Rad Rover Power Upgrade Results - Must See

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  • čas přidán 6. 09. 2024

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  • @nathangreen3110
    @nathangreen3110 Před 4 lety +24

    I've been watching you for awhile, you give me hope! I'm disabled (poor). Ive been saving for 18 months, I have 1700.00 now. I only can afford rad rover. I have no tools and I'm not mechanically inclined, I was a cook before becoming disabled. Lol but I'm heavy, so I need upgrade, I'm going to but the new controller, with new screen, and show someone your videos and pay them to install it for me. I'm also buying the duel parallel battery connecter from Bolton, then save up and buy a 48v 20ah and run it parallel with the stock rad battery, then on long rides I'll have a battery approximately 48v 36ah! I know I'll need it because I'm out of shape, weak legs, diabetic, blood pressure bad, etc. So the throttle will be my best friend for awhile. Hopefully I can add some peddling when I get Healthier, I was 280 I'm now down to 257 from walking my dog. Your videos are great and a true source of ebike knowledge.

    • @CRCfail
      @CRCfail Před 3 lety +1

      Jesus dude.

    • @SuperWilliamholmes
      @SuperWilliamholmes Před 3 lety

      I'm 350 lbs and the Rad Rover 5 works fine for me just stock.

    • @burtpanzer
      @burtpanzer Před 3 lety +4

      When saving SSI, don't accumulate funds within the bank or they may assume you don't need it and take it back... just so you know.

    • @garrettromer8499
      @garrettromer8499 Před 3 lety +1

      Get the step thru dude it's awesome. Pedal assist 3 lower gear u don't even feel like ur pedaling. Bike does all the work.

  • @catspaw3815
    @catspaw3815 Před 4 lety +26

    Nothing like a big ole helping of scientific method. Thanks CC Rider...this will be useful to countless Radders!

    • @catspaw3815
      @catspaw3815 Před 4 lety

      if you haven't seen this yet, Manseau put hydraulics on his bike - czcams.com/video/OVAXf4Kbr74/video.html

    • @catspaw3815
      @catspaw3815 Před 4 lety

      this may be useful too - czcams.com/video/R5nsSIlhnms/video.html

    • @rubbertwain
      @rubbertwain Před 4 lety

      @@catspaw3815 I don't know man, I bet those Radrovers are persnickety performers at best, and probably no fun at all. I'd rather sit home and pack sand, myself. Looks like if you sneezed the thing would fall apart. ;-) Have you got it yet?

  • @williamsaloka9043
    @williamsaloka9043 Před 4 lety +41

    I'm going for the controller and the motor.. Excellent research and very good work!! Not bad for a "regular guy on the YOU-TUBE"!!

    • @CitizenCycle925
      @CitizenCycle925  Před 4 lety +4

      Much appreciated!

    • @LetArtsLive
      @LetArtsLive Před 4 lety +2

      @@CitizenCycle925 what if your on a trip and it starts down pouring should you pull over and cover it and wait? Is there a way to waterproof and ebike? From what I've seen they are water resistant which is pretty scary if the motor burns up and it cost so much. I think I'm going to wax mine. I guess it couldn't hurt my grandfather always waxed is Studebaker and it lasted forever

    • @kwangaroo
      @kwangaroo Před 4 lety +1

      @@LetArtsLive I carry a zip lock bag to cover the controller screen but I've ridden through rain without issues.

    • @banksarenotyourfriends
      @banksarenotyourfriends Před 4 lety +1

      @@LetArtsLive my Rad bike regularly gets a soaking, just don't submerge the electrics and make sure to let the bike dry out completely the next day.

    • @johnnya568
      @johnnya568 Před 2 lety

      @@CitizenCycle925 what your settings for ? also did you make a video showing your settings?

  • @jacden70
    @jacden70 Před 3 lety +19

    CitizenCycle, you have created one of the most informative, accurate, and relevant ebike videos available anywhere. Super job!

    • @CitizenCycle925
      @CitizenCycle925  Před 3 lety +4

      Far to kind! Flattery will get you everywhere my friend 😁

    • @darkfocust2467
      @darkfocust2467 Před 3 lety +1

      @@CitizenCycle925 the 35 amp controller you have on your website can be paired with a bafang 750w kit right? at that point doesnt have to do with rad anymore?

    • @CitizenCycle925
      @CitizenCycle925  Před 3 lety +1

      @@darkfocust2467 That is the way I understand it but I am not an expert.

  • @freetoroam6606
    @freetoroam6606 Před 3 lety +6

    FINALLY!!! Someone who knows how to make a good comparison video. This answers every question I have except one (steep grade climb). After watching this you saved me lots of $$$. I think I’ll just go with the controller upgrade for now. If that doesn’t give me what I need for the steep grades I have where I live then I’ll try the motor. Don’t see a need for the others (unless I need more range later). Thanks for doing this and please keep ‘em coming.

  • @holdencommodore2200
    @holdencommodore2200 Před 4 lety +6

    Awesome thumbnail and awesome video!! I ordered the controller and the motor. Just counting down the days before it arrives on my doorstep! I'll probably buy an extra 48v battery and mount it on the rear rack for longer range. Thank you for the tutorials and the performance updates!

    • @gguthary1
      @gguthary1 Před 4 lety +5

      I just finished my motor upgrade. Pro tip: order a new freewheel instead of trying to swap the stock one to the new motor. Removing the freewheel from the old motor is almost impossible because they torque it down to insane tightness at the factory. This is the one I ordered: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00JVK7OPO

    • @CitizenCycle925
      @CitizenCycle925  Před 4 lety +3

      yes, not having to remove the old freewheel was a huge plus!

