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  • Professor Laurence Eaves on Pythagorean Primes - and why 5, 13 and 137 are three of his favourites!?
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Komentáře • 389

  • @GretgorPooper
    @GretgorPooper Před 9 lety +148

    When professor Eaves says "pythagorean prime", it kinda sounds like the name of some powerful magical creature, because of his voice.

    • @AlexLococo
      @AlexLococo Před 9 lety +15

      Behold my creation! Pythagorean Prime!

    • @jennywilliams7231
      @jennywilliams7231 Před 5 lety +3

      Some new uber badass transformer

    • @felipelopes3171
      @felipelopes3171 Před 2 lety +2

      But that's exactly what it is!

    • @carlrodalegrado4104
      @carlrodalegrado4104 Před rokem +1

      It's Optimus Prime long lost brother who was suppose to be the next prime

    • @pauliedweasel
      @pauliedweasel Před rokem

      It’s the cultured tone of the the king’s English being spoken by a highly educated subject of the realm.

  • @OrlinNorris
    @OrlinNorris Před 11 lety +33

    137 is my favourite number!

  • @aesdeef
    @aesdeef Před 12 lety +24

    Before I saw the video I thought you'll be talking about Pythagorean triples where the lenght of the hypotenuse happens to be a prime number. It actually works for all the three numbers mentioned in the title: (3, 4, 5), (5, 12, 13), (88, 105, 137) ;)

    • @abstractapproach634
      @abstractapproach634 Před rokem

      I wonder the probability that a prime holds both characteristics (a "pythagorean prime and a prime hypotenuse if a pythagorean triple)
      p = n² + m² /\ p² = j²+ k² :p is prime and n,m,j,k are integers
      p² = n⁴ + 2n²m² + m⁴ = j² + k²
      2 equations, 5 unknowns so it's a 3D subset in 5D space (that's not proper language, but a 5D subset with is equal to its projection onto a eD space us wordy)
      Huh interesting

    • @mennoverhoeven8735
      @mennoverhoeven8735 Před měsícem

      That's not a coincidence: it will always work :-)
      Suppose p is a Pythagorean prime, and m^2 + n^2 = p, then you can construct the following Pythagorean triple: (m^2 - n^2)^2 + (2mn)^2 = p^2

  • @michaelempeigne3519
    @michaelempeigne3519 Před 7 lety +29

    one can develop these numbers by the fibonacci sequence.
    1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, 34, 55, 89, 144, 233, .........................
    if we take four consecutive fibonacci numbers say : 1, 2, 3, 5
    multiply the two outer numbers ( 1 * 5 = 5 )
    double the product of the two inner numbers ( 2 * 2 * 3 = 12 )
    and can figure out the third number by 5^2 + 12^2 = 13^2
    this can be done for any fibonacci numbers.
    Furthermore we can find the area of the triangle generated by multiplying all four fibonacci numbers together : 1 * 2 * 3 * 5 = 30
    and the perimeter is double the product of the last two fibonacci numbers : 2 * 3 * 5 = 30

    • @travisbaskerfield
      @travisbaskerfield Před 7 lety

      Never knew that. Lovely! Don't know what you think of numerology, but "The Mystery of Numbers" gives the number 2701 (using the model of Hebrew gematria on the 26 (= YudHeVavHe) letters of the English alphabet). 2701 is the Hebrew gematria of the first verse in Torah. 2701 = 37*73, mirrow primes with mirror indices. "The Numbers Three and Seven're considered Perfect in Qabala" also gives 2701.

    • @tompurcell1499
      @tompurcell1499 Před 7 lety +2

      +travisbaskerfield
      Numerology is not my thing but here's a little fun fact:
      37 is number 12 on the list of primes while
      73 is number 21.
      Do I hear Twilight Zone music in the background?

    • @joulesjams20
      @joulesjams20 Před 7 lety

      Michael Empeigne nice property this can be seen from the identity (m2-n2)2+(2mn)2=(m2 +n2) 2 where m2 is m squared and m and n are coprime. Also this works with any sequence formed by adding the two previous terms so it's not unique to the fibonacci numbers.

  • @MrSiwat
    @MrSiwat Před 12 lety +13

    I'm a big fan of Prof. Eaves maths/physics chats. 1/137 was a classic but my favourite is the Planks constant and Dirac's large number hypothesis vid. plus extra footage. It's great to see him back in action again.))

