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- čas přidán 14. 10. 2016
- The KLF return? - 27 years ago I regularly listened to a British stadium house band called The KLF (Jimmy Cauty and Bill Drummond). But within a couple of years of finding out about this group and enjoying their music they quit the music business and disappeared. But every few years I discover new KLF related projects, some hidden, some right in front of me. This week one arrived in my local town in a huge shipping container that I could not help but notice. Press PLAY to find out how I got on…
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Thank you, awesome video.
No bother at all, it was a pleasure to do, if that box was a permanent thing I'd be there every other day, just glad I had some ability to document it, and also it was a perfect excuse to talk about the KLF, thanks again for the lovely comment.
Today I found out what KLF stands for! Only took 32 years. Great vid. That container was unreal!
I'm always amazed how many things take me decades to figure out so I'm glad it's not just me, and glad I could see that container in person I wonder where it is now?
Wow. That container was so cool to see. One big fan here, since the early 90's.
I went to it about three times before it was moved, loved it, always good to see fans of them also, nice user name by the way.
This is what I love about KLF - it's not just a band that had some hit songs, it's got all this interesting and out-there stuff around it too, which creates a story, a history, a mythos, a legend. This riot container, for example, is brilliant! Thanks for the video, I'd never have known about this otherwise!
Couldn't have put it better myself, the is just something so special about the KLF, there are almost sort of unique, I'm sort of amazed I found out about that container also, it was sort of a fluke really, glad to promote it though.
this video is justified. love KLF.
I love when you find other people who are into stuff like The KLF, really does warm my heart that all these later people think fondly of them, I don't really believe it but if somebody had told me I'd been brainwashed it wouldn't surprise me, I can't think of anything they have done before or since that I don't think is super cool, I went to that box three times, I've never been up Hanley that much in one week for years.
Been their fan since my classmate introduced me to their music in early 90s, and didn't know much about them except that money burning thing :) I just watched the documentary "Who killed the KLF?" and I'm about half way through their book called 2023. The more I learn about them, the more I like them, and want to see more of their art. Then the justified algorithm of CZcams served me this video, and I'm ... stoked ... on-trent :D Hanley is one of few places in the UK I've actually been to (many years ago). What are the odds? That riot model installation in a shipping container looks very cool.
Oh wow that thing about you coming to Hanley is almost supernatural, speaking of which the KLF is one of the few things that makes me really feel totally different when I think about them,, of listen to then I know it's "probably" not true but they almost feel magical, I watched that documentary too, always good to talk to other KLF fans, always good to talk about stuff like this so feel to drop by again at any time and thanks for watching the video and hope Hanley didn't scar you to badly. :)
@@davetheloch My first ever business trip to England, 20 odd years ago (maybe 23? :) ). I have positive memories of that time. That place in the video looks super familiar, think I bought some vinyls nearby. Agreed, KLF is magic :) Some art projects have a "cult following", but KLF is the closest thing to an actual cult. Every time I see an ice cream van, I go "All bound for Mu Mu land" in my head. When I found out they re-released all of their stuff last year, I was so happy I almost cried. And my 3yo daughter is a new KLF fan now too :) Fishing in the rivers of life.
How could you write music so brilliantly?this space is real...
I totally agree, love the KLF.
JAMMS and Justified Ancients of MuMu all refer to a book called the Illuminatus! Trilogy by Robert Anton Wilson. The stage show of which (10 hours in duration no less!) either Drummond or Cauty were involved in- I can't recall which. From wikipedia "One of the aliases of anarchic British band The KLF was named after a secret society from the trilogy.[46] They released much of their early material under the name "The Justified Ancients of Mu Mu"/"The JAMMs", cf. "The Justified Ancients of Mummu"/"The JAMs" from the trilogy, and much of their work was Discordian in nature. They mirrored the fictional JAMs' gleeful political tactics of causing chaos and confusion by bringing a direct, humorous but nevertheless revolutionary approach to making records. "
There is probably more information there than in the actual video, thanks for watching and putting a cool post and all that.
There is a character in that trilogy named Saul Goodman... from 1975
Drummond was involved in the stage show for a short time, the story goes that he invariably quit by walking out after saying he was “going to get some glue”
I had never even been online when KLF came out. Wonderful times.
I wonder how many websites I've been to that the KLF have a part of, it's probably 2 or like 500.
That might be because there *was* no online. . . . .
