Yeah I was surprised at first too. Sagar said now the wheelbase is longer while everyone else is saying that it has gone down. He even said it feels more stable but turning is a bit difficult now. Now I've started to doubt his experience.
You have nailed it in your comment. It wouldn't have been this big a blunder had he not said "that the bike is more stable due to the longer wheelbase, and is therefore more difficult to turn" 🤦 Unfortunately, ALL reviewers have been pretending all along. Zero technical knowledge. He's a good rider, thanks to his CSS training. But he would have been a good reviewer had he spent some time in learning the basics of motorcycles. Do watch his RE Super Meteor 650 video from 7:20 to 7:40. Just 20 seconds... Also Watch "Noobs of Auto Journalism" video by Real Auto Reviews. It unmasks all.
@@NewsXAuto my understanding about these bikes is these are smaller cc bikes and at the end of the day we will ride it around 80-100kmph max. And at that speed I don't think even the most experienced rider will notice the loss of mere 9mm. For me the loss of rpm needle is more heartbreaking 😅
@@cykablyat8935 you'll be glad to know that I had been requesting Bajaj to NOT do away with the analogue tacho. They did try for the longest time as they themselves are enthusiasts. Unfortunately, they had to give in to the public demand. We are in a minority bro 😐
The most important matter is that I don't rely on moto vloggers, I always prefer to take a test drive of myself and decide which one is best for me. Currently i am owning 200Ns bs3 2012 model and it is still fulfilling my need in great condition.
You take a test drive of yourself? 🤣 Bike ki lia karo bhai. Wo bhi test ride, and not test drive. For someone whose username is Ultimate English Teacher, your English is quite weak bro. Anyway, while most reviewers are just brochure readers, this chap here is a true expert and we can trust his assessment with our eyes closed. You, or other regular folks, just don't have the expertise to assess the bike like this. So value what you are getting to learn for free. This kind of assessment and content should be chargeable.
They put in fatter tyres, right? Did they increase the rim width? If no, It may pinch the tyres causing it to feel nervous. Check karna agar bike hai abhi bhi to
Arey nahi yaar, you wouldn't expect a mainstream manufacturer to do such silly mistakes. Koi roadside tyre waale ne upsize nahi kara hai 🤣 Plus, almost all stock rims accomodate a 10 per cent wider tyre without pinching. This one's less than 10 per cent 😃 Also, if the rim pinches the tyres, the bike rides funny at ALL speeds, and not just immediately after 120-130 km/h. I still did check it though on the first day of riding, that too within the first 40.km. They just messed up the steering geometry on this one.
You mean decrease. While Bajaj is claiming that the rake is the same, I doubt it. There is no way the wheelbase would have seen a 9mm reduction if the rake was the same. From what I can tell by putting in around a 100 km until now, the steering geometry has become steeper/sharper. Hence the instability at higher speeds.
@@NewsXAuto change of wheels? Tyres from those designated to accommodate too. More weight at front and stiffer, change in Tyres with basically same set up? No wonderbit feels less natural and stable. Apart from rake how else can wheelbase have shortened? Presume they thought it would make it turn on quicker and more sporty like but you need balance. No tech knowledge but seems common sense. They would have got very lucky to change forks wheelbase and Tyres and kept what was considered quite well balanced bike?
Honestly speaking ive rode both n and f250 and i personally wanted f250 to get some update and attention bcoz i rode both bikrs at 130+ but f250 was more stable and achieved top speed earlier due to fairing , and ngl f250 was a better machine due to its handling and stability overall . Idk why they discontinued it somehow 🤡
I agree. Had ridden both at their first media ride a couple of years ago. Had clocked 139.kmh on N250, and 145 kmh on the F. That too at the Chakan track. Both bikes were beautifully planted. This one unfortunately isn't.
Its instrument cluster looks crystal clear! But one thing, you should've ridden this at higher revs after its first service otherwise it may affect its engine! I know you know better than me but just a reminder! As always, a great video and the video clarity is improving day by day! It's rare to see a vlogger continuously engaged in testing any machine in depth especially the cruising speeds with NVH levels! God bless u for further growth! 🙌❤️
Thank you so much ❤️ See, if you know me, you would know that I am the only auto journalist in India who tries to run-in even media bikes properly before maxing them out. The new Himalayan for example! I even made a video on its running in procedure 😃However, most of the times it is not possible because you have to return the bike soon. Also, this bike was already ridden at higher revs by someone else a day earlier. But, I still haven't redlined it. I will put at least 50 km more before doing the top speed and acceleration runs 😃
Can i put ns200 handle bar or any other, so that vibration will go away will bother less, I am going to buy this and will be starting my moto vlogging journey, so will the vobbling issue will go?
Looking for my first bike primarily for city commuting, occasional highway stints. Should I go for NS200 Or N250 ? Tried the other alternatives in Yamaha,Suzuki, Honda etc but these are the two that I have zeroed in on. Please recommend.
@@hunterx2918 bro you purchased N250 recently if I'm not wrong... So I'm planning to buy N250. Already you have experienced N250 performance and stability. Only I have doubt with stability of N250. Would you recommend me this bike. ? 1. For city. 2. For city commuting? 3. For small stretching like 300km to 400km 4. Any heating issue after long distance traveled.? Please help me with your experience bro. If you are ok please contact me or give any contact details please...
Even my KTM Duke 200 BS6 wobbles post 130 kmph sometimes even when the tyre pressure is balanced! May be due to the shorter wheelbase! And being an aggressive design, it also reflects the windblast a lot towards the rider post 90 kmph spot especially on expressways and the broader highways! Test this machine as well someday like you did with others!
I would recommend ns200 or rtr 200. We don't know how spare parts availability of n250 will be after 3-5 years. NS and rtr are very successful bikes. So, their spare parts should be available. I own rtr 200 and it's a very good motorcycle. I think RTR has better suspension, better mileage, handling and less vibrations than NS and likely more reliable than NS 200 too. NS obviously has more power with higher vibrations. If you are already riding 15+ bhp motorcycle NS will be more enjoyable than RTR. If you want that raw power even after exceeding 100kmph NS is better. I don't know a lot about NS vibrations at high speed. RTR has vibes between 5.5k - 6k rpm. After 6k vibes go down. Below 80 kmph at 5.5k rpm RTR is so smooth that you won't even feel a slight buzz. After 80 kmph there's a buzz on my right handle bar and right foot pegs.
Word! "The difference between a nut and a bolt..." "Never held a wrench..." True, true, and true! On the other hand, here are we, mending even the media units that come for review (watch the shorts on RTR 310 instrument cluster not working) 😃
My priority is highway cruising. Considering the VFM factor for N250 can I buy this instead of hunter or ronin because those also comes around same price range or slightly higher.
The Ronin is a fantastic city bike but a horrible highway bike. The Hunter is a good city bike and an okay highway bike. The N250 is great in the city, and better than both on the highways. So, yes, the N250 indeed it is for you.
@@NewsXAuto yes please I found this one very genuine.....and. Also bring Karizma xmr into picture Karizma vs n250 vs ns200 M actually confused in these and will be buying a motorcycle soon
@@harshitguptaofficial24 unfortunately, the chaps at Hero are scared to give me their bikes 🤦 Therefore, getting the XMR would be an issue. Still, let me see what I can do 😃
The best review on vibration I have seen on CZcams...in-depth an precise...please keep making such reviews on different bikes...this review helped me decide if to buy this bike or not
Honda doesn't have any media units anywhere in India as of now. But I keep bugging them almost every week. Let's hope they bring a unit or two in Delhi at least 😃
@@NewsXAutoplease reply to me. I'm planning to buy N250. may i know the reason why it ks wobbling at top speeds ? Because of wider tyres ? Or Not a good Chassis ?
@@SandeshMotoVlogsis it N250 ? Do you faced any stability Related issue? Bro would you recommend N250 to buy ? I'm interested at N250. Planning to buy now .?
I remember when sagar review first generation yamaha fz25 in 2017- 18 He was so excited and overwhelmed while driving. But when i watched bajaj n250 review really don't understand what actually happening..
The original FZ-25 was a fantastic motorcycle, especially for its time. This is an okay motorcycle. So it's alright if he is not excited about it. That's not a problem at all. The problem is his overconfidence and lack of knowledge.
I am not a bike expert.. in my sense I want to know whether the ergonomics and vibration will be okay to cruise in local or highway.. will I feel any pain? And I will not go beyond 100.. just a normal guy
@@NewsXAuto I did watched the complete video, did you really read and understood my question properly? I don’t want in technical aspect, it is just a plain question and plain answer, and I guess u dint say nothing much about the riding posture..
Do you have problems understanding simple English?? Was this an "ergonomics" video? This was about the BIKE and what you can expect from it on the highways. I clearly mentioned where all you will experience vibrations and whether they are bothersome or not. As far as ergonomics are concerned, I have made a separate seat height video and you can gauge how you would fare on the bike from that video. Whether your extremities would pain or not is totally dependent on your posture and your riding experience. No one else can ascertain that for you. Learn the difference between different aspects of a motorcycle. And learn a bit of technical stuff too. It will help you understand motorcycles better. @@stephenthb
as per my concern for the overall package, why not the ns200 which comes with 6 gear and liquid cooler whereas the n250 comes with only 5 gear and oil cooler. I would like to hear from you.
