Nikon/RED-DONE DEAL | GLOBAL Z9 II Speculation | 17K 65mm Sensor | 4TB SD Matt Irwin - CREATING NEWS
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00:00 Intro
00:30 NAB is on in Las Vegas
00:45 Nikon / RED acquisition complete, analysis
01:35 Who are the new RED CEO’s?
02:00 How much will Jim Jannard and Jarred Land be involved in the future?
03:12 Business as usual for RED under Nikon
03:24 Full statements from Nikon and RED New CEO, old CEO etc
03:40 Will Nikon buying RED have a negative impact on photography devices?
04:10 Photography is in Nikons DNA
05:05 What will hybrid creators get from Nikon/RED?
05:40 When will Nikon get global sensors?
06:10 The advantages for cinematographers
06:45 What might we see first new from this union
07:15 OWC NEW CFexpress Type A GEN 4 cards
07:45 Ninja Phone from Atomos
09:28 Blackmagic 65mm 17K new camera
10:10 Streaming is changing the shape of filmmaking
11:22 New Blackmagic camera has 16 stops of dynamic range !!!
11:35 New firmware for Panasonic S5II and S5IIx
12:25 Autofocus and IBIS updates
12:59 Camera to cloud
13:12 New Viltrox 56mm 1.7 for Z andXF coming soon
14:00 More options for APS-C users
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Once again you get the reporting correct while other YT camera personalities hyperventilate and have emotional reactions. Thank you.
Well, Matthew Tremblay, who is the chief designer at Red just resigned. It’s over for the old Red team. Nikon is gonna destroy it and build its own thing. And this is good. Down with the RED cult.
@@willvazquez3218 Why do you think of destruction? Nikon has several subsidiaries like Mark Roberts Motion Control or the German SLM Solutions which are doing fine for example.
@@jorgepinogarciadelasbayonas motion control is not what Nikon does, so they leave that company alone, but Nikon makes cameras and what started this was when Nikon put compressed RAW in the Z9. Nikon will take what they need from RED and use for their own designs for Nikon branded cameras. The fact that the chief designer of the hardware in most of the red cameras just quit his job means that Nikon doesn’t need his services anymore. Even though Red was a pioneer in digital motion pictures, they are barely used on professional sets anymore. I sold all my Red cameras over a year ago. And if you look around on any professional set, including TV commercials, you rarely see red cameras being used. Right now the cameras are dominate are Arri and Sony Venice. there’s just a couple of red cameras still around, but nobody likes using them because of all the quirks and unreliability. I’ve had many issues with my Red cameras in the past.
@@willvazquez3218 Wow, you just have a serious negative thinking problem. Just look at current Nikonrumors post. RED will be doing just fine. They are third part of the family.
Another great roundup, Matt! the RED acquisition can only be a positive, I think. And, yes, former directors are also excited at the prospects.
What is crazy about certain people on the internet is the thinking of that Nikon will destroy RED even after all these public statements of both companies. Nikon has several subsidiaries like Mark Roberts Motion Control or the German SLM Solutions which are doing fine for example.
Nice video, I thought that the video of you speaking was a little dull(low brightness, see 9:19) compare the shots of you and the shot of Keiji Oishi. Clarity is great, the Z8 does a great job.
I'm waiting for a replacement of my D500, and the Z8 is out of my budget. Hopefully a global shutter on an APS-C, 30-35mp is on the horizon.
Folk have an idefix about MP and hope for more. Since the early days of photography, "we" use a linear (one dimension) to measure resolution, because it directly relates to human perception of sharpness. That's also why we talked about "linear magnification". LinePairs per millimetre, Dots per Inch, Pixels per inch are all related to resolution and linear.
MP are an area unit. How many MP more do you need in order to get double the sharpness - ceteris paribus?
If your sensor is X*Y=MP and you want to double it, then its linear double is 2X*2Y=4MP.
To get double the D500, you need 80MP and "30-35" is peanuts.
Before I point you to the data out there that proves my point, first a bit about the OLPF - Optical Low-Pass Filter (AKA anti-aliasing (AA) filter).
There is a - sort of - problem in the Nikon ecosystem that however violates the "ceteris paribus" principle if we want to honestly compare: the OLPF.
