SHOCKING POKER CHEATING: Why Everyone Is Freaking Out About Mike Postle
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- Mike Postle has had an incredible string of wins on the live streamed cash games at Stones Hall in California. In fact, it's drawn suspicions and accusations that he may have been cheating all this time. Today we're going to do a deep dive into the evidence and take a look at some of the insane poker hands that caused so much controversy.
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8:04 is when it starts....this guy takes forever setting it up!
Dave Sims ty
I know. I fucking hate polk for making such long videos.
Thank you!
Ty
Dave Sims thanks !
Just folding AK on a K84 flop to one bet is enough evidence for me
Agreed. If he does that then his stats should have him as a losing player, not winning every session
I'll admit I'm an idiot, but *in isolation* and without seeing the full hand it doesn't seem THAT unreasonable... it looks like Postle raises $160 from HJ, cutoff calls, and then gets jammed on by BB. That's a pretty polarizing move by BB. I could accept a tight laydown, especially if the all-in is a nitty player and with the caller left to act behind me in position with another pot-sized bet behind(?)
But when combined with all of the other evidence, yeah, there's definitely something highly suspicious going on.
That’s definitely the smoking gun! This guy deserves to get called out by Doug and surprised that this pond life isn’t blacklisted immediately
graphics must've been wrong there and he didn't have AK.....right??..riiiiiight..
Yeah, that play obviously loses a ton in the long run. Meanwhile, he's running like a God. Hmmm...
It’s incredibly disturbing that there’s a cell phone at the table in the first place! All cell phones should be banned from any poker tables in competition. This accountability is due to lack of rules and enforcement which is total stupidity
If you truly consider it though, their 220BBwin per 100 hands is only over a 15hr period.
Live poker is absolutely nothing like online poker - most of the people analyzing are experts in online play. However, in live games with big rakes and tips you really do have to play riskier, larger pots. That's most especially true at stakes between 5/10 and 1/2, where most live poker players learned how to play poker at.
Statistics alone aren't at all proof that someone is cheating.. but it can be evidence. In this case? It's only 15 hours. You cannot make assumptions like that on such a small sample size, let alone make accusations and huge controversy out of it.
hes using his phone to watch the stream
NO PHONE IS ALLOWED AT THE TABLES
so why does he get to use it? who has he paid? how is he related to the people running the shitshow?
NO cell phones, glasses or hats....and then let's see how you good you really are, since you're supposed to be "professionals" Postle without his phone is like Obama without a teleprompter....useless (though Postle knows more about poker than Obummer about, well, anything
@@ITILII he was part of the livestream team that put the shit together... which shouldnt be allowed
@@jonslg240 well it was literally proven that he did cheat soooo making that case is useless. you msut be related to robbi
You only look in your lap for 3 reasons. 1. You’re cheating on your exam 2. Your step mom came for thanksgiving dinner and she’s disappeared then reappeared under the table and is unbuttoning your jeans 3. You’re Mike P checking your phone to see what everyones whole cards are
Weird analogy but fair enough
Just stream the tournament with 2min delay, done.
hole
I wanna be that step daughter to mike
Wtf
We've been spying on his phone the entire time guys, he's just playing Candy Crush Saga.
Lmao
Did a double take at your FBI screen name. You got me lol
That's not what Stormy Daniels said!
@@donaldpaluga you actually posted this thinking it was funny. wow.....
@@asdfasdf-xb9wt and you responded, TRIGGERED ❄
judge: anything else?
69: have you heard of Mike Pos..?
Top Fan you win the internet today good sir
dam...that was good lol
Top Fan Epic Flex
Top Fan this is too much
Comment of the year .
The commentators were surely in on it. Folding top pair top kicker on a completely harmless flop is just insane. If Postle had been not complete doorknob, he would call here in order to keep the con going a little longer.
Hands above the table has been a rule in my group for a long time. Never had one person try to cheat us out
Never caught a cheat..🤷♂️
Why ban cell phones at a personal game? If the cards are not being read by a censor or a camera what danger does a cell phone cause?
Players getting together to split winnings afterwards and one person can let the other know what they had and so on. The more info you have on a hand the better you can understand the odds of what you are playing against.
