I have a RadRover 5 - If you are afraid to lift 70 lbs out of the box... - simply run a box cutter down each end of the box and drop the side and slide out.
Thanks! Great idea! The box was so nice, I thought about it, but didn't want to destroy it. I know that's weird... Also, I didn't know for sure if I was going to keep it.
lol. I just got my RadMission 1. I ended up turning the box over on its side and pulling it out horizontally. I guess my gf could've helped me lift it, but she's short, the box is tall, and she was on the phone. It's funny that everyone has a different way of removing it.
This bike was on my radar to purchase, then I decided to purchase an ebike conversion kit for my Schwinn 26". I have with everything around $600. Not including the bike. I will say to anyone looking at purchasing or building an ebike. Get the largest wattage motor you can. Mine is 1,000 watts and I kinda regret not getting the 1,500 for a few bucks more. Also, it's all about the battery. 48volts minimum and 52 volts even better. Get the largest amp hour battery you can afford as that will determine range. Your weight is also a big factor. I'm 225 lbs and my bike does struggle a little on hills but I can easily help it up... I get about 20 miles using just throttle. That's with a 13 amp hour 48v battery.
Thanks for putting out a great informative video. I was contimplating the urRider seat, but seeing it in your vid had me convinced! just ordered one! cheers!
Thanks! I'll do a full review on this next, but it's not the perfect fit - I have to raise the seat a little bit higher than I would like, but still awesome!
I am Rad Rover owner.... I highly recommend this bike for a Big and Tall guy like me. As a motorcycle rider, this e-bike feels "right" and safe but offers a robust riding experience. The Rover also has a growing aftermarket so Drivetrain parts and higher performance components are becoming more available.
@@terrytiger99 Yes! ..... The important thing is to decide whether a Step-over or Step-Thru is right for you....The Step-over is a "tall" bike.... the Step-thru is easier to mount. Check the dimensions at Rad's site before making a purchase.
I'm a short fella about 5'6 and bought The Rover 5 step through for several reasons, when my wife wants to ride my rad, she can though she's about 5'3 ! The trick for me is I need the seat fairly high for my height so I don't bind my knees, (yowch) as unlike many ebikers I actually put meat behind the pedaling w/my mule sized legs! You don't want to injure your knees! I'm not so macho that I had to get the Rover 6 Plus, though it took me several times flipping a coin .....ohhhh I wanted that bike!! Anyway, the trouble for me just like when i was young, is when I have to stop (please walk bike here) ugh we have all seen those signs !! I don't get them, but I stop and gotta get down and usually quite abruptly! If I had a bar across the top I would probably have hernia and singing a bit higher toned if ya know what I mean! Anyway, Love my bike despite a cpl small issues! Now a rear flat at 127 miles, hindering my goal of 1,000 miles in a year, hopefully more like the New Year! So looks like we'll be spending plenty of money on tools a rack and mechanics rack and time learning how to work on these critters. I have seen dozens of various brands in the area here and hope to be able to help folks out more soon. If anyone knows of a good heavy duty locking bike rack that can carry 2 Fat Tire Ebikes of 72 Lbs each for reasonable please let me know! You welders out there would make a fortune if you could make something better than then Hollywood Version and beat their price, they are backed up till July 2022 at the time of this letter! Anyway, God Bless You Biking adventures everyone, lets stay fit together ! John 3:17-18
Coming late to this - but on #3, what you need is a Torque Wrench (not an Allen wrench). Torque wrenches are designed to limit the amount of torque that you can put on a fastener and are available in a number of capacities. You will see NM (Newton Meters), Ft Lb (Foot Pounds) and In Lb (Inch Pounds) - most wrenches will have both FtLb (or InLb) and NM scales. +1 on Rad's instructional videos - amazingly well done. I just bought a RadRover 6 Plus and its my first bicycle since around 1976. Took me about 30-40 minutes from box to road.
Thanks for sharing your video. We purchased two Rad Rover 6s and assembled them in the garage. The assembly was well documented online and in the book. I like your suggestions about the Newton meter and the pedal wrench. Being old school I pulled out my torque wrench that is about 18 inches long and decided to guess at the torque. My wife is enjoying the bike she actually asked me to go riding today, that was a first. Again thanks for the video.
Tip on how to get one out of the box. open the top, locate which side the rear wheel is on, tip the box so its vertical, and the rear wheel is on the bottom. Grab the seat post, and pull the bike out, push the box away. It's way easier to tilt your box up, than it is to lift the bike out. Once the bike is free of the box, you can set the front end down with minimal effort.
@@edwardcote1331 True words, that is easier. Rad bikes come with a 14 day 10 mile return policy, if you think there is a possibility you'll be returning the bike I'd keep the box intact.
@@WeTriedIt That's my Camp Scrambler. After I got my Rad Runner I loved it so much I wanted to buy a 2nd e-bike but one with gears and front suspension. Almost pulled the trigger on the Rad Mini 'til I saw the Scrambler on sale for the same price, but with bigger battery and motor! It's fun but since I put the 35a controller in the RR, it now has more power than the Scrambler!!!!
Great video! Thanks for sharing your observations. You are dead on about getting a better Allen wrench. Some of my observations to add to yours: -- Put the bike in Mode 1 assist the first time you ride it, and get used to twisting a little throttle to get going; but don't play with throttle if you are not seated on the bike (sounds stupid, I know, but I saw someone almost get injured) -- To turn on the headlights, press and hold "Mode" and the "Up" arrow. This is in the manual, but you have to search for it. -- Order bike grease before you assemble, as you need to lubricate the seat stem and the peddles -- You can use scissors or pliers to cut all the zip ties during assembly, but the recommended flat cutters work best. They are $10 from Amazon. -- You are correct about feeling a little too invincible, be careful. You may find yourself doing things you would never do on a traditional bike, like pulling out into on coming traffic where you could not do this with a traditional bike, or going too fast on bike lanes where there are trees or other obstacles. -- If you want certain Rad Power accessories, order them the minute they are in stock. They are FREQUENTLY out of stock of the most desirable items (racks & baskets), and you may wait weeks or months before they are in stock again.
I ride my RAD Expand 5 about twice a week, pretty much entirely on the beach where I live, on the Oregon coast. This bike does an amazing job in the sand but I only get about 9 miles on the beach before I've lost the first 2 bars, at which point I turn around and head back. By the time I get home, I've lost the 3rd bar but that's as far as I've ever gone. I have noticed a substantial loss of torque as each bar disappears so having a second battery installed would be a big plus, not just for range but for maintaining power and speed on a shorter or standard ride. I've seen no issues at all driving it through freshwater streams up to a foot deep, as well as through the salt water along the coastline. I've had mine for about six months and have put a little over 200 miles of beach riding on it and everything is still working perfectly. I just keep the mechanicals lubed and hose it off after each ride. I run the tires at 15 psi and have added a real thumb throttle which I feel is a vast improvement over the lame twist throttle that comes on these bikes. I also recently upgrade to a suspension seat post which I thought was hokey before I bought it but wanted to try it out and surprisingly it works really well. You just have to adjust the tension so that it does not compress at all when you sit on the seat, only when you hit bumps. This is the perfect amount of compression, otherwise, you'll be bouncing up and down all over the place and it is really distracting.
Hey, I just came across this new project called freebeat's Morph 2-in-1 e-Bike and it seems pretty cool. One outstanding feature is that it can be charged when you apply indoor mode! With its brushless 750W motor, it delivers impressive torque and reaches a top speed of 20mph. Plus, it has front suspension and puncture-resistant fat tires for a smooth ride in any condition. The Morph eBike also has a Smart Saddle Detection+ feature that helps you achieve fitness goals. I think this e-bike offers a unique blend of fitness and technology, don't you think?
Nice thing about RadRover‘s is they’re perfect for upgrading👍 I put a true 750 motor on mine easy job, a new controller, two 52 V 21 amp hour batteries, controlled by a Date X 2 from England that manages and sips from each battery increasing your range even more. Very few bikes have the space or means to upgrade but RadRover‘s do.
Flip large, heavy boxes upside down, open and lift the box off. :-) Most don't really need to be flipped before opening. Do it near a wall to help prevent tipping.
I just took my Rad Rover 6 Plus out for 2 hours today. I live in an area with mostly hills, some steep. During a ride through a local golf course I came upon a medium in length, steep incline. I had it on easy pedaling (level 2-3) with pedal assist adjusted to 5, and nothing. I had to stop and walk the bike up the rest of the incline. I am not a strong rider - so this could just be me. This bike is a beast in weight. I decided to leave the course and go up other steep hills in my neighborhood. When I was in pedal assist 2-3, I still had throttle, but once I went to assist 5, I had nothing. I tried all different things with easy pedaling + assist 2, 3, 4....but once the hill became more steep, there was no assist on 5, OR no throttle with lower levels assist - nothing. I live over a very steep long hill, so now I am wondering if I just shouldn't have converted my mtn. bike to an e-bike since the RAD seems to be a dog.
I got a Radrover 6 acouple months ago and can't tell you how happy I am with it. I worked in a bike shop for years way back so I know what I'm talking about the quality of these are very good. I have mine unlocked and doing the 24.8 mph and im on and off the curbs jumping everywere and around cars etc.. its heavy, but its a beast and like it more and more as I ride it even 200 miles later, especially when im buying accessories for it.
13,300 miles and going strong. I have Rad Rover ST1, same chain. Original battery, although I do have an extra battery. I only ride paved trails. Its an awesome bike.
