Replacing College Degrees with Practical Training? | The View
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First, be clear: College used to be free or nearly free. So, premise this entire conversation on the fact that college has gotten shamefully expensive. The States used to subsidize much of the cost and colleges used to be more responsible with costs. So, before we can have a conversation about the cost benefit of college, first address COST.
College is EXPENSIVE and Americans are opting out and away from it, as a *"duh-gree"* is cost prohibitive.
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College just simply ISN'T for EVERYBODY okay @shadetails2133.
Depending on the college and where you live it still can be mostly free. Financial aid such as FAFSA is an option and community and state college are often way more affordable. The vaule of many degrees are not what they use to be and the risk of taking on loans/debt is a problem tho.
I'm so glad they cut Whoopi off. lol
We can complain all day about college costs, but if we keep electing people who won't do anything about it nothing will change.
I hope you understand that will never change!!! Just like gun laws, wars and abortion. It’s just a way to keep us entertained and arguing
We did elect someone who will do something about it and in his defense he tried and did something. But I am honestly certain this is the most that will be done in regards to cost of college
@@javiruiz8365abortion changed not the way I wanted it to but it changed
Yet another gripe I have. We don't teach kids practical skills in high school any more. Not how to balance your earnings, no more home economics, no cooking or sewing classes, which those were the best classes I took when I was a kid.
I agree with Joy. The best part of good universities is that they teach you how to think critically and independently. They need to be way more affordable so more people can go. High schools should also be doing that more so that all of our young people learn those skill sets.
The problem is ever since public schools were integrated, education funding has been cut here and there, especially in art and music. As much as not everyone is meant for a four-year college, not everyone's meant to work with their hands.
Funny how people who listen to indoctrination networks (Fox, OAN, Newsmax) say universities are places of indoctrination for having critical independent thinking
Right.
That’s why private schools are better!! My high schools taught me more than college. College was a joke compared to my catholic private prep school
That’s why people should not be shitting children out if they can’t afford to give them a proper education.
Alyssa and Sarah were both on point for this one. It's not that people don't have dreams of higher education and doing a career they want to do, it's that people simply, just can not afford it so they have to do something more practical and cost effective and sometimes that may not even be a possibility.
The simple fact of the matter is a single semester at the most cost effective schools is somewhere between 5-8k and the majority of lower middle class and poor families can't even afford that much, even with grants (which are shrinking and the qualifications to apply for one are becoming stricter and stricter) and scholarships (which come with thier own set of issues from being highly competitive and often times are still not enough to cover a fraction of the cost for university)
Not to mention ever increasing student debt which is practically unpayable because wages have been stagnant across the board for over 2 decades and have not kept up with external economic factors and increasing interest rates of student loans.
All of this is to say, it's no wonder that people in each new generation are choosing to largely forego higher education and look into other alternatives such as trade school, becoming streamers, nsfw jobs, or looking to climb the corporate ladder at what would be considered less than desirable entry level positions.
Because they’re both the only young people on the show everybody else is over the age of 50 and was born half a century ago
Joy is correct. I was a very narrow minded person before college. Liberal Arts, Social Science courses helped me question my way of thinking.
It definitely opens your mind and teaches critical thinking.
@@Grateful999 Yes. If we only think about what economic value education brings, we already failed.
Agreed, it most definitely provides the beginnings of a persons foundation in a way and the way the articulate themselves in this very competitive world we live in 😮💨
Some people are just not meant to go to college, Trade Schools are not given enough credit. Whoopi made a great point.
Yes!!! And she is the 1 percent that is able to say that!! Sunny went to college and so did her mother and her husband and her child to Elite schools. Joy went to college! Sara went to college. Ana went to college. Alissa went to college. Not everyone can become a millionaire like Whoopi or be able to afford everything without a proper education
YES, EXACTLY & Whoopi's right on that too as well okay @batgurrl.
I simply was not built for college and accepted that years ago. I was also very lucky that I had a family that got it and never pushed me. I am a hard, dedicated worker and was blessed to have had a lot of wonderful mentors along the way. 3 years shy of retirement from working in law firms and now for a large educational institution in fundraising. And I TOTALLY agree about Trade Schools not getting enough credit. We really need the trades!
