How many RPM can a stock rod handle ?

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  • čas přidán 8. 09. 2023
  • How many RPM can a stock rod handle ?
    Installed a 24MM flat slide carburetor, billet flywheel, and removed the governor on the Tillotson 212-powered Motovox minibike to see how much RPM the stock rod could handle.
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Komentáře • 99

  • @petebovenzi8119
    @petebovenzi8119 Před 10 měsíci +9

    You make it look so easy. I admire your skill. Hot looking scooter right there.

    • @Spacecruizer203
      @Spacecruizer203 Před 10 měsíci +2

      I think he pauses the scene and then the minibike expert comes in and does all the Magic 🎩✨️

    • @user-cb2rq8iy9x
      @user-cb2rq8iy9x Před 10 měsíci +2

      This comment seems like you wanted to hate on mini bikes but wanted to acknowledge the work. If you own any mini bikes just give em away because in your eyes they're scooters. I've never seen a mini scooter. Scooters and not just some alllll scooters allow you to put your legs in front of you. I've NEVER seen a mini bike that does that. 😑 that's like calling a ski doo a jet ski and vice versa. They have similarities and used for the same things but are not the same.

    • @Black66
      @Black66  Před 10 měsíci +3

      @@Spacecruizer203 Yes! That is exactly what happens!! You notice I don't show my face in the scene...

    • @Spacecruizer203
      @Spacecruizer203 Před 10 měsíci

      @@Black66 🎩✨️

    • @petebovenzi8119
      @petebovenzi8119 Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@Spacecruizer203hahahaha. Plausible theory indeed but doubtful

  • @304Goons
    @304Goons Před 10 měsíci +1

    thank you for the knowledge it saves a lot of people's engines.

  • @Perc30-
    @Perc30- Před 10 měsíci +1

    I love your videos man they are so helpful

  • @user-dd1ts8sy9w
    @user-dd1ts8sy9w Před 10 měsíci

    I apologize this is off topic, I love your videos.

  • @hellheart1993
    @hellheart1993 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Thanks for all the help this is awesome 😎 that gas tank too😎

    • @Black66
      @Black66  Před 10 měsíci +1

      Thanks for watching the videos !

  • @mr03mach12
    @mr03mach12 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Another great video 👍🏻

    • @Black66
      @Black66  Před 10 měsíci

      Thank you! Thanks for watching the videos!

  • @dannymccullagh8211
    @dannymccullagh8211 Před 10 měsíci +1

    You're still my favorite mini by channel

    • @Black66
      @Black66  Před 10 měsíci

      Thanks! Appreciate you watching the videos.

  • @racerothery2716
    @racerothery2716 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Appreciate your videos my brotha

    • @Black66
      @Black66  Před 10 měsíci

      I appreciate you watching the videos. Thanks!

    • @racerothery2716
      @racerothery2716 Před 9 měsíci +1

      Are you kidding brother! I was so inspired by your videos that I went out and bought a Mudstar 200 bike and a custom custom casted 72mm small block and then also bought a stage 3 head and then accidentally bought 1.2 ratio rockers with a GPS 285 cam and a 59mm stroker crank. Its my first build so I made sure to get every single billet part I could afford..side cover included. I now have to build to all up and put it in my Mudstar200 so I can take that 196 it came with and make it into a long stoke monster for my daughters blown 105cc monster moto replacement. Any advise?? 😂😂

    • @Black66
      @Black66  Před 9 měsíci

      Awesome! It sounds like You're already doing what I try and do. Have fun with this stuff .👍👍 @@racerothery2716

    • @racerothery2716
      @racerothery2716 Před 9 měsíci

      Ok well as long as I can have you ask that handsome mini bike expert questions for me when I’m stumped. You got an email you give out? If you post it then delete it it will still be in my email but on CZcams comments anymore. Anyway god bless bro i appreciate ya.

