They Just Fell Off?
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In this video, we investigate what happened to the Ever Smart during a container loss incident.
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“Why did the container fall off?”
“Well, a wave hit it.”
“Is that unusual?”
“At sea? Chance in a million!”
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At least the front didn't fall off.
But did the front fall off?
Reminds or the old Far Side cartoon where the airplane passenger is fumbling for their seat recline button, and accidentally turns the _WINGS STAY ON_ switch to the _WINGS FALL OFF_ setting.
Evergreen is the gift that keeps on giving for shipping mishap fans
I doubt they have any more mishaps than other shipping companies. They just have a larger operation. It's probably just proportional. Plus they're also world famous now. So we look more closely.
@@PrivateMemo Nah, whether your approach pans out or not, the fact is: Evergreen being publicly famous means any arbitrary ship can be made instantly recognizable as “huge container ship.” This channel for example uses the “Ever [topical joke]” format for various ships on a number of videos about other companies.
"boats? Ew..."
@@Rishnai But looking at the accident report this actually was the "Ever Smart"...
You could say it's... Ever Given
... I'll leave now
This reminds me of:
"Delivery status: the package fell into the ocean."
'Status: Lost in translation'
Delivery update: we threw it in the creak!
Reminder: Package thrown into Mount Doom to vanquish the evil lord
Be advised: suez canal is blocked again, wait up bozo
When you see the gps location of the parcel in the ocean, it might actually be true XD
Huh, these animations are great, but seeing them all followed up by an image of the actual containers at the end in the report really gave a sense of "realness" to it when contrasted by the animations. I'd like to see images of damages like that in future videos (of course, contrasted by the amazing animation)
"she was a 300 meter long container vessel"
length: 399.99m
*well, you're not wrong*
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Technically correct, which is what we all know the best kind of correct.
"I'm in my 30's.."
birthday: tomorrow
That was before the front fell off
I have no connection with shipping but I watch every one of your videos because you explain things so clearly!
Everyone has a connection with shipping.
Listening to a voice explaining something is hypnotizing, then I go to sleep. It’s like fairy tales for grown ups.
"I have never had anything shipped either... truckers are useless to me.
I've never been to a grocery store." - Gerarda
@@killercuddles7051 Perhaps I need to clarify that I have no PROFESSIONAL connection with shipping. As a consumer, I am very much aware that many items I use on a daily basis have been shipped from somewhere.
For those interested in learning more about trucking, I recommend a CZcams channel called Trucker Josh Vlogs. Josh is an experienced trucker from Manitoba, Canada who has been vlogging almost daily for a decade. His latest vlog shows him stranded by weather in a small community in northern Manitoba.
@@gerardacronin334 lol. I'm just clowning, but that channel sounds boring as hell
I thought the "ever smart" on the thumbnail was going to be a ever given joke but apparently the whole ever fleet is just cursed
Spare a thought for the crew of the "Ever Floating".
@@JamieBainbridge The new unsinkable "Ever Sunken"!
Beware the "Ever Menace".
stay far away from the "Ever Maritime Disaster Resulting in 3,000 Deaths And Billions Lost In Profits"
I mean, the Evergreen Marine Corporation (part of the overall Evergreen Group) IS the 4th or 5th largest shipping company in the world with over 150 container ships so it's to be expected if there's an accident in the shipping world that one of their ships might be involved.
Also, their accidents have done good, like when one of their ships, the Ever Laurel, lost a container with 28,800 rubber ducks called Friendly Floatees. The container somehow broke open and the horde of ducks were released into the ocean. This happened in the middle of the Pacific and allowed people to study the currents of the ocean better than they normally could've. Last I knew, they were still being recovered over a decade later as far away as the US Eastern Seaboard.
In 2019, the 395m "MSC Zoe" lost 342 containers in the North Sea, after experiencing fast and heavy rolling for several hours. Much of the cargo washed up on the shores of Dutch and German islands, causing considerable environmental damage. The joint investigation could find no breach of loading regulations. But it suggests that the relevant IMO codes may have not kept up with the development of ultra large container ships and should be updated. In particular, ULCS may be due to their high stiffness, or metacenter height, be particularly prone to short-period rolling, and thereby experience dynamic loads in excess of what the cargo securing mechanisms were designed for. I'd post the link but it seems like youtube will then hide this comment :(
@The Joker - didn't take your meds today, hu?