I've had my two his/her Radrovers since 2016 with a total of 7500 miles between them. On my 3rd set of tires and 3rd set of brakes. Had the usual controller issues; but resolved under warranty and good Rad customer service. I did add the Cloud-9 cruiser seat, Kinect bodyfloat suspension seatpost, Topeak rear rack and bag+panniers with the quicktrack system, and handlebar extenders for cell phone and extra headlight (I like blinking headlights for daytime). Not sure if newer Radrover fixed this minor issue; but, my controller was set for 26" tire size. Didn't think much about it until I purchased a 2018 Radcity step-thru because the wife wanted something easier to ride than her fat tire ebike. My odo/mph didn't match up to her ebike until I set the Radrover tire size to 28" within the controller. The rim of the Radrover is 26"; but, the outside of the tires is closer to 28"-29". I confirmed my speed on my Radrover updated with 28" tire size with those neighborhood digital speed signs and it matches.
Thanks for posting I guess what everyone seems to forget it's a three things how much does it cost how far will it go how fast will it go just my opinion
I just purchased the midstep radmission after test riding one at the radbike dealer here in Vancouver. I was lucky and didn't have to wait for shipping as they had one in the box on site. I did opt to have them put it together there for me as I'm not entirely comfortable doing it myself and want it done correctly. They have a backlog of bikes to put together so mine will most likely be at least a week before it's ready but I'm fine with that. I'm used to riding a hybrid so the radmission feels quite similar but you're right about how much faster it goes than I'm used to. I'm not a fast rider anyway at 54 with aging knees and when I tested this thing a pas level 4 pedalling hard I was going WAY faster than I'm used to. People already talk about the great range of these and I think that if I ride mostly on level 1 or 2 with only bumping it up for hills I'll be able to go great distances indeed!...for the time being I'm just going with the kickstand, I've never needed racks as my riding is all just pleasure rides and never grocery runs or things like that and I'm used to wearing a backpack for what I need to carry. I don't know exactly what to expect from the lights but I'm putting my rechargeable cygolite 1100 on the front and cygolite hotshot taillight on the rear regardless as I do enjoy riding places like the completely dark seawall at night. And during the day both lights are more than bright enough to be seen. I have high quality abus locks too. I'm absolutely thrilled to be the proud owner of a nice ebike now and I'm gonna seriously heed your advice and take it easy at first and really get a feel for the bike before I go nuts and floor it so to speak. Safety first fer sure 😊
Thanks for the comments! Yes, and watch out for Ice/Snow! It can be a little slippery. I do think folks feel a bit invincible when riding these, just because you can do whatever you want - see a hill, take it. Just be careful. :)
Hey Tye, I was just at the vancouver showroom as well on saturday (march 20) they just happened to be having a garage sale of sorts. managed to get a rad rover and a rad city for 1399.99 each. my wife and i already have a rad runner that we share. I dont know if you know this or not... but the radmission that you purchased has a smaller battery than the other models of rad bikes so your range may be slightly less than other models. congrats on the purchase! once your on your bike in the summer on the seawall youll get nothing but thumbs up from everyone. everyone LOVES these bikes...good thing you have a good lock!!! be safe out there!
@@Richmond69er wow!...you got killer deals on those bikes, congratulations!...I looked at those as well but I like the simplicity of the radmission as I won't be hauling anything more than a backpack and it's an easy bike to get on transit with as I live in Surrey and plan on many seawall and false creek and beach runs from that area. I used to do those rides regularly but my knees have been a bit problematic for the last year or so but I wanna keep riding like I used to and the radmission fits the bill perfectly!...maybe see ya on the seawall sometime, I'll be the grinning guy on the red midstep haha!...cheers and ride safe😊
Like everyone says: Tip #1 should be to cut down the sides of the box and use it as an assembly mat to protect the bike and your knees if doing this on a concrete garage floor.
Thank you for the great video. I am looking to purchase my second e-bike to replace my first one. Since I don’t currently own a car, my bicycle is my primary transportation, and after more than 4500 miles on my last one, it became time to get the next one.
The brand I had for my first e-bike was by Merax. It was there first and only venture outside of there usual regular sport bike line. They didn’t really support it. It worked well for my first. It was rated for 245 pounds and once I loaded up with groceries, I exceeded that rating at least once a week. In the end, I got all the use out of it that could be expected for $800. I am looking forward to an upgrade.
I also don't own a vehicle. I don't know what mileage I had, but the bikes got stolen almost like clockwork every two years and yes I took precautions. Carrying around a logging chain was a bit much, but they had hefty bolt cutters for everything else. At Dollar General they cut off the handles on the ice machine I was chained to. At 76, I'm not getting an 80 pound bike
Hands down, get the Aventon Aventure. My buddy has the Rad and i have the Aventure and he tells me all the time how he made a mistake after trying mine out. Componets and power is a world of difference. The list goes on.
I agree with the video that is relatively easy to assemble IF you are mechanically inclined. I have a Rad Rover 6 and I love it "when it works". Before ordering I would highly recommend that you investigate reviews about their customer service. I would also recommend that you check to see if there are any bike shops in your area that service Rad bikes, especially during the warrantee period. From my experience with Rad, there is alot to be said about buying from a local bike shop. You can ride one before you buy. It will be fully assembled (and probably deliverd) and fully adjusted properly. You know that the bike can be serviced locally and probably given priority over bikes not purchased from them. Yes it will cost you a little more, but what is the value of "peace of mind".
Have two Rad Power bikes Needed a part for one of them had to email service back in forth several times plus send proof that I bought them from them and when before they would quote me a price and tell me if I could buy the part. Fixed it myself!
Bought two RadRover 6's.Part 1: got both out of the box myself. 3: Ours goes 20 MPH which is what I expected and didn't think it was scary. 5: As to the pedals, they have a wrench in the tool kit that tightens it up just fine
I recently got a RadRunner and the one thing I wish I had paid more attention to was the weight. This is entirely my fault of course as they're not misleading anyone about the weight of their bikes, but I wish I had taken it a bit more seriously how heavy the bike is even compared to many other electric bikes. It turns out I absolutely can't store it inside where I planned, and have to keep it outside. Luckily I live in an area where leaving a bike outside overnight is not necessarily complete madness, and the bike rack is decently located, so after investing a fair bit in security, it's been going well so far. But anyone who doesn't have convenient ground-level storage should pay attention to the weight of an electric bike, and Rad Power bikes are mostly on the heavy side (the RadRunner even moreso as it's basically a small cargo bike). I would only have to climb six steps to get the RadRunner inside and it's not really doable, and would risk damaging the bike. The other thing is I got the RadRunner Plus and didn't realize that some accessories, like the pannier bags, require taking off not just the passenger seat (but of a pain but fine if you don't have to do it twice a day) but basically the entire passenger package including foot pegs and wheel skirts (pegs get in the way of clipping the bag so that it doesn't get in the way of pedaling, wheel skirt gets in the way of unbolting the pegs). I managed to get it on without having to take everything off, but in a way that probably voids warranty! I appreciate the advantages unique to the Plus (suspension and multiple gears, mostly) so I probably would have gotten it anyway, but basically switching between different accessories is considerably more of a pain than I thought.
I just bought a Radmini from a seller on Facebook Marketplace. I didn't expect that I have to replace the break pads. Overall, it's the best bike that I've ever used.
I have a rad rhino (Same bike but only 250w UK ruddy silly laws) and I love her, I use her everyday going to work and back and in West Yorkshire we have hills oh boy do we have hills and she still glides up them okay on pedal assist 5 and my massive calves lol. The only problem I have is that the EU customer service is shocking....my battery has a fault I have sent emails and nowt so I got my bike mechanic to sort it and has now voided the warranty. But I needed her up and running. Anyhow good video cheers pal.
I just purchased two Radmission 1 Ebikes and have zero complaints. These bike are amazing and the customer support is phenomenal. I see two and three thousand dollar bike that do not match up.
Your front fender stays should be located further down the shock tube. Sliding the clamps down to the rear facing bolt holes on the shock tube will increase the the size of your fender, shock tube, & fender stay triangle, giving you a more stable mounting.
Nice review and spot on. I got mine in Jan and really enjoy it. Two suggestions first is in the documentation that is on the website about breaking in breaks. The 2nd is tune the derailleur up front, I found it was close but needed a little adjustment. I had never done this b4 but the Rad video on drivetrain made it easy.
@@WeTriedIt When I first got my RadWagon and took it out for a ride I noticed shifting was not as quick as i thought it should be. One other thing when I changed from 7th to 6th gear I had to push slightly farther to get the chain to move. I then watched the Rad video on the derailleur and adjusted it as they showed. It made a difference and I also don't worry of ever being in first gear and the chain getting caught between that gear and the wheel and lock up the rear wheel. Hope this makes sense, if not chat with the folks @ your bicycle shop. I am new to a derailleur as the last bike I had was over 50 years ago and it was a single speed. :) Yes I AZ m old but love my Rad!
newton meters (NM) is just a measurement or torque like foot-lbs. I’m assuming the tool you purchased was an Allen torque wrench. The torque wrenches for cars are usually in like 10NM increments.
Thats the whole purpose of the derailleur guard. It protects that when you tip the bike over ." DON'T TAKE IT OFF" It would be very expensive if you tweak or bend the derailleur not to mention the days or weeks you may not be able to ride.
