THE TRUTH ABOUT CORONAVIRUS IN SWEDEN! (from an American living in Sweden)
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An American living in Sweden discusses the Swedish experiment around the Coronavirus pandemic with his Swedish girlfriend. Unlike most other countries, Sweden not enforcing a strict quarantine to combat COVID-19, instead, Swedish health authorities are setting "guidelines" for social distancing. Are most Swedes respecting the guidelines? Is Donald Trump right about what he said regarding Sweden's response to Corona? Is it a failure.
In this video we talk about the pros and cons of how Sweden is handling the Coronavirus outbreak.
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You and your gf ended up looking like this🤡🤡🤡 this video didn't age well at all!
The stats you have put are wrong. Worldometer collects the numbers of the graph you have put from the WHo, which is a completely biased organisation.
Covid is a huge scam.
We all need to social distance ourselves from the media.
BEST most truthful comment ever made
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No kidding.
They are nothing short of a DISGRACE.Constantly putting fear onto people 24/7.The fear will be worse than the virus
yea, like in Italy we had some towns with more that 5400% of deaths compared to other years. Totally fine. It's just a flu broh.
www.ecodibergamo.it/stories/bergamo-citta/coronavirus-the-real-death-tool-4500-victims-in-one-month-in-the-province-of_1347414_11/
HAHAHAHAHA SWEDEN IS GOING TO BE SO FUCKED UP
I am a Taiwanese living in Sweden. Just want to clarify - Taiwan imposes no lockdown. Like Sweden, it’s business as usual, schools are open. People are acting very cautiously when going about their lives. Public spaces (elevator buttons, handrails etc) are cleaned and sanitized several times a day to prevent contact transmissions. Temperatures are checked and sanitizers offered at the entrance if you are to enter buildings/offices, some restaurants/cafes. People wear masks and practice social distancing. Mass gatherings are canceled or advised to be canceled.
What’s different is that Taiwan imposes containment measures and has been doing rigorous contact tracing since the beginning of January. So people who came in contact with patients tested positive or people who entered into Taiwan are required to do mandatory self quarantine at home for 14 days while the rest of the population goes about their businesses. These people are subsidized as an encouragement to stay home. So the goal is to limit the spread to the minimal extent in order to buy time for effective anti-viral medicine and vaccine.
Sweden on the other hand is not really containing the spread. The strategy here is to reach the herd immunity status so the goal is not to limit the spread but to let the disease spread slowly through population. However, when we could reach the herd immunity status remains debatable within the public health community. And there is no consensus with regard to how long the immunity will last. Also, at this point, we don’t even know exactly what percentage the spread is here in Sweden. The statistics offered by HFM are built on various assumptions and theoretical modelling. Also, we don’t even know if there will be long-term damage to the lungs after young, healthy people have recovered from covid-19. I think people or even scientists are worried about Sweden’s approach because of these different unknown factors and the fact that we are dealing with a novel virus which we know little about.
At this point, it’s hard to say which approach or strategy is better. Guess we will know when this is over.
But regardless lockdown or no lockdown, the damage in economy is evident everywhere even in Sweden or Taiwan. No single country is able to get out of this with the so-called minimal economic tolls given the globalization.
Phoenie Chen I guess that’s the differences people don’t understand.... I live in Sweden but I’m from Portugal and lived in different countries in Asia. Sweden has 10x more deaths than its Scandinavian neighbors. I don’t find Sweden’s approach the best for this people, only for its economy and that’s sad
@@hilda.laura.amaral Let's just call it for what it is. Sweden is sacrificing its old and weak at a frightening rate! It's insane!
Taiwan did a great job becasue it moved on the virus SWIFTLY. People are better educated and obedient to the government.
@@ThorsteinnK Not at all! People over 70 and in risk groups are advised to isolate as much as possible. Most of them do. It is not allowed to visit nursing homes. Where is the sacrificing? I get the impression that you want Sweden to fail.
Veronica Lanzen so you are saying that those 2000 plus people who died are not old nor weak? I’m actually curious. People in their 40 & 50s can die too bc they are still working and their immune system is not like in their 20s, or they are considered old in Sweden and they are in their homes? also no ones wants Sweden to fails, we want people not to die, we want to see governments worried about economy but still putting people safety first
"There's zero corruption in the government..." Perhaps there's not as much as other countries, but seriously? You must live in a utopia.
Had to turn it off at that point. So silly
I haven't seen this level of innocence and naivety in a long time.
Is that the same swedish government that sold out to excepting all those muslim refugees, how that work out for you.
@@timmyjohnson2099 A SD supporter I see.
as they said, they are not expert on this, they are just normal.people, they need audience for mediocrity
Living in the U.S., I feel like the lockdowns have caused a lot of damage. Sweden had the right approach in dealing with the corona virus. That is really wonderful there is a good relationship between the Swedish government and its people (and vice versa). I wish it could be like that here in the U.S. (this country has become so divisive). I agree, that a lot of people are scared from watching the news and buying into everything the media says. I've been trying to live as “normally” as possible and not in fear. I know you have gotten a lot of comments on your video, but if you happen to see this, could you let me know how the situation in Sweden is today (December 2020)? Thank you so much for your video and sharing your thoughts and perspectives.
The politicization of this crisis has been absolutely pathetic.
This won't be fixed by May 4.
This won't be fixed June 4, July 4, August 4, September 4, October 4.
My prediction. This crisis will end November 4, as in the day after the election (November 3).
On November 4, this will cease to be a political football.
After all the next election will be two years away.
The politicians will also cease to care whether your "hero doctor" is overworked or dead, or if your grandmother is dead in a nursing home.
At least, not until the next election season.
My Governor reared up on his hind legs and proclaimed this is about science, not about politics.
When a politician says "it's not about politics", one thing you know.......it's about politics.
General Zod thats beacause its all fake and the numbers are fake
all this is a pretext for what s coming right after corona
There is a certain group of people in the US who will do and say anything in hopes of damaging the Trump presidency. Scary people more so than the virus itself
Amen brother. Either you're a proper good liberal and for a complete lockdown until the vaccine arrives or you're an extreme Trumpist who wants to open the economy tomorrow. I've been a liberal progressive my whole life, and I've recently been accused of being a Trump supporter because I disagree with the mainstream media narrative.
The way this virus has been politicized was the last straw for me as a lifelong democratic voter. Say what you will about trump, but the reaction to him from Democrats, which has included idolizing neoconservative scam artists, and defending a dysfunctional status quo in our domestic and foreign policies, has exposed just how full of crap the democratic party truly is. Trumps heterodoxy has made it impossible for them to continue to play good cop to the Republicans bad cop in a way that is coherent and believable. And so they are becoming increasingly erratic and hysterical. And desperate to get back to the kind of "normalcy" where the two parties stick to the program of distracting and dividing the electorate by politicizing social issues that will never be resolved, while continuing down a road that is leading towards a future where wealth and power are consolidated into a tiny group of multinational corporations.
In South Korea, we do feel much safer, no second wave at all. New confrimed patient is less than 10 people in whole nation. So far I'm quite proud of my nation and our all medical supports
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I Love you series on Netflix - South Korea rock big time😀! God job on the Virus!! Greetings from Sweden👍.
You are going to get the virus again when the airplanes starts going..
I'm very proud of South Korea too. However, your people and your government suffered before with SARS and therefore, you were much well prepared than the rest of the world. You were educated about masks and social distancing long before Europe.Moreover, the South Korean government with the previous outbreaks already had a system in place. You are also some of the smartest people in the world, you know how to behave. Unfortunately, your approach only work well in a country where the people are responsible as much as the South Koreans are. I do have some criticism but you are definitely in a much better position than the rest of the world because you have been effectively testing, what others, especially EU countries are failing to do.
I rather live in a country that values privacy!
@@Coconut7403 I rather be alive and not hiding
Thank you for everything ❤️
Thank you guys for making this video. In case people attack you for "not caring about elderly people" let me tell you that my own grandfather died 10 years ago because he caught a virus. We loved him and we miss him and wish he didn't catch a virus but he did. He's immune system couldn't handle it because he was old. This is life, viruses are part of this world and we can't lock down our lives because of it.
Long story short: Swedish people rarely live with their parents or grandparents, they often live by themselves. And the government has Universal Healthcare and Paid Sick Leave, they do not force employees to go back to work while sick. These things make self quarantine, social distancing, and protection of the elderly much more practical.
And a whole lot easier when dealing with 10M and not 330M people with individual thought process.
