Further Firearm Restrictions Incoming - We Only Have Ourselves To Blame!
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- The results of the Firearms Safety Consultation have been released and will result in further restrictions and additional firearms laws around high muzzle energy rifles, air guns, miniature rifle ranges and ammunition. We go through what will change and how this is likely to affect gun owners within the UK.
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0:00 Introduction
0:48 Consultation Responce
3:13 HME Rifles
6:34 Air Guns
10:28 Mini Rifle Ranges
14:34 Ammunition - Sport
I feel this another move to decrease the number of ‘law abiding’ shooters! As we all know the UK has one of the most stringent licensing systems in the world. Concentrate on clamping down on illegal guns and give us honest owners a break!!
That would require them to do actual work. You cant even get them to respond to or investigate burglaries.
Legal firearm owners. They can just send us a letter.
@@JW-YT they do at last turn up to burglaries, I was at one recently where 3 shotguns and a .22 rifle were stolen.
They found the safe keys somewhere in the property, they left the ammo safe wide open full of shells and .22 lr, coppers told the owners unlicensed son in law (owner out of country)to leave ammo safe open for forensic investigation in 2 days time 🤦.
More crime committed by knives have been for decades and increasing every year.
Most guns laws don’t even effect criminals whatsoever, only the law abiding citizens suffer.
Of course they won't affect criminals. The whole idea of someone being a criminal is that they break the law. A lot of criminals have been using fully automatic machine guns for years and they are fully banned. They are not going to think "I better get rid of my Uzi now because its illegal" lol. Gun laws are a joke over here and it spoils the sport and hobby for good people. Its a shame really.
Twas ever thus!
It's not the criminals the establishment are scared of and shitting their shorts about. They are scared of good people sick of their evil. They are scared of a majority of population being able to fight and defend themselves. They lose control or their illusion of it. Status quo is unacceptable to them. Hence more laws.
That’s why they do it
Given that the government know every single licence holders address why was not notice issued to each and everyone? I only found your channel after that consultation had closed and did the lead ammo one. It gives you the feeling that what ever the shooting community say it will be ignored anyway.
Agree entirely this is the first I am hearing and the arrogance in this video is why the community is so fragmented. It 100% should of been the goverments priority to ensure they reach out to as many people as possible.
You cannot respond to something you have no idea is happening.
@@xxSWxxNINJA I think you have answered the question with your last sentence! They don't want us to respond, if we did, they might be obliged to give a sh*t what we thought.
Same here didn't know about it either.
Dead right.. it was a deliberate move by gov. They dont want any guns out there..
Ditto....
Why are people who want to enjoy firearms so demonised in this country. And why is it only legal gun owners seem to be taking the hit. Criminals don’t follow laws. I just see this as a closer step to no private ownership of firearms in this country.
Closer to absolute tyranny - the goal of both marxists and globalists
It's simply about control, not safety or whatever else our politicians say.
Because we are the only people in this part of the world that can raise our heads and the people part of the establishment fear it.
Its by design
Strange it’s exactly the same thing happening here in Australia. A pattern?
My biggest pet hate is hearing an air rifle or pistol (or bb gun) being described as a firearm. - the projectile, as you know does not involve fire to propell the projectile so is not a firearm! The press,and the police seem to use this term far too freely.
Like it or not, that's the legal term: 'A lethal barrelled weapon of any description from which any shot, bullet or other missile can be discharged'. Lethal being defined as a muzzle energy of 1 Joule.
To be fair I didn't even know there was a consultation going on, i asked around and many of my friends and members at the local clubs didn't know either. Most said they would have replied had they of known.
I am surprised. everyone at my club and other shooters I know knew about the consultation. I read about it in NRA journal, facebook shooting groups and watched youtube videos that mentioned it.. I dont know how many actually replied to the consultation. I did, but I think most didnt.
There not asking the publics public there just doing things like dictatorship
I feel sad for you. Fortunately we have a majority in Parliament in Sweden for gunrights and good gunlaws. The situation in GB is ridiculous....
Agree, Can you in GB spell SLAVE?
It is. Don't allow yourself to become complacent though brother, lest Sweden ends up in the same boat.
@@stancooper5436 Very true. It is a constant never ending struggle.
@ Indeed. The agenda is of course to take it all from you.
@@stancooper5436 of course
This was strangely hard to watch..really raised my blood pressure...I live in Texas so this is really alien to me. I feel for yall
Dear Callum,
(a) Given the importance of these changes, has anyone asked why the Home Office did not provide a copy of this survey to all those likely to be affected this personally? With the exception of air rifles and pistols in England, the name and address of all the others should be on record.