First very german of you second Americans are too dumb to know to hide this comment you give us too much credit we don’t rule the world by being smart we do it with all the money
This is something of a test comment. Before writing this, there are 3 replies, and I wondered if they were the link you reference. When I click to expand however, nothing happens. No comments load, the arrow changes to indicate expansion, but no further space is used on screen. I'm thinking that might lend credence to my theory about the links, so I'm replying to see if mine will load.
Edit: Mine loaded, but no other replies popped up along side it. Just trying to learn yt's weird little quirks. Thanks for indulging :)
Edit 2: I know some channels use filters or something of the like to auto moderate their comments section, and I know I've seen comments with links before, even recently, so I have to wonder if it's a yt thing, or a channel decision. Perhaps to filter out spam I imagine.
@@balover2010 - I've given up on posting links on youtube, but if you spend a few minutes on a web search for "MSC Zoe joint investigation report" I'm confident you will find it.
@@balover2010 I do not see your comment with a link. Reply count says "5", but a can see only 2 replies. Maybe this is the way of CZcams to hide unwanted comments: author can see it, but no one else can.
The moral is never include "ever" in your ship's name.
Yeah never ever!
It's ever cursed.
Never smart
If you aren't familiar, that is how Evergreen names their fleet. They have something like 200 container ships, and they are generally in certain letter classes, so for example the Ever Given is part of their G-class, which are 11 identical ships with names like Ever Golden, Ever Genius, Ever Gentle, etc. The Ever Smart is part of their S-class, etc. I think the only ships in their fleet that don't use the name scheme are those that were built for other shipping companies and were either bought or leased by Evergreen.
@@Tinil0 I know, it's just a silly joke.
I would be so stressed out captaining a ship with that name. Any mistakes you make gain instant irony. Too much pressure to be smart all the time haha
I work in passenger vessels, not cargo, but when I got into the maritime field I did a stint on a container vessel. I was told, when loading, if you MUST fill a stack with containers under those numbers, always order them sequentially. Using the numbers here it should've been, from bottom-top: 9.6, 9.4, 9.3, 9.1, 8.2, 7.4, 4.8, 4.8. that is, of course, if the containers are declared properly. Or weighed prior to loading.
Random spot checks and fines for miss declared weights would help solve a lot of problems. If the fines are big enough you don’t have to check that many containers. Checking 1 in 10 containers with a $1000 fine, no one will care. Check 1 in 1000 containers with $500,000 fine, shippers will up their own checks real fast.
Whenever I see your container ship animations I am immediately reminded of an old Amiga game called "Ports of Call". I loved that game so much. :)
Dude, I loved that game, too! A friend of mine in high school owned that game and we'd play it for hours. Good times. 😃
@@grondhero 🥰
i wish the newer versions were on steam
I was really expecting to hear “Now the Eversmart in this case was actually pretty Everdumb”
They should probably re-name it now. Just add an N to the beginning of Ever Smart.
I'm very glad to see you cover this incident so well! I brought it up in a couple comments on your twistlocks video. This video did a perfect job of summarizing all the major factors discussed in the MAIB report
Channel is a fascinating window into an under appreciated activity, and the presentation and graphics are spot on.
This particular incident seems such a classic combination of tiny mistakes resulting in a failure. I wonder what the consequences were for the people responsible, if at all.
The stacking of heavier loads on top looks almost like a deliberate act. But then imagine the conditions of the workers loading these ships 247365. The pressure to hit schedules must be relentless.
I love your videos! Great graphics, and fantastic research! 🙌🙌
The solution is of course simple, tying containers together not just in stacks but in grids, 2D across stacks or even 3D across rows. But that would mean a lot more work during loading and unloading, and it would be trickier to mix regular and high cube containers.