    • @CitizenCycle925
      @CitizenCycle925  Před 4 lety +2

      finally, a comment on the thumbnail!!!! thank you! i was going for a hilariously unrefined look, i was laughing as i uploaded hahaha :) good luck with your upgrades.

  • @dantepastrano3028
    @dantepastrano3028 Před 4 lety +14

    My name is Dante Pastrano, a Krav Maga instructor and a IPMBA (International Police Mountain Bike Association) certified Security Cyclist. I own a 2018 Rad Rover. I enjoy watching your videos because of your unbiased and honest opinions and comments. I have some accessories installed for patrolling purpose. I did upgrade the brakes to hydraulic, with a Zurich set with 4piston caliper and a thicker 180 mm rotors.
    I couldn’t be happier, not only for the performance improvement, but the knowledge I gained by doing it myself. But again, this is about you being a good source of inspiration. By the way, I am waiting for the controller upgrade i ordered through Bolton Bikes and just recently ordered the 750watts motor from ElectroBikesWorld. I will ordered the 52v battery as well. Like you, I don’t like the idea of installing a battery using Velcro or any straps. Thanks again for all your hard work, I truly appreciate you!!

    • @CitizenCycle925
      @CitizenCycle925  Před 4 lety +2

      yes!! awesome comment :) glad i could inspire a little. that is one goal of my channel, inspire others in some way. thank you for the kind words :) I am really thinking about doing the brake upgrade. i didn't want hydraulic because i like the simplicity of cable brakes; however, my brakes feel very underpowered and they are not smooth, rotors are bent. i think you will be happy with your upgrades, i know i am pleased with mine, it is like a totally different bike now. Soon no criminals will be able to escape you !! :)

    • @dantepastrano3028
      @dantepastrano3028 Před 4 lety

      CitizenCycle Actually, I am a civilian, not a law enforcement person, however I teach Krav Maga (Israelis self defense ) to cops and I’m a co-developer of Krav Maga on Bicycle. Hence, an IPMBA member and guest instructor. I co-own Krav Maga Minneapolis, LLC. KravMagaMpls.com. We are parr of the IKMF family. International Krav Maga Federation based in Israel. We are actually working on adapting the program to the eBikes. About upgrading to hydraulics, I research CZcamss videos and selected the Zurich but the Tektro would have been a good choice too. I have not prior experience whatsoever with any type of bikes brakes, but I was getting tired of adjusting the mechanical brakes from factory. At one point I replaced then with another mechanical brakes and wasted my time and money. I learned how to install and bleed the HD brakes; They are awesome. I will send you some pictures of my bike if you’d like to see it.

    • @CitizenCycle925
      @CitizenCycle925  Před 4 lety

      @@dantepastrano3028 does the brake upgrade retain the motor cutoff cables?

    • @dantepastrano3028
      @dantepastrano3028 Před 4 lety +1

      CitizenCycle Excellent question! I was seconds away from disaster when all of the sudden the light bulb click on. The factory cutoff cable of the RadRover is standard; I used the ones from the RadRover to replace the one that came with the Zurich. I ordered the Zurich with the wrong connector, so I was about to cut the connector from the RadRover original Tektro, luckily I realized that the cutoff portion that attach the lever is a magnet an it was exactly the same size as the new one. So I just swapped them. Believe me, you will only regret not having done it before! The Difference is amazing and not having to adjust them that often, is priceless to me.

  • @paulrybarczyk5013
    @paulrybarczyk5013 Před 4 lety +12

    This weekend, I installed the same Bolton controller in my 2019 RadRover. Much better acceleration as expected, but it tops out at 25MPH and I can feel and see the watts being tapered as that speed threshold is hit. Much like the stock controller did. I see your controller continues to delivers higher watts even past 25 MPH. I'm going to try mirroring your settings to see what that does. It feels like it should be able to go faster. Thanks for the great videos!

    • @marcobarone8848
      @marcobarone8848 Před 3 lety

      Did it work?

    • @paulrybarczyk5013
      @paulrybarczyk5013 Před 3 lety +1

      @@marcobarone8848 With the stock Rad motor, my new controller still seems to limit power above 26MPH or so. But it gets me to that speed much quicker, and goes up hills much better.

    • @devilmikey00
      @devilmikey00 Před 2 lety +1

      I believe his is a 2018 rad rover so it might be that his stock motor is slightly different than a 2019 rad rover. I have the same 2019 model and ran into the same problem after controller upgrade. You can feel the bike being limited somewhere once you hit around 25 MPH. From what I understand the 2019 models have a limiter built into the motor itself so unless you switch the stock motor out you will continue to artificially limited.
      It's kind of lame but whatever. I only really notice it on downhills where I can feel the motor ramping down hard when I hit 25 very quickly thanks to the decline. I'll have to do a motor swap one of these days when I have the spare cash.
      Edit: I have now swapped the motor, my suspicions were right that rad motors on the 2019 were throttling. My top speed went up to around 31-32MPH after the swap vs 23-25MPH before. No way it's because the new motor is that much more powerful, it's just not being artificially limited. It's kind of annoying of rad to make me have to spend hundreds of dollars to get around their stupid invisible limits.