How can bajaj miss something so crucial during their testing or did they get too carried way with their social media marketing and the new instrument panel!! Does it mean they will recall these new bikes to fix this weaving?
I also dont understand.... Bajaj always make this kind of manufacturing mistake.... Thinking like they are not serious about their bussiness.. Is there who can tell this issue to bajaj
....this bike should have been launched in a 200 cc engine instead for better mileage and its weight should not have been more than 155 kg ( its 164 kg😮😮), it also needs high rise and comfortable clip on handle bars fron the Ns series, it also needs hazard lights, rear view mirrors could have been funkier as well something like the Dominar ones 😢😢
Very nice effort to show us the cruising RPMs and the respective vibes at those speeds. Yes, I too don't think highly of reviewers who love to pop wheelies on all the bikes which demonstrates more their skills than the bikes' potentials. However, targeting people can lead to bad publicity because I've seen people are very passionate about their fav youtubers and feel offended. Anyway, apart from that, you're very right that when wheelbase drops without change in swingarm length, the steering geometry has been altered, specifically the rake angle has been tightened. So while this will definitely decrease high speed stability, it should improve slow speed agility and make it easier to change directions around corners and other city conditions. So please see if that part has improved as that is much more useful than stability at 130 plus speeds. Also I felt sitting more on the bike than in the bike, do you feel the same. I feel less confident in corners when I feel I'm sitting on the bike than in it. Otherwise it's a lovely engine. Would also love to see your take on the Maverick 440, I'm surprised you've not reviewed it yet. Nice video and great effort.
Thank you so much ❤️ See, the idea is to not target anyone, but to call them out for the incorrect.info they are providing, that too so overconfidently. That's what Journalism is and I shall keep at it hoping that fellow reviewers focus more on learning how motorcycles, cars, their engines, gearboxes, etc., work and not just on cinematics. Coming to the bike, it was already a fine handler. I rode the original extensively in Pune at the launch ride, both at their track and in the real world. It was fantastic. Now, surprisingly it neither feels as "quick-turning" either, the reason for which I shall mention in the full fledged review 😃
@@NewsXAuto that means the USD forks are robbing some agility despite the tighter ateering geometry. Anyway, thanks for the long a prompt reply. Do check the Maverick out
@@srinathtg4623 The USD fork aren't doing anything like that 😃 It's something else, which I will disclose in the review video 😃 Regarding the Maverick, Hero is too scared to give me bikes. They don't give it to Sagar as well. Baaki sabko dete hain wo 😁
Shorter Wheelbase, I consider it a Cost Cutting Mesaure. Had they increased the Front Suspension length, this problem could've been avoided. A bigger front Rim can also solve this issue, but I'm afraid that it'll interfere with the ABS performance, hence will require changes in the Rear Wheel too to balance it out😎
No, there's no cost cutting involved in shortening a wheelbase 🤦 In fact, they have been way more generous with everything in this iteration. They just got the steering geometry incorrect this time.
@@NewsXAuto May be, they might've changed the Castor Angle to make it more Agile. I was thinking that as they've changed the Front Suspension to USD this time, so Cost Cutting is also a Possibility😎
@@oshoosho8466they say that the caster hasn't changed. Like I said, I doubt it. But how did you arrive at "cost cutting"? How is going to a USD setup cost cutting? It's more expensive than the conventional right side up fork, so how is it cost cutting? 😃
@@NewsXAuto I felt that the OEM Vendor of USD Forks might be having some Standard sized USD Forks and Bajaj just bought it. Any special order must've not been possible without the commitment for a specific quantity to be purchased. I don't think that they've intentionally decreased the wheelbase as the Bike is already Agile😎
@@oshoosho8466 no no, there's nothing wrong with USD quality, but you are right about the "not intentionally reduced the wheelbase" part. But the change in the steering geometry is ALWAYS intentional, and here that's what I have a problem with 😃
@@DHS562 I know it's terribly delayed. Despite working 7 days a week since December 1. So you can imagine the work load. Guess what, I had picked up this bike on EID. Yes, for the first time in my life, I worked on Eid. Sharing because I value my viewers. A bit more wait, and I will post the review 😃
Some reviewers are talking about not suitable frame,disconnected feeling with the bike and not confidence inspiring at curves etc..I think it feels like they are purposely down playing this otherwise perfect vfm bike..can you also talk about this if these claims are true or false
@@amrutpat12 Sure. Without pasting links (as YT won't allow you to do that), can you please share the names of those reviewers/channels? I WILL have to watch their videos and if I find they are wrong about anything, I will make a separate video on that. Like I did on the Speed 400 on the other channel.
@@NewsXAuto biker nil.dri in his this bike is not for everyone video and mot..i.n in their n250 review were the were the one’s who picked out these cons
Sir can you point one bike for a first bike between n250,rtr 200 and sf 250(little out of budget and vibrarions complaints post 6k kms).? Needs are 2l price litlle extensions is possible and 20 ps or more power and occasional touring.
@@NewsXAuto thankyou for your reply reply shiraz sir but after watching your video I'm worried about the wobble or lack of confidence at speeds which the other two bikes are planted and inspire confidence..is it a deal breaker sir ? The package is very well rounded for n250 and I was set on it but I hate bikes with wobbles it shows lack of engineering..your thoughts sir? Also for 2.2l I.e 20k discount I'm getting new 2023 mfg model sf250..does it mean that an update is around the corner and stock clearance is going on the dealer said new stock of 2024 will come by June only.
@@NewsXAuto may be you are talking about engine reliability right or the quality of parts?? Trust me brother there isn't a single bike at this price point that offers you what the n250 is offering yes that's coming from a 2018 V3 owner my brother has n250 and trust me it is a beautiful machine
how much mileage can i expect? i tend to enjoy the higher rpms and use the whole speedometer i paid for. All the mileage tests are just them driving at 60-70.
@@NewsXAuto i booked hunter 350, you better upload it soon, if the mileage is better than hunter then I'll ditch it the hunter, else will ditch both n go with r15 🤧
NO 🤦 the painted stripes do absolutely NOTHING to the stability. They matter only at starting from a standstill, that too if the rear tyre is on that stripe. Then it could lose traction. With a steady throttle, like in this video, even a inline four wouldn't lose traction. Wobble is primarily due to the messed up steering geometry.
@@NewsXAuto I partially agree with u in this coz I even ride on highways and the newly painted stripes do cause stability issue to some extent and trust me I have experienced this on many bikes not just a single one. Yeah the steering geometry does play a major role but one cannot ignore those painted stripes.. I might be wrong in this but m sharing my experience with. Btw nicely explained video good work
@@salmanshamim4613 jazakallah khair brother. Once again, the painted stripes do not have any affect on stability. Take it from a rider who has been riding since the early '90s and have either ridden or tested every motorcycle, including the mighty Suzuki Hayabusa, sold in India. And a few motorcycles that weren't sold in India 😃
@@mg1721 Had ridden it (and the old N250) back at their original launch a few years ago. Haven't ridden the new one yet, but if you say that it's only missing the new USD fork, then it's a blessing in disguise. That actually makes it the better bike...
@@MJ-rr4hd if we have a good road...long ride..... Then if it can go without stress at that speed it's nice only na. And 100 is not that speed for a good road and bike. Always we won't be riding at 100 also. Sometimes....if we have good road....
@@MJ-rr4hd that we will need in a long empty straight road.went on a shine 125 i was cruising around 60.felt its too slow.not everywhere but we need this capability for those kind of roads
@@Raghu155_ It feels slow until you crash. I also cruise on highways at 60-70km/h on bike. even though it feels slow......but trust me its the max you should do. I maintain the same speed as other bikes in the highway. in usa they have cars with 500hp, 1000+hp. Cars can reach 250-400+ km/h, but in 90% of the states the max highway speed limit is between 112 - 128 km/h. major cities like new York, new jersey etc.. has speed limit of 105km/h. slow drive save lives
You don't understand. The wheelbase hasn't been deliberately reduced. The bike was already a fantastic handler. The shortening of wheelbase is an outcome of change in steering geometry that came with the USD fork.
How do u say like this I owned n250 7 months before update and overall it's better than mt15 one problem is wobbling issue only in my experience it also above 135 and I think u always not rode above 130at all time@@NewsXAuto
@@Blackmarlin.5566 you have ridden the N250 for seven months but not the MT-15 even for 7 days, right? Ride one extensively and you'll know. The N isn't a bad bike. It's just that the MT is another level altogether 😊
No 🤦 Going over the paint stripes has nothing to do with the wobble. Those stripes can only cause harm at moving from a standstill (loss of traction). 😊
another automobile reviewer 6 speed also faced severe wobbling at 130 too , you can see it in his video I thing reduction in wheelbase might be the issue as NewsXAuto said.
@@monishvj5172 yes. The wobble is primarily due to the altered steering geometry. The change in wheelbase is also due to it, but the wheelbase itself isn't the primary reason for the wobble. The altered geometry is. 😃
@@rlbvlogs75 you must do some research before typing such comments. This gent was in his riding uniform while you were still in liquid form. He has maxed out everything from a Honda Shine 100 to ALL generations of the Suzuki Hayabusa. And your ignorant self says that he has lack of high speed riding experience? 🤣
No no, he is Bajaj Comms. His name is Ranjan. An excellent chap, with good technical knowledge. He briefs the journos at first rides. He says that he slipped. But who are we? Journalists, right? What is our job? To find out the truth irrespective of what anyone says. Unfortunately, Sagar not only did NOT do any any sort of fact finding questions, but he went 10 steps ahead and based his incorrect assessment on it. THAT is a blunder and a stamp on the fact that ALL "experts" have been fooling the masses since day one.
