The TRUE War Thunder Experience: La-9
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try playing the Swedish b-18b, it super OP, even the wiki agrees that its OP, it says "The aircraft performs extremely well, and can outrun anything. Its turn time is good, can out-turn most twin-engine fighters. It has a really good rate of climb and an excellent dive speed. The only issue with the flight performance is that it bleeds energy when you have the payload options strapped on", it also says "The B18B is a really good aircraft in all game modes", the way I play it is to play air RB, use its insane speed to bomb one of the bases as soon as possible, stay at about 6 kilometers while bombing, then turn around going to where everyone is dogfighting, stay at 6 kilometers up as you want to have the altitude advantige but dont go any higher than 6 kilometers as the plane starts to rapidly lose performince, but if you go lower, then you won't have the altitude advantage, then once you are over the battlfield, just fly it like a Bf-110, and the best part is, you get all this and the plane is at 3.0, .7 below the Bf-110, I grinded out the entire swedish tech tree using only this plane in about 2 weeks.
@@Zachattack-ot2un 6km? You climb up with that thing?
@@thisisnotaname4960 yea it has the same engines as the bf109 if im not mistaken
Don't insult people who use the AA defensively. Both teams have it, it's simply a game mechanic and it's the attackers fault for fighting over the AA in the first place.
I have my birthday tomorrow and my friends will gift me some premium packs
"My Tempest friend goes after AI because that's what you do when you have multiple enemies on your tail" lol
it do be like that tho I had this one game in my sabre it was me and a friendly j29d I was using suffer sabre so the a-5 sabre anyways when we saw the last dude was a mig 15bis-ish which can easily outperform me the dude when for ground pound as me and the mig were dog fighting right at level ground for about 2 minutes he took 1 gun run at the mig missed and I clutched it when though I shouldn't have won I did
one time in my F4U-4B i got damaged by a bomber that i ignored so i had to go and rtb, and a spitfire, and a yak tailed me all the way to the ground
im running away barely able to keep up, and i see an A-26 infront of me
so i shoot down this A-26 and the damaged A-26 corpse rams into the yak AND nicks the spitfire enough to take off his wingtip
Honestly, he probably thought "Fuck it, I'm going to die anyway, might as well get some extra rp in."
Remember kids, "All warfare is based........." - Sun Tzu
"We win these" - Sun Tzu
u forgot the "on deception" part
@@thebirbestbirb nah sun tzu never said that, he said all warfare is based.
@@Koyomix86 no he said "all warfare is based on deception"
@@thebirbestbirb sun tzu I said that all warfare is based, and he is right war is based
"I like winning, but I don't like winning like a little bitch."
Oh boy, if only 90% of the War Thunder community agreed on that, I might not want to put a bullet in my head whenever I play this game.
like the ass in the chat playing Germany saying they suffer then are either strafing u on a the airfield then say gg ez hate those people
A win’s a win lad
@@cutthroat795 you disgust me
As some wise man once said “play lame, win game”
Camping and your team being "TankerTrash-dying-in-5mn" go in pairs...
My experience with the La9: I either completely dunk on suckers or I get dunked on like a sucker. There is no in between
I get dunked on by jets or f2gs
IMO, La-9 does not belong to that battle rating. And cost of grinding is just... humongous.
@@Burboss it will dominate at 5.3, it's pretty fast and it retains energy really well. And it has a high rip speed, so it's pretty much a la-7/yak3 that can actually dive.
In a rate fight it can beat almost everything it faces, except zeros ofc.
N3GEL reporting for duty. Great games spit!
Your squadron annoys me to no end and the j6k1 wipes the floor with the la-9 and yaks
@@huyra8019 ok
@@huyra8019 ok
@@Xiphactinus ok
@@lka2310 ok
"Hiding behind AAA is being pussy"
-Spit_Flyer
VVS(Soviet Air Force):Really?
PVO(Soviet Air Defense Forces):Really?
Yep tell that when you're alone against 5 people when you're in an 8.3 jet which gets only 9.3 games.
AAA is a necessary bad thing because some players would strafe the airport in some maps.
“now, i can’t be taking head-ons against this guy, so i spray my 23 mils and get a nice critical hit”
never change, spit
I’m getting crits at 1.5km with 7.62mm.