I've only just discovered Space(KLF) and more importantly to me, the album Chill Out(KLF). I bought them both, with Chill Out on CD at £27.99. I've been playing it continuously! I've watched all available CZcams clips on them but only found yours today. Thanks for your post! Love the KLF.
Always cool to see more/new KLF fans, I can't quite explain it but no other band makes me feel the way the KLF does, it truly makes me feel like there is more to them and there is something else going on, I don't believe in conspiracy theories or anything but it's a darn sight more interesting than most stuff out there combined, hope you found the video useful and/or interesting, I would love to see that Jimmy's art box thing again. Thanks for watching and all that.
I remember reading about "Watch the K Foundation Burn a Million Quid" and the KLF catalog deletion in Mondo 2000 magazine or something like that and thinking it was a big April fool's joke at first. Between that and the Norwegian black metal scene's shenanigans, the early-to-mid 90s was an intense period for music. Not to mention all the flannel.
It honestly wouldn't surprise me if they did/didn't do it, mind you I'm such a KLF fan boy it wouldn't bother me either way! Good call on referencing that time in music, in England there was something called The Criminal Justice Bill coming into effect and they were saying you could get arrested for wearing metal shirts, thankfully it didn't pan out like that but it was a mad time for sure. Between like 1990 - 1992 my interest in music skyrocketed I already loved it but I'd got a little bit of money from a training course I was on, but I spend 95% of it on music, I recorded nearly every music show on telly, even asked people with Mtv to record me Headbangers Ball a couple of times and started going to gigs. I even had a couple of flannel shirts and I didn't even like Grunge Music that much, I've since come around on that, I find it hard to get into a band If they don't do drum solos upside down or something, as a grunge band ever even done a drum solo. ;)
good to see Jimmy is still doing art
it blew my mind when I discovered he drew the Lord of the Rings poster I had on my wall, as a kid
KLF was such a brilliant concept. I wish I could find an HD copy of that movie they did, I don't even know if it got released anywhere
thanks for putting this up
I love stuff like that, the number of times I've become a fan of something only to realise that I've been around it the whole time, always cool though, I normally pride myself on being into quite a few different things but The KLF are heads and shoulders above nearly everything else, the are great. Don't think that movie ever came out, don't quote me on it though, I think bits of it have been released over the years in various forms, still to this gutted I didn't buy a video called something like "stadium house" when I saw it in a local comic shop, thanks for comment and great to see a fan of The KLF.
galactagog Jimmy has been doing vast amounts of very famous art using his alter ego of banksy...
@@davetheloch You just blew my mind. I still have the Lord of the Rings poster in mint condition.
Such a late comment, but good vid. I have a copy of the one sided 7 inch of KLF vs Extreme Noise Terror 3am Eternal. I believe there were only 500 copies printed. I then met Bill and Jimmy when they were touring "Watching the KLF burn £1 million" and tricked them in to signing it. I said to Bill "Can I ask you a question you will definitely say 'No' to?" and he said "Right, well I'm saying yes then." I asked for them to sign it and he rolled his eyes. They both had the last laugh though as I failed to notice Bill signed it Jimmy and Jimmy signed it Bill. Treasured forever.
I also love the fact they were one of the first bands to mess around with Illuminati imagery and mythology, well ahead of the Gaga and Perry "scandals"
No bother better late than never, that sounds like a cool item you got there, I honestly don't know if I'd like to meet them or not I'd genuinely either say something really stupid or cry probably both.
@@davetheloch I'd never do it now. The boozy confidence of a 19 year old. They were lovely, generous with their time and absolutely indulgent of our fandom, which was great. Isn't always. I once met Alison Goldfrapp. It's a very different story.
Brilliant.
Thank you for watching and always good to see people talking about The KLF.
been waiting a long time
I know the feeling...better later than never though and thanks for posting.
Lovely stuff. Thanks, maestro.
No bother at all, always good to be of service, nice comment and thanks for watching.
The LOCH Did you read the book on the KLF by John Higgs? It's crazy but best book about a band I had ever read.
That installation is amazing.
I wish it was there all the time, mind you I'm glad it was there for the time it was to be honest, nice to see a fan of it and Jimmy's work, cool username and avatar by the way.
Great video - first time I went to a rave the KLF1 was played - oh my God - that was it.....
Yeah that would do it, trying to think where I first saw them/heard them.
Excellent video. My home town of Mansfield is mentioned in It's Grim Up North. That container art is fantastic!