  • @numberphile
    @numberphile  Před 12 lety +10

    indeed.. glad you liked it!

  • @georgemissailidis7581
    @georgemissailidis7581 Před 6 lety +20

    I love how all of a sudden at 1:11 he pulls out a right-angle triangle out of nowhere

    • @georgemissailidis7581
      @georgemissailidis7581 Před 6 lety +2

      Also, how many pythagorean primes are Fermat primes? If a pyth. prime is 4n + 1 and a Fermat prime is 2^n + 1 then 2^n = 4n so the only solution is if n = 4 which shows that 2^4 = 4^2 which is true. Something special about 17 !!!

  • @fromMouq
    @fromMouq Před 11 lety +7

    2 is the prime constructed by 1^2 + 1^2 unless I'm missing something. I refer to the list @ 3:11
    It was just something I noticed; It's a wonderful video

  • @numberphile
    @numberphile  Před 12 lety +8

    cool, glad you like them... hope you're checking some of the other channels!?

  • @W4LL37SK83R
    @W4LL37SK83R Před 12 lety +7

    when i first saw this video, i assumed they were called Pythagorean primes because they were part of Pythagorean triples (3,4,5; 5,12,13; 88,105,137; etc.). its weird how it works for the same numbers (17 as well)

  • @numberphile
    @numberphile  Před 12 lety +4

    I've posted Professor Eaves' old sixtysymbols video on 137 (the fine structure constant) as a video response and it the video description!

  • @D13djeej
    @D13djeej Před 8 lety +13

    HAPPY BIRTHDAY, MATE

  • @aletoledo1
    @aletoledo1 Před 12 lety +2

    This is starting to become one of my favorite channels.

  • @RoaringTRex
    @RoaringTRex Před 9 lety +8

    You think of great questions to ask, Brady!

  • @NoriMori1992
    @NoriMori1992 Před 8 lety +2

    I love this guy's accent and voice.

  • @NowhereManForever
    @NowhereManForever Před 9 lety +16

    Someone else who loves 137

    • @mclainv
      @mclainv Před 9 lety +4

      137 is seriously my favorite number.

    • @Minecraftster148790
      @Minecraftster148790 Před 8 lety +3

      I love it. Did u know what the mass number of barium is? U will never guess. It is 137

    • @screes620
      @screes620 Před 5 lety

      137 is the number of degrees turned when using the golden ratio for dropping seeds around a plant.

    • @chrisg3030
      @chrisg3030 Před 5 lety +1

      137, 173, 317 are all primes. The next three permutations in ascending order, 371, 713, 731, and the mirrors of the previous, are composites. Unique?

    • @MrRikimari
      @MrRikimari Před 4 lety +1

      Does 1307 count as 137? My apartment unit is 1307 😃

  • @ffggddss
    @ffggddss Před 7 lety +4

    Fun stuff! My only disappointment was failure to point out that, while for each Pyth. prime, p, √p is the hypotenuse of a rt. triangle with integer legs (a, b), so is p itself! (with bigger legs, of course)
    And you can get the legs for the bigger triangle, by squaring the corresponding complex integer with the smaller legs:
    (a + bi)² = a²-b² + 2abi
    So for p = 137 = 11² + 4², you have 11² - 4² = 105; 2·11·4 = 88, so:
    137² = 105² + 88²

    • @ffggddss
      @ffggddss Před 7 lety +1

      The point is that when you plot these in the complex plane, the length is the Pythagorean sum of the x (real) and y (imaginary) components:
      z = x + iy ; |z| = √(x² + y²)
      All this really says is that if you draw the corresponding right triangle, with a along x, and b along y, then c, the hypotenuse satisfies the familiar Pythagorean Theorem:
      a² + b² = c²
      Now when you square a complex number, its length also gets squared. Which means that the squares of the new components (A=a²-b² and B=2ab), also satisfy the Pythagorean Theorem, with:
      A² + B² = C² = (c²)²
      (a²-b²)² + (2ab)² = (a² + b²)²
      So in my example,
      a=11, b=4, c=√137, c²=137
      A = a²-b² = 105 , B = 2ab = 88 , C = c² = 137
      C² = 137² = 105² + 88²

    • @ffggddss
      @ffggddss Před 7 lety +1

      Yes, it's one of those totally marvelous techniques that makes me wish I'd thought of it!

  • @numberphile
    @numberphile  Před 12 lety +4

    done that one already!

