What Law Applies In International Waters?

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    In this video, we explore how international laws apply to ships at sea. We introduce concepts like Port State, Flag State, and Flags of Convenience. We look at how it all has an influence over the laws onboard ships.
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  • @tamaslapsanszki8744
    @tamaslapsanszki8744 Před 3 lety +4289

    When the ships were loaded with containers they slowly sunk deeper into water. That's the kind of attention to details that I appreciate at this channel

    • @CasualNavigation
      @CasualNavigation  Před 3 lety +599

      Thanks Tamas. I'm pleased those bits get spotted.

    • @mathportillo
      @mathportillo Před 3 lety +246

      Also the sound mixing, whenever shore or land is shown, there are bird sounds. and animated graphics with corresponding sound fx feels more grounded. The music fits well and has the right volume so it doesn't distract, which astounds me how often it's done wrong on youtube.

    • @mathportillo
      @mathportillo Před 3 lety +144

      I think good content attracts entusiasts, but good direction and writing creates new entusiasts. It is my case, I know nothing about navigation and I doesn't even have plans to go on a cruise, but the way the information is presented is enjoyful and I learn as a result

    • @CasualNavigation
      @CasualNavigation  Před 3 lety +98

      Thanks Matheus.

    • @pizzagummy3040
      @pizzagummy3040 Před 3 lety +15

      That and the flag seamlessly transitioning from land to being on the back of the ship. So satisfying

  • @grondhero
    @grondhero Před 3 lety +1538

    *SIDE NOTE:* For cruise line ships, if a crime is committed aboard a ship while underway, the authority that deals with the crime is whatever port you're docked in or headed to at the time.

    • @TrabberShir
      @TrabberShir Před 3 lety +148

      With surprising and confusing exceptions all over the place.
      A country is not required to enforce it's laws under those circumstances and some won't even if the vessel parties voluntarily submit to the receiving port's authority. For a long time, the most prominent example of that was Spain, if it was not on a Spanish flagged ship and not in Spanish waters, Spanish courts would not hear it.
      You also get confusing exceptions from the fact that submitting to the receiving port's authority is almost always technically at the discretion of the ship's master. Thus some smaller cruise lines (and maybe big ones, I'm not sure) have it in the fine print that passengers will be held accountable to law enforcement at the next port of call, crew are only accountable to the flag country's law when in international waters. The Ship's master's discretion has also been used to prevent incident's embarrassing to the operator from becoming matters of public record.
      "Laws that apply on cruise ships" can be a really complicated topic.

    • @grondhero
      @grondhero Před 3 lety +54

      @Todd m The only cruise ship with an American registry is _Pride of America,_ which is part of NCL. All of their other 16 ships are registered in the Bahamas. Either the captain doesn't know what he's talking about or there was more to the conversation that you (understandably) didn't share. If it were the case of a Florida resident committing a crime against another Florida resident, then the case would take place in Florida. Otherwise, it wouldn't.
      _Case in point:_
      *"Case 4:* Victims were U.S. citizens. The alleged assaulter was a foreign crewmember employed by the cruise ship at the time of the assault. The incident took place in international waters on a foreign flagged vessel. Assaulter entered 5 different staterooms, sexually assaulting 5 women in the same night. Crewmember was caught by a victim’s cabin mate and was severely beaten by cruise ship security while trying to jump ship. At the next port, Bermuda police came on board to collect evidence and statements. Trial was held in Bermuda as it was the governing jurisdiction and law applied."
      _As well as:_
      “Currently, U.S. federal law enforcement agencies, including the FBI, Navy, and Coast Guard, must obtain permission from a cruise ship's flag country before beginning a criminal investigation; U.S. agents cannot even board a cruise ship that may be the scene of a crime committed by or against an American citizen if the ship is located beyond U.S. waters”
      Both can be found here:
      www.cruiseresearch.org/Legal%20Issues%20Relevant%20to%20Cruise%20Ships.html

    • @Quasihamster
      @Quasihamster Před 3 lety +51

      So better don't steal on ships bound to some Arabian countries :o

    • @benwilson6145
      @benwilson6145 Před 3 lety

      @Todd m Not correct, the only ship that they own that is US registered is the Pride of America.

    • @henryhazelton
      @henryhazelton Před 3 lety

      @@TrabberShir in issued

  • @sminthian
    @sminthian Před 3 lety +1851

    I used to live in Alaska. Stripping is illegal in Alaska, and one guy really hated that. He registered a boat in Washington and would pick up people from various cities and take them 1 mile off-shore, outside of state jurisdiction. And then it'd be a floating strip club.

    • @kingmasterlord
      @kingmasterlord Před 3 lety +231

      people on the frontier are always able to make a better life for themselves

    • @benwilson6145
      @benwilson6145 Před 3 lety +54

      @YouthRightsActivist A "natural" genius

    • @kookamunga2458
      @kookamunga2458 Před 3 lety +7

      Proper thing .

    • @Spotcats
      @Spotcats Před 3 lety +99

      Not all heroes ware capes. (Unless this guy did ware a cape.) :P

    • @Me-eb3wv
      @Me-eb3wv Před 3 lety +3

      Lol

  • @ju.h_man
    @ju.h_man Před 3 lety +88

    3:21 he actually used the flags corresponding to Y and Z in the international flag alphabet, that's some serious detailing here

  • @wraithcadmus
    @wraithcadmus Před 3 lety +825

    The proud maritime nation of Zulu, national motto "I Need A Tug".

    • @lmlmd2714
      @lmlmd2714 Před 3 lety +28

      National flagship: Ever Tuggin'

    • @Quasihamster
      @Quasihamster Před 3 lety +32

      Head of state: Tuck Tuggersson
      National flag: The tugcolore!
      National Anthem: Tugs galore!
      Defense Strategy: Tug of war.

    • @crimsonhalo13
      @crimsonhalo13 Před 3 lety +6

      Don't let them transit the Suez Canal ...

