Mountune Stage 3 Clubsport Ford Focus ST - One Take
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- čas přidán 11. 09. 2024
- We're well familliar with COBB's tuning products for Ford's with our own Fiesta ST, but Jason Connor of HOONIVERSE has a real sweet Mountune-modified Focus we couldn't help but take for a blast.
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Yayy, back to reviewing cars in CA again!
Great to see that Matt finally lets the owner talk about his mods
Matt what do you think, can you film picking up the new RS? Would be cool to see the car and your reaction and maybe first drive or something?
+skirne - I have to film the Focus RS. If I don't, I can't write it off for taxes.
+TheSmokingTire tax write off? I just got really jealous.
+Meat Amigo Taxes are an interesting issue in this business, you definitely need to have a smart accountant and not try to do them yourself, but yeah, one of the benefits of my job is that I can basically write off all car-related expenses as long as they appear as content in our outlets.
+TheSmokingTire
must be nice
+Jeff K it's a balance. On one hand it is nice. On the other, we have to pay lots of taxes because we don't do normal salary work and so we have to save up to write a big check at the end of the year.
At the start of the video I thought that was Joe Gatto from Impractical Jokers!
RS will have a great turning radius, just put it in the drift mode lol
I'm on my 2nd mk2 Focus ST still.. purely because I love the 5 cylinder engine so much. Mine is remapped to approx 280bhp with a DS map and Cobra exhaust, nothing else. The noise it makes makes me smile as much as my V8 TVR.
Who else is watching this at work?
"We can all be stupid."
Great line :P
And Matt got his first taste of the ST turning radius haha.
Very happy the one takes are back in California! Also can vouch for the horrendous turning radius on the ST. Worst part about the car IMO
+randomocityvideos It's nice to be able to turn around in a pinch, but for 99.98% of driving it doesn't matter, so its not a big selling point for me.
Cool guy, cool car, cool drive. Nice vid matt :D
was up there on Highway 2 couple days ago for the first time at night and boy was that scary. Dense fog and rain meant about 5 feet of visibility for about 20 miles.
the solution is called flexfuel sensor
In relation to the Focus' crappy turning circle, the RS has been reported to get a quicker steering rack of 13:1 over the ST's 13.7:1 and the lock to lock is 2.5 turns instead of 2.3, so a slight improvement. This is in the Focus RS Technical Presentation video SVT Performance posted in November.
0:37 God really took the wheel
Living in California now, best option for stage 3 and keeping my car legal here. Thanks
Can't wait to see what these guys can do with the RS!
Delicious tuning has flexfuel for the Subies and CObb is releasing theirs now
Shoutout to the Cammed & Tubbed Podcast!
Batch!
Agreed about turning radius... trying to navigate a parking lot in my S2000 is a challenge because of that
Always love the video's Matt waiting for a big turbo review lol
Matt, the RS has the same turning circle as the Focus ST, 39.3 feet. Or 12 Meters if you want the metric info I got from the EU Supplemental manual. I was hoping it was something they fixed as Focus ST's huge turning radius comes from the changes they made to the steering knuckle. They shortened the steering arm on the knuckles which means that they had to alter the stops so they didn't bind.
I still enjoy my ST after 103,000 miles
Perfect daily exhaust note from this car.
Matt do a VS series.. Pit cars from this series against the Fiesta and others you've built. Take them to a track day and race them! Love the series
Flex fuel sensors allow the on the fly mix of ethanol and regular gas, will require a a Ecu upgrade though !
I had a 2000 RX 300 and that thing was the most reliable vehicle I have owned. Started every time no problem. Minimal maintenance. I'll probably get another one.
+bergi85 yeah my mom was the queen of the RX for like 2 decades. She still currently owns three of them: a 1999, a 2003, and a 2009.
(Purchase price + gas + tires + oil) - sale price = Total cost of ownership.
That's how my Tacoma was as well. No one does appliances like Toyota does appliances.
There's no way in hell I'm the only who noticed the R32 Skyline in the back before the drive... am I?