Oooh good call on the name check, I think Crewe might have been the closest place to me, did you get to see the container.
@@davetheloch I didn't even know about it before.
inside the container...wow!!!
I wish I could see it again for real.
Now that’s art!
A lot of "modern art" could be dangerously close to being rubbish, but that Riot Box is a great work, and it does so on so many levels.
The rapper is also on the Bassheads album C.O.D.E. I am glad you mentioned Pop Incorporated. They completely threw me. I thought Brooke the female single was out of the KLF. That cargo container, holy shit.
Nice fact about Bassheads didn't know that, amazing how all these years later can still find out new information about the band, yeah that container is something else, thanks for watching and leaving a nice comment, still warms my heart to see KLF fans.
this guy is, like, a total aesthete
Why thank you.
That Sea Container Art Is As Mental as the KLF 👍
Can't fault that logic.
Great vid, I love the JAMS too and cant wait to see what they come up with in Liverpool in August. What a great find this was when your just walking down the street! Why Hanley? Wonder if they used to go to Shelleys or Kinetic back in the day? Wasnt Shelleys near there? Strangely I remember coming across Ford Timelord in Mold (North Wales) back in the early 90s and was like WOW!!! I was starstruck haha Great job The Loch
Always great to see another fan, I know it wasn't that long about but I still can't believe it was just there, in fact I walked where it was yesterday, it's will always be that "Jimmy Cauty box area" for the rest of my life, I think the reason they chose the area for the boxes was the sites of previous riots, Hanley's was only 2 weeks before the box arrived. ;) Shelly's was down the road in Longton, when I see an ordinary car with the number plate KLF and I get excited if I saw the Ford Timelord I'd probably pass out, thanks for the nice comment. Looking forward to the return also, didn't know it was going to be in Liverpool, thanks for the info.
I know they never played by the rules and caused mayhem virtually everywhere they went, but Bill Drummond has, so I understand, denied all knowledge of this return (also implied Jimmy denied it too) - I'd love them to return, of course, but don't count the chickens just yet....
Hi David you have a nice collection of CD's/tapes there. Have you listened to Pete Wylie's 'Infamy' album? The KLF show up on it in a few songs, they put a really nice but subtle touch of their sound on it, also an excellent group of songs from Wylie.
Will have to check that out, and thanks for the compliment, I never knew that fact what you mentioned, didn't realise they guested on anybody else's stuff, can't believe the KLF have reformed to I read yesterday, awesome stuff and thanks again.
Nesses anos todos de ausência do The KLF, a banda Scooter sempre fez questão de mostrar a admiração por eles, fazendo inúmeras menções ao The KLF em singles, albuns e performances...
O retorno do The KLF ao cenário será muito bem vindo!
Scooter, é claro, eu queria mencionar ele, eu adoro tentar localizar as referências se eu puder, saudações do Reino Unido todo o caminho para Portugal.
The LOCH
Saudações do Brasil ao Reino Unido!
Vamos ficar atentos quanto a esse possível retorno do The KLF
Wish they had finished the black room album would of been incredible even to This day fans are desparate for a new album but will never happen there CDs and other stuff are worth a lot of money now and hard to get.
I’ve often wondered what The Black Room would have sounded like. Earlier I was watching a documentary on BBC Iplayer about Bill Drummond from the KLF. He’s going on a 12 year tour of the world as an art project. The documentary was called: Best Before Death
I will go with a gun and bring back together for the last album of KLF
I do like them.
Nice vid mate
Cheers always cool when people like the vids, just looking at your channel I've been meaning to have a go on one of those climbing wall things for years, mind you I can barely do the monkey bars at the park down the road so that might be one of the reasons, thanks for watching and the nice comment.
Some of their earlier records did flop - Kylie Said To Jason (albeit thankfully!) flopped, and the original versions of What Time Is Love?, 3:AM Eternal, and Last Train To Trancentral did also (of course, the 90's versions did chart well)
Yeah good point I probably misspoke, I wasn't sure if when they were just the KLF everything got in the top ten, I know they obviously had some success, mind you I'm such a KLF fan boy the stuff that didn't do very well is more appealing than the stuff that did, always cool to find out new information thanks for the post.