I agree Please leave on the guard, this will save you tons of headaches and cash down the road, there are ways to beef it up or replace it as well! That would be like taking the battery out and riding it around, still works fine,,,,,, but not really In God We Trust, Not Government
A tip, take a razor and score the outside of the box has not to damage the bike, and then pull the flap open :-) All you need is one side open. Thank you for putting this together!
I live in fort Collins and I have order a rad power city bike , you forgot to mention the ten year you have to wait to get your bike, because of all the orders rad power has on back order.
I bet you can save yourself a lot of trouble at the beginning by just laying that box open with the bike still standing in it. Then if the bike tips over while you're messing with it, it lands on cardboard instead of the hard floor, saving both bike and floor from damage. (edit: just now realized I'm about the millionth person to say this, but Ima leave it up anyhow. :) )
I'm a little late to this party but you can increase the top speed easily. Go into the menu and the first or second setting I believe it is, is set in kilometers at about 32 or so kilometers by default. Take it up to its Max at 40 km and it will get you roughly 25 miles an hour throttle on flat ground. If you have looked around on CZcams about the bike by now, you probably already know this one.
@@bruceking440 On my 2018 Rover and 2019 Rad City you could get into the settings in the menu and you could feel and see the little bit of difference it made. I don't know about the 2020 but on the 2021 they have changed the motor, the controller and the display to proprietary and you can't get into these sub menus anymore. I watch reviews on the newer bikes and I see a lot of them are not allowing you to get into any sub menus to make changes. So what you get from the factory is pretty much what you get unless you want to spend some more money and change all that stuff out. There are some now that are set where you can get up to 28 miles an hour or so. If I was buying new, and that extra speed was important, which it was to me, I would look at buying one of those first. There was something about 20 miles an hour that just didn't feel fast and even if you peddled it just started freewheeling and you couldn't gain any speed. I think a lot of manufacturers are limiting theirs to 20 mph throttle only to keep them class 2 so if the laws ever become standardized at that, they'll be good to go.
@@bruceking440 Yes I've been seeing that in comments on the newer ebikes. I tend to believe that's probably so. A good example is the Adventure Avaton ebike. Was almost going to buy one cuz it is a good looking step through and I'm getting up in years. LOL. But even though it says it goes 28 it only goes 20 on throttle. You can get it up to 28 but you have to pedal after 20. That keeps it a class 2. That was a deal-breaker for me, plus it had the throttle on the left side. That's a whole new learning curve.
Why did you get the Radrover over the Radcity if your primary use is urban? I am looking to purchase the new RadCity 5 Plus but they made the tires thinner in the newer model and so I am considering the Rover 6 plus for the fat tires so I can take the bike on trails. But I am traditionally a city rider (80% city 20% trails). How does the Rover perform on paved roads? Are the tires loud?
Good question! I actually think you’d be ok with either one but I’d make your determining factor be the weight actually. The KBO breeze has similar sized tires as the RadCity and it handles trails great (the suspension is key for trails). If you can want a smaller bike, go with the City. But you can throw anything at the RadRover.
@@WeTriedIt The KBO breeze has 2.4" wide tires, which is similar to the old RadCity model. The new one Radcity 5 plus (currently on pre-order) has 2" inch wide tires and are less knobby (less traction?) than before. If the new Radcity still had the 2.3" inch wide tires as before I would have gotten it no problem. The new tires have given me a bit of a pause in my decision.
On My Himiway 15-16 MPH is just normal cruising. I've hit 30 MPH on it without any trouble. Check the reviews on the Himi vs the Rad and You might sell that Rad critter.
@@WeTriedIt I have the Mt. Bike style one not the step through. They are both called a Himiway Cruiser. Much more power then the others even near the price. Questions ?
I was referring the Allen Wrench and there is this one: wetried.it/recommends/rad-power-bike-allen-wrench/ - One of the things that I'll add to my full review is having the bike tuned-up by a professional after installing it yourself. It made a huge difference!
FYI: You're not "installing" the bike, you're assembling it. Isn't Relive app amazing and fun? I like the kiddie seat and handle, that's cool. I have a Juiced RCS and love it! Power on!
I got mine exactly 2 years ago (the step-through version). Since then I've bought the following upgrades: RadPower upgraded front light High lumen front light Handlebar extension bar (for front light and phone holder) Replacement bike battery charger (the default burned out/overheated after about a year. The new one I have has a fan built in and an auto shut off to prevent overcharging) TANNUS ARMOR for the rear tire to prevent flats Surly Nate tires (tall knobs provide better grip and make the tires last a lot longer) Ibera bike rack, panniers, and top bag (for bike lock, sunglasses, night riding glasses, gloves, groceries) Lumos Matrix bike helmet (this thing will really get you noticed at night. The wiring on the on/off switch disconnected from wear and is a bad design, so it only lasted a year). I got it on sale about 50% off during pandemic. Lumos Ultra bike helmet (this is more affordable than the Matrix and a lot lighter) Mission Workshop "The Vandal" backpack The Vandal backpack is the best "bike accessory" purchase I ever made. It's a beast and can hold up to 65L. It's the absolute best backpack you can buy for grocery runs. I almost never use my Ibera bags for groceries now. It's designed very well. Unlike other backpacks I've had, it positions the weight better on your shoulders and back, so even when you're carrying 50 lbs. it feels lighter. My other backpacks would start pinching the blood flow off from my arms if I tried that much weight. The bag is also so easy to get on and off my shoulders. My other backpacks I would have to wrestle to get them off me. The Vandal just slides on and off, love it. The only caveat is of course the price, it's very expensive. Last I checked it was $355 which was about $20 more than what I paid for it (inflation, I'm guessing). The Tannus Armor insert is an absolute must buy. I'm close to 300 lbs. with a full backpack so there's an enormous amount of pressure on the rear tire, which grinds small pieces of glass through the tire no matter what. And trust me you don't want to get flats on this bike (on the rear wheel), it's a huge hassle. I don't worry about the front tire because there's not enough force/weight to cause punctures. I think in 10 years of cycling I got a front tire puncture only once. The Tannus Armor is really good, it's a very large foam insert. It even protects against pinch flats or side punctures. And provides a softer ride. Highly recommend! I've owned the bike for 2 years and use it for daily commutes to work, 6 nights a week, about 7 miles total each day. About a month ago the motor has started to make a rattling noise which is strong enough to cause the front tire to rattle as well. It's not a huge deal it's just a noticeable noise (can't be felt while riding). So I'm not sure if it's nearing the end of its life or not. I haven't really found any information yet on how long these motors are supposed to last. Also, the battery has lost 20-25% of its amp hours. But I only bike 7 miles or less each day so I still get home with 2 or 3 bars left. I also always ride on Turbo or use the throttle for maximum speed. One of the other things I really like about this bike is it's durability. It's like a tank. In the cycling community I'm what you call a "clydesdale" being a lot heavier than most cyclists. The large fat tires and tough steel frame means it can hold a lot more weight without worrying about causing wear to the frame or damage. I also like the step-through version as it makes it a lot easier to get off the bike, especially with a tall rear bag on the rack.
35 Nm is 25 lb ft and if one uses any normal open end wrench it will be extemely difficult to apply more than that amount of torque. Bike shops have been install brake pedals for decades with only standard wrenches. All on needs to know is that one side will have right hand threads and the other will have left hand threads.
Don't remove the derailleur guard! Better to bend that guard during a fall than the derailleur itself, and possibly the bike frame (that's what the guard is there for).
@@WeTriedIt Perhaps for aesthetic reasons, and/or _maybe_ retentive concern over the fractional added weight. But it's hard to imagine what functional harm they might cause? Btw, nice review -- thanks for creating and sharing!
The mechanic I saw was kinda a traditionalist and said that the way the derailleur was on this bike, it was too close to the railleur (Im not sure that’s the right term). He said you can keep it on but can also remove it if you have problems. Kinda reminded me of the bottom retainer with braces. 😂 Thanks for the kind words!
@@WeTriedIt The only remotely plausible issue I can think of is that when shifting up to the highest gear (the smallest sprocket), the derailleur might bump the guard, possibly preventing the shift from occurring. But this has never happened on my RadRunner Plus (because of course RPB accounted for proper clearance in the design of the guard). Should this ever happen, the issue rests with the derailleur being out of proper adjustment.
👍 Sounds like you know a lot more about Rad Power Bikes! I’ll keep you’re recommendation! I’ve got a couple more videos I’m working on and I’ll share your advise. Bikes are so simple, in theory l, but there’s a lot more that goes into it all. The second you start diving in, it’s a giant rabbit hole that’s more confusing. 😅
So I got the Rad Power 4. It did fulfill my desires. Then I had a blowout in the rear tire. Five months ago now. They have not repaired this situation. I really do wish that they had responded promptly.
Great Video. Another thing that Rad power doesn't tell its customers. It's that the motor is peaking at 750 Watts but it's really a 500W motor. (Just saying)
Wow I'm in Ft Collins too! My rover 6+ should be here next week, can't wait..duh. I'm wondering if anyone thinks it would be OK to use thread lock on those pedals, I've watched the setup video twice and there recommending to use the grease they've included. It would be a rhetorical question to as how you like the bike, I'm sure I'll love mine! Well maybe we'll see you out on the trail sometime. Cheers
Small world! 6+ came last week (review coming soon!) and it’s awesome. Seriously feels like an upgrade. There wasn’t any grease included, but you can buy some on Amazon for $5ish. Also use it on the seat post. I wouldn’t recommend thread lock, just use the same lube and tighten really hard.