A small price to pay instead of losing containers.
@@peacepipe6695 while yes it sounds small in theory, you have to remember that if you were to do this on every ship in the fleet and on every single voyage, the cost that came from tying _that_ many containers gonna stack the longer you have to stay in port, essentially negating the increased profit of _not_ losing said containers, plus, you also have to remember that this container lost situations happens mostly on bad weather, container ships generally didn't sail trough a storm and even if they do, they try to avoid the worst of it, and this scenario can be taken more as a rare occurence despite being a more common occurence statistics wise
@@twddersharkmarine7774 only 5% of US recycle is actually recycled. US still ships recycle off to Europe or Chi... that one place.. And on the way there those ships might 'lose' containers... Hmmm ?
@@peacepipe6695 bruh what are you talking about
Excuse my complete noviceness, but would it not be possible for the loading cranes to automatically weigh the containers are they're loaded? Is that not a thing?
also a novice here, but i don't think you can accurately weigh the containers as they're being loaded because the movements of the crane and the container will influence the measured weight. when it is measured, it has to be still. the crane operator themselves would also be pressed for time and have less incentive to practically shut down operation for a minute for every new container load, while it is being weighed and recorded.
@@Nate9273 For some reason I figured it'd be inline using a load meter of some kind, which I seem to remember many "normal" cranes have. I mean, accuracy might be not great but it would still seem like a good idea. *shrug*
Great idea but i don't think that would help. altho what do I know, it might be a revolutionary idea.
Good question, I wonder that myself.
Well, in theory, if you know the efficiency of your crane motor and the friction of the cable drum, you can caluclate the weight of every container just by watching the crane motor's ampere meter.
The heavier the container, the more juice the crane will need to lift it.
Not sure how well that would work in practice though...
That was surprisingly interesting, I'm glad I clicked something completely out of my usual area of interest! Very well narrated and explained! 👍
Just had your channel recommended by CZcams because I watch practical engineering, glad I clicked. No interest in shipping but you make it interesting!👌🏻👍🏻
Subscribed 😉
The shorter rods should be shown as double lashed and the longer rods at the end usually will have a short extension rod added to it to make it long enough to be lashed. Even with everything lashed correctly the turnbuckles can become loose while in rough seas.
nerd
@@lookstothetroon who ,your "gaming" channel?
@@something7432 chinglish
Longer rods are called 3rd height bars and they should have been double lashed on the out of the ship. But as the boxes on the outside had the wrong weight centre then they wouldn’t have done nothing.
@@peterlfc1387 We call them 3 high rods.
They needed a dad there to slap the top of it and say "Welp, that's not going anywhere".
I work at the port of Baltimore and incorrect shipping weights is a big problem, also high cubes or low cubes it doesn't matter the lashing rods fit using an adjustable turnbuckle. The loading port simply didn't do their job
Not only that, ships crew would have signed the lash plan as checked and done.
Very clear and informative video. I’m again slightly surprised that the ship (or the crane loading) doesn’t capture the actual weight or the container as it goes onto the ship. I can imagine they might be less interested in over-declared weights but is there no penalty for under-declaration?
Keep up the great work 😀👍
I think it may just take too long, If almost all of the container stacks on that column were overweight, and the bottoms were underweight, that means redoing the entire plan after they spent probably hours or days configuring a proper load plan.
@@pauldeddens5349 .. while I agree time is of the essence when the ship is in port, containers arrive at dockside sporadically in the days/weeks prior. Plenty of opportunity to prep before the ship arrives.
@@CTCTraining1 they scale the trailers before entering the port.
Remove the tare weight of the truck/trailer and you have an exact weight of the container.
Anyone that says they don't know the actual weight of containers has never been involved in stevedoring
I'm gonna assume my ps5 is now at the bottom of the pacific ocean
I feel like these container ships are getting too big. More and more seem to be having accidents as the size gets bigger and bigger
Just imagine the amount of containers in the bottoms of the ocean this may not be the last time.
I've heard of container ships carrying rifles to more quickly sink containers that have fallen off (a few holes will increase air out/water in) .
