DIY BUILD DRAWERS WITH POCKET HOLE SCREWS | Dave Stanton
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- This is the easiest way to build solid drawers that do not sag! Make them from wood, plywood or melamine like I did.
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I will be using this method on my live show on the weekend in the mobile machine cabinet build.
Hey mate where do you source those clamps
Fantastic tutorial! I have an unused tall melamine cupboard to cut into drawers. This is a perfect guide for me. I love pocket hole work. Thank you.
Turning a tall melamine cupboard into drawers? That's some creative DIY magic right there!
I'm using your method to make a pantry full of pull out shelf/drawers. I just made the first one and I'm so impressed with how easy this was - and how sturdy the drawer is. Having everything clamped up made using the pocket screws on the bottom a breeze. This was so much easier than the method I've been using. You are a great teacher - thank you!!
Great to get that feedback! Please let your friends know about my channel which I hope covers so many things to help people.
You sir are the Bob Ross of woodworking, skilled and soothing!!!
Thanks Richard Borg!
I loved the how to vid the first time it was released. Dave made it look sooooooo easy with the right tools. I made quite a few. This second release reminded me why I like woodworking so much. Dave's still an Australian Icon!
Thanks WhoDatBe Dare! When it works it looks easy. Believe me, it isn't always the way!
Thank you Dave. Always appreciate the little functional tips that you discover and share. Very nice thank you
Thanks stevenachlas!
I will be building melamine drawers this week for a wardrobe project. Your tips have been very helpful. Thank you. 👍😎🇦🇺
Keep me informed on the progress.
Made some drawers by your method with 15mm baltic birch and it was fabulous! Easy, no gaps, absolut sturdy and good looking. Thanks for sharing!
Isn't it easy after the first one?
Great video. This is the first video I've seen pocket holes on melamine. Was always told go with plywood. Thanks for showing that it can work.
Thanks for watching!
This method produces nice and clean looking draws once the front is on. No visible screws, and plenty strong enough. Glad you pulled it out in to its own video, much easier to find.
My pleasure Max Heazlewood !
Fantastic Dave, sent your way to learn draw making. Fantastic thanks!!
Awesome, thank you!
One of your very best, Thank you.
My pleasure john Frederickson !
Hello David, just wanted to thank you.
I totally transformed my « very small » garage into something very great and really organized (to my needs, and this is all that matters)
Your videos definitely help me out and gave me ideas to achieve that.
Again THANK YOU 🤗👍
Thank you so much for your kind words! I'm thrilled to hear that my videos helped you transform your garage into something great and organized. Keep up the amazing work!
Thanks for putting this one together Dave. All the information I've seen suggests not to use melamine and pocket screws as they aren't strong enough. Looks strong enough to me!
I'm in the process of a workshop fit out at the moment. Having just fought with 18mm hardwood all weekend, I'm definitely making melamine drawers for the rest!
Keep up the great work.
Cheers, Clinton
Hi BatandBallCricket, Melamine is a great product if used correctly.
Made my first ever drawer using your method! Used 34 pocket screws on drawer size of 500 x 600 x 120 in 12mm plywood. Followed your sequence step by step and I must say the finished result has given my confidence a big boost! Thanks.
Thanks Laurie Gordon!
Dave you always have great content Thank You , Happy Fathers Day
I appreciate that!
This is the only way to do it!The best way - Dave Stanton way!All the best!
Thanks INTERCEPTOR!
Thanks for sharing, very helpful indeed. I would want to see how you assemble a kitchen carcass using melamine.
Thanks 🙏🏽
I enjoyed this video and plan on using this method for some drawers that will replace fixed shelves in some kitchen cabinets. I've used miter lock method for some recent drawers but always have to fiddle with the setup because its seems wood is never the same thickness when buying at various times. I like pocket hole joinery and use it quite often.
Glad it was helpful!
