Did He CHEAT?????
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- čas přidán 12. 02. 2024
- The echoes of the Garrett Adelstein vs. Robbi Jade Lew scandal on Hustler Casino Live can still be heard in the poker world. Well, once again, accusations of cheating erupted live on stream as GT's pocket rockets were crushed by Luda Chris' ludicrous play!
When playing super deep stacked poker, some of the best preflop hands to bluff with are suited connectors and suited gappers because when you do happen to flop a strong hand, you are likely to get paid off, and when you don’t, you can often represent the high cards like aces or kings.
Luda Chris is introduced as a long time regular on the show who plays up to $200/$400. The commentator mentions during the player introductions that Luda Chris’ favorite hand is K3, and “any other hand you could possibly put together”.
GT is introduced as a tech guy from San Francisco who loves to gamble. He often flies in to play on the Hustler Casino Live stream and is part of the Hustler family.
Hustler Casino Live is a full-scale, high-value poker production. Close to a million dollars was spent transforming the casino’s high-limit poker room, the Crystal Room, into the set of this new state-of-the-art live show. Hustler Casino Live looks more like coverage of a TV broadcast sporting event and appeals to those beyond the poker community. Unscripted and unedited, they host regular poker streams such as ‘Max Pain Monday’ and ‘Thirsty Thursday’. Some of the most notable poker players to have appeared on the show are Phil Ivey ‘The Tiger Woods of Poker’, Tom Dwan ’durrrr’, Phil Hellmuth ‘The Poker Brat’, Chris Moneymaker, Doug Polk ‘WCGRider, Garrett Adelstein ‘Gman’, Tony Guoga ‘Tony G’ and many more.
In the ante game, all players post $25 as an ante, but the player on the button posts $50. The action starts to the left of the button (small blind), and players need to cover the $50 ante to enter the pot.
🔍 Pre-Flop Drama:
The ante game action kicks off from the small blind, where Mike X calls the extra $25 with his J3 of clubs. Luda Chris in the big blind follows suit with 86 of hearts, prompting calls from Dr. H. under the gun with 97 of clubs and from Jboogs under the gun +1 with 54o. GT in the lojack then bumps up the price of poker by raising it to $1,000 with pocket aces. Francisco, sitting in the hijack with pocket tens, decides to call. Mike X also calls before Luda Chris makes a surprising limp re-raise to $6,000. Dr. H. and Jboogs fold, but GT 4-bets to $19,000. Francisco and Mike X fold, but Luda Chris, undeterred, calls to see a flop heads-up with GT.
💸 Flop - Ks 8d 8c
After Luda Chris hits trips on this dream flop he decides to check, allowing GT to fire out a small bet of $15,000 with his overpair. Luda Chris sets the trap and decides to just call as they both head to the turn.
💣 Turn - Jd
The turn J of diamonds brings a potential backdoor flush draw. Once again, Luda Chris checks to the aggressor. GT might be suspicious that he is beat here as he opts to check back.
🌊 River - 7s
After the 7 of spades completes the board. Luda Chris, with trips, decides he wants to take over the betting lead in the hand and become the aggressor. He slides all his chips across the line and announces “all-in” for $32,225. GT doesn’t like this half pot-sized bet. But what will he do with aces - call or fold? What he does next and what he says after will throw you out of your seat! Listen closely to this entire poker video to find out!
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Do YOU think Luda Chris cheated or not? 🤯
You can't look at cheating allegations against Luda by just watching this hand (even though calling off a third of his stack with 86s out of position for so much money is definitely sus imo). Luda has a history of cheating allegations against him and was kicked off LATB because of the allegations. Ryan Feldman is Luda's ex room mate and very good friend, he was also part of production at LATB and is at HCL. There's very long and detailed Reddit threads about allegations against Luda and Feldman that you have to take into account when talking about this topic.
Garret has even called them out over this.