Be accurate and patient. I usually fire before the reticule registers and I’ve destroyed many aircraft this way.
@@loganthesaint ab player spotted
@@loganthesaint found the arcade player
The AAA is so inconsistent at times, i don't know whether to fear them, or not. The enemy seems to live and dodge every single shot, while i get pilotsniped in 1 hit.
In my experience forward airbase AA is 10x deadlier than main base AA, it’s stupid when you think about it.
In some maps AAA just snipe your engine, in other it is braindead shooting.
There is one stand out about the LA9: the firepower.
It's among the absolute top for piston engines (used to be no1), and when using FI-T belts you can bring down even heavy bombers with very short bursts, as the shells have very high individual dmg, and the RoF is high from the four guns. You can see plenty of examples in this video, with very short burst giving crits or kills with good reliability.
When it comes to the rest it has been powercrept. It used to be pretty good at climbing (still not bad imo) certainly among the best in the russian piston tree, with "not bad" turn.
"the spitfire is probably out of ammo because spitfire" lmaoooo
Every time I see a spitfire going for a heavy bomber I just shake my head, especially if there is a friendly heavy fighter nearby.
There are plenty of people that notwithstanding the AAA even on prop tiers will happily banzai you on your airfield when you land and are prepared to conceed defeat with your plane in one piece.
The fact that there is no "safe" zone in top tier (due to ineffectiveness of AAA against Mach 1 jets) only ensures that the loosing team looses ALL their vehicles... thank you GJN for all the love.
I wish theyd add playable SAM launchers. If you can use aircrsft in ground battles for no skill easy kills in groujd RB its only fair to allow you to use SAM launchers in air RB.
"Nothing particularly remarkable about this plane" My dude it has 4 23mm cannons in a PROP. It one shots everything in sight.
Yeah and it's the NS-23 used in Soviet jets. It's like having a Mustang with an M61 Vulcan.
@@yaboianz fr. Flying the La-9 is a treat.
My warthunder experience is spending 5mins to get to altitude then having 1, 7.7 nick my fuel and my whole plane goes up like a tinderbox
Remember that game with the F-5 where you got angry because spotting system sucks lol
wdym? spotting an enemy thats 0.6 km behind u closing in at mach 4000 giving u no chance to evade seems perfectly reasonable to me...../s
I feel like the TRUE Warthunder experience is:
Being the only person on your team to climb and watching your entire team offer themselves up to the enemy team and then complain they didn't have any back-up.
Getting up-tiered every game for an entire hour and stomped by planes that excel yours in every single way.
Getting ganked by someone because the spotting mechanic decided you didn't need to see the plane that was right above you.
Having a bomber climb to space and losing a fantastic game just because you don't have any ground options.
Me bitter? Why would you say that :)
I just spaded the Chinese La-9 and idk about you but I loved every game in it. I adore this plane because it’s just so much fun and I think it’s really good.
Fun trick: On the La-9 you can only fire either the top or bottom guns. U can use that to save ammo.
Just like the F-2 Sabre!
everyday is a good day when spit uploads
Of to play the la9 now coz I know that it’s not gonna be the same experience coz I’m shit and loose all my cash
(on the radio) Dimitri, you cannot fight the future tech with your fighter.
Don't worry Ivan, the hand of Stalin will guide my shot komrade
Recently spaded this plane. Amazing top speed and guns, also energy retention. Really enjoyed winning nearly every headon
Also, that feeling of dunking on a guy at lower altitudes, only to go full vertical and realizing you forgot to check your surroundings and theres a p-47 just hauling so much ass in your direction.
the La-9 is one of the only couple props in the game that I actually play for fun lol
you get those guns on target and your enemy goes BOOM
Same with f4u-4b, its crazy good
@@melo3814 i got the french F4U 7 instead. Got those amazing cannons and snebs
It's been 2 months since I have played low tiers, and God, that is so good to don't be worry with a guy is locking a missile in you
pro tip, because the plane has 4 cannons the ammo displays 2 different cannon groups, and you can control them separately, which doubles your firing time, but considering that those 23mm's do hella damage it's nothing
This relates to the AA from the first game, I had a game yesterday where I had two or three kills in the first 5 minutes, but the game lasted around 20 because the last two enemies decided to camp AA, luckily I killed one and my teammate sacrificed himself for the other.
a true teammate
3 things:
- That B24 Situation you most likely got killed by Gunner AI that decided to do its job at that Moment because you were close enough for them actual doing something and in 1 of 500 Situations like that, this happens xD
- I really noticed these last minute Head Ons too and man do i hat these guys, often they turn so late into you, that you cant evade anymore and crash into them.