Plenty of people have ended up in dire financial straits as a result of some of these trade and technical schools. A lot of the student loan debt that was forgiven was from students that had attended scam trade and technical schools. I think at the end of the day people need to do cost benefit analysis on any form of higher learning and do their research on the institutes they attend and career prospects of the field they choose to go into.
@@solStarlette people need to research their choices before they make any decisions. People need to consider going to their own state universities, much more affordable. Those geographically HUGE states, sparsely populated could also have crappy state run colleges. If people aren’t well to do, or not able to get scholarships, if they make an elitist choice to choose a university they CANNOT afford, it seems like they need lessons in common sense to start their ‘adult lives’
Joy always imparts wisdom at this table. A chunk of bacheloring is court courses in literature, humanities and other necessary common knowledge. The problem with our education is that a bachelor’s is expensive, a master is expensive and a phd is expensive. If you lower the cost of at least 4 yr 2yr schools, then people would certainly benefit from going at least for common knowledge.
@IM125, many students are now going to the 2 year colleges and then going on to the college/university to finish that is a great a money saver.
Education in any form is important. College is not for everyone and that is okay, but find some way to get educated if that is through trade school or some other medium. Many people leave college unprepared for the real world too (engineers not knowing financial literacy, etc).
There are public libraries. The New York Public Library is famously known ad "the people's university." Many a person become highly educated by making frequent library visits.
I was at a retirement seminar and the speaker spoke on how he quit his job after he made well over
$950,000 PROFIT within 3months he invested
$120,000. I just need creative ideas to afford my retirement
Same I feel like I'm missing out on quality time with my loved ones because I'm always working to make ends meet. It's frustrating.
College was the biggest regret of my life. Wasted my 20's retaking useless classes, and now I have insane student debt that I will never pay off.
Did you do YOUR VERY BEST?
Or did you Fk around?
There is a Giant difference.
@@moniqueengleman873I agree with him to an extent. I have both my bachelors and masters degrees for a profession that after 12 years has never paid me a fraction of the student debt I’ve amassed and now require a “certification” to gain promotions, get ahead, or earn a substantial salary. That requires additional schooling, meaning additional debt. Yet somewhere, there are ppl making millions having learned a trade/skill, or making TikTok videos on grilled cheese sandwiches. For those who don’t come from generational wealth or upper class communities, college is essentially a scam.
Same! Never finished and I remember a lot of stress and not having any money
I’m successful and I also have a ton of student debt. But I wonder if I didn’t get an education would I be worse off in different ways and I think yes
@@moniqueengleman873 why is always about blaming the student. YOU stfu college is not easy
I agree with Joy’s philosophy about going to college to open your mind. People can go to state colleges in their own states or City College in City College’s in highly populated cities. Much more affordable.
I got something that will open your mind: real world experience. Something that college will never teach you
@@felwinter7883 I’m 64, born in Brooklyn NY. College taught me academia, not how to survive in NYC. The average person cannot get a decent paying job without a college degree
@@batgurrl well I'm here to tell you as a self taught chef has a " decent job " it was easier in your generation to go to school but we need to survive and actually make money now
@@felwinter7883 cry me a river, snowflake
My Dad was a high school teacher 1950’s til the 80’s. At one point he taught in a vocational school. They learned a trade. They could major in electronics, plumbing, mechanics, beautician, etc. My Dad was very impressed with the education of students in that school. He praised them for their knowledge and dedication since they were doing whatever they wanted to be trained in in addition to a general high school curriculum. I know that a college education opens doors that may have been closed, however, I strongly believe that there should be vocational training available for those students who are not interested in college. Everyone should be prepared to enter the workforce and be prepared to support themselves and their families.
College is not for everyone. You have trades schools, and other stuff that Kids can do but college is not for everybody.
Whoopi is right, both of my kids came out of college with credit card debt with the discover card, and they both have loan debts😢
As European it‘s interesting how Americans always believe ‚in the market‘ and then they are surprised if areas like education, health care etc. are getting insanely expensive. The market wants to make maximum profits if you let them
It’s because we have a huge population and only 2 states provide the most income to everyone. Just imagine if Europe was all together and just France and Italy provided for every other country. This is how the USA works. That’s why we can’t have what other countries have. If nyc and California separated themselves every other state would be broke and we would be the only ones with free healthcare and free college
Usually it's the opposite. If there's competition for products, in this case education, then the prices usually stay competitive. The problem is that our government won't let us buy healthcare on the open market and set price controls to benefit corporations.
