Have the Radrover 6? You'll want to see this...
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THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS. I bought this bike a year ago and this kit can give me peace of mind that if Rad goes out of business, this bike can still be kept in working order if anything goes wrong with my parts.
If their plummeting customer service is any indication (along with closed European stores) they are definitely going out of business. Probably some of the worst customer service I’ve dealt with and my bike is a dud.
Glad to see this finally come out. Will be ordering right away.
Thanked for this video. I just purchased the version 2 for the rr+6. I can't wait to install it and get going. you will get all credit for transforming my bike. Thank you area 13!!!
I like your upgrade for its simplicity of installation and the great results. I like that the controller is EXTERNALLY mounted for better cooling. In fact my controller (mounted behind the seat tube, like you did) came with cooling fins on both sides. Mine is an 18 MOFSET, Sine Wave, 45 amp controller for the two 52v/750 watt motors (AWD) for 2200 watts certified.
BTW, I live in Las Vegas (Mojave Desert) so I need that cooling for my controller. My bike-> E-CELLS Super Monarch Crown
Got the area 13 full upgrade kit for my rad mini a few months ago, and turned it into a hot rod. I got the upgraded motor as well. Accelerates much harder and will pull almost 30 miles an hour now. I did wire in a 40 amp battery blender and an additional 14amp hour battery because with the controller sending double the watts out to motor it goes thru battery 2 times as fast so now I have full range still with the upgrades.
Just upgraded my bike with this yesterday. It rides so much better. There's a hill on my way to work that is no problem for my bike anymore.
Dylan, did yu see any decrease in range?
@@djs3746 not a significant one. It would be a drastic decrease if left on throttle on PAS 5, but where I used to have my bike at PAS5, I’ll do PAS 3 and it feels about the same. I put it on PAS 5 when I want to get up a hill with ease or beat a light that is about to turn red.
Great job on your new mod for the Rad!👏If you could come up with a way to test wattage on a bike and get true nominal and peak readings, you would be a "Rock Star". The peak wattage on the Ariel Rider Kepler is always under 1,300 in the display. Thousands of owners of the bike always wonder if that's correct,.... or are we getting more and it's not registering correctly? Did Ariel Rider misrepresent this bikes peak watts? Torque seems ok.. Claimed 108 Nm I believe. There is no dyno for EBikes I'm guessing. 🤔
I like the RadRover 6 plus stock. I don’t think it needs to be upgraded. But I guess to each his own.
Hey there! Great job! One question....would this work for the RAD rover5? I like the idea of a sinewave controller.
Love your videos. Do you have an upgrade kit for my HJM trike?
I live in Montana.
I must start saving for one of these for hunting season.
Would be fun running around in a foot of snow when everyone else is chained up...Have to wonder how the battery packs last in below zero temperatures.
Not uncommon to be hunting in -12 to -20.
Would be funny to pull a deer out on a sled with one 😂😂
Thanks for this add on motor controller for the Rad Rover 6+. Are there plans to have one available for the Rad Rover 6+ step through model?
So, just how far does it go with that new controller with that 14ah battery? The upgrade on my RadRunner+ shortened my battery life tremendously, from about 30-40 miles to around 20-25 miles, depending on how much pedaling I am able to do. With factory 250/500W=750W motor.
Will your kit get damaged if i use rads performance headlight with it as I've got one on my bike already. 😊❤🎉🎉🎉
Tks, I added a BBSHD mid-drive when I Rad components stopped working for the second time. Question is about controllers. ASI builds smaller ones that will fit in the frame. Rad uses one with the Rad 6plus. Be cool to have one.
Was going to get one of these for my gutless 6+ step thru and the wire routing is totally different. See if you can find a step thru and do another. Lol
On my 2019 Rover I installed Kyle's controller upgrade (the one before this new model), and his battery (52v 20ah Triangle Lithium Battery, that at the time was $650, but for Black Friday is $550. If you have the coin I'd grab one of those if it is compatible with your bike).
Took me a day to get everything installed (the battery was an extremely tight fit). And messing with cables and connectors that should be easy, never is.
End result: I live in San Francisco, and my place is at the very top of Nob Hill. Before Kyle's upgrades, on the flat lands my bike would top out at about 25 mph, but only with me peddling to get that extra 5 mph. And to get home, I had to put the bike in "2nd gear" and set the pedal assist to 5. With those settings I would have to peddle all the way up the hill, albeit there was zero strain in doing so.