Other governments encouraged the spread of the virus by containing the young with the old this happened once the schools were closed
But unfortunately the elders still got sick, especially in Stockholm. I heard a story that a woman had covid-19 and still worked at the elderly home! That’s horrible... But it seems that it has gotten better now.
Just as a lot of other countries actually. Meanwhile the rates per million are going up in Sweden. Thing is, there are only 10 million people living in Sweden and the country is big. That's why this sort of works. Compared to a country like Taiwan the situation is not that good.
Sorry, does not explain the low death rate as compared to the UK! Sweden introduced safe distancing and testing immediately and but without locking down the economy. This resulted in stopping the virus traveling. The population continued going to work, pubs, restaurants etc. They did not confine themselves their homes as you have stated. The UK got it wrong from the start by stopping testing! The government listened to the likes of Prof. Ferguson who has a 20 yer record of failed epidemic modelling!
Fear! Fear! Fear!....turn off the Television, you’ll start to feel so much better.
Amen!
Very true
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”The healthcare system is not at capacity”
That did not age well
Our healthcare system is at capacity, and we vaccinated the most people in europe (hungary) and have lockdown,
Probably lockdowns had negligible effect.
@@jacintfodor1296 That is a very poor analysis of the effects of lockdowns lol. If you look at data trends, lockdowns absolutely have a massive effect. Whether they prevent a healthcare system from getting to capacity or not at any place in the world depends on many factors, from when the lockdowns started, how strict they were, how long they lasted, the surrounding culture of the area, the strength of the healthcare system in that area, etc. etc.
@@GrayOlson u can cherry pick countries who did better or worse than sweden, I meant that with probably negligible effect.
If sweden did exponentially worse compared to countries with lockdowns. then I would say lockdowns was 100% effective.
the order of magnitude is around the same in sweden compared to other countries.
Flattening the curve by lockdowns, implicates that casualty should be exponentially lower.
Not to mention (in my country cannot say for others) early store closes, cramped people in stores very close together. that methodology probably catalyzed covid spreading, instead of preventing.
now that our government started extending the curfew, there are far less people in stores at the same time.
TLDR,
1 hungary and italy did worse than sweden,
2 while denmark did better.
possible explanation for the 1st, is both italy and hungary underfunded their healthcare system.
@@jacintfodor1296 That's bs, in many countries they managed the pandemic so much better than Sweden if you keep denying that you are just in denial
@@zarzamora9240 if that's bs is your strongest argument, I'm sad. You clearly did not even read my last comment.
As a 70-year-old, I rather resent young beautiful people talking as if my life is less worthy then theirs.
Your life is more precious than ours. Thats why you need to isolate and do exercise alone outside and ask for assistance with shopping for a while. I have thought long and hard about this but we that count as riscgroups need to take precautions and stay safe for a while. We can survive this together. There is a tomorrow for all of us, young and elderly.
I am so sorry you feel like that. I am 24 years old, living in Sweden and being MOCKED for isolating myself (I'm a student so I am able to). You have no idea the stress I'm going through because people simply cannot accept that I think the best for me and for everyone else is to keep distance from everyone. They don't like that I don't give my time to them when they want me to. In the past 2 or 3 months I have been so stressed and depressed and not because I'm isolated, but because people don't respect me at all! I have to say this whole situation made me very disappointed on swedes in general because apparently you either do what everyone is doing or you get mocked by everyone. I am doing this for myself and for any other person who I might get in contact with. I rather play safe than sorry, differently than everyone else... Their lack of empathy makes me sad and disgusted. Just know your life matters TO ME.
This is targeted, this is not a real pathogen folks!!! Those who have had flu shots ( elderly anyone?) Have been the high risk and targeted.
This is depop, elderly first then all the rest next wave. The children that will be sacrificed in next 6-8 months off the charts.... This is evil
Bea Giusti Whenever there’s a vaccine, change countries. My heart ❤️ goes to you 🙏
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"There's zero corruption in the government." - Ignorance is bliss
Totally :) LOL
lol "zero corruption and government" in the same sentence made me smile then burst into laughter.
I had the same thought- Greetings from Norway. There is no such as a country where there is no form of corruption in the structure of the worlds/countries. Its impossible to have zero, its just human nature to want more and scheme towards our own benefits and or for others benefits and try to turn things into a positive to achieve those goals.
Watch videos of The Angry Foreigner for real info about sweden.
@@catwalkster they stated in the beginning that what they say is not fact it is their " personal " opinions and should not be taken as fact .
Correction: Taiwan was never locked down, they are one of the countries that responded to Covid-19 very early on, sounding the alarm to the world health organization (WHO) but was ignored due to politics. Taiwan has successfully contained the spread on its own without the help from WHO.
Dragonfly Rising, thank you for correcting👍🏼👏🏼!
I am from Taiwan. Your correction is right. We have never locked down (so far), because we are the earliest to take action. We also have enough domestic production of masks and other necessary equipment. We are taking precautions, such as requiring everyone in public transport to wear a mask. The precautionary actions and cooperation of the public has helped us handle the virus well.
As a American and want to visit Taiwan, is there a two week quarantine period for me after I arrive?
@@tedl1441 while d WHO says don't wear masks🙄
The United States is not like Sweden. We have a terrible time with Covid. This means we’re needing to have lock downs.
Given the new restrictions imposed, it maybe interesting to put a follow up video out there!
zero corruption? Come on, dude.
The corruption perception index ranked Sweden number four in 2019. Which means that if not none, then the corruption level is very very low.
Unfortunately, in the USA we are more unhealthy than Sweden. Obesity, hypertension, diabetes, cardiovascular disease all plays a part in our mortality rate.
I'd say also, your pictures show people outside. That has been documented to help stop the spread. Find me a row a restaurant's with outdoor seating like that during winter/ colder months. I teach, if I asked my students to play outside, I'd spend handed the time listening them complain about cold they are because fashion is more important than function. (I work just outside a city, so the populace view a bit skewed).
Because they feed you with junk food and gmo food , flouride water etc. , In the U.S. your life and your soul belongs to the governments
And don't forget that new yorks hospital system already breaks under a common flu: time.com/5107984/hospitals-handling-burden-flu-patients/
Even in the USA under 45 has very few deaths. Those over 50 just stay home. The rest of us will go back to work and keep the machine running.
@@carlosgrajales44 You are wrong! The corporations own us.
I feel like we could cure the coronavirus by just shutting off our televisions.
Yes sir!
Fear lower immune system response.
Damn right
Totally agree! (I don't switch mine on!)
24/7 fear porn on the tv to sell this fake plandemic. The virus is real, but it's not the black death, that's for sure.
Tack så mycket för att ni tar upp det här till och med folk i skolan har börjat tro på det andra länders nyheter än vad som är här 👍🏻🙏🏻❤️
I appreciate the common sense approach. I live in a small town in Massachusetts USA and am afraid for the small businesses who may not recover from the shutdown. Keeping our immune systems strong includes fresh air and sunshine as well as social contact (in a safe and distanced way). I think this has been an extreme response from the federal government that will have disastrous results overall. Thank you for sharing your experiences.
The small business will recover... eventually. In mean time the banks and the rich will buy whatever they like at half price ;)
Thank you for mentioning sunlight. Almost everyone who died from Covid was low in vitamin D. Sunlight is the best source of vitamin D.
Your comment as this video aed so badly
The key: homogeneity of class, less overcrowding (single households), hospitals are not at capacity. Different infrastructure. We have urban “hotspots” of overcrowding. Overwhelmed testing and healthcare systems.
Well ... "homogene in class" is very dubious. The death rate in poor immigrant surburbs is much higher.
If you are talking about the US, where is our overwhelmed health care system? Most hospitals are total ghost towns, ironically needing to lay *off* health care workers because of ridiculously draconian lockdowns. The only system that got remotely close to overwhelmed is NYC’s, but only a small, and not surprisingly, highly publicized number. No one that needed an ICU bed or ventilator didn’t get one.
This video makes too much sense. Why hasn't CZcams removed it?
Sweden's deaths per million population is even higher than USA. See www.statista.com/statistics/1104709/coronavirus-deaths-worldwide-per-million-inhabitants/ yourself.
bin chen that is still not considerably higher though. Few more deaths per MILLION people.