    • @VidarrKerr
      @VidarrKerr Před 3 lety

      I think that is actually Wakanda's motto.

    • @koboldparty4708
      @koboldparty4708 Před 3 lety +4

      Actually, it's "The fate of the Empire rests on the outcome of this battle. Let each man do his utmost."

  • @harshjain4312
    @harshjain4312 Před 3 lety +1284

    Waiting for your vid on Suez Canal

    • @fincuradam5124
      @fincuradam5124 Před 3 lety +10

      The same came to my mind when i saw the video

    • @hugohom2280
      @hugohom2280 Před 3 lety +5

      Excited for that one

    • @sailorxyz5000
      @sailorxyz5000 Před 3 lety +5

      I had made a video on that, do check guys

    • @CasualNavigation
      @CasualNavigation  Před 3 lety +470

      I am keeping an eye on the story and will do one as soon as the facts come out

    • @mopsnuf
      @mopsnuf Před 3 lety

      I was going to comment the exact same thing, haha. +1!

  • @TheSoundsniper
    @TheSoundsniper Před 3 lety +47

    I never set out to learn about shipping, but after just 1 of your videos (how an anchor actually works) I watched most of your back catalogue and now eagerly await your new uploads. From the way you easily explain sometimes difficult concepts to the awesome animations and attention to detail, everything about your content draws me in and not just entertains but teaches. Now to find a situation where any of it is useful to me..... maybe I'll buy a boat.
    Thank you for your content and keep up the amazing work.

    • @CasualNavigation
      @CasualNavigation  Před 3 lety +8

      Thanks Luke. Great to have you aboard

    • @PkPvre
      @PkPvre Před 3 lety +1

      I'm in the same BOAT ;) Same reason I watch the pilot 'Captain Joe' and PowerCert Animated Videos whomst makes videos about hardware. None of the 3 I have any huge affiliation with, but all 3 things are still very much connected to our daily lives.

  • @sirlagsalot8474
    @sirlagsalot8474 Před 3 lety +47

    Next episode on Casual Navigation : "how to properly drift inside a narrow canal "

  • @liz5100
    @liz5100 Před 3 lety +2324

    remember when american cruise ships switched to flag of convenience to avoid labor laws and paying taxes... and then wanted american government bail outs when covid hit

    • @AlaskaPirates
      @AlaskaPirates Před 3 lety +153

      I do remember that very clearly.

    • @lookingbehind6335
      @lookingbehind6335 Před 3 lety +228

      Remember when? They are still doing it.

    • @kevinbutton4580
      @kevinbutton4580 Před 3 lety +32

      You can't simply just change your flag and not be a united States ship anymore...when you buy a boat you have to register it with the united states aka putting a "flag on it"

    • @AlaskaPirates
      @AlaskaPirates Před 3 lety +226

      @@kevinbutton4580 you must be from a different reality.... because that’s not how it works in this one😉

    • @AlaskaPirates
      @AlaskaPirates Před 3 lety +22

      @@lookingbehind6335 I’m more supposed that the DIDN’T get bailed out🤣😳

  • @Quasihamster
    @Quasihamster Před 3 lety +834

    Here in Cologne , Germany, most of the tourist boats are registered in Malta. For the sole reason that the Maltese flag looks more like flag of Cologne compared to Germany's. Has NOTHING AT ALL to do with economics or such, or taxes, no no no no!

    • @renansilveira2013
      @renansilveira2013 Před 3 lety +26

      Lol

    • @tsar_zo8007
      @tsar_zo8007 Před 3 lety +93

      Nein, nein, nein, nein!

    • @StarlightEater
      @StarlightEater Před 3 lety +18

      Its a cool lookin flag i gotta say i dont blame em.
      Personally I think Mozambiques old one was pretty dope. The one with the sunburst colors from the plow/ak47/book seal from 50 or so years ago.

    • @Quasihamster
      @Quasihamster Před 3 lety +6

      @@tsar_zo8007 Jenau! Un dat sagen se alle hier!

    • @fariesz6786
      @fariesz6786 Před 3 lety +11

      Mer lasse de Dom in Maaaalta 🎵

  • @ComeAtMe561
    @ComeAtMe561 Před 3 lety +31

    wow... this 6 minute video taught me everything I learned in a semester long college Maritime Law course

  • @patricklaine6958
    @patricklaine6958 Před 3 lety +371

    You referred to them as 'flags of convenience'. I've heard them called 'flags of non-compliance' because the real objective is to avoid taxes, labor laws, environmental legislation, etc.

    • @SonsOfLorgar
      @SonsOfLorgar Před 3 lety +35

      Exactly, but the corporate gangsters prefer flag of "convenience", *their* convenience...

    • @bladebiker100
      @bladebiker100 Před 3 lety +31

      all flags are in compliance with IMO standards, taxes are not avoided, they are just smaller and have different advantages, nothing is illegal

    • @patricklaine6958
      @patricklaine6958 Před 3 lety +24

      @@bladebiker100 You're right Laur. Panama and Liberia combined have about 11,500 ships on their registries. China and the USA each have about 3,500. Panama and Liberia are both famous for their marine 'oversight and enforcement' infrastructures --- and so attract more business from socially progressive fleet owners.

    • @davidanalyst671
      @davidanalyst671 Před 3 lety +5

      The messaging in this video was not subtle

    • @the4tierbridge
      @the4tierbridge Před 2 lety +1

      @@davidanalyst671 What messaging?

  • @BootlegSonicToy
    @BootlegSonicToy Před 3 lety +527

    Zulu, also known as Panama🇵🇦

    • @AlexandreMS71
      @AlexandreMS71 Před 3 lety +29

      More like Liberia

    • @arttujarvinen568
      @arttujarvinen568 Před 3 lety +15

      Or singapore, or hong kong, or cyprus

    • @VidarrKerr
      @VidarrKerr Před 3 lety +5

      @@AlexandreMS71 Yeah, Liberia, but quite possibly Wakanda.