That filter was devised of in order to make raw processing easier: wild-assed guessing of missing colours. Your, my, raw file consists of monochrome data elements (the 14 bits) and this needs to be converted into something RGB. Adobe Camera Raw (ACR) turns the 14 bits into 16 bits red, 16 bits green, and 16 bits blue - 48 total, in the ProPhoto colour space. ACR is the Develop tab in Lightroom Classic (LrC).
The OLPF would help with that, but it "costs": it reduces low light sensitivity, reduces colour space, reduces dynamic range (DR), reduces contrast envelope (DR in one shot/frame), and messes with vignetting. You "S" line lenses cannot perform at their best when registered through an OLPF.
Removing, however also has a "price": when you see colour noise and/or luminance noise ("Bayer noise" I call that) in blurry zones, darker zones, or low contrast zones of your image from a camera without OLPF, then it has raw processed your image inadequately.
Last year, Adobe finally has upped their ante under market pressure from Topaz first and DxO later, to offer better noise processing.
Given the "issues" of an OLPF, Nikon Eliminated the OLPF from the D800 in the D800E version for the first time.
Increasing resolution makes the issues of an OLPF worse and the added value of an OLPF less.
These cameras are identical, otherwise and hence they facilitate a ceteris paribus comparison to figure out the effect of the OLPF being present or not.
Go to the DxOMark website and find the sharpest F-mount lens. We stay full frame in these comparisons.
Now compare the D800 with that lens to the D800E with that lens. Shocking, right?
Next, to see the effect of more MP, compare a 24MP D to the D800 - all have an OLPF. Disappointing, right - proves my point.
Next, compare with that lens the D800E (36MP) and D850 (45MP). Not exciting.
Now you will have noticed that the D500 does a great job in sharpness. Well, it also has no OLPF, like the D800E, or D810/D850, or Z7(ii)/Z 8/Z9.
Anything full frame under 36MP in the Nikon ecosystem probably has an OLPF, anything above doesn't. If you know how to calculate photosite density, then you can convert the 36MP to APS-C MP.
So, while Nikon has no Z500 model, what can you do? Well, a Z 7 and Z 7ii are millimetres smaller than your D500 and can do about 20MP APS-C (DX) mode.
Put a DX lens on them and there you have it - with a full frame option.
The lens adapter works very well and if you want to use F-mount lenses, screwdriver AF will not work, but newer will and very fast too.
A Z 7(ii) is slower than a Z 8 with its AF and also cannot "recognise AI AF" well at LV 10 and below. Other than that, a Z &(ii) would be a worthy successor to the D500. And with people like myself upgrading from Z 7ii to Z 8, they should be available in the used market.
I shoot "S" class primes only and the f/1.8S lenses are top notch. I plan my shoots around two lenses and work with that, so it's light and convenient.
If you shoot landscapes, then a Z 7(ii) is great and a Z 8 will not give better raw files. For birds in flight you need to do some work. Larger or slower wildlife in general not a problem. If you are into sports and people-event photography, then you want the fastest recognition AI AF with 3D tracking (which is why I went to the Z 8). A Z f can do some of these things too, but it has an OLPF and I had decided long time ago, that I would never shoot a camera with OLPF again.
In DX mode it will not give you the 20MP but in size it is smaller that the D500, so depending on your use cases (types of subjects) and your lenses, you could consider a Z f.
I went to NAB yesterday and there are a lot of great products being shown. The Ninja phone is dope. The Nikon booth was buzzing and the staff were very friendly.
How exciting. I hope to make it one year.
@@MattIrwinPhotography you definitely have to come. This was my first year and it’s worth it. Plus you can explore Vegas. Several halls to cover and well organized.
Would love to, will make sure I let everybody know if I do :) Would be great to meetup !!!
Retired long time still photography enthusiast here. A Z5ii or a Z50ii (with IBIS) is what I would be most interest here. ... and no machine gun shooting here.
Some very clever folks based in Melbourne.. In addition to you Matt 🙂 Again great clear summary without the hype, just honest factual reporting.
Cheers Bubba
Thanks Matt for the thorough update again. You do all the work so we don’t have to! :-)
Lots of very exciting news. Great to see the industry advancing on so many fronts.