Yes, I am 73 years old and there was no way I was going to lift the Rad Runner out. So I just cut the ends like you did. That should be the instructions really.
Do yourself a favor-Grease all threads before assembling-it’s usually steel going into aluminum when that gets wet and corroded good luck unscrewing it
How do you charge it up? How long does it take? Do you use a regular outlet? Does it come with a charging cord? What is the range? Does plugging in a phone affect the range? Can you use pedal and electric at the same time? Does it have an indicator of battery charge? Is its a street legal motorized vehicle? Does it need to be registered with the DMV? What about liability insurance? More questions unanswered than answers.
Hey Bro, Nice video I just bought myself a Radrunner Plus, Great tip on the mobile bike shop, Thanks!! I also live in FOCO west side, Do you use any apps for bike routes. Any cool places you think i should go?
Awesome! I recommend the wrench mobile repair shop. The owner is great! Honestly, the Google Maps bike route is well done for my purposes, but I’m usually just riding with my little guy up front. Just posted the full RadRover 5 review here: czcams.com/video/gx63NvDi3AE/video.html
Just purchased a Radrover 6 Plus. The battery is DEAD! I can't get a hold of anyone at Rad to help me. No one answers the support center phone or message center. Any advice? Did something change in 2023?? I've been to the RadRover 6 plus group page on FB and it appears many folks are having the same issues with their bike and the disappointing customer service. help...anyone....
As an e-bike mechanic, easiest way to get it out of the box is two vertical cuts down two of the corners, allowing the sidewall to fall flat. Tah-dah! Slide the bike out.
I know... I know... leave it to the internet to tell me how dumb I am. 😂 All good... I just didn't want want to destroy the box in case I needed to send it back. I'm weird like that.
@@WeTriedIt Nah bro! Wasn't trying to come across like that. I was just sharing what worked for me when I was there at the shop early in the morning building bikes by myself. I get it too, sometimes we save the boxes for customers. 🤙😁
I owned one since they came out here in Seattle and you barely have to pedal up hills. It has a strong electric motor (750W) with good torque (80Nm). Just note the bike is 70 lbs so if the battery dies, you have a heavy bike to push around. It's kind of like a electric toothbrush, once the battery dies, you just have a heavy and awkward manual toothbrush. On the highest pedal assist, you can get a range around 25 miles doing 30 mph constantly. For me, the bike paid for itself in like a year not having to pay for parking or public transit fares. In Seattle, e-bikes are the fastest way to get around town. youczcams.com/video/3SmFVJ0BpK4/video.htmltu.be/3SmFVJ0BpK4?t=514
At this point, my family has bought 5 Rad Bikes, over the course of several years. About getting it out of the box... don't. Just cut the seams of the box and assemble the bike right there, on your new cardboard "assembly mat" :)
Pro Tip: By default, the max pedal assist speed is set to 25 mph. If you hold the the top and bottom button down simultaneously, you can access an internal menu which allows the user to increase the speed by 5 mph more. See the link below for instructions. Another upgrade I did to mine was increase the braking power with metal ceramic brake pads and new rotors. The bike is heavy and does 30 mph so if you ride it a lot, the brake pads wear out fairly fast. Metal ceramic pads last longer and stop faster. czcams.com/video/b6wuDOT1iek/video.html
Aventon aventure, my buddy and I went for a spin and he smoked me on my rad. The pickup on the Aventon was crazy quick. I should have done more research.
I want to purchase this bike but they still don't have the rear rack in black color. I want to buy everything in one shot. What is the maximum speed limit on this bike? I heard it is 25 mph. Can you go over that?
Howdy, I had the same issue - except with the large basket, it was out of stock. Make sure you sign up for the emails to get notified when they are back in stock. Rad Power Bikes ebikes in the US have a top speed of 20 mph without pedaling, which is the legal limit for street legal ebikes in most areas. There's no limit to how fast you can go with pedaling - except physics. :) There are some guides online to "hack" the bike to remove the limit, but I personally won't be doing it. Just don't need to go any faster.
Yes...but it requires aftermarket controller, display and motor....an after-warranty project for enthusiasts. The frame is built like a tank and easily accepts "upgrade" parts.
@@WeTriedIt I was finally able to buy the rear rack and it came first. Tomorrow the bike will come and also the child seat. I can't wait to put it together and start riding! I'm excited!
Getting the bike out of the box is EASY if you just cut the box. Four vertical cuts, spread the four sides out and you have a padded work surface. What's the point in having a perfectly preserved box that you're just going to cut up anyway?
@@WeTriedIt I just got the bike and it’s great so far. Only issue is the threads on the face plate for handlebars had metal shavings and build up in the front machining. One of the screws felt like it was going to strip but luckily it didn’t.
you probably found out by now...but no. A full suspension bike is a total different geometry. But you can get a suspension seat post that will help a bit and there are way more cushy seats around also. 🙂
@@ourelton Yes I figured that out now, but thanks anyways. I ended up not buying a Rad ebike instead I bought a Rize ebike and added a suspension seat post. I also changed the settings from 32 km/hr - 57 km/ hr, as Rize gives instructions on how to do it , and your warranty is still good up to 1 yr.
@@asoka2000 That is awesome Asoka! I bought a Rad Expand 5, scheduled delivery is this coming Monday. I complained to them a little bit about the information they sent me regarding shipping and set up and I got some money refunded. That smoothed things over a little bit and now it should be here in a day or two. 🙂
I have a RadRover 5 - If you are afraid to lift 70 lbs out of the box... - simply run a box cutter down each end of the box and drop the side and slide out.
Thanks! Great idea! The box was so nice, I thought about it, but didn't want to destroy it. I know that's weird... Also, I didn't know for sure if I was going to keep it.
i cut the bottom of the box and lifted it off the bike. man they are heavy.
lol. I just got my RadMission 1. I ended up turning the box over on its side and pulling it out horizontally. I guess my gf could've helped me lift it, but she's short, the box is tall, and she was on the phone. It's funny that everyone has a different way of removing it.
That was the first thought I had. Plus the cardboard will give you a place to keep off the floor while putting it together
Just light the box on fire, then brush away the ashes.
This bike was on my radar to purchase, then I decided to purchase an ebike conversion kit for my Schwinn 26". I have with everything around $600. Not including the bike. I will say to anyone looking at purchasing or building an ebike. Get the largest wattage motor you can. Mine is 1,000 watts and I kinda regret not getting the 1,500 for a few bucks more. Also, it's all about the battery. 48volts minimum and 52 volts even better. Get the largest amp hour battery you can afford as that will determine range. Your weight is also a big factor. I'm 225 lbs and my bike does struggle a little on hills but I can easily help it up... I get about 20 miles using just throttle. That's with a 13 amp hour 48v battery.
Thanks for putting out a great informative video. I was contimplating the urRider seat, but seeing it in your vid had me convinced! just ordered one! cheers!
Thanks! I'll do a full review on this next, but it's not the perfect fit - I have to raise the seat a little bit higher than I would like, but still awesome!
I am Rad Rover owner.... I highly recommend this bike for a Big and Tall guy like me. As a motorcycle rider, this e-bike feels "right" and safe but offers a robust riding experience. The Rover also has a growing aftermarket so Drivetrain parts and higher performance components are becoming more available.
thanks for the post man I am thinking about getting one too. I am 6'2 280lbs do you think I would be comfortable on this?
@@terrytiger99 Yes! ..... The important thing is to decide whether a Step-over or Step-Thru is right for you....The Step-over is a "tall" bike.... the Step-thru is easier to mount. Check the dimensions at Rad's site before making a purchase.
That is nice to know👍👍👍
I'm a short fella about 5'6 and bought The Rover 5 step through for several reasons, when my wife wants to ride my rad, she can though she's about 5'3 ! The trick for me is I need the seat fairly high for my height so I don't bind my knees, (yowch) as unlike many ebikers I actually put meat behind the pedaling w/my mule sized legs! You don't want to injure your knees! I'm not so macho that I had to get the Rover 6 Plus, though it took me several times flipping a coin .....ohhhh I wanted that bike!! Anyway, the trouble for me just like when i was young, is when I have to stop (please walk bike here) ugh we have all seen those signs !! I don't get them, but I stop and gotta get down and usually quite abruptly! If I had a bar across the top I would probably have hernia and singing a bit higher toned if ya know what I mean! Anyway, Love my bike despite a cpl small issues! Now a rear flat at 127 miles, hindering my goal of 1,000 miles in a year, hopefully more like the New Year! So looks like we'll be spending plenty of money on tools a rack and mechanics rack and time learning how to work on these critters. I have seen dozens of various brands in the area here and hope to be able to help folks out more soon. If anyone knows of a good heavy duty locking bike rack that can carry 2 Fat Tire Ebikes of 72 Lbs each for reasonable please let me know! You welders out there would make a fortune if you could make something better than then Hollywood Version and beat their price, they are backed up till July 2022 at the time of this letter! Anyway, God Bless You Biking adventures everyone, lets stay fit together ! John 3:17-18
Hi Goobfilm. How big and tall are you?
I've been looking at this bike, but I'm 6'4" and 275lbs.
Thanks for the pedal tip! Just got mine today. I'm here in Colorado too. Looking forward to taking this baby into the mountains...