(b) Why were members of the non-shooting public invited to participate in this survey? Unless they have contact with shooters they will have no idea what any of these changes mean to those involved.
Frank.
🤣🤣🤣
its by design . waky waky
@@ivanbluetarski9071 Dear Ivan,
I've been awake since Hungerford.
Frank.
Obviously because HO doesn't want our opinions, instead they want opinions of the people who either have no clue how the current systems works or who want complete bans of all firearms. The future become evermore bleak ._.
Blame the organisations for not keeping their members informed about the existence of the consultation.
Very true.
I was about to rejoin BASC but I'm now wondering what they actually do for us?
I've not heard a thing about it till now, and I've got instructor certificate
Thanks, I’m an air gun shooter and wasn’t even aware of this. I’ll watch for future opportunities to participate in consultations.
This is nothing about safety, it's all about control.
As an air gunner, I had no knowledge of this consultation. You’re right, it’s a pitiful response, but I can’t help thinking they didn’t want our opinions.
same, when you buy an air pistol/rifle from a legitimate source you have to give your name and address and the serial number is also registered. this should then be on a central database and as such we should have been informed.
They wont listen anyway tick boxing before taking away moor rights.
Criminals getting hold of ammo doesn't seem to be a problem, I was at a burglary recently where a full safe of ammo was left wide open, didn't even take 1 box.
Criminals getting hold of ammo is easy all they need to do is find someone thats willing to buy it for them
@@therealfinn1839 you would still think if they are stealing a few shotguns and a .22 rifle they would at least take some of the ammo to go with it.
No need to get someone to buy it for you then.
Its no problem for the Albanians gang members and cocaine traffickers
As some one based in Scotland I knew nothing of this consultation had I known of this, I would have certainly have contributed,
Same here, in Scotland we already have airgun licences and "proper" storage, as they are referred to as firearms, and there is no distinction between single shot or magazine fed.
I wonder how many people who shoot where even aware of this consultation? The vast majority of shooters in the uk use shotguns for game or clays and may have simply not known about it.
@William Tell Are they though? A member of an organization I mean. Wheres the data?
I’m a member of two shooting organisations and I missed a notification to complete this survey. Very frustrating.
Good point, I was completely unaware of this consultation document
@@tanfosbery1153 I was also completely unaware of this,
@William Tell I’ve checked my emails and I do not have a request to complete the survey from either nra nor cpsa. I’m not moaning on social media, merely stating I didn’t receive the email.
"The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing" Absolutely pathetic response from the shooting community, nothing learnt from the handgun ban. What will it take to move people to the smallest of actions I. e. a simple survey?
You seem to be under the impression we can actually do something. We cant. We dont have rights in this country.
Thats why I'm leaving.
@Josh Q good luck with that
@Josh Q then sadly you are living in a dream like I am. Our cultures and traditions were sacrificed a long time ago.
The Big Trouble with the Shooting Community is it is Fragmented & we DO NOT STAND TOGETHER AS ONE VOICE
Well when there is people who want to own military “styled” assault rifles, high powered rifles and handguns what do you expect?
Who needs the assault stuff?
It also makes us look bad.
Why do you need a handgun?
And who needs a high powered rifle that can go miles?
It would be better to just make everything a single shot.
Limited amounts.
And a maximum caliber. (Maybe .243 or .303.)
As if someone goes crazy they won’t do as much damage with access to only these guns.
Just goes to show how little you know about firearms, with your comments like that
@@stevehorner9004 How?
Try me?
You didn’t respond with much replies to my points, and your claiming I don’t know much?
Surely you could reply and take apart my points?
@@kylethedalek I don't know @Steve Horner's exact point & am not sure 'where you are coming from' based on your other comments around here, but I also disagree with you so I'll have a go at responding... I'm going to assume from your "they won't do as much damage" comment that you are supportive of a US Gun Control description of so called "Assault Weapons" (although you actually state "Assault Rifles" which is a well defined term for military select-fire small arms that are, all but, impossible to own in the UK & have been for a long time).
The key problem is that "Assault Weapon" is a made up term that was deliberately designed to enable the control advocates to invoke an unjustified fear of firearms among those who didn't know better - I think its originator is recorded as having admitted as much. So an already vague & incorrect term has been further & widely misunderstood / misused but, in general, seems to be targeted at purely cosmetic features which in no way make such firearms more dangerous than their 'acceptable' equivalents. The typical characteristics do as little to turn make a firearm 'military grade' as just wearing camouflage does to turn a person into a soldier. So it might "make us look bad", but only because the lack of any proper foundation is not being called out - which is unfair & shouldn't be accepted.