I'm a teacher. He looks exactly like every student I've ever had trying to hide their phone on their lap.
Fuck u teacher this is for all your students 😂😂
Me too. We know you aren't just staring at your crotch...
Oh shut up
Um... every poker player looks like that, because they are obviously trying to hide something. 0_o ...even the non-cheaters. It's a game of hidden information.
@@rapplug139 Fuck you students, this is for all you teachers 🤣🤣
mike postle on his phone during the poker games looks like kids in school trying to use their phone without the teacher knowing
"We have investigated ourselves and have determined there was no wrongdoing"
The fact phones are allowed during live play at a tourney is what gets me. Most venues won’t even let you hold a device on regular table play. Let alone a tourney.
not to mention your hands needs to be on the table at all times. not to sure actually
phones can be on the table, visible to all. you can use your phone when not in a hand. i occasionally record my session on my phone, but its always visible. Postle, however, is a snake
No smart watches either vibrating texts on wether to fold raise call ect. Number of vibrates = call to make.
They are cash games. Not tournaments. In this video.
Stones investigated Stones and found nothing wrong? Seems legit.
Sounds solid like a stone!
This is just like when the police investigate themselves. Just saying.
I would say it sounds very presidential.
Why is stones not at all delayed on the stream?
@@semirgj LIke the DNC investigating their own servers xD xD
That perfect win ratio reminds me of the scene from the movie Casino when De Niro's character talks about catching cheaters "If they weren't so greedy they'd be harder to spot, but they're all greedy."
Strange W A V E great reference. So true
Exactly. Just go out and lose a buy in every once in a while.
Similarly, I'm reminded of Rounders where Matt Damon claims he has to "fold the case several times so it's not obvious [that he's cheating]".
@@Starcrash6984 Rounders such an underrated movie
Terrelle Mills is it? Really? I find it to be an endless pit of cringe.
"Touch your left eye if we need to text him that he's being too obvious"
If opponents cards are being relayed to him, somehow, they need to put the livestream on a delay, a delay of at least one hand. In fact, just ban phones at the table. That'll solve possible cheating!!!
then how are anti gun people gonna call for help when everyone is getting stabbed or shot...
There's a 30 minute delay, it's now known that the commentator Justin, who's also the poker room manager, was feeding the info to him live.
you can't relay something live to the booth, which he should have no access to, 2 minutes later......
"it's so easy when you can see the cards" - Mike Postel.
Either this fella’s looking at his phone or he’s given new meaning to checking the nuts
🤔
@@samanthuh55 Smooth
Christopher Burton 😂😂😂
@@samanthuh55 u nasty Sam! That's what we love bout u.
Dead🤣🤣🤣
I'm blown away at how the guys next to him, or anyone really didn't find it suspicious the way he was looking down and taking so can long!!
“If there’s an angle, my brother will find it!”
There’s too much money involved in poker. There should be no electronic devices allowed in any game.
100% agree.
I'am really surprised he was allowed to use his phone at the table.
that phones are allowed is really weird
you all missed the one that saud that phones werent allowed, that s why he kept staring at his groin, because it was hidden in his lap
Encrypted RFID
He’s stream sniping!!
- ninja
Macedonian?
I have never seen someone cheat so many times and not get caught..
You can not cheat in a tournament game unless you have inside help. His behavior is suspicious enough to where any one should have called for an investigation. Had I been at one of those tables I would have gotten up and made him show not only what he was holding but I also would have called him a cheat and done what should be done to cheaters.
You mean like the movie Casino?
Brake their dominant hand with a hammer.
@@davidclaudy4822 He just running his pie hole.
He was the IT guy that set up their system there.
"We're on the River here at the grand in Vegas."
"Yes, looks like Jorge Rodrriguez has a life sized cigarette lighter that looks just like 44 magnum revolver"
BANG
I love how he makes a soul read when he was staring at his lap the entire hand.
Exactly; we've all seen Ivey actually soul read live, and it looks NOTHING like Mike's.
fuck yeah. When you watch Ivey, Antonio, Hansen, Durr, etc they are fucking staring bullets at you the entire time during a hand before they bend you over and rip your soul out of your asshole... but when Postle soul reads, apparently your soul and poker tells is in his lap on his phone,...
exactly.... and who the fuck puts their car keys on the poker table ? that was suspicious too....
