Best comparison video on the web. Thanks for putting the time, energy and $ into this. I just bought a mossberg 835 and was unsure about what ammo to try.
Fantastic video. The discussion seems to always head down the path of "every gun is different". But they aren't that different and a good shell is a good shell for the most part. It's great to be able to learn from a video like this and save some money as well as shoulder meat. Thank you!
Excellent review PERIOD. Totally objective from beginning to end. Have experimented with the same ammo and leadsled combination myself although with a TC ProHunter 20ga. Max range for me was out to 40 yards. Same results ………. I have elected to stick with the Longbeard, they flat out work. Keep up the great work.
Very good 👍 the best video I've seen on turkey loads. Thank you for taking the time and money to test. I usually use Winchester #5 but picked up a box of 3" #9 TSS. Illinois just drop the minimum shot size from #7.5 to any. As long as it's #4 or smaller.
This might be the best turkey ammo review I’ve ever seen. The one consistency I see between all the turkey ammo review videos is that magnum blend and long-beard XR are the top dogs.
Great review/comparison. I have used the longbeard for several years but since I don't get many days to hunt, I am switching to the heavy loads to get a few extra yards past my normal 40 yrd limit. This gave me a real side by side without the investment or bruises.
Great video!! My son & I watched it and found it very useful. His 8 yrs old and in a few weeks will hunt for first time. Keep the videos coming brother!
Very good info and video! I shoot a Stoeger m3000, what I'm doing this year is keeping a 3rd degree Chambered and tss ghost loaded on the shell lifter. If a bird hangs up past 40 all I have to do is slowly reach up and eject the 3rd degree and the tss is ready to quietly hop in and go to work
I really appreciate this review. I just started Turkey hunting and Im using the new 3rd degree ammo. Im gonna have to try some of that other ammo. Thanks for this video.
Thx for doing this! Great info. I think a standard non choke barrel with these loads compared to same loads through a choke would be a cool video. Grandpas old break open vs modern mossberg shoot out...
You hit the nail on the head with 3rd Degree! I said it was good for a beginner keeping thier shots definitely under 40 yrds!! Truth it is brother! Good job!
Thanks Michael. Stay tuned I will be posting extensive results of round two only this time in 20 Ga. Longbeard Xr, Apex, and federal tss and possibly others.
That was OUTSTANDING With out a doubt one of the best done videos I have ever seen on CZcams. Thank you for a extremely well done and very informative video.
Great video Caleb! I'm a Winchester Longbeard guy myself (3 1/2" #5's). I might get a box of 3rd degree just for the #spurtape :) Good luck this year bub!
Had to sub after watching this review! Best by far that I have watched. Have to try this in the Mossberg 930 that I have just won. Don’t know much about shotguns but this one came with 4 chokes, one is a turkey choke, and also won a Kicks High Flyer choke too!
Very impressed 👏 on your comparison. After this snow ❄ breaks here in Pennsylvania I need do same have test new shotguns groups yet. I know my mossberg 500 long barrel shoot high with #4 shot turkey and hevie-shot #6
By far the best head to head comparison I’ve seen to date. If nothing else it shows there ain’t much difference from shell to shell in modern turkey ammo but the added amount of shot per shell you get by going to a tss load all the while gaining or at minimum equaling the load weight of comparable lead or heavier then lead/tungsten alloys, definitely isn’t a gimmick. Not to mention that tss really shines in the smaller gauges like 20ga and 410 bore. It now gives youth hunters, smaller women hunters and or handicapped hunters a viable option for recoil management as compared to 3” or 3.5” 12ga magnums that most hunters considered mandatory to ethically kill a long beard prior. They can now shoot smaller bore shotguns and confidently make kills out to 40 yards easily never noticing or thinking about what punishment awaits that trigger pull and where as they might otherwise become gun shy or worse, give turkey hunting/shooting firearms up completely, they now can add to our tradition and keep the sport alive and growing. I gotta ask. How do u like the tss from Federal. Is it worth it. I shoot a Benelli SBE2 and usually shoot Magnum Blend 3.5” shells. Should I try the stuff
One of the best turkey ammo reviews I have seen on CZcams so far. Great job and keep up the good work. Good luck this spring! Oh and I do like me that Longbeard XR! My only criticism would be that you should have done one shot in the 5-10 yard range. It's the one range where the I think the Longbeard looses a step to loads like the 3rd Degree. Great job again.