@@TaijaT76 The US is likely massively under reporting deaths - there isn't blanket testing of all deaths, even if suspected www.forbes.com/sites/joshuacohen/2020/04/14/underreporting-of-covid-19-deaths-in-the-us-and-europe/#316f207b82d7
@@binchen Everyone knows the numbers are inflated
@@user-uy6uc5ey5q The death counts come from the hospitals not the government. And hospitals are inflating the numbers for $$
I think Sweden was right to introduce lighter measures. There's no sense of shutting down everything. You can see how it ends: agressive protests (not only in the US), thousands of people losing there jobs, anxiety, depression, mental problems... and yes, people die from covid but most of them would die anyway from other diseases, sadly. I totally agree with lighter measures, because you can ot really see in Sweden these disadvantageous consecuences of the total closure. Most younger people would be okay with covid, experts say this, so why closing schools and jobs? Protect the elderly, give them quarantine, tell younger not to get too close to their elder family members, raise consciousness about this and let the under-60-year-olds live their lives!!!
“The people Trust their Government and the government Trust it’s people”. Sweden is already ahead of the world with that one simple statement. Here in the USA, not so much.
Greetings from Australia. I am sitting on the fence in handling this virus. The anxiety around Covid -19 is quite toxic, people may die from a broken heart with no hugs and affection for months. Also lack of vitamin D & lack of being outside is now linked to higher risk of getting Covid-19.
And yet we've done well to flatten the curve with lock downs. This was achieved early, and we are the envy of the world. But yeah, life in Victoria has sucked until last night when the laws relaxed a bit.
@@clumpft Yeah great job Lockdown’ Suicide Rise to Kill More Australians than COVID-19. etc you all failed you caused way more harm and zero good with hysteria panic lockdown....
@@clumpft data in Australia says it's not going to kill anybody unless they already have a health problem or are old and weak. Those are the folks who ought to be in quarantine.
@@sumerbabylon7069 Absolutely. Also more domestic violence. I'm appalled at how stupid the Australian government is (also bought by Big Pharma) - and how easily people here are brainwashed by the fear-mongering fake news mainstream media.
@@one4320 Exactly!
I 100% agree with all you have said .There is Drs out here in the US trying to tell everyone the same thing you just said , but people are so freaked out
in germany they dont even get heared. more like: they get mashed from the media.
@@Gamehub1339 thankfully, bullshit has short flies in germany
yeah, everywhere in the world this kind of anti-science bullshit is being propelled
Those doctors have been proven wrong over and over again. Full echo chamber garbage.
I stopped watching when you said: “There's zero corruption in the government.“ You are living in your utopia.
me too
Obviously their government is better than most, equally obvious that all people are subject to corruption and it takes a vigilant populace to maintain integrity in governments. Having said that if your feeling that everything is corrupt do research on Bhutan where the government is actually remarkably sane.Human goodness is possible.
Compared to USA and Trump, yes there are no corruption.
Actually Sweden is only one of the few countries in the World that pratices a Direct Democracy. Everyone else in the world is soley bent on a Representative Democracy. This is why there is never ending corruption in the US, China, Russia (although not as bad), North Korea, Crimea, etc
Plus the fact that the actual gun owners in Sweden are trained in gun use before permitts and licensure are issued and are given a mental health check evaluation before permits and certificates are actually issued out. In the US everyone is given a gun and given little to no training.
Please give us a Sequel now. Great video.
I'm from Taiwan. Just want to correct your info. There hasn't been a lock down here at all. Everything is pretty normal, except that almost everyone wears a mask and people practice more social distancing. The government spends a lot of efforts tracking people who have contacted with the infected people. If you have contacted with them, you will be asked to self-quarantined at home for two weeks and then tested. So far this strategy works quite well. Very low spread and death. Most cases in the past month were people who came back from abroad. Very few domestic cases.
Taiwan's response is amazing from what I've heard (in the US). You were able to contain the virus, whereas we let it spread all over and the only option at that point was mitigation. We acted too late. It was very frustrating since we had the chance to follow what was happening elsewhere with a month's notice at least. Our government also doesn't care much about testing people (well the scientists emphasize it's grave importance, but the officials don't listen). Science saves lives...
I hear that Taiwan also got lucky, but then better lucky that good. Chinese tourism was cut off since summer 2019, because of a little spat between China and Taiwan. This does not downgrade the response, and containment that Taiwan achieved. But, your boarders are closed, and not many cases within your boarders. The questions, how to open those boarders, and when to open boarders. If you want to continue to keep these numbers of cases small you will need to keep your boarders closed until there is vaccine. That could be 1 year..... I'm still liking the response of Sweden more and more each day. Taiwan's numbers are excellent, but how long can this continue. A large part of Taiwan's GDP is electronics companies. TSMC is a good example, and in order to run companies like this you need to have open boarders. At some point the big question will be raised. Is a ?percentage? of death worth opening the boarders?
Benefits of living on an island.
So the communists would have you believe.
@@SailingAquarius its only people that are not allowed to travel. Goods still travel. Also 800k Taiwanese work in Mainland china, so Taiwan was very cautious from the very beginning since dec-jan.. Taiwan economy doing ok, also the vice pm of Taiwan is an epidemiologist
I am 64 years old with 2 underlying health issues. I made the decision to self isolate On March 10th. I think all people here in the United States should be allowed to make their own decisions as well. Give people the right to chose according to their individual health concerns. Sounds fair to me. I think Sweden has the right ideas on this. Thank you for the video.
If your choices only affected you, that would be an excellent argument. Since your choices affect anyone else you might come into contact with (and since once can spread the virus while being asymptomatic, you have 0 control unless you get regular testing - which one cannot), your supporting/core assumption would be null and void - and so is the argument. I do hope you stay healthy (physical and mental) during your isolation and take care.
kaladin she’s not saying it only affects the person she’s saying if you are ok with taking the risk go out and if you don’t want to take this risk stay inside like what she is doing...it’s really that simple
@@lukelabare6580 I understand. However those taking the risk are also increasing risks for others with whom they may come into contact (who might be out to conduct essential shopping only).
kaladin it seems to me there’s no 100% clear answer to this other than weighing the pros and cons of staying locked down or not depending on the area and how bad the numbers are, personally I side with if our areas leader says we should come out and restart things like opening up small businesses I’m all for it verses staying locked down
kaladin like Kathy said she made the decision to stay locked down and that’s her choice
"There's a certain community feeling in Sweden". Well yeah, Sweden has a population of 10 million, the U.S. about 330 million.
Yes. That's one reason why the comparisons aren't valid.
Do you have an up to date opinion for September 2020?
Wish I was in Sweden now.
Our economy is being flattened.
I live in the Netherlands
@Floor van Donkelaar I totally agree, wish the best to Sweden and Netherlands of course but I think this approach needs to be measured in the long run and it cannot be applied everywhere. Greetings from Costa Rica.
I am Iranian American and I have been living in Sweden ,Goteborg for two years, Running smal Vegan/vegetarian Café in Central with my Wife.
We are happy here and many thanks to these
Couples for telling the truth 🌹
I worked in Sweden for 1 year and left once the Covid closed the airports and I wanted to go home from that point but I have to say the social distance is daily thing, it was pretty boring over there compare to the U.K. so I think this is why they didn’t bother with lockdown just made aware of the moment you got the cold stay at home
“There’s no corruption in our government”
Bwahahaha!!! 🤣🤣
The programming in Sweden is obviously much better than in the USA.
@@hollyperrin7353 So ?? It´s still alot of corruption here. The socialist goverment loves to fake numbers to make things seem better then they are... In the future we will be like North korea.
@@TheOwlOfTheNorth When I said the programming is better, I mean to say that, according to this video, the people trust their government. In the USA, we've been programmed to trust our government, but it only seems to affect about half of the population.
@@hollyperrin7353 Yeah same here, the video make it seem like everyone here trust the goverment and it´s not true far from it. But people here have a thing for "experts" on MSM, they blindly belive everything but even there people start to wake up because it´s just to much problems here now to hide or twist it all away.
It actually is quite close to the truth.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_Perceptions_Index
A perfect score (ZERO corruption) is 100, Sweden is at 85.
When I heard you say that there is " zero corruption" in Sweden you lost me. There is corruption everywhere!
I think they said there was no government corruption.
@@judymurray191 Hard for an American to believe but compared to us, where without corruption the government would refuse to function as it is built into the system, I'll grant that Sweden has none.