Your video has gotten me thinking about using melamine for the drawers I’ll be making for a cabinet I’m working on. I even have some scraps of the stuff leaning against the wall of my shop.
Go for it!
David Stanton I’m making my first “prototype” drawer today. I’ll see how well it fits inn the cabinet and go from there.
Thank you so much 👍👍
No problem 👍
watched this just before having to build some drawers
Thanks will definitely use your method
Will need a few more clamps
Glad it helped
Thank you Dave. I still remember this being one of the first videos of yours that caught my attention. Thank you for sharing your skill.
Glad you enjoyed it
Great video. Like how you wore a microphone. Good audio quality. You've inspired me to use Melamine!
Glad I could help!
WOW, how easy was that! My go-to method in the future for sure. Love it! Thanks, Dave.
Glad you liked it!
Attempting this today. It sure beats battling glue squeeze out.
Sounds like a plan Sean Henry
Hi Dave. I started making all my shop cabinets and roll around tool cabinets from 3/4 Melamine years ago after seeing the cabinets in your shop. Really like the clean look, no painting, and durability of the cabinets....Plus you can write on them and wash off very easily!! I use domino's for alignment purposes, but still use same clamps to hold fast while drilling in pocket screws...Now that I've seen this video, I'll try my next bank of drawers with this method since even with the dominos I still need clamps to stop the creep that can happen with pocket holes. I have 6 inch drawers with bins in them full of bolts, nuts and washers that are 23 inches wide and no deflection!! I will add that I started using euro screws in the drawer slides and I did have a bit of slippage with using the supplied drawer slide screws once the drawers were loaded up, now no issues whatsoever. Thanks again for the tip it will save some time (and money) by not using the dominos!
It is really good to have feed back like this Greg!
well done
Well, I try to impress every now and then!
In my workshop I have used reclaimed laminated floor boards (which is HDF, not MDF) of 10 and 12 mm thick for drawers. They came nice, sturdy and very cheap (almost free, I may say).
I am not a fan of pocket hole joinery when using particle boards or MDF/HDF, though.
Interesting idea for recycling flooring. What form of joint do you use?
@@DavidStanton thin screws (2,5 x 25 mm) with pre-drilling.
On my first multi-drawer cabinet I made 5 different styles of drawers. One was using your method Dave except I used ¾" baltic birch for the sides and bottom. It is far too strong for its present use. Thanks for the reminder video. In my quest to learn woodworking I tend to try many methods but never truly learn one method well. Like your roll around cabinets I (simply?) need to choose a method/style and stick with it.
Hi Penny Royal! Whatever works for you and do it.
Have been building drawers the same way for years with 1 difference, I use Lamello biscuits instead of the screws. Glue squeeze out no problem since it just peels off from the melamine with no visible joints anywhere.
Hi Louis Le Grange! I also do the same with dominos if I am not using drawer fronts.
i recently bought a pocket jig kregg on sale with the clamp. i always think i have woodworking skills, then i try to make things square and straight, the way they are supposed to and i hit a wall.
the pocket jig was for a kitchen cabinet drawer that needs a fixin, i was bitching about it and my buddy says, well you got enough tools to do the job but he doesnt know, i cant make anything straight or square. even so, he is right i am going to try. this makes it look soooo easy. right on,
Fingers crossed!
Great video. Could you make a video on how to work out the spacing for same size drawers for a kitchen cabinet carcass ? Coz this is the stage Im up to.
Hmm measure the height of the inside of the cabinet, subtract around 40 mm and then divide by the number of drawers?
You make it look so easy Dave, I'm planning on building some new drawers soon, where did you get those clamps from?
Hi Bob Asker! They are Bessey parallel clamps. Most woodwork supply companies have them.
Hi David, thanks for sharing this valuable information. So how do you close the pocket hole on melamine.
Thanks
Hi Fokane Rantsieng. There is no need to.