Coming late to this - but on #3, what you need is a Torque Wrench (not an Allen wrench). Torque wrenches are designed to limit the amount of torque that you can put on a fastener and are available in a number of capacities. You will see NM (Newton Meters), Ft Lb (Foot Pounds) and In Lb (Inch Pounds) - most wrenches will have both FtLb (or InLb) and NM scales.
+1 on Rad's instructional videos - amazingly well done. I just bought a RadRover 6 Plus and its my first bicycle since around 1976. Took me about 30-40 minutes from box to road.
Thank you for the video, it was informative 👍
Thanks for sharing your video. We purchased two Rad Rover 6s and assembled them in the garage. The assembly was well documented online and in the book. I like your suggestions about the Newton meter and the pedal wrench. Being old school I pulled out my torque wrench that is about 18 inches long and decided to guess at the torque. My wife is enjoying the bike she actually asked me to go riding today, that was a first. Again thanks for the video.
Tip on how to get one out of the box. open the top, locate which side the rear wheel is on, tip the box so its vertical, and the rear wheel is on the bottom. Grab the seat post, and pull the bike out, push the box away.
It's way easier to tilt your box up, than it is to lift the bike out. Once the bike is free of the box, you can set the front end down with minimal effort.
or just split the box open around the bike?
@@edwardcote1331 True words, that is easier. Rad bikes come with a 14 day 10 mile return policy, if you think there is a possibility you'll be returning the bike I'd keep the box intact.
Great vid! I have the Rad Runner and love it! I'm looking forward to your review video of the Rover, keep up the good work!
thanks! I appreciate it! What's the bike in your photo?
@@WeTriedIt That's my Camp Scrambler. After I got my Rad Runner I loved it so much I wanted to buy a 2nd e-bike but one with gears and front suspension. Almost pulled the trigger on the Rad Mini 'til I saw the Scrambler on sale for the same price, but with bigger battery and motor! It's fun but since I put the 35a controller in the RR, it now has more power than the Scrambler!!!!
Great video! Thanks for sharing your observations. You are dead on about getting a better Allen wrench. Some of my observations to add to yours:
-- Put the bike in Mode 1 assist the first time you ride it, and get used to twisting a little throttle to get going; but don't play with throttle if you are not seated on the bike (sounds stupid, I know, but I saw someone almost get injured)
-- To turn on the headlights, press and hold "Mode" and the "Up" arrow. This is in the manual, but you have to search for it.
-- Order bike grease before you assemble, as you need to lubricate the seat stem and the peddles
-- You can use scissors or pliers to cut all the zip ties during assembly, but the recommended flat cutters work best. They are $10 from Amazon.
-- You are correct about feeling a little too invincible, be careful. You may find yourself doing things you would never do on a traditional bike, like pulling out into on coming traffic where you could not do this with a traditional bike, or going too fast on bike lanes where there are trees or other obstacles.
-- If you want certain Rad Power accessories, order them the minute they are in stock. They are FREQUENTLY out of stock of the most desirable items (racks & baskets), and you may wait weeks or months before they are in stock again.
I ride my RAD Expand 5 about twice a week, pretty much entirely on the beach where I live, on the Oregon coast. This bike does an amazing job in the sand but I only get about 9 miles on the beach before I've lost the first 2 bars, at which point I turn around and head back. By the time I get home, I've lost the 3rd bar but that's as far as I've ever gone. I have noticed a substantial loss of torque as each bar disappears so having a second battery installed would be a big plus, not just for range but for maintaining power and speed on a shorter or standard ride. I've seen no issues at all driving it through freshwater streams up to a foot deep, as well as through the salt water along the coastline. I've had mine for about six months and have put a little over 200 miles of beach riding on it and everything is still working perfectly. I just keep the mechanicals lubed and hose it off after each ride. I run the tires at 15 psi and have added a real thumb throttle which I feel is a vast improvement over the lame twist throttle that comes on these bikes. I also recently upgrade to a suspension seat post which I thought was hokey before I bought it but wanted to try it out and surprisingly it works really well. You just have to adjust the tension so that it does not compress at all when you sit on the seat, only when you hit bumps. This is the perfect amount of compression, otherwise, you'll be bouncing up and down all over the place and it is really distracting.
Hey, I just came across this new project called freebeat's Morph 2-in-1 e-Bike and it seems pretty cool. One outstanding feature is that it can be charged when you apply indoor mode! With its brushless 750W motor, it delivers impressive torque and reaches a top speed of 20mph. Plus, it has front suspension and puncture-resistant fat tires for a smooth ride in any condition. The Morph eBike also has a Smart Saddle Detection+ feature that helps you achieve fitness goals. I think this e-bike offers a unique blend of fitness and technology, don't you think?
Awesome video! Thanks!
Great presentation!! helpful to know the potential problems and what u like about it. Thanks.
Great review really thinking about purchasing one for myself.
Awesome! Full review coming soon!
You will not be disappointed in the Rad Ebikes. I did allot of research and this company put together the best quality Ebikes for the money.
Good video. I also live in foco and just got a radrunner and a radrover and love these bikes. See you on the trails
Awesome! Hope to see you on the trails!
Loved the video. FoCo has amazing bike trails so I imagine that you're having a lot of fun. I get my Rad Bike on Saturday.
Thanks man! What one are you getting?
@@WeTriedIt I just bought the Rad City 4. Now Im researching accessories.
Nice thing about RadRover‘s is they’re perfect for upgrading👍 I put a true 750 motor on mine easy job, a new controller, two 52 V 21 amp hour batteries, controlled by a Date X 2 from England that manages and sips from each battery increasing your range even more. Very few bikes have the space or means to upgrade but RadRover‘s do.
I've had mine a summer now . 100 or so. Klm. 🇨🇦 . No worries. Charged once
Thanks for the vid. Have 2 arriving beginning of next week. Hoping to be able to make them foldable for storing on my sailboat
I'd like to see the foldable conversion!
Flip large, heavy boxes upside down, open and lift the box off. :-) Most don't really need to be flipped before opening. Do it near a wall to help prevent tipping.
I just took my Rad Rover 6 Plus out for 2 hours today. I live in an area with mostly hills, some steep. During a ride through a local golf course I came upon a medium in length, steep incline. I had it on easy pedaling (level 2-3) with pedal assist adjusted to 5, and nothing. I had to stop and walk the bike up the rest of the incline. I am not a strong rider - so this could just be me. This bike is a beast in weight. I decided to leave the course and go up other steep hills in my neighborhood. When I was in pedal assist 2-3, I still had throttle, but once I went to assist 5, I had nothing. I tried all different things with easy pedaling + assist 2, 3, 4....but once the hill became more steep, there was no assist on 5, OR no throttle with lower levels assist - nothing. I live over a very steep long hill, so now I am wondering if I just shouldn't have converted my mtn. bike to an e-bike since the RAD seems to be a dog.
I got a Radrover 6 acouple months ago and can't tell you how happy I am with it.
I worked in a bike shop for years way back so I know what I'm talking about the quality of these are very good. I have mine unlocked and doing the 24.8 mph and im on and off the curbs jumping everywere and around cars etc.. its heavy, but its a beast and like it more and more as I ride it even 200 miles later, especially when im buying accessories for it.
Thanks for sharing!
13,300 miles and going strong. I have Rad Rover ST1, same chain. Original battery, although I do have an extra battery. I only ride paved trails. Its an awesome bike.
I've had my two his/her Radrovers since 2016 with a total of 7500 miles between them. On my 3rd set of tires and 3rd set of brakes. Had the usual controller issues; but resolved under warranty and good Rad customer service. I did add the Cloud-9 cruiser seat, Kinect bodyfloat suspension seatpost, Topeak rear rack and bag+panniers with the quicktrack system, and handlebar extenders for cell phone and extra headlight (I like blinking headlights for daytime).
Not sure if newer Radrover fixed this minor issue; but, my controller was set for 26" tire size. Didn't think much about it until I purchased a 2018 Radcity step-thru because the wife wanted something easier to ride than her fat tire ebike. My odo/mph didn't match up to her ebike until I set the Radrover tire size to 28" within the controller. The rim of the Radrover is 26"; but, the outside of the tires is closer to 28"-29". I confirmed my speed on my Radrover updated with 28" tire size with those neighborhood digital speed signs and it matches.
Thank you I am actually considering buying one. I live in Colorado Spring and travel a lot on an RV
Awesome! You should! We just got a hitch rack for our SUV, too.
Thanks for posting I guess what everyone seems to forget it's a three things how much does it cost how far will it go how fast will it go just my opinion
My wife and I have a radrover and we love them.
Awesome! The RadRunner Plus or just regular? I’m really curious about it only having 1 gear for pedaling.
@@WeTriedIt regular radrovers. I think my wife would have preferred the step through, but she loves it regardless.
