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Alyssa is 100% on point. My mother always told me please get your own career and make your own money. She watched my aunts forced to stay in bad marriages (abuse, alcoholism, infidelity) because they depended on their husbands for money.
@@idotgotitme3280 my aunts had several kids. Both of them quit high school to get married, so they didn’t even have a HS diploma. I was too young to know what was going on, but as I got older my mother told me about how they were trapped, because they couldn’t make their own living and depended on their husbands for 100% of the income.
Alyssa had a better point, not only have/make your own money but if women don't want to work and don't want kids...you better be very fit, curvy and look like a 25yr old supermodel bc if you don't, what else are you going to bring to the table!??? Every woman believes men owe them so much for their companionship alone even if they are average looking at best, overweight, older, flat butt, flat chest, no money, etc. Why would a man want to take care of that when he could rather take care of a 25yr old in her physical prime!!! If I have to pay for every woman, I much rather take a different 25yr old on FREE dinners, lunches and dates than a 50yr old.
Not two generations ago, a housewife was a domestic job involving grocery shopping, cooking, cleaning and maintaining a household each day, regardless of children. Thanks to reality TV, people now associate being a "housewife" with leisure, luxury, and socialite activities.🤨
But everything has been made much easier with technology, for example pop everything into the washing machine and then pop it into the clothes dryer. Clothes are made of wash and wear materials. Food is already prepared or half prepared.
Food is much healthier made at home and has far less packaging. Healthier food and less packaging are better for the environment, one's health, and that prevents bad health, high medical bills, and the destruction of our planet.
Yeah but what does a man get for taking care of a woman who does not work and does not take care of children. A lot of these women don't even cook! Useless. I would never take care of a woman like that.
@@lynxo5695 Lucky to retire at 37 -- earned enough to live comfortably indefinitely. I'm starting to feel like a jerk for pointing this out. I was just laughing at the segment on the show. I'm very fortunate and it is not for everyone because you have to be very centered not to have structure in your life that a job provides.
I'm 100% behind Alyssa's point. Probably because I too am a child of divorce and single-mother parenting. Every person must have their own money. Of course, a general fund would be shared to cover household expenses, but every person must have direct control over their own separate pot of money. (Consider the top reasons for couple conflict: Cash, children, and...) I also think every person should have an identity independent of the home/family. Pretty much every man I know easily separates/prioritizes their own needs from the care of the home/family. So, this idea of an additional identity beyond home/family is not brand new. Men have been looking out for their own interests independent of their families this whole time. Even those with children must adjust to when the children leave the nest. In any case, great conversation, panel!
Well said. In the blink of an eye a person's life can change. It is empowering to be able to support yourself and not being dependent on another person.
Alyssa nailed it. I had a good job, so when my husband became violent I could manage on my own. It was a struggle, being a single mother and working full-time. Now at 65 I am retired, comfortable and can enjoy doing 'nothing' without guilt.
I'm with Sara but I retired early (for health issues) and my husband still works. We are empty-nesters. My days aren't spent doing nothing. I keep the house clean, I go grocery shopping, I work on projects around the house, I take care of our dogs, and I work on hobbies. I also volunteer occasionally. I grew up a feminist but I feel like we've gone too far in the other direction where we are as judgmental about women working outside the home as we are about men not working. If one spouse wants to stay home and it's agreed upon, then who cares? Also, there are ways to make sure that when you set up this arrangement that the spouse staying home is future-protected, monetarily. Our house is in both of our names, for instance. Consult with a financial planner.
I'm right there with you. Although I am retired now, I did work outside the home at one point, and it was easier than staying at home, lol. I stay busier at home doing all the things you mentioned...we don't sit around the house and eat bon bons all day. I still love it though. I'm also independent money wise too...my husband and I share our assets 50/50 and he wouldn't have it any other way...we've been married almost 40 years.
Agree with Alyssa that a woman should have their own money!! I know so many women friends who gave their power away to a man because of the money and these men divorced them and took it all.