Ill tell you what! Winchester has it figured out with there ammo.especily turkey loads.ive been turkey hunting for over 20 years & sure seen the ammo improve over the years.ive shot a couple other brands thru the years but the past 6 years winchester is the only shell i will put in my shotgun for deer & turkey.thanks for the video.great stuff!
That ole mossberg is a keeper for sure. I’ve patterned a lot of shotguns and shot a lot of shotgun still target competitions and most all shotguns are like shooting a sloppy shooting rifle, most of the times you get groups that are up down right and left but that Mossberg is dead on all the time. Great job and keep the videos coming please.
Very interesting video comparison. It really makes me feel good about the Indian creek choke for my 1187 and longbeard xr ammo I just picked up. Plan on getting out and patterning it soon.
One of the best reviews. And the only critique would of made this perfect,would of been using the same target for all the loads. Damn, good job brother.
For as long as I’ve hunted turkey, I’ve used 2 3/4” 12 gauge 4,5, or 6 shot lead pheasant loads for turkey and they’ve worked just fine. Call them within 30 yards and you don’t need tungsten, copper plated, etc. More than half the fun is calling them in close.
That's what my uncle's and grandpa taught me to use rem long range 2 3/4 1 1/4 oz 4,5,6 and have used them for years don't need a 10 dollar shell to kill a turkey
I was mostly interested in the federal tss load. I've patterned most of the others except the 3rd degree. I always like to see what someone else is shooting and the results they are getting. My son and I have killed alot of gobblers with rhe magblends until I started with a friends handloaded tss in 12& 20ga. Wicked stuff for sure. Also enjoyed your recent hunt too. Have a great season!
Best patterning video I've watched. Comparing loads with different shot sizes and payloads may be a little misgiving when counting holes in paper but still a good comparison. I shoot the XR Longbeards 3" #5's. Remington 870 21" barrel with Indian Creek .665. This is one deadly combination!! Only thing I've ever liked better was Winchester Extended Range. Hated to see that go!!! Jus wondered if you have ever tried any Kent TK7 Penetrator loads??
Federal made the flite control flex wad in their black cloud duck and goose loads too and they work great. I had a chance to try em out this past duck and goose season here in TN.
Very good comparison video I’ve liked if you used the same target you used in the XP’s cuz they are waaaay better than those caldwell ones other than that those magnums and XP’s are bad with a capital B
I’ve patterned most of those with the same results! I’m shooting a 835, 24” barrel, sumtoy .675 choke, Williams fire sights, libsaver recoil pad shooting the longbeard 3.5” #4’ ..... its RIDICULOUS!!!!
Dude that is the best review on shot gun ammo I have seen yet but where you shot turkeys I shoot bob cats that are eating my chickens and the longest shot I have made yet is just over 40 yards with a 12 gauge with a 3 1/2" #4 though it still ran ten feet before dropping ...
Great evaluation. May I suggest a change for the next test, standardize the target if possible. The orange caldwell target doesn't exaggerate the hits the same way the black back targets do. All in all the best turkey ammo test out there.
Get a Mossberg 835/935 with a Rhino choke and Nitro heavyshot 4/5/7 or Notro TSS and it’ll blow all them patterns away! But you got some good ens there, good video too!
Old 20 gauge single my dad bought me when I was 10, 55 years ago. Changed the butt stock to adult size. Remington 20 gauge #6 Pheasant load $6.00 a box of 25 1220 fps. 1 ounce of lead, plenty if your sighted in. Hunting for $150.00 or less. All the rest is sales and profit margin.
Great video but since longbeards usually shoot different than other loads you may need to re-zero for all the rounds to get the most accurate results. Again great video.