Matt, do I smell a One Take video on it soon? ;)
Yeah next week, Monday I think. Before you ask, no it's not my skyline, this one is a GT-ST
TheSmokingTire No worries. I know most people subscribed probably don't follow you on Instagram and probably didn't see the GTR you purchased. Looking forward to Skyline One Take and hopefully a video on your GTR as well!
+TheSmokingTire Did you notice any R32 GTSt while you where here in NZ? dime a dozen here.
+TheSmokingTire That actually sounds more interesting to me than a GT-R. I've always had a funny feeling that you could build a low boost, low dollar, GT-S and make it a better driver than the GT-Rs. Simplifying the drivetrain to remove the 4WD would make the car lighter, you could lose some of the complications of that entire system, and build up what is effectively an RB powered Silvia, only the chassis was meant to handle a straight six in it's nose.
Ah, didn't know that the GT-S's (with the exception of the 25) came with the smaller motors. My point was less about what they came like stock, and more just that a non AWD car would be simpler to build and maintain as a street car.
Very nice. About the same modifications I would do. Our Mk7 GTI is tune only (APR) with lighter wheels with wider Michelin PSS and those two mods make a world of difference.
I've spent some time with the MK7 GTI/R and I really like the platform
Had a 2014 Focus ST for a year (didn't much like it) and the range on one tank was appalling, 260 miles per tank if I was nice to it. Average fuel economy with mostly back roads was 24 mpg. Did a track day at Road America and got an average of 8 mpg out of three 30 minute runs and had to put gas it again before making my 3rd run. This is NOT an economy car lol. I took a hard look at Mountune before getting rid of it, but it wasn't to be. To each his own I suppose.
My 15 gets about 330 miles per tank. I average about 29. Something mpg. And I drive like to hear the bov and exhaust ALOT. Definitely an economy car to me 😂😂
in Houston . NOBODY will let u pass. matter of fact if u try to pass them they speed up.
+yes sir sounds like you need a faster car
+thescoolestkyline u drive a Miata ......
+yes sir Correct, I can still pass people pretty easily.
well I know I don't need a faster car then lol I don't even see how u can tell somebody they need a faster car when u drive a Miata .... Toyota camry is faster
+yes sir nigga you're struggling to pass people cuz they "speed up", if i can pass them in my miata then wtf are you driving
loved all the comparison talk and the side tracks away from the car. I love the car talk as well but for people with ADD like me, I get "bored" quickly. So the change of topics is entertaining to me(i.e. the TST podcast).
As far as the other comments about the FIRM, I think it was because they were back to back some people were missing the normal One Takes. just my 2 cents. Love everything you do.
On my Subaru I've been happy running E85 and mileage wasn't much of a drop. I'm the 3rd owner, and the car initial came with a 93 octane tune that got 17mpg. It was just an aggressive tune. I backed it off some so I could run 91 octane and redid how it produced boost (DBW throttle, wastegate, boost mapping) and went up to 20mpg. I changed to E85 and went back down to 17mpg, lol. I played with leaning out the cruise range, and that bumps mpg back up some. I never did much, just a half point lean, and I was up to 18.5mpg. I have read some really pushing the lean cruise idea as far as it can go (as lean as you can go before you reach 0 manifold pressure) and getting up into the mid 20s. It'll suck gas if you drive hard, but for daily, you can do a lot with aggressive timing and lean tuning to get the most out of the fuel.
There are flex fuel kits for a lot of cars now, or you can make your own if you search for a list of parts. Install/build, and you can have it automatically tweak AFRs based on the ethanol percentage the sensor reads. The basic kits do not adjust timing or boost though, just simple AFR fooling. It works for a basic setup. However, if you want to get something that can tweak timing and boost dynamically too, you're looking at aftermarket ECUs to give you the multiple mapping and blending capability. It's all doable.
I like One Takes as much as the next guy, and I love your work. But as refreshing as these are, I do hella miss your old videos and short movies you used to shoot. They were quality, straight to the point, and showed us some unique cars and locations.
I'm not hating on anything and not telling you how to run the channel. Just stating my opinion and I'm sure I'm not the only one who misses that kind of content.
We miss making it, as we enjoy the artistic process. Unfortunately there is zero financial argument for making those videos.