My dad divorced his wife and he lost everything! He gave her the house and cars and now she can’t even pay the mortgage lol! She is asking us for money when she has daughters! I don’t even know her name or even met her! 😂😂😂
Alyssa had a better point, not only have/make your own money but if women don't want to work and don't want kids...you better be very fit, curvy and look like a 25yr old supermodel bc if you don't, what else are you going to bring to the table!??? Every woman believes men owe them so much for their companionship alone even if they are average looking at best, overweight, older, flat butt, flat chest, no money, etc. Why would a man want to take care of that when he could rather take care of a 25yr old in her physical prime!!! If I have to pay for every woman, I much rather take a different 25yr old on FREE dinners, lunches and dates than a 50yr old.
No one is arguing that. This is about all of the relationships that don't have kids. What is the woman doing?? Like Alyssa said, you better be very fit and look good bc women bring nothing else to the table!
@kbanghart But it's true. Why can't you answer the simple question? What does a woman do for a man that she is only dating. We don't have kids and live together with most of the relationships we have had in our lives. We mostly just date so no kids, no living together, no cooking and cleaning for the man. So if I am taking a woman on dates, paying for everything, chasing her everyday, protecting her, teaching her, making her laugh, making her feel special, fixing things, doing physical labor etc....then what does a woman do for a man? Bc no woman is taking care of my household. I prefer to live alone.
Sara should have never had kids. Anytime, she talks about them, she complains that they take up too much of her time yet she so wanted children. Her kids are going to need therapy when they are adults.
@@jenniferl1908that's a mom! Lol! Being a mom and wife, someone always needs you. She also has small children that require a lot of attention. When they start getting older and have more independence, she might then be able to read as many books as she wants, and have all those memories when she couldn't. It's a vicious cycle of life. And just because you talk about hardships doesn't make you wish you never had them.
I've been a stay at home housewife for 15 years. My boys were in junior/high school when I quit working. I LOVE the peace and quiet during my days now! I am extremely lucky and appreciative of all my husband does for us and vice-versa. Whatever works best for each individual and couple, without judgment 🙏♥️
Why do they think being home with no children means you have nothing to do? Clearly they don't know how mich work house work really is. With a side job to keep her independent it can work
I vaguely remember what Joy was saying about being the total woman and wrapping yourself in Saran wrap. I don’t like to comment on the panel’s looks, but whomever is doing Joys hair coloring is doing a fantastic job
That is exactly men’s point. It sounds just as ridiculous for them when women propose this on to men. All of the things you thought when he said that: “why can’t he get a job?” “Why would I have to do all of the work?” “What would he be doing while I’m not there” the list probably goes on and on is exactly what goes through men’s heads as well. Basically what I’m saying is, get a job and don’t be a child living off of another adult.
I LOVE this Alyssa woman! I don't always agree with her politics but she's smart, articulate, and compassionate...AND, she's stunning. Her outfit today is gorgeous!
Strange that most people just look at the materialistic and financial POV. What if the woman was to be a thinking partner, best moral support system and ride or die kind of housewife? That is something NOT EVERYONE can do.
I am far from a trophy wife. I am no longer young and beautiful, but there have been times where I have chosen not to work. I do not have children. My husband was fine with it. I didn't have to be perfectly coiffed and fit. If both people are fine with it why does it matter?
@@Meet23ful I'm so sorry you have bought into capitalism. You aren't contributing to society, you are making someone else rich while you work yourself to death. I have had the kind of life books are written about. You have no clue how I have contributed to society.
@cocoknows if both people are cool with it and it's a healthy relationship all power to you. I just think whenever you have a more unique dynamic in a relationship, it's easy for it to turn toxic.
@@vincentbaca790I agree it’s immensely refreshing to see her communicate her full points and flourish without the unnecessary interruptions. She’s incredible
If you were offering to be your partners assistant.... Make all their meals, laundry, help with their work tasks, get all the shopping done.. like a house manager or personal assistant, it would make sense then. Especially if their partner has a demanding job.
No, I disagree I think men who reach 50/60 are judged if they are unmarried and don't have children. Back in the day folks in the neighborhood would question their sexuality, and now folks question if they have a screw loose upstairs.
Agree with Alyssa, a woman should always have her own money. I would hate the thought of having to rely on someone financially. I like my independence and my own bank account thank you.