I don't think he did, but I'm curious how GT can be so sure, and if he's sure, how exactly did he cheat? He mentions a watch beeping. Are there examples of this being used in the past? Saying someone cheated, and mentioning a mysterious watch beeping seems illogical and more of a sign that he's on tilt more than anything else. Getting your Aces cracked on the flop is a tough spot but I've never heard anyone accusing someone of cheating because of it. Seems like a low brow move from this guy, then he goes into himself being persecuted, sad. Time to take a break if this is how you act on live TV.
Nope
NOt sure why people are scared of male nudity. He offered to strip should of put that live on the stream. Problem solved. Win 60k gotta show your balls
If HE thinks he's being cheated and doesn't stop playing immediately then he's a moron.
Bad beats are hard to take, but accusing him of cheating is out of line.
The way he insulted his integrity, I gotta give a lot of props to Luda Chris here for taking it in stride.
Agreed. He’s had his moments on tilt on the show before too. He handled it respectfully from the other side.
I'd just be smiling while I stacked your old, my new, chips in front of you
if you know the scene, you'll know that luda is definitely involved in some underhanded shit at big games
Waaaa! Waaaa! You cracked my aces! You must be cheating! Honestly, this is NLHE. Who hasn't had their aces cracked by a hand that should have folded pre-flop? It's a brutal game. Sack up.
Sure buddy 😂😂😂😂 so how much money does luda losing? Cause he can't win playing like this. Unless there is cheating going on... 😮 I know.... Your tiny brain can't comprehend such things. You probably think robbies j4 wasnt cheating as well... 😂😂😂😂
Normally you get cracked because you don’t raise big enough. Putting in 19k pre with 86s is just not normal play.
Yea but if it happens 3 weeks in a row at an owner dealt home game it’s more likely to be cheating
@@knorre111What is normal play??? You mean the way YOU choose to play. You get 2 cards each hand and can play them. Seems normal to me.
@@knorre111 you are right that it's not a standard play but people who play for a living know the importance of deviating at times and this is a perfect example of why you do (when your deep stacked of course.) Plus a professional player and coach is saying it's not unreasonable and everyone at the table is confirming that he does stuff like this all the time. Absolutely no foul play, just a bad beat and there's been way worse bad beats where the loser didn't accuse the winner of cheating. This dude is just a sore loser and shouldn't be invited back because he can't handle table.
No way he cheated, GT just got steamed because his aces cracked
Yes...
It is annoying to have your AA cracked by random garbage that shouldn't call a 4 bet.
@@jeffshackleford3152 that 86s call is a stupid play. No matter what, he put in 20% of his stack pre. he’s an insane luckbox at least
If GT had poket kings it would have still all gotten in and he would be happy. Is he accusing the dealer of rigging the deck? That's the only way I can see this as cheating.
But he’s saying if they are cheating, he’s never gonna have pocket kings there
I think he's suggesting he knows the outcome beforehand. So if GT had KK then Luda wouldn't have gotten beeped or whatever.
"This is not a normal play"
- He says after calling an open with 93 suited lmao
Pretty sure he meant say "That's not even a poker hand!" How are people not demanding he shake Luda down in the hallway to get his money back?
He's on tilt and trying to get rid of his button... and lit $300 on fire instead of $19,000. Not saying he's right about cheating or that he's not a crybaby, just responding to that one specific call.
Calling 86s oop for insane amount pre is for sure a winning play lol
@@jaybingham3711 Because it's an entirely different situation clown.
watch the person massaging luda. He is cheating; she's sending him signals.
Guy obviously doesn’t know his opponent. Luda is a maniac. And guy was the fish.
So how much money luda is losing? Cause playing like this you can't win. Calling 1/3 of his stack 😂😂😂😂
@@FriendsForFriends666it's only 30% of his stack if you take into account the dead money that is already out there ( he started the hand with 66k, and by the time of the 19k bet already had in 6k), so the the 13k call was for only a little over 20% of his remaining stack. Having watched this guy play before, not an stock call for him, TBH. To answer your question, though, he was down a LOT, but recently got unstuck to be up around 250k over the past year. So, yeah, he's had some pretty big swings, which isn't surprising.
@@stringfellowlocke2214 - What does so the the mean?