  • @xlntmike
    @xlntmike Před 3 lety

    So Mr. CitizenCycle, I have the same exact bike in So Ca. I don't mean a similar Rad Rover, I mean I have taken you advise and replicated your bike over here. I am so glad to have found your videos, it was the most comprehensive and informative. Thank you for all the referrals from where to by and what you paid. All the vendors have worked out well and couldn't be happier. So if you find yourself roving in So Cal, and see your same bike, trust me it is a result of your awesome videos. Thanks again!

    • @CitizenCycle925
      @CitizenCycle925  Před 3 lety +1

      haha, well thank you for the kind words. i'm glad the videos were helpful and that the upgrades worked out for you. i have more upgrades coming to the rad :)

  • @juangulrud2420
    @juangulrud2420 Před 4 lety +9

    Ive been counting the days for this video

  • @RobertBeriault753
    @RobertBeriault753 Před 2 lety +1

    This is a well-done video. Well planned and well executed. And for me, very useful. I'll start with replacing the controller instead of going whole hog with the motor. Many thanks for having done this for us.

  • @gunther1955
    @gunther1955 Před 4 lety +1

    Did the controller upgrade on my 2017 radrover and agree it's worth it. I do 30+ mile rides in lots of big hills. They claim 20 miles at 20 mph on the flat. Cannot confirm cuz never seen what 20 miles of flat looks like. I've done roundtrip from Norway to Bethel Maine (49 miles) on one battery. Was doing battery anxiety cuz the BBQs bars and strip clubs have I would normally charge up on my travels have been closed. Bought 2nd battery for last hills to my house cuz Tommy doesn't push 80 lbs up hill. Wish I'd known about the 52V 17.5 ah battery cuz rad stock (2017) is 11.5 amp hours. I could problably do 60-70 mi with that rig. Trying to burn up my stock motor so I'll have to upgrade to the bigger 750 watt motor. Perfect rig for those of us who used to be pushing 65 are but are now pulling. Very useful series of videos for the radrivers of the world. Kyle at Bolton better be making a bunch of controllers cuz I think the demand will be going up. Also should stock up on those motors. I'll be adding the hydraulic brakes next. I finally replaced my pads after 1400 miles and was pleased to see that having brakes that stopped you is nice.

    • @CitizenCycle925
      @CitizenCycle925  Před 4 lety

      thanks for the comment Tom! you are really pushing that bike!! certainly much harder than i am, i just cruise around town most of the time and its all flat. i like your charging locations hahaha! :)

  • @dennisdunbar2340
    @dennisdunbar2340 Před 4 lety +2

    Time to upgrade to dual motor. You have all the parts. Thanks for the awesome videos

  • @CraigNiel
    @CraigNiel Před 3 lety +2

    It seems to me the best cost to power increase ratio is to only upgrade the controller. The hill climb power was significantly increased just by upgrading the controller. It was increased adding the motor and battery too, but not by a lot. If you want better top end speed then the new motor and battery is a must but for me, hill climb power is more desirable than top speed as 24mph is plenty fast enough for me and anything above that really isn't much fun on a an ebike. Love the vids, you just found a new subscriber!

  • @jockspice
    @jockspice Před 3 lety +1

    As someone who has just taken the plunge with a RadRhino (EU Rover), I'm very happy to see that upgrades are definitely a thing. Thanks for all your videos, they are very informative.

  • @SMG-lz1zq
    @SMG-lz1zq Před 4 lety +6

    I want to first thank you for all the work you put in to do this! That also goes for the work you put in to make the videos too. I can't imagine how much work that is. Great results! Good news; My Radrover is coming on Tuesday (07/21/20)! I'm super excited!.

    • @MindScienceAlchemy
      @MindScienceAlchemy Před 4 lety

      My Rover is arriving in Charleston SC this Tuesday. I'm sure you're as pumped as I am 🚴‍♂️👍

    • @SMG-lz1zq
      @SMG-lz1zq Před 4 lety

      @@MindScienceAlchemy I wonder if it's coming from the same truck?

    • @CitizenCycle925
      @CitizenCycle925  Před 4 lety +1

      thank you SMG 2040. the editing was quite tedious, i love the riding and filming though, i like to create and doing this channel help feed that need. enjoy your bike!

    • @MindScienceAlchemy
      @MindScienceAlchemy Před 4 lety

      @@SMG-lz1zq mine is in Maggy Valley NC right now.
      Here's the tracking:
      Sunday , 7/19/2020
      3:22 pm
      MAGGIE VALLEY, NC
      In transit
      2:20 am
      FULTON, MO
      In transit
      Saturday , 7/18/2020
      1:19 pm
      SIDNEY, NE
      In transit
      1:18 am
      BRIGHAM CITY, UT
      In transit
      Friday , 7/17/2020
      12:12 pm
      TROUTDALE, OR
      Departed FedEx location
      2:36 am
      TROUTDALE, OR
      Arrived at FedEx location
      Thursday , 7/16/2020
      8:18 pm
      TACOMA, WA
      Left FedEx origin facility
      2:27 pm
      TACOMA, WA
      Arrived at FedEx location

    • @SMG-lz1zq
      @SMG-lz1zq Před 4 lety

      @@MindScienceAlchemy They're close!

  • @pedromaze1555
    @pedromaze1555 Před 4 lety +2

    He always say I'm not a professional videographer. But he seems to do an awesome video. Love it as always.

  • @mythrusthelema
    @mythrusthelema Před 4 lety +1

    Excellent! I have watched the entire process, you have done a journeyman job. I don't have a rad bike but watching you has given me more confidence in modding my bike. I look forward to seeing more. 👍👏👏👏👏

  • @jrperes2021
    @jrperes2021 Před 4 lety +2

    You are such a positive for the E bike world! Thank you!