Great update. I too am hopeful for additional Z9 firmware improvements. Maybe we will see a Nikon logo change with a yellow to red gradient in it. The R&D capabilities with this acquisition is mind blowing. Sony and Canon have cause for concern in movie market share. Good for Nikon good for Nikon shooters. Kudos Matt!
I like the idea of the Atmos... But I'll probably not buy an iPhone any time soon. Sticking with my pixel and android.
Always brilliant to hear from you.
Great Video Matt 🤗
Another great video, Matt. Thanks for the updates. Curious about your colour grading of the video.... why so dark? Anyway, thanks for the info.
Sun was coming and going, I set for the mid ground (manual - 1 man show), and the sun never came back, I run my screens at 100% and it looks fine to me, what are your settings?
I would set the exposure in Premiere to around 1.8 and the Highlights to around 45. The video does look underexposed to me but I appreciate that the sun coming in and out is tricky.
So much news! I like the new Dji drone and glasses! ( have to go hang around with Joe 😉) Viltrox is working hard at getting new lenses out. And to me the price point makes sense. You can go and get yourself 5-6 new lenses for the price of a prime. Are they the best no, but neither were lenses back in the day. But photographers worked with them and their flaws to create some spectacular images. Images that have character have life in them. Sterile images though they look fantastic they to me have little life in them. I would get a Ninja over this new Ninja phone. 4 TB SD card is interesting, going to be expensive. I installed a 1tb micro in my Zf, to use for video or overflow if needed.
Well Matt have a fantastic week my friend. Say hello to Joe for me. 📷
Will do. You too and thank you. 😀
Z mount on RED cameras, Nikon cine lenses. I think that's in our future. I'd love to see a Z mount cine\stills hybrid that
shoots open gate with no rolling shutter, compressed raw. It would be the perfect B roll camera on low budget features and great for people like me who need to shoot assets for live action productions.
Matt, have you tried out the portable Smallrig 60B light, it's a strong light for daylight to bring up subject lighting, while still running on battery power. I use it quite effectively. Will give you much better subject separation as your video is quite dark.
No, and its interesting, I must have bright screens, as it look ok to me. Not distractingly dark. Thank you for sharing. :) I set the exposure a little low, as it was an overcast day, the sun was coming and going, but then it never came back, and I was too busy recording at that stage. (one man band) I will have a look at getting a little fill light to throw on the camera. Thank you !!! :)
@@MattIrwinPhotography yeah, same here with the one man band. Working on a new video piece on the Z9. I'll share it with you when it's ready. Thanks for keeping everyone updated on all the Nikon news and updates. I've been an avid Nikon shooter since 2017, and after the Z9 I even sold all my Sony gear. :)
I seem to reach for my z8 over my 850 I should take my 850. Out for a walk about
Did someone shoot in Log....
Imagine if Nikon buys Blackmagic. WOW,just saying…
Any news on the nikon Z6iii yet?
The Z9II is the most exciting news.
Z9 II, only speculation at this time, but perhaps given another 2 years it might happen :)
I am surprised that Nikon has not adopted the CF Express type A instead of sd card slot. This would greatly reduce or eliminate the bottleneck when writing to such a slot.
This might just be my ignorance. How can aZ9 incorporate a global shutter if it has no shutter?
Has to do with the sensor readout. Instead of reading line by line it takes a global read across the sensor simultaneously.
Two types of shutters mechanical and electronic. The Nikon Z9 exclusively uses the electronic shutter, so no physical curtain.
G'day mate !
G’day.
Hoping for Nikon to update the firmware for (at least) the Z8/Z9 for 240P or faster slow-motion video, even if it's only at full HD. Nikon is woefully behind their competitors in this area, which is sad owning Red.
Whaaaat, everyone is on 4k 120 fps. I would like more even in a windowed format in burst mode.
@@danielvilliers612 Sony a7S III was released almost four years ago, it can do HD/240p, the Fujifilm X-S20 at $1299 can do HD/240p. The Panasonic G9 II can do HD up to 300p. These three examples are from massively inferior cameras than a Nikon Z8/Z9 and yet they are limited to 120p at all resolutions.
