe 6 times led nba in missed shots
Kobe 2 times led nba in scoring
Kobe led nba in missed shots more than he led nba in scoring 😭😭
Kobe most overrated player
Duncan most underrated
They should never be compared! That's it. These dudes give everything on this game the least we could give back is to appreciate their greatness. You can appreciate without comparing and the nonsense arguments.
Thanx shaq!!! Ive been saying Kobe is one of the best forever!!!!
Shaq hit it on the nose it is very disrespectful Kobe Studied Michael Jordan, Jordan and Kobe should be the conversation in their style of play not Lebron.
It sounded like Shaq said, "My Girlfriend Willie Miginnis"
lololol
Im so glad that shaq's put this out there. I have been saying this for years. Kobe is up there with Jordan. But less keep it real, if your going off of rings, mr. Russel is the goat. Go Lakers
Kobe gets overlooked cuz most people only remember his last few years
Jordan won without a dominant big man. Kobe won with a dominant big man. LeBron won with a dominant big man AND a clutch guard superstar.
did you forget who scottie pippen and dennis rodman are?
@@georgeofthejungle9193
Jordan 6 finals mvps best player on all 6 titles he won
Kobe 2 finals mvps best player on only 2 titles he won 😂
First Ring
Kobe 15.6 ppg and 36.7% fg and 20% 3pt
Carried by
Shaq 38 ppg and 61% fg and 16 rpg
First Ring
Jordan 31.2 ppg and 6.6 rpg and 11.4 apg an 55.8% fg and 50% 3pt
Shaquille O'Neal 3 finals mvps best player on Lakers 3peat and Kobe Bryant a sidekick
Goat 🐐Jordan never needed a top 10 all time player like Shaquille O'Neal to win titles 😂😂😂
Jordan only had Pippen first 3 titles which you failed to mention
1991 playoffs
Bulls 4 Pistons 0
Jordan swept the bad boys Pistons with 3 hall of famers Isiah Thomas, Joe Dumars, Dennis Rodman 😂
Dennis Rodman wasnt on all of Jordans titles you dumb ass😂😂
Dennis Rodman 35, 36, 37 years old was on Bulls last 3peat in 1996, 1997, 1998😂😂
Kobe had Dennis Rodman and Shaquille O'Neal and still couldnt win in 1999 😂
Goat 🐐Jordan > Copycat Kobe
Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg most missed shots in nba history isnt even top 9 all time player
Jordan, Kareem, LeBron, Chamberlain, Magic, Bird, Duncan, Shaq, Hakeem all better players than Kobe
Mavs 4-0 swept Kobe ass in 2011 playoffs😂😂😂
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Bosh is a dominant big man now? Dude played like a guard most of the time. He got an okay amount of rebounds but calling him a DOMINANT BIG MAN is a bit of a reach 😂
@@kvltizt 11 times all star out of 13 seasons, and was the franchise player for the raptors during a long time. its true that he had a different role at miami, but the guy was quality
@@loganido he was nice. He wasn't a number 1 though.
They trying to wash Kobe legacy
Nobody brought up Kobe so how they try to wash Kobe legacy when he wasnt even in convo🤔
Facts
@@dareblane6802 you don't get it. Poor you
Big respect to the big man, Shaq played with all three in their primes so I take his word over any commentator or commenter
Shaq is the truth! That is an incredible thought
If MJ said it’s disrespectul to call me GOAT because he didn’t play against other players in the past, why is Brady the goat when the nfl turn hella soft for the offense. Can’t touch QBs nor WRs. Plus, spygate/delfategate/cameragate/And all other gates lol PEDgate(Edelman).
Yupp. Brady would have gotten torn in half in the Joe Montana era.
Have you ever heard Brady refer to himself as the goat and oh ya stay mad 6 rings most by any NFL player ever end of discussion also I've seen my team in more super bowls in my 20 years of life than your team will make in your lifetime feels bad :(
Montana is the goat!
@@seamdon6956 he played like dogshit in this last SB though. Don't even start doling out credit like he threw for 4 TDs and 400 yards.
Butter Johnson individual play doesn’t win anything had one of his best Super Bowls against the eagles and lost he did what he had to to win this time I wouldn’t say he had a bad game but it was far from good too
Lebron not even the greatest in the league rn as of February of 2019. That belongs to KD
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Finals Mvps
Duncan 3 > Kobe 2
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League Mvps
Duncan 2 > Kobe 1
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All Defensive Team Selections
Duncan 15 > Kobe 12
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Rookie of year
Duncan Yes > Kobe No
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FG%
Duncan 50.6% > Kobe 44.7%
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Duncan better player than Kobe
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🐐Jordan > Duncan > Kobe