I loved Alyssa point, having your own money gives you a sense of independence where you font have to be accountable to anyone about how you use and spend your money
Alyssa had a better point, not only have/make your own money but if women don't want to work and don't want kids...you better be very fit, curvy and look like a 25yr old supermodel bc if you don't, what else are you going to bring to the table!??? Every woman believes men owe them so much for their companionship alone even if they are average looking at best, overweight, older, flat butt, flat chest, no money, etc. Why would a man want to take care of that when he could rather take care of a 25yr old in her physical prime!!! If I have to pay for every woman, I much rather take a different 25yr old on FREE dinners, lunches and dates than a 50yr old.
I love having a kind, generous husband who provides for us so that I am free to fill our day-to-day lives with warmth, joy, peace and romance. Our house is so happy, exciting and active. I am not stressed by work. I am completely available to be the heart of my home and community. How freeing it has been to thoroughly enjoy the wonderful privilege of being a stay-at-home wife. It is delicious.
Honestly I’m praying for this lifestyle 😭🫶🏾 I’m planning to graduate college and get my degree so I’ll have my own independent income, but mainly a childfree housewife is the move 😭
I rarely comment. Can I tell you it’s amazing? My husband totally loves it that I am there for him and we have no kids at home and married 34 years! The media wants us to think this is so rare and odd! BTW I can read and am very smart and could work any number of jobs.
Men would 100% be judged harshly if more of us chose to be "house husbands". How many women would look down on those guys, calling them lazy bums? It's a complete double standard, good to see Sara acknowledge that.
Exactly 💯 Such a double standard. Women think their only responsibility is to get ready and act sweet and innocent. And then it's the man's job to provide, protect, chase and treat them like a princess for no deserving reason. Just bc, I was born female and shaved my body hair. Men owe me for this!!
The best decision I have ever made in my life was divorcing in my 40's. I did the stay at home thing, he did the stay at home thing as well. Deciding not to date after divorcing, supporting myself fully including taking myself out to dinner, exotic vacations again has been the best decision I have ever made . Not every female requires a "husband" and not everyone was meant to be "coupled" with someone.
I grew up in a traditional household where Mom stayed at home and Dad went to work. Married 55 years. The thing that was different was my Mom was better off than my Dad and had her own income/money. He didn't want her to work, he wanted her to choose him and our family over a career. And she did. But she always taught me, always have your own money. She also favored having a career and no man. She would tell me, do you. She never got upset that I never married or had children. She was like, choose what is best for you. I believe single women and trophy wives without children should find a way to be of service. Just sitting around gets monotonous.
I love how Joy acts like she plans to reach 150yo and is now barely past the first half of her life at 80. Great attitude, as opposed to the ones saying they're old at 50.
I would assume a housewife still takes care of the house while the husband is away though, no? Unless they have maids and cooks and stuff. Wouldn’t she still be doing chores?
😂🤣 Joy! Had our house robbed in 1979. They stole our Sony Stereo…brand new technology…Cassette Tape Deck (huge step up from 8 track). Sadly my Total Woman Book on Tape in the cassette slot. I may have been more upset over book than stereo. Was really cool HiFi we had just bought at Macy’s for $400! Never recovered Total Woman book. 😂
there are a lot of women who work hard for charity and for the arts. these are often the ladies who lunch. don't discount their influence and ability to empower others.
I can't have kids. I would prefer to be home getting things done for thr house and working on my creative projects. But until those creative projects make 200k a year, i cant afford to not work. I want to travel the world, eat out, go do things. Its a little hard to do that on one persons salary of 80k. We make 100k together and its enough without kids to do whatever we want (fix up the house, movies, dinner, date night, save for retirement)...i also like a little social interaction. My life would be perfect if i could work part time. But things are too expensive right now. I think people need to be responsible for themselves. Its good to work together, but life is unpredictable.
Joy acting offended that Alyssa says she's going to work forever.... Joy!! You're 100 and you're STILL WORKING 😂
Right?!? She just signed a 3 year contract last year😂😂😂
Right?! Why did she have such a reaction? Looked agressive
She doesn't look 100! She looks great...