As Stu Unger said, “All 2 aces are good for is winning a small pot, or losing a big one.”
That was back when everyone knew when you had aces
Stu Ungar is a legend but that comment is complete bs.
Who the fuck is Stu Unger?
I agree with that statement...either you gonna pay to hit it...and if a flop is too suspicious for me you would get the minimum from me..or you can have it all preflop...
Dude is a crybaby. Period.
he “put him on kings” so he _had_ to call the king high board…
Perhaps he meant a pair of Kings with the board - meaning two pair, Kings and Eights.. and not pocket Kings.
Absolutely not. That was Luda just being Luda. Also with the stand up game being on.
I was the appointed, anointed loser.
I was the target.
I had aces, and before I had kings, and lost (therefore I MUST HAVE BEEN CHEATED)
The thing that seemed strangest to me was raising to 6000$ with 8 6 suited. The psychology of the situation when you're already invested 6000, and Luda did not know he was going up against aces, I can see the call in that spot.
As for whether Luda was cheating, I haven't watched a lot of his play, but from what little I know about him, he likes to play very crazy, or "ludicrously", so no, I don't think he was cheating. I just think he plays contrary to what modern poker theory says he should do
I think Luda knew his range well even if he has AA he’s gambling but the hands gunna be super easy to play if he hits
Yes, everyone keeps saying he called 19... but he called 13 into more than 26...
Luda has a very volatile way of playing sometimes, nothing he did was out of the ordinary
I am just a chat pro. But I watch these streams all the time I did not blink an eye when Luda played those napkins and cracked AA.
Im surprise he havent come out to apologize. Saying someone is cheating on stream is a very serious accusation.
He learnt how to be a sore loser from the goat man, G
Don't think Luda cheats, but it did leave a bad impression when it came out Luda and Ryan Feldman are roommates or even more.
yeap that was very sus that he even hid it from LATB
Just today at 1/2 at Foxwoods I had AA in LP.
UTG, r10, +2, +3 calls, I make it $50. $200 effective. UTG calls, everyone else folds. Flop comes QsJd6h, UTG checks, I bet $35 UTG shoves, I call. UTG HAS J6 of clubs… these things happen, it’s NOT cheating.
That sounds like a very good game 😂
@@afish12 it was awesome, only downsides were 1. Dude ended up giving my money back to someone else other than me and 2. He went to play 2/5 after and I had to leave :(😢😢😢
Thank you for letting us all know these things happen. Its our first day of playing 1-2. We really needed that hand history.
@@garrydye2394 :( I don’t have a lot of friends. Sorry.
@@garrydye2394 Can you stop being a dick for like two seconds?
I love how everyone was saying this is normal on a Tuesday, but all of them seem super surprised about the fact he called with 68.
I don't think he cheated, but it's an awful play, which does make it weirder coming from a pro than at a 1/2 game. I think it's sufficiently out of line that I can at least understand why GT is suspicious.
That said, JL always gives great analysis, but the idea that 86s is okay "because they are deep" makes no sense here. It's not about the number of BB they started with. GT made it 19k preflop and Luda has 60k left. He's going to the flop *out of position* with just over 1 SPR. How is even 67s or 87s supposed to realize here?
JT did say some for the best hands are suited C's when you are deepstacked. But literally the very next sentence JT countered this with " I think LudaChris was probably a bit too ludacris pre-flop, with calling a somewhat big re-raise with the suited gapper from OOP"
The fact that you chose to purposely ignore this makes no sense either.
Yes, but it's not even close. It's not like a 55-45 thing. @@boholad1983
@@boholad1983 He also massively downplayed how unbelievably bad this play is.. "this may seem insane, don't get me wrong it's loose, but it could be worse". It is insane and an utter garbage decision.
Who said he is capable of always knowing and making the best EV play? Man just likes to gamble. How is that so difficult to grasp? I play poker for a living and I still like to gamble with some negative EV calls sometimes
@@88mphDrBrown Eh? JL said the PF play was ludacris. And it was.
But it was not in the least bit suspicious.