  • @AussieEvonne
    @AussieEvonne Před 12 lety +2

    Really nice to see Prof Eaves again!

  • @NielsBlok567
    @NielsBlok567 Před 12 lety +2

    137, of course!

  • @NickiShinn
    @NickiShinn Před 11 lety +1

    The example he gave us, which was A = 3.2 inches and B = 5.75 inches, then C is about 6.5804635095105572661826405151142 inches.

  • @daninewman9544
    @daninewman9544 Před 2 lety +1

    My daughters birthday 17th May so my favourite is 175 including Matrix . 71, 157 half of Pi, 571 and 751. Cheers. All Primes

  • @numberphile
    @numberphile  Před 12 lety

    a quick way to find them all is my website - bradyharan com

  • @PhilBagels
    @PhilBagels Před 9 lety +5

    I wonder how many Pythagorean primes are also hypotenuse lengths for Pythagorean triples. Both 5 and 13 are. 5 = 2^2 + 1^2, but also 5^2 = 4^2 + 3^2. And 13 = 3^2 + 2^2, but also 13^2 = 12^2 + 5^2. And 17^2 = 15^2 + 8^2. And 29 = 5^2 + 2^2, but also 29^2 = 20^2 + 21^2. etc.
    And...
    wait for it...
    137^2 = 105^2 + 88^2

    • @SmileyMPV
      @SmileyMPV Před 8 lety +2

      but 2=1^2+1^2 and 2 is prime, while there exist no 2 natural numbers a and b such that 2^2=a^2+b^2 :(

    • @Deathranger999
      @Deathranger999 Před 8 lety +2

      All of them are, in fact! It's a known fact that all Pythagorean triples take the form (2kmn, k(m^2 - n^2), k(m^2 + n^2)), with k, m, and n integers with either m or n even, and m > n. I could prove that, but the margins of this comment are too small (in all serious, it's not that hard of a proof). So all Pythagorean triples look like that. In all of them, k(m^2 + n^2) will be the hypotenuse. So you can see that if k = 1, then the hypotenuse can always be represented as m^2 + n^2 for integers m and n. So if m^2 + n^2 is a prime, then it's also the hypotenuse of some right triangle. :)

    • @Deathranger999
      @Deathranger999 Před 8 lety

      +Kieran Kaempen also, m != n.

  • @jimharmon9917
    @jimharmon9917 Před 7 lety +9

    It is the SQUARE of the hypotenuse of an integer right triangle that might be a Pythagorean prime - not the square root of the hypotenuse.

    • @JAlexCarney
      @JAlexCarney Před 7 lety +2

      Jim Harmon but a square number can never be prime : p so that is a really silly definition

    • @jimharmon9917
      @jimharmon9917 Před 7 lety

      I will parenthesize my statement to make it more obvious what I meant:
      It is the SQUARE of (the hypotenuse of an integer right triangle that might be a Pythagorean prime). That is, the value of the hypotenuse being the prime, not its square.

    • @ffggddss
      @ffggddss Před 7 lety

      Some salient facts, not all of which are brought out in the video:
      1. Every prime is either 2, or is congruent to either ±1 (mod 4).
      2. Every prime that is 2 or == +1 (mod 4), and no other prime, is expressible as a sum of two squares.
      3. Every number, n, that is expressible as a sum of two squares, and whose sqrt, √n, can thus be the hypotenuse of a right triangle with integer legs (a,b, so that a²+b²=n), can also itself be the hypotenuse of an integer right triangle, by virtue of squaring the complex integer a+bi, and using the squared length of that complex integer:
      (a+bi)² = a²-b² + 2abi ;
      (a²-b²)² + (2ab)² = (a²+b²)² = n²

    • @somosUS
      @somosUS Před 7 lety

      The value of the length of the hypotenuse squared which would be the Pythagorean prime. In His example, for instance, a right triangle with sides a=11 and b=4 would have a hypotenuse of length 137^(1/2). We can show this by applying the Pythagorean Theorem: a^2 + b^2 = c^2, for a=11 and b=4 would be (11^2)+(4^2) = c^2 = 137 (the prime number.) To get the length of the hypotenuse, we would need to take the square root of our Pythagorean prime, which would be roughly 11.7047.

    • @koenth2359
      @koenth2359 Před 6 lety

      Parker square of the hypothenuse

  • @Ofordgabings
    @Ofordgabings Před 11 lety +1

    137 is one of my favorite numbers because it's Porygon's number, which is my favorite pokemon. Okay now I feel really nerdy... =/

  • @stygn
    @stygn Před 12 lety +1

    Finally one on numberphile who writes the "7" correctly. It's supposed to be stroked. (And I could tell you why...)