Hi I just want to confirm. If bike is on, the display should not show any red or the yellow lights (Oil, Engine, TC, ABS) if everything is fine right ?
What??? Did I make this video in French? Please don't insult us by asking questions WITHOUT EVEN WATCHING THE VIDEO. The whole video is about stability at high speeds, and you didn't even care to watch it!
Yes, had ridden the N and F a couple of years ago at the first ride. Had clocked 139 and 145 respectively. What's the fuel efficiency you're getting? Do share, as the info will be useful for many 😃
I see many reputed youtubers & media houses (dont wanna name any) are saying that the addition of a 6th gear would have done wonders. To my knowledge of riding a pulsar 220f for 9 years now, oil cooled engines domt require a 6th gear or the need isnt there as much as a liquid cooled unit for say. Also on day to day riding conditions in city , we dont cross above 60-65kmph & a long fifth gear will just do the job. I dont understand why people focus more on gimmicky things rather than tractability. Pls do explain your thoughts on this. Thanks in advance
Gear ratios and the type of engine cooling method used have nothing to do with each other. 😃 Those media houses and journos unfortunately have zero technical knowledge, therefore they end up saying the same things over and over again. Will this become better at cruising if it gets a 6th gear? Yes. Does it REALLY need one BADLY? NO. 😃
@@NewsXAuto The reason I was asking this question was because I own a Pulsar F250. Given that the rims are identical, it would be acceptable for someone like me who owns a bike from an earlier generation to switch to these tires, as you indicated in your response to that comment. Right?
@@prajwalshah8249 yes, but I would advise against it. I would in fact recommend people reverting to the previous bike's tyres once it's time to change.
Mein planning kar raha hu lene ka kuch problem ho nhi hai na. Main zyada speed nhi chalata 80 to 100 k andar hi. Wobling issue hai kya aur vibration hai 80 to 100 mein ?
@@NewsXAutobro mai n250 aur ns200 me confused hu mai n250 lene ki soch rha hu because of it's features,looks,new smoother engine and better build quality but yeh jo wobbling ka issue bohot youtubers nai point out kia hai toh yeh exactly kis speed pe aata hai and iss issue ki wajah se ns 200 lena theek rhega kya ?
The chaps at Hero (and Ather) are scared to give me their bikes. So that comparison looks a bit difficult. Let me see if I can ask around if anyone has bought that bike 😃
@@NewsXAuto sure brother....I don't know where are you from but there is a guy Rohit he owns all 3gens of Karizma you can contact him just look for his channel it's a small channel but very wise rider
With all the competition indian brands have, why can they better the performance of the newer iterations over the older ones? It's night time they got too serious. Giving new features is a must nowadays, but performance has to be bett. Gone are the days when they used to launch newer versions with changes in STICKER & PLASTIC. VERY VERY NICE AND TECHNICALLY PERFECT REVIEW. THANK You, KEEP ON THE GOOD WORK PLEASE.
Thank you so much for the kind words. See, this is not a newer model. As a facelift, it's not a sticker job like Hero does. It's a proper facelift with upgraded suspension, TC, dual channel ABS with ABS modes, and navigation. I don't like gimmicks in vehicles, but it's a fact that nowadays we need navigation. Even TC is beneficial for newer riders. The only chink in its new armour is the lack of stability post 130 kmh. But below that, it's a pretty good motorcycle in all aspects 😃
Four out of my own five motorcycles are air-cooled two strokes. Don't worry about air-cooled or liquid-cooled. Evaluate your priorities, share them here, so that I can tell you which bike to buy 😃❤️
Hi..Please suggest me bike under 2lac. My requirement is 40+ Kmpl and must me reliable for touring am not a harsh rider i generally cruise between 80 to 90. I take care of bike. I want bike for touring that should be reliable and not heavy on pocket so that's why I said upto 40 kmpl. I was wondering to purchase this one n250 but now i think..You can guide me better.
No one did a review like this literally no one( Rpm & speed) ⭐️Can u make a video on stability of Yamaha mt15 and Pulsar n250 I rode yamaha Fz and Pulsar n160, Yamaha is more stable and give more confidence in straight road and cornering.
First thing is who is sagar.. And why im watching this.. Wait.. i'ven't watched sagars review yet. Oh shit i've N250 already.. doesnt matter new n250 has became sheepheaded horse... 🧘
As per my understanding Bajaj is using this bike as a test bench for features to trickle down to the ns200. Expect the next ns to have TC and fatter tyres. At the same time Bajaj is trying to keep this bike below the ns series. The OG N250 was performing far better than the bs6 ns of that time, reaching 151(speedo) even with 5 gears where the ns lost it's breath at about 142 143. They actually affected ns and domi 250 sales. With an ecu update they made the limiter lower and now my bs6 n250 hits limiter in 146~147(very disappointed). Needless to say my N250 2022 end bs6 dc abs seems to be a much better bike than this update even with skinnier tyres and basic telescopic forks. My bike still reaches 140 effortlessly and goes 146. This seems to have a longer 4th gear and a shorter 5th than before(indicated by the cruising rpms and the struggle to reach 140). Paired with the shorter wheelbase Bajaj is trying to make it a nimble city bike which the first version struggles a bit in my opinion. Initially I felt this kind of instability too but I swapped the rear for Apollo S1 140/60 and there is literally a hell and heaven difference. The bike goes straight like a missile even at 145. Recently went on a 500km ride with a pillion and two bags and the bike was happy sitting at 100 to 115 all day long!
No changes in the gearbox or sprocket ratios. And the bike doesn't struggle to reach 140 either. This isn't a top speed video. Here, I was.gradially increasing the speed to monitor the rpm properly. Can you do me a favour though? Well, two actually: 1) Yours is a BS6 bike, right? Can you tell me the mex speeds in the first four gears your bike achieves at the limiter? 2) What's the rpm at 100 km/h in 5th?
@@NewsXAuto I know this isn't a top speed test but I've seen other speed tests and saw it losing breath after 138 and could manage only about 140. Now I'm not sure whether they corrected the meter error but knowing bajaj they're probably using the same sensors from the previous bike so yes the bs6 still is faster up top(it's a minor difference but yes when you're going against the likes of the mt and ns that difference can trigger a success or failure in sales in the Indian market) 1. 1st gear 42, 2nd gear 72, 3rd gear 96, 4th gear 122, 5th gear 147(now hits limiter at 146 after I switched to Apollo S1 140/60). 2. RPM in 5th at 100 is 6.5k dot. Hope it answers your queries.
Brother Agr eska stock handel bar hta kr agr clipon install kre to jo woble issue hai highe speed me kya wo hat jayega or agr nahi to kese htega pls Answer kyuki mai ye bike lene lga hun so pls help 🙏🏻
Handle change karne se kuch nahi hoga. Aur wobble 130 ke upar hai, usse pehle nahi. So unless tumhe har time 130 ke upar chalaani hai, koi fikr karne ki zaroorat nahi 😃
@@NewsXAuto Yeah ...that should be done by them on thier own . And thanks for reply. I also need help from you regarding choosing my next bike. I am currently riding Gixxer 155 2016 model (40k KM ) . Most of it done in city ride but from last 8-10 months I am riding a lot on highway and feel it somewhat underpowered on highway and that why need of upgrade. I have Shortlisted two bikes ...Honda CB350 (new one) and Pulsar N250. My usage will be 50:50 between city and highway. My needs are a comfortable city bike which can cruise on highway at 95-100 vibration and stress free all day long. Both of these two bike can do that and I know both these bike are from different segment ( retro and sports) and like both of this segment. Problem with Honda CB 350 is thier availability (nearest dealership is 100KM far) , less service centre and service quality inspite of being expensive is not upto mark. Also due to 19 inch wheel and longer wheelbase it's highway stability is very good but due to same reason it is handling is not as good that of my current Gixxer 155. Problem with Bajaj is thier long term reliability and will engine remain smooth stress and vibration free in long run. (in Suzuki Gixxer in these 8 years I have only changed Engine oil, oil filter , Air filter , wheel bearings , swing arm bearings , and brake pads) . Suzuki Gixxer 250 I am not considering because of its uncomfortable pillion seat(now I ride with my wife sometimes) and Vstrom 250 I am not considering because I didn't like handling of adventure bike (very hard for me coming from street bike). Can you help me choose bewteen Pulsar N50 and Honda CB350 ...
@@i_am_abhinav At the outset, you can't go wrong with either. I absolutely love the CB350s! You are wrong about the handling. They handle beautifully. You might be referring to "maneuverability, as compared to your Gixxer, and that's expected when you upgrade to a bigger bike, that too from a different segment altogether Again, it's still fantastic for a bike of its size, but it can't match the smaller Gixxer here the same way the Gixxer can't match its highway poise and manners. However, for your use, I would say you should save 50,000 rupees by opting for the N250 as it would serve your purpose better than your current bike. 😃
@@NewsXAuto yeah but I am somewhat having doubts on long term usage of Bajaj as usually they don't age well. Also as no test ride bike are available for bajaj n250 can't just see the parts quality. Can you comment upon parts quality, fit and finish , rattling sound etc of N250.