It's very standard for this guy Chris's type of poker. He makes wild plays like this on livestreams all the time, prob to ensure he gets invited back again and again.
We've all had Ace's cracked by opponents making very bad calls, multiple times.
Jonathan, why a couple of my comments on this video were deleted?
I don't think so. That seems Luda's style of play. He looks for a way to win pots. Whether it's a bluff or hits the flop
It happens to all of us all the time, whining about it like a little child is pathetic. Hats off to Chris for not going off.
Sorry if this is a really stupid question, but when Jonathan Little says at 2.22 that some of the best hands to bluff with are going to be suited connectors, and that Luda's hand isn't as good as it's a suited gapper, why is that the case?
I understand that 87 will beat 86, but if we're talking in the context of bluffing, both are suited and both require 3 cards to make a straight. Isn't it essentially the same thing?
Newbie to poker here and trying to learn😅 I appreciate anyone's response in advance!
7/8 can make one more straight than 6/8.
(456, 569, 69T, 9TJ) vs
(457, 579, 79T)
Further, the extra straight will usually be the nut straight.
afaik nowadays A2s - A5s and even some otherwise unplayable Kxs (say K9s) are preferred to 87s for this squeeze. The ace blocker drastically reduces the chances you're against AA or AK.
87s isn't awful to semibluff but lacks the blocking. you should get in enough 3 bet bluffs in with those blocker hands. adding in even more is bluffing way too much.
I'm slightly surprised Jonathan is advocating the old school approach
That said if you're a beginner in a live 1-3 game, first learn the basics then start doing this with A5s just to get a feel for light 3 betting and see what happens. If no one ever folds to your 3 bet then you don't need a 3 bet semibluff range for it. If you take down pots, try adding a few more light 3 bets to make them pay for folding to your value 3 bets.
calling the 19k is ridonculous
That is definitely a major whale off right.
Bluff 3 bet fold to 4 bet hand right there, especially OOP.
Like Mr. Little said, " At least it's suited"
It was 13k to call at that point, not 19k.
@@stringfellowlocke2214 not to mention he was calling 13 K to win 27K. Which means in order to break even he has to be right one out of three times, or 33%. Then you have implied odds where the amount of money you make can be that much greater if you manage to crack a hand like aces or kings.
@@UnhingedanduninformedWhat kind of IO are you expecting putting in 1/3 of your stack?
More often the board comes Q83 or two hearts or 97x and you're priced in to call off your stack as an underdog.
IO makes sense to put in maybe 5% of your stack, and even then you need a 4bettor who is blind to possible flushes and straights.
@@PhilipJReed-db3zcIt was 13K from a stack of 60K. It wasn't 1/3. It was closer to 1/5. I'm not defending the play, but let's at least try and be accurate.
I run so bad with Aces and at this point am jus used to losing with Aces, this is jus a suck out. Luda Chris plays like that , crazy preflop and hyper aggressive post.
21:48 Proves its very unlikely to be any foul play, and just a bitter pissed off jerk
Can someone explain the beeping noise sounds and looks suspicious to me
Do you think if someone cheats will let the sound on instead of vibration. Luda's just being Luda. He plays unconventional crazy hands.
There's no way to say, but the 4 bet call watched lots of this stream. I always see things dont add up i can say i would never play there
And let's say you're not a regular viewer. And before sitting down, you're forewarned about the game. And you still sit down? That's stupid beyond belief. And only makes him look more pathetic.
There's literally no way to cheat unless the dealer is in on it, which isn't the case. Things don't add up because probability is involved. The deck is shuffled every hand. You are not a poker player, if you are I can assure you that you're not good
@nunyabidness2143 the shuffling machines can be hacked and manipulated to have the outcome of your choice, the cheating can take place with the dealer completely unaware of what is taking place.
@crackmiler9127 Yes, I researched that and found some for sale it's crazy and some many people are in denial of the cheating
@@crackmiler9127 they don't use shufflle machines in poker genius
It sucks to get felted with Aces, get over it and move on
Most of the time when my aces get cracked its usually some combo of suited cards
Luda said he was okay with being stripped. I kinda wish he did actually just to prove this clown wrong. He got aces cracked, it happens.