Where there is money there is corruption, more or less
@@ariellango8963 Have you read 'The Girl wit the Dragon Tattoo'? Lol
Well, Sweden does not pay obscene salaries for the people working for the government (parliament, for instance!)... so, if you decide to work for the government you really want to serve your country... I live in Brazil right now where the politicians have obsene wages PLUS a LOT OF fringe benefits (they are all rich, but they get "support income for housing, for Suits (dah?!), and insurance for the WHOLE Family - even though they pay private insurance and have access to the best private hospital in the country, where as the common worker has a hard time getting minimal health care!) and Brazilian politicians made corruption into an art form! Even during the corona crisis, they still keep voting for more privileges for themselves (like pension for all their children until the age of 29 or so...!) and at the same time they zeroed down pension for the common workers... the time spans are so long that most people now will die before they can apply for pension! Even (unmarried) daughters of military personell have pensions (high) for life... why would you get married, then?! The school system is a sad thing to watch (I know, because I am a primary school teacher!). TH SUS (general health care) is a great IDEA, but in the reality way under funded and all the health care workers get really low wages, accross the board... so, the system works ALWAYS to its capacities... now in the corona crisis we see how importante the system is and how debilitated it was. The sanitary system in Brazil is a shambles... in a crisis like this, who will suffer the most?! No, not Middle and upper class... they have health insurance and all that jazz, live in well maintainde neighborhoods.... but the people wo live in very sub standard housing will suffer tremendously.. All of this is corruption... is crime against humanity... and it is done inn the name of politis, by politicians in greed...
How is that about corruption in comparisson with Sweden, huh?!
Dr. Erickson an emergency room Dr.of the Bakersfield CA talked about the same issues and generally agrees with your assessment.
Here's the thing tho, most doctors since the beginning have said what these two have said! Accompanied by facts. My issue is the people who aren't listening and who are not being reasonable.
Erickson is a quack
He worked in a walk-in clinic!
Genius Bonobo how is Dr Erickson a quack?
There are Doctors on both sides of the fence.
Guys you are obviously lovely people but still young. I'm 48 so in the middle age and my mother is 76 and I'm caring for her. So you can imagine I'm quite worried about the virus. I from the start realised that age has a lot to do with the opinions of people towards the virus.
im 52. I think heard immunity is common sense. I think the WHO wants to lock everyone away to create panic & worry and to STOP herd immunity, (as you said), so we can extend the virus until the VACCINE is ready and there is STILL an excuse to use it for everyone. The virus is a double-sided sword - The virus has also been a smokescreen to lock people up whilst they put up 5G towers everywhere. The side of the sword is to create a virus vaccine that has a nanoparticle of Silica that gets injected into everyone, silica doesn't break down and connects to the towers, so after the vaccines, everyone will be detected by the 5G towers. Where you are, where you've been will all be recorded. The silica molecule is too large, so they are looking to break it into a stack of circles one on top of the other and like a worm, that is small enough to get into the needle. This virus is NOT what everyone things. Before the virus, people were out protesting about 5G and burning down towers... NOW??? Nothing!!! The virus created a fear which worked & reactions that were exactly what they wanted.
@@donnapike827 5g is a wavelength. The virus is organic. They are in no way interconnected or related.
@@donnapike827 herd immunity is a myth, it doesn't exist with this new virus
@@lotussavage1283 you know if it's similar to the flu virus your right because it's been around forever and we haven't got herd immunity 😕
Okay, now say this personally to those people who actually lost a loved one. Tell how "effective" this method has been and how you completely trust the government. Just because you're still fine and healthy, doesn't mean it's "working".
Death is inevitable. There are more deaths from the flu every year; much more from many other causes like accidents, abortions.
What about those peole who lost a loved one to flu when the government didn't impose a lockdown. Try to put things into perspective.
Coronavirus, the simple flu. Immune compromised people or aged people demand a healthy diet. Anyone above 65 and smoking cigarettes and died with coronavirus and not from coronavirus. The low immune system, any virus can kill you. TB is 10 times more contagious. Any lockdown for TB?
@@mohankathe3332 I agree..deaths worldwide from flu is between 250,000 to 600,000! So you think they are doing it so that they can vaccinate us?
There is one area where we failed in Sweden and that is in the protection of elderly. However, looking at the daily death statistics, we are not higher than previous years (except for a period of 9 days).
This is true and the Swedish Chief Epimediologist, along with politicians, have admitted as much
How were they affected? They didn't keep social distancing in retirement homes and disabled homes?
@@almavysniauskaite3032 the government didn't close down visitation rights soon enough. They should have stopped visits and invested in education for staff in how to deal with this situation. They have remedied most if the situation but many elderly has died. Many of them would've likely passed away anyways but the government could've done more.
SOCIAL DISTANCE FROM THE GOVERNMENT WILL DO IT
@AUTHORITY OF NEW HEAVEN God ́s Wisdom! SO HELP ME GOD
@AUTHORITY OF NEW HEAVEN God ́s Wisdom! You need to go back to your happy place.
Remove all govt officials in USA
AUTHORITY OF NEW HEAVEN God ́s Wisdom!
You’re nuts.
I have 1,969 cases of people infected with the coronavirus where I live in Ottawa, Canada with 248 death. Ontario is still in a lockdown with small businesses opened on the street, restaurants only for take-out or delivery not sit down, dynacare, garden centres, and car dealerships. Hairdressers and dentists are locked down and so are schools. With doctors, people communicate by phone or in zoom. One cannot go to the doctor or hospital unless an emergency. I have been in a lockdown since the end of March. A few camping grounds and tennis courts are opened.
"We are taking this seriously..."
"I was at the gym this morning"
My finnish friends told (years ago) a funny joke about swedish do not even talk to each other
I know sweden a lot and i can state that social distance is more common in that culture than many other places
And in this situation it helps a lot
If swedes are already socially distant maybe this would work. However, I am living in Toronto where pre-chronovirus my personal space is invaded all the time. Even when it's avoidable. I don't think our culture in the city of Toronto would do well with their strategy.
I'd probably like it there, especially after cheek-to-jowl NYC (nowadays, being one of those "essential" workers, it's cheek-to-jowl with aggressive, very odoriferous homeless drug addicts who have taken over the subway).
Some of the oldest patients have done OK here through conservative measures (no ventilator use, judicious use of anticoagulants since much of the COVID problems are due to it causing blood clots, use of oxygen and expectorants). Those most adversely affected are those who are or have been smokers, obesity, diabetes, COPD, immuno-compromised people and people with heart disease.
Swedish approach can only work in sweden: effective govt, good healthcare system, educated and less brainwashed citizens, etc.
true that. It's a shame but people in those western countries are totally brainwashed and very well endoctrinated. We need to get rid of the media. The richest are getting richer right now and the poor getting poorer
Very true. In America, our healthcare system is all kinds of fucked up, we have way more people in a larger country, and our government doesn't want to take care of us because it's seen as a "handout" and people get all pissy about that and they want the money to go toward the corporations instead of the people. So people need to open their businesses back up. A lot of people think this is a fine way to live, but this is why our infection rate and death rate will be what it is. Sorry I used the word "people" so much and sorry for the run on sentences. It is what it is lol
Trump is right. Just take a look for yourself and you can see Sweden has more deaths per 1M people than the USA.
Juan Valdesz indeed. 3500+ deaths passing Netherlands in death rate, and we have 3.5 more than deaths than the rest of Nordic and baltic countries combined. An utter disaster denying oxygen masks to old people in the elderly homes and therby violating the Human Rights with the right to healthcare
@@juanvaldesz7603 ... And lots less than the UK, Spain, Italy... And the first wave is coming to an end, let's see how the countries that locked down handle their second wave. Choose your stats to keep you in your bubble of you like though
Please watch our strategy in Finland. Our economy is still running and our death rate is really low. Everything is open! Our 2nd wave is small and the numbers are dropping. Most of the people are using facemasks. We are your lovely neighbours and we do also speak swedish. You should take an example from Finland ☺️ I think Sweden should protect human lives and take responsibility about high death rate.
And i am not swedish! But they actually did the right thing. Excerpt from letting old people die
with out treatment!
Hi! In Austria the situation is positive and we are back to school.
That's awesome news,
It's not. We have stupid rules that try to control the daily business and people hate to go anywhere else than outside generally, because of insane regulations: masks in supermarket, also when leaving or entering restaurants, but not while sitting there. ome swimming place doesnt allow you to the water, the other does, but doesnt allow you to the beach and meadow around it.
there's tons of examples and it's just awful, also for school kids.
Same in New Zealand. Bars opened yesterday and taking the kids to the movies today. 2 months lock down eliminated the virus and now life back to normal except 14 day quarantine for all people entering the country. 21 dead out of 5m population.
@@MrHoneHeke New Zealand handled the situation amazingly. I wish it could have been like that in the U.S.
@@xxxblackvenomxxx what is awful about it? It seems to have worked perfectly.