🤣🤣🤣
@@harrysapienn7911 It's a Smart Soul Phone. It has Gigabytes of souls listed.
If he is actually cheating or is watching porn on his phone - doesn't matter. If there is a no phones at the table policy - then he is cheating by having the phone.
It’s called breaking the rules. Not cheating bro. Don’t talk stupid.
@@hamedtrump3495 I get drunk and comment on CZcams sometimes too.
@@hamedtrump3495 its cheating...if they allowed him on the phone..its not breaking rules
Hamed Trump breaking the rule is cheating dumbass lo
timmyboy when you represent your country in sport and realise your body is a temple you don’t drink bro. Full stop.
He's watching the live stream of the game he's playing in because everybody hand is on the screen
The stream delay is too long for that to be possible. He’s getting info from the people who run the stream
Yes Doug you are right even great players get shit out on!!! This is stone cold cheating!
If someone is smart enough to cheat like that, why aren't they smart enough to lose a few hands to make it look better?
How are phones even allowed in an event that is live?
Same reason many scammers and cheaters get caught...greed. The ones that arent greedy are still scamming, they just have been caught.
because ego
Excellent comment and my thoughts exactly. How about forcing this “genius” to play a few sessions *without* the crotch phone? Whomever is responsible for running these games is either an absolute moron or in on it. I’d guess the latter.
@Dr. M. H. This. xD I deal table games and we have a "no using your phones at the table" rule, usually they pull out the phone and you state the rule. So they put it away.. only to later be looking down in their lap and the obvious phone glow at their belly and even when caught they go "I'm not looking at my phone", like bro seriously? I only know the signs because I did it for 4 years in highschool!
You don't need to be smart to be able to cheat
Less evidence of cheating in other games at a casino gets you tackled by security.
That's why mike doesn't play at casinos. It's crazy how obvious he makes it. Lows stakes (less criminal) he only plays at one place, and is never seen at a casino or playing against real pros for real money. Because he knows he will end up dead or in prison.
ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.
~ resident of Las Vegas
Thats because the casino isnt being cheated, its the other players getting scammed.... the casino still colllects the rake regardless of who wins...
@@santiagomagic859 Yes, but if you're caught pulling chips from the person in the seat next to you at a blackjack table, you'll get tackled by security.
The casino's interest in also in the safety of it's customers.
Yeah, and no establishment wants to get burned because of a scammer
His greed got him caught. If he hadn't won so much, so fast, and played in a way where it was obvious that he knew his opponents hands, it's unlikely that anyone would have found out.
A smart person doesn't have to cheat to be profitable
But he wasn't only cheating for himself. There were others in on the scam, and they had to be paid as well. So the incentive was to try to wring as much money out as possible.
just soon or later
Here in Australia, you're not allowed to pull out your phone at the table. Pretty common sense rule.
i think its a rule in general just they let some ''celebs'' get away with it or in this case regs for streams however i think they need to just ban phones as a golden rule.... they have the you have to walk away from the table rule at the casino i go to and your hand is dead as well if you leave....but they are strict as hell almost too strict but it at least limits the cheating so it works..... i saw them call a hand dead after a guy stood up which is just wrong but i would rather that then have some asshat take my money cause he knows my cards
Would love to see Postle play on the friday game at the Bike, would be hilarious to watch him get destroyed, or have to switch his play style to a nit
Postle would get his ass handed to him at the Bike! :P
Electronics should not be allowed at the table. Period.
I think a more reasonable rule would be no phones during a hand. Once you fold or the dealer is shuffling cards or there is a dealer change, then I wouldn't have a problem with people using their phones.
@@Brian-vk1hm Then they can go outside and look at their phone ...Play cards at the table not look at facebook or cheat
No phones, no hats, no long sleeves and no hoodies.
@@acegibson9533 have your friend at the table and they fold, they check the stream at look at %, they message you if your hand is worse.
You're phone vibrates in your pocket and you back out
You’re a moron
Who doesn't throw away a 5/4????? what kind of commentator tries to make a 5/4 sound like a smart bet??????