Well we have a capitalism system over here that really needs to be reworked. The issue is, people believe if we pay people less, we don't get a good product. Well that's not necessarily true. What happens is these tycoons get in washington and cause policies that benefit them but hurt those that they feed off of. The trickle down effect happens and now everybody is is in a rucus. Long story short in order for us to see the same kind of free education and commerce over here like everywhere else, the tycoons needs to stop being money hungry.
Degrees are overrated. In the corporate world you think that having or getting one will give you more pay and a lot of times it doesn't.
Yes, Joy! College is not only about making money. It can be, and often it is, because people who are educated, who can think logically and have confidence in their own ideas, will often be more successful in business. But sometimes they will just be happier and more successful in life. Education often turns out better citizens, parents and even partners. No shade on all great parents, etc., but I think the value of education is the general enrichment it offers a person.
👏👏👏I agree completely
I have two college degrees.. I’ll tell you from experience that you need experience more than you need degrees. Yes they will give you a leg up.. but experience is everything!
I am working on my PhD, but in high school, I was a trade school student for my freshman through senior years. Half the time I spent in "regular school" and the other half was at the vocational-technical school. I learned all about data processing and coding in the late 80s. I never took a college prep course. I ended up going back to university when I was 40 and finished my undergraduate in 2012. I now have two Masters and am writing my PhD dissertation. It was BECAUSE I was prepared for real life through vo-tech and working at a job during high school. We need people who are talented and creative in practical occupations. There is value in vocational degrees/programs, as much as there is in college degrees. We have far too many MBAs in the US.
what are your degrees in?
@@krizsurya1 I have a master of science in psychology and master of education. My PhD is in transformative studies and my research focus is helping people overcome trauma in the LGBTQ community through deconstructing and reconstructing their personal narrative.
I discovered that my highly intelligent ex fiancé couldn’t change a tire. We both stood on the side of the highway at 4am for 2 hours waiting for AAA to come change our tire. That was an eye opening moment for me. I agree with Joy on this one. I could’ve stood on the side of the road for 2 hours by myself. 👩🏽 😑
College is a good way to go further in life but the truth is, it's not for everybody. It shouldn't be the only option, trade schools should also be an option if someone doesn't have a desire to go to a university.
There are plenty of options of trade schools, no one is stopping anyone from going.
The choice of going to college versus, trade school or pursuing a completely different path depends on the person and their family. Parents should also be guiding their kids, not just the school.
Have to agree with Whoopi. They never explained to me what I was signing up for by going into debt. If I would have known what I know now I would have never even attempted a higher education. But I went because everyone else was telling me to. Now I’m in debt with no prospect of a well paying job. I don’t agree with everything Biden has done but he has helped me breath on the student loans at least.
You can network anywhere Sunny
I'm 75 and went to UCSB in 1968. Tuition was about $125 a quarter. I lived in the dorm and that cost me about $100 a month- including meals - ate meals in dining commons. Books were about $50-$60 a quarter. Very Cheap compared to now.
Education is about more than $$$$.
An informed citizenry is essential to a functional
democracy. (see Trump voters' ignorance)
Joy said it well, an open mind rejects mindless hate!
Unfortunately, there were a ton of highly educated, upper middle class and wealthy people who voted for Trump.
Ain't that the truth, but educated obviously does'nt
mean smart! or good! or having a moral center@@lindiwengwevela524
Yeah, ok….
Yes, yes, yes! In fact, trade schools are more about money than universities. Universities turn out people who can think, and who can analyse the thoughts and ideas of others. An uneducated public is easily misled.
I have seven learning disabilities due to surgery for an unexpected brain hemorrhage that I had in sixth grade (including trouble writing by hand, although I type).
My father is a college professor so it was important to him that I worked as hard as I could and go to college - and I did manage to get a BA at a small liberal arts college where I had a partial scholarship. My heart really goes out to students with disabilities who don't have the type of needed family support and encouragement that I did, which is why I now work for a nonprofit to help others who also have disabilities.