People do weird stuff in live games. If someone makes a non standard "bad" play and gets called a cheater for it how many players would be left? Feels like the guy is being a poor sport losing the pot.
Luda not only took his stack but the guy blowing this out of proportion gives Luda the image that he wants of being a fish, so in essence he got max value from the hand with implied future odds. The fact that he can show up with that hand will enable him to bluff the guy off AA when he doesn’t have anything.
If he felt cheated why is he sitting there still...? Aces gets cracked all the time. 😅
Luda tried to squeeze with $6000….. and he didn’t want to lose it for free. It was quite alright to bet $13k more . Dude is crazy
Cheating would be a wild accusation
This shit is so common in 1 2 I could never call it cheating
That being said, Chris took that really well. As a poker player, being called a cheat and slandering someone’s reputation is a huge deal and should never be said lightly, so prob not the best to decide such a stance moments after you get sucked out on for 6 figures. I’ve been called a cheat twice in my life, each time things got ugly. I won’t ever be called a cheater when I’m not, I’m always gunna make a scene about it.
86s has a lot more potential pre-flop than people realize. Nobody in a multi-way pot would have your outs or often play the same range. Rookies are the ones relying solely on standard hands as their entire arsenal.
Exact same thing happened to me last week at much lower stakes. Just have to remember you want them to make fish calls.
But you don’t want them to CHEAT. That’s what we’re talking about.
Luda couldn’t even tell if he was kidding or not. This dude was out of line for accusing him of cheating
"MY POOR ACES! I LOST MONEY!" cry me a river.Jeez what a bad sport.
GT should be mad at the fact that these guys know that he plays so bad that they will call anything because they know they will outplay them after the flop
Had my aces cracked in a 4 bet pot by 5-2 suited. I flopped a set they flopped a steel wheel.
Lmao Luda didn’t force two 8s on the flop after calling a 4bet with 22% equity. Dude is just upset. Shit happens
He called him a cheater and accused the entire game of having zero integrity but kept playing for an additional ten minutes (on this video) and flicking in his blinds. He specifically said he would refuse to listen to evidence that the guy isn’t a cheater, based on his feeling. He wanted to whine and was out of line.
This is standard for the guy. He did the same thing a year ago go where he called a large 4 bet with Q-10 off and ended up cracking aces.. People hold aces to long, I’ve done the same thing.
Idk … do you slow down after that flop? I think he did right with the c bet then slowed down. 50% pot bet all in.. you gotta call that cuz that a small part of his stack anyway
lol no just a loose player. I've played against players like that before. It's just one of those hands that "it is what it is" hand.
I’d say strangest thing is Luda saying “wow didn’t think you had aces”. What did he think then? AK? Quite thin river bet with an 8 if you don’t think they have AA.
Overall just looked like fairly amateur hand more than cheating.
Nick with the top notch commentary the whole way too.
im suprised the gaming commission allows someone to have access to hold cards in real time
it all goes back to the garrett-robbi hand. the way hustler casino live handled that situation has obviously undermined their credibility.
I play in a cash game where people gamble and call off their stacks with suited rags all the time preflop. It's called gambling, bingo or just crazy play. It's not poker but u want those calls all day. Eventually they get lucky some of the time.
This doesn't look like cheating. It's nothing like the Robbi v Gman hand, nor the Postle hands.
I just can't see this hand being cheated. The crazy part isn't post flop its pre. Are we really saying Luda knew the deck? is the dealer that good at mechanics? seems a pretty remote chance to me.
Vertucci and Feldman in Magic's headphones must be some of the greatest audio ever transmitted
He will not want to return and there is no way he will be invited back. So everyone gets what they want in the end.
If the guy knew what you had, he probably would have shoved the turn to avoid scaring you off with a King, or a diamond on the river.