After the upgrades: on the flat lands with throttle-only I can cruise about 25 mph. If I lightly peddle in high gear, I can easily travel at about 30+ mph. On my hill, I can use throttle-only to get to the top, crawling about 8 mph. If I pedal in 2nd gear, with pedal assist set on 5, I can cruise at 15 mph to the top.
So get those upgrades guys.
Any battery upgrades? Would be awesome to have a 20a battery that can be swapped in
Wish I could control PAS and throttle limit individually(on the fly). Looking to upgrade Radrunner2 eventually.
Interesting. By any chance would this controller upgrade also work on a RadCity 5 Plus? Asking because it's the same generation as the RadRover 6 Plus, they use the same semi-integrated battery and are very simllar bikes except for the tire size. And if it's not compatible, please consider this a request that Area 13 release a controller upgrade for the RadCity 5 Plus too. It would be greatly appreciated! Keep up the great work.
We haven't confirmed yet but it may be compatible.
@@Area13ebikes cool, I'll stay tuned :)
Would like to see a video comparing stock RR6 vs the area 13 from a stop
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I was wondering if you can replace the UI without replacing the controller and display I wanted an upgrade because the one I have is junk. I’m sending this on 18 February 2024
Can I buy the display without the controller to fit the red rover 6+ my UI is not turning the bike on the butt is messed up
Brand new one delivered yesterday. The power button will not turn the bike off. I know I’m not crazy. I’ve been thru the manual backwards and forwards!! It’s the holiday so the customer service is closed. I’m so annoyed!!!!😑
Where do I buy this for my Radrover 6. I’m in Ontario Canada
Maybe I missed it in the video, does the new controller screen show amount of battery life?
Hello, thank you for your explanation, I live in France and I have the Radrover6 Europe version with the Rad Power Bikes 250 motor Gear motor with 5:1 planetary reduction is what The V2 upgrade kit - for RR6+ European version is compatible ?
The V1 upgrade kit works fine on my RadRhino 6 + (European version) so I do not see why the V2 wouldn't work. At least I will give a try to the V2 when they will restock since I have a brand new RR6+ step thrugh coming soon.
I’ve got the radrhino 6 plus in the uk if i fitted a standard us version genuine controller would it unlock my throttle.
I have an opeak bike and would love to upgrade it do you have one for those bikes
@Area13ebikes hello does this support the radrover 6 Plus sold in Canada? I think our motor might not be the same
Yes it should. Motors have always been the same between US and Canadian bikes.
When will you restock that kit ?
Is there are any sort of top speed increase????
FYI - Controller location on the 6 Plus step through is below the battery. Look up this video "RadCity 5 Plus Step-Thru Controller Replacement". The Rad City 5 is set up the same as the 6 Plus. The video shows the controller location on the step through. I replaced my controller back in April and can confirm it's below the battery on the Step Thru version.
I haven’t been able to find that video for some reason.
So the throttle power is restricted based on which PAS level you're on?
One of my favorite features on the stock setup is if i'm on pas 3 and encounter a very short lived rise in terrain, I can deliver the full power with the throttle for a second or two..
So you lose that capability?
This has been changed. Kits now have full throttle available in 1-5 assist levels.
Any way to get it to go faster then the 24.8 mph?
If I mess with my lcd display does that void the warranty? And if I change it back, can anyone see how it was programmed previously?
No, they can't tell it was changed
It sounds like this kit isn't 'quite' there yet. Let me know when it is plz, thx
Will it, (motor controller,) work with RadRunner +?
It looks better/smaller.
This may be compatible with other models that have the integrated battery. But it isn't compatible with the older style battery setup.
Too bad so sad... I was ready to buy it until that... I like the older one, just not the size and it not being water resistant.
is it the same for european version?
How big of a speed difference does a 20” compared to a 26” tire make?
Four miles an hour....so I've read
How many watts did it push that motor to?
48 volts x 35 amps = 1,680 peak possible power.
Does this work on the RadCity 4?
Any upgrade plans for an Aventon Aventure?
We've had some requests for it. Won't be as significant for aventon bikes but that's not a no either....
@@Area13ebikes Awesome! Fingers crossed!
That will just alter the resistance with all that wire
I'm assuming the installation is exactly the same for the Red Rover 6 Plus?
I think the bike he's installing it on is the Rad Rover 6 Plus.
Hi A13
Do you Ship to the UK
Would I get the same improvement with my EU spec Rad 6+
What's the price inc shipping to the UK
Thanks
Andy Power
You can put your address in the cart and it will calculate shipping. The improvement will be much larger since you're limited to 250 watts now.
@@Area13ebikes Appreciate the increase watt power. Would I also get the 23 -25mph top speed. As the old controller would be bypassed.