If they don't sink, they can be a collision risk for other vessels
@@RJ-wx3fh you would need something pretty substantial to put a hole in those shipping containers.
Ahhh I always get good content and learn some new stuff here. I'm almost the biggest landcrab you can imagine, so this channel always teaches me something new and interesting about real situations out at sea. Keep at it!
It’s amazing these boxes of metal can float but are insanely dangerous because they’re so difficult to see because they float just beneath the surface
What got you into making these videos? Do you have current/former maritime experience ? In the family? Let us get to know you @casualnavigation :)
He's said a few times that he worked on many ships in different positions but I can't remember if he ever said what he did specifically.
Well technically the whole ship is a floating metal box, so...
20ft container sea mines!
@@beeble2003 Of course it is. How do you think submarines work?
As a matter of fact most shipping containers will not float on the oceans surface, but instead just below it. This presents a potential hazard to other ships as a collision may damage the hull. There are special purpose ships that fish these containers out of the water
@@Immortal.. Submarines work mostly by being actively controlled.
[I've deleted the rest of my comment, as it was incorrect. I'd forgotten the effect of pressure changes with depth.]
I love how the port of Taipei graphic has the word Taipei written in like the Olive garden font on what looks like a restaurant lol
Motion of the ocean that one made me giggle
High cubes are ubiquitous and it's hard to see how that could have been the reason. And not only the so called wind lashing you can have double lashing as well, using the holes at the top of the container underneath. It's hard to imagine such fundamental errors for such well understood phenomenon.
The loose lashing in other bays could have been due to flexing at sea as they are all supposed to be checked and in my experience always were.
I been a member of a lashing crew waiting with the others at the top of the gangway many times, waiting for the mate to sign off that the lashing is completed properly.
I 'll have a look at the report.
I just had a look at the lashing plan and you can see the double lashing on the fourth tier.
Also it seem I was wrong about the wind lashing. I had never seen such a thing. Also corroded twist locks like would not be used where I worked.
Planes have fallen out of the sky because the maintenance person used the wrong tape. I don't think it's that hard to believe that high Cubes, mixed with the other issues, lead to this accident.
@@fearsomefawkes6724
Which planes were those? Tape is not allowed in any structural area or any really vital area so I don't actually believe you.
Exceptionally well done.
Thank you.
Amazing video, your videos never fail to impress, and I love your style of making them. 😀
Ever green most famous shipping company
Didn't know what I was going to get when I clicked on this, but it was actually informative!
Imagine the sound that must have made for the crew down in the hold when those containers went!
That was very interesting. Thank you!
Beautiful Analysis & Presentation.
Outstanding narration, very clear and easy to understand
5 yrs ago, my brother, a sailor, now he is a vice captain, told me that his former captain stole 3 containers full of iphone, cloth and hardware. I thought he were joke but watching your video now, I realized that they must have blame the ocean
Dont blame yor brother anyway hv u got iphones to sell?
Thanks for sharing.
Very interesting. Thanks for sharing this with us.
It would have been interesting to hear if this incident produced any changes in load planning or handling of high containers.
We can easily forget the perils inherent in ocean shipping and that deck cargo is also carried by other types of vessels.
Knowing business they probably concluded that losing 40 containers was worth shoddy practice
@@arenalife probably not, actually
Question. what happens insurance wise? or for people who were waiting for items in those now lost containers?
Also, what happens if some of those containers wash up ashore somewhere?
Many (if not most) lost containers just sink to the bottom, depending on the contents. Especially if lost in the middle of an ocean. I think Casual Navigation made a video on they very topic a while back.
@@fredbloggs8072Is this the video your talking about? czcams.com/video/kyH47LHgeNc/video.html
@@fredbloggs8072 cool. I just did a look and found "What Happens To Lost Containers?" and it was a good vid to see.
I read a news article this week about all the expensive coolers washing up in Alaska!
This is what exactly what i wanted answer for. Thank you so much. There is a missing structural lock that can prevent a sideways tip of the upper boxes. The lower boxes are accounted for but this upper ones are on the loose for the side tip. You might want to address that.