You question the requirement for "a high powered rifle that can go miles". Well, the power can be needed to humanely dispatch a hunting or other quarry - the function has very little to do with being able to "go miles". You later go on to suggest an 'upper limit' including .303... which can absolutely "go miles". I've never shot .243 but I'd bet it can too. Even .22 LR can travel a very great distance in certain circumstances. All of which only goes to show that one needs to be aware of 'backstops' whatever cartridge you legitimately use, but "short ranged" is not a useful control measure.
You then say "single shot". Again, referring back to the "Assault Weapons" aspect, fully automatic firearms have long been banned in the UK; so only 'single shot' - firing one round for each operation of the trigger - firearms are able to be owned. And even a great many types of those eg non .22 rimfire semi-automatics have further been banned.
Or did you mean 'absolutely' single shot, with every round having to be loaded by hand before firing? If so, there are good reasons why magazine fed firearms are necessary & that is entirely too restrictive for legitimate ownership... but if you believe that, there is very little I suspect I could readily say in a post on the internet to reverse that negative viewpoint!
I'm afraid I really don't know what you meant by "limited amounts".
Unfortunately there is too little understanding of firearms functionality & their lawful & appropriate uses. I am a big believer that ignorance around firearms needs to be countered much more effectively by the law abiding shooting community (all together - returning to a key point of this video!) because, at the moment, increases in laws & controls are being justified on the basis of improvements in public safety that they will actually have little impact upon.
What disciplines do you shoot for one, do you know how far a .22 Rimfire Bullet will travel, my point is as shooters we should all stand together wether you only like one type of shooting or not
I'm uk resident and a responsible owner of an air rifle and 2 airguns/pistols
And I find the laws in the UK absolutely shocking
The laws are way to stricked for air guns
Most owners if not 99% of us are responsible and are BASC Members.
They need relax the laws not stiffen them.
You can't wild camp
You can't go to remote areas to use an airgun
It's disgusting really.
Great video by the way
👍👍👍
Soon you will walk on a line only and your butter knife will need a licence
@@redalias7931
Your absolutely right there fella
We may aswell be living in North Korea under
Kim Jong-un
You can be "law abiding and responsible" without being a member of BASC!!
@@nigelbase1196
Yes of course you can
I agree
👍
For someone facing the same nonsense in my own country, you are becoming a good example of why we need to band together and stop politicians passing these laws
I'm just coming back in to the hobby after 20 years away and I am utterly perplexed at the state of affairs as they stand. We are a nation of cabbages waiting for harvest. Disarmed and at the mercy of our own apathy.
Same here. What happened
@@MrCliveford People stopped taking personal responsibility for their lives. Gave it up for flat screen TV's and empty promises.
that's exactly my thoughts... WTF has happened here!!!!
Don't bother private ownership by non landowners/farmers or pest control will be gone in 10 years
I’m new to U.K. firearms and have honestly found the U.K. firearm community to be closed and unwilling to give advice, in general. Some have bucked the trend, but they’ve been greatly outweighed by the times I’ve been ignored or given nearly useless generic information. It seems like people don’t want newcomers to the sport and so I don’t find it at all surprising that the turnout was so poor.
UK Gun community got burned pretty bad by bad actors in the past (Hungerford, Dunblane) So I can't say it's not understandable.
Yea the gun community over this side of the world is very shut off. People don't like to identify themselves publicly as gun owners. American gun owners have done so much damage to the sport.
@@briankelly8297 Then the sport is likely to wither and die. The licensing system is designed to be difficult and if members of the shooting community don’t act welcoming to newcomers, they’ll just not bother.
@@Smatnm Good I am sick of being threatened by firearms in the UK. Only a select few are allowed to be armed. And criminals of course.
@@nospoon4799 How often have you been "threatened by firearms in the UK" - except perhaps by criminals (who do not care about the laws anyway)?
As an American I will always support the restoration of firearms rights for all peoples. God help our brothers and sisters in the UK
Yes, we need to match our murder rate with the USA asap.
God bless
there are plenty of americans who dont. your country is changing too
I am an American here too. Born in China where guns are banned.
You can't hold air gunners responsible for failing to respond to the consultation. How on earth would they have known there WAS one?