Thanks again
Andy
Big game bikes has it in the UK.
@@andrewhunter5254 Cheers Andrew. That simplifies it.
Nice one
@@Area13ebikes Are you sure? I heard it is a different motor and just change US spec controller and / or display would not work at all.
Would love the extra power, but need more confirmation before making an order to europe.
Need your help... rad won't respond to my emails... how to fix code 21
Ariel Rider claims 1,800 peak watts on a Kepler...Sure would be nice to have this set up for the Ariel Rider Kepler. One showing "true wattage" No Kepler owner has seen 1,300 wats or more ever displayed..40 amp max controller should do fine. 7 amp bump up. Adjustments for each PAS level to be % of power would be bad ass!
On my Kepler I got max 1840Watts. Throttle only max speed 38. W/pedaling 41mph. Has 60 amps batteries and 60 tooths gearing.
Which controller/ display upgrade kit can i use for my rad city 4 e bike.
You need this one: area13ebikes.com/products/radkit
@@Area13ebikesso has this answer changed. I ordered the Radcity 4 kit and this is what I was sent
More power for the RR6+, but how? Is it because the new controller delivers 35 amps? What's the max amps with the stock controller?
I'm looking into building a triple battery system for my RR6+ with the stock 48v 14AH battery and then two 48v 20AH batteries. Right now thinking of putting the 2 extra batteries in rear Fremont Pannier Bags.
I am trying to conceal the look of the extra batteries so the bike does not stand out as a modified e-bike as much as possible. Also trying to keep the weight centered and as low as possible on the rear of the bike. My ultimate goal is to have battery capacity range of around 100 miles. Not sure right now if all three batteries would be used tied together, or just plugged in as the main battery is used up and then plug in one battery at a time with the spare batteries.
Would this new upgraded controller be a benefit to modifying my battery setup with the Red Rover 6 Plus?
Thank you for making this video, is very helpful!
why can't the top speed be increased?
this works for EU version ?
So, with this upgrade, the throttle is tied to PAS level? No way to change that back to the way the RadRover is setup? The PAS level throttle basically makes the throttle useless, once you start pedaling, which is an odd way to go. We have that style in our Lectric and it’s awful.
This may be a deal breaker for me too. Did you ever find out if this can be changed? I'm thinking I would hate this too.
I emailed them and they said you can’t change it in the settings, so we are stuck. I went with a different controller, even though I really wanted this one. This company seems to do great work, I just can’t have a throttle that doesn’t work when needed. My Lectric has this same “feature” and I hate it.
@@ComotionF-ok1mq I've emailed them as well and they responded saying they are checking with the manufacturer to see if it's possible to change the settings. They said they would reply once they have an answer. I assumed they manufactured it or commission it but maybe not.
You sent this kit to my buddy for his older Radcity 4. He is having problems with it turning off 5 min after starting to ride. Please get ahold of him. Totally messed up our holiday last weekend. He’s gotten a hold of you but no one has helped him yet except for saying sorry. Well sorry isn’t cutting it. PLEASE get back ahold of Tom and help him fix the problem. This isn’t even the kit he ordered. You sent him this instead
will this kit work on the EU version 🤔
As far as we know, yes.
Why buy an underpowered bike when there are so many new bikes out there with 750 watts nominal power with peak power over 1000 watts; and the prices are probably cheaper than Rad? Area 13 bikes, Magicycle, Hemiway are just some examples. Look before leaping.
Put this puppy on the dyno and see what the kit does? 😂👍
I go 24 mph max 25 with the stock unlocked and it feels much faster
Great video but you're looking to get taco'd, staring at your screens like that.
Will this give it more top speed?
any way to get a new wiring harness for A radcity 4?
Rad e-bikes are underpowered and overrated, maybe even overpriced. rad e-bikes could be so much more if rad would just build a decent e-bike. so thanks for doing and developing all the parts that rad e-bikes should be doing on their own.
They probably do that to stay well within the ebike regulations. However, they could configure their hub motors to produce more torque, which is more useful for hill climbing and acceleration, but not necessarily for higher top speed.
Hey Rad Customer Service is HORRIBLE and after dealing with them for two months they determined my error 21 is due to a faulty controller and wiring harness. It is under warranty and they said they would ship the replacement but they never did. They say they don’t have the item in stock. Bike was only a few months old-stay away from Rad everyone.
Wow, top speed of 25mph WITH the upgrade? What does it go, 20mph stock? That's pretty lame, not the upgrade, the stock motor. I have a 30a controller on my bike and get 32/33mph on level ground. What an overpriced piece of garbage.
Can u email me a link to the upgrade