He also accused the casino of cheating. If this was a home game, he might have a point. A casino however is highly unlikely to want to bust someone early when they can keep everyone at the table a rack up more tips and rake. If they were colluding, they would have done it much later in the session and they certainly wouldn't have done it during a streamed game where everything can be meticulously reviewed by all the players who potentially would play there. Short term gain for long term losses makes zero sense.
No matter how he tries to spin it, his reasoning makes zero sense.
The commentary when he plays reminds me so much of GodKing Postle, not during this hand but just watching the stream, they talk about him like he's on another level.
I wish someone would check me.
I'm lonely af.
But honestly. GT needs to re-raise more. 3x-ing to 19k is giving Luda good odds. 6k to 19k isn't a big raise at this place.
Sure, in the long run, you don't run into this specific situation, but I'd raise there to at least 24k.
Yeah, bad beat but don't cry about it. Just watch people lose at super high roller final tables with like house vs house or flush vs house or etc.
It happens.
P.S.: I'm a 1/3 NL poker pro on Sundays so I know everything about poker.
P.S.S: Some say GT is still talking about this hand to this day and checking everyone's buttholes for devices.
my experience when you get smooth called the whole way and then they jam they almost always have you beat
The name Ludacris explains it all he plays Ludacris hands if you ever watch him play😂
Why arent Ludas cards being read by the card reader?
I played a live tournament last night, blinds were 100/200. I had AA. 1st to act raises to 1,500 (I immediately know they have AK, KK, or QQ based on the player). I raise to 5,000. Another player behind calls. 1st to act goes all in, I go all in, and the last guy who called the 5K looks me dead in the eyes and calls the all in. I was right on 1st to act, he had QQ. The other opponent called with Q8 suited!!!! Dumbest call ever, but for some reason I knew the dumb caller was going to win. I wasn't afraid of a Q coming out since 3 were accounted for, and of course the turn/river were both 8s. Thankfully Q8 was small stacked - which is probably why he shipped it - but still, this type of play does happen. Some people just like to gamble
That being said, I can't stand when players take a loss so disgracefully as GT. Suckouts are part of the game, its 10000x more enjoyable when you just ride out the waves and don't act like a douche
One of the first things I learned as a poker player was don't get married to any pair.
Once i also thought poker was set up against me after a bad run that hasnt happened in 10 years of game, but what GT is doing is really acusing not Luda Chris but Hustler's and its potential connections with Luda to set up hands, i think he's just running very bad and having a very very unlucky situations that led to that assumptions
The more suspicious thing is Nick walking off stream the next time Luda played and he made a very loose call when usually a nit. Now I am not saying Luda cheated the last time he was on the show. I am saying I suspect many of these players just share the winnings later off stream and it is a show for certain players. Which of this is the case sorta makes the game less to me. I don’t have any evidence this happens later.
He can be upset and go full tilt. But once you accuse someone of cheating, using evidence of this hand and Airball’s 44, you better bring receipts or be prepared to have your reputation destroyed.
he thinks he was cheated but still stuck around? 😅 “I’m actually not going to play tomorrow” Why are you still playing _right now?_ Pretty sure this guy was just pissed he lost his kid’s college money and was angling for a rebate from the hosts
anyone who thinks Luda Chris is cheating clearly doesn't play a lot of poker. aces get cracked by suited connectors and one gappers all the time. its literally part of the game, GT is a crybaby and needs to learn how to take a loss like a grown man.
His own massage lady or the poker lounges? If she knew something, she could’ve relayed it through touch
You nailed it
The very very deep stack angle is out the window when the guy with aces makes it 19 k
I'm pretty sure if I was cheating and new he had aces and the other dude had tens, I would fold 68 suited preflop and oddly enough 68 is my hand. I love 68, especially suited.
If a dude in his 50’s wants smoke, he can get smoke. Insulting my play is one thing. Insulting my integrity is different. Hopefully he calmed down and apologized.
It is more suspicious that the very next show Hustler featured him on he played many hands liberally and also hit. It was almost as if Hustler was attempting to make a point Luda plays like this all the time and hits like this all the time. My opinion.
he accusing luda of being a time traveller
like, luda can quick save and quick load at any time to redraw the flop
Why would he 3 bet and risk being 4 bet if he knew? Also he’d want the others to see that flop too.