I feel embarrassed that I didn't know this consultation was happening.
Didn’t even hear about any of this till this video
What a joke , especially when it’s so easy to buy an illegal gun on the streets! Shouldn’t they be spending time on tracking these down ?
They always go for the lowest-hanging fruit. Like reducing a speed limit from 40mph to 30mph because some idiot drove at 95.
Such a common phrase. Its not easy to buy a gun on the street ffs. Criminals wont take the chance of you being undercover. It's only easy for other criminals in the known circle to buy a firearm.
@@MattF12765Exactly. I often wonder where the “It's so easy to buy illegal guns and ammunition” crowd get their information from.
If it's so easy, I wouldn't mind you giving me a few tips and tricks. I'd love to have a gun.
Seeing this video is the first time I have heard about any consultation. I have air rifles and pistol which I use in the confines of my property. I do not belong to any club for shooting now and haven’t done so for years. So not likely to hear about the consultation unless widely advertised, which it wasn’t.
i have been a member and committee member of a NSRA and County affiliated club for more years than I can count, I knew nothing of this consultation.
Says it all! done on purpose!
I would have replied to the consolation, but was not aware one was taking place. This does not make me pathetic.
This is the first I am hearing of this. I feel the majority of people didn't hear about this and still don't know about it. The only reason I now know is due to CZcams recommending the video
Thank you for the update, I didn't know about the consultation until you told me, I completed it because you said important. But I don't have time to tune in to every video, I would suggest that is the reason so few completed, life is so busy. It's not right but it's life, if they wanted a full consultation they'd have sent to every licence holder. Sounds like we got away lightly though.
Callum, you questioned why anybody would want anything other than .22rf at a miniature range. There was a very good, historical reason for this. When the idea was first dreamt up, the use of 'sub-calibre' .23" CF cartridges such as the 'Morris-Tube' rounds, where a sub-calibre device was fitted to a service rifle, was not uncommon. .22"rf was not the only cost-effective game in town. Things have moved on.
I’m amazed so many say they didn’t know of this consultation as it was all over basc, various forums & shared widely over social media.
There was plenty of people bitching and moaning about it, so I'm not sure why they are now claiming no one told them.
But we do love a good moan in this country don't we.
Thanks for the updates callum
Great stuff Callum, very informative, I always keep a look out for your content!
Thanks!
Great breakdown and clarification as well as calling out the lack of support from within the community itsel
I dont agree with you all the time , but this time you hit the nail on the head , until an organization can bring together all shooters , rifle . shot gun . air rifle , we will continue down the path of more laws and pricing the average joe out of the sport . great review , may be you should start this organization .
Thanks Roy
Shooting body’s need to get their acts together,be more cohesive,don’t hold your breath.
With the low numbers from the shooting community, I wold ask, did they know?
We had a similar thing here in Australia and I for one only found out about the survey a couple of weeks after it closed.
The Gumbyment and the anti everything crew try to keep these sorts of things quiet so they can manipulate the data and outcomes.
I hold section 1 and 2 had it for 3 years I know nothing of this consultation no email or letter about this 🤷🏻♂️
I shamefully was unaware of the consultation.
That I blame on the organisations and their ridiculously low effect to raise awareness.
Hello Sir, Thank you for your effort and care in making this film.
Great video - thank you for the summary
Glad it was helpful!
Hello from America- I watched this video with my mouth hanging open at the restrictions you folks already have to navigate. Keep up the good fight!
As an American. I feel sorry for u brits. Maybe this community will understand why we fight so hard for our rights. Govt regulations is always a way to tax the people.
The consultation was not widely announced I only heard of it after it had been completed but that is probably what was intended.
I did the survey after seeing it on here and posted it on other groups I'm on .
So like you I'm extremely disappointed with how few did it.
Thanks for letting me know what’s going on.
If people didn’t know that there was a consultation how are they supposed to reply??
Of course if people didn't know about it then that's not their fault, which is why I also blame the organisations. BASC has 150,000 members, yet we get 2,300 responses, why was more not done to encourage their membership to compete it. Same goes for the NRA, Countryside Alliance ect
@@EnglishShooting Once the legislation is drafted there will be opportunity to lobby as groups, and also individually of individual MPs. The same people who claim now they would have responded to a consultation had they known about it will have a chance to talk to their own MPs; they wont do it, and will moan afterwards. Guarantee.