@@TheNaturalCalling I'm very intrested in the new federal TSS. I've taken birds out at 70 yd with the Winchester long beard XR but that number 9 shot seems like it would be very interesting
I'll be honest...my Mossberg 935 with Longbeard XR choke tube, topped off with a Weaver Kasapa Turkey plex scope and Longbeard Xr 3 1/2" no. 5's shoot and pattern at 50 yards like yours does at 20 yards. I like em tight not opened up.
the 3rd degree has a flight control wad and it needs a less constricting choke so it doesnt break apart under pressure at the end of the choke but im not hating still a very good review
This video is great. I say use what ammo & choke tube work best for you in a turkey hunting situation.. They all kill turkeys when used properly.. My Personal turkey hunting gun setup consist of a Remington Sp10 using Federal Mag Shok 10ga 2oz #5's with a Primo's JellyHead choke tube & it's light out devastating on turkey..
Pa Turkey Hunter I hear the browning 10 is solid after an aftermarket spring kit. I don't use the SP10 for turkey, I only bowhunt for them but the the 10 can bring the noise for geese!
PezMan I feel your pain.. I couldn't belive Remington discontinued the Sp10.. My Sp10 is deadly on Turkey's & I'm looking forward to using my new Browning Gold 10ga on geese this Sept season here in Pa.. Both shoot great..
Hands down best turkey ammo review I’ve seen on CZcams. Very unbiased for all brands. Excellent job
Thank you brother. Hope it helps
They need to make longbeard xr faster like 1300 fps @TheNaturalCalling
By far the best patterning video out there. Properly done
You did a great job on the review. Best I have seen on ammo review turkey loads.
Fantastic video. Did a great job of not only comparing shells but stressing the importance of doing this yourself.
I am impressed with the Longbeard XR on this video. Great video!!
Best comparison video on the web. Thanks for putting the time, energy and $ into this. I just bought a mossberg 835 and was unsure about what ammo to try.
Me too, 6 years later lol
Fantastic video. The discussion seems to always head down the path of "every gun is different". But they aren't that different and a good shell is a good shell for the most part. It's great to be able to learn from a video like this and save some money as well as shoulder meat. Thank you!
Excellent review PERIOD. Totally objective from beginning to end. Have experimented with the same ammo and leadsled combination myself although with a TC ProHunter 20ga. Max range for me was out to 40 yards. Same results ………. I have elected to stick with the Longbeard, they flat out work. Keep up the great work.
Great information and thanks for taking the time and also your expense to compare these loads! Good hunting this Spring!!!
Very good 👍 the best video I've seen on turkey loads. Thank you for taking the time and money to test. I usually use Winchester #5 but picked up a box of 3" #9 TSS. Illinois just drop the minimum shot size from #7.5 to any. As long as it's #4 or smaller.
Great video! You diffently broke the bank on this review,thanks brother! I love the LRs
This might be the best turkey ammo review I’ve ever seen. The one consistency I see between all the turkey ammo review videos is that magnum blend and long-beard XR are the top dogs.
Best turkey ammo review ever! Well done!
Prepping for my first shot at bagging a turkey, very informative and well put together video. Thanks man!
Great review/comparison. I have used the longbeard for several years but since I don't get many days to hunt, I am switching to the heavy loads to get a few extra yards past my normal 40 yrd limit. This gave me a real side by side without the investment or bruises.
Nice review. Was glad to see test at longer ranges. I used to test my 1187 Turkey gun at 50 yards. Your gun/choke combo shoots very well.
Great video!! My son & I watched it and found it very useful. His 8 yrs old and in a few weeks will hunt for first time. Keep the videos coming brother!
How did your son make out last year?
Excellent video on the performance of today’s offerings in turkey shot!
Amazing content, I see it's a little older I'm headed to your page to see what's new. Good review 👍
Very good info and video! I shoot a Stoeger m3000, what I'm doing this year is keeping a 3rd degree Chambered and tss ghost loaded on the shell lifter. If a bird hangs up past 40 all I have to do is slowly reach up and eject the 3rd degree and the tss is ready to quietly hop in and go to work
Awesome!! I love long beard just wish they would make them for the 10ga.thanks for taking the time to do this video.
Eric Platt they do or at least they did I got some my dad gave me and there still killing turkeys
Thanks for taking the time and also spending the money for this video! I know most won't think of it the same way but I know because I have a channel!
Great review and can’t wait for the season to start already!