Im a little surprised at what Sunny said about places kicking people out...by law, every college and university has and is supposed to have a resource center for those who struggle. In my experience and those of folks ive known, schools are willing to meet people where thay are at and accommodate the needs across the board.
I agree with Joy. I attended college as an adult in my 30s and my eyes were opened to a whole new world. Even when I took classes that I felt had nothing to do with my degree, Accounting. For example, Biology, Psychology, Ethics…. All are important and you revisit these subjects often in life and business.
One of most valuable things I learned in college was to question authority and advocate for myself. Those lessons are priceless.
College is also learning how to learn not memorizing dates and information. Also it helps social skills in and launching into society from a safe space. When I did it it was affordable snd subsidized by the state.
Education for the sake of education. That's why I watch your show, read and absorb whenever and wherever I am able. Just living is a neverending psychology course. 😊 💙💙💙
Knowledge for its own sake. There is nothing as enriching and rewarding.
So, I went and got my bachelors degree in political sciences with my GI Bill. Then I went back for my master’s degree so I can become employable. I now work for $16.50 an hour as an office assistant and now I’m paying off my $50,000 in college debt which I’ll probably never pay off all based on the lie of making so much money after I get done with college.
Yep. College is the longest running scam we have going
Liberal arts education is very important, I agree.
Vocational skills are important
You better believe it, especially when you're applying for a job.
College is important because you gain knowledge. Any education and knowledge that you receive is useful because of that alone in my opinion. Also, people have to remember that a degree does not automatically transfer into making a lot of money, especially not automatically.
You can gain knowledge from youtube
Yes, but it doesn't replace college, especially in the age we are living in. Things still have to be verified from here sometimes, too.
Last I heard about students and credit cards is this. If a bank is on campus to give out credit cards and that debt is not paid off by graduation the student does on get their diploma. Credit cards given out by the family bank is a different story. Some students come out owing as much on their cards as they do on their student loans. My kids were taught at a young age about buying on credit cards and the interest one pays....do parents no teach their kids this any more?
I think college is only of benefit to those that truly want to learn. In my profession and life I have LITERALLY met many executives, CEO's and professionals that were ignorant. Whether it be grammar, spelling, history or social issues. And yet these very people are respected and looked up to.
And without exception when discussing their educational history, every single conversation surrounded how much they partied in college.
We have a couple of supreme court justices that admitted they did nothing but party in college.
I and too many others like me went and got a university degree taking out huge loans assuming a degree would automatically help us get into a career!! It was a big lie and I wish I didn't. I'd rather go for apprentices and vocational training that would teach me a skill with direct access to jobs than a broad theoretical education that most now could get for free via online courses which are often free
College is great, but the USA needs to make it affordable. As much as Alyssa blames universities for being greedy, the US government deserves just as much if not more blame. The US government can make public colleges affordable (or nearly free), they just choose not to.
I was the first in my family to go to college. I'm so so grateful I went. College was a mind expanding event.
College was important for me because my low budget highschool was a waste
I really needed the education and it allowed me to expand outside of environment of where I grew up. However, I agree with Sarah & Alyssa
The cost needs to be investigated and something needs to be done about it
I live in Guatemala, but have studied in the U.S. College there is too expensive. Public university in Guatemala is about 50 dollars a month and the most expensive private universities are maybe 800 dollars a month. My university here wouldn't ask us to buy books. They gave us photocopies or access to other resources so that we didn't have to spend. College in the U.S has become a very lucrative business and I don't think that will change until people start electing leaders that are willing to make those changes. The chance for a higher education shouldn't be a privilege. In Guatemala, it's more affordable but for someone who lives here private universities are still kind of expensive and the public university has its issues. I'd love to finally finish my degree but I haven't been able to afford it yet.
However, in the U.S I'd never be able to afford it and I am sure that millions of Americans feel the same. Practical experience helps, but the sad truth is that people do treat you differently when they realize you don't have a degree.
Great conversation. I remember credit card companies on my collage campus trying to sign up these young kids at school. It’s criminal and shouldn’t be allowed.