Legends pls answer… For a office going guy who tours at weekends; give bike suggestions My options is Honda 1.cb200x 2. N250 3. apache 180 2v P.s.- need low maintenance and long term reliability
My apologies, brother. They are delayed. I know. But first rides have to be given more importance, hence the other videos are coming first. That said, the RTR videos would be coming from Wednesday/Thursday onwards 😃
Bike is wobbling while you are switching on the patchy line and white stripe line if you look carefully. it may be due to road conditions + softer suspension setup
@@PoweRHousE_N250you need to check again. The bike starts to weave BEFORE he changes lanes. Another CZcamsr has highlighted this issue. Also, for a moment let's assume that the wobble is because of the road undulations or even the darn stripes, that further stamps the fact that the bike is unstable. I have seen this guy's top speed videos on his main channel and no bike weaves and wobbles like that even when he changes lanes. Watch those!
@@NewsXAuto awesome, new tech is moving very fast. cant beleive Pulsar has grown so much better in two decades. i had a 2007 model pulsar which got seized on highway while redlinning and now my NS 200 can redline all day and night along. new pulsars are much better.
Yeah I was surprised at first too. Sagar said now the wheelbase is longer while everyone else is saying that it has gone down. He even said it feels more stable but turning is a bit difficult now. Now I've started to doubt his experience.
You have nailed it in your comment. It wouldn't have been this big a blunder had he not said "that the bike is more stable due to the longer wheelbase, and is therefore more difficult to turn" 🤦
Unfortunately, ALL reviewers have been pretending all along. Zero technical knowledge. He's a good rider, thanks to his CSS training. But he would have been a good reviewer had he spent some time in learning the basics of motorcycles. Do watch his RE Super Meteor 650 video from 7:20 to 7:40. Just 20 seconds...
Also Watch "Noobs of Auto Journalism" video by Real Auto Reviews. It unmasks all.
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@@NewsXAuto my understanding about these bikes is these are smaller cc bikes and at the end of the day we will ride it around 80-100kmph max. And at that speed I don't think even the most experienced rider will notice the loss of mere 9mm. For me the loss of rpm needle is more heartbreaking 😅
@@cykablyat8935 you'll be glad to know that I had been requesting Bajaj to NOT do away with the analogue tacho. They did try for the longest time as they themselves are enthusiasts. Unfortunately, they had to give in to the public demand. We are in a minority bro 😐
@@NewsXAuto That's sad😢. I should have bought it before this update.....huh
These type of highway reviews we actually need. Kudos to you. Getting to know the actual cruising speed is very important before getting a new bike.
Thank you so much ❤️❤️😃😃
The most important matter is that I don't rely on moto vloggers, I always prefer to take a test drive of myself and decide which one is best for me. Currently i am owning 200Ns bs3 2012 model and it is still fulfilling my need in great condition.
You take a test drive of yourself? 🤣 Bike ki lia karo bhai. Wo bhi test ride, and not test drive. For someone whose username is Ultimate English Teacher, your English is quite weak bro.
Anyway, while most reviewers are just brochure readers, this chap here is a true expert and we can trust his assessment with our eyes closed. You, or other regular folks, just don't have the expertise to assess the bike like this. So value what you are getting to learn for free. This kind of assessment and content should be chargeable.
They put in fatter tyres, right? Did they increase the rim width? If no, It may pinch the tyres causing it to feel nervous. Check karna agar bike hai abhi bhi to
Arey nahi yaar, you wouldn't expect a mainstream manufacturer to do such silly mistakes. Koi roadside tyre waale ne upsize nahi kara hai 🤣 Plus, almost all stock rims accomodate a 10 per cent wider tyre without pinching. This one's less than 10 per cent 😃 Also, if the rim pinches the tyres, the bike rides funny at ALL speeds, and not just immediately after 120-130 km/h. I still did check it though on the first day of riding, that too within the first 40.km. They just messed up the steering geometry on this one.
@@NewsXAuto bhai saab 🥲
has the rake increased? is the rake & trail changed from the older bikes angle?
You mean decrease. While Bajaj is claiming that the rake is the same, I doubt it. There is no way the wheelbase would have seen a 9mm reduction if the rake was the same. From what I can tell by putting in around a 100 km until now, the steering geometry has become steeper/sharper. Hence the instability at higher speeds.
@@NewsXAuto change of wheels? Tyres from those designated to accommodate too. More weight at front and stiffer, change in Tyres with basically same set up? No wonderbit feels less natural and stable. Apart from rake how else can wheelbase have shortened? Presume they thought it would make it turn on quicker and more sporty like but you need balance. No tech knowledge but seems common sense. They would have got very lucky to change forks wheelbase and Tyres and kept what was considered quite well balanced bike?
Honestly speaking ive rode both n and f250 and i personally wanted f250 to get some update and attention bcoz i rode both bikrs at 130+ but f250 was more stable and achieved top speed earlier due to fairing , and ngl f250 was a better machine due to its handling and stability overall . Idk why they discontinued it somehow 🤡
I agree. Had ridden both at their first media ride a couple of years ago. Had clocked 139.kmh on N250, and 145 kmh on the F. That too at the Chakan track. Both bikes were beautifully planted. This one unfortunately isn't.
Yep F250 handles better than this. Alas its nowhere to be seen
@@NewsXAutocould it be because of the track itself?
No worries F250 is coming back in a few months from now. As a result am also waiting to buy one.
It looks weird maybe most people didn't like it
Its instrument cluster looks crystal clear! But one thing, you should've ridden this at higher revs after its first service otherwise it may affect its engine! I know you know better than me but just a reminder! As always, a great video and the video clarity is improving day by day! It's rare to see a vlogger continuously engaged in testing any machine in depth especially the cruising speeds with NVH levels! God bless u for further growth! 🙌❤️
Thank you so much ❤️ See, if you know me, you would know that I am the only auto journalist in India who tries to run-in even media bikes properly before maxing them out. The new Himalayan for example! I even made a video on its running in procedure 😃However, most of the times it is not possible because you have to return the bike soon. Also, this bike was already ridden at higher revs by someone else a day earlier. But, I still haven't redlined it. I will put at least 50 km more before doing the top speed and acceleration runs 😃
Can i put ns200 handle bar or any other, so that vibration will go away will bother less, I am going to buy this and will be starting my moto vlogging journey, so will the vobbling issue will go?
What makes you think that ths NS200 handlebar will take away the vibrations? 😃
You make awesome content that can actually help a viewer make their decision
Thank you so much, Sash ❤️
Which motorcycles offer the most plush suspension systems, available in India below ₹5 lakh?
Himalayan 450
brother have you done the ns200 vibration test. I would like to learn from you.
Haven't because the test bike isn't available in Delhi 😑
Looking for my first bike primarily for city commuting, occasional highway stints. Should I go for NS200 Or N250 ? Tried the other alternatives in Yamaha,Suzuki, Honda etc but these are the two that I have zeroed in on. Please recommend.
Give a try to n160
@@ayyanpathan3688 thanks brother but the price difference isn't big between 160 and 250, and I booked the 250 already 🙌🏼
@@hunterx2918bro what's the mileage you are getting before 1st service
@@paventhanpkp9243 getting 29-30 rn
@@hunterx2918 bro you purchased N250 recently if I'm not wrong...
So I'm planning to buy N250. Already you have experienced N250 performance and stability. Only I have doubt with stability of N250.
Would you recommend me this bike. ?
1. For city.
2. For city commuting?
3. For small stretching like 300km to 400km
4. Any heating issue after long distance traveled.?
Please help me with your experience bro.
If you are ok please contact me or give any contact details please...
What would be the best bike under 2 lakh for mostly riding in city, I go 2 to 3 times a month for long/highway ride
There are many. What are the bikes you have shortlisted?
@@NewsXAuto pulsar n250, ns200, re hunter 350, yamaha mt15. I have shortlisted these bikes. You can suggest other bikes if there is a better option.
@@surajkhumukchami think you should consider a bike with 6th gear if you really want to go for long rides
Even my KTM Duke 200 BS6 wobbles post 130 kmph sometimes even when the tyre pressure is balanced! May be due to the shorter wheelbase! And being an aggressive design, it also reflects the windblast a lot towards the rider post 90 kmph spot especially on expressways and the broader highways! Test this machine as well someday like you did with others!
I sure shall! 😃
Does it feel like pulling towards one side? How does it go when you take both hands from the handlebar?
Rtr 200 4v vs N250 vs ns200 which one u will recommend ?
Yes same question excluding rtr
Shall try to answer that in the full review 😃@@Badvibes109
I would recommend ns200 or rtr 200. We don't know how spare parts availability of n250 will be after 3-5 years. NS and rtr are very successful bikes. So, their spare parts should be available.
I own rtr 200 and it's a very good motorcycle. I think RTR has better suspension, better mileage, handling and less vibrations than NS and likely more reliable than NS 200 too.
NS obviously has more power with higher vibrations. If you are already riding 15+ bhp motorcycle NS will be more enjoyable than RTR. If you want that raw power even after exceeding 100kmph NS is better.
I don't know a lot about NS vibrations at high speed. RTR has vibes between 5.5k - 6k rpm. After 6k vibes go down. Below 80 kmph at 5.5k rpm RTR is so smooth that you won't even feel a slight buzz. After 80 kmph there's a buzz on my right handle bar and right foot pegs.