Best shotgun shell comparison I’ve seen. Must have cost you a fortune!!
Nice, informative, fairly unbiased. Thanks much!
Best turkey load review I've seen
Good review. Best one I've been able to find. Thanks
The greatest comparison video on CZcams.
Very comprehensive review. Nicely done!
Excellent pattern video. Maybe best I've seen. Wish I could get my hands on that kind of ammo now.
I really appreciate this review. I just started Turkey hunting and Im using the new 3rd degree ammo. Im gonna have to try some of that other ammo. Thanks for this video.
Did you try something different? How did it go?
Thx for doing this! Great info. I think a standard non choke barrel with these loads compared to same loads through a choke would be a cool video. Grandpas old break open vs modern mossberg shoot out...
You hit the nail on the head with 3rd Degree! I said it was good for a beginner keeping thier shots definitely under 40 yrds!! Truth it is brother! Good job!
Thanks Michael. Stay tuned I will be posting extensive results of round two only this time in 20 Ga. Longbeard Xr, Apex, and federal tss and possibly others.
That was OUTSTANDING
With out a doubt one of the best done videos I have ever seen on CZcams. Thank you for a extremely well done and very informative video.
Thank you! More to come. Stay tuned
Very informative video, lots of time and money making this - much appreciated…
Great video Caleb! I'm a Winchester Longbeard guy myself (3 1/2" #5's). I might get a box of 3rd degree just for the #spurtape :) Good luck this year bub!
Had to sub after watching this review! Best by far that I have watched. Have to try this in the Mossberg 930 that I have just won. Don’t know much about shotguns but this one came with 4 chokes, one is a turkey choke, and also won a Kicks High Flyer choke too!
How did the gun fare for you? What setup did you use?
This was enlightening, thank you!
Very impressed 👏 on your comparison. After this snow ❄ breaks here in Pennsylvania I need do same have test new shotguns groups yet. I know my mossberg 500 long barrel shoot high with #4 shot turkey and hevie-shot #6
I agree with Cody Harper. Outstanding review.
By far the best head to head comparison I’ve seen to date. If nothing else it shows there ain’t much difference from shell to shell in modern turkey ammo but the added amount of shot per shell you get by going to a tss load all the while gaining or at minimum equaling the load weight of comparable lead or heavier then lead/tungsten alloys, definitely isn’t a gimmick. Not to mention that tss really shines in the smaller gauges like 20ga and 410 bore. It now gives youth hunters, smaller women hunters and or handicapped hunters a viable option for recoil management as compared to 3” or 3.5” 12ga magnums that most hunters considered mandatory to ethically kill a long beard prior. They can now shoot smaller bore shotguns and confidently make kills out to 40 yards easily never noticing or thinking about what punishment awaits that trigger pull and where as they might otherwise become gun shy or worse, give turkey hunting/shooting firearms up completely, they now can add to our tradition and keep the sport alive and growing. I gotta ask. How do u like the tss from Federal. Is it worth it. I shoot a Benelli SBE2 and usually shoot Magnum Blend 3.5” shells. Should I try the stuff
George Cesarini agree with you 100% about the TSS. Its a good thing if people use it correctly. Overall the Federal TSS did well. I would recommend.
That was a great bit of info!
Great video, I'm going to have to pick up some #7 TSS to try, we can't use number 9 in Ontario
One of the best turkey ammo reviews I have seen on CZcams so far. Great job and keep up the good work. Good luck this spring! Oh and I do like me that Longbeard XR! My only criticism would be that you should have done one shot in the 5-10 yard range. It's the one range where the I think the Longbeard looses a step to loads like the 3rd Degree. Great job again.
Body Shot.
Why would you ever let a gobbler get that close. 10-15 yds. Maybe in a blind with a bow but not a shot gun
Ill tell you what! Winchester has it figured out with there ammo.especily turkey loads.ive been turkey hunting for over 20 years & sure seen the ammo improve over the years.ive shot a couple other brands thru the years but the past 6 years winchester is the only shell i will put in my shotgun for deer & turkey.thanks for the video.great stuff!