They still don’t deal with dyslexia in the schools appropriately
I went back to college and got my associates degree. The thought of continuing on after graduation and adding to my student loans put a halt to my education. Even with a bachelor's degree people are getting hired at $13.00 an hour, perhaps $15.00. Getting a college degree doesn't mean you will get paid what you're worth and deserve.
Sunny wouldn’t feel the way she feels if she wasn’t making millions and married to a doctor . Sarah and Alyssa made great points
AGREED about Sunny. Period. Sarah and Alyssa definitely made great points.
But that’s her point, that if she didn’t go to college she wouldn’t have the life she has
She is making millions because she went to college. You are just jealous!
Sunny isn’t making millions. She was making less than Abby Huntsman and Meghan McCain even though she had more experience (she worked 3 networks) and had 3 Emmys. She had to sue for discrimination to get back pay.
Totally....she is rich and she even sent her kids to private education...sent them on trips so she has no legs to stand on here
I absolutely one hundred percent believe college degrees aren’t the end all be all anymore. The reality is that back in the day for the elder generations life was very different. You got your degree and a job at a place that you’d most likely spend your life til retirement at, got married had kids owned a house. And now it’s not like that. College isn’t the end all be all anymore it doesn’t carry the same weight it once did. I believe some fields absolutely need schooling and extensive schooling at that. I don’t wanna go in a procedure to save my life with someone who doesn’t know where to operate on me. But not all fields now need that. And the one thing I’m thankful for with Covid is that due to a lot of jobs being so short handed they’ve now opened up jobs that once needed a degree for and in place offered on the job training.
Love Whoppi's jacket
The fact is most of these rich people that advocate for people to avoid college and join trade schools don't want it for their kids
I liked what Sunny said in this segment
I don't like your spam comments in this segment
Yup, I saw the credit hawkers before I ever met a professor, fellow student, TA or anyone else. I got into massive credit troubles thirty five years ago. It can still rear its haunted head from time to time. School itself is a good deal more expensive than it was back then. I have a friend who basically had a nervous breakdown when comparing how much potential jobs were offering in pay compared to her college debt.
I love how Sara has smartly brought Alyssa into this group by hearing her. Whoopi, Joy and Sunny constantly shut her down when she first joined
The View.Thank you! Well said! 😊❤
Very well said Ms. Goldberg (of course- Love you!!) I grew up working and saving so i could pay part of my college, yet as soon as i got my Credit Card in the Student Union Mall I felt this magic feeling like i could eat out in restaurants and treat friends any time. Still paying lol.
I agree with all the points with one correction. Personal debt does not transfer to another individual. If there is an estate, creditors can request their payment through the courts. States with probate laws allow for the deceased debt to be paid. The Fair Debt Laws explains in detail, and probate states do the same. This is just a little explanation to Whoopi's comment on debt being passed on. I enjoyed this topic.
Great segment. Hopefully you bring on more guests from the different schools
Almost $1 trillion in military budget annually but we can't subsidize and regulate college education???
It’s a shame, isn’t it? This administration tried for free community college, but it didn’t survive in the budget . Thankfully, a lot of states are doing that anyway.
Someone with a trade skill i have never known to be laid off. Even in the pandemic. But many degrees I always see getting laid off. And the cost of the long tetm debt for a degree isn't paying off anymore. Most business owners who are my clients don't have degrees, but all their staff and employees do.
College should be inexpensive. But, not everyone has the aptitude to go to college or even trade school. We should be talking about a living wage. Even if you work at a fast food restuarant you should be able to pay rent with 1/3 of your income or less. And frankly with AI and automation, we need to shorten the work week.
I agree Sunny ❤
I liked taking college courses at fraction of price at community College. Anthropology is the best course I ever took. When we saw a video about orangutans the males knuckle walking in millitary fashion protecting there territory. And that chimpanzees have kidnapped other chips. It was really eye opening. I enjoyed learning. Community College is the way to go.
Though I appreciate the discussion, I feel it operates on a somewhat false dichotomy, as practicality is arguably somewhat subjective. For example, a Religious Studies degree may seem somewhat impractical, at least compared to an Engineering degree, but what if the student embarking on such an academic venture wants to enter seminary, go to divinity school, or work for a faith-based nonprofit afterward? In that case, what may look impractical at first glance becomes quite practical, given that individual’s specific professional goals and sense of vocation.