Funny they mention the turn radius on the ST. I have a '14 ST and the wife has a '13 SE auto. They definitely widened the radius on the ST because of the close-ratio steering rack they used. However, in the standard Focus the turn radius is just fine. I can make U-turns in the '13 SE much easier than in my ST.
Nicely done as usual Matt. Thank god those FIRM videos are over. The FIRM sucks 1 and 2 it should really be FIRMP, Florida Something Something Motorsports Park.
Matt please check out your audio I have a hard time hearing you speak during the one takes. Love your one takes, keep it up.
1:48 My favorite rapper
I get about 240 miles per tank on 93. How are you getting that on E40?
+Abendschein In daily driving on Houston roads in my Stock ST , running 93 octane I've averaged 28 mpg over 6,500 miles. Of course I still accelerate hard onto the highway and cruise around 73 mph
Pwj579 If I'm on straight highway at 65mph I get 33.5 on warm days. 31 on cold days. =/
240 miles! Wow, that's not good, you must be putting that pedal down. I run 99 octane here in the UK on my 18 plate ST and get 415 miles on a full tank. 👌🏻 (driving sensibly to conserve fuel while commuting, of course.)
6:28 and a bit after, you'll get two turbo flutter laughs. lol
It's amazing to me that in california its common courtesy to let people pass. In NY if you fly up on someone on a mountain run youll get the cops called on you and the guy will drive slower just to piss you off.
+Doctor Ferdinand What you've mentioned is not uncommon on the busier roads around here (say, Carbon Canyon), but people on the best driving roads generally know that they're going to be in the way.
Stirling Moss Aw, did someone wake up on the wrong side of the bed? Also, only if we get to know each other first! ;)
***** You'll have to get in line, apparently.
20 combined real world mpg is my absolute minimum acceptable mpg in my DD. Hearing 14 combined really reaffirms my decision to keep the explodey parts of my Fiesta ST in stock configuration. 400 miles to a tank has spoiled me.
14 is caning it in the canyons with some mixed highway driving. I get 20-21 average commuting on E40 and 25-26 average on 91.
I can drift one of those in Gran tourismo 6. you wouldn't think it because it's an FF but you can get it done with the right suspension setup.
I like the mountune throttle. I hate the normal throttle response in cars now. You get like 3/4 of the power before half the pedal travel. Then the entire second half of pedal travel is the last 20 percent or so.
this guy is a piece of work -
Thanks...I guess
I cringed when he said hawk HPS pads. I made that product decision for my first brake pad upgrade...What a mistake. I've Never seen a pad fall apart like those even on regular street driving. They can't hold heat for crap and one time started spitting out webs of glue or something when they over heated on a downhill run on Little Tujunga, absolutely ruined my wheels.
Switched to EBC Reds (then later the yellow's) and the performance difference is night in day...ANDDD CHEAPER.
I noticed i've been on a barrage of making product suggestions on these videos whenever i here of a bad product i've used before lol. My apologies, I just like to inform others of issues i've had when i come across it.
With the exception of the brakes being pretty noisy on occasion I've been pleased with them. Accompanied with the RBF 600 fluid the brake feel is really nice and having the noise as a trade off to decreased fade was well worth it to me. Sorry you have had bad experiences with them.
Jason Connor (TerminatorConn)
I've never had any noise issues which i would say is a plus and a negative. But my car weighs over 3500Ibs with me in it with a 61/39 F/R weight balance so the front pads are just eating it on downhill runs. I don't know what type of driving you do, but when you start to lean on these pads, they just give up the ghost, and i'm not the only one who's had this issue.
Once i switched to EBC pads i started reading about a host of problems people have reported on forums and dealer reviews about the HPS pads. Yea i would admit they are smooth and quiet in comparison to EBC's, but the EBC red's and yellow's absolutely murder the HPS when it comes to performance per dollar and so far haven't failed me at all even with faster paced driving.
+Themayseffect I have Hawk HPS Pads and Stoptech slotted rotors. They are noisy sometimes but I think their performance is pretty good. Sorry about your bad experience with them.
yoyodawgsupbrah
i guess its probably an issue with the pad design for my caliper then. I don't have any noise issues only brake fad and heat issues. I had slotted/dotted stoptechs on the front vented on the rear.
+Themayseffect You're driving an ST?