  • @pandkee
    @pandkee Před 4 lety +5

    nice piece of information and testing. it's appreciated and i realize that you've spent a lot of time so we can learn about what you've done, thanks much!!

    • @CitizenCycle925
      @CitizenCycle925  Před 4 lety

      Just trying to add some useful information to the CZcams world 🙂

  • @CV-dl3hj
    @CV-dl3hj Před 4 lety +49

    Only one way to improve this video is to eat buttered popcorn while watching.

    • @CitizenCycle925
      @CitizenCycle925  Před 4 lety +1

      Hahaha nice!

    • @gerardlewis3098
      @gerardlewis3098 Před 4 lety

      Hey could you post your settings on your controller upgrade? I have a mini, 52v battery and 35 amp bolton controller that will not run.

    • @CV-dl3hj
      @CV-dl3hj Před 4 lety +1

      @@gerardlewis3098 you might have to post that question in the main comments. He may not see this since it's under mine.

  • @robertwilson6515
    @robertwilson6515 Před rokem

    That was very uplifting for me because I'm just in the stage of trying to figure out what to upgrade on my 20in fat tire bike.

  • @pavelshchurov2105
    @pavelshchurov2105 Před 2 lety

    Thanx
    Simply the best e-bike upgrade video in the whole CZcams

  • @sekaf4125
    @sekaf4125 Před 4 lety +3

    Outstanding!!! Excellent well done. Was really looking forward to your thoughts

    • @CitizenCycle925
      @CitizenCycle925  Před 4 lety

      thanks for the kind words Keith! hope it was helpful

    • @SantaCruzLocal
      @SantaCruzLocal Před 3 lety

      Great videos , awesome info . Thank you for all of it . My question is I’m more looking for power and range not so much higher top speed. I’m wondering if the controller upgrade and battery upgrade would do it .. not so stoked about pulling off the back tire , ripping out the stock motor and fitting the new Motor back in and making that backend work ..

  • @robertfranks4209
    @robertfranks4209 Před 4 lety +3

    I have the control on my rad rover and next month new motor. Thanks for the videos grate job.

  • @d0xiiee
    @d0xiiee Před 2 lety

    planning on converting my old bike into an awd mongoose monstah! its an old bike ive had since i was younger (maybe around 5 yrs old) im 18 now. rlly coo vid n highly detailed which was perfect. subbed

  • @devilmikey00
    @devilmikey00 Před rokem

    As someone with a 2019 rad rover who upgraded the controller and the motor a year apart these results line up with mine. I weigh quite a bit more than the person in the video so my speeds are going to be a little lower than seen here.
    So, just the controller upgrade is HUGE. Top speed was 23 MPH which was better than the 20 MPH I was getting at stock but the 2019 rad's have a limiter built directly into the motor so I was still getting throttled here. Not that it mattered because the amount of extra torque and hill climb was nuts. I could now accelerate through hills instead of inching up them while losing speed (lucky to maintain 10MPH before) and getting up to top speed takes half the time. Makes the bike feel so much more powerful even if the default rad motor was capping my top speed.
    I installed the new motor this year and my top speed is now 31MPH which tells you how hard the default rad motor was holding back. I don't suspect the default motor is actually that much worse if it was allowed to just do it's thing but whatever, I'm sure rad has it's reasons. Not much else besides top speed changed though. Doesn't feel like I gained any torque, I just have more room to breath before I cap out on speed. It is nice being able to stay with traffic in a city though, there is a noticeable lack of tension on the roads now. Before a lot of cars would ride my ass or make some pretty dangerous passes to get around me. Not as much anymore so maybe consider the motor/controller combo a road safety upgrade if you live in a city.
    I'll grab the battery eventually but I don't suspect it will offer much extra and it's super expensive. I'll buy it when my current battery bites the dust but I'm not rushing out to buy for it for performance. There just isn't enough of a difference between 48v/52v to do anything but get me to like 32MPH with my fat ass riding it if it only got the person in this video a couple extra MPH.

  • @tweegster-canadianbrickcaf1011

    I subbed after I picked up a rad wagon 3 used off Facebook marketplace with front/back baskets with front/back cooler bags so I can use delivery apps like uber/skip/dash to pay for my bike. With the cost of a 1 bedroom apartment in Vancouver BC Canada exceeding $2600/month Canadian I think an ebike is a great investment. Now to find a way to make it and me more visible at night with el lights

  • @paulaj2829
    @paulaj2829 Před 10 měsíci

    Brilliant video & commentary again.. you always tell it as it is & always make me feel good about whatever you have done to your bike.

  • @Criptor93
    @Criptor93 Před 4 lety +5

    Great comparison video, I have the 2019 rover and I'm waiting on the controller upgrade from Bolton. Been waiting over 2 months now but like you said...so gonna be worth it...maybe ill do the motor and battery upgrade as well...digging the same battery look..i prefer that as well over the triangle battery. Keep the vids coming!!!

    • @Ematuresco
      @Ematuresco Před 3 lety

      did you get it, how s the difference uphill ?

  • @jamo9000
    @jamo9000 Před 4 lety +1

    Great Video! Very enjoyable to watch. I agree next step is dual motor/dual battery 😄. You pretty much have all the parts required too.

    • @CitizenCycle925
      @CitizenCycle925  Před 4 lety

      glad you enjoyed the video! we will see whats next, probably brakes is the smart thing.