Thanks for the lesson! Wonder if I could use the same arrangement (of boards, ply probably) but without pocket holes. Thinking of just butt joints with screws.
Sounds like a plan uwotm8 but you will see the screw heads
@@DavidStanton Thanks David. Screw heads won't be a problem. I was just concerned about the integrity. First ever drawer box coming up!
Brilliant!!
I like your open bottom cabinets in the back. You have plans/imperial measurements for them?
Thanks westsidewil! Working on that at the moment. No plans at present.
David Stanton Any idea when to expect them? They look great!!
Thanks, now I need to buy the long clamp!
Go for it!
I just got a Bob Ross vibe watching drawer assembly. :D
Thanks We trust in gw!
Ok Dave this is the way I am going to do mine . They will last a life time. I noticed all your work benches and would love to know that the gray tops are made of. Seems available bigger than standard counter top depth and widths. Thanks, Tom
The surface is formica.
@@DavidStanton I am in the US. Pittsburgh Steeler Nation. I love the work tops. Did you just glue them to OSB
@@tcbridges I had them made by a joinery shop. Benchtops are cheaper that way over here.
As a casual woodworking hobbyist (among other things) i started using pocket holes when I built your workbench stool, a couple of years ago. Pocket holes are great, and work well. I only have “cheap clamps”, not those impressive Bessey clamps that you use... (to rich for my blood)... but you cannot over emphasize the need to use clamps with pocket holes, rather than trying to use hand pressure on the joint.... or you’ll never get an “even/level” joint. As usual, Dave, your demo’s and skills are beyond reproach!
Hi Bob! Pipe clamps will do just as well.
David Stanton Agreed, Dave!! ... but on the next show, emphasize that clamps must be used!... Doesn’t matter what kind of clamps as long as you can prevent the two pieces from moving while fastening. I don’t know if “ newbies” realize that the angle of the screws try to push the joint “out of square”. When I first started to use pocket holes, I figured some downward hand pressure on the timber would be enough to hold the two pieces together when fastening the two pieces together. It worked, but as you know, the joint was buggered!! (But those Bessey clamps are awesome).
Alright, I’m ready to buy some F style clamps now! Curious how ling those ones are…
600 mm
Hi David, thanks very much, just found your channel so now you have a new subscriber.
A question/s regarding drawers constructed with pocket hole screws. Would this work with the drawer base being 12mm ply and the walls of the drawer being18mm ply? And would it be better to have the side walls butted up against the base as you did in your video or the side walls sitting atop the base on the very edge?
Thanks for watching Robin! Always better to have the base inside the drawer as the screws are not relying on holding the base but are now working as pins that would have to shear in order for the base to separate from the sides. Re thickness, keep it all at 18mm or all at 12mm. I prefer 16 or 18 as there is no flex in the base. This of course depends on the size of the drawer.
Good job David... Just quick question.. Apart from just hiding the holes, how do u cover/seal your pocket holes once you are done with any project like for a coffee table or a tv console.. My dowels give me a not so good sealed finish. Please help.
Hi O'banda Jaccodull! I don't seal. The product I use is moisture resistant melamine and as such is ok to leave. You could put some silicone or timber plugs or even a clear finish or paint in the holes if you really felt the need.
I got in trouble this week for dissing melamine a little... I pointed folks your direction to see how to use it properly 😅
Thanks Fixit Fingers!
How much weight could a drawer build like this hold? I need to make a 36"x32" drawer. Could it hold 100 pounds reliably using this method with birch ply? I like this method because it seem pretty easy, also allows a tiny fraction of extra drawer height, and accommodates large drawer bottoms. I'm just concerned the screws may fail on such a large drawer.
i love the clean lines of melalmine, but I always get break out on one side of the cut despite wrapping in tape to stop it. Steve p.s. do love your Stanton Bench, have made ugly brother of it.
Hi EXECUTIVE CARS TAXI SERVICE! Watch my show this weekend and I show you how to avoid breakout without using tape.