I think the lack of a response has been caused by 1) A weary acceptance of a death by a thousand cuts that no previous campaign prevented. Consider the anti-Handgun ban march. 2. I did respond this this consultation but hated the language and construction of the questions - it was as though they were trying to steer the consultation towards further control. I could see those who can’t suffer fools throwing in the trowel and aborting halfway through.
@William Tell but its a catch 22 isn't. I too filled out the consultation and answering the questions felt like signing your own death warrant. with questions being something like "do you agree with the proposed new rules? yes or no they don't go far enough. you can't win.
The home office needs to secure our borders
Was never aware of the consultation
I cant tell you how many Air Gun focused groups I follow on Facebook... but its a lot. I've honestly not heard a whisper about this. But you're absolutely right... WE are to blame for allowing this to happen.
This consultation begins on 24 November 2020. This consultation ends on 16 February 2021. As far as your average air gunner is concerned, this quote comes to mind "It was on display in the bottom of a locked filing cabinet stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying 'Beware of the Leopard.” D. Adams :)
The .23 calibre for miniature rifle ranges comes from some of the early calibre use by the "Morrison tube" .303 conversions and the like.
Was not aware of the consultation
Brilliant just brilliant thank you for this video
Seeing your channel was the first I heard about this!
We own an air rifle we bought for my son we are also looking at a second air rifle for my youngest son, I would love to have more ranges in our area as the private property I had permission on changed hands during lockdown and we are now finding it difficult to get somewhere to shoot, however all the points you raised are valid and it is a disgrace that more people didn’t exercise their right to reply and it is extremely detrimental to the sport keep up the great work looking forward to more content !
What area are you in ?
@@nickcoppard5335 we live in Carlisle I’ve inquired at the two clubs I know of one would be spot on but they meet late at night, and the other club said they’re not looking for new members at the moment !
@@markaldersey2663 shame , I am in Sussex, sorry
I've just done my renewal, I was told if I don't get a level 3 monitored alarm they'll be removing some of my guns..
I did not know anything about this... i will forward to my club members
I never even heard about this 'consultation' until now
I notice that the criminals did not respond. What an apathetic bunch.
Criminals are dead set against more restrictions, the less guns we have the less they have to try and steal.
Thanks For The Update Callum !! Those Guys Who Didn't Sign Can't Complain Now !!!!!!!!!
I did not know anything about this, why did they not send out letters to all licence holders
Yet nothing from BASC?What a surprise!
I only became aware of the consultation when I received an e-mail from BASC. I completed the consultation document but found all the questions in the document to be worded in favour of tighter legislation. There was a remarks box after each question and I had complete each one to to give a balanced opinion to the biased worded questions.
This is the first time ive seen this consultation.
Maybe we should start sending letters to the Home Secretary
Hello Callum,
I was just thinking on the component parts of Ammo, how will this work with muzzle loaders?
People who collect deactivated rounds/ dummy rounds?
Blanks?
And even people who make their own blanks or dummy rounds?
Edit: also trench art or people who make cuff links, buttons, whistles, bottle openers, and various other things from casing’s or dummy rounds?
And there are people who use musket balls for their models to give them more weight, like on boats to keep them stable.
Or trains to give them more pulling power.
I have what I presume was a 40mm dummy or practice round, it was one of two, joined together to make a table leg!!, and looked like a commercially available product, imagine having a warehouse full of them and someone wanted to make a point.
@@CrusaderSports250 Nice!
And this is the thing I know people who have businesses (not big ones.) who makes little shooting accessories for you keyrings and such.
Some gun smiths make them as a gift for using them and so on.
Black powder used to (presumably still does) require a separate explosives licence which stipulated the maximum amount you could hold.
15:00 here in oz we had to shorten matches to allowed for lack of reloading stuff
I’m an airgunner. Had absolutely no idea this consultation was happening.
Great summary.
The apathy in our shooting community is truly horrifying.
To those saying they didn't know about the survey, I afraid we engage in a sport that is always under threat, you have to keep up with what's occurring in the same way you have to update yourself with the myriad driving laws /regulations
How would anyone know about it, if the Ukraine war wasn't plastered over the news you wouldn't know their was a war
Dozens of changes in legislation happen every month just waiting to catch you out when you unknowingly fall foul of them
ask how many drivers on the road know the new legislation about bikes and pedestrians, i bet not even 50% will ! and that was plastered all over the tv for weeks
In law ignorance is no defence, you will get done for breaking a law even if you were unaware... Same principle applies
I agree. Every shooter I know, knew about the consultation. NRA journal, FB shooting groups, rifle magazines. Was in all of them. If shooters choose not to be informed and kept up to date then its their own fault.
only found out about the consultation by sheer accident a couple of days before it closed, i'm wondering if this was planned so there would be minimal response rate
And.... 99% of airgun owners will have no idea there was a consultation and certainly wont know that laws will have been changed.