The KLF was originally a underground house band. Early tracks such as ‘88 WTIL? and ‘89 3 a.m. Eternal was never made to be hits, but to be played by underground club DJs back then. They tried to go back to the underground with It’s Grim Up North (The Jams), and The Black Room, something that maybe would have happened if they stopped with the hit production after the Stadium House Trilogy. Pity. It was maybe too late. They used to be an awsome underground band.
Is Banksy The KLF???
It wouldn't surprise me.
Bill's recent books have been good too,
I really need to start to read a lot more books, and it would be a brilliant excuse, do they all have numbers for titles or have I remembered it wrong, thanks for the comment.
Great upload, always loved the klf ever since being a teen in the early 90's. I still have the white room album which will always be my fave album of all time. I do graffiti art myself so if any of you guys would like a framed a4 size drawing of something KLF related then give me a shout:-) thanks for the upload the LOCH...
Will do, it's honestly a cool thing seeing so many KLF fans still knocking around, cool username by the way and thanks for commenting.
Cheers bro:-)
Off topic, but have you ever thought of doing a video where you show places of your childhood etc like old primary school, secondary school, scouts HQ etc? I enjoyed your vids on the cinemas you visited and shops you bought chips and old Star Wars from, that stuff was cool to see. :) I'm thinking of doing something like it myself one day.
That's kind of cool idea, would sure be cool to do something along those lines, at least even if just part of another video, can't promise anything but you never know. Thanks for the continued support.
Were you not tempted to hang around to see who was overseeing the removal of the container? I'd have thought maybe Jimmy Cauty would have to been on hand in case any of the installations were knocked out of place whilst being moved? I missed seeing it in Colchester - the closest place to me in Essex- probably due to financial reasons at the time! I'm also surprised that you're not in The KLF Facebook group - or are you there undercover? If you have any KLF related questions someone will have an answer there. Thanks for sharing your video.
Good call, I didn't think about it at the time, mind you I'm almost glad I didn't meet him in case I said something stupid, I'm not Facebook at all but nice to see fans of the KLF are still out there, good to keep in mind if I ever do go on there, thanks for the ace comment.
Hope you're happy about the last 24 hours
Ah nice one :) I am but I'm also sort of in shock, it's like "overnight" the KLF how the heck did that happen? I hope all the events go OK and that, thanks for the comment, and I return the sentiments hope you are enjoying all this good stuff also.
JUSTIFIED and BEAUTIFUL post-apocalyptic world model in a box where it should be kept, Very bad job JIM it is not perfect and therefore become's imperfect which is where beautiful can, has and will continue to be found as long as the timelord's can persuade us to look through the small glass window's where time is not known, measured or discussed.. may it all become re-cycled for an eternity of beauty.
Always nice to see a KLF fan.
I had that "Fuck the Millennium" cassette single. Remember buying that, a CD single of "Sacre Francais" by Dimitri From Paris (must have been 99p otherwise I'm sure I'd have bought the cassette) and another cassette single the identity of which escapes me from the long since gone HMV Megastore in Manchester. It disappeared long ago but I've still got a few other releases of their's on LP, 12", 7" and CD. Also around the same time got taken to the Manchester showing of the Watch The K Foundation Burn a Million Pound film. Got to very briefly meet them both and was amused when they wouldn't sign my mate Alex's KLF collectibles. I also remember a bunch of punk/greebo/anarchist types getting pretty argumentative and shouty during the after film Q&A and making a big show of walking out. Almost makes me miss my student days.
Amazing how many people brought KLF stuff, always great to see fans though it's still really special.
@@davetheloch Been a sub for probably a year but didn't know about this video until last night. Watched a video of Bill Drummond being interviewed by Tony Wilson (spits) and then this one came up in the suggestions. Yeah, I didn't realise it at the time but they were indeed special.
on the ship they sang MTV song in '93, it’s not about America name music 2 to similar nowhere there is no video clip
I would like to have seen that.
Kopyright Liberation Front.
Further more know as the JAMMS!
The 23 years are almost over.
I still can't believe they came back.
you missed the Pyschic tv / temple ov psychick youth posters on the side
Good spot, thinking about it would have been cool to take really good photos of every side, I wonder if it still exists somewhere thinking about it, will have to try and find out, thanks for watching and the post.
This is what KLF is about.
For sure, always nice to see a fan of the band.
Long live The KLF!
Can't fault that sentiment for sure.
@@davetheloch Amen to that!
Puede ser traducido en español.por favor.
Thank you.
is it still grim up north
It can be for sure, but I'm genuinely surprised sometimes just how nice places up north can be it's sort of blows me away.