Give the boy a soother, wow, way out of line
When I first started playing poker, I cold called a 4 bet with K9 suited and flopped trip nines. Unlike luda, my first run up didn’t take me to the high stakes. But they didn’t wanna search my butthole for a vibrating butt plug, I just got called bad. 😢
Would have to class ludacris as maniac for this play not just loose splashy. Calling 380 bb 4bet with 8h6h? Wtf?
I have no idea who Luda Chris is and i'm just a micro stakes regular. If player calls big 4bet with a 86s out of position, he is not just a fish, he is a fat golden goose everyone would be happy to play with. He plays every second hand and bluffs every third one. But if Luda Chris is a competent player, i could believe that something was wrong with a dealer.
I'm super practiced in understanding body language and seeing what most people don't see is how I make my living , I noticed right away that the man who called 86 off is 💯 not Ludacris the rapper
GT was tilted before the hand already. That said, people play crazy hands for big money in HCL.
The thing that got my attetion, Dealer change right after the hand!! Jonathan you missed that! and that's make it even weird!
No way he cheated. Guy just mad his pocket AA gets cracked LMFAO.... 8/6 suited is a prefect hand to call with in a cash game to bust hands like AA KK QQ etc... Dude just cant lay down pocket AA's . Look i know pocket AA is the best hand in poker . But they get cracked all the time . Not that damn hard to fold .
It's the best hand in poker....PF.
@@padenbang7375 and gets cracked 20% of the time, give or take a little.
Agree with the getting cracked part, but if you are folding AA in that spot, you are torching money.
8 6 isn't the perfect hand to put %30 of your stack in preflop
@@jayurenos seat open. Don’t give that guy lessons.
No....
In short, no, I don't believe Luda Chris cheated. His thought process, while potentially flawed because has was OOP, led him to believe that he had the right implied odds to call (he needed ~3:1 and was getting ~2:1, so he needs to make at least ~$13k to break even)
Just to put this out there a player was caught with an "electric" signal ball in their private. Only reason it was caught was because it came out roughly later in hotel room.
if it was a conspiracy, why call pre flop rather than go all in
Quite possibly in 2024. The pre-flop play was very weird.
Luda doesn’t have a very good poker face. It’s easy to tell he has something good when he says “around 30” at the end. It’s the same as saying “it’s just 30 k more” like hey may as well pay it off.
Luda isn’t even the person that said that “it’s around 30” that was someone else at the table.
Clown comment. Luda doesn’t say anything.
@@pennywise4843 oh yeah youre right. But the way he says 'all in' is very clear he is bluffing. I would have folded pre.
I friend calls 8-6 suited the bowling ball because it looks like the finger holes.
No. I mean he shouldnt be in the pot but once he is he correctly identifies GT having a very very polarised hand. Maybe history or maybe bet sizing etc . Its not nice to see but I would love Luda Chris to keep playing 86 v AA - thats printing money for AA
something is vibrating!!!
No cheating...i would play vs luda every day
Question for gt: how many buy ins to play? I suspect no near to 5 mills..or at least one mill..
I think there are way too many issues at Hustler and they should be audited monthly on their operation of the stream to protect all. I rarely watch the streams anymore as I cannot stand 90% of the commentary.
There 2 questions though; did he cheat? (No), is it ok to slander someone on a live stream for 10 minutes+? If someone called me a cheat to thousands of people, constantly, I’d be calling the manager and possibly a lawyer
Took a swing then got priced in with implied, absolutely ZERO chance of cheating and the guy should just never play poker again if his aces being cracked makes him think everyone's cheating.
Implied odds? He had an SPR of 1, he put 400 bbs in with 8/6 , he has been accused by multiple players of cheating, he was living with the stream owner for years and the shuffling machines can be hacked and manipulated, I actually don't think he cheated bit to just shrug it off as he got caught up is ridiculous.
gt looked liked he was trying to buy the hand from the start