  • @racerx2095
    @racerx2095 Před 4 lety +1

    I'm pretty sure you have the fastest Rad Rover I've seen 💯👍👍😁

  • @berrymucuckiner4890
    @berrymucuckiner4890 Před 3 lety +2

    The controller alone creates the most substantial gains.

  • @Shadow-jo5yf
    @Shadow-jo5yf Před 4 lety

    Here I am no expert either, bambuzled by all the tech info which actually prevents me from buying one of these bikes. There you are an ordinary Joe soap sharing your experience and your on the bike knowledge, wow I am impressed, you picked a great interest a great hobby? I am delighted you shared this, love what you have done with the bike, many many happy miles of cycling ahead for you, Cheers Dude👍

  • @Yanmarman1
    @Yanmarman1 Před 4 lety +1

    Thanks for the video. Was waiting for it. I thought you would've got 40 with the battery upgrade. Acceleration to me is more important. Good job. Love watching your stuff.

  • @middleburyastrology
    @middleburyastrology Před rokem

    Most informative video online on this topic. Thanks so much for being so clear and detail oriented.

  • @rustwrangler5506
    @rustwrangler5506 Před 4 lety +1

    Best Rad Rover post upgrade testing on the internet. Thanks for your time and efforts!! So, who has a used Rad Rover for sale?

    • @CitizenCycle925
      @CitizenCycle925  Před 4 lety

      Thank you so much. I really appreciate that comment!

    • @davidpiacenza9033
      @davidpiacenza9033 Před 3 lety

      i do, 2019, 400 mi, never dumped, really cant ride it anymore, two knee reps, hip reps, back has to be fuzed, ill look back here in couple days.glou. mass.

  • @shakyhandpictures2185
    @shakyhandpictures2185 Před 2 lety

    Wow, I’ve watched several of your videos man, outstanding.
    Just completed a year on my bike, full time, this weekend, now looking for a electric bike, you’ve helped make a confusing decision a tad easier!
    Cheers from Canada brother!

  • @timdog740
    @timdog740 Před 4 lety +4

    Love ya videos I watch all of ya videos ! I’m waitin on my ravrover5 to come to nyc , I got so much accessories for it already plus I ordered my controller now I’m goin to order the motor an call it quits 👍🏾

    • @geezersgarage8181
      @geezersgarage8181 Před 4 lety +3

      HAHAHA, Call it quits, he says, HAHAHHAH....

    • @catspaw3815
      @catspaw3815 Před 4 lety +2

      @@geezersgarage8181 lol

    • @CitizenCycle925
      @CitizenCycle925  Před 4 lety +1

      thanks Timothy, good luck with the mods, do you see a lot of ebikes in NYC?

    • @timdog740
      @timdog740 Před 4 lety +1

      CitizenCycle yeah thy have a lot for Food delivery but thy plain in all black an the old big big square battery... nyc now getting up on the radpower bikes we have a few on the streets already ..

  • @axelfroment4871
    @axelfroment4871 Před 4 lety +2

    Thank you for all those excellents informations, I’ll definitely go with the new controller.

  • @brandonmanley4548
    @brandonmanley4548 Před 4 lety

    Hey well done. I got mine a couple of weeks ago. I already put on 200 miles. Great info.

  • @davidhoerl1681
    @davidhoerl1681 Před 3 lety

    Best CZcamsr on the internet....solid video.

  • @MumfordJim
    @MumfordJim Před 4 lety

    1st I want to compliment you for all the good information in this and all of your videos.
    One thing people should consider with a EBike is total weight. Your Bike even with the battery removed could cause some issues.
    This is very important when you are putting your bike on a car rack or a repair stand. First you will need to lift your Ebike onto them. Also they have a max weight limit that you should not exceed.
    I believe my car rack is limited to 75 pounds per bike and it is a heavy duty Ebike specific car rack. Regular car bike racks are limited to 50 pounds or less. Yesterday at my local bike shop I saw an Ebike one that was limited to 60 pounds (do not think it would handle a Rad Rover).
    My repair rack is limited to 80 pounds and again this is a repair stand I specify purchased to handle my ebikes, regular (home) bike repair stands handle no more than 50 pounds.
    You should remove the battery and anything that can reduce the weight, but be aware that weight can be an issue when transporting and repairing an Ebike. So be aware of the weight.

    • @CitizenCycle925
      @CitizenCycle925  Před 4 lety

      Wow I never knew bike carriers were so weak. most e-bikes weigh over 60 pounds. I have a truck so not an issue for me but good information thanks!!

  • @15205golfer
    @15205golfer Před 3 lety

    Wow! The controller upgrade alone seems awesome!

  • @iangordonellis1680
    @iangordonellis1680 Před 2 lety +1

    Nice one man grey stuff been watching all your videos given me loads of ideas for my own fat bike I'm always trying to get more speed more power out of it it's just supergreat no fumes no noisy engine I love ebiking but so expensive.😉👍

  • @davids.2910
    @davids.2910 Před 4 lety

    Great video! Very informative, thanks for sharing. I've done the Controller upgrade, purchased the new motor and will not be upgrading the battery. Your tests here just solidified that decision. Once again, thanks for all your videos... they are great!

  • @1gr8oil
    @1gr8oil Před 4 lety

    Thanks for sharing all your video's. I know it must take a lt of time and efforts to not only figure out what to show, but also all the time it takes to video, and then edit everything to get the video to come out good! I have the Radrover E-bike, and I simply LOVE riding it! Mine is totally stock!