    • @devinbrown6272
      @devinbrown6272 Před rokem

      Tell me

    • @fiiredark
      @fiiredark Před 11 měsíci

      Because in the original version of how to write the set of symbols we still use to express numbers today, each symbol contained the same number of angles within itself as the number the symbol was trying to express. (Just the single digits 0-9 of course.)
      0 has zero angles.
      1 as it typically appears in type has one angle.
      2 is written like a ‘z’, and thus contains 2 angles.
      Make the curves of 3 into points instead. Three angles.
      Look it up. Some numbers are slightly trickier to explain in words, but they are completely recognizable when you see a picture.
      You’re welcome ;)

  • @MrDbm101
    @MrDbm101 Před 12 lety

    what are the other channels besides sixty symbols...i'm addicted to these videos.

  • @russellthorburn9297
    @russellthorburn9297 Před rokem +2

    I was wondering whether the connection between 137 and the fine structure constant would be mentioned.

  • @IzzyisDizzyandFizzy
    @IzzyisDizzyandFizzy Před 8 lety +9

    I'm a Pythagorean prime baby!!!

  • @Mazard
    @Mazard Před 11 lety +1

    I too love the number 137, it has been my favourite for a long time, just randomly (kind of). Over time I keep finding out cool things about it :D

  • @user-nj1og6yb7v
    @user-nj1og6yb7v Před 8 měsíci

    Blaise Pascal approves. (73^n)(137^n).
    Leonardo Bigollo Pisano approves. (11^n)(101^n)(73^n)(137^n).
    "Come find me at the Cliff if you want to scale the mountain." ~Meru

  • @FrogDaBomb
    @FrogDaBomb Před 11 lety +1

    Note: if m^2+n^2 = c, for integers m and n, then there exists integers a and b such that a^2+b^2 = c^2. (By Euclid's Formula). I'm surprised that wasn't in there....

  • @wolken_bruch
    @wolken_bruch Před 9 lety +8

    My birthday is the 13th may too :D It's kind of satisfying.

  • @chrisofnottingham
    @chrisofnottingham Před 12 lety +2

    5:00 Its *square* is a Pythagorean prime.
    I'm probably the millionth person to post this.

  • @ISmokePopRocks
    @ISmokePopRocks Před 12 lety

    5.13 is also my brothers birthday and 513 is one of those numbers I see everywhere, this video is just another

  • @nnmdani
    @nnmdani Před 11 lety +3

    Happy Birthday :)

  • @timlavy1968
    @timlavy1968 Před 11 lety +1

    It just so happens that 5 and 13 are also the hypotenuses of right-angled triangles when the legs are integers. Because sqrt(3^2+4^2)=5 and sqrt(5^2+12^2).

  • @JonathanTot
    @JonathanTot Před 12 lety

    ya, this is what i meant
    prefix this with the definition that a pythagorean prime (PP) is a prime of form 4n+1
    this is equivalent to saying the definition that PP is the sum of two squares and prime
    and that is equivalent to the definition that a PP is a prime hypotenuse of a pythagorean triple

  • @mageknight6166
    @mageknight6166 Před 10 lety +6

    What about two? Two is prime.
    1²+1²=2
    Is it not also Pythagorean, despite not following the 4n+1 property?

    • @joaolucasgaldino9872
      @joaolucasgaldino9872 Před 7 lety

      The thing is, they don't count as prime.

    • @bradsa82
      @bradsa82 Před 7 lety +3

      John Galdino 2 is prime. Just the weird one that doesn't follow the others. 1 however isn't considered prime.

    • @pepebriguglio6125
      @pepebriguglio6125 Před 6 lety

      Mageknight, you're right.
      c = sqr(2) in the special case where a = b = 1, so if they say all pythagorean primes come in the form 4n+1, then I guess they add the condition that
      "a is not equal to b", or in other words: the triangle must be a half rectangle, except for the special case where the rectangle is a square.

    • @s0ftwrld22
      @s0ftwrld22 Před 3 lety

      does a triangle only have two sides?