- These 23mm are better. Way higher Bullet Density and also better Range when you can aim them in a Headon. Maybe even less Spread, because i bet some of these enemies didnt had spaded Planes.
p.s. Pls play the A32A, that thing gets no Recognition at all. I recently spaded it and having a Blast in it. Also it got buffed today, now having double the amount of Cannon Ammo.
Playing your Energy Advantage Card right and you can Dodge Almost all Enemies. I also changed for testing the Gun Target Distance to 150 or 200m to get a wider Fireing Cone when i jump Enemies, because these Swedish 20mm really have a very small concentrated Firing Point otherwise and i had so many Situations where the Enemy got away because all bullets missed the target by half a dwarf xD
Also it is the only Plane so far where i used the Radar actively every Match to look from where Enemies are closing in especially in the Early Stage to look out for Yak38, Su-7, A4Es and AV8s to prevent getting jumped by them.
Why do you have your gun aiming distance so low, how are you supposed to hit anything passed 500m with that
@@stephenallen4635
Doesnt matter everything is outdated anyways. Even the Guns have more spread now.
I wish Tank battles had something like the base AAA in air battles.
If only to prevent spawn campers.
Like: "Oh, you think you're gonna be a cheeky devil? Here's an ATGM or artillery volley in your face!"
"only 2-3 kill games, nothing outstanding" dude 3 kills counts as that amazing 1 in a 20 match for me
Yeah its why sometimes i disagree with Spit's balancing ideas because they often revolve around his own experience for the game. For example in his video about changes needed for WT in 2021, he considered that a repair cost of 25k was the absolute maximum RC for a vehicle, which honestly makes no sense because a single vehicle will likely never grant you 25k SL a life unless it is so busted that another change is needed anyways. Even blatantly overpowered vehicles like the 2A6 can't even get that kind of killstreak despite like a 80% winrate for top tier german teams
wdym its not even that hard to get that much kills especially in props
@@lildarius6933 Yeah but remember this does not make sense for an optimal balance and gameplay point of view. Remember that for every massive killstreak you go on, that's that many players that are getting 3 minutes games for 1k SL and a 10k+ RC. Sure most of the time its because they play like idiots but you can't balance repair costs to account for the skilled playerbase when they only represent a statistical minority and would perform well in any plane regardless how bad it is.
@@lildarius6933 with early props maybe yes, but with late ones and then jets you need to be really skilled to get a KD of 2 which is very rare
@@kubajackiewicz2 ig but i dont have a problem when i use the p-51h
try playing the Swedish b-18b, it super OP, even the wiki agrees that its OP, it says "The aircraft performs extremely well, and can outrun anything. Its turn time is good, can out-turn most twin-engine fighters. It has a really good rate of climb and an excellent dive speed. The only issue with the flight performance is that it bleeds energy when you have the payload options strapped on", it also says "The B18B is a really good aircraft in all game modes", the way I play it is to play air RB, use its insane speed to bomb one of the bases as soon as possible, stay at about 6 kilometers while bombing, then turn around going to where everyone is dogfighting, stay at 6 kilometers up as you want to have the altitude advantige but dont go any higher than 6 kilometers as the plane starts to rapidly lose performince, but if you go lower, then you won't have the altitude advantage, then once you are over the battlfield, just fly it like a Bf-110, and the best part is, you get all this and the plane is at 3.0, .7 below the Bf-110, I grinded out the entire swedish tech tree using only this plane in about 2 weeks.
Spit : " I am not afraid "
B-24 : " Then you'll die braver than the most "
Nothing will happen when you flip over. The engine is only going to black out but you will still be fine. I'm a LA 9 Pilot
Lol. The moment video unfroze at the end (and I really was curious to see how things went) I got an ad.