Love this vid! Thanks!
What did the containers that fell in the sea have in them? I imagine a lot of diverse things, but did they contain something priceless like art, rare vintage items, historical artefacts, or maybe something particularly dangerous/poluting? Or just thousands of TVs?
*Puts on tinfoil hat*
People! The cargo was people!
@@stylesrj That would be actually horrifying if one of those containers did have people that were trying to smuggle themselves into the country. That would be a terrible way to go. Of course the only way to ever figure that out would be to go where the containers fell and investigate them.
@@GANTZ100ptsyea at first I thought maybe a shipment of animals but then realized there could’ve even been people in those containers which is way more petrifying
@@GANTZ100pts Idk, i think they would die from the force of the container hitting the water, not drowning so it would probably not be that bad of a way to go.
Interesting to know. I will get additional training on with container i should use for delivery including by ship next week-end. I will be able to ask smart question since most of the container we use are Hi-cube but we do have regular one.
Great video, thanks!
This is the reason why your package failed to arrive
Always learn so much on every video,. Thanks
you are a cool dude with interesting information. thanks for sharing.
Thanks again for making in depth analysis of a real event accessible and understandable. You may not improve the safety of my adventures as an armchair navigator but you certainly make them more enjoyable..
A really great narration and vid
I demand that you make a video about the Friendly Floatees spill of 1992. It also involves Evergreen.
I wonder if strain gages can be included in cranes so that if containers are too heavy they can be detected.
Yeh they could do that pretty easily i think, the container weight will be directly proportional to the power needed to lift the container which is already measured by the electric whinch
Most container crane have gage who give you exact weight of the container,the second you lift it off the ground.
Source: I'm a crane operator
Hello capt,I love your videos 🎥
those guys sleeping in the ship while it is rocking are insane, like I would be turning my insides out in an hour of that.
Seamen and women are a different breed, it takes guts to face mother nature in her home field.
It's not so bad when you stay in bed. The interesting nights are the ones where you get thrown out of bed and have several main engine failures in a night.
@@gamma7897 thanks for the nightmare fuel.
I think its a eventually get used to it kinda thing
That why shipping a container above the deck is cheaper than below!
Great video!
300 meter long container vessel 😯 Imagine being in charge of that kind of a monster!
This does explain all the crabs observed using circuit-breaker enclosures as shells mid-Pacific.
I didn't know about that but its kinda funny, atleast something has a use for all our pollution. (Other than scientists who often track highly boyant lost cargo like rubber ducks to map ocean currents. They have a known release point and time, and a known discovery date and time, and are usually easily identifiable which makes them easy to track, and now we know water from the north Pacific can make it into the Med by going through the Arctic.)
@@jasonreed7522 Just a joke-sorry. Crabs are typically very particular about the size of their shells, and they have to be transportable, so though Taiwan makes a lot of electrical gear sold in the US, whatever was in the containers is unlikely to be useful to others. Dozens of containers sitting at the bottom is a significant waste and polluting of the environment there and the reports don’t even discuss this or their actual contents.
How do they check those containers? Do they perform some kind of load test? Or is it a visible inspection? Another thing, is if someone just pencil whipped the inspect how would the investor find out? I've seen where companies try to cut cost by not doing what they are supposed to do, look at that new horizon oil spill.
The container cranes do have a scale to weigh the container. Matter of fact, the crane operator uses the weight to judge how to fly the containers into the bays in a smooth motion.
@@AaronShenghao The trouble with finding out the weight of the containers as they are being loaded is that it is generally too late to do anything about the weight of the container due to the time pressures of loading. The problem of overweight and or miss declared containers is universal and has to be tackled before the containers enter the transport system. Shippers who make a habit of being overweight or miss declared need to be penalised repeatedly because their behaviour puts other people's lives in danger.
Just a small point, she's 299.99m not 399.99m as in the graphics.
Such high quality! gj
Why ser Evergreen Marines ships so often in trouble? Is it simply because they are the biggest and has the most ships that can get into trouble, or are they just more accident prone for whatever reason?