  • @jayraldbasan5354
    @jayraldbasan5354 Před 6 lety +2

    We are in Earth dimension C137

  • @hkyeung1992
    @hkyeung1992 Před 12 lety +2

    I remember that I got 137 marks (out of 200) in physics exam 2 years ago. XD

  • @1987jimmyjames
    @1987jimmyjames Před 7 lety +1

    Interestingly, 7 x 3 = 21 and 73 is the 21st prime.

  • @MarcusArmstrong037
    @MarcusArmstrong037 Před 12 lety

    My youtube account used to have the number 137 in it, because I thought it was an awesome number. Now I have another reason to like it.

  • @l37baconstrips
    @l37baconstrips Před 11 lety

    I love the # 137 because a used to go on route 137 on vacation. This was when i was a little kid. Now seeing this math is really cool!

  • @Alex-rk3gv
    @Alex-rk3gv Před 7 lety +3

    The month I was born on was the 6th and the 28th day. its a perfect number day, and its the only one in a year!

  • @JonathanTot
    @JonathanTot Před 12 lety

    in fact they are equivalent. if p is one of these pythagorean primes as described above, then p=a^2+b^2, which can be factored into a product of complex conjugates
    p=(a+ib)(a-ib)
    then p^2=(a+ib)^2*(a-ib)^2=(a^2-b^2+2abi)(a^2-b^2-2abi)
    this again is a product of complex conjugates, so
    p^2=(a^2-b^2)^2 + (2ab)^2

  • @AtheistCitizen
    @AtheistCitizen Před 12 lety

    k >0 forces the lengths A,B,C of the corresponding rt triangle to be positive. If you want to "play" with sign and do not associate PT with a triangle then +/- any A,B, or C but this will not add new Natural number solutions, hence no new triangles.
    PP with a=b solution is unique at PP=2. Other a=b solutions? Wd imply prime divisible by 2 [so no others]. Silly case to consider. So a or b, one must be larger. WLOG let a>b keeps all A,B,C positive so the solution corresponds to a right triangle.

  • @numberphile
    @numberphile  Před 12 lety

    yeah it was my very clumsy question that caused the problem... but I think you know what was meant!

  • @stumbling
    @stumbling Před 12 lety

    "Also it's square root is not an integer",prime numbers don't have integral square roots because they are non-divisible (hence the fact they are primes). Ten doesn't have an integral square root, but the reason it isn't a prime is that it's the product of two primes (2 and 5). Only numbers that can't be reduced to smaller "parts" are primes, they are the building blocks of all numbers. The number one doesn't count in this sense because dividing by one doesn't reduce the number to smaller parts.

  • @Talpykaze
    @Talpykaze Před 12 lety

    cuz the diagonal can be calculated as a^2+b^2=c^2 and then take the square rot of c^2 and u get the diagonal. and he used the same method to get 5, 1^2+2^2=c^2, c^2=5

  • @IceMetalPunk
    @IceMetalPunk Před 12 lety

    Prime numbers (especially large ones) are important in cryptography. Pythagorean primes can be generated by the constraints a^2+b^c=c and 4n+1=c; having a nice way to generate prime numbers, even a subset of them, is useful.

  • @joepelletier6694
    @joepelletier6694 Před 10 lety +10

    137!!!

  • @garyedwards3269
    @garyedwards3269 Před rokem

    137 is the 15th Pythagorean prime.
    11 squared is 121
    4 squared is 16
    121 + 16 = 137
    11 + 4 = 15
    113 is the 14th Pythagorean prime.
    10 squared is 100
    100 + 13 = 113
    11 + 3 = 14
    109 is the 13th Pythagorean prime.
    10 squared is 100.
    3 squared is 9
    10 + 3 = 13

  • @atticuswalker
    @atticuswalker Před 6 měsíci

    has anyone noticed that the fine structural constant is almost the same as the half the decimal in pi. that 137 has a repeating decimal of 8. and mass as a wave repeats after 8 turns.

  • @sillymesilly
    @sillymesilly Před rokem +1

    137 is an inverse of a fine structure constant

  • @VWftw82
    @VWftw82 Před 11 lety +1

    I like 233 because the roots of the perfect squares which add up to it (8, 13) are the parts of the wedding anniversary of a cousin of mine.

    • @coc235
      @coc235 Před 3 lety

      And also all these three numbers are in the Fibonacci sequence!

  • @neelmodi5791
    @neelmodi5791 Před 9 lety +15

    Aren't these all just primes that are one more than a multiple of four?