😂 nice one YT (I just tell the algorithm to put ads where it thinks is best 😂)
The higher you go, the more toxic it gets. I just stay at 3.0-4.7 fun tiers, because grinding top tiers is dumb and there are no other reasons for me to get higher
this is the plane that got me through rank IV and most of rank V russia, great plane with great guns
lol same but also with the La-15, La-15 is probably among my favorite aircraft
@@pyencdocde5716 The La-15 is a great somewhat underrated plane tbh. Its fast enough to keep up with everything except Sabres at its tier and its quite maneuverable too, very fun jet to fly. I used it to grind the La-200 because that is also an interesting plane to fly (very different from the La-15 obviously)
@@niggalini I used to to grind from the MiG-17 to the SMT, very underrated indeed but I wouldn't recommend it for a beginner. Currently I'd like the have the Yak-30 but I see it, even less than the La-15, Hell even the La-174
@@pyencdocde5716 yeah I've only ever seen a Yak30 once when I was flying my MiGs and La's, why is that plane so unpopular? Yak jet line is basically the last thing I have left for soviet air force so I haven't tried any yak jets yet
@@niggalini I mean the Yak-15/17/23 aren't exactly the most forgiving, in fact its the complete opposite, my best guess is people give up at the Yak-15s
La9s do well on winter maps cause of home ground advantage
I’m convinced winter maps make your plane perform better
I made the cut, mom!
LOL
I was in your lobby earlier. I said hi then you got chased by like 5 guys.
“SOVIET INTENSIFIES”
ngl when spit killed the F4U-4B i cried a little on the inside
AA is deadly against props and early jets, but against top tier jets it does next to nothing
When I land with certain planes they would flip so for me to counter I land alittle sideways with the rudder and it helps a lot when slowing down
When he said I’m sorry little one. I lost it. Lol
i think theres a problem with la's adn turret 50cals
So i was just casualy playing the la5fn got 2 kills and then a p61 dived on me
i dodge him with no problem and then when i was on his six ready to kill him he shoots i think 4 bulets from his 50cal and my pilot die instantly.
Not even him believed that, he tough some aaa killed me or something like that.
The F8F1B repair cost got nerfed LET'S FREAKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOO
“Feelings of having a large appendage “ hahahahahahahahahaha love your vids.
Prediction: hard hit to the ground you never want to be in that angle so close to the ground
Your head on game is far superior to anything I could ever achieve at my current aim skill level. I would have never connected those 1.5km shots for crits or kills. As for the full-commit head on, I can't seem to get away from them. Even when I don't want to, or wasn't even looking at a threat coming around to go head on, they still surprise me. I would say getting killed in a last-minute head one equates for at least half of my deaths in the last year. Players always go for it. A machismo thing I suppose. I still struggle with how to properly evade/avoid those plays.
the brakes on this thing just slams
the end broke my heart
decided to take this out for one flight last week, got 5 kills on lawn mowing enemies and went back to grinding jets, fun plane
Nice work man
La-9 is so good, fucking love that shit
La-9 Spade was a pain even in 3 kill games, and i am NOT going to even crew the Chinese one.
the aa got buffed again on some maps
I hope the mig 21 vs phantom video gets reuploaded.
"im sorry little one" lmfao 6:09
Poor guy tho :(
@@Spitflyer true
nah it was an honor
@@joedemtowz9247 you took it well o7
One single hit (okay, maybe 3-4...) with a .50cal and the wing is gone like from a 20mm Minengeschoss hit.... Yep, THATS War Thunder. ^^
(thats one of the reason why US planes have so many .50cals. 1 is not doing much. So just put in 6/8!)
But hey, great match!
I'd argue the La-9 is generally above average (at lower alts) and fixes the biggest some of the biggest issues of the La-7: firepower and dive speed, though it doesn't fix the medium to high alt performance problems and is a bit worse in sustained maneuvers. binding a separate key for low or high caliber guns lets you conserve ammo by only firing two of the four cannons at once. It does run into some problems vs the really good american props (F4U-4Bs and P-51H-5 mainly) but it can generally find a way to beat pretty much everything else it faces. It can also do 640kph on the deck, so running works well against everyone but america.
Would you mind giving the later spits (Mk.22 and Mk.24) a go ? I find them very enjoyable !