    • @racerothery2716
      @racerothery2716 Před 9 měsíci

      Like right now I’m losing my mind because I went to do a front suspension swap do to a bold breaking off deep in my bar mount in the actual forks triple tree and when I bought a new one I put it together to find out it’s not for mini bike size rims so I kept the shocks but I need a triple tree that is wide enough.. any links that don’t take you to $400-1000 triple trees?

  • @moecashsmith
    @moecashsmith Před 10 měsíci

    Appreciate all the info u post would love to ride where u test down in cincy the pot holes a take u out on some streets

  • @andrewkuhtz
    @andrewkuhtz Před 10 měsíci +7

    Be interesting to see how long the rod lasts lol…my mild build predator 224 test motor still has the stock rod in it with all the other good parts. Its been over 6,000 rpms so far for about 12 1/8 mile passes. I did shim the crankshaft so theres very minimal play…So far so good. Everytime you run it you flip a coin🤣

  • @user-dd1ts8sy9w
    @user-dd1ts8sy9w Před 10 měsíci +1

    Thank you so much for your videos , You showed a split tooth sprocket., When I am riding around the hood I use a sixty Tooth, In the country I will pull over and put a fifty tooth on, I love my Tillerson 212.

  • @nickrupp2336
    @nickrupp2336 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Have you ever thought of doing something like a saltlake speed demon type of build ? That seems like it would be right up your alley.

  • @acunit1639
    @acunit1639 Před 10 měsíci +1

    You and Richard Holdner would make a great team. He's basically the engine guy of what you're doing

    • @zenithskull
      @zenithskull Před 3 měsíci

      Two different leagues. This guy is good at building these small engines, but Richard use to design engine components .

  • @Spacecruizer203
    @Spacecruizer203 Před 10 měsíci +2

    I'm running a 130 main top position on the needle with the clip if I put the clip down it starts poping getting too rich its perfect how I have it with my custom oo7 silencer kit but man those Zbars are so sick

  • @Leveluplivin
    @Leveluplivin Před 10 měsíci

    @black66 on my 224 build to staged 2. Which push rods to go with if i wanna go a little over 8,000 rpms??

  • @JessyViduya
    @JessyViduya Před 10 měsíci +1

    Hey man I just got the coleman b100 from Sportsmans I love it! I'm looking for a cheap new motor build, new tensioner. I want the thing running beautifully any tips I want the motor to bolt right in

    • @Black66
      @Black66  Před 10 měsíci +1

      Check out the Coleman playlist .

  • @Rprez04-u6t
    @Rprez04-u6t Před 10 měsíci

    Where can I buy one that goes 70 miles per hour do you got a website

  • @midwestcrappieman7796
    @midwestcrappieman7796 Před 10 měsíci +1

    What app do you use for recording speed if you don’t mind? Love your videos man FRFR

    • @Black66
      @Black66  Před 10 měsíci +1

      Thanks! I use digiHUD on the phone for speed and a Dragy performance meter for 0 to 30

  • @Wreaps
    @Wreaps Před 10 měsíci +3

    I get nervous even revving mine high man I care about these engines too much

  • @I9minibikeride
    @I9minibikeride Před 10 měsíci +1

    How do you fix the valve float problem?? I’m having the same issue with my bike

    • @Black66
      @Black66  Před 10 měsíci

      Heavier springs or shims or lighter valve train components.

  • @TheTrooper777
    @TheTrooper777 Před 10 měsíci +1

    That thing is buzzing

  • @Tyresong
    @Tyresong Před 10 měsíci +1

    OMG, is this going to be a destruction test? that would be an interesting test for the average clone engine, but do it on a bench behind a bulletproof Wall! Do you have one of the little Tacho's that have the wire that wraps around the plug leads?

    • @Black66
      @Black66  Před 10 měsíci

      I show the gear ratio calculator at the end of the video for the RPM. Be sure to watch the next video in the series.