I live in Sweden and I do exactly as your brother, cleaning my groceries:)
Yes, important to know where the risks are. Movement on the continent is controlled much better.
🤣 my shoes is broken,because I showered them every time I came home from outside the house
I live on Guam as USA territory and I also clean everything i buy from the grocery store. I don't wear my shoes in the house so it can disinfect outside the house and I change the clothes I wore put them on a towel then take them and immediately put them in the washer and dryer. Then I take a hot shower. Because I live with 3 senior citizens all past the age of 60. If I wasn't living with these people I'd be outside on the trails and parks enjoying my free time.
cleaning yr bread and meat and tomato sauce and going to eat out at fast food or other restaurant? what happens if any of the people who touched yr bread with gloves and virus on it or sneezed or coughed over yr food before they wrapped it in the plastic foil. yr eating what's inside, not the wrapping I hope
Because you have common sense! ❤️ Did they even read with the symptoms of this virus are? It’s not like you get the sniffles and that’s it. Even if you do survive, it’s horrible!
Good luck Sweden and god bless. From New Zealand 🇳🇿
It would seem that because of population differences, the most rational discussion is deaths per million within the population. Finland has 58; Norway has 44; Denmark has 99; Sweden has 435; The US has 321; the U.K. has 567.
Since none of us actually possesses magical tea leaves, the jury is still out.
Just a note, South Korea and Taiwan aren’t experiencing a second wave and they probably are the most exemplary countries to learn from on how to deal with this situation without going into a lockdown as neither of those two countries were in a lockdown.
Not surprising considering the average IQ of the people in those countries compared to ones in the United States. Especially the South and Midwest.
Plus Japan, Australia, New Zealand and Yisra'el...... too !
dave days : my reply was meant to you, not to 'F'.....
Niclas J.W. Not Japan, their cases are rising fast.
@@Zergcerebrates your source? Mine doesn't concurr. Given Japan's landmass and population I think they have a typical rate with these factors.
I'm from Spain. After a lockdown of almost 2 months, our herd immunity is only of 5%. What's been the point of all of this? Jobs ruined, a damaged economy...and almost the same risk of contagion
Open the country up. Keep the old, fat, weak people inside and let everyone else live free. It's sad to see how Spain operated and continues to operate.
@delonix regia Always up for a friendly competition. 😁 My city I'm in is opening up against our state's orders. We're tired of liberal socialist scumbags ruining our lives. We want our freedom back! Good luck reopening! God bless.
Spread of this virus is containable with the correct mitigation measures. Lockdown should be followed by some solid mitigation plans to greatly reduce the risk of another spike.
@@FunkyBobFett what happens when the old, fat, weak people get into contact with their family members coming in from the outside? Unless you are suggesting sending the weak fat people to special places?
@delonix regia I used more words, you used better words. He is from the country of yelling people, the more they yell, the more we pity them...
"It's not like our health minister is smarter than other health ministers"
Our health minister is a nutcase lol
And a massmurdere!
"Zero corruption in the government"? Are you absolutely sure that you are talking about Sweden?
"you're not flattening the curve, your shifting the curve"
All I hear from my sister is moan moan and whinge about having her kids at home all day and home schooling them. She won’t go out or let them go outside for a walk an hours walk because she’s so paranoid about it and she’s one of the very lucky ones who doesn’t have to work and her husband earns enough and is a key worker so they are losing an income.
Not so sure THAT is completely true. The MORE people that are treated during the first few months, will lesson the size of the spike later on. You're probably right that when the US "goes back to work" the number of cases MAY rise again. BUT the previous "batch" that have already been treated will not help pump up the numbers for the new one.
I quote my ICU physician friend in Gothenburg:
The health care system here in Sweden is totally overburdened now. The doctors and nurses are protesting, working overtime week after week, tired, desperate. 3,5 times more deaths here per capita than in Germany.
This was recorded mid-April, so to your point of your physician friend perhaps the cases have increased in the past 3 weeks?
@@LancsLass623 indeed. I was aware of the time sensitive nature of your recording. Still, i'm glad you recorded. Many folks think Sweden is doing nothing. Not true. I think even your Health Minister regretted not addressing your senior nursing homes sooner. It'll be interesting to see where all the numbers fall, say in a year. Best wishes.
Hi Evan. Wonderful videos you two put together on cool topics.
I was wondering, because of the current and projected climate in the u.s., if somebody moves to sweden as a working class guy (or pair) is 300,000 sek enough to get started with basic needs and find work, apartment, etc?
Im also a dual citizen, so i could just walk in there. Thx,
(Life is getting really scetchy here, especially CA)
I‘m living in Switzerland. We had a Lockdown in Switzerland, but now all opened again and people getting closer together again and spread the virus. They are not looking for each other, and they aren’t distancing anyone else like in sweden. I think we are in a similar situation like sweden with the death rates. But who knows, how many people got tested anywhere. In Switzerland only the worst cases of the virus were tested, so we cannot compare them with other countries. I hope that you are doing all well and stay safe. Lots of love 💕
Living In Saskatchewan Canada, they have closed so many businesses March 17 only essential business are operating with strict guidelines, social distancing , starting May 4 things are starting to reopen slowly, in 4 phases so we will not be fully open until later in the fall, all schools closed down. I agree with Sweden and which we would have had a choice. Our economy will take years to recover. Thank you for sharing your story.
Yup. Here in Ontario dealing with Ford’s bullshit.
So you agree that the old should just be left to die? That's what Sweden did....
I live i Norway. Just want to say. We Skandinavians have to stand by each other. 💛💙
YES
I second that. Stay safe, fellow Scandinavians! Greetings from an expatriated Swede living in Germany.
True! Stay safe brothers and sisters
The whole world must stand together
@@jozzzy8758 Yes, I dream that this will be a learning experience for humanity, we all need to come together for humanity, the earth and animals.
Hi from. Canada....Victoria,B.C....I. am in the elder group. ..we are doing well,but you glossed over the danger to us..We need to protect. others. not just ourselves! We are social distancing to. Keep others well.It sounds a bit like older people are not important enough...I am grateful to live in Canada......herd immunity may be myth..I hope it goes well as I have my dear grandson living in Sweden so I pray it goes well!
"We need to protect others not just ourselves" thank you.. this is the point anti lockdown people are not thinking of. My self as a person in the risk group need to thank you and others that feel the same as you. A great Hug from Portugal.
"Herd Immunity " IS a myth!!! For it to work, you need a minimum of 60%-70% of the population to have the antibodies that will resist the virus. Sweden will take a very long time to reach that mark and with the absolutely horrible mortality rate that they have ( 523 deaths/ million, as of 27th June 2020) and RISING!), they will end up with a massive death toll. Plus, you are NOT meant to get herd immunity by making 60-70% of your population sick! The only Swedes that are in favour of this are the ones that are still yet to lose family members or loved one! Totally selfish attitude
@@gregwilliamson3001 Utter shite you talk of, ignoring the facts like low flu years for two seasons on the trot in Sweden and people dying FROm their underlying health conditions but testing positive which is most like a false negative!
@@ynotnilknarf39 You're talking shite nobody dies of flu during summer months. Now it's winter Swedens at 7000 infections a day and 520 deaths per 100,000 people one of the highest in the world.
Greetings from the Philippines!
As of the moment, 2.7M are out of work in a country of 100M+.
Public transport is in disarray even as the economy starts to reopen.
People are dying in the streets not because of the virus, but because of heatstroke, or not being able to get home and not having a job. It is an absolute mess.
Meanwhile, politicians are pushing for a draconian new law to silence critics, dissenters, and protesters.
You are BLESSED!
I am a Minnesotan native, with a good part of Swedish blood. We generally do not get as close to others as others. So, it is a bit natural for us to keep some distance.
Sweden has taken a good holistic approach. They rely on their people to act wisely. I think find in the end they did the right thing. I support them.
Bob Mester totally agree!
Definitely agree!
Treat your people like children and they will most likely behave childish. Treat your people like adults and they would act like adults. Simple like that. :)
Sweden doesn't have Trump supporters so. They are much too educated to vote for a Trump.
The entire federal government has worked their asses off through this. It wouldn’t hurt to show a little gratitude rather than politics..
Thanks. This video seems to be more than a year old. In hindsight, September 2021, from what I know, I think Sweden has done very well, and is an inspiration. If I had to pin with a national flag, it would be Swedish. I'm not Swedish.