    • @NADA9428
      @NADA9428 Před 3 lety +14

      yey my country is popular!... for ships avoiding regulation *sigh*

    • @callsignsparty6503
      @callsignsparty6503 Před 3 lety +3

      More like Komi

  • @Shaderox
    @Shaderox Před 3 lety +152

    That reminds me of home, the ferrys between southern sweden and denmark has a liquor store and a cigarette store and when they cross the midpoint one closes and the other opens to comply with the local laws (sweden is very strict with alcholol and only the government is allowed to sell(restaurants with permits can sell)) while denmark either has stricter laws on cigarettes or just really high prices (I don't smoke so i don't know specifically about that, i just thought it was funny how the shops keep cycling to loop around the local laws since the trip across doesn't take that long so they're not open that long at a time).

    • @BertGrink
      @BertGrink Před 3 lety +1

      I live in Denmark, and I'm a smoker; i think a pack of cigarettes (20) costs around 60 or 65 DKK, but i mostly "roll my own" so that price range may not be 100% accurate. However, in Norway they are even more expensive, somewhere around 200 NOK for a pack!

    • @Kevin-fj5oe
      @Kevin-fj5oe Před 2 lety +2

      Meanwhile, a pack of cigarettes cost .50 cent to $2 in my country. My personal brand of choice are just $1.70 ish, and at least 2x denser than Marlboro or equivalent.
      Edit: it's 10 DKK or 13 NOK

    • @SuperFranzs
      @SuperFranzs Před rokem

      @@BertGrink Danskjævel!

  • @Sebastian-hk5lx
    @Sebastian-hk5lx Před 3 lety

    Great video. Its always a pleasure when you upload a new video. I love how informative and entertaining they are.

  • @criollitoification
    @criollitoification Před 3 lety +1

    Sooo gd to to see you back Cash Nav !!! Excellent vid as always, hope you are doing well my friend;

  • @alwaysbearded1
    @alwaysbearded1 Před 3 lety +470

    Interesting, old limit 3 miles cannon range, 12 miles plus 12 gets you to range of a typical 16" naval gun, so, despite all other factors we are back to the range of artillery? Could just be coincidence. Thanks for making this video as it is an important topic most people know little about.

    • @TheSoundsniper
      @TheSoundsniper Před 3 lety +41

      Well it does make sense, however it is probable a coincidence as with ICBM's and things it makes range a moot point in modern warfare when attacking a fixed land target.

    • @ecpgieicg
      @ecpgieicg Před 3 lety +13

      If the coincidence requires 12 *plus* 12, then it's probably just a coincidence. The number 12 itself came before UNCLOS. I wonder how that came about. UNCLOS endorsed it because of a compromise between US and some others not wanting more and China and many others wanting more. 12+12 was more for practicality given the 12.

    • @voin5371
      @voin5371 Před 2 lety +2

      To be fair, if missiles fails old fashion cannons will never fail to amaze and destroy the opposition.

    • @simplyyellow6240
      @simplyyellow6240 Před 2 lety +3

      Indonesia be like : Haha...not work for us, we are island country,we can claim entire ocean in between

    • @counterfeitsaint7479
      @counterfeitsaint7479 Před 2 lety

      There are no 16" naval guns outside of a museum though, and haven't been for quite awhile.

  • @youdonotsimply
    @youdonotsimply Před 3 lety +422

    200nm EEZ
    China: I'm gonna pretend I didn't see that

    • @afthefragile
      @afthefragile Před 3 lety +56

      Or build an island in the middle of the ocean and claim it as theirs!

    • @hrvojebartulovic7870
      @hrvojebartulovic7870 Před 3 lety +11

      @@afthefragile I would do that if I could!
      You're telling me you wouldn't? Why not? It isn't fair?

    • @mrslinkydragon9910
      @mrslinkydragon9910 Před 3 lety +21

      @@afthefragile if the um actually had a spine they would tell china to fuck off and jog on with their claims before threatening heavy sanctions for provoking countries with hostile actions

    • @mathewferstl7042
      @mathewferstl7042 Před 3 lety +14

      @@afthefragile the 200nm eez doesnt count man made islands

    • @jorisd6584
      @jorisd6584 Před 3 lety +15

      @@mathewferstl7042 China doesn't care and built one anyway exactly for the reason of expanding EEZ. Just google Soutch China Sea EEZ island and you'll find a lot of info

  • @HandattheHelm
    @HandattheHelm Před 3 lety +4

    " Ship Register, Kingdom of Zulu:
    1. Sunrise
    2. Kingdom Sera
    3. Hulu
    4. Magestic (sic)
    5. Liberation
    6. St. Helena
    7. Jade RE
    8. Utopia
    9. Pinot
    10. Sea Breeze
    11. Westerly Front
    12. Piggle
    13. Roger
    14. Salad
    15. Josephine
    16. Mary Celeste
    17. Story Time
    18. River Song
    19. Yalkey
    20. Gersyt "
    Love how Majestic is spelled wrong and how the names devolve into literal keymashes by the end

  • @TCrowls
    @TCrowls Před 3 lety

    Just learned about UNCLOS in my International Law class, this was a great review!!

  • @Plumsytheghillieone
    @Plumsytheghillieone Před 3 lety +129

    I'm certified for both boats and ships, and I know the topic of every single video this channel puts out. And still there's always something new and fascinating I learn with every video :)
    Thank you so much for this great content :D

    • @thordenwalter7464
      @thordenwalter7464 Před rokem +1

      Can you please add a Video about the collision Regulation in international waters and so forth?

    • @MENSA.lady2
      @MENSA.lady2 Před rokem +1

      The only boats are submarines, even then a submarine on the surface is a ship. Are you a qualified submariner. ?