😂 for real
lmao you didn’t hold back
The show is SO TIGHT when Joy moderates, it's just so good to watch!
The best.
She really knows how to flow through new questions well
Agreed
Without children: silence is golden
With children: silence is suspicious
🤣🧡
Without children… I can afford European vacations, and can risk owning designer furniture 😆
@@richardc8795 Exactly 👍
Alyssa is 100% on point. My mother always told me please get your own career and make your own money. She watched my aunts forced to stay in bad marriages (abuse, alcoholism, infidelity) because they depended on their husbands for money.
My mother said the same thing. Saw my cousin divorce a man who literally got them bankrupt. She had no idea he lost all of the money.
That's true, but in most of those situations, the woman is also saddled with kids, making it harder to get a job, depending on the circumstances.
@@idotgotitme3280 my aunts had several kids. Both of them quit high school to get married, so they didn’t even have a HS diploma. I was too young to know what was going on, but as I got older my mother told me about how they were trapped, because they couldn’t make their own living and depended on their husbands for 100% of the income.
Alyssa had a better point, not only have/make your own money but if women don't want to work and don't want kids...you better be very fit, curvy and look like a 25yr old supermodel bc if you don't, what else are you going to bring to the table!???
Every woman believes men owe them so much for their companionship alone even if they are average looking at best, overweight, older, flat butt, flat chest, no money, etc.
Why would a man want to take care of that when he could rather take care of a 25yr old in her physical prime!!!
If I have to pay for every woman, I much rather take a different 25yr old on FREE dinners, lunches and dates than a 50yr old.
@@MilkyWayGalaxyy you’re very right about *some* women thinking just by giving a guy companionship, they’re owed something.
It's about time Alyssa got applause 😂😂😂😂
I know it's nice
I love when Joy moderates. They all seem to be in a better, funnier mood!
Yeah, I love Whoopi, but a lot of topics such as this seem to bore her.
Agree. Whoopi is giving a bored vibe by the whole show.
It’s much better
No, Whoops is in a lawsuit. So are the rest of these idiots. Read a book instead.
It's Whoopi's Way or the HIGHWAY😢
Not two generations ago, a housewife was a domestic job involving grocery shopping, cooking, cleaning and maintaining a household each day, regardless of children. Thanks to reality TV, people now associate being a "housewife" with leisure, luxury, and socialite activities.🤨
Housewives were very rarely childless two decades ago.
@@volcrazy89 That's not the point
@volcrazy89 there would be times when they would be, even though they had kids.
But everything has been made much easier with technology, for example pop everything into the washing machine and then pop it into the clothes dryer. Clothes are made of wash and wear materials. Food is already prepared or half prepared.
Food is much healthier made at home and has far less packaging.
Healthier food and less packaging are better for the environment, one's health, and that prevents bad health, high medical bills, and the destruction of our planet.
I'm childless and do absolutely nothing -- except what I feel like. It is bliss!!!
Same and I’m a man and still getting taking care off
Yeah but what does a man get for taking care of a woman who does not work and does not take care of children. A lot of these women don't even cook! Useless. I would never take care of a woman like that.
Don't you work?
@@lynxo5695 Lucky to retire at 37 -- earned enough to live comfortably indefinitely. I'm starting to feel like a jerk for pointing this out. I was just laughing at the segment on the show. I'm very fortunate and it is not for everyone because you have to be very centered not to have structure in your life that a job provides.
🙏🙏🙏
I'm 100% behind Alyssa's point. Probably because I too am a child of divorce and single-mother parenting. Every person must have their own money. Of course, a general fund would be shared to cover household expenses, but every person must have direct control over their own separate pot of money. (Consider the top reasons for couple conflict: Cash, children, and...) I also think every person should have an identity independent of the home/family. Pretty much every man I know easily separates/prioritizes their own needs from the care of the home/family. So, this idea of an additional identity beyond home/family is not brand new. Men have been looking out for their own interests independent of their families this whole time. Even those with children must adjust to when the children leave the nest. In any case, great conversation, panel!