I just purchased the midstep radmission after test riding one at the radbike dealer here in Vancouver. I was lucky and didn't have to wait for shipping as they had one in the box on site. I did opt to have them put it together there for me as I'm not entirely comfortable doing it myself and want it done correctly. They have a backlog of bikes to put together so mine will most likely be at least a week before it's ready but I'm fine with that. I'm used to riding a hybrid so the radmission feels quite similar but you're right about how much faster it goes than I'm used to. I'm not a fast rider anyway at 54 with aging knees and when I tested this thing a pas level 4 pedalling hard I was going WAY faster than I'm used to. People already talk about the great range of these and I think that if I ride mostly on level 1 or 2 with only bumping it up for hills I'll be able to go great distances indeed!...for the time being I'm just going with the kickstand, I've never needed racks as my riding is all just pleasure rides and never grocery runs or things like that and I'm used to wearing a backpack for what I need to carry. I don't know exactly what to expect from the lights but I'm putting my rechargeable cygolite 1100 on the front and cygolite hotshot taillight on the rear regardless as I do enjoy riding places like the completely dark seawall at night. And during the day both lights are more than bright enough to be seen. I have high quality abus locks too. I'm absolutely thrilled to be the proud owner of a nice ebike now and I'm gonna seriously heed your advice and take it easy at first and really get a feel for the bike before I go nuts and floor it so to speak. Safety first fer sure 😊
Thanks for the comments! Yes, and watch out for Ice/Snow! It can be a little slippery. I do think folks feel a bit invincible when riding these, just because you can do whatever you want - see a hill, take it. Just be careful. :)
Hey Tye, I was just at the vancouver showroom as well on saturday (march 20) they just happened to be having a garage sale of sorts. managed to get a rad rover and a rad city for 1399.99 each. my wife and i already have a rad runner that we share. I dont know if you know this or not... but the radmission that you purchased has a smaller battery than the other models of rad bikes so your range may be slightly less than other models. congrats on the purchase! once your on your bike in the summer on the seawall youll get nothing but thumbs up from everyone. everyone LOVES these bikes...good thing you have a good lock!!! be safe out there!
@@Richmond69er wow!...you got killer deals on those bikes, congratulations!...I looked at those as well but I like the simplicity of the radmission as I won't be hauling anything more than a backpack and it's an easy bike to get on transit with as I live in Surrey and plan on many seawall and false creek and beach runs from that area. I used to do those rides regularly but my knees have been a bit problematic for the last year or so but I wanna keep riding like I used to and the radmission fits the bill perfectly!...maybe see ya on the seawall sometime, I'll be the grinning guy on the red midstep haha!...cheers and ride safe😊
Thanks. Your video was super helpful.
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for your comment!
Like everyone says: Tip #1 should be to cut down the sides of the box and use it as an assembly mat to protect the bike and your knees if doing this on a concrete garage floor.
If you need to return the bike, the box needs to be intact
@@juliejg11 That's what shipping tape is for.
Thank you for the great video. I am looking to purchase my second e-bike to replace my first one. Since I don’t currently own a car, my bicycle is my primary transportation, and after more than 4500 miles on my last one, it became time to get the next one.
What eBike did you have before?
The brand I had for my first e-bike was by Merax. It was there first and only venture outside of there usual regular sport bike line. They didn’t really support it. It worked well for my first. It was rated for 245 pounds and once I loaded up with groceries, I exceeded that rating at least once a week. In the end, I got all the use out of it that could be expected for $800. I am looking forward to an upgrade.
@@jamesrobinson1214 Very cool - hope you enjoy it!
I also don't own a vehicle. I don't know what mileage I had, but the bikes got stolen almost like clockwork every two years and yes I took precautions. Carrying around a logging chain was a bit much, but they had hefty bolt cutters for everything else. At Dollar General they cut off the handles on the ice machine I was chained to. At 76, I'm not getting an 80 pound bike
Hands down, get the Aventon Aventure. My buddy has the Rad and i have the Aventure and he tells me all the time how he made a mistake after trying mine out. Componets and power is a world of difference. The list goes on.
good review ... thank you!
Thanks!
I agree with the video that is relatively easy to assemble IF you are mechanically inclined. I have a Rad Rover 6 and I love it "when it works". Before ordering I would highly recommend that you investigate reviews about their customer service. I would also recommend that you check to see if there are any bike shops in your area that service Rad bikes, especially during the warrantee period.
From my experience with Rad, there is alot to be said about buying from a local bike shop. You can ride one before you buy. It will be fully assembled (and probably deliverd) and fully adjusted properly. You know that the bike can be serviced locally and probably given priority over bikes not purchased from them. Yes it will cost you a little more, but what is the value of "peace of mind".
Have two Rad Power bikes Needed a part for one of them had to email service back in forth several times plus send proof that I bought them from them and when before they would quote me a price and tell me if I could buy the part. Fixed it myself!
Warning with front basket. You will have to mount light on front of basket possibly. So light doesn't move with your turns.
Bought two RadRover 6's.Part 1: got both out of the box myself. 3: Ours goes 20 MPH which is what I expected and didn't think it was scary. 5: As to the pedals, they have a wrench in the tool kit that tightens it up just fine
It can go up to 25
I recently got a RadRunner and the one thing I wish I had paid more attention to was the weight. This is entirely my fault of course as they're not misleading anyone about the weight of their bikes, but I wish I had taken it a bit more seriously how heavy the bike is even compared to many other electric bikes. It turns out I absolutely can't store it inside where I planned, and have to keep it outside. Luckily I live in an area where leaving a bike outside overnight is not necessarily complete madness, and the bike rack is decently located, so after investing a fair bit in security, it's been going well so far. But anyone who doesn't have convenient ground-level storage should pay attention to the weight of an electric bike, and Rad Power bikes are mostly on the heavy side (the RadRunner even moreso as it's basically a small cargo bike). I would only have to climb six steps to get the RadRunner inside and it's not really doable, and would risk damaging the bike.
The other thing is I got the RadRunner Plus and didn't realize that some accessories, like the pannier bags, require taking off not just the passenger seat (but of a pain but fine if you don't have to do it twice a day) but basically the entire passenger package including foot pegs and wheel skirts (pegs get in the way of clipping the bag so that it doesn't get in the way of pedaling, wheel skirt gets in the way of unbolting the pegs). I managed to get it on without having to take everything off, but in a way that probably voids warranty! I appreciate the advantages unique to the Plus (suspension and multiple gears, mostly) so I probably would have gotten it anyway, but basically switching between different accessories is considerably more of a pain than I thought.
All true! These bikes are really heavy!
I just bought a Radmini from a seller on Facebook Marketplace. I didn't expect that I have to replace the break pads. Overall, it's the best bike that I've ever used.
I love the fenders of your ebike
i bought tne radwagon 4 and its amazing i really recommend it if u dont want a car and only a bike!!
I have a rad rhino (Same bike but only 250w UK ruddy silly laws) and I love her, I use her everyday going to work and back and in West Yorkshire we have hills oh boy do we have hills and she still glides up them okay on pedal assist 5 and my massive calves lol. The only problem I have is that the EU customer service is shocking....my battery has a fault I have sent emails and nowt so I got my bike mechanic to sort it and has now voided the warranty. But I needed her up and running. Anyhow good video cheers pal.
I thought that 500w in Canada was low...I guess not. Nice to hear that you are still enjoying it though!
I just purchased two Radmission 1 Ebikes and have zero complaints. These bike are amazing and the customer support is phenomenal. I see two and three thousand dollar bike that do not match up.
GOOD PRESENTATION...WELL DONE...
Thank you very much! Check out our full review of the RadRover 5, too: czcams.com/video/gx63NvDi3AE/video.html
Your front fender stays should be located further down the shock tube. Sliding the clamps down to the rear facing bolt holes on the shock tube will increase the the size of your fender, shock tube, & fender stay triangle, giving you a more stable mounting.
keep the derailleur guard because it also protects the motor wire. it really really sucks if you break that connector
read the manual for recommended torque settings - mine had loose chain ring bolts which weren't included in the assembly video
A tip for you . . . lay the box on its side and cut it open! Then you can also use the cardboard to protect the bike as you put it together.
Good tip! I did that on some of my more recent reviews: czcams.com/video/aCY9pWZgVFw/video.html
My bike had the front brake cable routed around the front tube. I had to take the cable apart from the lever ad reroute it
Nice review and spot on. I got mine in Jan and really enjoy it. Two suggestions first is in the documentation that is on the website about breaking in breaks. The 2nd is tune the derailleur up front, I found it was close but needed a little adjustment. I had never done this b4 but the Rad video on drivetrain made it easy.
The derailer up front? What do you mean by that? I'm trying to learn more about bikes. :)
@@WeTriedIt When I first got my RadWagon and took it out for a ride I noticed shifting was not as quick as i thought it should be. One other thing when I changed from 7th to 6th gear I had to push slightly farther to get the chain to move. I then watched the Rad video on the derailleur and adjusted it as they showed.
It made a difference and I also don't worry of ever being in first gear and the chain getting caught between that gear and the wheel and lock up the rear wheel. Hope this makes sense, if not chat with the folks @ your bicycle shop. I am new to a derailleur as the last bike I had was over 50 years ago and it was a single speed. :) Yes I AZ m old but love my Rad!
newton meters (NM) is just a measurement or torque like foot-lbs. I’m assuming the tool you purchased was an Allen torque wrench. The torque wrenches for cars are usually in like 10NM increments.
Thats the whole purpose of the derailleur guard. It protects that when you tip the bike over ." DON'T TAKE IT OFF" It would be very expensive if you tweak or bend the derailleur not to mention the days or weeks you may not be able to ride.
I don't know why that mechanic was so against them! 🤷🏼♂️ Mine is still on!
@@WeTriedIt because of all the derailleur repair work he's missing out on.
Derailleurs on this POS are only $39. Yep, that is just so 'expensive. '
@@specialist-in-tech
The service charge is where they'll bend you over.