It is helpful to identify three types of patient behaviour and immunity.
a. Asymptomatic carriers develop negligible antibody titres that vanish within a fortnight.
b. Mildly symptomatic cases likely develop modes antibody titres that vanish within a month or two.
c. Severely symptomatic cases develop ample antibody titres that last up to six months but not likely to go on for a year.
That's very interesting can you provide references ? If this is true then it will have a big affect , I'm not sure what , but it won't be trivial .
@@robertlackey7212 I suspect i got COVID 19 in October 2019 which might be the precursor of the virus that later went VIRAL around the globe. I might be immune to some extent due to cross immunity if the virus I got hit with was a smaller cousin of SARS Cov 2
Reference : www.jwatch.org/fw116752/2020/06/21/covid-19-immune-response-among-asymptomatic-latino
One month after your video on COVID-19,, do you still feel the same? An update would appreciated.
I was about to write that. The numbers for Sweden as of 30-05-20 are dismal compared to all neighboring countries. Was the 4395 deaths (to this moment) worth going to restaurants. Self-isolation, social distancing is NOT difficult. It's been mildly inconvenient for me, but I'm one of the fortunate ones. Many have had their livelihood destroyed. I'd rather lose a business than a loved one.
@@originalsuki Are you a Swede? BBC Hard Talk did an interview w/ Tegnell and pushed him almost obnoxiously to get him to admit fault on Sweden's strategy. Tegnell referred to something like 70% approval of the lax shutdown policy amongst Swedes and basically said at this point we won't know whether their policy has proven better. He also acknowledged a concerning death rate that is largely attributed to the nursing homes, however. czcams.com/video/Biqq34aUJcQ/video.html
@@originalsuki I have also heard that here in Sweden we count everyone that died with the virus as a covid-19 death. So for example somoene with the Covid-19 get's hit by a car and dies to internal bleeding is a Covid-19 death as most contries do not count that as a covid-19 death. it's difficult to compare stastistic between countries when every country counts things differently.
@@SoberCorewin source?
As an answer to you all. The only way to know the truth of the covid damage, is to look at the average historical mortality at the same historical months and compare. Sweden has no such differences for now (mars was slightly higher and april slightly lower). Which means Sweden is doing relatively good actually.
I live in Sweden but have 2 daughters - in London and Johannesburg South Africa - so it's interesting to see different containment policies.
I would absolutely love Sweden's policy to work for the very reason that we will hopefully escape the worst of the inevitable economic fallout, which (don't fool yourselves) IS coming. We are a global community. Sweden does not stand alone.
In Sweden most of the reason we can operate a self-enforcement social distancing policy is because:
1) Swedish people are generally respectful and considerate of others (unlike in South Africa for example)
2) Some 50% of Swedes live alone, so self-isolation is a permanent state for many and involves few changes for a 'critical mass portion' of the population.
3) the elderly who most need help were already being supported on a spectrum of living situations and services (hem tjänst - home services, etc), so they are able to easily stay out of harms way. The infrastructure for that is 'normal practice'.
4) Sweden's healthcare system is phenomenal and people for the most part just have to call their local clinic & they will get help - often at home in the instance of 'boendestödgrupp'.
This all helps to keep the most frail out of harm's way.
However, Herd Immunity (whilst I hope it works in Sweden) would be tantamount to genocide or at best a human rights abuse in places such as Africa, any poor communities who have uneducated, undernourished or medically/immune challenged individuals with HIV AIDS, TB, Hepatitis, poor access to fresh water, high density living conditions, high density transport situations in 1st World big cities, etc.
My 28 year old, fit daughter got COVID-19 in London - probably commuting on the underground past Canary Wharf which had 1 reported case at the time. She was so ill with the fever that within 3 hours she couldn't have moved to speak let alone call an ambulance. She shot off a WhatsApp to me saying "Mom, I'm scared". I work 24 Hr shifts so only got back to her after that. Now, she is a strapping, strong Viking of a young woman, but at 28 she could very nearly have died within 3 hours of the fever hitting.
The fever came and went for 3 weeks. The tiredness from liver damage would knock her out for 6 hours a day. She continued to work at night and held onto her job from sheer force of will. She is better now and running short distances again, but...
DO NOT BE FOOLED YOUNG PEOPLE...
This is a killer virus. It CAN kill you.
You won't necessarily be immune afterwards.
Protect the people in the public.... just because you don't feel sick does not mean you aren't infecting other people in shops, on buses, in restaurants, pubs, just walking down the street FOR UP TO 3 DAYS AFTER you just so happened to touch something or cough.
ALL THE EVIDENCE shows:
- 2m social distancing isn't enough
- it hangs around in the air far longer than we think
- it is more virulent than we'd like to believe
- the after effects are severe and can take months to recover from or leave you PERMANENTLY with weak heart, lungs, liver, etc.
Swedes are putting themselves and their whole communities at risk. Just because you have 6 months of winter & it's nice outside is a selfish narcissistic way of thinking just to get together, have a grill, go to a pub, etc.
How did you spend Påsk? (Easter) I know many people who had a grill with family and friends and then went on to work in vård & omsorg (health and welfare) the next week. Then we wonder why 2-3 weeks after we get a spike in cases of COVID-19.…
NOT COOL, Swedes.....
Look after each other, strangers you will never meet included.
Thanks
Lorna Long Thank you for taking the time to write this this thorough, thoughtful, sensible comment. Well wishes to your recovering daughter.
The lockdown is only delaying the inevitable most people will get this, this is the new era of seasonal flus. The key is to have a solid immune system which no one is talking about, ha imagine that. #quitsmoking
Thank you Lady
Brigita Larsen
Thank you so much.
She is back to her old self, almost, 6 weeks after she contracted it.
I think she was very lucky - but she was very fit and healthy
Greetings from Johannesburg. My children are in Stolkholm.
This is the video that helped me calm down. I'm from England and I lived in Sweden since 2015. I was mad at Sweden, my family locked down in England etc.
This is the video that changed my mind completely. I started to wake up
Thank u for the real update... its not weather you are wrong or not you are reporting what’s happening... I’m in the US ...LA... we need adopt more Sweden ways blessings
I like south South Koreas approach.
Keep the elderly alive. Economy open and people with supplies.
Cant argue with a 0.9% death rate
Sweden has the highest Covid 19 death rate per capita on the entire planet, but they will argue anyway because they think they are always the best in healthcare.
In Coasta Rica- it’s extreme. Closed borders, driving restrictions, closed businesses, prohibited to go to the beach or swim or surf. Even in areas that are completely virus free. I completely agree with you, people will react in a frenzy to socialize after being shut away. Take precautions- let the healthy be on about there business. The poor here are suffering greatly from this.
adventuringgoddess thanks for posting. that’s sad to hear. We are looking to move there in a few years from SC. An Instagram post from Costa Rica said the police were helping the poor.
The Holistic Chick I’m not sure what is propoganda and what’s real there is a lot of false news that emphasizes what the giver wants people to think. The government has been distributing food to houses with kids in public school here. And a lot of grocery stores have a table where private citizens can buy and leave food for donation for those in need. I don’t know what devision of police where implicated in helping people or where in Coasta Rica. I only know of what’s going on in my area. And what I’ve seen is police fining people heavily for being at the beach, impounding vehicles or big fines for driving on days your not allowed or after curfew. In general the division of regular patrol police has been helpful. And the devision of traffic police has not. It’s complicated. Don’t let this detour you from moving here. But the socialistic and napolitanistic law system here is very complicated. It’s good to do a lot of research into the laws, and police system here, to make sure your prepared. :) hope this is helpful
The Holistic Chick I’m not sure what is propoganda and what’s real there is a lot of false news that emphasizes what the giver wants people to think. The government has been distributing food to houses with kids in public school here. And a lot of grocery stores have a table where private citizens can buy and leave food for donation for those in need. I don’t know what devision of police where implicated in helping people or where in Coasta Rica. I only know of what’s going on in my area. And what I’ve seen is police fining people heavily for being at the beach, impounding vehicles or big fines for driving on days your not allowed or after curfew. In general the division of regular patrol police has been helpful. And the devision of traffic police has not. It’s complicated. Don’t let this detour you from moving here. But the socialistic and napolitanistic law system here is very complicated. It’s good to do a lot of research into the laws, and police system here, to make sure your prepared. :) hope this is helpful
A lot of Central and South American countries are using COVID to show off power and abuse. I live in the USA now but I am from Cuba. Cuba is for sure exercising more control and fear towards their citizens.
adventuringgoddess thank you! That is helpful. We will be visiting in a few months and will be looking at Alegria Village in San Mateo. Costa Rica definitely markets itself differently than what you have told me. Thank you again 🙏🏻
How to find out which country not doing social distances; I tried to google it and not working
the clubs are open?