Well said. In the blink of an eye a person's life can change. It is empowering to be able to support yourself and not being dependent on another person.
This.
Alyssa nailed it. I had a good job, so when my husband became violent I could manage on my own. It was a struggle, being a single mother and working full-time. Now at 65 I am retired, comfortable and can enjoy doing 'nothing' without guilt.
@biancapierce639 good for you!😉
I agree. God forbid the relationship backfires
Alyssa is just so intelligent and down to Earth. LOVE her!!
She’s a Gemini
Alyssa is AMAZING on this show and made an excellent point!!!
I like Alyssa too. She is so rational and well spoken,
Yes, she is free to talk when Sunny and Whoopi are not there and don't constantly interrupt her!!
Joy is totally gonna work forever lolol
She’s 90
I love her too
@@javiruiz8365 actually you're wrong
@@javiruiz8365 No, she's actually 80.
@@javiruiz8365Damn 😮
I'm with Sara but I retired early (for health issues) and my husband still works. We are empty-nesters. My days aren't spent doing nothing. I keep the house clean, I go grocery shopping, I work on projects around the house, I take care of our dogs, and I work on hobbies. I also volunteer occasionally. I grew up a feminist but I feel like we've gone too far in the other direction where we are as judgmental about women working outside the home as we are about men not working. If one spouse wants to stay home and it's agreed upon, then who cares? Also, there are ways to make sure that when you set up this arrangement that the spouse staying home is future-protected, monetarily. Our house is in both of our names, for instance. Consult with a financial planner.
I'm right there with you. Although I am retired now, I did work outside the home at one point, and it was easier than staying at home, lol. I stay busier at home doing all the things you mentioned...we don't sit around the house and eat bon bons all day. I still love it though. I'm also independent money wise too...my husband and I share our assets 50/50 and he wouldn't have it any other way...we've been married almost 40 years.
I love Whoopi but I’m all for Joy being the moderator going forward. It’s just refreshing
Agreed
So Sara wants to be a single woman w/o children. Yes, it's a great life. I'm living it now!
Love it!!!DA!
I don't know about the single part, just the child free part.
On this I say live and let live. There's a lid for every pot.
Joy needs to moderate the show all the time ❤
Whoopie is too full of herself to allow Joy to moderate while Whoopie is there.
Agree with Alyssa that a woman should have their own money!! I know so many women friends who gave their power away to a man because of the money and these men divorced them and took it all.
My dad divorced his wife and he lost everything! He gave her the house and cars and now she can’t even pay the mortgage lol! She is asking us for money when she has daughters! I don’t even know her name or even met her! 😂😂😂
Alyssa had a better point, not only have/make your own money but if women don't want to work and don't want kids...you better be very fit, curvy and look like a 25yr old supermodel bc if you don't, what else are you going to bring to the table!???
Every woman believes men owe them so much for their companionship alone even if they are average looking at best, overweight, older, flat butt, flat chest, no money, etc.
Why would a man want to take care of that when he could rather take care of a 25yr old in her physical prime!!!
If I have to pay for every woman, I much rather take a different 25yr old on FREE dinners, lunches and dates than a 50yr old.
@@MilkyWayGalaxyy Well said.
@@jenniferl1908 Thank you. I am surprised you agree with that point of view as a woman.
Kathy Bates' character greeting her husband at the door in saran wrap in Fried Green Tomatoes is the funniest movie scene!!
Sarah is so on point! Managing a household is a full-time job!
Well a lot of us manage to manage a household and work full time jobs, especially if there are no kids involved
@@eddieracket😢
No one is arguing that. This is about all of the relationships that don't have kids. What is the woman doing?? Like Alyssa said, you better be very fit and look good bc women bring nothing else to the table!
@@MilkyWayGalaxyylol yes, typical male response
@kbanghart But it's true. Why can't you answer the simple question? What does a woman do for a man that she is only dating. We don't have kids and live together with most of the relationships we have had in our lives.
We mostly just date so no kids, no living together, no cooking and cleaning for the man. So if I am taking a woman on dates, paying for everything, chasing her everyday, protecting her, teaching her, making her laugh, making her feel special, fixing things, doing physical labor etc....then what does a woman do for a man? Bc no woman is taking care of my household. I prefer to live alone.