I agree Please leave on the guard, this will save you tons of headaches and cash down the road, there are ways to beef it up or replace it as well! That would be like taking the battery out and riding it around, still works fine,,,,,, but not really In God We Trust, Not Government
A tip, take a razor and score the outside of the box has not to damage the bike, and then pull the flap open :-) All you need is one side open. Thank you for putting this together!
Good tip! I did that on some of my more recent reviews: czcams.com/video/aCY9pWZgVFw/video.html
I live in fort Collins and I have order a rad power city bike , you forgot to mention the ten year you have to wait to get your bike, because of all the orders rad power has on back order.
They weren’t on back order when I produced this. Crazy demand right now.
Lucked out. Rad power bikes opened up a shop here in San Diego. Just walked in and bought a couple already set up👍
Sweet!
I bet you can save yourself a lot of trouble at the beginning by just laying that box open with the bike still standing in it. Then if the bike tips over while you're messing with it, it lands on cardboard instead of the hard floor, saving both bike and floor from damage. (edit: just now realized I'm about the millionth person to say this, but Ima leave it up anyhow. :) )
I'm a little late to this party but you can increase the top speed easily. Go into the menu and the first or second setting I believe it is, is set in kilometers at about 32 or so kilometers by default. Take it up to its Max at 40 km and it will get you roughly 25 miles an hour throttle on flat ground. If you have looked around on CZcams about the bike by now, you probably already know this one.
Is that actually raising the speed on some 2020 and 2021 bikes? Most say it changes but doesn’t actually work anymore.
@@bruceking440 On my 2018 Rover and 2019 Rad City you could get into the settings in the menu and you could feel and see the little bit of difference it made. I don't know about the 2020 but on the 2021 they have changed the motor, the controller and the display to proprietary and you can't get into these sub menus anymore. I watch reviews on the newer bikes and I see a lot of them are not allowing you to get into any sub menus to make changes. So what you get from the factory is pretty much what you get unless you want to spend some more money and change all that stuff out. There are some now that are set where you can get up to 28 miles an hour or so. If I was buying new, and that extra speed was important, which it was to me, I would look at buying one of those first. There was something about 20 miles an hour that just didn't feel fast and even if you peddled it just started freewheeling and you couldn't gain any speed. I think a lot of manufacturers are limiting theirs to 20 mph throttle only to keep them class 2 so if the laws ever become standardized at that, they'll be good to go.
@@bruceking440 Yes I've been seeing that in comments on the newer ebikes. I tend to believe that's probably so. A good example is the Adventure Avaton ebike. Was almost going to buy one cuz it is a good looking step through and I'm getting up in years. LOL. But even though it says it goes 28 it only goes 20 on throttle. You can get it up to 28 but you have to pedal after 20. That keeps it a class 2. That was a deal-breaker for me, plus it had the throttle on the left side. That's a whole new learning curve.
Why did you get the Radrover over the Radcity if your primary use is urban? I am looking to purchase the new RadCity 5 Plus but they made the tires thinner in the newer model and so I am considering the Rover 6 plus for the fat tires so I can take the bike on trails. But I am traditionally a city rider (80% city 20% trails). How does the Rover perform on paved roads? Are the tires loud?
Good question! I actually think you’d be ok with either one but I’d make your determining factor be the weight actually. The KBO breeze has similar sized tires as the RadCity and it handles trails great (the suspension is key for trails). If you can want a smaller bike, go with the City. But you can throw anything at the RadRover.
@@WeTriedIt The KBO breeze has 2.4" wide tires, which is similar to the old RadCity model. The new one Radcity 5 plus (currently on pre-order) has 2" inch wide tires and are less knobby (less traction?) than before. If the new Radcity still had the 2.3" inch wide tires as before I would have gotten it no problem. The new tires have given me a bit of a pause in my decision.
Great review, where to mount the cell phone ?
Put phone in your pocket before you crash looking at it.
On My Himiway 15-16 MPH is just normal cruising. I've hit 30 MPH on it without any trouble. Check the reviews on the Himi vs the Rad and You might sell that Rad critter.
Which one do you have?
@@WeTriedIt I have the Mt. Bike style one not the step through. They are both called a Himiway Cruiser. Much more power then the others even near the price. Questions ?
Can you provide a link to the wrench that you recommended using?
I was referring the Allen Wrench and there is this one: wetried.it/recommends/rad-power-bike-allen-wrench/ - One of the things that I'll add to my full review is having the bike tuned-up by a professional after installing it yourself. It made a huge difference!
That uRride seat post are so siiiick!!
FYI: You're not "installing" the bike, you're assembling it.
Isn't Relive app amazing and fun? I like the kiddie seat and handle, that's cool.
I have a Juiced RCS and love it! Power on!
Very true! Thanks for stopping by!
Where did you get the baby seat for it? I’ll be getting mine soon!
It is called the uRider: wetried.it/recommends/urrider - it doesn’t fit perfect but it works!
Question , I’m 5.7” do you guys think this bike will be to big for me ?
I got mine exactly 2 years ago (the step-through version). Since then I've bought the following upgrades:
RadPower upgraded front light
High lumen front light
Handlebar extension bar (for front light and phone holder)
Replacement bike battery charger (the default burned out/overheated after about a year. The new one I have has a fan built in and an auto shut off to prevent overcharging)
TANNUS ARMOR for the rear tire to prevent flats
Surly Nate tires (tall knobs provide better grip and make the tires last a lot longer)
Ibera bike rack, panniers, and top bag (for bike lock, sunglasses, night riding glasses, gloves, groceries)
Lumos Matrix bike helmet (this thing will really get you noticed at night. The wiring on the on/off switch disconnected from wear and is a bad design, so it only lasted a year). I got it on sale about 50% off during pandemic.
Lumos Ultra bike helmet (this is more affordable than the Matrix and a lot lighter)
Mission Workshop "The Vandal" backpack
The Vandal backpack is the best "bike accessory" purchase I ever made. It's a beast and can hold up to 65L. It's the absolute best backpack you can buy for grocery runs. I almost never use my Ibera bags for groceries now. It's designed very well. Unlike other backpacks I've had, it positions the weight better on your shoulders and back, so even when you're carrying 50 lbs. it feels lighter. My other backpacks would start pinching the blood flow off from my arms if I tried that much weight. The bag is also so easy to get on and off my shoulders. My other backpacks I would have to wrestle to get them off me. The Vandal just slides on and off, love it. The only caveat is of course the price, it's very expensive. Last I checked it was $355 which was about $20 more than what I paid for it (inflation, I'm guessing).
The Tannus Armor insert is an absolute must buy. I'm close to 300 lbs. with a full backpack so there's an enormous amount of pressure on the rear tire, which grinds small pieces of glass through the tire no matter what. And trust me you don't want to get flats on this bike (on the rear wheel), it's a huge hassle. I don't worry about the front tire because there's not enough force/weight to cause punctures. I think in 10 years of cycling I got a front tire puncture only once. The Tannus Armor is really good, it's a very large foam insert. It even protects against pinch flats or side punctures. And provides a softer ride. Highly recommend!
I've owned the bike for 2 years and use it for daily commutes to work, 6 nights a week, about 7 miles total each day. About a month ago the motor has started to make a rattling noise which is strong enough to cause the front tire to rattle as well. It's not a huge deal it's just a noticeable noise (can't be felt while riding). So I'm not sure if it's nearing the end of its life or not. I haven't really found any information yet on how long these motors are supposed to last. Also, the battery has lost 20-25% of its amp hours. But I only bike 7 miles or less each day so I still get home with 2 or 3 bars left. I also always ride on Turbo or use the throttle for maximum speed.
One of the other things I really like about this bike is it's durability. It's like a tank. In the cycling community I'm what you call a "clydesdale" being a lot heavier than most cyclists. The large fat tires and tough steel frame means it can hold a lot more weight without worrying about causing wear to the frame or damage. I also like the step-through version as it makes it a lot easier to get off the bike, especially with a tall rear bag on the rack.
Cut the box? Drag it out horizontally?
i rentd a rad bike and tooled around garden of the gods, best place to ride it!
35 Nm is 25 lb ft and if one uses any normal open end wrench it will be extemely difficult to apply more than that amount of torque. Bike shops have been install brake pedals for decades with only standard wrenches. All on needs to know is that one side will have right hand threads and the other will have left hand threads.
Awesome tip, thanks!
Great review. Thanks for the share
Thanks for watching!
If you cut the vertical corners of the box you could have folded the box face down to have easy access.
Really curious to know where u bought that kids sadle! Looking everywhere for one that fits a 6yr old
czcams.com/video/mx1Cbc0VaHY/video.html - 6 might be pushing the limit. 😂
@@WeTriedIt haha yeah i know, she has her own bike though did like the idea of having her on the same bike for quicker dropoffs and for fun
What bike rack do you recommend fir the car ?
Man, they are expensive !
They are expensive! A lot of people recommend this one: amzn.to/3xxHYdy - I don't personally have one.
Buy a rack for the correct weight up to 100lbs per bike. Etrailer.com can build you one to meet your specs!
Don't remove the derailleur guard! Better to bend that guard during a fall than the derailleur itself, and possibly the bike frame (that's what the guard is there for).
I won't... but some bike purists, I've oddly found, hate them. 🤷🏼♂️
@@WeTriedIt Perhaps for aesthetic reasons, and/or _maybe_ retentive concern over the fractional added weight. But it's hard to imagine what functional harm they might cause?
Btw, nice review -- thanks for creating and sharing!