    • @johncopenhaver4311
      @johncopenhaver4311 Před rokem

      @@MENSA.lady2 Yeah no, a submarine is still a boat when surfaced. A ship can carry boats and other vessels aboard, a boat cannot

  • @benjamino.7475
    @benjamino.7475 Před 3 lety +100

    What if I wanted to register my ship under a sealand flag? Pirate Time

    • @ev6558
      @ev6558 Před 3 lety +25

      Unfortunately not only does no sovereign nation recognize the national status of Sealand but in addition the UNCLOS doesn't consider artificial installations as being proper territory of a nation like a natural island would be.

    • @munqsy2931
      @munqsy2931 Před 3 lety +4

      @@ev6558 So let's say i register a ship in switzerland. I'd need the swiss police to investigate any illegal goods manufactured/grown/refined on board right? How would that work, provided i'd never reenter any port while still carrying said goods?

    • @ev6558
      @ev6558 Před 3 lety +18

      @@munqsy2931 Well if your home authorities wanted to investigate you I'm sure they'd have any number of ways of compelling you under threat of penalty to submit to that investigation. I guess if nobody reported the crime and the authorities didn't notice it then you would get away with it, but of course that's how it works on land too lol. However I believe If your criminal activity is effecting another nation, like if you are processing drugs on the boat and then they are being smuggled into a country without you docking in port, that country could still claim jurisdiction to go after you.

    • @FoxDren
      @FoxDren Před 3 lety +4

      @@munqsy2931 if you're referring to drugs expect to be scuttled by the first naval ship to come across you.

    • @SonsOfLorgar
      @SonsOfLorgar Před 3 lety +5

      @@FoxDren not scuttled. He would get it boarded, seized and forfeited as well as charged under the laws of the naval vessel that caught him.

  • @joeylawell3590
    @joeylawell3590 Před 3 lety +1

    We need videos like this to bring attention to the subjects not talked about in federal education systems. Good on you

  • @aswler
    @aswler Před 3 lety

    Well explained - one of the many questions I have always wanted to ask somebody.

  • @KevinLindstromMedia
    @KevinLindstromMedia Před 3 lety +96

    Even if you are familiar with the topic, its always nice to watch your nice animations and well thought out explanations. And even still, you then get to learn more of the nautical jargon. Great video, cheers!

  • @Kreuzrippengewoelbe
    @Kreuzrippengewoelbe Před 3 lety +5

    Hello, your videos are extraordinarily relaxing and nice to watch. Great job.

  • @muhammadaddinidham3946

    Now i know what i have been trying to understand in parts of marine cadastral subject, thanks for the quick lecture, the best of information channel i have been subscribed so far

  • @vf19blue
    @vf19blue Před 2 lety

    Stumbled upon the anchor video and loved it, this was very interesting too, subscribed! Great work 👍

  • @JoelMatton
    @JoelMatton Před 3 lety +145

    Afaik the federal drinking age in the US is actually 18, but all 50 states have "voluntarily" chosen to raise the state drinking age to 21 due to a law passed in the 1980s that says states that don't raise their drinking age lose their highway funds. I could be wrong about this but I believe that the Pride of America could legally have 18 as their drinking age if they wanted to, even within the US, as they only have to follow federal law and not state law.

    • @mancubwwa
      @mancubwwa Před 3 lety +13

      I'm not sure if they don't have to follow state law while in port. But definetaly not in international waters.

    • @ShroomKeppie
      @ShroomKeppie Před 3 lety +62

      There is no federal drinking age in the US. States set their own, subject to the arm-twisting you described.

    • @jamesmcdonald1851
      @jamesmcdonald1851 Před 3 lety +5

      @@ShroomKeppie That's interesting, I wonder how an American flagged ship will decide which state's law they will comply with, if there is no federal law overruling it.

    • @davidwebb4904
      @davidwebb4904 Před 3 lety +5

      The UK, no minimum drinking age 👍🏻

    • @RealHankShill
      @RealHankShill Před 3 lety +12

      @@jamesmcdonald1851 American flagged ships are not flagged to the federal government, everyone has a state port. So you have to follow the rules of your hailing port, just like every other boat on the planet.

  • @morkovija
    @morkovija Před 3 lety +12

    Very pleasant piece of quality content. thank you

  • @basheersamara9379
    @basheersamara9379 Před 3 lety +2

    That’s cool! Thanks for sharing!

  • @spacetoilet
    @spacetoilet Před 3 lety +4

    I love this channel and learned allot about shipping here. Looking forward to your video about their Suez traffic jam! 🤭

  • @foxtailedcritter
    @foxtailedcritter Před 3 lety +5

    Thanks for these easy to understand videos. I'm saving up for a boat and slowly learning basics about boats, laws and random stuff is nice.

  • @sailorxyz5000
    @sailorxyz5000 Před 3 lety +38

    Please cover Suez canal incident, I have made a video on it do check it please. 12% of world cargo transportation is affected and it's an heart attack to the economy if not cleared within few days

    • @CasualNavigation
      @CasualNavigation  Před 3 lety +30

      I hope to cover it, but want to know more facts first. Was it wind, bank effect etc..

    • @sailorxyz5000
      @sailorxyz5000 Před 3 lety +1

      We ll soon find out what went wrong.

    • @LPRD
      @LPRD Před 3 lety +2

      @@CasualNavigation the company 'Boskalis' who is going to help clear the ship was on our national news explaining some of the causes and methods they intent to look at. They've already made 3d models and such. It's a really big problem as the canal is pretty shallow at the sides, so it's basically a beached whale

    • @Quasihamster
      @Quasihamster Před 3 lety +8

      @@CasualNavigation Was there Ever Given a better reason to wait with a video?
      Sorry I couldn't resist...

    • @pdsnpsnldlqnop3330
      @pdsnpsnldlqnop3330 Před 3 lety

      @@CasualNavigation Just reupload when the facts change. Easy.

  • @diggidong470
    @diggidong470 Před 3 lety

    Very interesting. Clear explanation. Thank you!