Lol
5/4 Offsuit.
hes also using someone on the outside to scan rfid tags from a distance. its not hard and looking for text updates
Soul reads when you're looking at your lap the whole time.
The penis acts as a soul periscope. :))))
Totally standard
@Rabbi Hershowitz Interracialpornstein Next level exploitative play.
That's were I look for the nuts.
Good point. He's supposedly reading people, yet all he ever looks at during the hand is his chips or his phone.
He’s picking up all them live tells from his lap...
Yeah, staring down at his lap and then lifting his head up just in time for some heroics in a 4-way pot with shit. lol
He's just flopping the nuts.
I haven’t been allowed to have my phone out at a holdem table since before 2009....
So this being allowed, especially on a streamed event id off to begin with.
I ran poker games in Moscow for 12 years, I NEVER allowed mobile phones on the table, i dont care how much the players scream and yell, its asking for trouble. This came about from personal experience on a BJ table, when phones were allowed, the phone was left flat on the table with the camera pointed at the dealers hands, the dealer was holding the cards rather high so thet the camera could read the dealt cards clearly , this was relayed to an accomplice sitting in a car outside then relayed to a hiden microphone in the players ear . The player was now winning $100,000 before someone (im not sure who it was ) at the table realised, I was on the poker table. This was Moscow, so lets say the player was escorted by " security" outside to the accomplice in the car , they were forced to repay the $100,000 and i believe a hefty fine was imposed of $50,000, Cheaper than the potential hospital bills . Anyway that started the ban on mobile phones on the gaming tables , there were only mild complaints. To me its disrespectful to other players using a phone on the table and completely uneccessary
“Yes they really are Matt Burkeys cards” 😂😂😂
Get him to the Bike 😵
🤣 “Go On!”
Stone did not enforce the rule of “no phones”. Therefore Stone needs to pay back each player in all of the tournaments (after the rule started) their buy ins and expenses.
he could still wear an earpeice
There is a rule that states you cannot use an electronic device to get an advantage.
@@youonlyliveonce12ish hence why it's called cheating
The only way thatd possibly happen is with a lawsuit
Doug, how are they seeing the player's hole cards? Are there cameras in front that read them or is it some sort of scanning system of the cards? If it's the old camera at table format, what can't the players just refuse to show the camera their cards? That then removes the possibility of someone feeding him the info digitally
Nice that the Video is without ads.
This is the most obvious case of cheating I've ever seen... I hope he gets sued
Yeah sued, America i
John Manci no he deserves to get beaten up by everyone that he cheated and let them take all his money and assets.
The ultimate degenerate
@@rolandtomassi3486 Yeah gutted, old time America !
It's also the most oblivious cheese of cating I've never sawed....I hope he gets used.
I’m glad it wasn’t 5 hours to hear this story.
As an outsider looking in, seems pretty dumb that ANY game of poker allows a cellphone or any similar electronic device at the table. Feels like Day 1 type of stuff right there.
The hands you point out where he seems to know he's beat are interesting. 18:35The first hand where he folds top pair to the straight we need to know how much the bet on the turn was. If it was an overpot bet from a conservative player he could suspect that this player has the straight, or at least 2 pair or hit a set. It depends on how high the bet is relative to the pot and the behavior of the player making the bet throughout the night. 18:40 is interesting, but again, how much is the bet he folds to relative to the pot and how has this player been playing up to that point. If it is a fairly conservative player making a bet that's way over the pot you can put that player on having hit a pocket pair and fold AK. Even a pot sized bet from a conservative player who has bet top pair wins at half pot or less earlier, making a pot sized bet could indicate that he's hit a set. The call may not be as unusual as it seems. In fact, the guy with the set pushed all in. It looks like Apostle raised, was reraised and then the guy with the set pushed. This is actually a fairly easy fold. You can put the reraise or the all in on a flush draw. But you also have to put one of them on something better than top pair to justify that kind of action. This isn't a good example either. It's actually an easy fold. 19:00 The 5 K K Q flop depends on the behavior of the opponent as well. In the hand, they both check on the flop. Joe may be slow playing a set on the flop. Then Joe makes a small bet which means either he has the set and doesn't want Postle to fold, or he wants to make it seem that way because he wants Postle to fold so he can take the pot. Postle reraises two bets over which in that situation means either he has the K and wants to get value while he has Joe on the hook, or he wants to make it look that way to bluff the pot. Joe calls on the flush draw. On the river Joe checks. Joe could be checking because he has the king and wants Postle to bet into it. It may also mean he has the queen but doesn't know if Postle has the king. Of course it can also mean he tried to buy the pot on the turn with a small be to make it seem like he hit the set, and when he was raised he called on a flush draw. If he hit the queen he may not have called since he'd be drawing dead against the kings that postle could have. At the river you know he doesn't have the king because if he did he would have reraised Postle on the turn. Based on his behavior in the hand it is easy to put him on a missed flush draw without a pair. The preflop raise means there is a good chance he has an Ace. Ace Jack or Ace 10 of clubs at best where he may have called a potential set on a flush draw plus a possible straight draw. It isn't hard to put him on Ace high which means it makes sense to value bet the river because Joe is likely to call. Joe may think Postle tried to buy the pot on the turn and he also missed the board but without an Ace. There's nothing unusal about this play either.