Most reviewers dont know the difference between a nut-bolt, have never held a wrench! Good job calling out the errors online.
Word!
"The difference between a nut and a bolt..."
"Never held a wrench..."
True, true, and true! On the other hand, here are we, mending even the media units that come for review (watch the shorts on RTR 310 instrument cluster not working) 😃
I wonder how stable the bike is at 80+ kmph. Also does the handlebar wobble at high speeds, tank slapper if any?
Why would you wonder when I have categorically answered your questions in the video already?
My priority is highway cruising. Considering the VFM factor for N250 can I buy this instead of hunter or ronin because those also comes around same price range or slightly higher.
The Ronin is a fantastic city bike but a horrible highway bike.
The Hunter is a good city bike and an okay highway bike.
The N250 is great in the city, and better than both on the highways. So, yes, the N250 indeed it is for you.
@@NewsXAuto What about Honda cb300 f ?
Bruh i want YOU to do the ride comparison bw ns200 and n250 much required ....please while riding the bikes do the comparison back to back
I shall certainly do that. Sourcing the NS200 could be an issue. But let me see what I can do 😃
@@NewsXAuto yes please I found this one very genuine.....and. Also bring Karizma xmr into picture
Karizma vs n250 vs ns200
M actually confused in these and will be buying a motorcycle soon
@@harshitguptaofficial24 unfortunately, the chaps at Hero are scared to give me their bikes 🤦 Therefore, getting the XMR would be an issue. Still, let me see what I can do 😃
Did you use your own gauge as petrol station ones pften 5 psi out
@@virupakshawalla5734 yes. Own gauge 😃
I m looking t buy f250 new but i m 6.1 so if i buy n250 i can put modify handlebar, but in f250 i cant, wat t do plz suggest
Why do you want to modify the handlebar on the F250?
Hi sir, if you get a chance pls review about new NS200 on highway pls..
Yes, I will have to now 😃
The best review on vibration I have seen on CZcams...in-depth an precise...please keep making such reviews on different bikes...this review helped me decide if to buy this bike or not
Thank you so much ❤️ And I must also ask what your decision is? 😃 (of buying, or not buying this bike).
I will go ahead and buy this bike...initially I was opting for Gixxer 250 non faired version...if u can please suggest which one would be right bike
you had done a very good review and this video is most wanted for me.
Glad to hear that ❤️😃 thank you so much for writing in brother!
This is a humble request
Pls do a complete review of HONDA NX500
Thank you in advance😊
Honda doesn't have any media units anywhere in India as of now. But I keep bugging them almost every week. Let's hope they bring a unit or two in Delhi at least 😃
What is about NS 200 wheelbase does it feel stable at high speeds
At top speed, the NS200 doesn't weave or wobble.
@@NewsXAuto True Brother
Dude i cruise at 125 without any issues.
@@NewsXAutoplease reply to me. I'm planning to buy N250.
may i know the reason why it ks wobbling at top speeds ?
Because of wider tyres ?
Or
Not a good Chassis ?
@@SandeshMotoVlogsis it N250 ? Do you faced any stability Related issue?
Bro would you recommend N250 to buy ?
I'm interested at N250. Planning to buy now .?
biker niladri was also talking about some stability issues with this version of n250
Good to know that people are now properly testing motorcycles 😃
@@NewsXAuto Yes you are a perfect rider 💖
@@MRMKT001 no no, I am not a perfect rider. No one is. We are all learning 😃
Sir is the seat height of the single touring seat of continental gt 650 is a little bit lower than the stock seat ? Please reply 😢😢😢
Haven't tried both back to back, but if I remember correctly their height is the same. What's your inseam?
@@NewsXAuto 28 inches
Please sir do a seat height review with single touring seat kindly requesting you 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
@@TalesNgiggles0123 with a 28-inch inseam, you will be able to manage..I:ll make that video for you though 😃
@@NewsXAuto thank u sir loves from west bengal 🥳🩷🩷🩷🩷❤️🩷🩷🩷🩷🩷🩷🩷❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️💙💙💙❤️❤️❤️
I remember when sagar review first generation yamaha fz25 in 2017- 18 He was so excited and overwhelmed while driving. But when i watched bajaj n250 review really don't understand what actually happening..
The original FZ-25 was a fantastic motorcycle, especially for its time. This is an okay motorcycle. So it's alright if he is not excited about it. That's not a problem at all. The problem is his overconfidence and lack of knowledge.
Bro is CB300F stands better than this when it comes for daily commuting n long ride?
Haven't tested the 300F yet. Honda just doesn't have media units of any bike right now.
I have roade Cb300F. the suspension feels stiff for city.
I am not a bike expert.. in my sense I want to know whether the ergonomics and vibration will be okay to cruise in local or highway.. will I feel any pain? And I will not go beyond 100.. just a normal guy
My question is, why did you not watch the complete video? 🧐
@@NewsXAuto I did watched the complete video, did you really read and understood my question properly? I don’t want in technical aspect, it is just a plain question and plain answer, and I guess u dint say nothing much about the riding posture..
Do you have problems understanding simple English?? Was this an "ergonomics" video? This was about the BIKE and what you can expect from it on the highways. I clearly mentioned where all you will experience vibrations and whether they are bothersome or not. As far as ergonomics are concerned, I have made a separate seat height video and you can gauge how you would fare on the bike from that video. Whether your extremities would pain or not is totally dependent on your posture and your riding experience. No one else can ascertain that for you. Learn the difference between different aspects of a motorcycle. And learn a bit of technical stuff too. It will help you understand motorcycles better. @@stephenthb
Superb video 🔥 We need more such videos of other bikes! Other motovloggers should learn. Thanks for your efforts!
Thank you so much ❤️😃
so what's the solution for this instability sir because i want to buy this and i really don't want this type of instability fear 😢
@@laazzyy0698 keep it under 130 km/h. That's the only solution, unfortunately.
Sir which one is best ns200 or n250
Need a bike for everything or an overall package
I would pick the N250. 😃
as per my concern for the overall package, why not the ns200 which comes with 6 gear and liquid cooler whereas the n250 comes with only 5 gear and oil cooler. I would like to hear from you.
How can bajaj miss something so crucial during their testing or did they get too carried way with their social media marketing and the new instrument panel!! Does it mean they will recall these new bikes to fix this weaving?
A valid point! A recall, if any, would depend on how many owners report the issue.
I also dont understand.... Bajaj always make this kind of manufacturing mistake....
Thinking like they are not serious about their bussiness..
Is there who can tell this issue to bajaj
@@daywalker5657 they don't "always" make this mistake. And they do take the feedback seriously. 😃
how do the vibrations here compare to ns200?
Let me answer that in the full review 😃
When will you be reviewing Mavrick 440 sir?
Might not be reviewing at all as Hero is afraid to give me their motorcycles to review 😃
Hey buddy, Can you make review for Yamaha MT15.
Sure!
Brother if we cruise at a speed of 120 for 3-4 hours continously then will it create problem to engine?
@@coronavirusupdates6144 on this motorcycle, right?
@@NewsXAuto yes
PLZ Please give reply..I am confused between N250 and CB300F. Please advise which one should I buy?
Haven't ridden the CBF yet bro.
Please create a review video of CB300F. Your video will help me to decide the right bike.@@NewsXAuto
@@AkashKumar-tn6cw Looks difficult as Honda just doesn't have a media unit of any bike right now.
n250 or rs200? I like the fully faired bike but the console is outdated and the new n250 has all the new tech stuff... which one is better?
If I like a fully faired bike, I wouldn't care about the console being outdated...
@@NewsXAuto I see...will test drive soon. also if possible do make a review video on the latest rs200 model.
@@donallwin1663 shall certainly try! 😃
@donallwin1663 u can buy Karizma xmr210
....this bike should have been launched in a 200 cc engine instead for better mileage and its weight should not have been more than 155 kg ( its 164 kg😮😮), it also needs high rise and comfortable clip on handle bars fron the Ns series, it also needs hazard lights, rear view mirrors could have been funkier as well something like the Dominar ones 😢😢
Very nice effort to show us the cruising RPMs and the respective vibes at those speeds. Yes, I too don't think highly of reviewers who love to pop wheelies on all the bikes which demonstrates more their skills than the bikes' potentials. However, targeting people can lead to bad publicity because I've seen people are very passionate about their fav youtubers and feel offended. Anyway, apart from that, you're very right that when wheelbase drops without change in swingarm length, the steering geometry has been altered, specifically the rake angle has been tightened. So while this will definitely decrease high speed stability, it should improve slow speed agility and make it easier to change directions around corners and other city conditions. So please see if that part has improved as that is much more useful than stability at 130 plus speeds. Also I felt sitting more on the bike than in the bike, do you feel the same. I feel less confident in corners when I feel I'm sitting on the bike than in it. Otherwise it's a lovely engine. Would also love to see your take on the Maverick 440, I'm surprised you've not reviewed it yet. Nice video and great effort.
Thank you so much ❤️ See, the idea is to not target anyone, but to call them out for the incorrect.info they are providing, that too so overconfidently. That's what Journalism is and I shall keep at it hoping that fellow reviewers focus more on learning how motorcycles, cars, their engines, gearboxes, etc., work and not just on cinematics.