  • @tsquaredtest1
    @tsquaredtest1 Před 2 lety +1

    @4:07 I like how you lowered the ship's waterline as more containers were piled on top, subtle

  • @bandharapusaishashankgoudg779

    love your video,s sir, i have gained so much knowledge about ships from your channel

  • @docbaduck
    @docbaduck Před 3 lety +10

    Your videos are always so instructive !
    Have you ever heard about the Empress of ireland ? Ship sank in 14 minutes after being rammed by a colier in 1914 I think.

    • @CasualNavigation
      @CasualNavigation  Před 3 lety +3

      Thanks DocbadLuck. I have been looking at that incident to see if there are some unique learning points to take from it to make a good video

  • @andrewmagdaleno5417
    @andrewmagdaleno5417 Před 3 lety

    Great video mate. Thanks for your work.

  • @robgazzard4432
    @robgazzard4432 Před 3 lety

    Excellent and informative video. Thank you.

  • @grizwoldphantasia5005
    @grizwoldphantasia5005 Před 2 lety +3

    There's a fascinating legal case from the US Prohibition era. A bootlegging mother ship, the "I'm Alone", was UK-flagged and would bring bootleg booze to 11 miles from the US coast, where US fast boats would pick it up for the final illegal leg of the delivery. The Coast Guard started tracking the I'm Alone, chased it for a full day, it sank, a Frenchman died, and there was an international legal incident over the matter. Been a while since I read of it, but that won't stop me from trying to remember some details of the various legal disputes:
    * Was it a 12 mile distance, or one hour at cruising speed, which was 9 knots for the I'm Alone?
    * Was it a continuous uninterrupted hot pursuit, since the Coast Guard did switch ships in the middle of the pursuit, and it did include an overnight stretch where the Coast Guard did lose track of the ship a few times.
    * The I'm Alone was UK-flagged; was the Coast Guard pursuit even legal once it got into truly international waters?
    I was particularly fascinated by the "one hour cruising speed" claim instead of 12 miles. It may no longer be a consideration now under current international law, but it was a legitimate claim then, apparently.
    Maybe I ought to go read about it again.

  • @PanzerMan332
    @PanzerMan332 Před 3 lety +18

    I was wondering why my cruise ship traveled from South Carolina to Nassau, but flew the flag of Panama.

    • @KeehseLP
      @KeehseLP Před 3 lety +1

      flag of convenience

    • @carlgharis7948
      @carlgharis7948 Před rokem

      As you're subject to Panama laws out in international waters.

  • @danielwilson3671
    @danielwilson3671 Před rokem

    Very informative and interesting! Thank you!

  • @indeedinteresting2156
    @indeedinteresting2156 Před 3 lety

    I was a bit confused about flag state and port state. Thanks for this video.

  • @rocket1441
    @rocket1441 Před 3 lety +3

    Love your videos mate! I have little interest in most things maritime-related but your great presentations are easy to follow and make it fun to learn even about obscure topics. Keep up the great work!

  • @JonasAlexanderson
    @JonasAlexanderson Před 2 lety +3

    This is very interesting. Some countries even have two registers, one for domestic ships (cabotage allowed) and one international registry (flag of convenience). Denmark, UK and Norway are some countries with this system.
    This is also a way for for small countries to make some extra revenues. Small island states and land locked countries have FoC. Vanuatu, Bahamas, Cayman Islands are exempels of small island nations with big fleets and Mongolia a landlocked country. (I have been piloting a ship with the home port of Ulan Bator, it will never be able to go to that port or even the country of Mongolia).

  • @robsmithracing
    @robsmithracing Před rokem +1

    Fun fact: the U.K. radio station Radio 1 started off on a small boat moored in international waters so they don’t have to pay a broadcasting license. Pirate radio stations.

  • @wi.llclay
    @wi.llclay Před 3 lety +1

    Another awesome video! Thanks :D

  • @gunnarulset4196
    @gunnarulset4196 Před 3 lety +39

    Awesome vid. Do you think you could do a "How sea forces affect the ship in bad weather?" in the future?

    • @CasualNavigation
      @CasualNavigation  Před 3 lety +20

      Funnily enough I thought of this the other day in respect of how sea forces cause cracks on ships. Its now on my list for a future video idea.

    • @gunnarulset4196
      @gunnarulset4196 Před 3 lety

      Ey! 🙌

    • @0623kaboom
      @0623kaboom Před 3 lety +2

      @@CasualNavigation you should also do the difference and distinction between a countries flag and maritime flag .... such as in a court of law one sees a flag of a country with gold bunting or tassles ... that is a maritime flag and it uses martial law and maritime law as its rules ... NOT the countries land based rules ... MAJOR difference between them ...
      since all countries are registered as their ocean zone limit ... NOT their land .... thus the use of maritime martial law .... and not true justice ...

    • @michaelfernald8906
      @michaelfernald8906 Před 3 lety

      nerd

  • @Captain-Axeman
    @Captain-Axeman Před 3 lety +6

    I hope you do a video at the Norwegian sea and the treaty there at one point. It's basically what made sure Norway had the right to the oil there. Making sure there was already a deal for the sea territories before if oil was there.

  • @Th0rodin
    @Th0rodin Před 3 lety

    That Sunless sea music... perfect!

  • @jaywerner8415
    @jaywerner8415 Před 3 lety

    Iv always wondered how that worked, Appreciate the education.

  • @Stings2pee
    @Stings2pee Před 3 lety +97

    What happens if a ship is registered in a "country" that the United Nations does not recognize as a country? For example, Taiwan is only recognized as an independent nation by 22 of the 193 member states. If a Taiwan-registered vessel gets intercepted in international waters by a country that doesn't recognize Taiwan, that should be very interesting.

    • @argenisjrg
      @argenisjrg Před 3 lety +39

      International law doesn't expressly solve that interesting matter. However, its nationality must be recognized anyway. For instance, Hong Kong isn't a sovereign State, but it has its own ships, whose nationality isn't disputed by sovereign States.
      None of the Law of the Sea conventions obliges ships to be registered in a country recognized by UN. They just need to be registered in a State which (in theory) exercises effective control over its ships.