Thank whoopi .....you are awesome
I agree with Joy the most!! Both my children are getting a university education. One is getting a Bachelor of Science in Nursing (practical) the other Bachelor of Science Computer Science (also practical) they both are passionate about these fields so all I can say, is education like Sunny Hostin gave me an edge to get the type of employment I wanted. Some of my siblings did not go to college to get a university degree but have other skills that have led them to what many would considered a successful life you pick up your bootstraps and if you have ambition, he will get where you want to go with or without a degree. I personally like the fact that a degree opens your mind like Joy said and it turns you on to great thinkers. For those who cannot afford a university education there’s the public library, the Internet and book stores go and educate yourself.
Canada offers universities and colleges, one offers theory and the other practical.
Facts.
I believe it depends on what you are trying to learn. I came out of poverty because of the opportunities of obtaining a student loan. I wasn't from a wealthy family and I didn't qualify for a Pell Grant either because I had 3 jobs, to take care of my family. A college education offers a very wide diversity in job opportunities with enhanced critical thinking analysis . So yes practical training is very important but we shouldn't' compare apples with oranges either, when it depends on the complexity of the job.
College is for some, depending on what you want to do. I live in a college town and it doesn’t matter whether you have a degree or not, people get jobs depending on who they know, whether they’re qualified or not. I have a degree and not using it in my work field.
I agree with Whoopi college isn’t for everyone I’ve taught for over 25 yrs I had many students who didn’t go to college but I taught CTE Career n Technical Education I pushed a trade, licensing, vocational certification n many comeback to me n tell me they’re doin well n actually make more money than me I’m soo proud of their accomplishments cuz thts wht it’s all abt help students do better even better than me
In the uk, uni is substantially cheaper, and where I live in Scotland, tuition is free. But even the debt I do rack up from student loans, after 30 years it gets scrapped completely and a majority never pay their loan of in full before then
Agree with Sunny & Joy... College teaches one how to speak intellectually, carry yourself in certain ways. However certain practical aspects should be included like workshops, career fair to teach one the networking aspects etc.
Good information today ladies
We really should have more trade schools I feel
I can see all everyone's perspectives...especially Sarah and Alyssa's,...but speaking from personal experience....I have a lot of student debt but I can unequivocally say that college opened a lot of doors for me...Not sure I'll be better off if I didn't go to college. Although, colleges need to do better.. and provide more scholarships and also thoroughly educate students on the responsibilities of taking out a student loan.
On the other hand, college is not for everyone. One can make a good livelihood after attending trade/vocational school.
Yes! A lot of colleges are kicking students out for learning disabilities and mental health setbacks. And it’s slipping through the cracks unfortunately!
Good
@@javiruiz8365 that’s not good at all!
@@javiruiz8365 that's not good at all. Stop being hateful and annoying.
I think it's absolutely wrong that they do that and it needs to be a stop to that!
For me.... i wish i didn't go to University/college for my Computer IT degree. Just ended up in debt constantly post-degree. Especially when you mix in with the current economic climate. Just puts you in this "stranglehold". The job that I got, I could've already gotten without the degree pretty much, and just worked my way up in the corporate ladder that the company was willing to pay for my training. Other then in the medical field, to the law field, and skill trades, which is what you should get your certificate for.
Young man graduates with degree in Art. Gets a job running a boiler room. Cousin spent 20 years in Navy running boiler room. Kid is the boss because going to collage proves he will stick to it. Domething wrong there.
We need to focus more on CAREER PATH first, then go get an education based on that. People work backwards, don't blindly pick a Major then be forced to find a career in that field. Then call it a scam when it doesn't go in your fav. Figure out the recipe THEN go shopping lol silly
Yeah, you pay $150k to make 45k. Vocational jobs are making more now than college grads, and don’t have the debt. Means they will be further along in the long run. No reason a 18 year old should be weighed down with 150k of debt or more unless they’re going to be a doctor , and continue to live as a broke college student/ intern until the debt is paid off.
I don’t think anyone would say education isn’t beneficial. But the way “higher education” has been framed is detrimental.
Sunny it’s not even about that. It’s just college is just too expensive…. Why don’t they mention that ???