Joy is an excellent moderator! the women are free flowing and relaxed without judgment or annoyance at the end by joy.
Sara was so on point and poignant in her comment. Her three young children prevent her from having ‘me time’
Sara should have never had kids. Anytime, she talks about them, she complains that they take up too much of her time yet she so wanted children. Her kids are going to need therapy when they are adults.
@@jenniferl1908that's a mom! Lol! Being a mom and wife, someone always needs you. She also has small children that require a lot of attention. When they start getting older and have more independence, she might then be able to read as many books as she wants, and have all those memories when she couldn't. It's a vicious cycle of life. And just because you talk about hardships doesn't make you wish you never had them.
@@jenniferl1908 Therapy???? You are reaching 😂 😂 there are kids in worse conditions but grow up happy and content. Sara`s kids are blessed.
@@jenniferl1908she has money and a husband. I don't know what complaint she can have, nannies, cooks.. What are her issues?
@@TRINI818 she is an emotional train wreck and she's admitted this on TV. She uses work to run away from her family and kids and problems.
I've been a stay at home housewife for 15 years. My boys were in junior/high school when I quit working. I LOVE the peace and quiet during my days now! I am extremely lucky and appreciative of all my husband does for us and vice-versa. Whatever works best for each individual and couple, without judgment 🙏♥️
I too want to be a child-less housewife
Me too...
Totally, ah, the carefree life I could've had 🤔
Same here
THANK GOD Whoopi wasn’t here to drag this topic down with her huffing and puffing
And her gummy bears...
The blonde lady & the lady in the middle are so so honest I respect it so much
Why do they think being home with no children means you have nothing to do? Clearly they don't know how mich work house work really is. With a side job to keep her independent it can work
I vaguely remember what Joy was saying about being the total woman and wrapping yourself in Saran wrap. I don’t like to comment on the panel’s looks, but whomever is doing Joys hair coloring is doing a fantastic job
This was Samantha from Bewitched before Tabitha 😂😂😂
Yes, your right 🤔
If your man/husband is down with a wife who doesn't work, then that shouldn't be a problem for someone else....
While the thought of not working again sounds nice, not working turns me off
Tooth and Money 😂
A man once told me, he wanted to be my "wife" which meant I'd go to work and he'd stay home and no kids. I almost died laughing. That was a first..LOL
Why not let him be a "house husband"? If it's ok for women then it should be equally ok for men. That's true genuine equality isn't it?
@@jaysgamingcorner8539 I don't understand it in either direction. Financial independance is important.
That is exactly men’s point. It sounds just as ridiculous for them when women propose this on to men.
All of the things you thought when he said that: “why can’t he get a job?” “Why would I have to do all of the work?” “What would he be doing while I’m not there” the list probably goes on and on is exactly what goes through men’s heads as well.
Basically what I’m saying is, get a job and don’t be a child living off of another adult.
@@jaysgamingcorner8539 well, you know in traditional marriages, it's usually the men who ask their wives not to work. Which is often a form of control
@@surlespasdondine I absolutely agree financial independence should be encouraged in relationships
I LOVE this Alyssa woman! I don't always agree with her politics but she's smart, articulate, and compassionate...AND, she's stunning. Her outfit today is gorgeous!
Strange that most people just look at the materialistic and financial POV. What if the woman was to be a thinking partner, best moral support system and ride or die kind of housewife? That is something NOT EVERYONE can do.
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I am far from a trophy wife. I am no longer young and beautiful, but there have been times where I have chosen not to work. I do not have children. My husband was fine with it. I didn't have to be perfectly coiffed and fit. If both people are fine with it why does it matter?
You tell them Coco!
Then you’re lucky that u get to sit and home and do nothing while everyone else participated and contributes to society
@@Meet23ful I'm so sorry you have bought into capitalism. You aren't contributing to society, you are making someone else rich while you work yourself to death. I have had the kind of life books are written about. You have no clue how I have contributed to society.
@cocoknows if both people are cool with it and it's a healthy relationship all power to you. I just think whenever you have a more unique dynamic in a relationship, it's easy for it to turn toxic.