Almost certainly just because they're a very large company. Add to that the fame of _Ever Given_ and confirmation bias: every time you hear of an Evergreen ship getting into trouble, you think "Not them again!"
they are the most noticable
Bruh imagine the noise the people heard. It would be like, really loud. Those poor workers on deck must have never went outside for weeks afterwards.
Nice animation on the weather map 👌
Have you heard about all the yeti coolers washing up on Alaskan shores from containers falling off?
We always checked this, we got the loading information, and a lot of times it was incorrect and we manually adjust the loading program. Also we used way more lashing bars then I saw in this vid. They even maked a lot of mistakes during loading and we had to correct them. If you allow all these small mistakes it can be very dangerous. Also the pitching is a bad thing to, they should alter course to avoid slamming in the waves. Rolling is better then pitching. 10 to 12 degrees is nothing to be honest, that's easy peasy. 40 45 degrees now that's something.
Btw we also checked the lashing while sailing if bad weather was coming. Everything can vibrate loose. Oh man these guys can't sail anymore.
Excellent explanation! How do you do these realistic graphics? They are outstanding. Thank you for your great content.
I must say, your content is amazing, everything about it is so great.
I think you should start a secondhand channel and put everything your intrested in that isnt connected to ships.
Or, just make a video about ships everyday, but I imagine the topics will be harder to find. Go strong you can work with this fulltime if you want to ❤️
Ever Smart is a name that just invites an extremely ironic incident
damn how much stuff is in the ocean right now up for grabs.
Taht's where my Alibiba order went !!
I am a ship novice. By watching these videos I finally know the difference between port and starboard. So forgive me if the answer to this question is obvious. On the breakdown of the container weights the bottom was supposed to be 30.5 but actually was 9.6. Wouldn't the loading cranes be able to weigh every container? I always assumed that the computers in cranes told the operators the weight of the load. It would seem very dangerous to rely on declared weight when lifting with a crane.
“It’s a 300 meter long container vessel” the text says it’s 399.99 meters though
Yeah, I have a feeling it tends to be improper loading with things like this.
Seeing that the ship's length is 399.99m, I've got to ask: Is there some legal reason why they didn't want it to be 400m? It just seems way too specific.
I have modelled the weight and moment of "jettisonable" stores on aircraft. You gotta be careful! ;)
maybe that's why I never got my package from there🤣
watching that ship in your animation rock and move like that makes sense but then you realize that that ship is the size of a skyscraper
Sounds like a new adventure for some loot
Hypothetically, if the containers did not rip off the ship due to improper weight distribution/latch security, would the tilt be enough to capsize the ship? Like would the containers being able to disengage actually help survive a brutal storm?
It must be extremely difficult and complicated to organize thousands of containers by size and weight as they arrive, are stacked, and loaded aboard awaiting vessels.
they have these things called computers which help with that
@@yourmum69_420 Show me a reliable computer. I haven't seen one in 20 years.
The hi cube containers should not have been stacked such that they were over the correct height. The second problem has to do with the incorrectly loaded container weights in the wrong place in the stack. Both of these, in my opinion, contributed to the containers falling off the ship.
"Soooo where's your package?"
"It just fell off into the ocean."
Ah, something similar to this happened to the Bioincle collection my Mom bought me in 2011 for 20 dollars.
I'm a fan of the Big Crane brand loaders.
Reminds me of the mishap in Madagascar movie
Fell off + ratio + no containers
Those containers had nothing but amiibos on them for sure lol 😆
Spongebob and Patrick chillin' with their new clothes and equipment. Plus bigger, much bigger houses.
The ".. Motion of the ocean.." 😎 👍
And the angle of the dangle...
Was this the ship that had those rubber ducks in some of the fallen containers, and managed to prove a model of ocean currents?
What were inside those lost containers?
I must have missed out on this episode of South Park
I really don't know anything when it comes to container ships and loading. However, watching this video, I got the impression that the containers are not tied together sideways. If they would have tied them together on the top from one side to the other, there would be no way that a single stack could fall off.