Strangely enough, the Mk24 Spit is quite possibly the *ONLY* vehicle that I prefer to get full up tiers and face early jets in. Simply because it out turns, out climbs, and out accelerates them, and the Hispanos hit like a ton of bricks compared to the .50s
0:43 dude in chat speaking straight fax
Man I wish my enemies just stayed on deck like that...
I genuinely cringed and facepalmed when that B-24 shot you down... God that game is a joke
I had my hands in my head for a very long time after that match. It could’ve been one of my highest kill games too...
When will you make a vid on the mirage iiie since its pretty interesting cuz it doesnt turn as well as the 3c
I've struggled playing it
@@Spitflyer that sucks i just wanted to know what you thought about it since everyone on reddit has mixed opinions
Ofc if you dont enjoy using it you defenatly shouldn't make a vid on it
G'day mr spit nice to see some more super props
I've been getting back into props and I'm enjoying it!
@@Spitflyer same i prefer my boody with out an r60 up it
Watching this guy i think "Wooow i'm gonna download this game right now, it's fun and easy". 2 days before..."F*ck! i spent more time press "go to hangar" than play this shi*it"
Yeah really a learning curve bro lol
that b24 said GET GAIJINED
Lol bomber guns don't never work until you're actually trying to accomplish something.
Thanks for the video Spit.
Man was so salt in chat
B29 king of the hill
That is secondary airfield AA. Every secondary airfield AA should be removed. Is just ridiculous.
Hey spit can u do the 190 A8 next
It’s a pretty good bnz plane
Part of the Lala’s issue I think comes down to how Alt dependent it is compared to other super props. Above 4km, it loses HARD, because it has no WEP. If the battle takes place near or at the deck, then the Lala can quickly turn things around, just due to being such a lightweight aircraft (even lighter than the Mk IX’s iirc)
I saw you in a match I think you were in a p-61. I was in a BV 238 and I saw him approaching another BV 238 who was a bit further away. I saw you climb and set him on fire but you stalled and he in turn set you on fire. You went down super fast in flames and you died while the BV 238 got put out. I can remember your wise words when you died.
WTF
damn girl, your poor enter key.
Damn you just make it look easy
19:07 you disconnect and ram into the ground
I actually did pause it at 19:05 as you said and I could already see the 323 ping... Rest in pieces bro
ok I expected you to crash but the instant kill from his gunners also makes sense war thunder wise, RIP
N2GEL " LET ME IN "
really was their fault for continuing to pursue into the aa, they could have broken off pursuit and handily won.
Disconnect and ram into the ground.
The La-9 is an absolutely excellent plane and I have had amazing amount of fun in the aircraft.
Play the Venom FB 4 and show why it totally belongs at 8.7!
and the the sea venom
6:55 same here chief.
Did see you in a La-9 in a match and one of my team mates noticed you... So he was shouting on the chat how you'll wipe us all out 🤣 so we decided to 3 tag you when you were in the radar, i was in a Ki-84 at that time and man you dodge so well on that sluggy plane
Looks like your team pulled the average 9.0 American team
i see that ping spike and it's causing me ptsd
the true war thunder experience hm?
**first post in game chat:** "F U C K U 288s"
yup, confirmed title matches the content, carry on.
...and we finish with 50 23mms doing nothing while a single 50cal explodes an entire plane. Also accurate.
I enjoy these types of videos, I really like to watch and learn
At this point i enjoy seeing spit die because everyone who fights him are literal potatos
hey Spit i just got the Draken any tricks to spading it.
Had a 7 kill game in the narwhal once...miss those days.
Why did none of the f2g-1s climb in the first match and boom and zoom that's America's bread and butter wtf is right
Yeah, "AAA is for cowards", but as long as you outnumber the enemy and have an altitude advantage - you are the fearless hero.
I smell pain
yea i still don’t miss this game lmao
Can you do a video where u show some of your bad matches (or a rage compilation).Cuz all i see right now is god like gameplay.
Oooh maybe if enough people request that
@@Spitflyer fingers crossed 🤞
@@Spitflyer I'd absolutely watch that video. Are we enough now? ^^
@@Spitflyer are 2 likes and 1 comment enough now?😫🤔
You should look at the other side of the spectrum on 6.0 Superprops. The Ta-152's.
The 23mm cannons are pretty good at this br from my experience