    • @jerrykinnin7941
      @jerrykinnin7941 Před 2 lety +5

      Im in shipping and containers specifically. Most countries have their own shipping lines. The biggest is Maersk/Hamburg SUD (Dutch) MED (Italy) HapagLoyd/UASC hapag bought United Arab.
      (Germany) CMA/CMG/APL (france)
      China Shipping and OOCL are COSCO (china) Yang Ming and Evergreen (Taiwan ) ONE is Kline NYK and MOL (japan) Hyundai and SK are Korean. Then there are a hole mess of Leasing companies for all the other boxes. 2 in Hong Kong and at least 3 in the US and one per country so pay attention to those double stack trains as they bring stuff to and fro.
      MSK Mediterranean

    • @Temo990
      @Temo990 Před 2 lety +3

      @@argenisjrg Same would count for the EU if they would decide to build up a navy. They are legaly not a country (but a union of countries).

    • @Temo990
      @Temo990 Před 2 lety +1

      Well technically if they are not recognized as a country they haven't signt treaties on
      ABC weapon ban and their usage or war crimes either.
      That gives them some powerful options to defend their ships if necessary and use weapons others may not use.
      They pretty much are outlaws and can than retaliate like an outlaw by intercepting their boats.

    • @argenisjrg
      @argenisjrg Před 2 lety +1

      @@Temo990 Agreed.

  • @Hybris51129
    @Hybris51129 Před 3 lety +47

    I wonder then if you could make a viable micro nation based on being a flag of convenience. If so then I might just buy a oil rig and create "The Holy Empire of Technicality".

    • @grondhero
      @grondhero Před 3 lety +19

      Wouldn't work. To be a viable nation, you'd have to be recognized by the U.N. They do not recognize artificial "islands" as nations. I'm certain there are plenty of viable countries to choose from. Even Mongolia, which is a land-locked country, has ships registered to it. It also will depend on what type of vessel you're registering, if it's a cargo vessel, cruise ship, or luxury yacht.

    • @nsfeliz7825
      @nsfeliz7825 Před 3 lety +13

      will you appoint me as the vice emperor of alchohol and wild partying?

    • @Hybris51129
      @Hybris51129 Před 3 lety +8

      @@nsfeliz7825 How about High Lord of National Leisures?

    • @Matakshaman
      @Matakshaman Před 3 lety +3

      Hasn't worked for Sealand so it won't work for you

    • @johns9652
      @johns9652 Před 3 lety +4

      @@Matakshaman But you can get yourself a meaningless title of nobility from Sealand if you're willing to shell out 50-150 dollars on an amusing piece of paper.

  • @chuck8492
    @chuck8492 Před rokem

    That video was very informative and a pleasure to watch :)

  • @asparagoose8992
    @asparagoose8992 Před 3 lety

    Your voice is incredibly calming.

  • @argenisjrg
    @argenisjrg Před 3 lety +11

    Excellent explanation about Law of the Sea and flags of convenience! As a maritime lawyer I can tell you that this video is amazing for beginners 👏👏👏

  • @thegamerguyyt
    @thegamerguyyt Před 3 lety +4

    Can you do a video about ro ro vessels that operate in the baltic sea exempel of a company silja line love your videos, from sweden.

  • @Eddygeek18
    @Eddygeek18 Před 3 lety

    Thanks, was always curious about that

  • @albertohart5334
    @albertohart5334 Před rokem

    Excellent video thank you for the nice voice and informative info

  • @MrConcretejoE
    @MrConcretejoE Před 3 lety +9

    Is cabotage still a thing? I work as an airline pilot and there are some pretty stringent laws on that. Also, great channel. I have enjoyed all your videos so much. Extra points for the soothing british accent :D

    • @SINDRIKARL1
      @SINDRIKARL1 Před 3 lety

      Cabotage is generally not permitted by countries, with the European Union being a notable exception, with all member states granting Cabotage rights to each other.

    • @AlexandarHullRichter
      @AlexandarHullRichter Před 2 lety

      I'm not familiar with that word. What is cabotage?

    • @stuffzie8329
      @stuffzie8329 Před 2 lety +2

      @@AlexandarHullRichter In this case, the right to sail your ship in someone's territory.

    • @robman2095
      @robman2095 Před 2 lety +2

      @@AlexandarHullRichter Cabotage is the transporting of people or goods between two points within a country, often used in relation to the law or policy preventing foreign vessels from competing with local vessels in a country’s own waters

  • @thedudeabides3138
    @thedudeabides3138 Před 3 lety +3

    This was fascinating..
    Really well conceived and skilfully narrated with simple but effective animation.
    Thank you for taking the time to put this together for us.
    Immediate Sub.

  • @iyataitt2684
    @iyataitt2684 Před 3 lety +2

    Love your vids man!

  • @mvcharisma2968
    @mvcharisma2968 Před 3 lety +363

    ‘A country’s territory extends 12 nautical miles from its base line’
    Unless you’re China and see every country as your territory with their illegal fishing. Not to mention invading other countries island territories and building man-made islands to spread their love a little further

    • @ThZuao
      @ThZuao Před 3 lety +63

      Don't forget overfishing and destroying natural habitats, leaving the invaded nation to deal with the recovery (if it can even be done) and unemployed fishermen, all with the chinese navy within gun range.

    • @Eren-he5dt
      @Eren-he5dt Před 3 lety +40

      Chinese government is a bear who would kill everyone for a drop of honey.

    • @thomasautengruber8369
      @thomasautengruber8369 Před 3 lety +34

      And no one even bats an eye because „China is an important trading partner“

    • @drSvensen
      @drSvensen Před 3 lety +41

      @@thomasautengruber8369 People have started to defend China because of Trump. They feel like they must have the opposite view of Trump on everything.

    • @thomasautengruber8369
      @thomasautengruber8369 Před 3 lety +17

      @@drSvensen sad but true, eventhough he was the best thing to happen to the western world in some time.