Forget live at the bike I’m sure he couldn’t beat my local casino players at 1/2 😂😂😂
The bike has 1/2. Couldn't beat that rake tho.
Mike is as sneaky as a high schooler trying to hide their phone in class 😂
Matthew Sawczyn hahah So true. That’s how we all know that body language.
Seriously, the stupid faces he makes as he clumsily looks at his lap and pretends like he's just stretching/massaging his sore neck is pathetic.
Exactly all us young cunts can see it
true, but the old guys in charge aren't high schooler's. Perhaps they should hire a few as they know EXACTLY what to look for.
The host is almost as sarcastic as me. Keep up the good work.
I still get pissed about this two years later. Just ridiculous cheating
18:53
Everyone: He could have Kx
Postle: Well he can’t have Kx because he has A9s
XThentre lmfao
If stones casino doesn’t make good on this we as a community should stop playing at the establishment
I would never play there. Jaman Burton has a fucking vlog called “avoid mike postle” from playing at stones. Fuckin bullshit we should all find him and beat the shit out of him. Politically.
How can anyone play there after this video? Investigation my ass
They're actually running a larger than normal tournament there this weekend. I was planning on going, but now I think I'll skip the hour and half drive.
@@daithi1966 definitely go, the tournament will have a layover for sure. they cant cheat you if you're not on stream.
@@jc624 I'm not worried about getting cheated at the tournament. I'm opposed to supporting a casino that doesn't take cheating seriously.
Can someone explain what’s going on about 20 minutes in when they’re talking about how “the graphics were wrong” ??? I didn’t understand that part.
The viewers were not seeing the correct card the players had in that hand on the screen, the graphics showd the wrong cards
Basically, the idea would be that if Stones is in on the cheating, they can actually change which cards we think he has
So like in this scenario, his actual cards were a pure bluff, but on stream they lied to say “actually, he has a straight, but our technology messed up”
The thing is, his opponent ends up folding, so he never has to show anyone his physical cards. We just have to take the stream’s word for it that “oh, our RFID chips got the cards ‘wrong’ at first, but then we ‘fixed’ the issue” (which literally doesn’t make sense from a technical standpoint, especially without them even touching the cards)
With the RFID on the cards, this could be done very easily. A smart phone can be used to read RFID codes by using an app. Use the app to read the IDS and match them to the cards so you know which is which. Gaining this information you then use an RFID transmitter to change the cards displayed. This gives him the option to show different cards than what he has. I am by no means an electronic expert, but in the past year I have been working with Arduino micro controllers and have been working specifically with RFID based electronics for using a key card to access my house, so I do have some background in working with RFID.
I don’t mind either a lie, cheat or steal in this particular situation
LOL
I see what ya did there. Well played.
Would love to see a quick montage of all of Postle’s river decisions.