  • @eggrole6804
    @eggrole6804 Před 10 měsíci +1

    What tool is that to hold the crank shaft down while you torque it down

    • @Black66
      @Black66  Před 10 měsíci

      It's made from an old clutch. You can get a simular tool at GoPowerSports

  • @mikesbarn1858
    @mikesbarn1858 Před 10 měsíci +2

    Would you consider comparing flat slide and round slide carburetors? Some people say flat slides are best.

    • @Black66
      @Black66  Před 10 měsíci

      Check out the playlist. I have quite a few videos on the flat slide and carb comparisons. Here are a couple of them... czcams.com/video/ScK99YPGpsg/video.html czcams.com/video/E0znamAby6E/video.html

  • @greggory448
    @greggory448 Před 10 měsíci +2

    It's rough being you.😂😅😮

  • @dabtech7456
    @dabtech7456 Před 10 měsíci

    You can cut the govnor pin in half and the other end of it will seal up the governor arm hole instead of a screw

  • @LordFred69
    @LordFred69 Před 10 měsíci

    any tips to reduce or troubleshoot excessive vibration? Swapped a pred ghost for a 196cc on z x200u. Used a GPS riser, vibration increases with rpms and is almost unrideable. Everything is tightened well

    • @johnnydangerous3
      @johnnydangerous3 Před 10 měsíci

      Rubber washers on the bolts for the motor mounts. “HowtoLou” has a good video about it. However, it may cause your engine to move a little which may cause your chain to come off.

    • @justconcentrate9843
      @justconcentrate9843 Před 10 měsíci

      Could be running lean, if not my issue was the stock gas tank. The single bolt by the spark plug sheered off causing it to vibrate like crazy (hand numbing). Changed that out and was good to go. If not that check for anything else on the engine or the bike that may be lose. Hope that helps

  • @user-dd1ts8sy9w
    @user-dd1ts8sy9w Před 10 měsíci

    What is the best way to keep a chain maintained? Oil are not too oil. R spray lubricant. I'll just leave it alone.

  • @SurlyMike
    @SurlyMike Před 10 měsíci +1

    What is that crank stop for torqueing the flywheel? Is that an old clutch?

    • @Black66
      @Black66  Před 10 měsíci +1

      Yes old clutch made into a crank holding tool.

    • @SurlyMike
      @SurlyMike Před 10 měsíci

      @@Black66 looks like it has indents to hold the bolts

  • @adam631
    @adam631 Před 10 měsíci +1

    What would you recommend for a micro mini bike, a gas or electric motor? Love you content btw!

    • @Black66
      @Black66  Před 10 měsíci

      Either one is good . But it is fun surprising people with the small bike being able to hit over 50 MPH in a few seconds with the electric set up.

    • @adam631
      @adam631 Před 10 měsíci

      How long would the charge last compared to a small gas tank?@@Black66

  • @bicbuilds
    @bicbuilds Před 10 měsíci +2

    Hey bro what app do you use for your 0-30?

    • @Black66
      @Black66  Před 10 měsíci

      I use a Dragy performance meter

  • @999benhonda
    @999benhonda Před 7 měsíci

    Ive been watching a lot of your vids...wondering why you use centrifugal clutch all the time. You've built some nice engines but the clutch is holding them back.

  • @freeradical6390
    @freeradical6390 Před 8 měsíci

    Try running the throttle cable going across to the other side of the frame in front of the steering neck. The cable length will be better and will function better-normally.

  • @andrewkuhtz
    @andrewkuhtz Před 10 měsíci +1

    Also looks like you have a new red big tire bike in your garage👀???

  • @LeoThePool
    @LeoThePool Před měsícem

    I had a tillotson that threw a rod and I didnt even get over 30 before I lost power. Now im sad.

  • @nathanmcguire5557
    @nathanmcguire5557 Před 10 měsíci +1

    What's going on sir I watch all your videos I like that gas tank I was trying to see if you put it in your description I want to know how much it cost thank you

    • @Black66
      @Black66  Před 10 měsíci

      The tank is from Brad Hill on Facebook. Not sure what he is charging these days for the tank. I think it was around $189 or so but not positive.