Love my MK3 Focus, but ready for my Golf R 😎
Crazy that almost every NA Ford is setup FlexFuel but not one of their Turbo or Supercharged cars are.
Thumbs up - these "classic" one takes you do are brilliant. On a completely separate subject, when is All Cars Go To Heaven 2 coming out?
+Lembit Tedder Christmas Day
they have flex fuel readers that do exactly that, throw in a mix of gas and ethanol and it figures it out, im 99 percent sure super gramps on MCM is running that exact feature
The tune already is setup for E40 and since I'm not running straight E85 it's pretty easy to calculate once on that fuel already.
+Jason Connor (TerminatorConn) you car runs on rappers? i think im gonna get the ice cube tune
michael heintz New ice cube tank for the trunk and we are set!
Cant wait for a Focus RS one-take...when do you take delivery, Matt?
It's amazing that you blow that much fuel, I still have half tank and upwards of 300 miles on my 03 GTI giac tuned. Pretty nice looking sedan hatch all around. I like the idea of you keeping a duller toned exhaust unless you are pushing huge horses, why annoy the neighbors, especially for a DD.
I had a 3" Dynomax resonator and muffler delete on for two days. The drone drove me absolutely mental! After that I said "I'm done with crazy exhausts on my daily" and found Mountune. I've been happy ever since. My MK6 GTI had some APR love on it before I sold it.
+Jason Connor (TerminatorConn) Totally agree, you should have brought some glazed donuts with you to feed Matt everytime he started hinting that it was a luxurious ride. It's just literally that comfortable for a car, haha.
+GoneFeraL
Yeah, might as well buy a v8 sports car if you are going to pay that much in fuel. I bought a GTI for a compromise of sport and economy, I would assume most people buy focus ST's for the same reason.
@thesmokingtire Hey Matt - I read this about the Focus RS: "...the RS will get a bespoke steering rack that’s a quarter turn quicker between the locks, despite providing a slightly better turning circle than the ST"
Wow, I would love a car like this.
sick I didn't know ur getting an rs cant wait
@TheSmokingTire can you fit in the Recaros in the new ST's? i'm as tall and broad as you in the shoulders, but can't seem to fit in them.. am i missing something?
Matt just a suggestion. Next time you want to pass slow traffic, there is no need to pray. Just pass them and edit the few seconds it takes to pass them then continue like nothing happened. Frankly I'm getting sick of your issues with slow traffic and the interruptions it's causing. Kind regards, No Way.
+No Way I dont pass on double yellow lines. Even off camera. It's a dick move, it's a surefire way to have some old lady freak out and call the cops on you, and it's dangerous.
Well hell this seems like an odd hour to upload a video but I'm definitely not mad lol. Needed something to watch, damn insomnia.
+Horsedick.MPEG all our videos go live at the same time. 7 AM EST, 4 AM PST. Been that way for months.
hey matt what is that watch it kinda seem like a blancpain but i cant place it
Mighty Car Mods uses Haltech stuff on most of their cars and they've got sensors that recognize ANY combination of fuel/ethanol... Or so they say. So it is a thing... I think
Are you positive this is CA-39? Which part? I'm not familiar this section of road on CA-39.
+Merric Hoang It's about 12 miles up Angeles Forest Highway near the intersection of Upper Big Tujunga Canyon Rd.
you may want to consider to change the name in the Title. CA-39 is a San Gabriel Canyon Road aka Azusa Hwy. It run from Huntington Beach up to Azusa and end at Crystal Lake Cafe. It hasn't been connect over to Hwy 2/Angeles Crest for decade. Angeles Forest Hwy is Angeles Forest Hwy, it is not the same as CA-39. Thank you.
Got it backwards... running a 91 tune on E40 fuel is safer than running an ethanol tune on 91. The 91 tune will just run rich with E40 in the tank. The E40 tune will knock like crazy on 91 fuel.
You really do need to run it out of 91 before switching to the ethanol map.
This car is Protuned by Randy at Mountune specifically for E40. When I run it dry on the Ethanol blend I reset back to my 91 Stage 3 tune.
Yep. That is the right "direction". I go to e when switching both ways. I recently ran across the flex fuel tunes for the frs with an ethanol sensor wired in. that would be great on the fords.