This is true, and I envy you 😉
Alyssa is kicking butt on the panel!! My favorite host, and im a liberal but im learning alot from her
What are you learning from her?
Getting rid of Sunny shows Allysa flowering!!
@@vincentbaca790 i agree
@@vincentbaca790I agree it’s immensely refreshing to see her communicate her full points and flourish without the unnecessary interruptions. She’s incredible
@@vincentbaca790it’s actually Whoopi who cuts Alyssa off all the time and as the moderator Alyssa has to back down, it’s not Sunny
If you were offering to be your partners assistant.... Make all their meals, laundry, help with their work tasks, get all the shopping done.. like a house manager or personal assistant, it would make sense then. Especially if their partner has a demanding job.
No, I disagree I think men who reach 50/60 are judged if they are unmarried and don't have children. Back in the day folks in the neighborhood would question their sexuality, and now folks question if they have a screw loose upstairs.
Yay!! Alyssa!! I'm so with you!!
I think Sara speaks for many people here…. 😆
Agree with Alyssa, a woman should always have her own money. I would hate the thought of having to rely on someone financially. I like my independence and my own bank account thank you.
I loved Alyssa point, having your own money gives you a sense of independence where you font have to be accountable to anyone about how you use and spend your money
How about cleaning, cooking, etc? If you don’t have kids, you don’t clean, cook, grocery shop, do laundry? Just play around all day huh?
I definitely enjoying this group not over talking each
Cool video
Alyssa had a better point, not only have/make your own money but if women don't want to work and don't want kids...you better be very fit, curvy and look like a 25yr old supermodel bc if you don't, what else are you going to bring to the table!???
Every woman believes men owe them so much for their companionship alone even if they are average looking at best, overweight, older, flat butt, flat chest, no money, etc.
Why would a man want to take care of that when he could rather take care of a 25yr old in her physical prime!!!
If I have to pay for every woman, I much rather take a different 25yr old on FREE dinners, lunches and dates than a 50yr old.
Homemaking itself is a full-time job
It’s not!
Indeed....
Yes it is, one with no pay I might add.
yet we do it on top of our jobs
@@javiruiz8365Well tell the people who earn salaries cleaning houses that!
I love having a kind, generous husband who provides for us so that I am free to fill our day-to-day lives with warmth, joy, peace and romance. Our house is so happy, exciting and active. I am not stressed by work. I am completely available to be the heart of my home and community. How freeing it has been to thoroughly enjoy the wonderful privilege of being a stay-at-home wife. It is delicious.
Honestly I’m praying for this lifestyle 😭🫶🏾 I’m planning to graduate college and get my degree so I’ll have my own independent income, but mainly a childfree housewife is the move 😭
I rarely comment. Can I tell you it’s amazing? My husband totally loves it that I am there for him and we have no kids at home and married 34 years! The media wants us to think this is so rare and odd! BTW I can read and am very smart and could work any number of jobs.
Sara let Joy finish her question.
Men would 100% be judged harshly if more of us chose to be "house husbands". How many women would look down on those guys, calling them lazy bums? It's a complete double standard, good to see Sara acknowledge that.
Exactly 💯 Such a double standard. Women think their only responsibility is to get ready and act sweet and innocent. And then it's the man's job to provide, protect, chase and treat them like a princess for no deserving reason. Just bc, I was born female and shaved my body hair. Men owe me for this!!
@@MilkyWayGalaxyyincel detected.
I want to travel and no kids.
Awe I love when Alyssa gets applause lol
Money and teeth!!! 🤣
The best decision I have ever made in my life was divorcing in my 40's. I did the stay at home thing, he did the stay at home thing as well. Deciding not to date after divorcing, supporting myself fully including taking myself out to dinner, exotic vacations again has been the best decision I have ever made . Not every female requires a "husband" and not everyone was meant to be "coupled" with someone.