@@DavidStanton Thanks David
I have almost 50 years of woodworking experience, 25 years as a carpenter and 18 years working in carpenter/maintenance shop for our local school district. The school district had right around 100 schools and support building built over a period of many years. So we had just about every type of construction around. I built a lot of cabinets and did a lot of cabinet repair while I worked there. In our newer schools most of the cabinets were frameless cabinets made with melamine type products. I repaired or threw out many a melamine (particle board) drawer. I guess quick, easy curbside stuff is the order of the day.
Hi Richard M! All depends on how the whole unit is built. These work well for me.
Probably the worst place on earth to use particle board. But cost is everything for schools. Think of it as job security. ;-)
What clamps are those I don't see a link🤔
Very cool!
But how to connect false front of drawer?
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Thanks ! I am using this method for my first ever drawer and it's really easy - except I don't have the proper clamps - could someone please guide me on where to find them ? Thanks
No worries - just found them......
With regards to the actual pocket holes, are they drilled with the standard jig or the micro jig. Thanks in advance.
Standard
David Stanton cheers mate. Where in AU are you? It’s nice to find an Aussie woodworker, most on here are all US based. And work in inches. 🤪
Can you share details of those clamps you used Dave?
Bessey parallel clamps!
Hi Andrew Wynne! They are Bessey K body Revo parallel clamps.
Nice. No glue?
Hi Frank B. None needed.
Are you installing white banding on the cut ends of your melamine?
No, not needed.
Hi david. is there any place I can by screws at reasonable price, Because they are costing more than the melamine.
Hi G.V. Moutafis! Just do a search for pocket hole screws.
"So easy I love it". If you have the same tools that a cabinet-maker has, then yes, it would be so easy and not time-consuming at all.
Hi i minabrons! It can also be done with pipe clamps and a portable pocket hole jig. No need for joinery shop machines.
@@DavidStanton Thank you for your reply.
I do have those two items you mentioned, (pipe clamps and a 2-hole portable Kreg) but the thought of using them to build 4 x 760 x 300 x 160 mm melamine drawers puts me off the idea. If I had a pocket hole jig like yours in your video from 6 years ago. No problem.
But fiddling around with a clamp for every hole I have to drill and making sure everything is square etc every time. I thought to myself there has to be a quicker and easier way.
I am not very concerned about the look of the drawers when they have been pulled open as they are in the garage. So I will keep searching for an alternative method. If there is one.
I figure just using chipboard screws to hold everything in place, bottom and sides, and then attach a piece of melamine with handles for the front. Since there is no end grain to be concerned with, this could be the answer.
like we all have those fantastic clamps, or could afford them . great job though Dave.
Thanks 👍
Clamp envy...
Great method Dave, BUT I don’t have four parallel clamps and could not justify spending that amount of money. Remember some of us are only DIY and I am also retired. Is there a way for me?
Hi Allen! You can do this just as easily with pipe clamps.
Oh yes of course, great idea. Thanks mate
No adhesive used?
None required.
I have not had any luck with pocket holes in 16mm melamine. How do you do it with 16mm? It does work with the thicker melamine but that is heavy.
It can be tricky to work with 16mm melamine, but with the right adjustments and techniques, you can make it work! Try reducing the force from your drill by activating the clutch and do not use an impact driver.
@@DavidStanton OK Thank you for your reply.
With the size of that bottom of the drawer is there a risk of it expanding and cracking things with those pocket joints?
Hi Ste Co! melamine coated particleboard that is moisture resistant doesn't have movement.
@@DavidStanton thank you very much
Hi Dave, can you tell me what brand and model are the clamps you are using please. I have searched the comments below but your answer has been hidden from view to me. look forward to your reply.
Hi Wendy! I got mine here. www.carbatec.com.au/q-a-revo-body-clamp-600mm?aff=3
@@DavidStanton thank you
I thought particle boeards don't hold pocket holes screws
Hi daddybear236! Sure do.