+Robert Young not really. running an a 91 tune with ethanol is not good either. Running on Ethanol requires about 30% more volume of fuel than running on 91. So a 91 tune with Ethanol in the tank will leave the car running lean.
+iBoos true, you are right. Ethanol does tolorate a lot leaner a/f ratio without detonation though. Either way you go you want the fuel light on before swapping unless you have a sensor and tune.
That's the best sounds focus... I would be very interested in one lol
I actually crashed a focus because of the terrible turning radius that I didn't expect it would have.
2020 daily drive my stage w.e st torque stear all day love it
Generally what's the speed limit on the roads you do the one takes on?
Ugh, all the comments about "why didn't he go flex fuel" are annoying as piss.
What part of warrantied daily driver don't you get? Sure, you CAN make it flex fuel, but you're going to have to rip out the ECU in the process voiding the warranty, most likely hindering drivability a bit, and definitely making it fail CARB check (along with any OBD-II scans). The ECU needs to support dual fuel/ignition tables to operate on flex fuel and then on top of that it has to support interpolating them based on an input voltage (flex fuel sensor). The stock ECU can't handle any of this unless it comes flex fuel ready from the factory (in which case it'll have the sensor, too).
Not just a matter of putting a sensor in...not even a little bit...
Anyway...
Pre-mixing E40 like that is a nightmare, I could never do that, app or not.
You said it all so I didn't have to. Seriously doing an E40 mix is really simple. I was on the same opinion as you from doing that each time at the pump but once you are on the initial blend it's really easy. On the first switch over its still not difficult just making sure the calculator has all the right parameters plugged in.
+Jason Connor (TerminatorConn) It has to be more than just the calculator, no? I've never seen an E40 pump, which means even when you have the perfect blend you have to add pre-mixed...which means you gotta get a certain exact number of gallons regular 91, then go to a different pump and get a specific number of gallons E85. Always need to do both or you'll throw off the ratio and it won't be E40 anymore.
Then God help you if you put too much fuel in towards the top, because you'll never be able to add enough E85 to balance it to E40.
Calculate how many miles you have left by the calculated MPG's on the dash to give you how much fuel you have in the tank. Plug that number into the calculator and that tells you how much E40 to pump first followed by how much 91. It's really not that hard. The pump I go to by my house has E85 and 91 right next to each other.
+Jason Connor (TerminatorConn) Yeah, I get the concept, but that's a pain in the ass, lol. You can make all the claims about it not being difficult, but in the end it's by far the most complicated way to fill up. I couldn't do that, I'd rather just go straight e85 at that point... What's the rationale to use e40 over? More expensive, have to mix each time, still dependent on e85 each fillup...? it's all of the downsides with none of the upsides..
The HPFP on the ST can't handle straight E85. E50 is the most it can handle.
Brother you have to get a RS to test, also what's it going to be Matt the Focus RS or the Shelby 350 R
matt go to australia and drive the mighty car mods cars :D would be awesome to see you in that mini :P
Where was this video taken, scenery looks great
What was the name of the app that Jason uses for the fuel calculator? thanks. Also love it
iTunes Store search for E85 Mix Calculator created by Kenneth Nissel. It should be the first one that comes up.
Found it thanks. Unfortunately it's a paid app but good to know
Relatively inexpensive and it works for me.
Doing a E85 blend isn't that hard guys. It takes maybe 10 seconds more than pumping just 91
I don't understand why everybody keeps saying it is or that you need a flex fuel sensor. Once on the blend it's easy to do you just need to find the stations and let the app do it's thing.
+Narek Shahverdian But why even bother though...why not just go full E85, or stay 93 (haha cali).
+Adam S (Dolby109) I wish we had 93 in Cali haha
+Adam S (Dolby109) not sure about the focus but I know the ecoboost mustang stock fuel system can't handle straight e85. I think it's the inadequate hpfp.
Mike Cromley You are correct the HPFP cannot handle it on the Focus ST either hence the need for E40.
Do you have any gun videos from the FIRM? And if so will it be on this channel or a different channel?
+Sam Combs no, there's nothing really to show, content wise. There were guns, we shot them, the end.