I volunteer for this tribute 🙋🏾♀️
I grew up in a traditional household where Mom stayed at home and Dad went to work. Married 55 years. The thing that was different was my Mom was better off than my Dad and had her own income/money. He didn't want her to work, he wanted her to choose him and our family over a career. And she did. But she always taught me, always have your own money. She also favored having a career and no man. She would tell me, do you. She never got upset that I never married or had children. She was like, choose what is best for you. I believe single women and trophy wives without children should find a way to be of service. Just sitting around gets monotonous.
No Sara you should not judge the man and not judge the women.
A woman who doesn't have children or a job has more time to take care of HERSELF and HER MAN 😈!!! 😘
Of course 😉
I had children when I was 26, I can honestly say there is nothing worth wild better than kids.
I just want to say that this show is so much nicer when Sunny is absent.
I actually viewed today's show...Loved it!!!
Agreed
2:18 I felt that cold drift
I remember Kathy Bates did the seran wrap look in Fried Green Tomatoes. 😊
I agree you need a Purpose in Life!
Sarah, you said what I feel. Lol. I have 3 small kids at 41. Lol
Alyssa KNOWS WHAT'S UP!
Joy is such a good moderator. It's like a completely different flow.
3:40 😂😂😂😂
Yes!¡ I can find plenty to do. 😂 Craft, TV, clean.
...... Ana. I love you. ❤❤❤
Hey ladies, when are you gonna bring Oprah on for an interview? We’re all dying to hear what she has to say !!!
Alyssa is so beautiful!
I love how Joy acts like she plans to reach 150yo and is now barely past the first half of her life at 80. Great attitude, as opposed to the ones saying they're old at 50.
Sunny where you at girl 😂😂😂😂
I would assume a housewife still takes care of the house while the husband is away though, no? Unless they have maids and cooks and stuff. Wouldn’t she still be doing chores?
Exactly, it's not like she's doing nothing at all, housecleaning is still work, just not paid work.
I read that book.
Talk about the renting crisis
Love Rachel on it so refreshing
Thanks Sarah for mentioning the emocional pressure on women.
“Play tennis, go running, read books” My favorite things💪 Get it!
Ana ❤where did you get your beautiful dress 😍
😂🤣 Joy! Had our house robbed in 1979. They stole our Sony Stereo…brand new technology…Cassette Tape Deck (huge step up from 8 track). Sadly my Total Woman Book on Tape in the cassette slot. I may have been more upset over book than stereo. Was really cool HiFi we had just bought at Macy’s for $400! Never recovered Total Woman book. 😂
Yes.
Try that in a small town 😂😂
Maybe she wants to volunteer or work on the house 🤷♀️
For the first time in a very long time Ana hadn’t gotten on my nerves she’s pleasant today.
Sara, Sara, we love u ❤
I hope the hosts are this diverse when discussing politics. Kindly express a variety of opinions, not two (thanks, Alyssa).
great flow of conversation. if Whoopi was here, this topic will be pooped on from the get go
I have 2 tiny babies, I know what Sarah talking about 😂
My feelings & thoughts are same as Alyssa re: this
there are a lot of women who work hard for charity and for the arts. these are often the ladies who lunch. don't discount their influence and ability to empower others.
Sarah made a good point.
I'm married in a child free marriage and he knew before we got married so it is possible.
Same!
Rock on!!!
Yay 👏👏👏
The headline is my dream. I want to be a housewife. And i don't want kids
Then you better look like a 25yr old supermodel or better yet, be a 25yr old supermodel. You better be a great cook and great in bed.
my nightmare
I know, right 👍 My dream too 😁
I'm enjoying the view without you know who
Well gee Ana basically said hope you live in the right state. 😊
I can't have kids. I would prefer to be home getting things done for thr house and working on my creative projects. But until those creative projects make 200k a year, i cant afford to not work.
I want to travel the world, eat out, go do things. Its a little hard to do that on one persons salary of 80k. We make 100k together and its enough without kids to do whatever we want (fix up the house, movies, dinner, date night, save for retirement)...i also like a little social interaction.
My life would be perfect if i could work part time. But things are too expensive right now. I think people need to be responsible for themselves. Its good to work together, but life is unpredictable.
I don’t see what’a wrong with the the woman in the letter!
2:53-3:03 THAT’S RIGHT ana navarro GET OVER IT.