    • @NoahTopper
      @NoahTopper Před 9 lety +11

      Neel Modi Yes, that's what he showed with the formula 4n+1

    • @neelmodi5791
      @neelmodi5791 Před 9 lety +1

      ***** oh yeah oops

    • @georgemissailidis7581
      @georgemissailidis7581 Před 6 lety +8

      You now have 5 likes, which is one more than a multiple of 4 :)

    • @georgemissailidis7581
      @georgemissailidis7581 Před 6 lety +5

      It seems like these are all primes that are the sum of two squares as well.
      5 = 1² + 2²
      13 = 2² + 3²
      137 = 4² + 11²
      Notice that each pair of the bases of the squares are all co-prime.

    • @henricx1
      @henricx1 Před 6 lety

      You now have 9 likes, which is one more than a multiple of 4 :)

  • @farahjaber6024
    @farahjaber6024 Před 7 lety +9

    do you know that 5/13 will be lucky in 2017 because :5/13/17

    • @jeffo9396
      @jeffo9396 Před 7 lety +1

      2017 is also prime, but I don't know if it's a Pythagorean Prime.

    • @jonathanschossig1276
      @jonathanschossig1276 Před 7 lety +1

      Jeff O Yes, it is.

    • @jonathanschossig1276
      @jonathanschossig1276 Před 7 lety

      Jeff O 44^2+9^2

    • @ffggddss
      @ffggddss Před 7 lety

      The fact that it's prime and congruent to +1 mod 4, guarantees that it is expressible as a sum of two squares. Also note that
      1855² + 792² = 2017²
      [This is always possible for Pythagorean primes.]

  • @tompurcell1499
    @tompurcell1499 Před 7 lety

    Just to say that every positive integer k of the form 4n+1 can be expressed as the sum of two squares provided that
    a) the prime factorisation of k consists only of primes of the form 4n+1 or
    b) if the prime factorisation of k consists of any primes of the form 4n+3, then each such prime factor must be of a power having an even exponent. p = 4n+3 gives p² = 4(4n² + 6n + 2) + 1
    which is of the form 4n+1
    Given the possible remainders on division, the integer z = x² + y² can be of the form
    4n, 4n+1 or 4n+2
    but it is impossible to arrive at c = 4n + 3
    This explains why 21 = 3 *7 cannot be expressed as the sum of two squares; each prime factor has odd exponent 1. However, if you consider 45 = 3² * 5 for example then
    45 = 3² (1² + 2²) = (3² + 6²) = 45
    Assuming that an integer can be expressed as the sum of two squares, the number of ways it can be so expressed, depends on the number of prime factors (up to exponent) which are of the form 4n+1. Any prime factors p^2r with p of the form 4n+3 are discounted in the calculation since their product is simply factored into each particular expression involving the former primes, with primes of the form 4n+1 being expressed as the sum of two squares in only one way. For instance, all positive integers k with prime factorisation
    k = pq (where each of p and q are congruent to 1 modulo 4) will have two ways of being expressed as the sum of two squares. For example
    65 = 1² + 8² = 4² + 7²
    This comes from the fact that if P and Q are primes (of the form 4n+1, naturally), then since we can write
    P = a² + b² and Q = c² + d²
    PQ = (a² + b²)(c² + d²) = (ac + bd)² + (ad - bc)² - the sum of two squares
    But we could also have
    PQ = (a² + b²)(d² + c²) = (ad + bc)² + (ac - bd)²
    which gives the two expressions.
    so
    5*13 = (1² + 2²)(2² + 3²)
    = (1*2 + 2*3)² + (1*3 - 2*2)²
    = 8² + (-1)²
    = 8² + 1²
    and
    5*13 = (1² + 2²)(3² + 2²)
    = (1*3 + 2*2)² + (1*2 - 2*3)²
    = 7² + (-4)²
    = 7² + 4²
    (I think I got a little carried away here......)

  • @treymedley
    @treymedley Před 12 lety +1

    I'm assuming you're referring to the sums thatyield a pythagorean prime. (Such as 1^2 +4^2= 17. In this example neither integers are primes. A Pythagorean prime is the sum of two *integers* squared, not necessarily two primes that are squared.

  • @Simoss13
    @Simoss13 Před 11 lety +2

    Born in May 13 and 137 years old :)

    • @CaseyShontz
      @CaseyShontz Před 6 lety

      Simoss13 if he ever turns 137 that will be his favorite birthday

  • @VWftw82
    @VWftw82 Před 11 lety +1

    I suddenly realized that 149 (7^2+10^2) and 181 9^2+10^2) are Pythagorean primes. Judging from that list, they seem quite common.