The mechanic I saw was kinda a traditionalist and said that the way the derailleur was on this bike, it was too close to the railleur (Im not sure that’s the right term). He said you can keep it on but can also remove it if you have problems. Kinda reminded me of the bottom retainer with braces. 😂
Thanks for the kind words!
@@WeTriedIt The only remotely plausible issue I can think of is that when shifting up to the highest gear (the smallest sprocket), the derailleur might bump the guard, possibly preventing the shift from occurring. But this has never happened on my RadRunner Plus (because of course RPB accounted for proper clearance in the design of the guard). Should this ever happen, the issue rests with the derailleur being out of proper adjustment.
👍 Sounds like you know a lot more about Rad Power Bikes! I’ll keep you’re recommendation! I’ve got a couple more videos I’m working on and I’ll share your advise. Bikes are so simple, in theory l, but there’s a lot more that goes into it all. The second you start diving in, it’s a giant rabbit hole that’s more confusing. 😅
Use Lock Tite Red on bolts you don’t want to fall out or remove.
So I got the Rad Power 4. It did fulfill my desires. Then I had a blowout in the rear tire. Five months ago now. They have not repaired this situation. I really do wish that they had responded promptly.
Great Video. Another thing that Rad power doesn't tell its customers. It's that the motor is peaking at 750 Watts but it's really a 500W motor. (Just saying)
Good point!
Hi what bike app are using? Thanks!
Howdy, are you talking about Relive? You can get it here: wetried.it/recommends/relive-app/
Wow I'm in Ft Collins too! My rover 6+ should be here next week, can't wait..duh. I'm wondering if anyone thinks it would be OK to use thread lock on those pedals, I've watched the setup video twice and there recommending to use the grease they've included. It would be a rhetorical question to as how you like the bike, I'm sure I'll love mine! Well maybe we'll see you out on the trail sometime.
Cheers
Small world! 6+ came last week (review coming soon!) and it’s awesome. Seriously feels like an upgrade.
There wasn’t any grease included, but you can buy some on Amazon for $5ish. Also use it on the seat post.
I wouldn’t recommend thread lock, just use the same lube and tighten really hard.
@@WeTriedIt Thanks for the reply, I read somewhere they improved the 750 watt motor on the 6, did you notice much more power than your 5?
As I’ll talk a lot about on the review, I think they just tuned it a lot better. It feels more natural, but not more powerful if that makes sense.
I knew it was heavy so I just cut down the ends dropped the side down and slid it out..
Good call. You’re much smarter than I am. :)
Or you could have simply laid the box on its side & slide the bike & other contents out!
I would tip in on it's side too and slide it out. But cutting is smart.
Yes, I am 73 years old and there was no way I was going to lift the Rad Runner out. So I just cut the ends like you did. That should be the instructions really.
Do yourself a favor-Grease all threads before assembling-it’s usually steel going into aluminum when that gets wet and corroded good luck unscrewing it
Awesome tip! Thanks for sharing!
How do you charge it up? How long does it take? Do you use a regular outlet? Does it come with a charging cord? What is the range? Does plugging in a phone affect the range? Can you use pedal and electric at the same time? Does it have an indicator of battery charge? Is its a street legal motorized vehicle? Does it need to be registered with the DMV? What about liability insurance? More questions unanswered than answers.
All really good questions! I’m working on a follow-up video with a full review of the RadRover 5 - should be done next week.
@@WeTriedIt is there a weight limit?
This is just an add for Radbikes
Hey Bro, Nice video I just bought myself a Radrunner Plus, Great tip on the mobile bike shop, Thanks!! I also live in FOCO west side, Do you use any apps for bike routes. Any cool places you think i should go?
Awesome! I recommend the wrench mobile repair shop. The owner is great! Honestly, the Google Maps bike route is well done for my purposes, but I’m usually just riding with my little guy up front. Just posted the full RadRover 5 review here: czcams.com/video/gx63NvDi3AE/video.html
Just purchased a Radrover 6 Plus. The battery is DEAD! I can't get a hold of anyone at Rad to help me. No one answers the support center phone or message center. Any advice? Did something change in 2023?? I've been to the RadRover 6 plus group page on FB and it appears many folks are having the same issues with their bike and the disappointing customer service. help...anyone....
Ebike rack- Harbor Freight $150 - 400 lbs. For motorcycle
This one? fave.co/2XcROnq
As an e-bike mechanic, easiest way to get it out of the box is two vertical cuts down two of the corners, allowing the sidewall to fall flat. Tah-dah! Slide the bike out.
I know... I know... leave it to the internet to tell me how dumb I am. 😂 All good... I just didn't want want to destroy the box in case I needed to send it back. I'm weird like that.
@@WeTriedIt Nah bro! Wasn't trying to come across like that. I was just sharing what worked for me when I was there at the shop early in the morning building bikes by myself. I get it too, sometimes we save the boxes for customers. 🤙😁
@@dvsMONK All good, I know you were just being helpful!
@@WeTriedIt Ironically, I just got hired by RAD Power Bikes last week for their new store.
Well what if you need to return the bike in the same box because there's an issue with it... Tada
I recommend the box be set flat on the floor to drag the bike out . No lifting...
Sounds like the derailleur guard protected your derailleur from getting damaged in that fall... Maybe don't remove it?
~Trav
How does it perform on hills? I live in Oakland, CA, and I work up in the hills...
Yes! eBikes like this one are perfect for this. The RadRover 5 is incredible.
I owned one since they came out here in Seattle and you barely have to pedal up hills. It has a strong electric motor (750W) with good torque (80Nm). Just note the bike is 70 lbs so if the battery dies, you have a heavy bike to push around. It's kind of like a electric toothbrush, once the battery dies, you just have a heavy and awkward manual toothbrush. On the highest pedal assist, you can get a range around 25 miles doing 30 mph constantly. For me, the bike paid for itself in like a year not having to pay for parking or public transit fares. In Seattle, e-bikes are the fastest way to get around town.
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@@pistol80 what class is this? Thx
At this point, my family has bought 5 Rad Bikes, over the course of several years. About getting it out of the box... don't. Just cut the seams of the box and assemble the bike right there, on your new cardboard "assembly mat" :)
You’re 100% right. I learned my lesson. 😂 See the first seconds of this review: czcams.com/video/aCY9pWZgVFw/video.html
Why can't the box be removed from the bike, versus the bike from the box?
Pro Tip: By default, the max pedal assist speed is set to 25 mph. If you hold the the top and bottom button down simultaneously, you can access an internal menu which allows the user to increase the speed by 5 mph more. See the link below for instructions.
Another upgrade I did to mine was increase the braking power with metal ceramic brake pads and new rotors. The bike is heavy and does 30 mph so if you ride it a lot, the brake pads wear out fairly fast. Metal ceramic pads last longer and stop faster.
czcams.com/video/b6wuDOT1iek/video.html
Helpful video.
What is the website to purchase the bike
Suggestion, lay box on side and drag out of box, no lifting required
Aventon aventure, my buddy and I went for a spin and he smoked me on my rad. The pickup on the Aventon was crazy quick. I should have done more research.
I'll check it out!
I want to purchase this bike but they still don't have the rear rack in black color. I want to buy everything in one shot. What is the maximum speed limit on this bike? I heard it is 25 mph. Can you go over that?
Howdy, I had the same issue - except with the large basket, it was out of stock. Make sure you sign up for the emails to get notified when they are back in stock.
Rad Power Bikes ebikes in the US have a top speed of 20 mph without pedaling, which is the legal limit for street legal ebikes in most areas. There's no limit to how fast you can go with pedaling - except physics. :)
There are some guides online to "hack" the bike to remove the limit, but I personally won't be doing it. Just don't need to go any faster.
It can hit 25 mph but doesn’t maintain that the most it maintains is 23 mph
Yes...but it requires aftermarket controller, display and motor....an after-warranty project for enthusiasts. The frame is built like a tank and easily accepts "upgrade" parts.
@@WeTriedIt I was finally able to buy the rear rack and it came first. Tomorrow the bike will come and also the child seat. I can't wait to put it together and start riding! I'm excited!
Getting the bike out of the box is EASY if you just cut the box. Four vertical cuts, spread the four sides out and you have a padded work surface. What's the point in having a perfectly preserved box that you're just going to cut up anyway?
Did anything have to be fixed after you fell?
Nope. Just my pride. :)
@@WeTriedIt I just got the bike and it’s great so far. Only issue is the threads on the face plate for handlebars had metal shavings and build up in the front machining. One of the screws felt like it was going to strip but luckily it didn’t.
How cold is negative zero ? Didn’t know there was such a thing.
Ha! It turns out that is the temperature shown when it is between 0 and -1. Who knew? 🤷♂️
Can Rad Rover bikes be updated to have a rear suspension ?
you probably found out by now...but no. A full suspension bike is a total different geometry. But you can get a suspension seat post that will help a bit and there are way more cushy seats around also. 🙂
@@ourelton Yes I figured that out now, but thanks anyways. I ended up not buying a Rad ebike instead I bought a Rize ebike and added a suspension seat post. I also changed the settings from 32 km/hr - 57 km/ hr, as Rize gives instructions on how to do it , and your warranty is still good up to 1 yr.
@@asoka2000 That is awesome Asoka! I bought a Rad Expand 5, scheduled delivery is this coming Monday. I complained to them a little bit about the information they sent me regarding shipping and set up and I got some money refunded. That smoothed things over a little bit and now it should be here in a day or two. 🙂