I have to imagine a bunch of awkward conversations happening at NAB this year. Nikon leadership doesn’t know cine or broadcast, and cine/broadcast doesn’t particularly know Nikon. Add to that a layer of very recent and significant leadership change, topped off with a two-headed CEO situation. Who really knows what will happen? Publicly the two companies have said the right things of course, and yes Nikon may have the pockets to expand Red’s R&D. That I wouldn’t know. But if I were running a major production house that’s built its kit around Red, I’ve already been on the phone talking with competitors. I’m already testing Red alternatives, because if the Nikon acquisition causes chaos, I don’t have the time or energy to let that get in the way of my next deliverable. In the short term I expect sales will dip, especially at the high end. As for merging engineering between the two camera companies, I don’t have the experience to opine on that with any authority, though my guess is that it will take quite a while for the two divisions to reconcile engineering practices so they can readily move parts and ideas back and forth across the Pacific. So I’m not expecting to see anything obviously cross marketed for two years or more as they begin to move beyond the development cycles already underway-that is apart from maybe a Z-mount Komodo.
Nah, if you're invested with RED, if you're experienced and productive/profitable using RED, there's no good reason to start shopping around. There has been zero statements from either company that change is afoot, quite the opposite in fact. I understand that everyone has an opinion and I respect yours, and I completely disagree that people should start shopping around.
@@Chrsly I’ve seen enough mergers in a variety of industries over the years to know that what gets said as part of the initial press releases tells me nothing about what will really happen behind closed doors in the months ahead. Now I don’t expect anyone who needs service on a Red will notice any differences (better or worse) for quite a while, and small operators who are invested in Red have nothing in particular to worry about. But in larger production settings, plan B isn’t optional, and maybe you find out Nikon nails the transition and plan B goes back on the shelf down the road, but in the face of uncertainty, you make sure your backup plans are up to date. Beyond that, it will be interesting to watch. I just hope it doesn’t become a money pit for Nikon, slowing down the development of the flagship stills and hybrid designs.
BT why the drama. It just can’t go that wrong. It’s not like all RED cameras will stop working overnight on the same day. I just don’t follow your ‘logic’. ‘It might not work out so prepare to sell everything’ ? Z9 runs flawlessly everyday, gets better every six months.
@@MattIrwinPhotography No Matt. Small operators like you and me and thousands of others can wait it out. That’s not what I’m talking about. But if sometime soon I were responsible for signing off on let’s say a $35million volumetric install built around Red or a competitive alternate, the alternate may look like a more reliable option right now. Long term, who knows. But Red’s a tiny company, and a proud company, and when I saw the Nikon booth signage at NAB this morning-with Red at the bottom of the pile in white lettering underneath of all things MRMC-I’m a lot less optimistic. It’s the people, not the engineering, that will drive success or failure. And unless Red is allowed to look and act as a partner to Nikon, rather than a peon, their best people will be gone in no time.
Most DP's shooting RED use it in combination with a camera robot (for tabletop commercial work). It's interesting that along with the RED acquisition, Nikon just launched the Cinebot mini. If it goes well, the merger
will help Nikon break into the cine market.
I agree that the merger might cause some issues, but on the plus side we'll also probably get some nice Nikon Cine lenses in the future and have the compressed RAW format issues settled.
Shows up the Z mount was built for video and maybe medium format in the future.
If it were to have a medium format, they will have to make special lenses that basically have a built in speed booster since the flange is so short.
Fuji gfx and Hasselblad have short flange I don't think that matters as long as it's designed properly
@Marshallchandra it will take a lot of work. The z mount is 55mm diameter, and a flange of 16mm and the GFX is 65mm diameter, and a 26.5mm flange. That is 10.5mm shallower and 10mm smaller diameter. That is a ton of magic that ne3ds to happen to get an image onto a small medium format sensor.
@@meatbyproducts I like magic ...
@@MattIrwinPhotography as do I. I think they can do it, but it is not as simple as just making med format glass loke Fuji or DJI (Hasselblad). There will be tons of work due to that tiny flange.
That 40mm doesn't seem particularly good.
Why?
@@MattIrwinPhotography I thought everything looked a tiny bit off in the colours. Your face really red, the scene kinda grey and a bit dim, but not underexposed. I kinda can't put my finger on it... I am so used to your stuff being shot with really top glass. Maybe I'm spoiled.
Your image is dim. By design?
Great to hear that Nikon is taking video more seriously these days.