Doug your humor is postle-la-less… Miss the hell outta you man. You’re one of a kind and greatly missed on you tube
Miss you Doug 💔
I don't even know how to play poker yet I watched this. Funny wee involuntary movement from dude @ 9:51 Like a wee shiver or something lol
No casino type games that involve money should be live streamed. They should all be delayed at least 10 minutes to ensure there is no inappropriate tech involvement. Also no electronic devices should be allowed at a table including music players and headphones. There's always a chance that someone could be feeding information to the players thru the devices
Dude, live streaming broadcast software has had delays for years, why a TO would opt not to use it is beyond me... Absolutely embarrassing on the tournament organizers end, and how an NBA team can tell players no cell phones on the bench or a suspension, and you cant tell players phone in your pockets or automatic DQ is also beyond me.
Texting opposing players’ hands is so possible and I believe he had help. And maybe a card or two. Who knows. I’d immediately ban phones and have all hands above the table to counter these attempts.
@@optimalpowersimracing6625 because poker is a game where the house makes $0.00 they therefore give zero ***** about what happens at the table they don't care if you cheat they don't care because they are not losing or winning. you play blackjack and try to have your phone out the dealer or the pitboss would be on your ass so fast.
it is... SO easy to do a delay. Absolutely senseless of them to do it this way. They could even maintain live commentary/audience interaction by making the broadcasters watch on a delay as well.
@Kevin Alvarez The house makes money on these tournaments, they get paid to host the event or get marketing exposure. And for non-tournaments, there is such thing as a rake.
Let me make it EASY for everyone "IF HE WAS THIS GOOD WHERE ARE HIS WINNINGS IN WSOP AND BRACELETS, ALONG WITH WPT CHAMPIONSHIPS!?!? Nope only in Stone cash games...
Right.. this guy would be crushing everywhere. Literally the greatest poker player of all time if he is that good.
Wsop is no phone
@Mr nelson dumbest comment of the year award goes to.........
I still work at stones and this scandal still haunts us. So many rumors and assumption but most of us all feel the same way.......
Wild after all these years I still find these little communities that totally live in their own little world. So interesting. So let’s see all the drama in this world now.
If someone cheats, it's actually better.
Wonder when you would appear Dnegs
fucking ded
Pros don't want to play with cheaters, so as long as the ameteurs stay out of hands with the cheater, they end up winning more money over the session with a cheater at the table than if there wasn't one.
dead
more rake is better
cheating makes more big pots
Which makes more rake
So checks out
At 9:47 I had enough of the superusing
No shit. It's like the guy had POCKET 5's and knew a 5 would hammer the river! btw, hope things are well!
Genuine question, have you actually realised anything about him before everything started on twitter a few days ago?
I am very disturbed bye this wut this means is alot of small card rooms around the world is using this technology to have there locol pros stay winners I see this alot alot of local regulars are winners 9outa ten hands very disappointed bye this I've hade suspecions
This is also y I only play tournaments because you can fold so many hands you would normally play n cash games tournaments are we're the real poker is at even Kno game can still be compromised you can just outplay people bye folding n knowing when to put it all in
@@lukadevcic7578 Prior to this trip to Stones, I had never heard of Mike Postle. I thought it was strange how much praise he got from everyone at Stones. All of the locals warned me to "avoid playing pots with him." I asked why and they just said "He runs too good!" It was weird how they put Postle on a pedestal.
Something I noticed from this.
This misread the hand situation. They actually claim that both cards are misread.
8D 6S turns to 9S 8S so the likely hood of both cards being wrong is highly unlikely. I know I’m late here
his stomach was literally against the table when you say he was supposedly looking down...there's no way to see your phone if that's the case...
He's obviously watching Daniel Negreanu's MasterClass course on his phone
Poker god
Fuck the pros
You gotta understand, everything you do at the table conveys information... to Mike Postle's phone
Y'all are overreacting: he's just got a tasty sandwich in his lap.
He's all loosey goosey.
Roy Forney lmfaooo
“Why everyone’s freaking out”
Literally never heard about this. Come to think of it, why tf is this in my recommended!? I don’t gamble and don’t know how to play poker lol wth. With saying that, this video did a good job breaking it down. I stayed and watched the entire video. 😅
Lol.... that's why the machines will win
Recommended to me too....agree. I used to watch poker 10+ years ago, but not since. I didn't even know they had RFID tech in cards and I am stunned that cell phones are allowed at tables during play. That's really strange. Don't recall that ever happening at WSOP or any TV poker shows. Seems like streaming entertainment cheating/rigging like video games on Twitch.
