Picking your references for your FAC application
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- čas přidán 15. 06. 2020
- A requirement for UK Shotgun (SGC) and Firearm (FAC) certificate application are references, one for an SGC and two for a FAC. Who should you choose for your best chance of success and what do they need to do?
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Love your videos!! Full of useful information and well researched. Many thanks!!
Thank you for a peek at the current requirements You are required to abide by in the U.K., and These requirements were pretty much beyond your control for the most part............... That being said I feel very fortunate to live in Idaho, United States. Good luck/
I’m in the middle of getting mine sorted as we speak so this video is the information I’m needing, cheers mate
Cheers mate
Fantastic info awesome vid,im a SGC holder lookin at goin for mine hopefully end of the year😛
Glad you found it useful! Best luck with the FAC 🙂
Waiting on hearing back from a local club to join and hoping soon to apply for my FAC. I already have my SGC so hoping this doesn't take too long to go through once I'm ready.
So... my mate who just completed a phd is probably better than the mate who narrowly dodged a theft charge?
One of my long standing friends/associates is a Justice of the peace and company director. Ive known him for 40 years. He's happy to put his name to my SGC applications.
I just asked... Hey Paul, would you be willing to sign my SGC application?
He said, Yeah gimme it here.
I don’t know if it’s just me but camera quality looks amazing 👍
Nice to hear the new camera wasn’t a waste 😂
EnglishShooting yeah seriously top quality..!
Another great vid and Even More great info. Would you say that there is a specific age people apply for a sgc or fac? And do the police take that into consideration when deciding to grant you a sgc or fac? Im 19 with no criminal convictions thats looking to get into the sport of shooting. I was gifted my first air rifle when i was 6 and have been shooting for 13 years so im very well disciplined when it comes to firearm saftey and responsibility. Any help/info on this would be appreciated. Cheers
I’m still here
so basically getting a referee is just the goverment checking that you aren't a billy no mates
Pretty much!
What if you are a billy no mates but are really into shooting and not for a sinister reason, just quieter and prefer your own company to that of others.
@@stevenwolf8483 then you will struggle, if you haven't got anyone then you may have to stick with your local gun club for two years before applying mate
So are you confident that you'll be successful in your application for an FAC?
You put yourself out there on this channel so they have a lot to go off. I hope you do and wish you luck.
why is a dr of higher standing than a brickie? this is wrong
Like you say probably good to put down people with a bit of clout.
Always thought the old ridgid system was pretty archaic though.
Made me chuckle that, 'publican' was on the list of aproved referees.
Although to be fair how hard is it to behave yourself during meetings with your accountant.
Whereas the landlord at your local.....😂
Great video Callum 👍🏻
When I applied for my FAC, they told me they wouldn’t accept anyone from my fiancée’s family as one of my referees. It had to be someone completely unrelated to me and my fiancée
I had the same response from my FAO.
Where can I find the list of firearms I can apply for. I previously owed a colt .45 1911a1, .357 ruger magnum, .308 parker hale rifle and a pump action shotgun, back in the day. I left the British army and joined a shooting club. All changed now.
The shooting club or your local RFD will be able to help you there
There's no list. Just look at Section 5 of the Firearms Act and anything not covered there can be owned on either FAC or SGC.
Do I need to be a club member to get an fac?? I currently have a sgc and shoot on a few farms. I was going to put in for a 22lr. Do I need to join a club first??
Nope, being a member of a club is an easy way to get approved for target shooting, but if you're after the 22LR for vermin control you already have land that you shoot over so that is reason enough. Just need a letter from the land owner saying you have permission to shoot over their land to provide to the FEO when they have their interview with you before granting your certificate
Many thanks for the reply!! fantastic thanks
I always thought the old criteria for a 'person of good character' was rather elitist and snobbish. Glad they changed it!
I know it's like they were stopping lower income people from owning firearms
@@Kaiyats Yes, why world would they...
Is Conners the only shooter in the uk to have an FAC without and SGC? Never heard of anyone like that!
There's a few others I know of but it is odd 😂
Does anyone know if my referees need to send a separate letter to my application? I saw somewhere online saying they have to send a letter themselves stating that I am of good character etc.
No, I don’t believe they do. The police will contact them if they do a character reference. You just need to provide their details.
"Took a little more persuasion than i would have liked."? What exactly does that mean Callum?
It's just a joke, with the previous issues I've had with firearms licensing it's not a small ask being my references.
How long should I wait before asking for my licence to have an open ticket?
My FAO told me to wait at least a year after granting my fac
It will depend on your licensing department but I've been told of up to 5 years experiance with some forces.
what if the people you are choosing are anti-gun ? is that a problem ?
Not for the police, but for you yes, you'll have to get their agreement to be referees so that'll the hard part, I'd think carefully because if they contact them and they seem not overly happy then that may sound alarm bells which isn't your fault.
Not really but if they are extreme anti-gun you might want to consider if they would sabotage your license or whether they would even agree.
@@EnglishShooting oh i get it. doh. almost seems irrelevant if you already know them and they are pro-gun biased.
I thought corners was an rfd Callum???
He's a servant of an RFD which means he can still be a referee.
Can the reference be retired police?
I believe the wording is current serving so retired should be ok
I'm curious, if a person is granted an FAC and if they were to commit a crime with the firearm, would the referees be in part legally responsible?
There's no legal responsibility for the referees, ultimately the decision to issue an FAC is down to the chief of police.
What about a retired military officer
They should be fine for a reference.
Damn, the camera quality stepped up a bit eh
Thanks!
Callum just asking, conners and Alex are not rfds then ?
It’s a different Alex, and Conners is only an RFD servant.
EnglishShooting oh I see got it now! Just asking , was curious.
Can it be someone from a different county?
No. Can't even be Northern Ireland. Has to be someone resident in Great Britain.
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There's 10 minutes of my life I won't get back!
No one is forcing you to watch 😂
That makes no sense whatsoever, so see a video titled "Picking your references for your FAC application" and press it, watch it, and then wonder why you were bored watching a guy talk about picking your references for your FAC application? .... were you dropped on your head as a baby?
@@zzzzz77771 Humour is lost on bellends like you. keep your bullshit opinions to yourself.
Been through this several years ago but still found it interesting.