I live in japan and it's mostly still open. Corona is almost gone from the country. But people are diligent about masks and spraying alcohol on hands etc.
spraying alcohol on hands? What a waste!
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Japan or Japanese are very very disciplined and strong minded. For such a dense population they came out incredible well.
@@bundsta324 check google troll flaps
@@PhilVanDerPolz so true, i have teouble dealing with just a quarter of the life challenges they go through with resilience.
I lol'ed when you said there is no corruption. That was a good one.
Me too... wth
Compared to USA it’s practically none
@@secularsam7678 same for the population. Level of diversity and size of their government. It hard to compare the two. Sweden is tiny in comparison to the US. But to say their is "no" corruption is terribly naive.
Mike Franklin While there are of course differences that may make the US more prone to corruption it’s practically legal here. Might I add that lobbying is legal as well as donations from corporations to fund campaigns (not directly but through super pacs for corporations). Also I agree there is likely some corruption but the widespread scale in America is bad enough to foment distrust among the public towards the government while that is not the case in Sweden hence his original point.
@@secularsam7678 hence his point is terribly naive. You can wax poetically all you want about why. Doesn't mean anything in this argument. He said there was none. I believe he is wrong and naive. And you agree. Why is another argument. But I feel you don't really understand the heart of the founding. If you have a classic college education it's a certainty.
Totally agree with you guys
You mentioned about elderly people, but didn't mention about young families with babies. Babies also don't have immunity from covid and it will be very hard to overcome, but their parents should go outside to work or to buy some food and there is no social isolation and strict measures in your city and county, so those parents may infect their children
I extremely grateful that Sweden is doing this - this is the only way we’re going to get real data.
I agree try it.
You're grateful for a country treating their people as Guinea pigs? So kind of you ...
We'll get data from a cold country from Sweden, from a tropical country from Brazil, and from a country with multiple seasons from the US. We'll definitely have a lot of poor guinea pigs to examine... So good of their governments to volunteer them.
Hi, I'm from Portugal and we have managed the Virus also quite well as possible as it can be. We closed borders to Spain and later closed airports. We closed some areas of economy, etc...we are now coming back slowly, and for our country it has been working. Our rate has mantained flat. I agree completely whdn you say: each country has to look what works best and especially people must be disciplined like in Sweden. I was surprised with portuguese people how disciplined they have become. Our government also have been given the example so it's easier to trust and follow them. If you do research on Portugal you will havd a much better and valid information. If everuone follows the rules with responsibke behaviour than we can overcome this pandemic
Love Portugal - a pais mais bonito do mundo
Yep, tell me more, tell me more.... like the ZERO my city in Portugal, but i have lost already 2 people from my family ( 67 and 43 years old ) and 1 36 years old friend, and didn't even count to covid19 statistics...
Facts, please. Opinions are not uncommon. Great disclaimer, though.
FACT: He fucking lives there.
FACT: www.city-data.com/forum/unemployment/3146727-any-tips-getting-through-ca-edd.html
FACT: The initial projects of casualties for this pandemic were way off and actual numbers showed that it is indeed lower and will not rise much higher than that. thefederalist.com/2020/03/26/the-scientist-whose-doomsday-pandemic-model-predicted-armageddon-just-walked-back-the-apocalyptic-predictions/
COVID19 will be historically noted to be nothing differnet than a flu.
A few minutes in and they explained the relationship between government and people in Sweden and what measure the government recommended. We learn that schools, gyms etc. were closed.
Later they present death rates on charts etc.
Are those not facts?
@@J3unG that is your opinion
when people blink alot, it's a psychological reaction to pressure, intimidation ASSERTION and you can verify by noticing when he looks at her for approval and looking off to the right while speaking!
I live in New Zealand a country of 5 million, today we had 1 new case that was traceable. There have been 1489 cases of which 1332 have recovered, 21 deaths in total and currently 2 people in hospital . We have a great Prime Minister who said go hard and go early so we went into lockdown early for a month and closed the borders . We are slowly getting back to normal now. I feel lucky to live here.
Good for you guys! But you do realize that you need to keep your borders closed or quarantine everyone entering the country for the duration of this pandemic (or maybe even forever), right? It might last two years or more. When all other people of all other countries are immune, then first will you be safe to stop your isolation.
It's quite similar here in Australia, but on a bigger scale. We only got to level 3 lockdown, not level 4 like NZ, but it's gone on for 6 weeks so far, with restrictions easing in stages now.
Your PM is amazing and a lot of people here want her as our PM! 😆
Both of our countries have done well (though Aus was slower to act), and right now in my state, there are only 18 active cases. All the rest have recovered. There haven't been many deaths compared to some other countries, though even one death is one too many. ❤
@@annalundquist7247 quarantine and testing is required now and I think only NZ citizens are the people let in at the moment, but not 100% sure on that detail
Korea never went into full lockdown either, just one city. They just reacted quickly: the people, the authorities and even companies, they all took it seriously early on. I live in Seoul, which had direct flights with Wuhan and things are getting back to normal, we had less than 15 new cases today.
Meanwhile, my homeland Spain is 1 month under severe lockdown because they not only failed to do social distancing early on, but the Government was actually encouraging the people to join mass demonstrations in March 8th.People in Spain were making jokes and repeating it's the flu until it was too late and they had no other choice than locking down everybody. 21,000 deaths in Spain vs 200 deaths in Korea. That's the difference it makes a quick reaction.
the swedish government are manipulating the media trying to keep Sweden's people oblivious to this deadly disease it will be at their peril RIP Sweden
The Korean government and the scientists there are wise enough to be trusted. I cannot say the same about Sweden. It has the worse government I have ever heard about and the number of death in Sweden is extremely high compared to Germany or South Korea.
matthew sikora. Thank God that the our government is manipulating the media! There is only one true opinion and that is the word of our prime minister Steffe!
@@dux2508 Ha ha ha...I guess you have a very good sense of humor....I believe that is one way to look at it. I would,
however tell Steffe to find another job and find a better suitable man to deal with the Coronavirus crisis. He is definitely not seeing the seriousness of the death toll.
Thoughts and prayers to all in Spain from the UK. We are going through an awful time as well.
*LAUGHS IN ITALIAN*
I think heard immunity is common sense. I think the WHO wants to lock everyone away to create panic & worry and to STOP herd immunity, (as you said), so we can extend the virus until the VACCINE is ready and there is STILL an excuse to use it for everyone. The virus is a double-sided sword - The virus has also been a smokescreen to lock people up whilst they put up 5G towers everywhere. The side of the sword is to create a virus vaccine that has a nanoparticle of Silica that gets injected into everyone, silica doesn't break down and connects to the towers, so after the vaccines, everyone will be detected by the 5G towers. Where you are, where you've been will all be recorded. The silica molecule is too large, so they are looking to break it into a stack of circles one on top of the other and like a worm, that is small enough to get into the needle. This virus is NOT what everyone things. Before the virus, people were out protesting about 5G and burning down towers... NOW??? Nothing!!! The virus created a fear which worked & reactions that were exactly what they wanted.
@@donnapike827 no it's not common sense, it doesn't exist "herd immunity" because the coronavirus mutates all the time
@@lotussavage1283 There is partial immunity to new strains. The worse the infection, the better the immunity.
@Iba Iba Covid restrictions reduce the transmission of all diseases.
Its actually different compared to the Philippines. In the way things are run there. I live in Mjöbäck and its a remote place. Not so many people here. And in my country its a lot of people in one place.
Makes a lot if sense, the consideration of how long people can take lockdowns and developing immunity. Like the 40 mph analogy.
You assume the immunity.What is found is way less immunity in those that got it,And this immunity does not last.for many reasons.1 People get the flu again and again.2 the virus mutate.
@@leohobbleohobb3781 First, from what I read, your low immunity claims are false. Please post your sources for this, interested to compare. The early reports about recovered ppl still with the virus now seem to be dead viruses left in the body.
www.livescience.com/coronavirus-reinfections-were-false-positives.html
Also, studies show that the mutation is much slower then regular flu viruses. Which would result in much longer immunity.
www.livescience.com/coronavirus-mutation-rate.html
Third, if immunity wasn't an answer. What is the solution? To kill of the virus you would need several more month of hard lookdown. And if it didnt work, a new lookdown.
www.who.int/news-room/commentaries/detail/immunity-passports-in-the-context-of-covid-19 no one is saying is not answer what is say is a gamble we don't prove Di you want gamble the live of your love one I don't.