    • @CitizenCycle925
      @CitizenCycle925  Před 4 lety

      Yes, it certainly takes a lot of time but I enjoy doing it 🙂

  • @rogerf3622
    @rogerf3622 Před 4 lety

    Great video. Thx! Your testing analogy was perfect. After you recover from the battery finance hit, yes on the brakes.

  • @Celestialrob
    @Celestialrob Před 4 lety +1

    Thanks so much. My bike is supposed to arrive in. July. Can’t wait.

  • @davefribush5992
    @davefribush5992 Před rokem

    This video is awesome! So helpful. Really really appreciate all the time and effort you put into this.

  • @flickthenick
    @flickthenick Před 3 lety

    Hi from the UK with my 2015 Radrover (circa 1650 miles to date). Best upgrade so far has been to fit hydraulic brake callipers (Zoom). Next is a DC to DC (12v) converter to upgrade the front light and to widen my choice of what to put on. 32mm front forks are on order, the standard fit are very cheap and have had it. Really interested in the 35A controller and will look into this - all very not allowed here... Thanks so much for the reviews!

  • @Funcentric
    @Funcentric Před rokem

    Thank for the video. Good value information. Theoretically, you may get higher speeds with your 52v battery on the older lower watt motor b/c then you'd be overvolting and running it at higher RPM's compared to the 750w also on 52v. With higher RPMS on an overvolted smaller motor with higher voltage, you'd be stressing the motor a lot more and risking it burning up. So I'm not suggesting that you should've done that, but for some crazy power, I'm pretty sure an overvolted 500w motor would run quicker than a non overvolted 750w motor.

  • @samueldiaz3768
    @samueldiaz3768 Před 4 lety +2

    Might wanna look into cable actuated hydraulic disc breaks. Its cost effective and alot easier since you don't have to change the breaking system to do it.

    • @michealmalik1037
      @michealmalik1037 Před 4 lety +3

      Absolutely, I upgraded my brakes to Clarks M2 much better performance than the mech system the bikes ship with. I recommend semi metallic or sintered pads not the crappy organic pads which wear out too quick. ✌️

  • @yupsure
    @yupsure Před 4 lety +5

    That thumbnail though 🤣👍👍

    • @CitizenCycle925
      @CitizenCycle925  Před 4 lety +2

      i was laughing as i uploaded, i wanted the cheesiest photoshop fail look that i could get, how can you not click that hahahahah!

  • @MrTimmmers
    @MrTimmmers Před 3 lety

    not a videographer? Best videos I've seen done in a while. The noise is way less on that new motor, it's not working as hard by the sound of it. Two questions I get every time I park my bike, top speed and range? About what ranges did the mods get you?

  • @timsanchez2860
    @timsanchez2860 Před 4 lety

    Badass ... I’ve got a 2019 with the same upgrades minus the battery ... dig your videos and BTw you might have the best audio on CZcams ... so many can’t figure out the audio for good reviews

    • @CitizenCycle925
      @CitizenCycle925  Před 4 lety

      Well thank you! 😁 I really try to get nice sounding audio, sometimes it's hard avoiding wind noise though, I'm still fine-tuning with my external mic.

  • @MrNAMASTE1968
    @MrNAMASTE1968 Před rokem

    Awesome video!! Planning to upgrade my ecotric fat tire, and I've been catching sales here and there, which definitely cuts costs.

  • @davidlynas7768
    @davidlynas7768 Před 2 lety

    Very useful. Controller already ordered. Love your videos.

  • @charlescox7672
    @charlescox7672 Před 4 lety +1

    This has been so very informative and I thank you for taking the time to do the upgrades and for taking us along for the ride :) - I think if I do the upgrading, I'll go the same route you did, with the controller first, and then the motor. I feel pretty sure that I will go ahead and get the upgraded battery as well, because I have a thing about range, and wanting to get as much as possible. At the moment, with all stock parts, I'm looking at approximately a 40 mile range (I've only done 21 miles and gotten the stock battery down to about 50%), but know that with more top speed and torque, the battery won't last nearly as long. Still 'breaking in' the Bikeroo seat, and can only get about 12 miles before my butt goes numb :-P

    • @CitizenCycle925
      @CitizenCycle925  Před 4 lety +1

      good luck with future mods. i havent tested range yet, honestly, range tests are my least favorite thing to do haha, i don't really care about range, i am only riding 5-15 miles at a time. maybe look at suspension seat posts...numerous people have told me they are great, i may add one.

  • @bobbyGnOly
    @bobbyGnOly Před 3 lety

    really enjoy the way you explain things....very down to earth...and so easy to follow...thanks.

  • @RinoGroenenberg
    @RinoGroenenberg Před 3 lety

    Awesome Bruh... Just got my RAD bike this month... will upgrade it step by step.

  • @Stormsteed
    @Stormsteed Před 3 lety

    This is serious speed and acceleration. Road rash at any speed sucks, but as the bike’s performance becomes more of a motorbike, I think it’s important to remember personal safety equipment.

  • @alexsharp9726
    @alexsharp9726 Před 2 lety

    underrated video, I just got two Rad Rover 6 for myself and my girlfriend and was looking for modding possibilities... this answers all my questions! Thanks! Shame the bolton controller is gone :( but I assume other brands work similar in spec.

  • @thedude3160
    @thedude3160 Před 4 lety +1

    Great informative video my man. Keep on keeping on. 👍

  • @howieg6998
    @howieg6998 Před 4 lety

    Nice video, thanks for all of your hard work and testing....you sir are an influencer, because of you I purchased the controller (ordered in May, still waiting to receive), making the purchase for the motor later...maybe.