Coming to the bike, it was already a fine handler. I rode the original extensively in Pune at the launch ride, both at their track and in the real world. It was fantastic. Now, surprisingly it neither feels as "quick-turning" either, the reason for which I shall mention in the full fledged review 😃
@@NewsXAuto that means the USD forks are robbing some agility despite the tighter ateering geometry. Anyway, thanks for the long a prompt reply. Do check the Maverick out
@@srinathtg4623 The USD fork aren't doing anything like that 😃 It's something else, which I will disclose in the review video 😃
Regarding the Maverick, Hero is too scared to give me bikes. They don't give it to Sagar as well. Baaki sabko dete hain wo 😁
Is new ns 200 is more stable than new n250 at higher speeds? Like 120 130
Yes it has perimeter frame
U shdn be riding 200-250cc motorcycles at 120-130+ kmph at first place
Shorter Wheelbase, I consider it a Cost Cutting Mesaure. Had they increased the Front Suspension length, this problem could've been avoided. A bigger front Rim can also solve this issue, but I'm afraid that it'll interfere with the ABS performance, hence will require changes in the Rear Wheel too to balance it out😎
No, there's no cost cutting involved in shortening a wheelbase 🤦
In fact, they have been way more generous with everything in this iteration. They just got the steering geometry incorrect this time.
@@NewsXAuto May be, they might've changed the Castor Angle to make it more Agile. I was thinking that as they've changed the Front Suspension to USD this time, so Cost Cutting is also a Possibility😎
@@oshoosho8466they say that the caster hasn't changed. Like I said, I doubt it.
But how did you arrive at "cost cutting"? How is going to a USD setup cost cutting? It's more expensive than the conventional right side up fork, so how is it cost cutting? 😃
@@NewsXAuto I felt that the OEM Vendor of USD Forks might be having some Standard sized USD Forks and Bajaj just bought it. Any special order must've not been possible without the commitment for a specific quantity to be purchased.
I don't think that they've intentionally decreased the wheelbase as the Bike is already Agile😎
@@oshoosho8466 no no, there's nothing wrong with USD quality, but you are right about the "not intentionally reduced the wheelbase" part. But the change in the steering geometry is ALWAYS intentional, and here that's what I have a problem with 😃
Where is the promised review......???
@@DHS562 I know it's terribly delayed. Despite working 7 days a week since December 1. So you can imagine the work load. Guess what, I had picked up this bike on EID. Yes, for the first time in my life, I worked on Eid. Sharing because I value my viewers.
A bit more wait, and I will post the review 😃
Abhik from Kolkata.. Dada you have changed the channel name ??
No no, Real Auto Reviews exists as my personal channel and NewsX Auto is the channel I have started for the company I work for 😃❤️
Sir can you compare stability of n250 on speeds above 120kmph with mt15,duke 200,rtr 2004v..which one would make a great tourer amongst these..
Allow me to answer that in the upcoming review video 😃❤️
@@NewsXAuto ok sir thankyou
Some reviewers are talking about not suitable frame,disconnected feeling with the bike and not confidence inspiring at curves etc..I think it feels like they are purposely down playing this otherwise perfect vfm bike..can you also talk about this if these claims are true or false
@@amrutpat12 Sure. Without pasting links (as YT won't allow you to do that), can you please share the names of those reviewers/channels? I WILL have to watch their videos and if I find they are wrong about anything, I will make a separate video on that. Like I did on the Speed 400 on the other channel.
@@NewsXAuto biker nil.dri in his this bike is not for everyone video and mot..i.n in their n250 review were the were the one’s who picked out these cons
Sir can you point one bike for a first bike between n250,rtr 200 and sf 250(little out of budget and vibrarions complaints post 6k kms).? Needs are 2l price litlle extensions is possible and 20 ps or more power and occasional touring.
The N250 would suffice. 😃
@@NewsXAuto thankyou for your reply reply shiraz sir but after watching your video I'm worried about the wobble or lack of confidence at speeds which the other two bikes are planted and inspire confidence..is it a deal breaker sir ? The package is very well rounded for n250 and I was set on it but I hate bikes with wobbles it shows lack of engineering..your thoughts sir? Also for 2.2l I.e 20k discount I'm getting new 2023 mfg model sf250..does it mean that an update is around the corner and stock clearance is going on the dealer said new stock of 2024 will come by June only.
@@amrutpat12 the wobble is POST 130. If.you want to routinely go above that speed, then it's not the bike for you.
@@NewsXAuto sir thankyou for your replies..
@@NewsXAutousefull
I'm confused between Bajaj Pulsar N 160 and apache rtr 160 4v ?? Which one gives best mileage?? Which one is better in long term as engine??
Don't think too much about long term. Just buy the one you have your heart on 😃
Bro which bike is good n250 or mt15 in terms of everything?
The N250 isn't a patch on the MT-15, which is a much superior motorcycle. 😃
@@NewsXAutohow so mt-15 is superior care to explain??
@@thefitved3980 not just superior, but wayyyy superior. 😃
@@NewsXAutohow? Exactly? In my opinion it has an edge over n250 only in terms of handling...
@@NewsXAuto may be you are talking about engine reliability right or the quality of parts?? Trust me brother there isn't a single bike at this price point that offers you what the n250 is offering yes that's coming from a 2018 V3 owner my brother has n250 and trust me it is a beautiful machine
Can anyone enlighten me.....what can go wrong if someone extends the swing arm
Stability issue
@@SPSINGH-yb1lvNo. It's the opposite 🤦 A longer swingarm will bring in more stability at the cost of agility. 😊
wud like to know the amount of speedo error present with true gps measured speed
I would be doing that as well 😃
It would b around 7-8 which not too bad as compared to Japanese
@@mandeepsingh9469 I will be doing that soon. Let's not have any speculations until then 😃
@@NewsXAuto also do a top speed test until it hits limiter in 5th gear
@@mandeepsingh9469 I will.
how much mileage can i expect? i tend to enjoy the higher rpms and use the whole speedometer i paid for. All the mileage tests are just them driving at 60-70.
Great! Finally someone talking sense about the FE runs 😃 Just wait for our review then 😃
@@NewsXAuto i booked hunter 350, you better upload it soon, if the mileage is better than hunter then I'll ditch it the hunter, else will ditch both n go with r15 🤧
@@Akash-cm5yo LOL! In that case, get the R15 immediately. The Hunter and this do not even come close to that motorcycle. The YZF-R15 is made by God.
The wobble was from the painted part of the road I believe bcoz those painted part do cause a lot of stability issue.
NO 🤦 the painted stripes do absolutely NOTHING to the stability. They matter only at starting from a standstill, that too if the rear tyre is on that stripe. Then it could lose traction. With a steady throttle, like in this video, even a inline four wouldn't lose traction. Wobble is primarily due to the messed up steering geometry.
@@NewsXAuto I partially agree with u in this coz I even ride on highways and the newly painted stripes do cause stability issue to some extent and trust me I have experienced this on many bikes not just a single one. Yeah the steering geometry does play a major role but one cannot ignore those painted stripes.. I might be wrong in this but m sharing my experience with. Btw nicely explained video good work
@@salmanshamim4613 jazakallah khair brother. Once again, the painted stripes do not have any affect on stability. Take it from a rider who has been riding since the early '90s and have either ridden or tested every motorcycle, including the mighty Suzuki Hayabusa, sold in India. And a few motorcycles that weren't sold in India 😃
What's your opinion in the new F250? It has everything the new N250 has apart from the USD forks.
@@mg1721 Had ridden it (and the old N250) back at their original launch a few years ago. Haven't ridden the new one yet, but if you say that it's only missing the new USD fork, then it's a blessing in disguise. That actually makes it the better bike...
@@mg1721 did you get the answer??
@@NewsXAuto Yes I did. Thank you 🙏🏽
@@mg1721 all the best and keep me posted! 😃❤️
This bike is for 70-100kmph crusing speed. This is what I actually need. My kind of bike.
Then it's indeed the perfect bike for you 😃
80 - 100 is cruising speed for cars. why you need 100km/h cruising speed on a stupid bike? its not safe that's all I'm saying.
@@MJ-rr4hd if we have a good road...long ride..... Then if it can go without stress at that speed it's nice only na. And 100 is not that speed for a good road and bike. Always we won't be riding at 100 also. Sometimes....if we have good road....
@@MJ-rr4hd that we will need in a long empty straight road.went on a shine 125 i was cruising around 60.felt its too slow.not everywhere but we need this capability for those kind of roads
@@Raghu155_ It feels slow until you crash. I also cruise on highways at 60-70km/h on bike. even though it feels slow......but trust me its the max you should do. I maintain the same speed as other bikes in the highway. in usa they have cars with 500hp, 1000+hp. Cars can reach 250-400+ km/h, but in 90% of the states the max highway speed limit is between 112 - 128 km/h. major cities like new York, new jersey etc.. has speed limit of 105km/h. slow drive save lives
Yes !! The wheelbase has been reduced by 9 mm for better flickability but it has caused a harm to the straight line stability.😮😮
You don't understand. The wheelbase hasn't been deliberately reduced. The bike was already a fantastic handler. The shortening of wheelbase is an outcome of change in steering geometry that came with the USD fork.