Great job man i like the idea behind that tss
That ole mossberg is a keeper for sure. I’ve patterned a lot of shotguns and shot a lot of shotgun still target competitions and most all shotguns are like shooting a sloppy shooting rifle, most of the times you get groups that are up down right and left but that Mossberg is dead on all the time. Great job and keep the videos coming please.
Very interesting video comparison. It really makes me feel good about the Indian creek choke for my 1187 and longbeard xr ammo I just picked up. Plan on getting out and patterning it soon.
Thanks brother. Keep an eye on your poa. The pattern will be tight, no doubt. Good luck!
How did it pattern? Any luck in the woods?
Really good video. Thank you for this!
One of the best reviews. And the only critique would of made this perfect,would of been using the same target for all the loads. Damn, good job brother.
Thank you and thanks for watching. Hope it helps. New ammo reviews have been uploaded. Check them out if interested.
For as long as I’ve hunted turkey, I’ve used 2 3/4” 12 gauge 4,5, or 6 shot lead pheasant loads for turkey and they’ve worked just fine. Call them within 30 yards and you don’t need tungsten, copper plated, etc. More than half the fun is calling them in close.
Exactly. Hearing that gobble come closer is the whole reason I’m there. Let them come in close.
That's what my uncle's and grandpa taught me to use rem long range 2 3/4 1 1/4 oz 4,5,6 and have used them for years don't need a 10 dollar shell to kill a turkey
You’ve got that right. Call em in close and shoot straight. Don’t rely on a $10 shell to make up for lack of hunting skill and marksmenship.
YOU MUST HAVE 100% DUMB BIRDS SOME GET HUNG UP AT40 -50 YDS. THEN WHAT? HAND GRENADES!!!
The best turkey ammo comparison by far. Kudos for including the premium ammo vs the basic lead loads vs longbeards.
Trky Hntr hope it was helpful in some way.
I was mostly interested in the federal tss load. I've patterned most of the others except the 3rd degree. I always like to see what someone else is shooting and the results they are getting.
My son and I have killed alot of gobblers with rhe magblends until I started with a friends handloaded tss in 12& 20ga. Wicked stuff for sure. Also enjoyed your recent hunt too. Have a great season!
Trky Hntr well stay tuned im uploading some hunts within the next few days of putting the federal tss to use.
Looking forward to it!
Excellent review! 🦃 😀
Best patterning video I've watched. Comparing loads with different shot sizes and payloads may be a little misgiving when counting holes in paper but still a good comparison. I shoot the XR Longbeards 3" #5's. Remington 870 21" barrel with Indian Creek .665. This is one deadly combination!! Only thing I've ever liked better was Winchester Extended Range. Hated to see that go!!! Jus wondered if you have ever tried any Kent TK7 Penetrator loads??
Great video, nice job ! 👍
Thank you for the review!
Federal made the flite control flex wad in their black cloud duck and goose loads too and they work great. I had a chance to try em out this past duck and goose season here in TN.
Hevi shot #6 3" here in a beretta 26" barrel, does the trick every time even out to 60yards.
how much did that gun cost you I might get one for next yr?
Awesome video, heavyweight, heavy shot, and tss give better patterns in 680 choke range....
Great job. Thanks a million!
Mossberg 500. Undertaker choke. NitroTurkey/SuperX/DoubleX/longboard XR all have taken birds for me out to 40 yds :). Good video! Thx!
Great video, I'm definitely a long beard fan.
Best turkey ammo video on CZcams period ! Thank you for sacrificing your shoulder and wallet to bring us that! Wow!
Very good comparison video I’ve liked if you used the same target you used in the XP’s cuz they are waaaay better than those caldwell ones other than that those magnums and XP’s are bad with a capital B
Great job on getting all that ammo
Lucky to find one brand of ammo here
This video is from 2018
When I saw that stack of great turkey loads I KNEW I was in the right place!!!!!!!!!!
I’ve patterned most of those with the same results! I’m shooting a 835, 24” barrel, sumtoy .675 choke, Williams fire sights, libsaver recoil pad shooting the longbeard 3.5” #4’ ..... its RIDICULOUS!!!!
Great review, great video.
Ain't nothing like them gobblers!!!!! Great video bud!!!