  • @JonathanTot
    @JonathanTot Před 12 lety

    quote:"a pythagorean prime (PP) is a prime of form 4n+1" i found this definition a number of different places on the web

  • @JotteXD
    @JotteXD Před 11 lety

    137 Its something special about that number i see it occur many times a day for example 15-20 times while others only does like 1-5 for me

  • @APMathNerd
    @APMathNerd Před 12 lety

    Yes it would... Side lengths 1, 1, and √2. It's an isosceles right triangle.

  • @Enigma1790
    @Enigma1790 Před 12 lety

    Pythagorean primes are special because they fit both the pattern of Pythagorean numbers and primes. That's it.
    Mathematicians love this kind of thing. I mean they make such a deal over Mersen primes and prime numbers in general for example. It's really quite arbitrary.
    Not to say I don't love mathematics, because I do, and it is cool to find patterns or particularly rare occurrences, but a lot of it seems arbitrary if you lack higher understanding like I, or most people do.

  • @numberphile
    @numberphile  Před 12 lety +1

    oh I forgot to do that trick! :)

  • @GyanPratapSingh
    @GyanPratapSingh Před 12 lety

    I think this is the first time anyone has ever messed up on one of those brown sheets of papers that are in Brady's videos

  • @VictorAndScience
    @VictorAndScience Před 12 lety

    Professor Laurence has really pretty numbers!

  • @nerd9347.
    @nerd9347. Před rokem

    Neat. Happy birthday!

  • @theGraphicAutist
    @theGraphicAutist Před rokem +1

    So THATS why our Rick and Morty reside in universe c137! They said it was arbitrary!

  • @michaelbayer5887
    @michaelbayer5887 Před 4 lety

    ... u can go also to state delaware - the First state of Amerika - the mountain so high - 137 the lowest high mountain Position in Delaware called - Ebright Azimuth - its like Gate to the STARS.

  • @ChikoWhat
    @ChikoWhat Před 12 lety

    Hey Numberphile, I remember there were combinations of A and B where B=A+1 (1 different to A)
    Though I forgot how to find them.
    The easiest example of course is if A=3 so B=3+1=4 and so C=5 :D

  • @anticorncob6
    @anticorncob6 Před 12 lety

    Here's something else about the numbers 5 and 13:
    5 is the number of platonic solids &
    13 is the number of Archimedean solids! Both very closely related.

  • @AndrewBarth
    @AndrewBarth Před 12 lety +1

    @numberphile You should do a video on the Dyson Number!

  • @WrathofRS
    @WrathofRS Před 12 lety

    He has very neat writing.

  • @numberphile
    @numberphile  Před 12 lety

    hi, my other channels include sixtysymbols, periodicvideos, nottinghamscience, deepskyvideos, foodskey, backstagescience, etc...

  • @stygn
    @stygn Před 12 lety

    Oh yeah.. A bit more to explain it.. 2 would look like Z, 3 would look sort of like like epsilon, and then you get the point.. 8 is just two squares on top of each other..

  • @Quaz1AndCounting
    @Quaz1AndCounting Před 12 lety

    I was doing my homework on page 137 today.

  • @TazManiac008
    @TazManiac008 Před 12 lety

    I LOVE your videos and I have watched them all, but the sound of the markers on the paper makes me shiver to the bone!! Please use a white board, you'll make me one happy viewer.

    • @Astromath
      @Astromath Před 2 lety

      I'm glad they didn't listen to you xD

  • @TheMdc78
    @TheMdc78 Před 12 lety

    right which would make the actual length of the side some odd decimal number, but the square of that number is 17 so the OP is correct, they misspoke

  • @freeclimbhero
    @freeclimbhero Před 11 lety +1

    64 and 137 are my two favourite numbers :) in 137, 13 is prime, 37 is prime, and 1+3+7 is prime, 3 is prime and 7 is prime, and 137 itself is prime. One of the best numbers out there imo :) And I love 64 because 2^6 is 64, 4^3 is 64, 8^2 is 64 and 16^1.5=64 which I think is awesome because I love powers of 2, and I love binary. When people ask me what my favourite numbers are, they thing that they're really strange, lol.

  • @wonderapparatus
    @wonderapparatus Před 12 lety

    My birthday is 5/29 and my brother's is 5/17! We are pythagorean prime brothers!