@@NewsXAuto...,.I thought that they reduced the size of the swing arm 😂😂
@@ampassionstruck9138 hence the detailed clarification in this video 😃
Bro randomly I got into your review.. Really liked your explaination in detail.. Do suggested can I go for N250 Or MT15?
Thank you so much ❤ The honest answer is that the MT is a much superior motorcycle. 😃
How do u say like this I owned n250 7 months before update and overall it's better than mt15 one problem is wobbling issue only in my experience it also above 135 and I think u always not rode above 130at all time@@NewsXAuto
@@Blackmarlin.5566 you have ridden the N250 for seven months but not the MT-15 even for 7 days, right? Ride one extensively and you'll know. The N isn't a bad bike. It's just that the MT is another level altogether 😊
Could u say what makes mt superior?pls do make a video comparing n250 and mt@@NewsXAuto
I think the wobble was due to you going over the painted part of the road?
No 🤦 Going over the paint stripes has nothing to do with the wobble. Those stripes can only cause harm at moving from a standstill (loss of traction). 😊
another automobile reviewer 6 speed also faced severe wobbling at 130 too , you can see it in his video I thing reduction in wheelbase might be the issue as NewsXAuto said.
@@monishvj5172 yes. The wobble is primarily due to the altered steering geometry. The change in wheelbase is also due to it, but the wheelbase itself isn't the primary reason for the wobble. The altered geometry is. 😃
Lack of riding experience in high speed
@@rlbvlogs75 you must do some research before typing such comments. This gent was in his riding uniform while you were still in liquid form. He has maxed out everything from a Honda Shine 100 to ALL generations of the Suzuki Hayabusa. And your ignorant self says that he has lack of high speed riding experience? 🤣
Shiraz Bhai, I think that Skyline guy was probably Sagar's script writer or assistant of sorts who was asked to put in the specs. 🤣🤣
No no, he is Bajaj Comms. His name is Ranjan. An excellent chap, with good technical knowledge. He briefs the journos at first rides. He says that he slipped. But who are we? Journalists, right? What is our job? To find out the truth irrespective of what anyone says. Unfortunately, Sagar not only did NOT do any any sort of fact finding questions, but he went 10 steps ahead and based his incorrect assessment on it. THAT is a blunder and a stamp on the fact that ALL "experts" have been fooling the masses since day one.
Was there any wobbling issues with this bike?
What did you learn from the video?
Hi I just want to confirm. If bike is on, the display should not show any red or the yellow lights (Oil, Engine, TC, ABS) if everything is fine right ?
@@ingeniouscoder7819 It WILL show all the lights when the ignition is ON, but the engine is NOT running. Hope this helps 😃
@@NewsXAuto and when the engine is running? it should be off right ?
@@ingeniouscoder7819 yes! Also, just curious, which bike do you have? The N250 itself?
@@NewsXAuto Yes I bought today. Brooklyn Black color.
@@ingeniouscoder7819 awesome! Watch my Himalayan running in procedure video. You'll get a good idea about the correct running in procedure 😃
How was the stability on the road at High speed ?
What??? Did I make this video in French? Please don't insult us by asking questions WITHOUT EVEN WATCHING THE VIDEO. The whole video is about stability at high speeds, and you didn't even care to watch it!
@@NewsXAuto i watched the whole video but want to confirm it before buying it. 🤗
@@krish.dutta1258 my verdict here won't be any different than the verdict in the video! Unlike the majority of reviewers, we aren't brochure readers 😃
What is the difference 9 mm is going to make ?
Quite apparent in the video. Also, even half an mm can make a big difference!
Bro i have the 22 version n250 and it can commute 125 to 130+ easily but the mileage getting is a trick. I can share if someone wanna know
Yes, had ridden the N and F a couple of years ago at the first ride. Had clocked 139 and 145 respectively. What's the fuel efficiency you're getting? Do share, as the info will be useful for many 😃
Tell the trick
I see many reputed youtubers & media houses (dont wanna name any) are saying that the addition of a 6th gear would have done wonders. To my knowledge of riding a pulsar 220f for 9 years now, oil cooled engines domt require a 6th gear or the need isnt there as much as a liquid cooled unit for say. Also on day to day riding conditions in city , we dont cross above 60-65kmph & a long fifth gear will just do the job. I dont understand why people focus more on gimmicky things rather than tractability. Pls do explain your thoughts on this. Thanks in advance
Gear ratios and the type of engine cooling method used have nothing to do with each other. 😃
Those media houses and journos unfortunately have zero technical knowledge, therefore they end up saying the same things over and over again.
Will this become better at cruising if it gets a 6th gear? Yes. Does it REALLY need one BADLY? NO. 😃
@@NewsXAuto Greatly put together. Thanx for the satisfying explanation 👍
@@anirudhyachakraborty7680 it's really a pleasure having sensible viewers like you! ❤️❤️
Do this with the new 2024 ns200
Sure!
Are the rim sizes the same as the previous ones?
Have answered this in detail to another viewer. Check that response!
@@NewsXAuto Can you share the link here?
@@prajwalshah8249 it's on this video itself. You'll have to look at the comments below. MotoTune is the guy who commented. Read my replies to him 😃
@@NewsXAuto The reason I was asking this question was because I own a Pulsar F250. Given that the rims are identical, it would be acceptable for someone like me who owns a bike from an earlier generation to switch to these tires, as you indicated in your response to that comment. Right?
@@prajwalshah8249 yes, but I would advise against it. I would in fact recommend people reverting to the previous bike's tyres once it's time to change.
can you do same test with ns 200
I sure shall! 😃
Nice highway.... Is it a highway or an expressway if I'm wrong please correct me❤
An expressway 😃 You are right 😃❤️❤️
Long turm ke liye kaisi haa
Long term ka to long term mei hi pata chalega na bhai 😃
Mein planning kar raha hu lene ka kuch problem ho nhi hai na. Main zyada speed nhi chalata 80 to 100 k andar hi. Wobling issue hai kya aur vibration hai 80 to 100 mein ?
Koi issue nahi hai 120-130 tak. Vibrations ke baare mei bataya to hai 80-100 ka bhi. Dekho video dhyaan se.
80-100 kam ni hoti bhai
@@NewsXAutobro mai n250 aur ns200 me confused hu mai n250 lene ki soch rha hu because of it's features,looks,new smoother engine and better build quality but yeh jo wobbling ka issue bohot youtubers nai point out kia hai toh yeh exactly kis speed pe aata hai and iss issue ki wajah se ns 200 lena theek rhega kya ?
@@syedqaiserabbas7319bhai liya tumne n250, kaisa tha experience with wobble?
Mene N250 liya h. 3D later delivery@@Brbe0990
Also i want karizma xmr vs n250 detailed comparison plzzz brother
The chaps at Hero (and Ather) are scared to give me their bikes. So that comparison looks a bit difficult. Let me see if I can ask around if anyone has bought that bike 😃
@@NewsXAuto sure brother....I don't know where are you from but there is a guy Rohit he owns all 3gens of Karizma you can contact him just look for his channel it's a small channel but very wise rider
@@NewsXAuto @say2merohit is the channel
@@harshitguptaofficial24 I live in Delhi/NCR. If he is here, then I shall certainly try to connect with him 😃
With all the competition indian brands have, why can they better the performance of the newer iterations over the older ones? It's night time they got too serious. Giving new features is a must nowadays, but performance has to be bett. Gone are the days when they used to launch newer versions with changes in STICKER & PLASTIC.
VERY VERY NICE AND TECHNICALLY PERFECT REVIEW. THANK You, KEEP ON THE GOOD WORK PLEASE.
Thank you so much for the kind words. See, this is not a newer model. As a facelift, it's not a sticker job like Hero does. It's a proper facelift with upgraded suspension, TC, dual channel ABS with ABS modes, and navigation. I don't like gimmicks in vehicles, but it's a fact that nowadays we need navigation. Even TC is beneficial for newer riders. The only chink in its new armour is the lack of stability post 130 kmh. But below that, it's a pretty good motorcycle in all aspects 😃
@@NewsXAuto thank you very much for your reply & very accurate information provided.
@@NewsXAuto between this , gixxer 250 and rtr 200, which one would you recommend for cruising at 100-110kmph and which has best handling sir
N160 vs n250 which one is best but now both r with air colling 😢
Four out of my own five motorcycles are air-cooled two strokes. Don't worry about air-cooled or liquid-cooled. Evaluate your priorities, share them here, so that I can tell you which bike to buy 😃❤️
Hi..Please suggest me bike under 2lac. My requirement is 40+ Kmpl and must me reliable for touring am not a harsh rider i generally cruise between 80 to 90. I take care of bike. I want bike for touring that should be reliable and not heavy on pocket so that's why I said upto 40 kmpl. I was wondering to purchase this one n250 but now i think..You can guide me better.
xpulse 4v or TVs Ronin
@@PolatokJajabor That isn't comfortable for family..like my mom and dad
@@dhananjaytiwari3450 TVS Ronin
@@dhananjaytiwari3450 TVs Ronin
No one did a review like this literally no one( Rpm & speed)
⭐️Can u make a video on stability of Yamaha mt15 and Pulsar n250
I rode yamaha Fz and Pulsar n160, Yamaha is more stable and give more confidence in straight road and cornering.
Thank you so much. The MT-15 is much superior motorcycle. No comparison needed. 😃
This is the reason i dont believe these reviews thanks bhai for the geniun review....😊
You are most welcome brother ❤😃
Heating issue?