  • @georgecostanza2695
    @georgecostanza2695 Před 2 lety

    Tks for sharing your experience!

  • @deagle50ae
    @deagle50ae Před 4 lety +1

    You have a really great energy on screen :)

  • @chomparelli
    @chomparelli Před 4 lety

    Great video. Thanks! I'm considering my first e-bike and the Rad Rover 5 looks like a good starting point. I will ride it stock at first, but look to get the 35 amp controller for sure. That seems like the #1 upgrade.

  • @johnmorgan3826
    @johnmorgan3826 Před 4 lety

    Its a Radical Rover now waiting for my mini I ordered get it in September. Ty for the info GJ

    • @lzlKiDlzl
      @lzlKiDlzl Před 4 lety

      When did you ordered your mini?

  • @CollegeRecruitsNW
    @CollegeRecruitsNW Před 4 lety

    Excellent stuff! My controller order is in, motor will be next. Thanks CC!

  • @pnoon43
    @pnoon43 Před 4 lety +1

    Brian i wasn`t sure what the battery would do but heard it helps but for couple of miles per hour the controller and motor were the best improvements. I wonder if you lost any total milage from what you did ? My orange armor bags are out of order so hopefully they will come soon. Talk about the heat it 93 at 1:15 pm and it just sucks the energy out of ya. Lots of motorcycles for sale right now i think people are cleaning house if they aren`t back to work. Looking at a 2009 yamaha vstar 950 tour - 5588 miles $3150 in Dalonega,Ga extremely good deal if it works like it looks -air cooled though. Market place. Thanks for the latest video do enjoy Pat

  • @bruceszczepinski6150
    @bruceszczepinski6150 Před 4 lety

    Excellent review!! I got a 2020 rad mini step thru and i love it! The upgrade contoller is on my list! Thanks for your videos.

    • @CitizenCycle925
      @CitizenCycle925  Před 4 lety

      we have a 2020 Rad mini stepthru as well, my lady rides that one, cool looking bike. i may upgrade controller for her as well.

  • @JohnnyC10071959
    @JohnnyC10071959 Před rokem

    I'd like to see this done to a Himiway Cruiser. A comprehensive list of what you bought with links to each item would be nice.

  • @pinkink9298
    @pinkink9298 Před 2 lety

    That thumbnail rocks

  • @DanielLopes-jt8yl
    @DanielLopes-jt8yl Před 4 lety

    Excellent! Excellent! Excellent! Costing it out was the best thing as you are spot on as to then how to proceed. I’ve put in that amount and haven’t ripped the bike apart yet. Won’t till I get the Juiced Hyper Scorpion. Whalen all is done the RadMini will be my mule and the Hyper my cruse show bike! As to your hub being warm try dialing controller back to 30amps? Save the motor! And interesting as to 48v and 52v batteries delivering about the same. This makes me feel positive about my Juiced Hyper buy as it’s a 1000w motor with 52v battery. The 1000w motor better able to absorb the current sent to it. To I bought Grins technology battery satiater to insure good compatibility with BMS.

  • @juangulrud2420
    @juangulrud2420 Před 4 lety +8

    You should make the rover all wheel drive with the extra motor

    • @MR_R.o.b.o.t.o
      @MR_R.o.b.o.t.o Před 4 lety

      THIS IS WHAT I WAS REALLY WANDERING!

    • @Summitperry
      @Summitperry Před 4 lety

      Spacing is wrong. A rear motor won’t work on a front fork.

    • @Thomas-po3by
      @Thomas-po3by Před 4 lety

      I believe they make a front wheel kit for what could make a bike all wheel drive.. just don’t know how it would connect with the rear motor, battery and throttle???

    • @juangulrud2420
      @juangulrud2420 Před 4 lety

      Maybe have two throttles?

    • @Summitperry
      @Summitperry Před 4 lety +1

      You need two controllers.

  • @bobhartwell3262
    @bobhartwell3262 Před 4 lety

    The bbshd mid drive lets you go from first gear to 7 great for low end tork and high end speed .i do like your ride it is simple and to the point .nice vid as always.

  • @terrymoser2028
    @terrymoser2028 Před 2 lety

    Thanks for the information. Food for thought.

  • @robertt3551
    @robertt3551 Před 3 lety

    Glad to hear that anyone with basic mechanical skills can do what you can. Testing the result of each upgrade is very scientific. Are you an engineer?
    Plus your sense of humor makes your channel super entertaining! thanks bro!

  • @stuartcodding1803
    @stuartcodding1803 Před 4 lety

    Thank you for your videos! Looking forward to a brake upgrade one..

  • @michaelbedard7859
    @michaelbedard7859 Před 4 lety +1

    Great review 👍 I was looking forward to this and you did a great job.......

    • @CitizenCycle925
      @CitizenCycle925  Před 4 lety +1

      Thanks Michael, hope the info helped or was at least entertaining.

  • @peacefulprepper2402
    @peacefulprepper2402 Před 4 lety

    Outstanding. Great job on this. For the performance 5lbs is nothing.

  • @Idahobirdhunter53
    @Idahobirdhunter53 Před 4 lety

    Thanks! Just what I was looking for! Not a technical guy but feel I could do this!