It’s not even about *what* exactly?
she comes from privilege
@@erikprestonTV Lies.
@@Chillhard can you read ????
@@adventuresconjuan Can YOU?
I hate when Sunny as an only child with an educated mother that is a teacher and a working father can say she was born in poverty when she was not. She was not a millionaire growing up, but she never missed a meal and always had clothes and a bed to sleep.
Exactly!! One thing I hate is she always tries to paint the narrative as her being a “victim”. She was very blessed! She at least had a two parent household, with two streams of income.
You think you know everything and you don't!!!!🙄🙄🙄🙄
@@sheldoncole7276shut up
You literally have no idea what her childhood was like or if her family had other people to support that weren't part of her immediate family.
@@solStarlette yeah whoever this person is is often making ridiculous comments that are not true at all and to me blows things way out of proportion.
How do you get hired if you are just re-entering the workforce after 10 years? I have a college degree and a good resume but there’s a 10yr employment gap.
Not everyone is meant for trade school either.
Rather than saying "the support is not there, so don't go to school", why not say "schools; implement support so people who need extra can get an education they want!"
From, someone who has worked within the tertiary (college) sector down under for over a decade.
Education should be accessible. Full stop!
God bless, we haven't moved forward into the modern times yet. Learning disabilities and mental health are still not addressed!!
True words about college is absolutely true.Sunny.
Sunny is such a traditionalist lol - College isn’t the be all end all like how it use to be. I dropped out and never looked back. Best decision I could’ve made 😂😅🤷🏽♂️
College is worth it, but the cost needs to be addressed.
She said can Einstein hang wall paper lol I love Joy
Now depending on the state and the school, most universities are required to have specific facilities like a health clinic, library with study rooms for those that need tutoring. Ofcourse an Obsumands office ( I think I spelled that wrong) and other things which does trickle down to the student who's tuition pays for it. But schools like harvard, USC and big names they collect so much money from grants, alumni and god knows whatever else that they should be practically giving out free education. Even HBCU's are under funded which is why they have to charge so much.
Thank you for helping us the view thank you, Whoopi
It’s in all of our best interests to lower the cost of college significantly
Sarah looks amazing today 😊
I regret my college degree to the most; especially my graduate which left me in so much debt. It was solely based upon a passion of working in the maternal and child health field but I wish I considered a career that will provide a better income to support my family instead. I could have just volunteered to fulfill my passion.
In retrospect, I would have gone a totally different debt free route.
Me too. I regret my bachelor degree and my masters degree
@@sexychocolateablesame here. restarting a new career route as we speak at the age of 39 😢 we got this though
College is nothing but another BIG BUSINESS! “Learning things that will not be useful”, but college mandate taking absolutely silly classes so they can collect more money.
It has been like that forever in Germany.You learn a trade unless you can afford to go to College.I am also dyslexic
And you also don't go to college in order to become a nurse or physical therapist for example which means that you have so many other opportunities besides going to college. On top of that, universities here in Germany are really cheap compared to the US. I know that it still can be hard (I work part-time and also have a scholarship) but I just wanted to put it into perspective. We don't really have a tuition fee but have to pay the ,,Semesterbeitrag" which is for public transportation etc.
I needed a certain degree for my job, but to be frank very little of my actual college education really prepared me for my job.
I love that Jacket Ms Whoopi has on
Let's also be reminded when you're accepted to a University it's considered more prestigious than a college. However, for those whom have an education should be looked down upon.
It's trendy to bash college now but no one would dare go to a surgeon who wasn't formally educated or drive across a bridge that wasn't built without an educated engineer's blueprint. We need people who are formally educated and as Sunny pointed out on average they make MORE than those who are not. That's the cold hard truth. The cost of college must be addressed but the reality is that a society needs people to do jobs that require a high degree of education and skill which are jobs that provide economic mobility. People just have to be sensible in what they choose to study. For so long people have encouraged people to just "follow their passion" instead of doing what makes sense financially. Both trade school and college only works if someone is studying something that will allow them to gain skills that help them become financially independent. Not sure why people pretend that there aren't plenty of people that have also found themselves in debt and dire financial straits as a result of technical and trade schools. People need to think wisely in what skill they train in with trade schools and what they study in college.