  • @sirlagsalot8474
    @sirlagsalot8474 Před 3 lety +4

    UN : this is an EEZ
    China : you misspelled "My Territory"

  • @Me-eb3wv
    @Me-eb3wv Před 3 lety

    Great work keep it up!

  • @BuzzSargent
    @BuzzSargent Před 2 lety

    Well done show! 2nd time ever seeing your channel. Subscribed and Liked.

  • @19MAD95
    @19MAD95 Před 3 lety +8

    CZcams: “interesting Morocco you drew there, shame if we DEMONETIZED this video”

  • @jdsb-3707
    @jdsb-3707 Před 3 lety +4

    Yes. But you must include the phrase, “Guess what felony you’re all accessories to” must be included to be legal. - Bender.

  • @maffysdad
    @maffysdad Před 2 lety +2

    Wow, that was really interesting... I knew about the 12 mile thing (just googled, it's nautical miles, about 22 KM or 13 Mls), didn't know about the 24NM thing, had heard about the flag of convenience, but didn't know much about it other than tax reasons, wasn't fully aware about the rest of it, so yeah, learn something new every day...

  • @mikebikekite1
    @mikebikekite1 Před rokem

    It's weird, I never thought I had any interest in boats and I don't live near the sea but YT still presented me with your videos. I watch each of them absolutely fascinated. I've now subscribed! Should I buy a dinghy?

  • @JimmieHiggins
    @JimmieHiggins Před 2 lety +7

    At 6:52, I found it interesting you would show the disputed territory of Western Sahara as a part of Morocco. Just found it interesting and wanted to point out that it is disputed territory. My country, the USA, did not recognize the claim Morocco has made on the Western Sahara until recently when Morocco recognized the state of Israel. No criticism, just wanted to share this information. I do enjoy your videos.

  • @SwordQuake2
    @SwordQuake2 Před 3 lety +3

    Can you make a video about the recent blockage of the Suez canal?

  • @allisthemoist2244
    @allisthemoist2244 Před rokem

    OML THANK YOU FOR NOT BOTCHING THE UNDERSTANDING OF BASIC ECONOMICS. I am so used to needing to roll my eyes when people talk about implications of minimum wage that I was shocked that you understood them.

  • @OUTSIDER40
    @OUTSIDER40 Před 2 lety

    Interesting, thank you for making this video 👍

  • @justinelloydsupat4151
    @justinelloydsupat4151 Před 3 lety +4

    👋 Hi from Philippines

  • @napoleonibonaparte7198
    @napoleonibonaparte7198 Před 3 lety +25

    The PRC: “What laws?”

  • @xjAlbert
    @xjAlbert Před 2 lety

    Eye-opening information!

  • @jasonplant5432
    @jasonplant5432 Před 3 lety

    Oh I learned so much from this video.
    So,so, thank you.

  • @chrisalex001
    @chrisalex001 Před rokem +3

    I like how the Yankee country is the United States, and Zulu is Panama. Even Zulu's flag resembles Panama's flag abstractly.

    • @autumnberend828
      @autumnberend828 Před rokem

      Didn't notice, I figured it was a reference to the real Zulu name, the African tribe that is often known for its fight with the British, led by Shaka. But, you point out something I hadn't even considered.

    • @jannikgotpanick1469
      @jannikgotpanick1469 Před rokem

      ​@@autumnberend828 Yankee and Zulu represents Y and Z.

  • @Atlantjan
    @Atlantjan Před 3 lety +8

    It just dawned on me that this might be the reason why Malta doesn't have a higher minimum wage, even though our cost of living is astronomically higher than the monthly minimum. Entire fleets of cruise ships are registered as "Maltese"

    • @PrezVeto
      @PrezVeto Před 3 lety +2

      Probably not, as Maltese law could simply dictate a different, lower minimum wage applicable to ships if they wanted to.

    • @ArcDemonStudio
      @ArcDemonStudio Před 2 lety +2

      @@PrezVeto nope, not really, that would create very dangerous precedence, are you saying that ppl working in ships are lesser ppl to those working on land and this deserve smaller wadge, super easy discrimination case

    • @PrezVeto
      @PrezVeto Před 2 lety

      @@ArcDemonStudio By "could" I was signalling that I was talking about possibility, not desirability.

  • @jameseddy6835
    @jameseddy6835 Před rokem

    Some new info some old. Well prepared. Keep up the good work.

  • @alwaysbearded1
    @alwaysbearded1 Před 3 lety +1

    Interesting. I thought you would talk about navigation law; Colregs vs. Inland rules for instance or discuss the different bouyage systems in different parts of the world. This is also an interesting topic.

  • @JKTCGMV13
    @JKTCGMV13 Před 3 lety +3

    Having 3 miles of border because it was the range of your cannon sounds a lot less like a nice political boundary and a lot more like people just not wanting to be shot lol

  • @marck717
    @marck717 Před 2 lety +14

    That was a very interesting video. So I have a question. Elon Musk has designed a new rocket called Starship, but the FAA has been holding up his launch license for months. He started construction on a sea launch platform. My question is, if he registers the platform with another country and brings it into international waters, can he launch without FAA approval?

    • @electricaviationchannelvid7863
      @electricaviationchannelvid7863 Před 2 lety +5

      Yes he can. I think hat is why the Electron rocket launch is in New Zealand although the company is mostly in the USA I suspect...

    • @davidmurphy9151
      @davidmurphy9151 Před rokem

      His rockets are almost completely funded by the US federal government so..

    • @zephyr8072
      @zephyr8072 Před rokem

      Elon Musk doesn’t design anything. The people working under him who he underpays and treats like garbage do.

  • @derHutschi
    @derHutschi Před 2 lety +1

    great video :-)
    side note: if a military vessel docks in a foreign port the pier from the first line to the last line is (for the duration of the docking) territory of the ships country (like embassy grounds)

  • @billyhgunn
    @billyhgunn Před rokem

    I was one of the cruises from San Diego to Hawaii, And i do remember that after boarding in San Diego, we had to stop in mexico to "Pick up supplies" before heading to Hawaii.