I once saw an article about and actor and how she changed her anti-depressant medication and now she says it made a huge difference in her life. Ever since I read that one article about her, I get about 2-3 articles about her in my news feed every day. I don't get it. I read more about video games, board games and movies, but they rarely show up in feed. Read one article about medication, which happens to be about an actor, and now Ariel Winter is all Google thinks I care about.
I don't play poker. But I do live like 3 minutes from stones. Maybe thats why this is in my recommended videos lol.
"I stayed and watched the entire video."
That's why it was recommended to you. Something in your watch habits told the algorithm "yeah, this guy will watch this, probably the whole thing". You don't even have to like it, just watch it, because that what the algorithm maximises - watch time.
If there's no delay- he could b watching the stream live - or in contact with someone watching the stream live - in order 2 determine what the other players have
Here is a quick fix..
A localized cell blocker at the table itself. Anything within 5 feet of the table gets zero signal. Blocks msgs and calls .. it is a paperweight at the table.. step away to use it..
You test the hands played . Do not tell its being used.. intermittently in series of hands turn it on or off. And watch the results...watch the players.
Statistical data will not lie.
I would say its very most likely he is not streaming to get the results. He has someone feeding him info.. could be msgs or being sent by an app directly device to device. He is being fed the info and it has to be someone there.
This is quickly going to become Doug's most watch video.
*watched
Absolutely baffling why streams would not be at a 5 min delay or something.
The scam is that he was being fed the information on other player's hands by someone in the production crew. He wasn't watching the live stream.
Bro omm I look at aplo8 game so stone they said it's a 30 min delay on the stream
There actually was a 5 minute delay but like others have said it didn't matter because he had someone in the production crew sending him live info.
People in tournaments shouldn’t be allowed to use electronics while in a hand.
Yes headphones and music.
No constant use of tech.
@@elyastoohey6621 or u can have a rule that people who are afflicted are not allowed to be in the production crew
They should put this man at the table with Negreanu, Phil Helmuth etc. and let’s see how he does
I wonder if it’s a situation of “stream sniping” where someone’s watching the feed live and sending him everyone’s hands
There are people in the backroom that managed the graphics in real time for the show- its how all poker streams work.....100% I would say someone in that room was communicating MIke the cards in real time....simple as that
GTO is really OPTIMAL if you know the other player's cards
Thank you for exposing all questionable plays and players it's people like you that make beginners like me feel more comfortable playing
How’s the tables going now?
Don't ever feel comfortable. There is so many more ways to get beat, it just hasn't been found yet.
I want to see him play in a neutral location. He plays better than Phil Ivey…
The 5-4 play might be a superhuman poker bot play, as they play randomly, which means they occasionally bet awful hands and raise to bluff like crazy, just by random chance.
I just recognized its a picture of Vanessa Selbst behind you on the wall! Wooohooooo!
"it doesn't seem funny now"
Now that he’s “exposed”, let’s see if he continues his “winning streak”. That’ll give us the truth...
Wont prove a thing unless he gets caught redhanded.
@@darwinmac4967 but if all of a sudden he turns into the average decent poker player, instead of an amazing, read everything poker player, it would definitely confirm that something is going on. But why not just have a tournament official walk over to him right when he is looking at his phone and see what he is looking at, seems simple to me. Or ask him to show his phone, and even if he refuses, he is at least now going to know he is being watched and probably cut back on doing it.
Has he played since being exposed?
Malek Haddad we already know he’s cheating. It’s very obvious
@@joecoolioness6399 lol legally that doesn’t really mean anything. The only way legal action can be taken is if they catch him in the act or people come out and say they knew about it
I can't believe this is still ongoing
In chess tournaments these days, all cellphones and laptops are surrendered to the arbiter during plays. Same thing should be done in poker games to avoid cheating.
"The graphics were wrong" does not necessarily mean "the RFID misread the cards." The cards can be correctly identified by the RFID but they show different cards on the screen.
That said, dude is 100% cheating.
That would be a cool/relevant bit of info if we can find out if the graphics fail for other players just as often
"You can't be all loosey goosey, having a sandwich, being on your phone, whoohoo! I love it, baby!"