Riot in a Jam Jar... I had the opportunity in 2011 to buy one of his jam jar scenes and I didn't do it... I'm gutted I didn't now. At the time I was really strapped for cash and I couldn't really afford it so I didn't.
I always regret stuff like that, the great thing about the "internet age" is almost nothing is not available anymore even if you have to pay over the odds for something, but I totally understand, I still to this day can't believe some of the things that passed me by for whatever reason, usually money, thanks for the comment and great to see another fan.
Mark Dixon you should have bought the banksy in a jam jar.. As close to a self portrait of Jimmy as you are going to get
на корабле пели песню MTV 93 года, дело не в америке название музыки 2 к подобному нигде нету клипа
Hello and nice to see another KLF fan.
And now,the unthinkable has happened.....
What's happened Baz?
@@davetheloch they recently put all their music up on streaming platforms etc for the first time. They’ve re appeared- perhaps there’s more to come 🤷♂️
That is neat, and saves him burning the cash this time
Maybe he could burn the cash inside the container!
I think making this burnt some, wonder if he is still justified and ancient
Bookmark:> k2planthireltd.com/
Cheers.
Oh I know those ppl XD
Oh cool which ones, somebody actually on the video?
Similar idea to Duchamps Etant Donne.
Will have to check that out thanks for the heads up, and the comment.
This guy looks like Austin Powers...
Oh behave! :)
@@davetheloch lol
Although Jimmy Cauty continued to make good money from the industry as part of The Orb
Good point, what's funny about The Orb I not unless I really think about it I always forget he was in that band, mind you even now after all these years I doubt from memory I'd could 100% write a list of all the bands they were involved in, actually that sounds like a challenge to myself, thanks for the comment.
Jimmy was in The Orb around the same time The Jams changes their name to the KLF. So no, Jimmy was not making money with The Orb after the KLF.
@@evad520 yes he did because the Orb stuff he wrote didn't get deleted, it was still available to buy, even The KLF still makes money for Cauty and Drummond through radio play, you just can't physically buy it anymore, Cauty and Drummond made plenty of coin from The KLF after they deleted their back catalogue
We Need You. Please Resond Mu MU
I hope this comment gets to Mu Mu land.
@@davetheloch please spread it much as possible. They will hear.
unfortunately they will never return, unless we go to the land of MUMU
Well I'm up for it any who. :)
23/08/17
It's going to be so cool.
The Ancients of Mu is to do with Atlantis, the lost/hidden civilisation, that and along with the coat of arms, makes it appear these guys are freemasons, with occult knowledge.
I didn't know that about the Atlantis but I know there are into a bit of everything so it makes sense, always good to see people talking about the KLF.
@@davetheloch They couldn't survive without people talking about them. Propaganda is their method, enigma or mystery is their substance, call it art, call it magic, they are getting away with what they are getting away with by the magnetism of mystery and magic, and the technique of uncompromising confidence and propaganda.
They are deliberately obscure and insistently here. Their meaning and worth is that they, the KLF be.
I totally agree with all of that, they are one of the few "bands" that I do think there really is something special about them even if it is all rigged for want of a better phrase.
@@davetheloch Their music isn't my cup of hemlock.
You have a big pimple right in the centre of your forehead. It might be malignant. :)
Could be.
ENT are grindcore, not metal.
Good call, I'm terrible with sub-genres especially for some of the ones at the heavier end of the spectrum, I know almost nothing about Death/Doom also is sludge core one, I may have heard that somewhere! Even though I like nearly all kinds of hard rock/heavy metal, my favourite bands are stuff like Van Halen, Warrant, and bands like that. I think I'm the only person on earth that prefers to called them "hair metal" in instead of glam or sleaze.
The LOCH
Death and doom are different styles;
Doom's not technically metal, it's Doom (however it does fall inside metal for some styles as it takes Sabbath's blueprint and makes it slower and darker) bands like Cathedral, Sunn0)))))), Candlemass, St. Vitus, Funeral and Electric Wizard play Doom..
Sludge is from New Orleans, bands like Crowbar, Eyehategod, Baroness, Neurosis and Melvins play Sludge.
Death metal is the daddy of the three, it has bands such as Death (who gave it the name), Cannibal Corpse, Autopsy, Obituary, Six Feet Under and Deicide to mention a few.
metal / grind / crust etc purely semantics on rock