This might be a silly question - why don’t you do domino connections?
Hi Shu Guo! Showing a way of doing this that just about any budget can accommodate. Dominos cost money.
David Stanton Thanks. Pls keep showing you tips and excellent way of thinking/planning/handling. Support from Melbourne.
I think this is 1000K USD worth of clamps but great method if you have them 🙂
And I had more left in the cupboard! Great investment, will be worth 2000k USD when I retire, LOL. But seriously, all you need is 4 good clamps and do one drawer at a time.
I think its funny when trademen are like "I have a trick!" and the trick is just clamps. Its always clamps. Thats not a trick. Thats a clamp.
Lol, clamps for the win! It's like the ultimate trade secret!
Why no glue???
Pocket hole joints don't require glue.
And glue doesn’t stick to melamine, even so called ‘melamine glue’ fails
Those are the biggest GD clamps I've ever seen. Lol
Interesting point Jesse Meza.
Well, to each his own. I absolutely HATE Melamine, and Melamine drawers are the worst IMHO.
I'd encourage using Melamine glue (Roo Glue?) to help hold the drawers together a little longer; Particle board gives very little pull out resistance to such short screws, and if the screw's too long, you risk dimpling or busting through the face. If you don't use a clutched driver, you risk driving too far (dimpling) or stripping the hole. (You did mention moving your finger...) ;-)
Nonetheless, a well demonstrated video.
Hi Richard Farwell! All I can say is the drawers I have made like this are as good as the day I built them, serve me well and most have a fair weight to carry and opened and closed on average 5 times a day. Can I ask why you hate melamine? I find it very easy to clean, resists dents and marks, white drawers make it easy to find things in them. Yes, if the clutch fails you may get a nip from the screw but that would also happen with ply.
@@DavidStanton "How do I hate thee, Melamine? Let me count the ways...." ;-) I'm sure a lot of it is prejudice. I don't like melamine or MDF for the same reasons: They are very heavy. If they get wet, they'll swell -- especially a problem with kitchen cabinets. I've had dowels, dominos, and even screws split the edge of the material. If the cabinet gets racked there's a good chance that the joinery will blow out the side. I used prefinished plywood for all of my kitchen work in the past and didn't have these problems. (But mostly furniture and furniture grade case work -- not much in the way of kitchens. And now retired so I just play.)
The EU style of making cabinets from laminated particle board or MDF is to strictly use dowels and special confirmat screws or minifixes. The way you do is kinda perversion, sorry. Pocket holes are for wood, not particle board of any kind.
Never sure why melamine has such a bad rap, these drawers will last for ever, and with a false front can be as aesthetically pleasing as you want.
Interesting point Percy Phelps. Maybe it is the way they used to be done?
It seems odd that we create DIY videos in professional grade workshops that don’t resemble the average person’s work space.
The drawers can be made in any workshop, humble or grand.
David Stanton absolutely. I was just struck by the difference. I’m sure the pro workshop is part of what attracts and holds the audience. Thank you by the way for all the work you’ve put into making wonderful teaching.
Now let me see...I need $220.00 in clamps, $125.00 for Pocket Hole Jig, $38.00 for the 4x8 sheet of melamine , $12.00 in screws, $5.00 for square screw bit to make an $10.00 drawer. Got it:)
Of course, but let's not forget the cost of the workshop, electricity, and anything else that we invest in to make one drawer...or is it all an investment in other projects and a feeling of satisfaction that these tools can bring?
Me: I’m going to build some drawers. Bought 2 parallel clamps.
Dave: 4 min into the video….6 parallel clamps…
😭😭😭
But they did the job....time and time again. 😀
Too much work just to hide screws
Interesting point Milos Matovic. But not too much for me.
Wow.... so overdone
Hi 1984tidzy, maybe, but works brilliantly.