There is still plenty of Brocock air cartridge gun owners around that dont have a license.. Mainly because they dont know.
Not sure that is actually case, brocock ban was well publicised.
In Scotland, an adult requires an Air Weapons Certificate before purchasing an air rifle or pistol. The waiting period is quite long too. In certain circumstances, a candlestick in the library might be described as a "weapon."
I am a member of that community but no one ever sent me anything to do with this so if we knew nothing about it how are we meant to respond?
Great job bud
I'll subscribe to you now I've found you to keep up to date on issues
Why didn't I know about this? If I had known, I would definitely have made a contribution! I can't believe none of the regular air gun reviewers (of which I watch on a regular basis) have brought attention to this matter. I only found your channel by accident while browsing UTube, of which I have now subscribed to. I also occasionally go to a Sunday morning meet up and shoot with other air gun enthusiasts. No mention by anyone yet the meeting is managed by someone who is in the trade, yet again, nothing, not even a hand written poster where everyone signing in could have been displayed. It's to late now I know, but thank you for at least bringing it to our attention. At least I can hear any new information from you now. I'm going to pass your channel to all of my fellow air gun shooters. Next time I might be at least informed of any new that might affect us and hopefully do something this time. Many thank. 👍
The reason there was such a poor response to the impending legislation (IMO) is people know they are wasting they're breath.
Your right mate
Didn't know about this
You say it's a poor response, I never even heard there was a consultation, have you checked how many people knew this was going on, do you know people willingly ignored the consultation, or perhaps they like me never even knew. We have some of the toughest gun laws, but criminals can easily get guns and specially in cities gun crime is rampant, all the laws have done is stop people from owning and using guns, while criminals can carry on unhindered
It's alright having our say IF we know anything about the "consultation" in the first place!
Had no idea the consultation was happening.
Makes no difference they will do what they want to do whatever you say
Transporting HME and Ammo separate is do-able when travelling to a range. (agree it shouldn't come into force). But if you are travelling to a hunting ground, are you supposed to take your rifle, leave it there unattended, while you travel a couple of miles home to pick up your ammo? By the way, I was one of the few who answered the questions..
HME is 50 cal basically, it will affect target shooters that use 50 BMG
@@aaront2131 fair enough. We don't hunt anything near here with 50bmg
A 308 shooting 3100 fps with a 168gn bullet is inside hme
@@rosst6688 I think though that they set the limit higher when discussing HME in this context. much higher than 300wm let alone 308. As was said its basically just 50 bmg which gets affected
I didn't know there was a consultation.
Don't blame the people, blame the system for these consultations because they don't have to publicise them. Its like local councils who have funding or services on offer that they don't advertise and don't do so for reasons, usually to hide them to get the results that they want.
Your spot on shooter apathy and division will destroy our sport long before the anti everything.BASC are just useless we really need a new entity to protect sporting shooting not rich out of touch clique,s.Stay safe good post.Kind regards Tony
I was totally unaware of this consultation. As a certificate holder, i would have assumed that as such, i would have had some form of contact, informing me of it. Sadly not.
never heard out about this from my gun shop or in any of the airgun mags, as below though why not have sent a consultation paper to the adresses held
I don't recall seeing any opportunity to reply to the survey questions, where would it have been?
this is first ive heard of this
I am a member of three clubs and only one was notified I told the other clubs people can't vote when they know nothing about what is going on why is it not being made more public
Never knew about it. Why was I not informed as I have a licence with my name and address on it !!
why have i just heard of this!!
The mini rifle loophole is nuts and I am happy to see it changing.
How?
@@kylethedalek How what exactly?
@@MajorJimPlays How is it nuts?
@@kylethedalek Allowing people to buy firearms and ammunition without a firearms certificate? Res ipsa loquitur!
@@MajorJimPlays Yes?
So freedom is now obsolete?
I didn’t hear anyone getting firearms this way and hurting people?
Yet there is shootings every week in cities with gangs, did they get an FAC?
This makes me glad I live in Texas. A few years ago I was attacked by a herd bull with aggression issues and the only reason I survived is because I happened to have with me a .30 caliber semiautomatic battle rifle with a 20 round magazine.
I now call that rifle "El Matador".