    • @carlgharis7948
      @carlgharis7948 Před rokem

      Ya that's because they can't go directly from 1 U.S. port to another U.S. port without being subject to U.S. labor laws

  • @threethrushes
    @threethrushes Před 3 lety +4

    Admiral Kuznetsov: I didn't choose the tug life, the tug life chose me.

  • @martinstent5339
    @martinstent5339 Před 3 lety +4

    00:48 Suggesting that Morocco and the occupied part of Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic are one country wasn’t a very good choice. You could have at least chosen a country which is universally recognised as being a single legitimate sovereign state, like Spain and France, or USA and Canada for example.

  • @theworkshopwhisperer.5902

    I remember hearing a while ago that a big frozen food business found a way round the Jones act in America. Somewhere in the fine print of the act it says "If your produce has been on a Canadian railroad you can do it internal port deliveries without being under the flag of the United states." So they made like 100 metres of railway they then got it recognised as a Canadian railroad. Just drive the trucks up onto the single flatbed car run it back and forth with a shunting engine don't even secure the load and that's it you can ship using whatever flag you want. There's always a way round everything.

  • @antoinebonnet4340
    @antoinebonnet4340 Před 3 lety +1

    Nice vid !
    Just to nitpick: at 1:20, what matters is actually how far a ship's weapons can bombard the coast from, not the other way around.

  • @johnholwell9514
    @johnholwell9514 Před 2 lety +7

    The flag of convenience thing is the reason nearly all super yachts are registered in the Camen Islands. It's a way the mega rich avoid having to have to pay a huge tax bill.

  • @mr.reason4414
    @mr.reason4414 Před 3 lety +9

    Wouldn't a "Zulu" ship need to pay their staff $20 an hour for every hour spent in "Yankee" territorial waters?

    • @irok1
      @irok1 Před 3 lety +2

      4:50

    • @alfhaugenorheim4261
      @alfhaugenorheim4261 Před 3 lety +3

      sadly, no

    • @wayward03
      @wayward03 Před 3 lety +4

      Minimum wage is not a useful law.

    • @0623kaboom
      @0623kaboom Před 3 lety

      the flag the ship is registered under makes if sovereign territory of THAT country ... and as such subject to ALL of it's rules .... they dont get to pick and choose what rules they are going to follow they must follow all the rules as set out by the flag of the country they are registered with ...

    • @argenisjrg
      @argenisjrg Před 3 lety +2

      If the ship is just sailing through their territorial sea, no. However, there is a thing called "Port State Control". If a "Zulu" flagged ship is docked in a port of "Yankee" State, the authorities of the latter can survey the ship; and if they find out that the labour conditions are precarious, they are entitled prevent the ship from sailing until the workers have better conditions on board. Most countries do that based on the Maritime Labour Convention.
      Sailing is often prevented because of other reasons too, for instance, the ship is not properly manned or maintained, its certificates have expired, etc. Those circumstances (including bad labour conditions) make a ship unseaworthy.

  • @jarrettvdb5916
    @jarrettvdb5916 Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks for the info, I was wondering why so many ships sail under the Panama flag and now I realise that Panama is most likely the flag of convenience.

  • @emperorkarlfranzprinceofal1465

    your videos are some of the comfiest I've ever seen on youtube

  • @lwc3648
    @lwc3648 Před 3 lety +4

    First video I've seen of yours. Glad to see your like dislike ratio is how it should be for such an educational video. Ty

    • @crazydinosaur8945
      @crazydinosaur8945 Před rokem +1

      "see your like dislike ratio" a comment from before the dark times

    • @lwc3648
      @lwc3648 Před rokem

      @@crazydinosaur8945 yeah indeed. I was just referring to how it was a very well educated video that hadn't had the bots attack the dislike thumb :)

  • @kalumbailey5103
    @kalumbailey5103 Před 3 lety +3

    Swapping flags for money is too prevalent these days, my granddad was in the royal navy in ww2, my dads been working on trawlers since the 60s/70s but i have no chance of getting on a civilian ship because they just hire poles and eastern europeans these days because they don't have to pay them half as much as a brit.

    • @gbnq2513
      @gbnq2513 Před 3 lety +2

      No, they don't have to pay 'brits' more because you are a Brit. They will pay you the same wages as they do to those 'Poles and eastern Europeans' on the ship - which will amount to peanuts, as per the Flag of Convenience Country's labor laws. So point is, would you work for peanuts? Not likely.

    • @pcpeasantry3008
      @pcpeasantry3008 Před 2 lety +1

      @@gbnq2513 also the 'peanuts' you call here have different value to 'brits' and different value to 'poles and eastern europeans' because life is cheaper in other countries and more expensive in others. So the 'peanuts' might be a high enough salary for someone in another country to live off and for you it wont be enough for neccessary needs

  • @adrianmillard6598
    @adrianmillard6598 Před 3 lety

    You have a really nice narration style and voice.

  • @sniffadoghq
    @sniffadoghq Před 3 lety +1

    Out of curiosity what do you use to do your animation it's phenomenal. Love all your videos thank you 😊

  • @emmahkhoza3434
    @emmahkhoza3434 Před rokem +4

    I love how you used Zulu as an example, btw Zulu is one of the most spoken languages in South Africa🇿🇦

    • @kennywilkinson913
      @kennywilkinson913 Před rokem +1

      Not in the least bit subtle was it?
      May as well have said whites and blacks lol

    • @iinob
      @iinob Před rokem +2

      @@kennywilkinson913 They're also the phonetic versions of Y and Z, the last 2 letters of the alphabet. Unless the alphabet's racist now, I don't think this video has any sort of "hidden" meaning

    • @kennywilkinson913
      @kennywilkinson913 Před rokem

      @@iinob As is alpha and bravo and as I recall any alphabet begins at the beginning
      jog on.