    • @nathanmcguire5557
      @nathanmcguire5557 Před 10 měsíci

      Thank you sir keep up the good work

  • @mini_bike
    @mini_bike Před 10 měsíci +1

    What’s your favorite mini bike you own ?

    • @Black66
      @Black66  Před 10 měsíci +1

      That is a hard question. They are all fun in their own way. I would say for the small old school bikes my favorite is the Taco 22 .

  • @thesmallengineman4106
    @thesmallengineman4106 Před 10 měsíci +1

    I tried this with my 224 and it let loose at 6600 rpm

  • @0001Noah
    @0001Noah Před 10 měsíci +3

    Without watching the video, I have destroyed several rods at 5-6k rpm.

    • @mlindsay527
      @mlindsay527 Před 10 měsíci +2

      Yeah, 5k is the limit I see most often, with a warning not to pin it for extended periods. I think the Ghost comes with a stouter cast rod, good for a bit more. Not sure on the Tilly.

    • @Black66
      @Black66  Před 10 měsíci +1

      Be sure to watch the next video in this series. If it's gonna come apart it should do it then...

  • @spencerjohnson1499
    @spencerjohnson1499 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Is this a tilly 212 hemi?

    • @Black66
      @Black66  Před 10 měsíci +1

      Yes, chack out the build video czcams.com/video/qE-aznzxMrQ/video.html

    • @spencerjohnson1499
      @spencerjohnson1499 Před 10 měsíci

      I thought the tilly 212 hemi comes with upgraded valve springs a 10k flywheel and a flat top piston?

    • @Black66
      @Black66  Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@spencerjohnson1499Yes, the upgraded valve springs is one reason why the engine was able to run up to 6300 RPM in this video with the stock valve train

    • @spencerjohnson1499
      @spencerjohnson1499 Před 10 měsíci

      That flywheel looks like the regular style not any thing special tho

  • @WyFoster
    @WyFoster Před 10 měsíci +1

    RPM is one thing but torque also kills it. You can over power the rod pretty quickly and in doing so it'll turn the big end into an egg shape or out of round. This will pinch off the oil clearance and result in an earth shattering kaboom.

    • @Black66
      @Black66  Před 10 měsíci +1

      If there is going to be a kaboom we will see it in the next video.

    • @WyFoster
      @WyFoster Před 10 měsíci

      ​@Black66 Wear some good gear incase it blows up and locks the rear wheel on you or incase those engine parts come out flying at your leg.

    • @user-ru7he6qj2w
      @user-ru7he6qj2w Před 10 měsíci

      @@WyFoster i think the clutch would disengage if it blew up, but i have no idea

    • @WyFoster
      @WyFoster Před 10 měsíci

      @user-ru7he6qj2w sometimes yes, but if the crank breaks when everything shatters, crazy stuff can happen.

    • @user-ru7he6qj2w
      @user-ru7he6qj2w Před 10 měsíci

      @@WyFoster I had a crank snap in half, it still ran lol
      definitely

  • @rad34cool35
    @rad34cool35 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Idk bro my stock tillitson 212 with a carb and header and I got a steady 7krpms and it never blew on me I loved it but I sold

    • @Black66
      @Black66  Před 10 měsíci

      Great engine! Be sure to watch the next video in the series. Gonna add more parts to spin it harder .

  • @Dontez19
    @Dontez19 Před 10 měsíci

    I'll pay for you to pick my bike up and fix it and drop it off and use it on your channel

    • @Dontez19
      @Dontez19 Před 10 měsíci +1

      I also live in Tucson Arizona

    • @jakedrew7365
      @jakedrew7365 Před 10 měsíci +1

      "science". Great stuff as always.. Keep the videos coming.

    • @Dontez19
      @Dontez19 Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@jakedrew7365 wait what

    • @Dontez19
      @Dontez19 Před 10 měsíci +1

      Can't have her but use it for the video

    • @Black66
      @Black66  Před 10 měsíci

      What kind of bike do you have ?