  • @numberphile
    @numberphile  Před 12 lety

    Welsh understatement!

  • @cb01023
    @cb01023 Před 9 lety +1

    My results are curiously exacts and no many computes are required.Consider each number separetly.Parity is primordial.For ex. the parity of number of digits,the parity of last digits, and so on.The sum of them and parity.The digit currently test is prime number? It,s works likes a zero.

  • @bonesplitter1337
    @bonesplitter1337 Před 12 lety

    137 is also the rounded down golden ratio (in degrees) :)

  • @Maelkenar
    @Maelkenar Před 12 lety

    Theres one thing I do not understand. Why does he take the square value as the "Pythagorean Prime"? Because that is not the actual value of the hypothenusis, the value is actually the square root of those numbers. And in all the cases he illustrated, the actual value of the hypothenusis is an irrational number, which isn't that special. Why doesn't he take the "proper" approach? 5^2 = 4^2 + 3^2 for instance?

  • @bxdanny
    @bxdanny Před 2 lety

    While the triangles he shows have only the square roots of these "pythagorean primes" for their hypotenuses, they seem to be numbers that can themselves be the hypotenuse of a right triangle with integer sides (5 for 3/4/5, 13 for 5/12/13, etc.) I'm wondering if this is always true.

  • @IceMetalPunk
    @IceMetalPunk Před 12 lety

    If a^2 + b^2 = c, and a and b are integers, and c is prime, then c is called a "Pythagorean prime" because it matches the form of the Pythagorean Theorem.

  • @AWSim
    @AWSim Před 6 lety

    I was born on 05-11-1997. and the 5th,9th, and 1997th digit of pi is 5.

  • @JAVANUMETAL
    @JAVANUMETAL Před 12 lety

    Yea, was gonna correct myself but whatever, thats why it isnt a rational. yea and Phi has also the property of Phi²=Phi +1, and Phi³= (Phi +1)/(Phi -1). And my favourite, but im not sure : Phi= -cos(6x6x6) (in degrees, not radians)

  • @stygn
    @stygn Před 12 lety

    It's based on the number of angles really. 0 has 0 angles, 1 has 1, 2 has 2, 3 has 3, so on and so on. And to get a 7 with 7 angles you need the stroke. Of course, as we write them now, you most often don't have any angles at all apart from 2, 4, 5 and 7, the rest is just rounded. And oh, the 4 as you see it here, in this text, is wrong too because it has 6 angles, not 4. But it's not a big deal I guess.. I just really hate it when people write the 7 without the stroke : P

  • @_N0_0ne
    @_N0_0ne Před 2 lety

    Thank you

  • @dance1211rec
    @dance1211rec Před 12 lety +1

    I always wanted to know if you can make a right angled triangle with these primes making up the edges

  • @th-jh7zd
    @th-jh7zd Před 7 lety

    game of numbers: 137(n=1,3,7) 2^n+2+n 2^1+2+1=5 2^3+2+3=13 2^7+2+7=137

  • @hollyhills1397
    @hollyhills1397 Před 9 lety +15

    wouldn't 2 be one too?

    • @johnjonsson6864
      @johnjonsson6864 Před 8 lety +1

      +Holly Hills I guess so.

    • @laneduncan1088
      @laneduncan1088 Před 7 lety +1

      Holly Hills When he talks about Pythagorean primes, he's talking about the integers that can equal C. Assuming A = 1 and B = 1, A² + B² = 2. If C² = 2, C = √2, which is neither a prime nor an integer.

    • @iOSMinecraft120
      @iOSMinecraft120 Před 7 lety +3

      Lane Duncan No, check the video again. It says 5 = 1^2+2^2, but not 5^2 = 3^2+4^2

    • @eduardogomes4865
      @eduardogomes4865 Před 7 lety +1

      Yes, two is the only prime with that property who is not of the form 4n + 1

  • @milesbm83
    @milesbm83 Před 11 lety

    Porygon 2's number is 233 which is another Pythagorean Prime number.

  • @FrogDaBomb
    @FrogDaBomb Před 11 lety +1

    No, there are not. See Fermat's theorem on the sum of two squares. Many of the proofs (e.g. Dedekind's proof) implies that if the sum of two squares is prime, then those two squares are unique.

  • @AtheistCitizen
    @AtheistCitizen Před 12 lety

    wikipedia has a nice treatment of Pythagorean triples