    • @CitizenCycle925
      @CitizenCycle925  Před 4 lety

      You could definitely do it. And if you got the money they are great upgrades

  • @charlesdavis124
    @charlesdavis124 Před 4 lety

    Love your vids dude. Subscribed. I ordered my Rover yesterday but it's on back order. Can't wait to get it. Thanks for for the vids and helping me to make my decision.✌

    • @CitizenCycle925
      @CitizenCycle925  Před 4 lety

      Thanks Charles! Glad you are enjoying my videos. Hopefully you don't have to wait a crazy long time to get your bike.

  • @scotttaggart
    @scotttaggart Před 3 lety

    Great job! I learned a lot and you present it all very well.

  • @allenschmitz9644
    @allenschmitz9644 Před 4 lety +1

    The Rad is the best platform to use for up grades for the base price is cheap compared to other brands..

    • @nathangreen3110
      @nathangreen3110 Před 4 lety

      Yes you can get the rad, new controller and screen and duel parallel battery connection for 1750

  • @mad151maxx4
    @mad151maxx4 Před 2 lety

    another awsome video brother. im going need help with my mods my new bike comes in tuesday. thx

  • @Avscout
    @Avscout Před 4 lety

    Great videos man. I've been watching them all and trying to determine which bike I want to purchase. Good content.

    • @CitizenCycle925
      @CitizenCycle925  Před 4 lety

      thank you for the kind words! Best of luck in your purchase there are so many to pick from!

  • @9Venturi9
    @9Venturi9 Před 4 lety +1

    The easiest way to get hydraulic brakes is to buy the "Juintech M1 hydraulic calipers" for Front and Rear. Maybe Electro bike World carries them, or if not, Bolton Bikes has them, also with a video on replacing them.

    • @timdog740
      @timdog740 Před 4 lety

      9Venturi9 it had a guy on u tube showing u them juintech broke an stop working

  • @fastwheels2010
    @fastwheels2010 Před 4 lety

    Badass!!! waiting to get a rad rover. Eastcoast hope i can before winter. When they are in stock.

    • @CitizenCycle925
      @CitizenCycle925  Před 4 lety

      seems Rad an others have long wait times at the moment. my father just waited 4-6 weeks for his from Lectric, should arrive tuesday. if you know what you want, you better order!!

  • @geemy9675
    @geemy9675 Před 2 lety

    more amps increases torque so mainly acceleration and climbing (and heat)
    more voltage increases top speed

  • @sabinaps3930
    @sabinaps3930 Před 4 lety

    Thanks for your time and very honest opinions!!

  • @ronaldramsey7774
    @ronaldramsey7774 Před 3 lety

    Great detailed quality video. Thanks for answering lots of questions.

  • @ThePaa78
    @ThePaa78 Před 4 lety

    Great videos.... Have been keeping an eye on this with interest, have a radwagon 4 preordered and with time hoping these upgrades will be available for this bike

    • @CitizenCycle925
      @CitizenCycle925  Před 4 lety

      thanks Pat. hope the Radwagon works out for you, never seen one of those in person. hopefully your wait is not too long.

  • @alextorresphoto
    @alextorresphoto Před 4 lety

    wow what an eye opener!! Thank you so much sir. This is a great video, with clear information and you did a fantastic job. Everything looks real clean and slick. The tests speak for themselves. How can we test if the battery made a significant change to distance? I have to get mine and upgrade it and come down to NC to race! lol I'm glad you did it yourself, and showed honest results and observations.

    • @CitizenCycle925
      @CitizenCycle925  Před 4 lety

      Thank you for the kind words. Glad you enjoyed the video. Let me know when you're ready to race!!😁

  • @jeremymcpherson9405
    @jeremymcpherson9405 Před 4 lety

    I do have an EMTB but I can hit 35 on my road bike for a quarter mile. I think the benefit of the ebike is comfort. MTB will blow your legs up quick on the short steep ascents. The motor evens that out a bit.

  • @MindScienceAlchemy
    @MindScienceAlchemy Před 4 lety

    You performed a great service sir. Thank you.
    My Rover is to arrive this Tuesday. I'm very excited. And due to your experience, perhaps after the warranty expires. An upgraded controller it will be.
    I have the Rad rack and - the mirrors that you are pleased with ready to rock on Tuesday.
    From Charleston SC to Cary NC 👍🚴‍♂️💯

    • @CitizenCycle925
      @CitizenCycle925  Před 4 lety +1

      awesome, tuesday can't come fast enough i'm sure! this will probably be the only time you are excited for your warranty to expire hahaha

  • @Heno057
    @Heno057 Před 3 lety

    Same battery on alibaba for half the price, just a longer delivery time but its worth it

  • @mini-film-studios
    @mini-film-studios Před 4 lety

    Really nice video series. Injecting statorade/Ferro fluid may stop your motor overheating see Grin technologies videos they have excellent material. Similarly ebikeschool.com has a nice 48v vs 52v battery video that has a nice explanation on gains you might have seen, similarly make sure your using a new charger. Can't wait to see what's next. I'm new to this I'm building a hub motor fat bike myself will probably use the 750w bafang.

  • @andrewhunter5254
    @andrewhunter5254 Před 4 lety +1

    I've had my rover 8 months now so last week my derailer was catching in first gear this was an easy fix but then I noticed my back tyre was bald will a little bit of the green puncher protection lear showing through and the bike's only done 1300 miles in total. 🤔🚴‍♂️🚴‍♂️🚴‍♂️🚴‍♂️🚴‍♂️🚴‍♂️😎👍

    • @RockyLofeudo999
      @RockyLofeudo999 Před 4 lety

      All depends on how you ride your bike. Tires can wear out fast if you brake hard and skid alot.