-Tom Dwan, 1985.
I heard Daniel Negreanu say the same thing.
@@WhatILoveAboutMusic64 Masterclass !
@InfernoPS Yeah, that was it!
Gary Maruna That’s the point of the joke dumbass
This quote definitely came from Tony G in 2022
I know for a fact at one major California Poker Casino, The staff pocketed the re buys, and didnt add all the re buys to the pool!!
I wasn't a fan of all these stuff people post online saying I've fixed numbers that will help you becoming rich 💰💰💰till I came across a genius in the game , I was shock at first I thought it was a prank he played but it was actually real...his game is fixed and hasn't failed since I started playing it 💯💯💯 I recommend you all to him on insta Hacks_bill201🤗
With his left hand constantly off the table, he’s more suspicious than Chevy Chase in Spies Like Us. 🤣🤣
that rap god part so good
It was fanpostletic
I find it amazing that he got away with it for one second. He never should have been allowed to use any electronics during a game.
2:33 did Doug make this?
I can’t find it.
The music choice for this was perfect. this video was made right at the beginning of the scandal. the music reinforces this is a serious thing but serious within the bs fantasy world of poker. its really good music to introduce this problem to the public.. I can't compliment the music enough,
lol. So he just watches the livestream of his own poker game. Nice.
Do you not film yerself poopin n'then watch'it?
im with Joey im getting pissed off watching this. i played in a HU tourney w/ Mike at Thunder Valley near Sacramento 2 years ago. it was a big day for me so i remember it well. i won the first lvl in about 10 hands and had a 2 hr wait for the next lvl. i railed Mike's match and noticed he knew the guy he was playing and that they made virtually no plays against each other and just folded for 2 hrs before Mike won. I remember our HU match because of one particular hand where Mike check raised the turn all in and i tank folded. the pot was pushed to Mike and i said " i wanted to call you so bad " to which Mike very quickly responded with a sigh of relief looking away saying " that would have been bad "... we started talking and he told me he's been playing 13+ years and used to play with Devilfish. to think someone who has taken the game so seriously for so long would do this is disturbing to say the least. i look back and think there's a fair chance he had some extra advantage and was very slyly using his table talk to distract me. Mike went on to win 2nd or 3rd in the tourney and i drove back to Reno so upset that I didnt jam the turn in that one hand. hearing Mike in commentary talking about his brother looking for any angle, coupled with the sigh of relief he had in our HU match absolutely makes me think these were freudian slips. thanks for bringing this to light Doug, Joey and whoever else. i think there's more to this story however i dont feel comfortable sharing it here as it is just an assumption at this point - LuckyPuppy
unlikely he was cheating against you there. How could he? He relies on the stream for RFIDs.
Sisyphus you dont know what he's doing
THEGLORYRISING exactly. also my comment said there's more to this but i don't want to speak on it as its an assumption at this point. to which SISYPHUS left a very a SISYPHUS comment based in ignorance. if anything my comment shows postle is willing to collude as i watched him and his buddy just fold blinds for TWO HOURS
Sorry to hear dude. I hope & I'm sure it's gonna come out.
Allot of people who got played are gonna be rightfully very angry.
He would be on the wanted posters in the old wild west with a bounty on his head. I think there's a possy behind him though. Others are in on this.
Whats the name of the background song playing?
What was the outcome of the hand where he called the two A-Ks when he had 5-4 off ? Did I miss it? Only saw the pre flop call, does he beat the A-Ks?
I think it would be funny to see how Mike would react to getting his phone signal jammed during the game. Wait a minute guys, I lost my signal.
Lol
Doug, this is AWESOME. Great skills, very nice video. This story rocks! Brilliant researches
These guys are going down... thanks to you in part. Eye opener. This is GROSS!!!
he doesnt even need to know what the cards are.. he justs needs a marginal player in the back with access to the live feed telling him to check, bet, or fold
Reminds me of the cheating major, who 'won' on Who wants to be a Millionaire, on UK tv. It was utterly ridiculous and everybody knew it.
His cheat : a fellow contestant (far cleverer than the major), coughed to indicate the correct answer. No phones involved :)