@@simonbergqvist The solution was very simple at 1st. We should have done what S. Korea did. Use standard epidemiology as soon as it was detected & act immediately. I think they avoided a generalised strict lock down, but had to lock down small districts of Seole when there were case clusters. Kept a good part of the economy going, & only approx 300 deaths in a population of 55 million. They won't have a second wave, as long as they keep vigilant & evryone coming in is strictly quarantined.They at the point of eradicating it from their country. They did it with SARS, but Covid19 is a lot more difficult. Taiwan has done well because a lot of Chinese fled into Taiwan trying to escape but took the virus with them. New Zealand likewise.
Contrast the UK "herd immunity" experiment - back to the middle ages method do absolutely nothing. UK (population 66.5 million). - excess deaths above the 5 year margin in 2020 - 50,000.= 37% excess. Source - Office of National Registry. That means that 50,000 people would still be alive TODAY if we didn't have Covid19.
I could tell you exactly how UK government manipulated the data to lower the deaths, but the mean age was too low - 63. So after most of the frail & elderly had succumbed they were added in, remining numbers did not increase the deaths much, but increased the mean age to 72. NOT included are those who died at home. I have heard from 3 different sources that they were denied hospital admission over the phone if they did not meet strict criteria, one of which was too hoarse or breathless to speak & they had to hear this through the phone!!! one denied admission was a nurse. This needs confirmation.
Yes, UK shall have a second wave, because yet again the government has taken no precautions whatsoever to protect the work force , but with the falsely high mean age & having reduced the true number of deaths by 50%. Deaths aren't low enough to reduce our "partial" lock down yet
We won't have another lock down. Their falsified figures will convince everyone that it's not practicable to crash the economy for those of low life expectancy. I predict that when lock down is lifted, deaths will continue at home. Simply deny admission to the over 60's. Maybe have a temporary shell separate from the rest of the hospital, with maybe 4-6 ICU beds. Staff with those who are naturally immune - plenty of them after PPE wasn't provided.
No one any the wiser.
What will happen? It will become endemic, always there, grumbling on, clusters from time to time & repeated smaller waves until we get a vaccine. You have all been so decieved by "herd immunity". In medicine the term is only used for the effect of high up take of a vaccine. No viral disease in history has ever "burned itself out". Small pox was highly contagious & with us for over 2,000years.
I would advise to talk to hospital workers. Greetings from one of the least affected area of Italy.
I'm a swedish living in Norway, and what you are talking about should be leaved to the experts. What way each country choose it is up to them. We've had a lockdown which worked out great in my point of view. How this will end should not be speculated on youtube..
Sick how we were hoodwinked. 99.8 percent recovery rate.
I live in Spain, all stores, restaurants, bars, etc are closed except for groceries and pharmacies. Everyone is required to remain at home, not allowed out other than to get food or go to a pharmacy. You can be fined if you go out without a good reason. It's a much tougher lockdown than USA or UK. It started on March 15 so it's been 6 weeks now and will continue until April 25, with likely extension until mid May. In regions of Spain where the infection rate is low, like Canary Islands, they're planning to relax the lockdown after April 25.
Larry Bxl the measures taken in the United States varies state by state. Some states have stay at home policies similar to Spain (e.g., New York, Maryland, and Virginia).
@@user-zl5qt9kn8q The head of the Canary Is govt has made an official request to the Spanish national govt to relax the lockdown here while maintaining restrictions on travel to/from the islands, due to the low infection rate, hospitalizations and deaths.
@@ACM1775 I think even in the most severe lockdowns in the US you're still allowed out to exercise, but that's not allowed here in Spain.
In Spain, many business continue running home-office mode, and even a few industrial activities categorized as "essential" still allow factory workers to attend assembly lines, taking all necessary self protection measurements.
The big penalty in Spain's economy will be on agriculture, and even more on tourism. And that one would go to hell with or without lockdown.
Who will be interested on coming here in two months (just for pleasure) after being top on the hit parade together with Belgium, Italy,...
Yess fine only in latin country😬😬wonder way
You said "Sweden does not want the economy to collapse" I think this is very wise and I really wish Sweden, as I wish it to the whole human society, that the economy wouldn't collapse... but when I think about all these extremely harsh measures put on our globalized economy in all these many countries where Sweden is just a tiny exception, I am really afraid, that there is a global collapse ahead... and there will be no country being spared out because we are living in a globalized economy... borders are only political borders. viruses and economical processes don't know borders.
You did a very good description! There is a danger of unemployment but the risk of falling sick is the same as it has been all the years before.
This video commentary space has become the playground for fascists.
Well I was going to let you know how it’s going here in the US but it’s just too embarrassing 😣😖😭
Huge difference, Sweden has free healthcare and their younger populations is much healthier than the US. Here in the states, health care is expensive and there are so many young people suffer from High Blood Pressure, Diabetes, Obesity, Asthma, are immune compromised by envirinmental pollution, etc. So you can't compare apples and oranges. Maybe of us had free healthcare and its citizens were in better health it would be a different story.
Another comment from someone who doesnt understand that USA HEALTH CARE WAS the best and doctors came from all around the world to train.
No PERSON could ever be refused treatment, it was freely available until REAGAN and his TRICKLE DOWN ECONOMIC PLAN and then OBAMA AND CORPORATE GREED GOT INVOLVED.
When we were a REPUBLIC, EVERYONE WANTED TO BE AMERICAN.
Then COMMUNISTS infiltrated the Left entirely, murdered JFK, and have darn near a foothold in the right.
And people like you cheer on Socialism when a REPUBLIC IS THE ONLY FORM OF GOVERNANCE that allows a free people and truly cares about the welfare of people.
We need to restore the Republic!
A SOCIALIST FREE HEALTHCARE offers sub par care! No GREAT DOCTOR wants to work for pennies after going to school for 16 yrs that his family PAID $500K FOR!
Maybe that's why Swedish people die like flies!? Compare their numbers with Norway and Denmark and stop crapping here please!
@@taunteratwill1787 What@!?.
Omg pathetic shill....
@@Shyeena It's always amusing to see that the people that does not know what they're talking about and don't even understand that they don't know what they're talking about always is the ones who gets all upset claiming other people doesn't know what they're talking about and that they most certainly do!
In Sweden we value education and it's every citizens right to be able to get a good education. We do not believe that schools should profit from the education they provide. In Sweden, to provide the education for one person, to study and become a doctor costs 129k us dollars.
If you would like to have a educated discussion about all that you wrote about based on facts, and not tweets from Trump, you are welcome to Sweden where you can afford a education for your self!
Power is not knowledge!
"Knowledge is power!"
Have a nice day Shieena!
@@Shyeena Wow! In 1981 I was in the US for 3 months. Talking to post grads and post docs I found out that they all had health care in their grants. When asked about the poor, unemployed or indigent getting medical treatment there were blank looks. No one knew who treated sick people from these groups. I would hope things have changed since then.
In my limited experience medical persons in the US are the same as all over the world - good ones and not so good ones.
In Norway the death toll has almost stopped now. It went up fairly fast in March but then has gone up very slowly since maybe the start of April. The cases were going up really fast in March. And at this point we have a lot of cities with no new cases in like a week and some towns that never had any cases. Oslo still has a few but its been at 8000 total +- cases for very long and we are not registering the ones that are healthy again. In late February and March we had very high numbers compared to a lot of big nations but then the country shut down and it really helped. It was very concerning when we were at like 4000 cases and at the top 3 in the world when it came to cases per capita. We had a lot of people coming back from their winter skiing trip holidays in Austria and Italy. This was mid to late february and we had like 1500 cases originating from mostly Austria, Kitzbühel. There is currently a lawsuit going on against that skiing place, some apparently knew about the virus spreading but was told to shut up. There has never been a total lockdown here but strong recommendations about only going out for a hike or going to get groceries, 2 meters distance, sanitizing, most places shut down, schools, kindergartens, gyms, saloons, bars, limited opening hours, strong recommendations to not take public transport, borders shut, etc. Norway has half the population of Sweden but we are now (May 29th) at 8425 cases and 226 deaths. Sweden at 36 476 cases and 4350 deaths. I don’t agree with the way Sweden has handled this. But we still don’t know what’s ahead of us so we don’t know for sure before probably the vaccine comes. They say now that very few people in Norway has had covid 19 and that the unknown numbers are not that high. So that makes it more deadly in percentage. I think thats whats said about Sweden too, that there is not that many unregistered cases as suspected, so only a small percentage has had the virus so far.