Dude that is the best review on shot gun ammo I have seen yet but where you shot turkeys I shoot bob cats that are eating my chickens and the longest shot I have made yet is just over 40 yards with a 12 gauge with a 3 1/2" #4 though it still ran ten feet before dropping ...
Great evaluation. May I suggest a change for the next test, standardize the target if possible. The orange caldwell target doesn't exaggerate the hits the same way the black back targets do. All in all the best turkey ammo test out there.
klappy803 I agree
Yes you kept everything else the same. Once again great video
Get a Mossberg 835/935 with a Rhino choke and Nitro heavyshot 4/5/7 or Notro TSS and it’ll blow all them patterns away! But you got some good ens there, good video too!
Thanks for the awesome video and review
Old 20 gauge single my dad bought me when I was 10, 55 years ago. Changed the butt stock to adult size. Remington 20 gauge #6 Pheasant load $6.00 a box of 25 1220 fps. 1 ounce of lead, plenty if your sighted in. Hunting for $150.00 or less. All the rest is sales and profit margin.
Great video but since longbeards usually shoot different than other loads you may need to re-zero for all the rounds to get the most accurate results. Again great video.
Nice. Be Hard to beat this video on Turkey loads nice job!
Thanks for watching! Subscribe if you want to stay tuned. More videos ahead!
Great video
A great review. Thanks for sharing this.
Thanks, Hopefully it's helpful! I recently uploaded another comparison video in 20 GA. on the channel if your interested.
@@TheNaturalCalling I'm very intrested in the new federal TSS. I've taken birds out at 70 yd with the Winchester long beard XR but that number 9 shot seems like it would be very interesting
RIP to this man's shoulder
Nah. He has it lead sledded. He be aight! 😂
I like those Longbeards a lot. But I may put a TSS in the barrel for my Florida trip this coming spring. Hope I get a gift card for Christmas.
I'll be honest...my Mossberg 935 with Longbeard XR choke tube, topped off with a Weaver Kasapa Turkey plex scope and Longbeard Xr 3 1/2" no. 5's shoot and pattern at 50 yards like yours does at 20 yards. I like em tight not opened up.
Good demo on various shotgun rounds.
the 3rd degree has a flight control wad and it needs a less constricting choke so it doesnt break apart under pressure at the end of the choke but im not hating still a very good review
Great vid!
I have always shot Winchester double x 12 guage 3 inch and have killed plenty of longbeards with them but I am going to use long beard xr from now on
Thanks for the great video...unfortunately here in California there is no lead allowed...definitely narrows the choices down
Thanks for the info, opening day next week is my first
Great video by the way
Got 3rd degree on clearance for $5 per box so I picked a few up. It patterned okay out of my Vinci
awesome video sir very informative . i shoot the long beard XR 5s in three inch and it will kill easy out too 50 yards !
Good stuff right there!!
Good video
Great job!
Very very good. Great job
Thanks for such an informative video! Just wondering if you are going to do a video on the benelli?
TJ M Possibly! Thanks for watching!
I love what those 3 1/2 do but damn that kick like a son of a gun lol
Great video. If you do it again please use all the same targets.
Longbeard xr matched with a trulock shot size specific choke is a very deadly combination
This video is great. I say use what ammo & choke tube work best for you in a turkey hunting situation.. They all kill turkeys when used properly.. My Personal turkey hunting gun setup consist of a Remington Sp10 using Federal Mag Shok 10ga 2oz #5's with a Primo's JellyHead choke tube & it's light out devastating on turkey..
Was very sad when the SP10 went out of production
PezMan I feel your pain that is exactly why I ordered a Browning Gold 10 to take its place if anything ever should happen
Pa Turkey Hunter I hear the browning 10 is solid after an aftermarket spring kit. I don't use the SP10 for turkey, I only bowhunt for them but the the 10 can bring the noise for geese!
PezMan I feel your pain.. I couldn't belive Remington discontinued the Sp10.. My Sp10 is deadly on Turkey's & I'm looking forward to using my new Browning Gold 10ga on geese this Sept season here in Pa.. Both shoot great..
Great Review
Great vid Man U sure had to spend a lot of money on all them turkey loads 👍
Jackson hunter and farmer 26 Hope it was helpful. Thanks for watching!