It's that the skyline behind the focus???
R32!!!
very low audio matt
Levels are perfect on my computer.
+TheSmokingTire The volume is a bit low but other than that it's fine
+TheSmokingTire audio is fine. that dude must just be 80 yrs old
+TheSmokingTire Audio is perfect with a decent pair of headphones. Can't win sometimes.
+vaxbuster Wahhhhh my video sounds bad when I play it on the worst sounding speakers wahhhhhh
My 08 Cobalt SS has an awful turn radius. The base model turns way tighter.
dude ur the man !!!!
Would you go with this or a Fiat 500 Abarth? Taking speed out of the equation. We know the st is faster.
The Abarth is an abominable shitbox
I don't love the Abarth. I get it but it's not for me. Very little of the practicality or comfort you get with a Focus
+robert335ijb4 You have to ask yourself, do you want to be left stranded some of the time or all the time?
Terminator Conn (cee oh double en).
We are recording the podcast now and your comment here was mentioned
amazed you didnt know about the ethanol mixing on the fly, watch mighty car mods man :P
what's the make of those sunglasses?
7:20
That's bad? Looked fine to me.
It's pretty atrocious even worse when in u-turn lanes.
Terrible
yeah so my evo got like 190 miles per tank, STOCK. lol
i'm also wondering why this guy does all those fuel calculations when there are flex fuel setups available? :o
Not running straight E85, you have to calculate the blend at the pump for E40. It's really not difficult at all.
I thought they had flex fuel in America? it will adjust tune depending on ethanol mixture
+rooboy69 Not all vehicles have it and not all vehicles can be easily modded to use them.
+rooboy69 Not really a matter of America or Europe or anywhere else... Sure, since E85 is readily accessible you can do a flex fuel system, but you'd have to do it all by yourself, and that was likely void parts of the warranty. All of the parts installed that mess with the engine management here are approved by Ford to keep warranty. Flex fuel wouldn't. First of all, the OEM PCM most likely doesn't support the dual maps based on flex fuel % input needed, so you'd need an aftermarket ECU, that right there is a huge thing. With a standalone ECU the entire warranty is void but you can then install a flex fuel sensor, yes.
Is it worth it on a daily driver? Probably not...
"You have to do math?" LOL
5:45 ... story of my life ... lol
I thought the Fiesta ST is not his?? or did he bought it from the camera man?
Company car. Thad drives it most of the time
Nice Matt!!
"Thank you, I know i'm a dick" lol
I see a certain yellow Boss mustannnngggg
I love that car, sounds amazing!
Neat little car ; wish it had the AWD option!
It's stupid how it's the same speedlimit for everyone. Between all the 1960's stock pick up trucks and the performance brake-fitted Ferraris. Which one is more safer to do a little speeding? It's the same in every country
it's not the car rhats dangerous at speeds. it's the driver
+skirne - With all the videos surfacing on youtube or whenever else. You should be more concerned with people in Ferrari's as no one that buys those vehicles knows how to drive it fast and is guaranteed to crash it.
so proud of his FOCUS
lol
I'm sure your dad bought you a much nicer car.
How are you enjoying your skyline Matt?
+tommyboy1two I've driven it twice so far. Still waiting on plates. It takes about a month to get one of those things registered using an expediter.
Hey Matt if you come to the UK I have a focus RS MK2 350 here for you !
Kinda sad that the drive wasn't done in a tighter curvier road :(
I wish you would make the old type of videos
+billy clark The old type of videos, by which I assume you mean highly produced pieces, lose money every time when you show them for free. They are simply too expensive to make. And The Smoking Tire, being a business and not a hobby, can no longer be in the business of losing money, no matter how much we enjoy making produced films.
+TheSmokingTire I understand thanks for replying
First guy I have ever seen wear those sunglasses like Farah wears.
I have to admit, they are truly excellent
Love the car, just wish I bought a brand new one and not CPO. Bought mine with 31k and the 3rd gear synchro went like 2 weeks later. Covered under warranty. Maybe just luck of the draw. I’ve heard of other people with transmission issues and engine issues as well. I don”t beat the car it’s mostly highway mileage. These cars seem hit or miss regarding reliability