In the upcoming full review 😃❤️
@@NewsXAuto ok
any wobbling at 120?
No..Zero. 😃
First thing is who is sagar..
And why im watching this..
Wait.. i'ven't watched sagars review yet.
Oh shit i've N250 already.. doesnt matter new n250 has became sheepheaded horse... 🧘
😂
As per my understanding Bajaj is using this bike as a test bench for features to trickle down to the ns200. Expect the next ns to have TC and fatter tyres. At the same time Bajaj is trying to keep this bike below the ns series. The OG N250 was performing far better than the bs6 ns of that time, reaching 151(speedo) even with 5 gears where the ns lost it's breath at about 142 143. They actually affected ns and domi 250 sales. With an ecu update they made the limiter lower and now my bs6 n250 hits limiter in 146~147(very disappointed).
Needless to say my N250 2022 end bs6 dc abs seems to be a much better bike than this update even with skinnier tyres and basic telescopic forks. My bike still reaches 140 effortlessly and goes 146. This seems to have a longer 4th gear and a shorter 5th than before(indicated by the cruising rpms and the struggle to reach 140). Paired with the shorter wheelbase Bajaj is trying to make it a nimble city bike which the first version struggles a bit in my opinion. Initially I felt this kind of instability too but I swapped the rear for Apollo S1 140/60 and there is literally a hell and heaven difference. The bike goes straight like a missile even at 145. Recently went on a 500km ride with a pillion and two bags and the bike was happy sitting at 100 to 115 all day long!
No changes in the gearbox or sprocket ratios. And the bike doesn't struggle to reach 140 either. This isn't a top speed video. Here, I was.gradially increasing the speed to monitor the rpm properly. Can you do me a favour though? Well, two actually:
1) Yours is a BS6 bike, right? Can you tell me the mex speeds in the first four gears your bike achieves at the limiter?
2) What's the rpm at 100 km/h in 5th?
@@NewsXAuto I know this isn't a top speed test but I've seen other speed tests and saw it losing breath after 138 and could manage only about 140. Now I'm not sure whether they corrected the meter error but knowing bajaj they're probably using the same sensors from the previous bike so yes the bs6 still is faster up top(it's a minor difference but yes when you're going against the likes of the mt and ns that difference can trigger a success or failure in sales in the Indian market)
1. 1st gear 42, 2nd gear 72, 3rd gear 96, 4th gear 122, 5th gear 147(now hits limiter at 146 after I switched to Apollo S1 140/60).
2. RPM in 5th at 100 is 6.5k dot.
Hope it answers your queries.
prev gen n250 had handle vobbling issue.. it has increased it seems
Didn't experience any wobbling in the previous N250 or F250. That's why I am surprised!
Excellent video!
Need the same on NS200 2024! Kindly make it happen! 🙏🏽
Thank you so much ❤️😊 Shall try to certainly make it happen 😃
@@NewsXAuto Awesome bud! Subscribed 👍🏽
@@krishnachaitanya8590 thank you so much brother ❤️❤️
@@NewsXAuto no problem brother 😊😊 keep up the good work
I think this is cz of softer tuning of suspension?
No. I have mentioned the reason in the video.
Is ns200 recommended to buy??
Totally depends on your priorities 😃
What a great content brother take love ❤❤
@@aishikroy8095 thank you so much ❤️
Brother Agr eska stock handel bar hta kr agr clipon install kre to jo woble issue hai highe speed me kya wo hat jayega or agr nahi to kese htega pls Answer kyuki mai ye bike lene lga hun so pls help 🙏🏻
Handle change karne se kuch nahi hoga. Aur wobble 130 ke upar hai, usse pehle nahi. So unless tumhe har time 130 ke upar chalaani hai, koi fikr karne ki zaroorat nahi 😃
@@NewsXAuto Ok Bhai Ye jo wobble hai ye bike ki chasse ki wjah se hai y tyres ki wajah se Tumhare Experience ke hisab se 🙏🏻
@@peacefinder6813 ye Mai tumhe review video mei bataunga 😎
@@NewsXAuto ok Bhai Jldi lana Review 👌🏻
Hello siraj ...i have one question.... shouldn't these media bikes be given after 1st service to get more real review of bike
I have been conveying this to EVERY manufacturer since, like, forever! But most of the times its just not possible for them.
@@NewsXAuto Yeah ...that should be done by them on thier own . And thanks for reply. I also need help from you regarding choosing my next bike. I am currently riding Gixxer 155 2016 model (40k KM ) . Most of it done in city ride but from last 8-10 months I am riding a lot on highway and feel it somewhat underpowered on highway and that why need of upgrade.
I have Shortlisted two bikes ...Honda CB350 (new one) and Pulsar N250. My usage will be 50:50 between city and highway. My needs are a comfortable city bike which can cruise on highway at 95-100 vibration and stress free all day long. Both of these two bike can do that and I know both these bike are from different segment ( retro and sports) and like both of this segment. Problem with Honda CB 350 is thier availability (nearest dealership is 100KM far) , less service centre and service quality inspite of being expensive is not upto mark. Also due to 19 inch wheel and longer wheelbase it's highway stability is very good but due to same reason it is handling is not as good that of my current Gixxer 155.
Problem with Bajaj is thier long term reliability and will engine remain smooth stress and vibration free in long run. (in Suzuki Gixxer in these 8 years I have only changed Engine oil, oil filter , Air filter , wheel bearings , swing arm bearings , and brake pads) .
Suzuki Gixxer 250 I am not considering because of its uncomfortable pillion seat(now I ride with my wife sometimes) and Vstrom 250 I am not considering because I didn't like handling of adventure bike (very hard for me coming from street bike).
Can you help me choose bewteen Pulsar N50 and Honda CB350 ...
@@i_am_abhinav At the outset, you can't go wrong with either. I absolutely love the CB350s! You are wrong about the handling. They handle beautifully. You might be referring to "maneuverability, as compared to your Gixxer, and that's expected when you upgrade to a bigger bike, that too from a different segment altogether Again, it's still fantastic for a bike of its size, but it can't match the smaller Gixxer here the same way the Gixxer can't match its highway poise and manners. However, for your use, I would say you should save 50,000 rupees by opting for the N250 as it would serve your purpose better than your current bike. 😃
@@NewsXAuto yeah but I am somewhat having doubts on long term usage of Bajaj as usually they don't age well. Also as no test ride bike are available for bajaj n250 can't just see the parts quality. Can you comment upon parts quality, fit and finish , rattling sound etc of N250.
@@i_am_abhinav let me answer all of that in the full review next week 😃
It seems like only some are left who still give genuine review you biker niladri and helmet dude
@@prashy4393 hey thanks bro 😃
Legends pls answer…
For a office going guy who tours at weekends; give bike suggestions
My options is Honda 1.cb200x 2. N250 3. apache 180 2v
P.s.- need low maintenance and long term reliability
Low maintenance is bajaj
Reliability is Honda
Pick one
I suggest you go for bullet agar lambe time tak bike rakhni hai
Kya bhai ingine long 10 12 year chal shkta hai kya 🙌
Bilkul chalega bas engine oil ki quality pe compromise mat karna, service time pe karaana, aur shuru ke do hazaar km running in dhang se karna
Day 965456 sir where are the rest of the videos of RTR 310
My apologies, brother. They are delayed. I know. But first rides have to be given more importance, hence the other videos are coming first. That said, the RTR videos would be coming from Wednesday/Thursday onwards 😃
@@NewsXAuto i understand sir waiting for it eagerly
Bike is wobbling while you are switching on the patchy line and white stripe line if you look carefully. it may be due to road conditions + softer suspension setup
Nope. That's not what's happening here.
@@NewsXAuto 5:41, 6:21 while switching between white stripes lines and that patch line
@@PoweRHousE_N250you need to check again. The bike starts to weave BEFORE he changes lanes. Another CZcamsr has highlighted this issue. Also, for a moment let's assume that the wobble is because of the road undulations or even the darn stripes, that further stamps the fact that the bike is unstable. I have seen this guy's top speed videos on his main channel and no bike weaves and wobbles like that even when he changes lanes. Watch those!
Sir, Is it feasible to do to long tour on this bike lets say delhi to Bengal 1600 to 2000 km on highway ?
I will be able to answer that in my full review video. Just hold on for a few more days 😃
@@NewsXAuto sure sir
Bro you should avoid using your hand to explain something while riding at that speed. Thanks god you didn’t face wobbling at all. 👍🏻 Ride safe.
Please don't worry, I wouldn't have taken off my hand at any speed if I didn't think it was safe to do so. 😊
My n250 sits at 6800 rpm for a hundred, doesn't feel comfortable to me not because of the vibrations but because the front end feels like mud to me
great rpm but vibes are turnoff. when i got my 200NS in 2015 it also used to do 100 at 7k rpm and it still does.
This does it at just 6200 rpm.
@@NewsXAuto weight and wind difference probably. I am around 67 kg and with full gear probably i go upto 75 kg
@@NewsXAuto awesome, new tech is moving very fast. cant beleive Pulsar has grown so much better in two decades. i had a 2007 model pulsar which got seized on highway while redlinning and now my NS 200 can redline all day and night along. new pulsars are much better.
Heyy plss do some review on new ns200 2024
I will 😃❤️
Do a video of the new ns200
Sure bro